AMD B650 Roundup: 35 Motherboards Tested, Complete Buying Guide

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Asus ROG Strix B650-A Gaming Wifi - geni.us/hsmz
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Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX - geni.us/UScs3FC
Gigabyte B650M DS3H - geni.us/CVhH
Gigabyte B650M Gaming X AX - geni.us/NqeP8
Gigabyte B650M K - geni.us/6ihR
Gigabyte B650M Aorus Elite AX - geni.us/fDrEp9
Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX - geni.us/cBkkv
Gigabyte B650M Aorus Pro AX - geni.us/vmwZj
Gigabyte B650 Aorus Pro AX - geni.us/n428E9M
Gigabyte B650 Aero G - geni.us/S9WU
Gigabyte B650E Aorus Master - geni.us/nbN8
MSI Pro B650M-A WiFi - geni.us/S8Ow
MSI Pro B650-P WiFi - geni.us/VkNjyey
MSI MAG B650M Mortar Wifi - geni.us/PrzJ
MSI MPG B650 Edge Wifi - geni.us/VzLDsQY
MSI MPG B650 Carbon Wifi - geni.us/ocgtaxz
MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk Wifi - geni.us/3z7LS
MSI MPG B650I Edge Wifi - geni.us/V2XA
Video Index
00:00 - Welcome back to Hardware Unboxed
00:27 - Ad Spot
01:09 - Introduction
02:37 - Gigabyte B650M K
03:16 - Asrock B650M HDV M.2
03:49 - Gigabyte B650M DS3H
04:08 - MSI Pro B650M-A Wifi
04:34 - ASUS Prime B650 Lineup
05:17 - Asrock B650 PG Lightning + Riptide Wifi
06:34 - Gigabyte B650M Aorus Elite AX
07:01 - MSI Pro B650-P Wifi
07:26 - $200-$210 Price Point
08:22 - Asrock B650 Pro RS
08:34 - $220 Price Point
09:28 - ASUS TUF Gaming B650M-Plus Wifi
09:48 - Asrock B650 LiveMixer
10:28 - $240 Price Point
11:48 - Gigabyte B650 Aorus Pro AX
12:09 - ASUS ProArt B650 Creator
13:14 - Gigabyte B650 Aero G
13:33 - Asrock B650E Steel Legend Wifi
13:59 - ASUS ROG Strix B650-A Gaming Wifi
14:08 - ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi
15:10 - MSI MPG B650 Carbon Wifi
15:38 - ASUS ROG Strix B650E-E Gaming Wifi
16:16 - Asrock B650E Taichi
16:42 - Gigabyte B650E Aorus Master
18:24 - Mini ITX B650 Boards
20:43 - VRM Temperatures
22:43 - Our picks at each price point
27:49 - Final Thoughts
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AMD B650 Roundup: 35 Motherboards Tested, Complete Buying Guide
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  • @SacrificeJP
    @SacrificeJP11 ай бұрын

    This is just insane and the thing is, this will be usefull even after a couple of years for those looking for a cheaper option.

  • @Lainyyyyy

    @Lainyyyyy

    11 ай бұрын

    Will be so useful even in 10 years when I build a budget PC

  • @techconix

    @techconix

    11 ай бұрын

    What if the companies in asia start making cheap b650 boards on aliexpress

  • @PainterVierax

    @PainterVierax

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Lainyyyyy not sure for 10 years but we might see them on used market in 4 years or so.

  • @Lainyyyyy

    @Lainyyyyy

    11 ай бұрын

    @@PainterVierax am already looking at core 2 due motherboards :d

  • @PainterVierax

    @PainterVierax

    11 ай бұрын

    dunno where you live but you'll probably find way more capable and power saving systems for a tiny bit more. Pretty sure LGA 1151 or the old b450 AM4 are very affordable nowadays if you are not looking for the best CPUs of those platforms.

  • @glardimy
    @glardimy11 ай бұрын

    This massive work deserves thousands of likes! Thank you from the community ❤

  • @piotrbiedowicz1602

    @piotrbiedowicz1602

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes, of course this is massive work. But remember, this is his job and he is not doing this for free.

  • @moldyshishkabob

    @moldyshishkabob

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@piotrbiedowicz1602Would you rather he do his job by piddling around and just reviewing one-by-one things that come out? Yes, it is his job to review stuff, but it's also _his choice_ to purchase an absurd amount of motherboards to give us a comprehensive look at basically the entire market. Finding motherboard content is difficult to begin with, let alone one that puts everything all in one place. This is above and beyond "just doing his job".

  • @Simsationxl

    @Simsationxl

    11 ай бұрын

    Millions*

  • @rudymaldonado667

    @rudymaldonado667

    8 ай бұрын

    @@piotrbiedowicz1602 no really??? And how do you suppose he gets paid. Could it be based on how well his video performs based on views AND LIKES?

  • @krjal3038
    @krjal303811 ай бұрын

    What an incredible effort. I've been waiting for a video like this but seeing the sheer amount of work that went into it is stunning. Well done.

  • @Ricky-B
    @Ricky-B10 ай бұрын

    Hi. I don't usually donate, bit this video has been so helpful. The work that went in to making this is phenomenal. Thank you!

  • @Mark-vi2ty
    @Mark-vi2ty11 ай бұрын

    Simply amazing. Cannot even grasp the amount of work it took you.

