RIP Meredith, what a horrific story.

In the UK we just feel like Meredith was completely forgotten in the story.

@gabriellemaes4078

2 жыл бұрын

She didn’t kill her.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

She wasn't forgotten but what does that have to do with Knox's and Sollecito's guilt or innocence? I think Sollecito was just as "forgotten" by many people as Kercher. You can blame the media for that. It's the Brit tabloids like The Sun and Daily Mail and the Italian papers that made this about Knox because that's what sold.

@danielwarren3138

2 жыл бұрын

We've got a couple of books from the Old Palace School library my sister never gave back that have a record in their checkout log of Meredith borrowing them. Quite spooky really. I have no idea how we ended up having them, when Meredith was killed my sister had already left the school, must've been dumb luck.

@TangoNevada

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately the most forgotten person is Rudy Guede.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

@@TangoNevada Yes, the sole killer of Meredith who left his copious forensic evidence around, in, and on her body.

"how well did you know this girl Meredith"? Is anyone ever going to show respect for Meredith Kercher? Rest in peace Meredith.

@dellajohnston3601

2 жыл бұрын

Well said

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

The only person not showing Meredith respect is Guede who has never, ever taken responsibility for sexually assaulting and murdering her.

@breakfast917

2 жыл бұрын

@@mytrip6991 What?

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

@@breakfast917 Perhaps I misunderstood what you were trying to say. Do you mean Rogan was not showing respect to Meredith?

@TheBasedCanadian

Ай бұрын

How was that disrespectful?

I was backpacking through europe when this was going, It was everywhere. The details being printed seemed so twisted and absurd it was impossible to figure out what the hell had actually happened.

@PerryCaulkins

2 жыл бұрын

She did it dummy with her psycho boyfriend

@j.j.nesbitt5240

2 жыл бұрын

I lived with a girl who was friends with Meredith whilst on my year abroad in Madrid...was big news at the time. Poor girl

@MissRadi0active

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah Ive seen this case many times, even tried watching documentaries and timelines about it, but it is such a clusterfuck that Im still confused as hell.

Amanda Knox? That was one I didn't see coming Joe.

@tombuckley3659

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@brett444

2 жыл бұрын

FOR REAL!!!!!!!!

@AaronFree03

2 жыл бұрын

Just wait next he’s going to do a video call with Chris Watts lol

@tommyoneill9761

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was rlly surprised.

@Lord_teleport

2 жыл бұрын

@@tommyoneill9761 greetings it is i

I wanna see Joe interview OJ

@jeffmartin9212

2 жыл бұрын

You just did lol

@zeeseeds8151

2 жыл бұрын

Yea this is basically the same thing

@JM-fo1te

2 жыл бұрын

Ray Lewis

@danielbrakke4460

2 жыл бұрын

Haha implying you think she’s guilty ?

@danielbrakke4460

2 жыл бұрын

@@zeeseeds8151 hahah seriously ?

According to the FINAL VERDICT of the Italian courts: 1) Knox was guilty of and did 4 years for falsely accusing her boss for the murder of Meredith Kercher. 2) Knox and Sollecito were in the cottage at the time of the murder. 3) Due to the lack of defensive wounds and the use of 2 different sized blades to kill Meredith at least 2 persons were involved in the murder. 4) Rudy Guede was found guilty of murder and did not act alone. Knox even admitted this to Joe Rogan. 5) The other assailant/s identities remain a mystery. 6) Sollecito's and Meredith's DNA were found on one of the alleged murder weapons: a kitchen knife found in Sollecito's apartment cutlery drawer. It had been disinfected with bleach. But that evidence was seen as non conclusive because hey their respective DNA could have gotten there any random way. 7) Sollecito's DNA was found on Meredith's bra clasp which had been sliced from her bra. But that evidence was seen as non conclusive because the bra clasp had been hidden on Meredith's floor for weeks after the murder and Sollecito's DNA could have landed on the bra clasp any other way. Even though Sollecito didn't live in the cottage and supposedly never went in to Meredith's room. But ok. 8) Amanda's DNA was also found in Meredith's room and Filomena's room. Even though she denied being in either the room of the murder or the room of the staged burglary......but that was also seen as inconclusive. So a lot of interesting coincidences. But that's all they are my friends.

@lesgrossman1274

2 жыл бұрын

Guilty! And the bill is overdue. The 'collector' is coming soon. :)

@rudyguede4587

2 жыл бұрын

@@lesgrossman1274 I am the 'collector'.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

1) "Knox was guilty of and did 4 years for falsely accusing her boss for the murder of Meredith Kercher." Nope. She was finally sentenced to THREE years, not four. Marasca MR, pg 56: "Recalculates the sentence imposed upon appellant Amanda Maria Knox for the crime of calumny in three years of confinement." 2) "Knox and Sollecito were in the cottage at the time of the murder." Based on solely on her calunnia false confession, which, curiously, never mentions Sollecito being there. 3) "Due to the lack of defensive wounds" Kercher had 3 defensive wounds on her hands. The same knife could have made all the knife wounds on Kercher. "b. That detected at the level of the palm of the right hand and the II and III fingers of the left hand can be traced back to possible "defensive injuries" occurred in an invalid attempt to oppose the knife." (Lalli autopsy report, pg. 68_ 4) "...and the use of 2 different sized blades to kill Meredith at least 2 persons were involved in the murder" Prof. F. Vinci's assessment of the wounds completely disagreed: " All the stab wounds reported by Meredith Kercher are perfectly compatible with the use of a single knife whose dimensions are comparable to the traces found on the mattress cover in the room of the victim and referred to in frames n.171, 173 and 174 (progressive numbering of the images collected on the DVD prepared by the Scientific Police." (Vinci Report, June 30, 2009, pg 31_) 5)"4) Rudy Guede was found guilty of murder and did not act alone. Knox even admitted this to Joe Rogan." LOL! Knox agreed that is what Guede was convicted of, not that he did not, in fact, 'act alone'. 6) "5) The other assailant/s identities remain a mystery." There were no other assailants which is why zero evidence of any person except Guede and Kercher was found in her bedroom. 7) "6) Sollecito's and Meredith's DNA were found on one of the alleged murder weapons: a kitchen knife found in Sollecito's apartment cutlery drawer." LOL! Are you freaking kidding me? Sollecito's DNA was NEVER claimed to be on the knife, not even by the prosecution or Police Scientifc Officr Stefanoni who did the analysis. Amanda's was found...because she used the knife to cook with. 8) "It had been disinfected with bleach." Again, LOL! If it was cleaned with bleach, then how the hell could Stefanoni claim Kercher's DNA was on the blade? BLEACH DESTROYS DNA. That's why it's used to clean lab. Your claims just get more and more stupid. 9) "7) Sollecito's DNA was found on Meredith's bra clasp which had been sliced from her bra. " Nope. The conclusion of the two independent, court appointed forensic experts: " we do not accept the conclusions regarding the certain attribution of the profile found on trace B (blade of knife) to the victim Meredith Susanna Cara Kercher, since the genetic profile, as obtained, appears unreliable insofar as it is not supported by scientifically validated analysis" (Conti & Vecchiotti report, ITEM 36 (KNIFE)) 10)..."But that evidence was seen as non conclusive because the bra clasp had been hidden on Meredith's floor for weeks after the murder and Sollecito's DNA could have landed on the bra clasp any other way. Even though Sollecito didn't live in the cottage and supposedly never went in to Meredith's room. But ok." It wasn't non-conclusive at all and the clasp wasn't 'hidden'; it was found across the room in a pile of dust and dirt 6 WEEKS LATER. But how was it likely contaminated? Gee...maybe because the police video shows the incompetent scientific police Stefanoni TOUCHING IT WITH HER DIRTY GLOVE THAT SHE ADMITTED SHE HAD NOT CHANGED AFTER TOUCHING OTHER OBJECTS, DROPPING IT ON THE FLOOR, AND THEN PASSING IT AROUND TO OTHER OFFICERS WITH THEIR DIRTY GLOVES? But, OK 11) "8) Amanda's DNA was also found in Meredith's room and Filomena's room. Even though she denied being in either the room of the murder or the room of the staged burglary......but that was also seen as inconclusive." Oh, dear. NONE of Amanda's DNA was found in Meredith's room! No DNA, no fingerprints, not foot-shoe prints...nada: "However, a matter of undoubted significance in favour of the appellants, in the sense that it excludes their material participation in the murder, even if it is hypothesised that they were present in the house on via della Pergola, CONSISTS OF THE ABSOLUTE LACK OF BIOLOGICAL TRACES ATTRIBUTABLE TO THEM (except the clasp which will be dealt with further on) IN THE MURDER ROOM OR ON THE VICTIM'S BODY, where instead numerous traces attributable to Guede were found. It is indisputably IMPOSSIBLE that traces attributable to the appellants would not have been found at the crime scene had they taken part in Kercher’s murder (the room was of small dimensions: 2.91 x 3.36 m, as shown in the plan reproduced in f: 76)." (Marasca-Bruno Report, pg 47-48) Try again.

@rudyguede4587

2 жыл бұрын

@@mytrip6991 She did four years in prison. You may leave now.

