While we have tested the RX 6800M with "normal" (not slow timings) memory, just a reminder that retail units of the Asus ROG Strix will be somewhat slower due to Asus' memory choice and what they describe as a supply constraint on better memory

@grantpaterson1016

3 жыл бұрын

Is it just me or do all the Laptop suppliers, other than bespoke, seem to ALWAYS include something to hamper AMD Laptops? Dell G anyone...etc etc etc

@darius6845

3 жыл бұрын

could you provide the timings (and sub-timings) of both kits? or link them?

@jelipebands1700

3 жыл бұрын

Great review Tim love the power range next to the gpus. Are there 32gig kits with even better sub timing? Or is the kit you tested with the best this laptop can support.

@JanusDarke

3 жыл бұрын

Did you include the price of the memory you added in the laptop when you priced the laptop in the video?

@TheMacco26

3 жыл бұрын

@@darius6845 Jarrod's Tech has everything you're asking for. Just check his Lenovo Legion 5 Pro memory gate video, it shipped with the very same crappy RAM sticks of this Asus.

The great thing is that 6800M laptop goes for LESS than a 3070 laptop. That is insane for near 3080 laptop performance.

@CephDigital

3 жыл бұрын

If i can get a laptop with a QHD display and rgb vomit everywhere, that's going to be my next laptop.

@tomashcraft

3 жыл бұрын

@@CephDigital beware of that it is just 4-zone rgb vomit keyboard. Not per key.

@CephDigital

3 жыл бұрын

@@tomashcraft yes Im aware but Lenovo are making their own version as well so hopefully that is based off their Legion 7 and not the 5

@tomashcraft

3 жыл бұрын

@@CephDigital good point! As early adopter of Asus' AMD laptop Im not gonna do the same mistake and will prefer any other brand. And do recommend it to anyone else. Perfect fantasy in my mind is something like Dell XPS or Razer Blade Pro but full AMD. Some day maybe.

@pietpompies7381

3 жыл бұрын

I'll only believe this once they actually are available to buy...

6800M looking competitive, at least compared to the 5600M last year which was generally below RTX 2060

@aceofchads

3 жыл бұрын

Please show us with ram Changed!

@anharun

3 жыл бұрын

and then Nvidia started bribing OEM to avoid using AMD mobile GPU

@hoangd4132

3 жыл бұрын

@@aceofchads any 3rd party stick on retail will do, it's just Asus used terribly unseen oem ram

@dra6o0n

3 жыл бұрын

Buying laptops is a hit or miss sometimes, because you often can't likely see what RAM is used until you closely examine them somewhere if there is any information online... Not to mention that power supply determines how much your hardware can perform and the constraint between parts if heat becomes a issue as a result of power. Power gives higher performance but heat drops it... So if the laptop has a lot of fancy power hog features and bloatware or drivers... It'll suck.

@RaiPalk78

3 жыл бұрын

🤡🤡🤡 it was faster than 2060 comparable to 2070MQ. i happen to own the 5600M. All you had to do was update drivers and tune it slightly.

I was humming along being like ok, this is fine, until the price - and then my jaw dropped. Like why would you even buy a 3080 laptop? 10% for $500 at 1440? How is that a thing?

@SaturnusDK

3 жыл бұрын

I present to you 3080ti

@hoangd4132

3 жыл бұрын

@@SaturnusDK you won't have a chance buying 3080ti at that price, that thing cost at least $2500

@SaturnusDK

3 жыл бұрын

@@hoangd4132 Yeah but even the fairy tale MSRP is +$500 for the same roughly +10% performance.

@Dadodaw

3 жыл бұрын

If this laptop costs $1550-$1700, that's insane value in the laptop space. Not only is that faster than a 3070 laptop in any range, but the laptop models with high TGP 3080, like the one they tested, can cost $2500+ You're giving up some nvidia features for sure, but if I was in the market for a gaming laptop right now it'd be really hard for me not to go with AMD at that price.

@mranonymous7183

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dadodaw Bonus feature, if you ever switch your OS to Linux, AMD has *much* better support.

AMD become the first GPU to pack 8gb Vram on their mid range gpu RX 6600M, what a time to be alive!!

@EVPointMaster

3 жыл бұрын

"mid range"

@naseemyasir

3 жыл бұрын

@@EVPointMaster yes the 6600m is supposed to be in laptops 1000$ or less than that so I'll call it budget-ish mid range

@LazyEngineerYT

3 жыл бұрын

@@seamon9732 MOBILE GPUs.