  • @yeshuayahushua4338

    @yeshuayahushua4338

    8 ай бұрын

    I simply do not understand powerstages or anything like that, but can you tell me what should not go for a620 cheap mobo if I want to put on 7500f and 7800xt?

  • @joxster1112
    @joxster111211 ай бұрын

    Amazing work Steve! You've covered the entire B650 line up and this content will be useful for years to come. Thank you for your efforts mate. Really appreciate HUB's commitment to high quality comprehensive benchmarks, reviews, and testing.

  • @ResidentHaloMan
    @ResidentHaloMan5 ай бұрын

    Absolutely love your work man, every time a mate needs a computer build I go right to you. Keep up the good content!

  • @beerskee
    @beerskee11 ай бұрын

    Amazing work HUB! Thanks for putting this out there

  • @dhLotan
    @dhLotan11 ай бұрын

    What a huge undertaking. Thanks for the amazing content and effort put into these reviews/guides!

  • @yeshuayahushua4338

    @yeshuayahushua4338

    8 ай бұрын

    I simply do not understand powerstages or anything like that, but can you tell me what should not go for a620 cheap mobo if I want to put on 7500f and 7800xt?

  • @kotztotz3530

    @kotztotz3530

    7 ай бұрын

    @@yeshuayahushua4338 You'll be fine with a 7500F on an a620. If you plan on upgrading the CPU in the future, I would stay using a non-x CPU. The X CPU's will need the better VRMs and power stages. BTW, Jesus/Yeshua FTW!!!!

  • @someonebritish6326
    @someonebritish632611 ай бұрын

    The absolute mad lad actually did it. Thank you HU, this is amazing content that nobody else is providing! I will definitely be referencing this for my next build.

  • @Goldthius
    @Goldthius11 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for putting in the effort to have some value tied to the insane amount of motherboards. You guys are awesome!

  • @DBon-oi2ou
    @DBon-oi2ou11 ай бұрын

    Thank you for your outstanding work and reporting. The amount of work you put in to creating this content blows my mind. Just the thought of the repetitive builds and teardowns makes me a little queasy, and that's just the basics. Honestly, your content is a great guide to use when making purchases. More power to you!

  • @Baumrinde63
    @Baumrinde6311 ай бұрын

    Thank you for all the effort you put into your testing

  • @yeshuayahushua4338

    @yeshuayahushua4338

    8 ай бұрын

    I simply do not understand powerstages or anything like that, but can you tell me what should not go for a620 cheap mobo if I want to put on 7500f and 7800xt?

  • @notchipotle

    @notchipotle

    8 ай бұрын

    ​​@@yeshuayahushua4338Any A620 will be fine for the 7500F, just make sure you have enough USB port and storage for your needs.

  • @lemonshark7280

    @lemonshark7280

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@yeshuayahushua4338Basically how power enters your mobo I will explain it easily Let's say your mobo has power running thru basically the power stages helps the movement like how the factory moves crates and stuff around having a better power stage ensures a better quality/efficient mobo

  • @JoHo_
    @JoHo_11 ай бұрын

    This is why you're the 🐐

  • @ss-jk7lt

    @ss-jk7lt

    11 ай бұрын

    Totally agree

  • @prathmeshpatil6425

    @prathmeshpatil6425

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @Noob._gamer

    @Noob._gamer

    11 ай бұрын

    pc s are dead .you can do your work on cloud pc instead . and cloud gaming is mainstream now not pc or console anymore. People are moving to cloud gaming instead of buying a pc or console or laptops. It's the end of hardware market. Phone s are better than a gaming pc. And we can play games on tv with out any trash hardware. And now Microsoft is totally moved in to cloud gaming instead of console. No Xbox console anymore. Only cloud gaming and Microsoft have windows 365 cloud pc witch will kill hardware totally. ..

  • @ThePianist51

    @ThePianist51

    11 ай бұрын

    „MeEeEeEeHhHh…“ *goat sound*😊

  • @olddadagamer

    @olddadagamer

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@Noob._gamerPCs ain't going nowhere . the only thing taking our standard computers to the grave is quantum computers . until then , PCs r much needed for our infrastructure and work flow, every job alike ..

  • @justinwilliams7804
    @justinwilliams780411 ай бұрын

    Great job as always, guys! Love your motherboard reviews. I've rewatched some of your older ones to help with various projects over the years, as you're always very thorough. This one was awesome! Thanks again!

  • @maddhatter0
    @maddhatter011 ай бұрын

    Thank you Steve! I used many of your previous B550 roundup board videos to determine which B550 I wanted to buy. In a couple years this video will still be relevant and great!

  • @PixelShade
    @PixelShade11 ай бұрын

    You're an absolute madman Steve, and one of the reason I love Hardware Unboxed... I honestly have no reason to watch any other tech outlets with these kind of comprehensive overviews! :D

  • @eliadbu
    @eliadbu11 ай бұрын

    Sublime testing and work Steve! I want to thank you a lot for all of your testings, as the knowledge and findings you and Tim share with use, not only help me, but many other people that I help on forums, and I use your channel testings to base my recommendation and advice on.

  • @maroofrehman
    @maroofrehman11 ай бұрын

    For months i am struggling to find a good B650 motherboard yours is the only channel that gives so intricately detailed insight into all the motherboards in this segment it helped me a lot I know it was a giant undertaking but that is why we viewers are subscribed to your channel hardware unbox and you prove it everytime thanks a lot love from India❤

  • @anant0089

    @anant0089

    5 ай бұрын

    so what is the best mobo in 650?