@adcashmo

2 жыл бұрын

@@mytrip6991 Jeez they really are paying you by the word. Good luck affording those rising bills. I'm feel bad for you that soon the McCann case will be aired for all to see and such trolling won't work anymore. Not that you are convincing anyone anyway haha

Why did she accuse her Black boss of the murder? He was easily cleared, he was catering to his patrons when the crime occurred. She also lied about being in her apartment that night and seeing Lumumba there, when in fact she was with Solecito. This is a web of lies, and she only has herself to blame for what happened after. It was obvious she though Italy would be like the USA where it's enough to blame some black guy to walk free.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

1). She didn't bring up her boss, Patrick Lumumba; the police did. The police misinterpreted her text to him acknowledging his text telling her not to come to work that night. She said "Ok, see you later. Good night". The police insisted that meant she planned a meeting with him "later" that night. She denied repeatedly that she had met him or taken him to the cottage but the police calling her a liar. The interpreter told her she had 'traumatic amnesia" and that she'd remember "the truth" if she just kept trying. She had no lawyer which was legally required and the interrogation was not audio or video recorded. The police wrote up the "confession" and she signed it after being worn down. That confession was ruled to be inadmissible in the murder trial due to her right to a lawyer being violated. This is all in the court records. Your need to resort to allegations of racism just shows you have little knowledge of the facts of the case. You do know the actual, convicted, just released from prison murderer--Rudy Guede-- is black? If she were involved she'd know that and, according to you, just have named him if all she wanted was to blame a black guy.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

​@The Hand 1) "She had the opportunity to say her statement was false. She let him stay in jail. To this day, she has not apologized." False. She said in her written statement, aka First Memorial" given to the police the very same day that "In regards to this "confession" that I made last night, I want to make clear that I'm very doubtful of the veritity [sic] of my statements because they were made under the pressures of stress, shock and extreme exhaustion. Not only was I told I would be arrested and put in jail for 30 years, but I was also hit in the head when I didn't remember a fact correctly. I understand that the police are under a lot of stress, so I understand the treatment I received," and "However, it was under this pressure and after many hours of confusion that my mind came up with these answers. In my mind I saw Patrik in flashes of blurred images. I saw him near the basketball court. I saw him at my front door. I saw myself cowering in the kitchen with my hands over my ears because in my head I could hear Meredith screaming. But I've said this many times so as to make myself clear: these things seem unreal to me, like a dream, and I am convinced that they unsure if they are real things that happened or are just dreams my mind has made to try to answer the questions in my head and the questions I am being asked. But the truth is, I'm unsure about the truth and here's why: " In these flashbacks that I'm having I see Patrik as the murderer, but the way the truth feels in my mind, there is no way for me to have known, because I don't remember FOR SURE if I was at my house that night." She is clearly stating that what she said in her 'confession' isn't reliable, including about Patrick. Yet the police kept him in jail with ZERO evidence against him for two weeks. She had no lawyer which was against both Italian and EU law and the interrogation had no audio or video recording. 2) She also DID apologize to Lumumba in court November 30, 2007: “I want to tell the truth. I’m sorry about Patrick. I’m sorry about the whole situation. I’m innocent.” She apologized to him again in her Dec. 11, 2010 appeal statement in court: "Patrick? I don’t see you. But I’m sorry. I’m sorry because I didn’t mean to do wrong to do you. I was very naïve and not courageous at all; I should have been able to withstand the pressures that caused me to do harm to you. I didn’t mean to contribute to what you have suffered. You know what it means to have unjust accusations imposed on your skin. You didn’t deserve what you experienced and I hope you will be able to find peace.” 3) "The court said that she is guilty of defamation, but you blame the police. Concerning the judgement of the court, you want it both ways." Not the same Supreme Court, that was the Chieffi SC that also sent the case back again to Nencini basically with instructions to convict the pair. Which they did. The ECHR has ruled that her defamtion conviction is 'unfair' as her statements were made during an illegal interrogation without a lawyer or a neutral translator. Italy had to pay her $21,000 in compensation and must present a plan on how they will rectify it. 4) "The monster in this murder is not the black guy Guede. The monster in this murder is the white woman Knox. Racism is why people are interested in this incident and why white people defend her." What a load of crap. GUEDE killed Kercher. It was HIS DNA inside her, on her jacket, on her bra and in her blood on her purse. It's HIS fingerprints in her blood. It's HIS bloody shoeprints under and around her body. You just need an excuse NOT to blame a black man for your own agenda. ALL the evidence points directly to him. 5) " It is a pitiable denial of guilt and a hideous appeal to racist tendencies." I've got news for you: sometimes black people ARE guilty just like people of any other color, ethnicity or religion. You clearly are the one with a race problem. It's not we who look at the evidence and not the color of Guede's skin.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

@The Hand LOL! They smoked some weed like everyone else, including Kercher, the Italian roommates, and the boys who lived downstairs. Weed doesn't turn you into homicidal maniacs; it's a depressant. You get the munchies and relaxed..mellow. Their hair tests taken upon their arrests showed NO NARCOTICS of any kind in their systems. Unlike blood and urine, hair does not lose its traces of drugs over time. The prosecution's many unproven and bizarre motives that were changed more often than underwear were insulting. Y So tell me what EVIDENCE puts them in Kercher's bedroom where the murder took place.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

@The Hand I did read your statement and your use of "high on drugs" instead of "marijuana" was, I believe, intentional. You do have 'knowledge of their ingestion' now thanks to me: they had no narcotics in their system. As I said, weed makes you relaxed and with a hazy memory; it does not lead to suddenly and without motive killing someone. Their alibi before the illegal and coercive interrogation of Nov. 5/6 was that they spent the evening at RS's apartment watching a movie, eating dinner, and going to bed. It was still their alibie after retracting their coerced and illegally obtained statements during the interrogation. "It allows multiple possibilities and it allows denial." What a silly statement. " The LAPD framed OJ but he still murdered his wife." At least we agree to that. But there was also sufficient evidence of his guilty without the disputed evidence of Mark Fuhrman. That jury was not going to convict him if they had a video of the murder in front of them. Speaking of dishonest cops, Science Officer Stefanoni failed to reveal in court the fact that ALL the luminol revealed 'footprints' assigned to Knox in the cottage tested NEGATIVE for blood with TMB. It took a defense expert witness to find and present in court the negative tests that Stefanoni had run. Yet Stefanoni repeatedly used the term "luminol revealed' suggesting they were, indeed, made in Kercher's blood. So much so that Judge Massei, even after acknowledging that the blood tests were negative, claimed they were in Kercher's blood!

Damien from Mean girls: "Say crack again." Joe: "Crack."

@kurtstergar1042

2 жыл бұрын

Azz crack.

@polkadotsuzanne9306

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

Joe exhales heavily into the microphone to show how serious this episode is

@icanfartloud

2 жыл бұрын

Or to show how horse worm medicines stole his ability to nayyyyy

@M5MSMSMSMSMSMSMSMSMS

2 жыл бұрын

yo its 4 d radio peeps

@jillmarie180

2 жыл бұрын

I love when he does that.

@a1hocker

2 жыл бұрын

@@icanfartloud Hysterical

@microspect

2 жыл бұрын

DMT side effect

Rest in peace, Meredith Kercher.

What an amazingly wise, knowledgeable, and patient interviewer!! He’s humble and allows the interviewees to speak as they wish.

@dwh8310

2 жыл бұрын

Best format ever to find what his guests are all about

@TheWchurchill4pm

2 жыл бұрын

They sound like old friends.

@DoggoWillink

2 жыл бұрын

New here lol?

I remember how much clamor this story had in Italy. I was just a boy at the time and didn't really understand what had happened, but it must have been one of the most famous cases of my generation. And here I am now, scared by the fact that, through all those spotlights, I have never heard this girl speak.

@tanvancouver7115

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting note. This is an example of tyranny.

@spidaman0112

2 жыл бұрын

Truth

@spidaman0112

2 жыл бұрын

The allergy of tyranny

@MarchelloMastrayani

2 жыл бұрын

🔪🔪🔪

@carter_1

2 жыл бұрын

It goes to show just how powerful the media is. From propaganda to speculation to embedding thoughts and emotions you wouldn't otherwise have... it's really really scary actually. I shouldn't just say media but government actors in society etc. There's been huge atrocities committed by group think. (Found the word/ answer I was really looking for through rambling lol) GROUP THINK... IT IS dangerous!

Wow, she's killing it.

@mytruthslays1303

2 жыл бұрын

Literally

@christopherlegarda5164

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@zampone

2 жыл бұрын

she's killed it already

@danielclark-hughes692

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes you just gotta take a stab at it

@markshmuckerberg9149

2 жыл бұрын

Underrated Comment

This is the most authentic I've ever seen her.

@PowerfulJRE Forget the media forget that she's American for a moment and make a timeline of all the events in detail of both her version and Rudy Guede's, then make your own opinion. The very few people who really did their homework know that she and Sollecito know more than they let out.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

I have and it supports she's telling the truth. Even Guede's timeline supports Kercher was attacked shortly after arriving home and just about 30-40 minutes after the cartoon playing on Sollecito's computer stops. But in that short time, they go from watching a cartoon to deciding to go to her apartment for some unknown reason, picking up a guy that Sollecito has never met and Knox has met briefly, to sexually assaulting and murdering a girl for no reason. Yeah, right. How do you explain the complete and total absence of any forensic evidence of Knox or Sollecito in that room while there is varied and copious forensic evidence of Guede? Guede who had a very clear motive and a history of theft?