@srisudersan2401

3 жыл бұрын

@@naseemyasir i really wish it comes under 1000$

@naseemyasir

3 жыл бұрын

@@srisudersan2401 yea me too, assuming that they go with the same pricingvas last year

At the end of the day, competition is our best friend. Keep it up AMD!

We need to see more Radeon laptops with MUX switches or some "Advanced Enduro" now! Navi 22 in a laptop seems decently competitive even if it's a smidgen slower than GA104 at similar TDPs. Smartshift finally seems useful. Can't wait to see the 6700m vs. 3060 mobile battle 💖

@robertstan298

3 жыл бұрын

More like 6600M vs mobile 3060. 6700M should be a lot closer to 6800M than anything else.

@feyiakinola3303

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertstan298 Understandable but if the 6800m is cheaper than the 3070 from the SAME company using the SAME CPU(5900HX), then a 6700m might arguably be cheaper than a 3060 with performance that at least would be better than the slightly lower watt 3070s. A 6700m vs 3060 comparison would then make sense from a price standpoint. Being the same price with the 3060 alone would be good if its more powerful, but being cheaper at the same time?? That's a huge win for performance enthusiasts in the budget market.

How far AMD has come in the last 5 years is just Amazing👍.

@GewelReal

2 жыл бұрын

That's what having an actual engineer as CEO does

Always excited to see Hammer on box not shadow banned for alternative journalism narrative lmao

@akashkakati2860

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@0Harriz0

3 жыл бұрын

Well of course. Because it's hammer time!

@KevinCampusano

3 жыл бұрын

OMG so THAT'S where the hammer over a box hoodie comes from!!! I'm dying XDXDXD

@ForAnAngel

3 жыл бұрын

My favorite part was when AMD was ahead by 2% he said AMD gets the win but when AMD was down by 2% he said that it was a tie.

@linearliquidize

3 жыл бұрын

@@KevinCampusano and the one he is wearing in this video comes from the occasional "Harbor Boxed" subtitle

As gamer as the "Cutting Edge Cool" design internally, I do like touches like that. 99% of users will never see it, but the few that do open up their laptops will see something neat

AMD is changing the laptop market with this kind of insane performance to price value. NOICE.

Exciting to see serious AMD GPUs back for laptops!

Ray tracing aside, RDNA2 is impressive and has impressed me enough to kick Nvidia and buy my first Radeon gpu since it was 'Ati Radeon'

@Zorro33313

3 жыл бұрын

wait, so you were buying nvidia all these years of Jensen's horrible anti-consumer behavior? Jeez, hope you were simply not aware.

@NeXMaX

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zorro33313 I have, and I was fully aware. Thing is, it was either handicap myself with an inferior product (I do a lot of CUDA-accelerated productivity work) or just accept that I have little choice and go with what works best for my needs. I don't like NVIDIA's business practices, but they're the only ones so far to make a product that fits my needs... In a perfect world, AMD, NVIDIA and Intel would have a range of GPUs that meet all basic productivity and gaming needs at prices that the masses could actually afford. Unfortunately, this is not that world.

@slay3rgamingyt

3 жыл бұрын

RDNA1, GCN and even vega were competitive with nvidia cards while costing lower in many occasions in midrange market. Take Vega 56 vs 1070 or RX 580/480 vs 1060 or rx 550 vs 1050 or Rx 5600xt vs 1660ti/2060 and 5500xt vs 1650/1650 super for example.

@aforty1

3 жыл бұрын

Same, and I do think the RT equation will change tremendously once developers start optimizing for AMD (given that they power consoles and PC’s now). I also think FSR will help make RT much more usable.

@artiew8718

3 жыл бұрын

@@slay3rgamingyt it depends on what your workload was/is

hopefully it's priced at the 3070 level. edit: Holy shit it actually is cheaper than a 3070 laptop even. What a beast.

@K.R.X

3 жыл бұрын

AMD know the market. Unlike Intel.

@mariusclaudiu3146

3 жыл бұрын

Not if you need to change the memory. Thats another 200 euro right there :)))

@SUPABROS

3 жыл бұрын

@@mariusclaudiu3146 and with that increase still cheaper than 3080 with higher performance, if a laptop maker is sensible enough o use high speed memory than 6800m dominates

@Vernas_R

3 жыл бұрын

@@mariusclaudiu3146 In the US it's still cheaper with Best Buy, though I will admit the storage could be better. As a side note, any parts you buy can be used later.

Personally I'm impressed with the RX 6800m can't wait to see Eluktronics make an all AMD laptop.