  • @rijulsahu

    @rijulsahu

    Күн бұрын

    @@anant0089 ASRock B650E PG Riptide WIFI for ATX options, or GIGABYTE B650M AORUS PRO AX for MATX option

  • @eugenezenzen
    @eugenezenzen11 ай бұрын

    Excellent and useful video! Especially good editing. I appreciate that the editing is not too tight and I have a chance to breath and think as you move between categories. I will be returning to this video again in the future.

  • @andye7715
    @andye771511 ай бұрын

    Thx for this hard work. Really solid and important review. These days its not easy to find such a comparison anywhere else.

  • @roberthelcher2884
    @roberthelcher288411 ай бұрын

    Steve, thank you for taking the time to create this content. I am currently in the the market for an AM5 board and truly appreciate your amazing content.

  • @ruslan_riazantsev
    @ruslan_riazantsev11 ай бұрын

    Man you are crazy for testing all of those boards and I love it! Great to hear my choise was one of the best (ROG Strix B650E-E). Please keep up the good job!

  • @Macmittens2628
    @Macmittens262811 ай бұрын

    Hey man great work. Super helpful and I’ve been waiting for this one. However I wanted gaming data and boot time data as well. Also you should make a playlist of AM5 mobo videos on your channel so new buyers in the research phase can binge easier

  • @mkcristobal
    @mkcristobal11 ай бұрын

    This is a great video, congrats Steve 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 The best is the conclusion that basically all of the boards are valid options if you are not using a top of the line CPU for compute heavy workloads, like gaming. Great video and I really like your conclusions 👍🏻

  • @darthgregor9232
    @darthgregor923211 ай бұрын

    Love this overview doc - very very helpful to keep info/comparisons in mind! Great work!

  • @aleksagavrilovic4418
    @aleksagavrilovic441811 ай бұрын

    Great work, wish I had this video as a resource 4 months ago when I was making my own pc. I have the asus B650E-E and I noticed you got the specs wrong. You said it had 1 PCIE M.2 Gen 5.0 and 3 PCIE M.2 Gen 4.0, but it actually has 2 PCIE M.2 Gen 5.0 and 2 PCIE M.2 Gen 4.0. It's easy to make small mistakes when you're looking at 35 boards. Great work once again.

  • @SirPashky
    @SirPashky11 ай бұрын

    What an undertaking! Love your MBO comparisons, and this one is is the largest so far. Keep up the good work, Steve! 👌

  • @shadowred1980
    @shadowred198011 ай бұрын

    Thank you for all the work that has gone into this. Keep in mind, many of us happy on am4 will be reviewing this content in the future.

  • @McFlipplenipps
    @McFlipplenipps11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the hard work Steve. I bought a B650M ELITE AX two days before this was released for my 7800X3D as it was the cheapest 8 layer PCB that had the features I needed and was $40 cheaper than the PRO AX in my region - I felt relieved after seeing it near the top of the chart, not too far off the PRO. This is valuable content, appreciate the time you put into it. Cheers.

  • @TRD_Mike
    @TRD_Mike3 ай бұрын

    Great information, thank you for this video. I ended up going with the MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk. Maybe it wasn't the highest rated board, but I had the original B450 Tomahawk and absolutely loved it. Hope I get the same experience with the MAG. Thanks again!

  • @drphibesrises
    @drphibesrises11 ай бұрын

    Great work, very through. There is so much information packed in this video, it will make a good reference to come back to for those doing MOBO research. Thanks for putting so much effort, we appreciate it.

  • @shanez1215
    @shanez121511 ай бұрын

    My man didn't benchmark a few boards, but an entire library! "Thanks Steve!" - Gamers Nexus

  • @Marcus_Wayne
    @Marcus_Wayne11 ай бұрын

    I really appreciate the work and effort you put into this every time, Steve. This is not something that's done and this is one of the reasons I love your videos. Your work is very detailed and very valuable. I see you're not too far from reaching 1M subscribers. Keep up the amazing work!

  • @RH-hz9ly
    @RH-hz9ly11 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much! I was never the one who's usually on the latest platform whatsoever... but for me this is quite a timeless video, people can always look at this anytime. So, thank you so much! Awesome work

  • 7 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much, amazing work. When I buy a new part, I always look at your tests and buy it accordingly.

  • @alpha13sierra
    @alpha13sierra11 ай бұрын

    Thank you for putting in all this hard work, well done! I've got an Asus B650E-E that I purchased a couple of months ago for £325 and, at the time, it was the best all rounder on the market. I've not had any issues with it, everything is working as expected and it's a good pair for my 7950X.

  • @antonioinacioconceicaoreis9004

    @antonioinacioconceicaoreis9004

    8 ай бұрын

    No issues ? Code15 expo works good? And memory restore?

  • @stanisawkowalski7440
    @stanisawkowalski744011 ай бұрын

    The amount of work You guys do is just world leading :]

  • @SagazHero
    @SagazHero2 ай бұрын

    I am used to come to your channel to check on some pc parts testing but this time I had to subscribe, what a great job gathering all those board models.

  • @thereallantesh
    @thereallantesh11 ай бұрын

    This has got to be the most informative comparison video I've seen in a very long time. You guys really went all out. This is the kind of content that gains a channel subscribers. Excellent work.

  • @garytrawinski1843
    @garytrawinski184311 ай бұрын

    This is exactly what I was looking for. I'm putting together a budget to upgrade my current rig to AM5. Thanks Steve!