@RYANTHEORY_

2 жыл бұрын

@@mytrip6991 In order to believe that Knox and Sollecito are innocent, you have to overlook the following: Knox's accusation against her employer, a claim she made after less than TWO HOURS of being interviewed (not 40, like Team Knox would have you believe - this is a proven fact) and stuck to for 3 weeks, letting her innocent boss rot in jail all the while. The fact that Meredith Kercher’s blood was found mixed inside Knox’s fresh DNA in 5 different spots in the bathroom. The fact the Knox was bleeding on the day of the murder, and left blood smeared in the bathroom, blood which she herself admits was not there the day before. Sollecito’s DNA on Meredith’s bra clasp - with a 16 loci match, the probability that the DNA belongs to someone else is one in a trillion, and with only ONE other DNA trace of him in the cottage (cigarette butt) the idea of contamination is near impossible. Knox’s DNA on the handle of the murder weapon and Meredith’s on the blade. Sollectio tried to explain this by saying he had accidentally pricked Meredith with his knife while she had been at his house. She had never been there. The THREE sets of bloody footprints, one a match for Guede, one a match for Sollecito, and one in Knox’s size, in her own DNA, mixed with Meredith’s. The single bloody footprint on the bathmat, which is a perfect match for Sollecito, and also, being the only bloody footprint with no others around it, is undisputed proof a clean up happened. The blatantly staged crime scene, with glass on TOP of the clothes strewn around, a near impossible window entry point, and not a single trace of Guede anywhere in that room, not to mention the fact Knox and Sollecito ‘knew’ nothing had been taken before anyone had even looked. The fact that Guede’s footprints lead right out Meredith’s room out the front door and he has an alibi for the rest of the night, meaning we KNOW it wasn’t Guede who returned to the scene hours later, staged a burglary, cleaned up and moved the body. The fact that Knox’s lamp was found in Meredith’s room with no fingerprints whatsoever - more proof of a clean up. The incredible amount of changes in her account before, during, and after she was arrested. Total lack of alibi after multiple attempts, and then Sollecito withdrawing his alibi for her. Her dubious account of her activity the morning after the murder, including her lies about Meredith’s locked door, her reaction to the blood, and the contradictions to this she makes in her testimony, email home, and in her book. The fact Knox knew several details about her murder she could not possibly have known: cause of death, position of body, that there had been more than one attacker, that Meredith had been assaulted etc. The frantic call she made to her mother in the middle of the night that she ‘forgets’ making. The witness who saw her and Sollecito by the cottage on the murder night. The shopkeeper who saw her when she claimed to be in her bed sleeping. And I can go on, and on, and on. My point is that, whatever opinion people have as to their guilty or innocence, there is enough evidence to convict, and however many times those claims of “no evidence" are repeated, it doesn't make it true

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

@@RYANTHEORY_ When you need to copy and paste Troll Les Grossman's misleading post, that tells me a lot. I've addressed this particular one before. I'll post it here. I suggest you read it and learn: " The fact that Meredith Kercher’s blood was found mixed inside Knox’s fresh DNA in 5 different spots in the bathroom." When DNA is deposited cannot be dated. That is a scientific fact. Finding the mixed DNA of people who live together and share the same bathroom is common and expected. The DNA does not have to be left at the same time and can be day, weeks or months apart. They become mixed when the sample swab wipes up both sets of DNA. It's like taking a yellow crayon and coloring over a red crayon marking; you'll get orange. "less than TWO HOURS of being interviewed "? The official beginning time of that interrogation was 11:00 but questioning actually began closer to 10:30 per the testimony of Ficarra who was the interrogator. The first statement was at 1:45. Unless "Mike Hunt" uses different math than the rest of us, that is not 'under TWO HOURS". "The fact the Knox was bleeding on the day of the murder, and left blood smeared in the bathroom, blood which she herself admits was not there the day before." Two small drops on the faucet were not proved to be deposited on the day of the murder. Just because Knox says she didn't see it on Nov. 1 is not proof it wasn't there. Logic says if she had seen it, she'd have cleaned it up. At the very least, she'd have lied and said she saw it but forgot to clean it. No wounds or cuts were found on Knox. "Sollecito’s DNA on Meredith’s bra clasp"....along with the DNA of at least two other unidentified men. Did those two men also touch MK's bra hook? Two independent, court appointed...not police...forensic experts (Conti and Vecchiotti) determined that DNA was not reliable evidence and most likely due to contamination resulting from the egregious failure to follow anti-contamination protocols by the police. "the idea of contamination is near impossible". Not according to the police video which shows the hook being touched by a visibly dirty glove, handed around to several officers also wearing gloves that Stefanoni admitted were not changed between handling evidence. "Knox’s DNA on the handle of the murder weapon and Meredith’s on the blade" Meredith's DNA was not on the blade as concluded by two independent, court assigned forensic experts. Experts who had more advanced degrees in forensics and more experience then Stefanoni who claimed MK's DNA was on the blade. Nor was any blood found on the knife after repeated testing. The only way to remove all traces was by soaking in bleach...which would have destroyed any existing DNA. "The single bloody footprint on the bathmat, which is a perfect match for Sollecito" Not according to Prof. Vinci who used Crimescope, a forensic lighting tool used to make photos more visible, and who also examined the mat in person, neither of which the prosecution expert did. He excluded Sollecito. "and also, being the only bloody footprint with no others around it, is undisputed proof a clean up happened." There is no forensic evidence of a clean up. None. Logic says that, if that were Sollecito's print, the pair would have removed the rug or at least washed it. Instead, they pointed it out to the police. i could continue with the rest of his lies, but i think I've proved what a liar he is.

Get Joosey Smooulayyy next on the show!

@captainspaulding5963

2 жыл бұрын

You know who I'm talking about...Very French actor....

@kadeemk4679

2 жыл бұрын

😭🤣 classic

@stockontruthchannel2631

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/a4OBpZOid8efc9I.html Breaking..unbelievablek

@maxpain8569

2 жыл бұрын

Juicy Smallest

@speedyygonzales2488

2 жыл бұрын

Justice for juicy.

R.I.P Meredith ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@coliimusic

2 жыл бұрын

LMAO

@existentialcrisis9757

2 жыл бұрын

R.I.P Meredith.

@coliimusic

2 жыл бұрын

@Nik Palmira I was laughing at the bot, they get worse and worse every time

@monicanath4859

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely Tang-may our lovely English beauty be at peace finally 💖💖💖!

@ianjacka469

2 жыл бұрын

@@monicanath4859 I agree with you about the murder case, but hate to tell you that Tang is a bot not a real person, KZread is getting plagued with them at the mo.

I remember in 1st grade someone tagged on the teachers stuff and she asked us all to write on a piece of paper so she could compare our handwriting. Jokingly I used the same crayon as the tagging and the teacher actually got me in trouble for the tagging which I didn't even do! That's when I realized you can be accused and convicted of a crime you never committed. I learned that in the 1st grade. Then when I was like 14 I had to pay for a laptop I didn't even break with two other kids and I was like well what if it was this other kid broke it too because if I blamed him then we would split the cost between 3 kids instead of just two. So basically I took someone down with me just because I was accused to have less punishment. So twice accused and prosecuted for things I did not do! I was never found innocent 🤷‍♀️

A serious of unfortunate coincidences lead people to think she’s guilty. 1. Meredith had cut her finger on Raffaele’s vegetable knife, leaving her blood on it. 2. Raffaele spilt some water in the early hours of the morning following the murder, which meant Amanda had to buy two tubs of bleach and fetch her mop first thing in the morning. 3. The next morning blood from Amanda’s ear bled into Meredith’s blood in the sink area making it look like their was a struggle between the two. 4. Amanda has this whacky zaney personality than makes her display all the traits of a liar but actually she’s just neurodivergent. 5. Amanda and Raffaele turned their phones of that night for the first time making them look suspicious. I could list more. The poor girl is just couldn’t get a break when it came to all these coincidences piling up.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

"1) Meredith had cut her finger on Raffaele’s vegetable knife, leaving her blood on it.' Repeated tests found no blood on the knife. (Forensic reports Stefanoni and Conti/Vecchiotti) "2. Raffaele spilt some water in the early hours of the morning following the murder, which meant Amanda had to buy two tubs of bleach and fetch her mop first thing in the morning." Knox never bought any bleach. (Testimony Quintavalle store owner, no bottles found in cottage, no evidence of a clean up per court records) "3. The next morning blood from Amanda’s ear bled into Meredith’s blood in the sink area making it look like their was a struggle between the two." No wounds were found on Knox per doctor examination Nov. 6, 2007. No evidence of a struggle between Knox and Kercher. "4. Amanda has this whacky zaney personality than makes her display all the traits of a liar but actually she’s just neurodivergent." What are 'all the traits of a liar'? Those things that you believe are lies because you see everything through guilt colored glasses? "5. Amanda and Raffaele turned their phones of that night for the first time making them look suspicious" Yeah, having a new romantic relationship and not wanting to be disturbed or called into work when being unexpectedly given the night off due to slow business is just so....so...so....illogical. New lovers would never do that! "I could list more. The poor girl is just couldn’t get a break when it came to all these coincidences piling up." Yeah. Like what are the chances that not a single piece of forensic evidence could place Knox in the room where Kercher was violently sexually assaulted and stabbed to death with a knife? But Guede left bloody shoeprints under and around the body, fingerprint/palm print in blood under the body, and his DNA in her body, on her clothes, and in blood on her purse? Go figure.