@chriswright8074

3 жыл бұрын

Would faster ram help

@zen608

3 жыл бұрын

@ADITYADIVINE they don't have any options because India applies a big fat import tax on all electronics and you have to go through a lengthy process to get your product registered for sale in India. Not to mention how there's very few buyers for gaming laptops in India.

@rajeshbedi

3 жыл бұрын

@@chriswright8074 yes will get around 10% more fps

@rohanleander

3 жыл бұрын

@@chriswright8074 well, if they are using the same ram as what was found in the legion 5 pro then maybe.

@Supcharged

3 жыл бұрын

XMG stated no 6000m laptop this year from them

I bought this laptop on sale at 1099 on November 2022 from 1699 of the original price for the QHD version. With the money I saved I upgraded the SSD with 2 fast 1TB Gen 3 from Sabrent that runs cool and is much faster for gaming (I have cloned the internal to the first Sabrent and then replace it with another Sabrent for a 2TB total SSD), I replaced the slow stock ram 1Rx16 CL22 with super-fast 2x16GB DDR4 1Rx8 CL20 Kingston FURY (total 32GB) & I also replaced the unreliable WI-FI/Bluetooth card with a fast and reliable INTEL AX210 NGW. All this costed about 320$ that can be 220$ if you go for the more than enough 16GB ram. All the components I have removed I sold them for used and I made some extra cash (about 100$) for the rest of the upgrades. All the above are super easy to do if you have basic computer skills, 15’ time and a screwdriver. With the remaining money bought also on sale: one ROG Falchion NX 65 keyboard, one mouse ROG Chakram, the AUKEY PC-LM1E 1080p camera and the Creative Pebble V3 Speakers (total cost another 200$). All the above upgrades and accessories costed less than the discount I got from best buy and I added a few more $ to the ones I made by selling the stock parts for one QHD LG Ultragear 27GP850-B monitor at 165Hz that is currently on sale at 300$ for a full gaming set up and for bypassing completely the integrated GPU since there is no MUX switch in this laptop. On benchmarks and on new AAA games this configuration is faster about 25%-30% of the original configuration and faster than a i7 11800H + RTX 3080M laptop that cost about double the original 1699 price of this laptop with smaller SSD and less RAM! All upgrades plus the laptop and peripherals cost me a total of 1820$. All this for a full gaming set up (external screen, keyboard, mouse, speakers and camera) plus 2TB SSD, 32GB ram and fast WIFi6. Every game run on ultra-settings smoothly as butter. I highly recommend it even on original price at best buy if you are considering buying the Nvidia variation and you will have the fastest laptop out there and a lot of hard earned $ saved.

faster or equal is not important. is FAST ENOUGH for everything and is way cheeper!

@dalefrancis9414

3 жыл бұрын

lol facts. That $500 less alone would make me buy it.

@johnnyxp64

3 жыл бұрын

@@dalefrancis9414 exactly. and if it looses in some game is not 500$ gap! is like 5-15fps! so yeah...no brainier. All AMD laptops rock!

@sahilmeena8018

3 жыл бұрын

@ADITYADIVINE Add rtx and dlss too. I wonder why they didn't include ray tracing benchmarks in this review.

@georgwarhead2801

3 жыл бұрын

@@sahilmeena8018 simply because everyone knows, that this 6 heavy raytraced games run faster on nvidia gpu´s and that the 3 lighter raytraced games run equal on both brands... dlss runs only on nvidia gpus, so why even test it. you can run this tests, as soon as games implemented fsr. now it only depends on, how developer use raytracing ( ITS CALLED RAYTRACING, NOT RTX...) if they use heavy implementations, nvidia will stay faster, if they just use light implementations like godfall, dirt5 or RE, then nvidia will have no advantage

@johnnyxp64

3 жыл бұрын

@ADITYADIVINE there are no driver issues. if anything... AMD keeps improving Performance to their older and current gen cards over the years while nVidia was proven many times to sabotage their own product to promote the new gpus

I knew this channel thanks to Jarrod's shout-out about your upcoming FSR and DLSS comparison video. Such great channels!

@MrNova39X

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephm3615 in a world full of Nvidia shill channels, should there not be an opposition to the evil overlords? 🤣

We should definitely check battery life on these all AMD laptops . Wonder how much the RDNA2 efficiency helps there Edit : wow the price difference makes it a no brainer !