  • @KAL-589
    @KAL-58911 ай бұрын

    Absolutely incredible! I can only imagine the time and effort gone into this. Thank you so much! ❤

  • @rbspace454
    @rbspace45410 ай бұрын

    Wow, thank you for the in-depth review! I'm amazed at how many choices (CPU's & Motherboards) are out there. 25 years ago, when I started building, there was only a couple parts to choose from...wow!

  • @iaindyer1629
    @iaindyer162911 ай бұрын

    HU knocking it out of the park again (no real surprise there though). Fantastic work. Did my first ever build over last Christmas at the grand old age of 51 and went for the B650E-F. Was going to go for the Tomahawk but on the day at Memory Express the Asus was on sale for around $20 CAD more than the MSI board! Quite the deal and I’ve had zero issues with the whole build (R5 7600x and a “place holder” 6750XT). Again many thanks to HU for all their great work, you and Jason (PC Builder) we’re my go to sources of info on the build.

  • @roboninja1
    @roboninja111 ай бұрын

    Amazing roundup. Glad to see the Asrock Lightning get a good grade. IT is in my current build. I never use wifi on my desktop so it was not a concern.

  • @StefandeJong1
    @StefandeJong111 ай бұрын

    I just subscribed to Patreon just because of the shower amount of work you guys have put in this.

  • @exicx
    @exicx6 ай бұрын

    Thank you for making this! This looks like an insane amount of time and effort to compile this list and provide your reviews. I'm watching this now to build a HTPC.

  • @nunofrednunes
    @nunofrednunes8 ай бұрын

    Amazing work! I've been scratching my head for a few days, trying to make sense of the comparison between just a fraction of these boards... Thanks to this video, you steered me away from a nicely discounted Asus prime... now looking for a nice deal on the ASrock lightning. Thank you!

  • @arenacloser7528
    @arenacloser752811 ай бұрын

    I just bought the MSI MPG B650I Edge mITX motherboard today and then this video is posted... here's hoping for the best 😀 Edit: Looks about middle of the road compared to the features/temperatures on other boards, but it's by far the cheapest mITX motherboard I could find in Aus.

  • @user-vk2cd9qw7i

    @user-vk2cd9qw7i

    11 ай бұрын

    Middle of the road for cheapest is good in my book 👍

  • @johnsamuel1999

    @johnsamuel1999

    11 ай бұрын

    Pretty good actually, middle in terms of features and performance, but the cheapest price

  • @fullsend_ny7948

    @fullsend_ny7948

    11 ай бұрын

    ANYTHING MSI WILL GET THE JOB DONE THEY ARE A FANTASTIC COMPANY WITH STELLAR CUSTOMER SERVICE ANYWAY

  • @hristobotev9726

    @hristobotev9726

    11 ай бұрын

    for me awful decision - this tiny fan ... and no PCIe5 just to save $40-50. ASUS rog is way way better

  • @carlosfdz1579

    @carlosfdz1579

    11 ай бұрын

    How fast does your PC boot? I have a msi mag b650 Tomahawk wifi and it takes more than a minute to boot.

  • @benjaminsieuw3556
    @benjaminsieuw35566 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this amazing review and for the whole lot of work it took!

  • @1MrKale
    @1MrKale10 ай бұрын

    Fantastic work as always Steve! Makes perfect sense that the boot times & performance metrics didn't make the cut, but sad that your work on those wasn't able to be included here.

  • @mech10126
    @mech1012610 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much for this video and efforts you've put into this. I got myself an Asrock p650e riptide wifi based on your recommendations and set up my rig last weekend.

  • @josephjoestar515
    @josephjoestar51511 ай бұрын

    I love you guys. Thank you for everything you do for the PC community!

  • @NoLuv4Hoz
    @NoLuv4Hoz11 ай бұрын

    Thank you, awesome job! I'm convinced that you guys' hard work is a large contributor to why we're seeing better quality mobo offerings from the manufacturers now. I went with the Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi because it came bundled with a 7900X and 32gb for $599 from Microcenter in Feb 2023. Thinking about swapping the 7900X for a 7800X3D as a better pairing for my 4090.

  • @Felixrizzlord

    @Felixrizzlord

    2 ай бұрын

    how has the mobo been u mate? and how is e-f b650 rog strix compared to e-e b650 rog strix

  • @SveinNOR
    @SveinNOR11 ай бұрын

    Holy smokes! This sounds like a LOT of work! Thanks for the informative vid, and all the effort that's put into these videos!

  • @wolfsaddle
    @wolfsaddle11 ай бұрын

    Nice work! I was waiting dearly for this earlier in the year, but I did what research I could and went with the Asus B650E-E. Glad to see you guys gave it the thumbs up. Ever since I had two motherboards fried I haven't gone under 200E for a motherboard and haven't regretted it since. FYI it has a thunderbolt header on the motherboard which might come in handy at some point. I've also been using it on WiFi flawlessly so far. I've paired it with the 7700 and 7900xt and will be watching the market in the following years for a good upgrade, but not too soon as I always wait for some discounts and patches on new games. P.S.: good audio, including optical was also a factor for me.

  • @user-vk2cd9qw7i
    @user-vk2cd9qw7i11 ай бұрын

    Please keep doing these, your b550 lineup video saved me from buying a super bad board that I considered because of the price

  • @stormottr6059
    @stormottr605911 ай бұрын

    For your efforts, I watched it 3 times. We appreciate what you do because its obvious you appreciate what you do!