@petelovatt8357

2 жыл бұрын

@@mytrip6991 “No evidence of Meredith’s blood on the knife”. And yet we know it had been there because Rafa told us she’d had a vegetable chopping accident. Likewise, for Amanda’s ears. She told us they were all leaky. How unfortunate in both cases. All that blood getting spread around. I’ve seen you replying to every comment on every knox video. Literally thousands of comments in total. I can only asssume you’re employed by her team.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

@@petelovatt8357 LOL! Sure. Whatever.

@Hangar.18

2 жыл бұрын

@@petelovatt8357 amanda knox's team is on the offence. I think that they are trying to win people over to their cause,because in 2024 rudy guede also might write a book.

@petelovatt8357

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hangar.18 Unfortunately, Rudy has changed his story a few times just like Amanda and Raf., so he has no credibility either. However, I think if you wade through the lies there are a few truths in there. He said he knew Raf and they’d smoked weed together. He also said an argument broke out between the girls because Meredith accused Amanda of stealing her money. I can see this being true as well. If Rudy gives us the same chit about “it all happened while I was on the toilet” then his book won’t count for much. However, if he decides to own up AND include Amanda and Raf’s involvement, then he’s probably hovering closer to the truth than any version of the story yet. I wouldn’t count on it though. He’s a turd.

RIP Meredith 🙏💜

@connsaunders9600

2 жыл бұрын

We Brit's and Italians all know the truth.

@kelliehu8749

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@ryanwagner7980

2 жыл бұрын

Which is…? (Serious question, curious to hear the general sentiment on the other side of the globe)

@connsaunders9600

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanwagner7980 Yankee dollars don't just talk - they lie.

@connsaunders9600

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanwagner7980 Please don't take that as a trite statement. Would OJ Simpson have got off if he had been poor, would Micheal Jackson ?

I'm from Italy and I was 10 when this case happened. I remember very clearly the 4 to 5 years that followed the fact, all the news and the media talked exclusively about Amanda and the whole case, at least 4 times a week. It was exhausting to say the least.

@carter_1

2 жыл бұрын

It goes to show just how powerful the media is. From propaganda to speculation to embedding thoughts and emotions you wouldn't otherwise have... it's really really scary actually. I shouldn't just say media but government actors in society etc. There's been huge atrocities committed by group think. (Found the word/ answer I was really looking for through rambling lol) GROUP THINK... IT IS dangerous!

@MrsLyds

2 жыл бұрын

Same happens in Greece , they talk about it on the news and on the before and after shows non stop for months.. soooo annoying 😩

@mattrutledge6840

2 жыл бұрын

I was hoping that we would take Italy to war for imprisoning one of our citizens. I still think we should've and sent a message to the world that America will not tolerate that type of barbaric mistreatment of our people.

@antidoteforlife9460

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattrutledge6840 dumbest comment ever. Italy is an ally genius, just because they made a mistake doesn't mean any other innocent should get hurt. It's not teaching anyone a lesson but how much of a bully ppl like you are

@Oscar61985

2 жыл бұрын

@@antidoteforlife9460 “Made a mistake” That’s a bit of an understatement.

For some reason I don't believe her

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

Because you don't know the facts of the case?

@lesgrossman1274

2 жыл бұрын

Amanda Knox is a convicted liar who did four years in prison.

@rudyguede4587

2 жыл бұрын

It's because she is a liar.

@lesgrossman1274

2 жыл бұрын

@@rudyguede4587 Yes, that is correct. A liar and a murderer.

@treaclebuns

2 жыл бұрын

@@rudyguede4587 So anything she might have said or wrote allegedly placing her at the crime scene is a lie, right?

One thing I will say is I hope Merediths family find peace one day.

@kayhawkins5925

2 жыл бұрын

Her family thinks she is guilty and helped murder their daughter.

@stockontruthchannel2631

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/a4OBpZOid8efc9I.html Breaking..unbelievable.

@travislee9396

2 жыл бұрын

@@kayhawkins5925 and some people think the world is flat, just because someone thinks something, doesn’t make it true.

@Supastarr1976

2 жыл бұрын

@@travislee9396 You don't know the truth, actually NONE of us do.

@well_i_liked_it

2 жыл бұрын

@@travislee9396 You are talking about the murdered girls parents who followed every single shred of evidence of the case and the investigation.

This was such a big story in Italy, I was just a kid when it happened but it was on the news every single day, stuck in my memory now

@KevinUchihaOG

2 жыл бұрын

@becibooable1 how can you be certain lol?

@CarringDevil

2 жыл бұрын

Yep it's Italy OJ Simpson trail

@melanistar

2 жыл бұрын

Idiots

@taylororourke2525

2 жыл бұрын

Well, as someone who lived through the whirlwind trial... Do you think she’s innocent, Ousmane?

@floppyrichard

2 жыл бұрын

@becibooable1 you are cappin bro. 😂😂

This case reminds me of the "Beatrice 5" case here in Nebraska. The local sheriff's department and court system convicted 5 people of a murder using interrogation dirty tricks and fabricated evidence. The higher courts released all 5 people after a man already imprisoned confessed to the crime and gave details that only the perpetrator would know about. The 5 people received a court settlement worth millions of dollars but not one cent has thus far been collected, one of 5 died in an accident after his release.

@TheWchurchill4pm

Жыл бұрын

I literally didn’t know about this case until I saw the “Mind Over Murder” documentary

@sandhanitizer15

Жыл бұрын

Beatrice 6

@jennamarie4009

Жыл бұрын

i’m from omaha and i have never heard of this

In order to believe that Knox and Sollecito are innocent, you have to overlook the following: Knox's accusation against her employer, a claim she made after less than TWO HOURS of being interviewed (not 40, like Team Knox would have you believe - this is a proven fact) and stuck to for 3 weeks, letting her innocent boss rot in jail all the while. The fact that Meredith Kercher’s blood was found mixed inside Knox’s fresh DNA in 5 different spots in the bathroom. The fact the Knox was bleeding on the day of the murder, and left blood smeared in the bathroom, blood which she herself admits was not there the day before. Sollecito’s DNA on Meredith’s bra clasp - with a 16 loci match, the probability that the DNA belongs to someone else is one in a trillion, and with only ONE other DNA trace of him in the cottage (cigarette butt) the idea of contamination is near impossible. Knox’s DNA on the handle of the murder weapon and Meredith’s on the blade. Sollectio tried to explain this by saying he had accidentally pricked Meredith with his knife while she had been at his house. She had never been there. The THREE sets of bloody footprints, one a match for Guede, one a match for Sollecito, and one in Knox’s size, in her own DNA, mixed with Meredith’s. The single bloody footprint on the bathmat, which is a perfect match for Sollecito, and also, being the only bloody footprint with no others around it, is undisputed proof a clean up happened. The blatantly staged crime scene, with glass on TOP of the clothes strewn around, a near impossible window entry point, and not a single trace of Guede anywhere in that room, not to mention the fact Knox and Sollecito ‘knew’ nothing had been taken before anyone had even looked. The fact that Guede’s footprints lead right out Meredith’s room out the front door and he has an alibi for the rest of the night, meaning we KNOW it wasn’t Guede who returned to the scene hours later, staged a burglary, cleaned up and moved the body. The fact that Knox’s lamp was found in Meredith’s room with no fingerprints whatsoever - more proof of a clean up. The incredible amount of changes in her account before, during, and after she was arrested. Total lack of alibi after multiple attempts, and then Sollecito withdrawing his alibi for her. Her dubious account of her activity the morning after the murder, including her lies about Meredith’s locked door, her reaction to the blood, and the contradictions to this she makes in her testimony, email home, and in her book. The fact Knox knew several details about her murder she could not possibly have known: cause of death, position of body, that there had been more than one attacker, that Meredith had been assaulted etc. The frantic call she made to her mother in the middle of the night that she ‘forgets’ making. The witness who saw her and Sollecito by the cottage on the murder night. The shopkeeper who saw her when she claimed to be in her bed sleeping. Her overall behaviour after the murder. And I can go on, and on, and on. My point is that, whatever opinion people have as to their guilty or innocence, there is enough evidence to convict, and however many times those claims of “no evidence" are repeated, it doesn't make it true.

@kelseyathome5549

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting

@sweetcreature5998

2 жыл бұрын

what did she say in the frantic call to her mom? where does it cover that this happened, i heard all of the other points but not that

@johnspence8141

2 жыл бұрын

Don't let facts enter into this!

@Henry-vu5sg

2 жыл бұрын

@Mike Hunt Excellent but not exhaustive list. She framed her boss accusing him of rape and murder. She was convicted of that. Why is that always overlooked?

@netero6751

2 жыл бұрын

All of this is wrong

For people that are not trained to resist interrogation after 24 hours of constant interrogation you won’t even remember the truth once the hunger fatigue fear and delirium sets in

@freakmeoutwillu

2 жыл бұрын

yup thats true af

@teqzilla

2 жыл бұрын

But she didn't experience 24 hours of constant interrogation. That claim, like much of what Knox claims about the trial, is an outright fabrication

@28gs28gs

2 жыл бұрын

That’s true except she willingly was interrogated for a short time. Like 4 hours. I’ve had a 14 hour work day in the Chicago winter outside and it never caused me to hallucinate

@bighands69

2 жыл бұрын

You have to be trained so as to only answer with truth or information that you are aware of. You cannot answer speculative questions and for most questions your answer is just going to be no comment as you truly are not going to be able to answer the question.