@katech6020

3 жыл бұрын

they are very close, and SmartShift may improve battery life

@SUPABROS

3 жыл бұрын

@@katech6020 Radeon chill too, or underclocking, if you want to you could underclock it slightly

@pratyushkishore9030

2 жыл бұрын

Jarrod tech said it lasts for more than 9 hours of KZread playaback with the screen limited to 60hz

AMD had the biggest comeback in anime history.

This looks great and for a channel that doesn’t normally do laptop reviews I think you did an amazing job. I’d be curious to see reviews in the coming months when FSR is available and implemented in more games, and weather it can better compete with Nvidia’s RT/DLSS combination.

The difference in frame rate between in unit screen and external monitor shows the desparate need for a mux switch.

Thank you AMD for being sensible and providing us with the 'M' so I don't get confused searching for desktop vs laptop cards.

I've been debating on building a second PC for VR set ups, but man I may as well pick up something like this down the line so I can have a mobile VR set up as well.

@gorgeousfreeman1576

3 жыл бұрын

Let me ask, is the vr setup initially for Half-life alyx?

@mackan072

3 жыл бұрын

I'd never get a laptop for anything performance or gaming related, unless I actually needed to move the PC. The current GPU shortage might somewhat alter that statement, if that's all one is able to purchase - but honestly I'd rather wait in a scenario as such, again - unless I absolutely needed the PC.

@danny8911

3 жыл бұрын

Building new pc rn, no. Laptop yes. Cool to see you here chef.

@boukm3n

3 жыл бұрын

@@mackan072 with FSR you won’t need another computer dude it’ll work with VR eventually they said

@ShaoZapomnit

3 жыл бұрын

@@mackan072 I'd disagree, ever since Laptops became power constrained instead of having cut down chips, they're a lot better.

Finally a test of this machine with an external monitor at 1440p. Thank you guys!

@samuel5916

3 жыл бұрын

Jarrod’s Tech did some external monitor testing too if you wanna see more benchmarks. I think he said he’ll have an even larger set of test data in an upcoming video as well.

@artiew8718

3 жыл бұрын

What’s the point of a laptop then. Sff is the way to go.

@samuel5916

3 жыл бұрын

@@artiew8718 This laptop has a 1440p 144hz screen option but that one wasn’t sampled to reviewers (at-least not yet) since these dGPU’s are massive overkill for 1080p, they wanted to give people an idea of how that version of the laptop will perform since most people will probably buy the better screen model when it becomes available. Alternatively, maybe some people are perfectly fine playing at 1080p when they’re on the go (to save a few bucks on the higher specced version) but at home they already have a 1440p gaming monitor/TV they can plug it into.

@RichWhiteUM

3 жыл бұрын

@artiew87 @@samuel5916 I used to hook my old Alienware with a i7-6700HQ and GTX 1070 to a monitor and keyboard due to space constraints. I didn't have room for a desktop tower, where I had the laptop set up, and it was cheaper than going with an ITX format. That's another reason some people may want to hook a laptop up to a monitor. That's not even getting into the availability of desktop video cards right now.

@thomgizziz

Жыл бұрын

I can't take any of these reviews seriously. I have this laptop and a couple others with GPUs he is "reviewing" and all his numbers are well off of what I actually get on them.

It is good to see AMD hitting above their weight class thats for sure. I wish I had the money to throw at something like this

I really appreciate the reminder with the desktop 3080 that no one with a 3080 mobile is getting nearly the same performance. Nvidia needs to take a lesson from AMD and name them separately if they won't name them appropriate to their performance.

Can't wait for bigger machine to have an all AMD support. Would like both a 17 inch and 16 inch machine with this configuration.

People keep repeating "raytracing" over and over again, but the technology is still to slow to use it across the board. Even 4k resolution is still quite demanding, without rt.

@Ghostsonplanets

3 жыл бұрын

People keep repeating Ray-Tracing because that's the minimum specification across the board between PC and consoles. Developers will out RT hardware to use. You're right that we're still far off from ideal performance, but that will take decades(Yes, decades, not years). We can't wait until then to use Ray-Tracing. The earlier we use, the more techniques we will develop to turn around the limitations of actual RT hardware.

@CHN-yh3uv

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ghostsonplanets Decades? It won't take 5 years. You're forgetting image upscaling tech. Even if in 5 years we only get twice the performance we currently get + FSR and/or DLSS widely available that'll be enough for 4k RT on mid range cards, even if it's not as good as native 4k it's gonna be enough for most people.