  • @OMNOLOKO
    @OMNOLOKO11 ай бұрын

    You're my goto motherboard information source. They're well tested and hope this continues. Thank you for what you do!

  • @f3rns
    @f3rns11 ай бұрын

    Thank you Steve for this honest and brutal roundup, I will go for the asrock option because money is tight and is a good motherboard. I'm trying to learn the differences in power stages and discrete mosfets and this guide helps a lot. Amazing work Steve.

  • @QiyuLiu
    @QiyuLiu11 ай бұрын

    I got the Asus B650E-F a few months ago. Very reassuring that it was your best all-rounder pick!

  • @mattyy1566

    @mattyy1566

    5 ай бұрын

    Any problems 5 months in?

  • @RANDOMNATION907
    @RANDOMNATION90711 ай бұрын

    Asrock also has the B650m PG Riptide NON-WIFI model that's priced around $160 usd. I am planning on buying the Asrock (B)B650m-HDV/M.2 and pairing it with the Ryzen 7700 & RX 6800. Thank you for doing all this work.

  • @donaldexley1852
    @donaldexley18529 ай бұрын

    Wow, you guys rock for testing everything in a category. Thanks for putting in all that work!

  • @009federico
    @009federico4 ай бұрын

    Amazing video, it helped me a lot to figure out my options available right now.

  • @sythos_8653
    @sythos_865311 ай бұрын

    12:09 The ASUS ProArt B650 Creator main feature would be the two pcie x16 slots that can be run at x8 each. Which is needed when running two GPUs for 3D rendering applications like Blender. Much less expensive than buying a threadripper or xeon workstation for multiple GPUs.

  • @XxDeViLBrInGeRxX

    @XxDeViLBrInGeRxX

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes, but I think that users that have a multiGPU render PC dedicated for this task, specially if using top tier end GPUs like 4090, most likely have more than enough money to just buy a X670E

  • @Rachit0904

    @Rachit0904

    11 ай бұрын

    @@XxDeViLBrInGeRxX Those X670E boards with dual x8 cost $450+. That's a lot of money if the B650 Creator can do the same thing. It also has a DisplayPort input on the back for DisplayPort over USB-C without the overhead of the iGPU. Useful for those who use a Thunderbolt dock or similar for connecting their monitors and perhaps switching between a laptop and desktop. This also is a feature otherwise only found on $400+ boards.

  • @eukariootti1

    @eukariootti1

    11 ай бұрын

    ASUS *ProArt B650* x16 or x8+x8 *(PCIe 4.0)* straight to CPU 3rd full-sized slot is PCIe 4.0 x4, via Chipset PCIe 4.0 x16 (or x8 + x8) means maximum ~32 GB/s. ASUS *B650E-E* *MAJOR EDIT:* pdf manual says x16 or x8+x4 *(PCIe 5.0)* straight to CPU (other sources + my assumption were: x8 + x8). 3rd full-sized slot is PCIe 4.0 x4, via Chipset PCIe 5.0 x16 (or x8 + x8) means maximum ~63 GB/s. But... x8 + *x4* wouldn't be great for two GPU's... Especially if they don't support PCIe 5.0... 😕 So, if two GPU's (PCIe 4.0 x16) would be enough, boards would sort of kind of work... *But...* ProArt B650 with halved bandwidth for both GPU's (PCIe 4.0 x8). Since RTX 4090 etc. and Proart B650 don't support PCIe 5.0. Which might not be a (major) problem, in practice. Even with todays fastest GPU's. But in the future, it might be... B650E-E's situation is bit weird, assuming pdf manual is correct: PCIe 5.0 x16 for a single GPU --> Absolutely fantastic! Future proof. PCIe 4.0 x16 for a single GPU --> Great! For example, unlimited RTX 4090. PCIe 5.0 x8 for GPU1 + PCIe 5.0 *x4* for GPU2 --> Weird & limiting... PCIe 4.0 x8 for GPU1 + PCIe 4.0 *x4* for GPU2 --> Weird & seriously limiting... Anyways, actual HEDT mobos are much more capable (more PCIe-lanes, flexibility and memory). And very expensive, too. And of course, they require HEDT CPU's etc.

  • @Rachit0904

    @Rachit0904

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@eukariootti1 I thought the Asus Strix B650E-E only has x8 + x4, not dual x8. On the specs page I see: 2 x PCIe 5.0 x16 slots (supports x16 & x8/x4 modes)

  • @mat-mat101

    @mat-mat101

    11 ай бұрын

    The only B650 motherboard as of now to feature dual x16 @ x8x8 mode

  • @sonicbull7276
    @sonicbull727611 ай бұрын

    Man - I'd love to see a test comparing idle power consumption for each board (total system consumption comparison). I leave my PC on almost 24/7 and such a comparison would really help me with upgrade choices

  • @leandronicolas8848
    @leandronicolas884811 ай бұрын

    Just yesterday I was watching a ton of videos on B650 mobos, tremendous work! Thanks!!

  • @ren_gaming
    @ren_gaming11 ай бұрын

    Thank you for taking the time to make this video, helped me a lot. Based on what's available at PLE in their current bundle deals, I decided on the B650M Aorus Elite AX with a 7600X.