@katelewis536

2 жыл бұрын

Hunger fatigue? Do you even know where Italy is? It is not Afghanistan…..it’s the western world. She was not tortured.

I remember looking into this years ago and being left with the idea that this girl knows way more than she claims.

@dahliafiend

2 жыл бұрын

Ahhh. Guilty it is then!

@JGunit

2 жыл бұрын

And now?

@zampone

2 жыл бұрын

hard to call it out for sure, but she hid so many things and changed versions so many times that her self-proclaimed complete innocence is hard to believe

@SaydeeEnward4500

2 жыл бұрын

No one innocent would be doing cartwheels in court being accused of murdering her best friend

@lauchzwiebel

2 жыл бұрын

@@SaydeeEnward4500 her best friend...what

Whether she did or didn’t murder Meredith she’s very obviously a narcissist 🙄no sympathy for the victim , all about herself

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your professional input, Dr Raindroponroses.

@TheWchurchill4pm

2 жыл бұрын

@Raindropsonroses - I’ve read her book and seen the interviews she conducted called “The Scarlet Letter Reports.” They show that she is very caring and thoughtful.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWchurchill4pm Which is how her friends describe her; friends she's had since childhood. Friends who not only stood by her throughout this decade long ordeal forming a group "Friends of Amanda" to help her, but who flew to Perugia to testify to her character and one, Madison Paxton, who moved to Perugia to be there for her. 'Narcissistic psychopaths' don't have friends like that. But these armchair psychologists who know virtually nothing about her except for the tabloid nonsense they and the prosecution created, feel entitled to declare they know she's a psychotic narcissist. Dunning -Kruger at its finest!

Can’t help it but my sliders senses are saying you had something to do with it, the reactions and words that come out of her mouth don’t reflect a innocent person

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

Your 'sliders senses' against the evidence...or lack thereof. I'll go with the evidence...or lack thereof.

As a former officer trust me when I say, NEVER talk to the police without an attorney. Especially, if they say you are not a suspect they just want to gather some information. I’ll never forget day one on the job our police union president explained, if we ever get in trouble on the job (arrested,etc.) we should never speak to the investigating brass without FIRST calling our union-provided attorney . I remember that moment distinctly. I thought to myself, damn, if the POLICE themselves want an attorney present when they being interviewed by their fellow officers---- you better bet a citizen needs an attorney as well 🤷‍♀️. Also, never blow if being pulled over for a DUI.

@utubedestroysmytime

2 жыл бұрын

Really I learned that lesson by chance. I watched cops and always saw the people who never said shit and didn’t do shit get out. I got pulled over , did not do an FST , did not blow, didn’t consent to blood, I spent the night in jail and the next day my lawyer had to get me my license back but I didn’t get a DWI! My lawyer gave me props and I even showed her how one can order new licenses online

@TheWchurchill4pm

2 жыл бұрын

@brandihillcom I can tell you must have been a good cop, because the only difference between a good cop and a bad cop - a good cop knows their job isn’t supposed to be easy. Thank you for your service to your community 🇺🇸👮

@anthonygonzalez9422

2 жыл бұрын

@@utubedestroysmytime Cant they obtain a search warrant to draw blood if under suspicion of DUI?

@KelleyBroussardMackaig

2 жыл бұрын

Can I ask you to elaborate on what you meant by "never blow it being pulled over for DUI". I was under the impression that if you refuse a blow test when you've been pulled over due to suspicion of driving under the influence, that they'll just draw your blood when you get to the police stanytion...? Am I wrong about that? Thanks in advance!

@brandihillcom

2 жыл бұрын

@@KelleyBroussardMackaig @AnthonyGonzales sometimes they do pull a warrant for blood draw. which takes time (which is a good thing), generally it is only done when a fatality or significant bodily harm has occurred or say you yourself are too injured, unconscious to do the breath test. There is a video on KZread of a nurse who they arrested because she Rightfully refused to draw blood of suspect without a warrant. The video is horrific to watch but I think she sued agency for incredible amount of money. Taking someone’s body fluids is pretty fucking serious overreach-- asking hospital to do it without a warrant is insanity.. Generally speaking if you are respectful and easy going and just politely say something like “ respectfully, my aunt is an attorney she has advised me it’s in my best interest to not do the breathalyzer.” They will be cool. You are also telling them in a polite way you have representation (this is something most people they deal with can’t afford so it’s kinda like what’s the point she has an attorney that’s gonna get her off and I’m gonna be forced to sit in court over this- maybe they’ll juat be cool abd not make a big deal. Every officer will be different obviously. A lot of states (Florida where I live ) will automatically suspend your drivers license when you refuse to take a breathalyzer. Sometimes officers will tell you this to “encourage” you to take the test. Juat know if you blow over the limit your license is gonna get suspended anyways 🤷‍♀️-- keep in mind if you remain respectful in courtroom too most judges will give you hardship license so you can atleast do your basic task such as take kids to school and go to work…. But it you blew some crazy high number and say you have a past dui or some other past traffic record they may be less likely to be as flexible. Essentially by not blowing you are giving the prosecutor less evidence to work with . Always being nice and respectful to officers and courts “yes mame no sir” etc helps alot!!!

Yes, "questioning your own sanity" is an actual thing that happens to people during interrogation, people literally end up confessing to crimes against people they've never even met... It's a legit psychological phenomenon that occurs. And FYI Amanda didn't even confess....Amanda is an inspiration.....the prosecution and the media harassed and literally made a disgusting fiction out of such a young girl (barely an adult), in a foreign country with less than child's communication skills...the legal system of Italy lied to a 20 year old, that she's HIV positive! They didn't even tell her what she was being imprisoned for! The media published her private diary..

@gizzyguzzi

2 жыл бұрын

hard to believe it was legal in Italy to interrogate her for so many hours with no interpreter and no lawyer.

@TheWchurchill4pm

2 жыл бұрын

She should be a guest speaker at police academies, talking about the dangers of taking short cuts during investigations.

@rogerdavies2796

2 жыл бұрын

I guess you must have been born yesterday. Your naivety is off the scale

@pedronogueira7689

2 жыл бұрын

She is guilty lol

@rikidoni24

2 жыл бұрын

@@gizzyguzzi She wasn't brought in, her boyfriend was called and she just went with him, when she was there she talked to the police and if you are not a suspect in Italy you don't need to have a lawyer, you can ask for one but you can still release a statement

One of your best yet Joe

even After the Netflix documentary and this podcast She looks and talks and act like She did It

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

"Looks, talks, and acts" like she did it...in your totally unbiased interpretation, right? So, tell me what EVIDENCE makes her 100% guilty? Was it the bloody footprints or shoe prints in Kercher's blood? Nope. There was none. Was it her DNA found anywhere in the room where the murder occurred? Nope. There was none. Was it her fingerprints in that room? Nope. There was none. Was it her motive? Nope. There was none.

Podcast guest : Wrongfully imprisoned female Joe: Somehow manages to bring up Saunas and that dude that faked being an MMA fighter.

@brittanym2080

2 жыл бұрын

Look up Prison Stories - Gassing A CO 💩 💩 😂

@Guy-wl8jk

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah... people can have conversations on just about anything. Its pretty neat.

@StimParavane

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe correctly imprisoned female. But hey she's American so must be innocent. Drone strikes anyone?

@dereksmith3981

2 жыл бұрын

LOLOLOLOL

@MarchelloMastrayani

2 жыл бұрын

Correctly imprisoned and incorrectly released*

To quote the Italian comedian Normo McDonaldio, "It's official, murder is now legal in the country of Italy."

@pipicacadanslepot

2 жыл бұрын

LMAO

@scaperune32

2 жыл бұрын

Nailed it 🏅

@tjeerddebruin

2 жыл бұрын

well done 😆

@billyelliot4141

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@Ryguy-lg2xz

2 жыл бұрын

I guess it’s legal if you’re in the mobster

For a brilliant take on her case, read Malcom Gladwell’s ‘Talk to Strangers: The things we should know about the people we don’t know’

hey joe .....why was amandas lamp in the murdered girls room ? the bedroom door is LOCKED....there are no footprints of a stopped person locking the persons door. ? you come home ...your door is open....theres blood on the tap of the bathroom and a footprint on a bath math....she takes a shower then shuffles into her room on a bath matt ??? you know all those menstruating women who bleed on the bathroom taps....and you know the way you dont call the police when you see all this...