@jesusbarrera6916

3 жыл бұрын

true, literally the only thing keeping RT alive is Minecraft.... and that is only because DLSS exists

@Exile1a

3 жыл бұрын

@@CHN-yh3uv It's more likely that RT will be matched by a Software based effect (See the new UE5 demo). "Look here are nice effects that doesn't cause your hardware to call you an asshole." Leaving FSR and DLSS an option for people that just want to push a higher resolution or FPS out of their card by sacrificing some graphical fidelity.

@saricubra2867

3 жыл бұрын

@@Exile1a Crysis remastered has path traced global illumination in the engine and you don't need RT cores.

Thank you mustache Tim . Great work Also great news for the laptop market👏

@aldaweel6270

3 жыл бұрын

Hala sankara

@bisher1013

3 жыл бұрын

نورت كنت بروح بعد هلمقطع عمقطك لكرت الشعب هههههه😂

I was waiting for a mention of price and was genuinely shocked at the difference. I was not expecting that laptop to be hundreds less than its direct competitor. That's cool :)

👀 That's quite impressive!

@sofiaclemente7925

3 жыл бұрын

I love your channel so much! 🧡

As said on other videos about the same laptop, the video signal to the default screen is routed through the iGPU and hinders performance greatly

@HOkayson

3 жыл бұрын

The 1080p numbers given were using the default screen though so what you see is what you get

Can't wait to get my hands on one when it's in stock 3 years from now

@danieldarie6659

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

Type-C 100W charging option. Finally modern. This means no bulky proprietary charging cables that get hot and even electrocute you. Also means I can use mag-safe cables compatible with my work laptop and my phone.

@anslicht3516

3 жыл бұрын

A charging cable can't electrocute you. Just sayin'...

Amd is on a rampage. They're sick of being the bottom dog and are absolutely trying to become top dog and have no reason to wait for intel to catch up. I love this new AMD. We really needed this level of competition on the high end

This is madness! Is Tim using a laptop that he didn't dremel into to get good thermals?!

I have a feelin that Smartshift is behind a lot of those good 1% low scores 6800M had.

@bananya6020

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting theory

@jokosusanto5861

3 жыл бұрын

I think it also because how AMD GPU have less CPU overhead. I suppose on heavy GPU scenes/frames, the CPU is less likely being busy serving GPU demands, so the overall program still work somewhat fluid instead of being chugged a frame or two. This coincides with how at 1080 resolution, AMD is very impressive. At that resolution, being a lighter render than 1440p, it naturally cranks more FPS, thus more CPU processing needed. Less CPU overhead means more CPU power available for running the game itself.

Happy to see AMD really competing with Nvidia in the mobile market

Finally more options for the users.

FSR will make the 6800M even more powerful ! Ray tracing is not a big deal or a deal breaker !

@SmokeSolo1975

3 жыл бұрын

Dlss is already available on the nvidia gpus!!!!

Oh man its been awhile since i see all flagship AMD laptop. 7970m was the beast back then

This combo is my next laptop for sure. Waiting on a 17inch variant, with a faster screen would be nice.

For people planning to buy this, check the serial number, if it starts with M7, it's the newer version that comes with updated better ram [ Just purchased]

I still haven an issue with the naming, it's a navi 22 chip but has the name of a navi 21 chip with a m suffix. It's less misleading than what nvidia does, but still not great.

That's great for the price however Asus shouldn't have made a decision to include these slow RAMs.

Last time I had a Radeon GPU laptop was the 4650m in a 14 inch ASUS laptop. Sort of a powerhouse. Some 10 years ago.

Got mine last weekend and so far so good. I have been waiting for AMD to bring back some real competition to the market. Great review!

funny how the 3080 laptop version gets 16gb vram and the 3080ti desktop gets 12gb .....................LOGIC

@artiew8718

3 жыл бұрын

Look at 3060

@haukionkannel

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Nvidia 3080 is 3060 and that is why it has either 8gb or 16gb…

@tim3172

3 жыл бұрын

@@artiew8718 The 3060 has more, slower RAM than the 3060Ti which is likely a cheaper overall cost. The 3080 has more, slower RAM than the 3080Ti in the 16GB variant which is likely a cheaper overall cost. The 3080 is also available in an 8GB variant which would be less, slower RAM which would obviously be a cheaper overall cost.

@tim3172

3 жыл бұрын

@@haukionkannel "3080 is 3060" meaning you think the mobile 3080 is a desktop 3060? Sure, apart from the fact that the 3080 has almost twice the CUDA cores (3584 in the 3060 desktop and 6144 in the 3080 laptop), a different memory width (192 vs 256-bit), and memory sizes (which are a function of bus width)... absolutely the same GPU.

Oh, guess I'm early. Also the shout out to Jarrod's Tech is neat. Boys support Boys.