  • @juanbustamante185

    @juanbustamante185

    11 ай бұрын

    Hello, I'm having a booting problem with my set, I have a 7600x, ram 2x16 5600 Corsair vegeance, it managed to enter the bios but when it started the boot to install the windows the screen goes black, and it crashes, the start I thought it was the board, I tried it on 3 different ones, gigabyte b650 dsh3, b650m aorus elite and b650e riptide pg asrock and every time I got the same error, when I tried to update them to the latest version it also crashed and I had to force a restart I tried changing the ram memories and nothing, I left only one memory and nothing, I tried changing disks and nothing, the problem keeps appearing, I don't know what else to do, I hope you can help me and thank you very much 🙏

  • @FPCGLeviathaN
    @FPCGLeviathaN10 ай бұрын

    That's a RIDICULOUSLY good review roundup, props to everyone involved, holy shit!

  • @danieljcferreira
    @danieljcferreira11 ай бұрын

    I can't even imagine how much work this video gave you. Im pretty sure the whole community is hugely grateful for your work. Thank you so much for your dedication

  • @Vis117
    @Vis11711 ай бұрын

    Amazing work. This will be helpful for years to come to so many people. You guys rock! My favorite pc channel.

  • @sherbert23
    @sherbert233 ай бұрын

    Subscribed. Easy to follow information! Used your vids before to make quite a few tech buying decisions!

  • @SteeloNZ1
    @SteeloNZ111 ай бұрын

    Amazing work Steve and crew! I originally went with a Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX, great boot times, stability and build quality but it had horrendous coil whine so I returned it. I now have the MSI B650 Tomahawk, it's a great (quiet!) board and will do everything I need and more!

  • @B00h44

    @B00h44

    8 ай бұрын

    I have a tomahawk and can't even get my bios flashed with the usb tool. so I have a rectangular piece of ewaste to RMA and a lot of time lost. I would never recommend this thing to anyone with a newer ryzen cpu

  • @jimijefet7276

    @jimijefet7276

    8 ай бұрын

    same happened to me bro, its insane today i did rma application :D@@B00h44

  • @boi9433

    @boi9433

    7 ай бұрын

    how long is the boot time, and is it faster or slower than gigabyte?

  • @SteeloNZ1

    @SteeloNZ1

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@boi9433boot time is about 40 seconds. Gigabyte board was about 25 seconds. I'm still on an old bios for the msi board. I'm waiting for a while before I update to a new bios. Hopefully I will get better boot times. Not too worried about it though.

  • @JohnDoeWasntTaken

    @JohnDoeWasntTaken

    7 ай бұрын

    @@SteeloNZ1 It's funny we have M.2 SSDs and lightning fast CPUs coupled with the fastest RAM available so far, yet we are now back to HDD era boot times lmao

  • @williamhughes5598
    @williamhughes55986 ай бұрын

    Your hard work put into this research and testing is mind blowing. I hope it's still current being this stuff changes quickly. I purchased the ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WiFi AM5 (LGA1718) Ryzen 7000 Gaming Motherboard based off your findings. I had to replace a MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk w/wifi. Probably a great board, but it has defects after 30 days. The MSI support process is hit or miss I guess, because I am still waiting for support and hopefully the ASUS ROG will let me move on and finally get to game!!! Thanks again.

  • @WyverneFull

    @WyverneFull

    5 ай бұрын

    Update ? I don't know which MB to buy for the 7800x3D. Tomahawk seems to have Bios problems, slow boot, like Asus and with Aorus you have a chance to get coil whine, I'm lost

  • @padanfain7466
    @padanfain74667 ай бұрын

    What a video! Awesome reviews. Thanks. Got to build a more budget PC for my sister and this is a great help.

  • @DrMouette
    @DrMouette5 ай бұрын

    Nice work ! Looking at the motherboards for early 2024. Was looking for the best yet the cheapest motherboard and before you did this amazing video I was targetting the Asrock B650M HDVM2. Maybe price gonna drop even more and thanks to you I have several viable choices here. Thanks again you did and you all does a great job every day !!! Keep going ;)

  • @acfzzzzz
    @acfzzzzz11 ай бұрын

    What a coincidence that I was looking for a b650 board, thank you for providing the most objective review, and this will be useful for at least the next 3 years.

  • @_suki7295
    @_suki729511 ай бұрын

    Surprised there was not much mention around the Q-Code LED's. Those are a major factor in which motherboards are worth snagging. They are extremely helpful in diagnosing and dealing with any technical issues (which are almost always going to happen when buiding your own pc).

  • @progenitor_amborella

    @progenitor_amborella

    6 ай бұрын

    Really wishing I’d find more boards with these. My MSI Gaming M5 Z170A that I used to house my (current) i7-6700k has the LCDs on-board. Ridiculous at the higher price that it’s left out. Manufacturers in all industries have been cutting corners since Covid/chip shortages.

  • @jonboy602

    @jonboy602

    5 ай бұрын

    'Almost always' seems quite the exaggeration.

  • @tealpacific7029
    @tealpacific70293 ай бұрын

    I was stopping the video and crunching the numbers on my features, and before the end, I picked the same best board as you! Cool!