@mytrip6991

Жыл бұрын

Probably because Meredith borrowed it as Amanda had spent the last week at Raffaele's apartment and didn't need it. Meredith had one 60 watt light on the wall over her bed and one 40 watt table lamp on her bedside table. Her desk was not near either light so she probably had to unplug her table lamp and take it to her desk at night if she was doing homework there. How do I know about these lights? Because I read the police reports in the court documents. Amanda didn't know Kercher's door was LOCKED when she first went home to take a shower. Why would she try to open a roommate's door? She had called out and no one answered so she assumed no one was home. It was around 10:30 AM so not like it was 3:00 AM. Why would there have to be footprints of someone locking a person's door? Do you think footprints and shoeprints are left everywhere a foot or shoe touches? If so, they'd be so overlayed in the corridor where they walked everyday that they'd be completely unusable anyway. Finding the door open at a logical reason: the latch was broken and the wind would blow it open if just pulled shut and not locked with a key. She assumed one of the other girls had either forgotten to lock it or just ran out for a minute. There were 2 tiny drops of dried blood on the faucet which she assumed may have come from her infected ear piercing. Would two tiny drops of blood on a faucet make YOU think a roommate's been murdered? She didn't see the blood on the bathmat until AFTER she showered and it didn't look like a footprint, but just a pinkish watery blob. Do a google search for it see for yourself. Be sure it's one of the police photos and not one that's been enhanced to look darker. It's not like the bathroom was covered in blood. As people do, she looked for a plausible explanation: did Meredith have an accident and maybe ran to the pharmacy to get a bandage leaving the door unlocked? Did she have a menstrual accident? You sound like a man who has no idea just how heavy some women's flow can be on the first day. Why shouldn't she shuffle the few feet to her room on the mat as she was dripping wet and the floor was tile; tile is slippery when wet. She hadn't noticed when she got in the shower that all the towels were gone; Guede had taken them to Meredith's room. Why should she call the police when all she's seen at this point is her door open (logical explanation) and the kitchen/living area and her own room looked completely normal? There are a couple tiny drops of blood on the faucet (logical explanation), a watery blob of blood on the bath mat (plausible explanation), and she sees some feces in the other bathroom where she went to use the hair dryer. None of those is a reason to call the police. Police: What is your emergency? Amanda: I came home and my door with a broken latch that blows open with a gust of wind was open... Police: And? Amanda: I saw two tiny drops of dried blood on the faucet... Police: Two tiny drops of dried blood? And you need the police for that? Amanda: Well, then there's a watery splotch of blood on the bathmat and someone didn't flush the toilet! Police: Miss, we have more important things to do than figure out who didn't flush the toilet! (Mama mia! "Crazy Americans! )

@mytrip6991

Жыл бұрын

Some people have to twist themselves into a pretzel and abandon logic in an attempt to make something out of nothing. If Knox had taken that lamp into Kercher's bedroom AT NIGHT and, according to the police, had all NIGHT to clean up, then it's impossible for her not to know her lamp was not in her own room as it was the ONLY source of light. It is entirely implausible that she would not be aware of her own dark room and equally implausible that she would not have retrieved it during the 11+ hours between the murder and the discovery of the body. Also implausible is, if she had left it in Kercher's room and only become aware of it later, that she would not have simply claimed Kercher had borrowed it as she was staying at her boyfriend's house so not using it.

Man I couldn't believe this when I first heard about the Amanda Knox story. It's so absolutely insane.

@mikimiyazaki

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bone_Thug did you save the juice and mix it with some fresca?

@Lord_teleport

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikimiyazaki i have returned

@JudgeDredd_

2 жыл бұрын

Amanda will kill again

@drwerwolfenstein7124

2 жыл бұрын

@MR IV DNA doesn't lie, the Italian authorities aren't well known for their police work. The prosecutor has become a national joke. People who think Amanda Knox is guilty are just a little slow. Seriously. The guilty guys DNA everywhere. Italian authorities are like, "witchcraft". Better be glad that didn't happen to you in another country.

@Jay-qj9zk

2 жыл бұрын

She's a literal murderer lmao

Back to the old days with this iconic background. I miss the comment section. I MISS US 😩😭😭

@johnkingston3363

2 жыл бұрын

Spotify is scared of the comment section sadly...... 😢

@whitericeboi

2 жыл бұрын

This is his new background

@mrobinh8

2 жыл бұрын

This is his current background

@johnkingston3363

2 жыл бұрын

@CastAirLead You are clueless.

@johnkingston3363

2 жыл бұрын

@CastAirLead Then you should do what everybody else does in the world, and stop taking opinions as facts. Give an example.

Why call her "this Meredith girl" Meredith is the only victim in this crime.

@TheWchurchill4pm

Жыл бұрын

@JeanKanengoni - Meredith is THE victim. But Amanda is A victim. So are Raffaele and Patrick Lumumba, and all of their families.

@jeankanengoni9354

Жыл бұрын

@@TheWchurchill4pm My focus was on Meredith, whom the interviewer called "this Meredith girl" why call her "this ... girl" Lumumba never got an apology from Amanda, which is pretty sad and extremely unfortunate.

The night she confessed was a couple of hours after her boyfriend admitted he didn't know where she was the night of the murder.Just thought Id add that tiny detail she doesn't mention..He broke her alibi and they called her in from the waiting room. He has never changed that story hence he never took the stand. Her 54 hours interrogation over 5 days is extremely questionable as is everything about this case.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

Raffaele didn't "admit" anything. Under an illegal interrogation where he was denied a lawyer (as found by both an Italian SC and the ECHR) and threatened, he became confused between the events of the night of the murder and the night before. He even asked for a calendar so he could see what day of the week it was and check Amanda's work schedule, but they refused him one. The times he then said she left and came back were identical to her actions the night before the murder. Those times were verified by witnesses. They didn't call her in from the waiting room then to interrogate her. She was already being interrogated before he 'broke her alibi'. This is all available from the testimonies of the police. He most certainly has changed his story since then! He says she was with him all night and has for years...long before they were even first acquitted in 2011. He didn't take the stand as was his right and which most lawyers recommend to their clients. Getting confused under relentless questioning can make even innocent people look guilty. As for the 54 hours of interrogation, the hours are documented in her first appeal. It's available online.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

Whether she did a cartwheel (and it was allegedly one, not plural) is up for debate. The police woman who says she did a cartwheel is Rita Ficarra...the same one who denies she ever smacked Knox on the back of the head. The same one who gives a very different description of that same interrogation. Ficarra sued Knox for slander along with the other police and the prosecutor, Mignini. Ficarra , Mignini and the others lost that slander suit. Knox says that she was stretching by doing some yoga exercises while waiting alone for Sollecito. A passing policeman notice and commented to her that she was very limber and asked her what else she could do. Knox says she did the splits, not a cartwheel, which makes more sense if you’re demonstrating how limber you are. But even if she did do a cartwheel, how is that evidence of murder?

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

@@petersmith2522 What? Kercher's blood was not found on any of Knox's clothing. I don't know where you got that misinformation. Odd behavior is not evidence of murder. And why is doing some stretching odd behavior? This is Knox's explanation: "I’d been sitting hunched over a long time. I touched my toes, flexed my quads, extended my arms overhead. He said, “You seem really flexible.” I replied, “I used to do a lot of yoga.” He said, “Can you show me? What else can you do?” I took a few steps While I was on the floor, legs splayed, the elevator doors opened. Rita Ficarra, the cop who had reprimanded Raffaele and me about kissing the day before, stepped out. “What are you doing?” she demanded, her voice full of contempt. I stood up and returned to my chair. “Waiting,” I said. The silver-haired officer said, “I was just asking Amanda some questions.” Ficarra said, “If that’s the case, we need to put it on the record.” Knox, Amanda. Waiting to Be Heard (p. 109).

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

@@petersmith2522 No, it did not. Maybe you're remembering them talking about Kercher's aspiration blood on her own bra which helped determine if she was still alive or not at the time of the sexual assault. I can tell you with 100% confidence that no blood of Kercher was found on Knox's bra or on any of her clothing at all. If that were true, it would have been entered by the prosecution as evidence; it was not. Go back and watch it again.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

@@petersmith2522 Please do watch it again.

Psychologists "Gaslighting is bad" Police "But how do we solve crimes then?"

@johnscan9928

2 жыл бұрын

ThTs brilliant 🤣

@lenehan06

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, police are allowed to lie to get confessions. You think it's bad, but remember all people committing crimes lie when caught. At least 99 percent of them do. You wouldn't think it was so bad if police lied to get a confession of your mom's murderer.

@johnscan9928

2 жыл бұрын

@@lenehan06 good point I suppose it’s down to where do you stand morally with breaking/bending the rules

@treaclebuns

2 жыл бұрын

Evidence.

I've never cared about this story when it happened now I want to look at the case only coz of all the profesional detectives in the comments

@simonbaribeau4853

2 жыл бұрын

Most people in comments are absolute morons though

@dirtydangler

2 жыл бұрын

@@simonbaribeau4853 like u

@epicstark990

2 жыл бұрын

😂 seriously….

@chrisgullett4332

2 жыл бұрын

@@simonbaribeau4853 Why because they have a differing opinion? I think she is guilty. I have always thought she was involved, and I have the freedom to have that opinion without you getting angered. I'd bet my last dollar she participated in the murder.

@MrCococda

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisgullett4332 no, not because difference of opinion. Because lack of critical thought, empirical evidence, and expertise.

It's an incredible story of media concocting something to sell papers and have no shame in perpetuating these lies. I can't imagine how Amanda came thru this ordeal. It must be very scary to be accused of something so horrible and to know that you had absolutely nothing to do with it. Awful.

@mytrip6991

Жыл бұрын

Nick Pisa, one of the most prolific tabloid reporters during the Kercher case, even admitted that fact checking the reports took a back seat to getting them in first and getting paid for them. He even wrote up one report on the Hellmann appeal verdict BEFORE it have even come down complete with a "GUILTY!" headline and "quotes" and "reactions"....which never happened. The Daily Mail published it and then quickly had to take it down when the verdict was for acquittal. That is how honest most of the media was.

@mytrip6991

Жыл бұрын

@The hand Troll. Buh-bye.

@mytrip6991

Жыл бұрын

@The hand And 2009 wants your misinformation back.