@aaz1992

3 жыл бұрын

Da bois!

@andrewosei328

3 жыл бұрын

Jarrod's Tech is an Nvidia fanboy, don't expect unbiased reviews from him.

@Alirezarz62

3 жыл бұрын

He's weird tho

@nathansstuff1547

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewosei328 Probably doesn't help that there hasn't been much AMD stuff that competes till now.

@JarrodsTech

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewosei328 5600M in a handful of laptops with a poorer driver experience that did worse than 2060 was hardly competitive, not sure what you expected when there were like three Radeon laptops last year lol

Since I work with my computers and the few games I play have neither Ray Tracing or DLSS, this is a great product. I don't need the best. It just needs to work, and getting that power back to the CPU when it is needed is fantastic.

You missed to mention on how efficient 6800m behaves on battery only, compared to RTX mobile. Granted, either fence could probably only manage about an hour on battery.

Great review. But why do reviewers always mention features RTX Voice which has general altetnstives. But never mention Radeon Chill. Which for a laptop is a huge selling point. RadeonChill is great for MMOs and can save tons of power.

Why didn't they put a 1440p screen instead of a 1080p? Seem like overkill with the 6800m.

Just picked up one of these after spilling steel reserve on my previous laptop (classy I know). I am very happy with it so far.

I have the same laptop running a modified version of Arch Linux called mizOS. I love it!

The title needs to be changed. "The 6800M. Faster than the 3080 mobile?" Is what it SHOULD say. No one would ever assume a laptop video card is faster than a desktop variant in it's tier.

Damn! It already come to a point when a laptop is much more cheaper than a video card. In my country RX6700XT GPU cost around 1500USD and sometimes more.

@saintallnights7239

3 жыл бұрын

That's what I've been saying to people. I've been around this tech longer than these reviewers and this has never happened and it's batshit insane.

For those curious this is now available on Best Buy for $1,650 which is a killer deal. I was close to going with it but opted for the Alienware M15 R4 with a 3080 and 32 of ram. It's on sale for only a few hundred more and has a webcam and better build quality. I'm a big fan of team red though. My rig has the R7 3700X and RX 5700XT.

I just wonder when these laptops will be avaliable because I can't find any.

Last time I was this early you could buy GPUs.

I've heard RX 6800M is supposed to be close to a RX 6700 XT. Pretty impressive that they were able to pack a RX 6700 XT like gpu into a laptop.

@hasnihossainsami8375

3 жыл бұрын

Technically it is a 6700XT, just slightly down clocked and prolly binned for lower power consumption. There's literally no physical difference between the 6700XT and the 6800M, including the memory.

@Supcharged

3 жыл бұрын

@@siyzerix That's not how it works, desktop 6800 is navi 21 and that will not exist in laptops.

@siyzerix

3 жыл бұрын

@@hasnihossainsami8375 Thats what makes the name still confusing. Should've been called the rx6700m. And release a rx6800m that was basically a desktop rx6800 non xt. Holy fuck it'd have smoked nvidia. Probably beaten the rtx 3080 by 15-20%. And the rtx 3070 by 30-40%.

@SaturnusDK

3 жыл бұрын

@@Supcharged Maybe it will, we'll see. The silicon exists to make an RTX 3080 killer, it's just a matter of if it's worth it for AMD to allocate the silicon for it. They need OEMs to sign up for taking an agreed amount of units first.

@hasnihossainsami8375

3 жыл бұрын

@@siyzerix lmao Nvidia is doing the same thing - their 3080 mobile is using the full GA104 chip which is the same chip that'll be used in the desktop 3070Ti. Desktop 3080 uses the GA102 chip, which isn't available for laptops. Both AMD and Nvidia's top dies are way too big to put into laptops.

3:15 - That warranty sticker on the freaking screw!

What we need more are low power GPUs for Ultrabooks, similar to Nvidia’s Max Q. As well as Mobile SKUs that can be used by ARM makers on their SoC.

The guts inside that laptop. Is quite staggering.

@Unknown-jl7mg

3 жыл бұрын

CHLAMYDIA GREEDFORCE

That price is real nice. So crazy that with RDNA2 AMD was able to get right up on next to Nvidia up and down and stack on desktop and mobile. I just wonder what's going to happen next, and with Intel getting into dGPU race, things about to get WILD.

@dondraper4438

3 жыл бұрын

We keep hearing that Intel's DG2 is going to be around RTX 3070 Ti performance. Since Intel has 0 dgpu market share, it means they NEED market share. So i am personally expecting some 1st gen Ryzen tier pricing with Intel's DG2 gpu's.