  • @L0wPull
    @L0wPull11 ай бұрын

    Great job man! I needed itx, went with the Strix, and very happy with it so far - but I’m really hoping it comes into its own with next gen AM5 higher mem speeds and clocks :)

  • @agoogleuser2369
    @agoogleuser236911 ай бұрын

    Thanks Steve. You're a Legend. I'm actually relieved to see you have picked the Asus B650E-F and B650E-E as your top boards from the lot (for their respective prices). After much research, just about 3 months ago, I went with the Asus B650E-E for my AM5 build. Didn't mind paying 70 bucks more over the F variant for more PCIe 5.0 and PCIe 4.0 m.2 NVMe ports, and the "premium" dual 7-segment LED code display, which is significantly more useful than the plain 4 LED fault lights off my old board, an MSI B450-GAMING-PRO-CARBON-AC, purchased after your B450 board comparison from several years ago. My B650E-E was initially paired with a 7950X, which I later returned, and purchased a 7800X3D at launch day. Been pretty pleased with this latest build, and happy they seem to have sorted out the 7800X3D CPU voltages in their 1616 BIOS. They were uploading a new BIOS almost every day. It was insane! 😂 Cheers brother! ❤️

  • @oldschool_bamagatrader9960

    @oldschool_bamagatrader9960

    9 ай бұрын

    im planning to buy the same mobo in two days but dont know how to read these numbers of dual 7-segment LED code display .. any hint dude ?

  • @agoogleuser2369

    @agoogleuser2369

    9 ай бұрын

    @@oldschool_bamagatrader9960 Google is your friend! Just ask motherboard code xx and it will tell you!

  • @phero6933
    @phero693311 ай бұрын

    Great work here, motherboard comparisons seem like a pain to do. I've been using a Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX with my 7800x3d since that CPU was released and it's been rock solid. Glad to see it get a favorable mention here.

  • @maxdamage4919

    @maxdamage4919

    11 ай бұрын

    I Buy the same paired with 7600 , very cold mother

  • @trparky

    @trparky

    11 ай бұрын

    Same here, I paired it with a 7700X at the time since the X3D chips weren't available yet. Excellent board, it's got everything that I could've ever asked for on a motherboard.

  • @MMK86

    @MMK86

    11 ай бұрын

    about to build a friend a new system using this board...found it on sale bundled with a AMD 7600X at almost $200 less than buying both separate

  • @JohnDoeWasntTaken

    @JohnDoeWasntTaken

    7 ай бұрын

    @@trparky About to do this same exact combination in my next PC. Any advice regarding RAM setup? I've heard this board can be very picky about dual channel, and that for the first boot it won't post if you use two sticks. Gotta use one, configure RAM settings (what I heard, don't know what that means), then put the other DIMM in and it's good to go. At least that's the procedure I've seen people use when the board refuses to post using two DIMMs, I'm sure most people use two for the first boot anyway.

  • @SoVan1
    @SoVan15 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for all the work accomplished to provide us such accurate informations, I usually love Gigabyte but I have chosen this time the Asrock B650 PG Lightening, the best quality/price ratio for me (don't need wifi), thanks to you !

  • @eriklamelakillingspree7690
    @eriklamelakillingspree76904 ай бұрын

    Bought the MSI Pro Wi-Fi this week in a bundle at micro center. Really like it, thanks for the round up!

  • @martheunen
    @martheunen11 ай бұрын

    Note about the Gigabyte B650E Aorus Master: When populating more than 2 of the 4 (pcie 5.0) M.2 slots the pcie 16x 5.0 slot drops down to 8x speed!

  • @TheGreenReaper

    @TheGreenReaper

    11 ай бұрын

    That's a cool way of doing it, you have the flexibility to go both ways. By the time it matters I suspect 8xPCIe 5.0 will still be enough - if the card natively supports PCIe 5.0.

  • @martheunen

    @martheunen

    11 ай бұрын

    @@TheGreenReaper exactly the reason i chose this board. One 16x slot is enough for me and planning on having the board a long long time and took a bet on 5.0 8x gpus being a thing in the future or at least 5.0 8x still being 'fast' enough for 16x cards by that time. If so I might populate all four M.2 slots. If not, a small pcie card for a 4.0 nvme in the lower 4.0 pcie slot (which runs at 4x I think) will be also fine for a backup/storage drive. Maybe not the most cost efficient mobo, but I 'wanted' an upgrade after 9 years and also liked the look of the board. :)

  • @DomingoX
    @DomingoX11 ай бұрын

    I went with the ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-F because it seemed like the best option on paper. Been running it since the 79050X3D launched and it has been bulletproof. Glad to see it stacks up against all of those other options in practice, too. I'd recommend it to pretty much anyone jumping into the AM5 platform on the upper end of things.

  • @ae86luy

    @ae86luy

    9 ай бұрын

    Asus b650e-f or b650e-e im trying to buy one of these i also bought a 7950x3d and a 4090

  • @Stars-Mine

    @Stars-Mine

    7 ай бұрын

    The big the the A has over the E-F though is intel NIC. That is why the E-F looks better then the A at the same price point, E-F uses a far cheaper NIC.

  • @madwolfa

    @madwolfa

    4 ай бұрын

    Indeed. Just got mine. E-E is kind of pointless, IMO.

  • @BeTheBestBeastt
    @BeTheBestBeastt4 ай бұрын

    Amazing video, I learned a lot from this! Props to you guys for going out of your way to make these sorts of videos! If you guys plan on making another one of these motherboard round-up videos, would it be possible to include the Asrock B650M Pro RS (WiFi) in your testing / review? I've heard lots of great things about it but I can't find any good reviews anywhere!

  • @adamsleath
    @adamsleathАй бұрын

    as i've commented before. thanks so much for these tests! this really helps in making a decision on motherboard choice for me.