@mytrip6991

Жыл бұрын

@The hand And Meredith's DNA alone is found on the floor in that same room (sample #177). Mixed DNA is common in shared households and each donor doesn't have to leave their DNA at the same time. It can become mixed at the time of collection when one was deposited on top of another or next to it. Your DNA would be found mixed with whomever you share your home with, too. I suggest you read up on it.

@mytrip6991

Жыл бұрын

@The Hand Your ignorance of how mixed DNA works is revealed every time you make that claim. There is no evidence that anyone, much less Knox, planted that DNA or even brought it in. It's just as likely that Filomena brought it in on the bottom of her shoes or socks or Meredith brought it in herself.

I remember when that was in the news. Italian press called her "the angle with the ice eyes". If you look at her you know why.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah...the Italian media did nothing to shape the public's negative view of Knox with such rhetoric. And influence the jury members who are allowed to read , watch, and discuss whatever they want DURING the trial.

one of the most interesting podcasts I have heard in a long time. Great Stuff Joe.

@aceman4929

2 жыл бұрын

How many Joe's are there?

@jimparsons4312

2 жыл бұрын

He needs more content like this!!!!! I’m kinda bored with some of his more recent guests.

@tomsavoury

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimparsons4312 yeah I kind of get bored with the MMA fighters to be honest but he gets some amazing guests

@connsaunders9600

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimparsons4312 Just how many cold blooded murderers are there walking around free ?

@emoke150

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Very eyeopening and inspiring.

One of the first cases I learned about that was just solid "The media don't care what the truth is, if it bleeds it leads" Easy to see how we've gotten here when journalistic integrity is completely butchered

@yung-tuwei2284

2 жыл бұрын

Yup

@reallyhappenings5597

2 жыл бұрын

That's not what the saying means.

@reallyhappenings5597

2 жыл бұрын

It just means that violence always gets (and should get) top headlines, nothing dishonest about that. Nothing to do with journalistic integrity.

@mrj3217

2 жыл бұрын

Media is dead. Today we need to pass the actual truth out selfs we have the power Joe Rogan showed us all how.

@TheRedRaven_

2 жыл бұрын

The only weapon that will never fall to technology is propaganda. It’s actually much easier to control the herd these days considering everyone has a small computer in their possession 24/7. All one needs to do is look at the Trump coverage from 2016 to now. It’s absolutely absurd the lengths MSM/Social media goes to twist, gaslight and manipulate.

my intuition tells me she’s guilty

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

Intuition? Yeah...and my intuition tells me that some people should never sit on a jury.

@TheHaratashi

2 жыл бұрын

I'll go by the evidence, or in this case the lack of evidence, which obviously shows she's innocent.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheHaratashi Evidence? When we have body language, our 'guts', and her eyes? What are you? A traditionalist? 😁

@Phelps-1247

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheHaratashi cap

@kapple654

Жыл бұрын

@@mytrip6991 ha ha xx

Her personality is very unlikeable and cold. I believe she knows something and never describes her relationship with Rudy here. 4 years in prison = 4 million dollar book contract.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

What relationship? She served him a drink once or twice as part of her job and spent a brief amount of time in the same apartment with him along with Meredith and the boys who lived there. There is no testimony that they even spoke to each other then except for a brief introduction. Eight+ years physical, mental, financial ordeal running up millions of dollars in debt = more than 4 million dollar book contract.

@lesgrossman1274

2 жыл бұрын

Yes very unlikable and cold indeed. It tries so hard but it is all so much cringe its embarrassing. It now has purple hair like a vampire.

@CurtBombS

2 жыл бұрын

@@lesgrossman1274 Is this yoda? Is this mf having issues with having hair?

@lesgrossman1274

2 жыл бұрын

@@CurtBombS LOL! :D Hilarious! Yes it is balding and turning grey. LOL! :D

@CurtBombS

2 жыл бұрын

@@lesgrossman1274 ok, that’s fine

Joe is Low-key interrogating her

@jibril2473

2 жыл бұрын

That’s VladTV’s job 🤣

@viralbuthow000

2 жыл бұрын

Who doesn't he do that with?

@zacharyfindlay-maddox171

2 жыл бұрын

Joe knows she did it.

@amaturearcadia

2 жыл бұрын

How mad would everyone be If he didnt

@dahliafiend

2 жыл бұрын

@@jibril2473 ….ok.

I’m waiting for Pingtrip’s edition of this, it’s going to be hilarious

@ciara8294

2 жыл бұрын

LookUp Joe Rogan gets mad at Alex Jones It’s hilarious! 😡 😂 😆

Where can I find the whole interview ?

@TheWchurchill4pm

2 жыл бұрын

Spotify

Les Grossman claims : "People need to remember that #amandaknox is a convicted felon for putting #patricklumumba in jail. She'll always be a second-class citizen." In the US, Knox is not a convicted felon as the US does not recognize demation as a criminal offense but as a civil torte. The ECHR ruled in 2019 that Knox's conviction was 'unfair' due to Italy violating her rights to a lawyer and to an unbiased interpreter during her interrogation. They ordered Italy to pay Knox 18,400 euros which Italy has done. They also directed Italy to file and Action Plan on how they will rectify her "unfair" conviction. The ECHR is still awaiting this Action Plan.

I think she did it.

@ClaytonWillisMusic

2 жыл бұрын

Why

@selkoa8384

2 жыл бұрын

100%

@ophanimangel3143

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine if I think you did something incriminating and led a hound of media and corrupt justice system to convince that you are. I bet you’d believe in it too.

This girl is completely innocent or a master manipulator.

@Jarnarsab

2 жыл бұрын

She Guilty

@Sideler74

2 жыл бұрын

@@Contact_Info The prosecutor said: "She cleaned up her own DNA & left the other guys (killer) there". #idiot

@brucegelman5582

2 жыл бұрын

Everyones suspicious of everyone now.Idiot

@alexinico9608

2 жыл бұрын

the second one

@MyStager

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexinico9608 You can't see DNA, so how could she clean it up?

Just read some of the comments below, some people still believe she's guilty despite the lack of evidence against her, and the fact that the Italian supreme court complete exonerated her. Some people refuse to accept facts. Dummies.

@donatta1857

2 жыл бұрын

If she was non White, non American, she'll be sitting in jail right now. This woman lied and sent an innocent Black Man to jail. Her pr team has done an incredible job to portray her as some type of victim and people like you are buying it.

@mikehaynes1769

2 жыл бұрын

@@donatta1857 If she were a non white, non American she wouldn't have been framed by the prosecution in the first place. The testimony that sent her employer to jail was coerced by the prosecution, that's part of the story of wrongful doing on THEIR part, not hers. The man who went to jail for the murder had his dna all over, on, and inside the victim, and he had a violent past. He was guilty of murder by himself. And I'm not buying any PR, I'm basing my judgement on the FACTS.

@OnlyInItalyVideos

2 жыл бұрын

@@donatta1857 The black man she sent to jail for a few days was her boss at the pub she happily worked at as a waitress. She was coerced into implicating him because (get ready for this) the Perugian police HATED the guy long before Amanda set foot in Italy because he ran a pub that really annoyed the locals. So, the cops thought, "2 birds, one stone". Guede who raped and killed the student (evidence all over the place) did just 13 years of his 16 year sentence. He's already out. But the courts wanted to give 26 year sentences to Amanda and her then boyfriend and they were NEVER at the murder scene. Don't buy into anything you read about this case. Italy's judicial system has done far worse and it's always getting reprimanded and fined by the highest EU courts.

We need JRE back on KZread

@X3MAntics

2 жыл бұрын

Why, so YT can censor the hell out of it?

@jaimeweezer6260

2 жыл бұрын

X3MA right .. what we really need is more places where uncensored conversations can take place

@X3MAntics

2 жыл бұрын

​@@LordBruuh ​ No. lol You new here? They've had so many issues with YT, from demonetization, copyright claims, and straight up taking down certain episodes because "reasons." Some old JRE eps were controversial. Like Rogan and plenty of his friends has said countless ridiculous things, and some are incredibly incriminating. It was a different time. A lot of those were clipped so you can find it yourself. Joe himself agreed to take it down to avoid useless heat. It was his decision. Spotify didn't just give him an ultimatum. They've an actual contract. Whereas in YT, Joe has no say in the matter. Big difference.

@dashiit1748

2 жыл бұрын

LookUp Joe Rogan gets mad at Alex Jones It’s hilarious! 😡 😂 😆

@backseatsamurai

2 жыл бұрын

@@LordBruuh no they havent.

never forget Brendan Dassey confessed to murder so he could watch Wrestlemania

@Jack-sh6xr

2 жыл бұрын

I grew up 20 mins from where that happened, used to see Avery and his wild man beard on the tv in the background every morning before grade school and had no idea what it was about. So weird being older and watching it and finding out what it all was

@campy3888

2 жыл бұрын

I mean it's Wrestlemania...

@johnbull1568

2 жыл бұрын

The whole thing stinks. They convicted Brendan on an entirely different set of circumstances than Steven, for the same murder. Anyone who thinks Making a Murderer is a whodunnit murder mystery is missing the point entirely.

@crowbar9566

2 жыл бұрын

Well then he did it

@Tom-qp6oh

2 жыл бұрын

He wanted to PLAY wrestlemania on his Playstation.