@Yoshimatsu414

3 жыл бұрын

@@siyzerix Efficiency may have taking a dive but that's taking power into account. When you just look at performance to relative previous gen GPU, Nvidia has still been making jumps in performance.

@siyzerix

3 жыл бұрын

@@Yoshimatsu414 The gtx 1050 on laptops was 50-60% faster than the gtx 950m. The gtx 1060 was a massive 2-3x faster than a gtx 960m. The gtx 1070 was nearly 2-3x faster than a gtx 970m. The gtx 1080 was almost 2x faster than a gtx 980m. For turing the gtx 1650 was 40-50% faster than a 1050. The gtx 1660ti was 30-40% faster than a 1060. The rtx 2070 was about 30%ish faster than a 1070. The rtx 2080 was maybe 20% better than a gtx 1080. You can see the performance uplift was getting lower and lower. And with ampere it reduced to mostly 20-30% uplifts. No shit performance relative to previous generation gpu's is better. Otherwise whats the point. You'd be pulling a intel at that point. Are we praising that we are getting any sort of performance uplifts? Because if so, now i can see how nvidia is raking in so much cash. People will defend anything from them. They could produce shit and people would still defend it.

@dondraper4438

3 жыл бұрын

@@siyzerix To be honest, I think part of the problem is that OEM's discontinue last gen products. If last gen products were still as readily available as new gen products (every single launch), then reviewers would constantly have to compare relative to last gen products. Can you imagine if an RTX 3060 review told you to buy an RTX 2060 instead? That's one way to fix the problem.

@thomgizziz

Жыл бұрын

Raytracing is terrible on AMD though... 3060s easily beat the 6800

Hopefully they will ad few more %with drivers/ bios updates. I like it. Looks like it has potential. Also if it gonna be cheaper then 3080 /300$ - not bad

2:40 That heatsink design looks cool though😍❤

when i saw that AMD wasnt beating the 3080 consistently in performance my thought was that they need to hit Nvidia where it hurts and thats pricing and my gawd did they ever. 500-1K cheaper is nuts considering the AMD advantage has to have a 120hz IPS screen on the laptop.

Right now the 2 key questions are: 1. When will it be available in Australia? and 2. How much will it cost?

@NamelessPassenger

3 жыл бұрын

$1650 usd = expect around $2249-2499 aud

@simster2759

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like close to the 3070 striz so 2799 but knowing Australian prices will somehow break 3000 just because we get charged sky high on everything

@aftp4i94

3 жыл бұрын

@@simster2759 I was literally about to pull the trigger on a 3070 lappy from Infinity. I hope the thing goes on sale soon rather than the usual couple months delay.

Please mention the timings of stock ram and the replacement as well.

I'd say I expect better performance on lenovo or msi variants with amd dgpu switch

I'm really happy to see what they're doing with price on the 6800m. Sure, it might not beat the 3080, but if its cheaper than a 3070 laptop, then that's a huge win. I'm excited to see how the 6700m stacks up, and where it's priced. It's 10gb vram buffer should make it a bit more future proof. With mobile Ampere, if you want more than 8gb of vram, you need to step all the way up to a top-end 16gb 3080 config.

The cynical side of me suspects the slower ram on the amd laptop was put in on purpose to gimp it's performance and Nvidia look better.

@Hardwareunboxed

3 жыл бұрын

AMD certified the design including the memory spec which would be a bit odd, assuming the memory supply story isn't correct.

@RahatAzim998

3 жыл бұрын

That is true. But timing on the ram is one of the last things people check when buying a laptop so this seems like an easy thing to go unnoticed by most people. Usually customers will just see 16GB at 3200 mhz and wouldn't inspect further. It's a good thing tech reviewers are bringing this issue into light.

Do we know what the release date is for this laptop or pre-orders? I’ve been looking to upgrade from my Dell G3 3590, and the AMD 6800m is what I’ve been waiting for.

This is what I’ve been waiting for, been holding out since the first look of the Zephyrus G14. If they make a Zephyrus G15 that has this, I’ll buy it without hesitation.

Amd is killing it !!

Going allAMD laptop this year for sure!

love ur laptop testing

Eagerly waiting for reviews on rx6600m. Wanna see how it performs in comparison to rtx 3060. Need a laptop pretty soon.

Already hearing news of nvidia bribing OEMs in China. Don't know it is true or false. Let's wait and see how OEMs implement the RX6000 GPUs. I hope this time I see more laptops with RX6700M.