  • @SkorpeN11
    @SkorpeN1111 ай бұрын

    I got the Asus B650E-E a few months ago paired with a 7700x. I've really wanted a nice future proof board with useful features. In my opinion one of these must have features is a Q-code display. It saved me a lot of troubleshooting time including the cmos reset button on the back. Too bad board manufacturers nowadays mostly include Q-leds and ask for a premium for such thing.

  • @shadowreaperscpf

    @shadowreaperscpf

    11 ай бұрын

    i have this too its ok no shady overvolting going on with expo on (thank god), guess these regulations in place that work??? insanity i have 7600x tho my bios is behind cause amazon its on 0821

  • @nathansummerhays2093

    @nathansummerhays2093

    11 ай бұрын

    Same exact configuration, I love it

  • @TheBarts27

    @TheBarts27

    8 ай бұрын

    no issues with the intel LAN chipset and internet connectivity problems?

  • @mattyy1566

    @mattyy1566

    5 ай бұрын

    Any problems 5 months in?

  • @BWTHeuSeD
    @BWTHeuSeD11 ай бұрын

    A feature you left out on the Proart board was the front USB C charging - with the added PCIe power can do 60W charging out of the front port, which I don't really see on any other board. That could be nice if having 60W charging to another device connected to your PC is valuable. It's definitely very barren compared to its x670e counterpart though.

  • @Kurotama_STR
    @Kurotama_STR11 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much for that incredible work you put in for us. I do not know yet if I'll upgrade to AM5 or just wait for AM6, but if I do go to AM5, this kind of content will be extremely useful.

  • @darrellid
    @darrellid11 ай бұрын

    Monumental undertaking, Steve. Thank you for doing what you do.

  • @2020Tech4U
    @2020Tech4U11 ай бұрын

    I got the Strix B-650E-F paired with a 7900x and I got them in a bundle with 2 sticks of DDR5 CL6000 Mt/s Dimms, all for like $600 from MicroCenter 4-5 months ago, I have not had any issue's at all, OC'ing OV'ing have been really easy with the BIOS on this board. I have been recommending this board since I got it. For the price it is worth it. More then enough headers and USB. I edit,game and use UE5 Blender, and this has been a great combo. I came off a 5900x and the MSI EK Carbon x570S which was way way more money and I have no regrets.

  • @flybriur

    @flybriur

    11 ай бұрын

    Got that exact same bundle, and I agree.

  • @mattyy1566

    @mattyy1566

    5 ай бұрын

    Any problems 5 months in?

  • @dklingen
    @dklingen11 ай бұрын

    Thank you Steve as this had to be a massive undertaking! I had already purchased the AS Rock Riptide 650E from Microcenter along with a 7800x3d (a great combo deal saving $50) and this just reaffirmed it was a good choice as it gives me the M.2 PCI 5.0 slot for a future path (I installed a M.2 PCi 4.0 2tb for now). Anyhow, I am super happy with my new build thus far.

  • @ninjasamal664

    @ninjasamal664

    10 ай бұрын

    How's the board and the boot times ? I was thinking either this one or the msi b650 tomahawk wifi ? Which one would you suggest ?

  • @ScaLpiuS.

    @ScaLpiuS.

    6 ай бұрын

    can you give your boot times please ? thanks you so much

  • @NirfseTV
    @NirfseTV11 ай бұрын

    After watching your review I got ASrock B560-HDV/M.2, AMD 7900X and a separate Intel AX210 WiFI module for the motherboard. Very happy with the setup. Thanks for another great video!

  • @tlove21
    @tlove2111 ай бұрын

    This video came at the right time, as I am going to upgrade my desktop this year. Prices seem just right this year. Thanks for the video!!

  • @universemaster100
    @universemaster1007 ай бұрын

    Best channel on KZread i watch before buying any pc components.

  • @adamadam6351
    @adamadam63515 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this valuable information 🙏

  • @j.w.grayson6937
    @j.w.grayson693711 ай бұрын

    Thanks for all the hard work Steve!! In the last hour I ordered a ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi/7900x/RAM combo from Micro Center that I'll pickup tomorrow. I am so glad to read that you recommended it!

  • @Protocycle
    @ProtocycleАй бұрын

    Thank you for the video! I originally went for the Asus B650E-F "Like New" from Amazon ($180 - great deal)... but it came with a few bent CPU pins, and I was not going to try my luck after getting a 7800x3D lol I returned it and went for the TUF Gaming B650-Plus WiFi new ($200). it's just been two days since I got it, but it's been awesome so far! The power delivery seems awesome and more than sufficient for my CPU, as it's boosting high on a -35 PBO CO, and keeping temps under 82C during intensive gaming! (Cooler: Thermalright PA 120 SE ARGB) This video helped a lot in finding a middle ground between Power Phases + Amps and VRM temps! Coming from an Asus B550-Plus Prime & 5800X Note: I don't use the WiFi, only the bluetooth... and it works great, but I feel like my ASUS USB-BT500 Bluetooth 5.0 adapter has less latency when there's multiple sounds going to my BT speakers Note #2: I'm not sure if it was my old motherboard, my old CPU, or both, but Jedi Survivor would run at 50-80 frames with FSR Balanced and Medium graphics (both GPU and CPU under 80% load). Now it reaches 100 FPS Epic settings, no FSR. 120-145 WITH FSR Quality (highest) - I play @1440p

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