A GPU we might actually be able to buy! ...we'll see

If you get time. Could you possibly do some research onto which laptops (pick a few of what you have) work best as a docked gaming slash on the go work laptop?? Because in my experience, some have poor external display pass throughs. Like for instance, only the integrated GPU can run the display out , or it’s only hdmi 1.4 or something like that. Or no mini DP available. MSI got rid of there’s , it sucks .

Thanks for the info! Is this a VR Ready capable laptop?

I was just about to buy a 3060 laptop.... I guess i'll wait a bit more...

@ajayprasadcelestial

3 жыл бұрын

Every two months new things come out lul... After u buy something u ll get remorse in the next two months.

@VatchGaming

3 жыл бұрын

@@ajayprasadcelestial Wrong.... You buy something, don't watch new laptop or reviews for new laptops.

@ajayprasadcelestial

3 жыл бұрын

@@VatchGaming well youtube algo is a bitch...

@VatchGaming

3 жыл бұрын

@@ajayprasadcelestial if you keep 'I dont like this recommendation" it will disappear from your feed" :)

@ajayprasadcelestial

3 жыл бұрын

@@VatchGaming oh trust me i did it lot of times.. it still shows up

The price is really good, now if I can buy one is another matter hahaha Gj asus, they went hard on AMD, they even have AMD cpu on their products front page in certain region 👍

Got my laptop yesterday after ordering first hour it went on sale, received a dud :( (Charger brick connection on was bent / broken but still went in and charged, laptop monitor did not turn on - but lights on keyboard / side did). Lucky it isn't out of stock, just ordered a second one hoping for better luck. Nice review!

@cpthuggyface2011

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting, I had the same issue. Dead laptop screen.

I'd love to see more models tested. Early tests of mobile RTX 3000 laptops where a bit meh (vs mob 2000 series) but they seemed to get a bit better with newer designs and more expiration into the TDP allowances. Figured it's the same with RX 6000M. BTW, same CPU vs same CPU would've been better (especially since Ryzen 5000 only have half the PCIE bandwidth of 10th gen or 1/4 of 11th I think). The more apples to apples it is, the better. But I do know how hard benching laptop hardware is... so I don't envy anyone who wants to do a good job at it.

Very impressive, amd destroyed intel already, now nvidio

@bastordd

3 жыл бұрын

Nvidia is laughing 😅

@50H3i1

3 жыл бұрын

Nvidiot

@NeXMaX

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, they didn't destroy them. If they did, then there would literally be no reason to buy an NVIDIA product. As it stands, there are still plenty of reasons to go NVIDIA. It's just that AMD has become much more competitive in order to build up a very strong alternative

@specialisthamster5274

3 жыл бұрын

For Price/Raw performance agreed but RT performance and DLSS can be a game-changer. I have a desktop with 5700 XT and a laptop with an RTX 3080, AMD's drivers were always had problems. They should work more on the software side.

@bastordd

3 жыл бұрын

Let AMD fan boys crying. Watch other reviews is not even close, they changing memory for help amd in overall performance.

So, who paid ASUS to ship review units with gimped memory? Hmmmmm.

Great review as always 👌

I got a similar asus with a rtx 3070 a few mounths ago, prety happy with the purchase, Asus Strix Scar G15 1080px300hz screen at 2000€, prety happy with the price i got it considering that the price is still a good deal today and i bought it when there whwre prety much no pcs to sell

Hardware unblocked

I know I wouldn't pay a dime more for dlss on a laptop. 1080p is too low a Rez to allow dlss to even match how ”good” aka dogshit that it looks at 1440p.

First time going all RED with 10GB 6700M lol It's absurd Nividia keeps handicapping the VRam on their offers!

Can you guys speak to the ability of the 6800M to undervolt? my experience with NAVI 2 is that an undervolt really helps, as per normal AMD is very conservative with its base voltage, to get as many dies as possible to market.

Asus' "current market constraints" is pure BS! They are shipping crappy memory in laptops for many years now.

@haukionkannel

3 жыл бұрын

They are customer friendly constrants ;)

The 6800M should be the 6700M being that it's an underclocked 6700XT. Since they're pricing it near the 3070 Laptop anyway, it would've been better for marketing to call it 6700M beating the 3070 Laptop and even occasionally the 3080 Laptop.

Good review but no mention or testing of Radeon chill. Seems to me chill is an excellent feature for laptops that goes unnoticed.

How will the freesync and gsync screens be affected by this kind of GPU?? Any pointers on that??