I'm no expert, and i'm coming into this cold so to speak, but there's a lot here that just doesnt add up for me. The majority of what she says seems accurate/truthful but many things dont seem right about the details and specifics of the evening of the incident (and her inability to "remember" what happened or her continued reference to the "lack of evidence" of her presence). My guess is she was either high or implicit in some way.

@81elpedro

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you I've benn saying this for years!! She was under the influence of a substance and did it! When this case came up there was no question that she was part of the murder!!! She's an ice cold psychopath!!

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

She had been smoking weed with her boyfriend the night of the murder. Weed was very, very common among the students there. Everyone who lived in that cottage, including Meredith, smoked it. There was no evidence placing her in the room where Kercher was killed: no DNA, no fingerprints, no bloody shoe or footprints...all of which were found belonging to Guede. Why would she be complicit in murdering a roommate she had known less than 2 months with a man she had only briefly met a couple times? She had served him a drink at the bar she worked at and he had tagged along to the apartment below for an hour or two when he ran into Knox, Kercher and the boys who lived in the lower apartment. He didn't even talk to her there as he was talking to the boys about liking her. There were no phone calls between them according to the phone records and no one had ever seen them together except on those two occasions. She had no motive to kill Kercher. The prosecution kept coming up with new motives from a satanic ritual sacrifice to jealousy, to fighting over house keeping, to joining in out of sheer evil, to theft. None of them ever stuck because there was no evidence supporting any of them.

@fomofud9479

2 жыл бұрын

@@81elpedro you really have to be a special type of stupid to think that she was involved when all the evidence shows that she had nothing to do with it. Thank fk your feelings aren't used in court cases because everyone would be fked

@myview5840

2 жыл бұрын

She didn't help herself with that smug look pic taken just after the crime. Her eyes gave her away. She was involved, maybe not the murder, but she was aware it was going on.

@fomofud9479

2 жыл бұрын

@@myview5840 and you got all of that from a look on her face, no proof, no facts ..... just a look on her face. Oh dear, you really can't make this shit up. You really are a special kind of stupid

She did it, you lemmings. She has a million dollar PR campaign behind her. Ffs.

@mytrip6991

Жыл бұрын

Then explain why not a trace of Knox is found in Kercher's bedroom. Go on, explain that, FFS.

@mytrip6991

Жыл бұрын

Your refusal to address the fact that not a single trace of Knox was found in Kercher's bedroom and attempt to redirect is duly noted. Also noted: your failure to acknowledge that only FIVE samples were taken in Romanelli's room while 160 were taken in Kercher's room.

@mytrip6991

Жыл бұрын

How does a PR group affect the forensic evidence in a trial? Did it remove all traces of Knox's and Sollecito's invisible DNA and invisible fingerprints or their bloody foot/shoe prints?

@mytrip6991

Жыл бұрын

@The hand Yes, we've gone over it and you continue to be intellectually dishonest. You dishonestly try to equate not finding a trace of Guede in Filomena's room WHERE NO STRUGGLE TOOK PLACE and where ONLY 5 SAMPLES WERE TAKEN to a room where allegedly 3 PEOPLE VIOLENTLY ASSAULTED AND HELD DOWN A FOURTH PERSON AND WHERE 160 SAMPLES WERE TAKEN. Again, you fail to mention that TWO forensic experts not paid by either the defense or the prosecution found the LCN DNA trace of Sollecito on one tiny hook to be the product of contamination by a third party due to the videotaped failure of the police scientific officers to collect the bra clasp until 6 weeks later after numerous people were in and out of that room and where objects had been tossed around AND where Stefanoni is taped touching that exact tiny bra hook with a visibly dirty and admittedly unchanged glove. How do you account for the DNA of at least 2 other men on that same tiny hook? Are you going to claim two other men touched that bra hook? WHERE are Sollecito's bloody shoe prints in Kercher's room? Where are his fingerprints? NOWHERE. Do you want to claim that he cleaned up all his other invisible DNA and fingerprints and only HIS bloody shoe prints? If so, I have a bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in buying. There is ZERO evidence either Knox or Sollecito left her lamp in Kercher's bedroom. Since Knox had NO OTHER SOURCE OF ARTIFICIAL LIGHT in her bedroom other than that lamp, logic says one of them would have noticed she had no light in her own bedroom during the multiple hours of darkness between the murder and dawn. Or do you think they just fumbled around in the dark? Use your brain.

JCS needs to break this whole thing down

@RizoSupernova

2 жыл бұрын

Totally!

@alabama.worley

2 жыл бұрын

Break what down? He informs on interrogation techniques and light psychology of the same.

@NxDoyle

2 жыл бұрын

Why? Why do you put so much stock in murder porn masquerading as clinical analysis?

@Uvalacrosse10

2 жыл бұрын

Brother!

@sputniksweetheart5187

2 жыл бұрын

@@NxDoyle he doesn’t exclusively talk about murder cases, nor does he discuss the pathology. He studies mainly the interrogation…

Perfect point when he says that they double down when they are shown to be wrong. Case in point Richard Jewel and the Atlanta bombing.

@TheWchurchill4pm

2 жыл бұрын

@xman559 I just don’t understand how people whose job it is to uncover the truth can hold on so firmly to a discredited hypothesis. Is it just ego, or are they afraid admitting they were wrong would hurt their careers?

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWchurchill4pm Yes...to both.

@TheGodlessGuitarist

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWchurchill4pm It's about time that society start introducing consequences for such belligerent incompetence.

@rottierumbles9451

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget in Italy you're Guilty until Proven Innocent , so the stakes are a lot higher and you have no freedom you are stuck in Jail till your trial, they can hold you as long as they want.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

@@rottierumbles9451 In Italy they can hold you in jail without formally bringing charges for up to one year. In the US, depending on the state, they have 48-72 hours to bring charges or they must let you go.

Do you know the worst part of all of this? Nobody can even remember the name of the victim who was raped and murdered. All of a sudden Amanda Knox is now the victim. She still knew about it and didn't tell the full truth to the police.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

You mean Meredith Kercher? You know, there can be more than one victim in a crime: the victim of the actual crime and the person/people wrongfully imprisoned and vilified for years for something they never did. People who have to deal with being insulted, called horrible names including 'psychopath', 'slut', and 'narcissist and who have to deal with every other consequence that results from being branded a killer for the rest of their lives. People who are judged by ignorant people who know virtually nothing about the actual facts of the case except for what they read in tabloids and on KZread. Meredith was a victim of Rudy Guede and Knox and Sollecito who were his victims as well. She had nothing to do with the murder.

@DisenfranchisedLiberal

Жыл бұрын

I can dispute that. The victim was Meredith Kercher. So, at least one person knows. Honestly, if you're going to blame someone for "no one" knowing the victim's name, blame the media and the prosecutor. They were the ones who sensationalized and rhapsodized over Amanda Knox.

Finally got her story straight

I bet Amanda never thought she’d be discussing jujitsu 😅 Joe on the other hand 🤷🏻‍♂️

@e3IZrZ

2 жыл бұрын

@Fax WTF is that link bro?

@kylerittenhouse6521

2 жыл бұрын

I can’t stop watching Seven Hunnid on KZread, he a real n*gga

@aquarianfirehorse667

2 жыл бұрын

@@e3IZrZ the link showing that he is a taliban member

@AirDwindler402

2 жыл бұрын

@@e3IZrZ lol don't click it. It's spam. He's liking his own comments 🤣🤣🤣

@Patrik1st

2 жыл бұрын

Do you think they......rolled?😏

R.I.P. Meredith

1:23 "There wasn't A LOT of... obviously, there wasn't any evidence". Still a prolific liar 14 year's later, as well as a convicted felon precisely due to her penchant for deception.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

She isn't a convicted felon in the US and that calunnia conviction will be annulled once Italy follows through with the ECHR judgement. You explain how only Guede left multiple forensic evidence of himself in that room and Knox left ZERO. "Italy's top criminal court has scathingly faulted prosecutors for presenting a flawed and hastily constructed case against Amanda Knox and her former Italian boyfriend, saying Monday it threw out their convictions for the 2007 murder of her British roommate in part because there was no proof they were in the bedroom where the woman was fatally stabbed." "It wrote there was an "absolute lack of biological traces" of Knox, an American, or of co-defendant Raffaele Sollecito in the room or on the victim's body. It slammed the quality of the prosecution's case from the start. The path of the case took was "objectively wavering, whose oscillations are ... the result also of stunning weakness or investigative bouts of amnesia and of blameworthy omissions of investigative activity," the court wrote. Had the investigation not been so shaky, "in all probability" the defendants' guilt or innocence could have been determined from the earliest stages, the panel said."

@alabama.worley

2 жыл бұрын

@@mytrip6991 No, she's a convicted felon in the country she served three years of prison time for attempting to frame an innocent man - the same country she was twice found guilty of sexual homicide in. The Calunnia conviction still stands. Keep waiting.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

@@alabama.worley That would have been the police who decided she met up with Lumumba because they believed the 7 woolen fibers that the coroner had collected from her genital area were hairs. That is exactly what was listed on their sample report: sample obtained: hairs and then the result: all wool fibers. So, they already suspected a black man was involved. And guess who had a gray wool cap? Guede. I bet you thought Knox was going to lose her ECHR case too. She didn't. Italy has already acknowledged the 2019 ruling and paid her what they were ordered to: $21,000. Now Italy has to submit an 'Action Plan' which explains how the applicant will be restored to her condition before the violations (the “individual measures”) and explain how the state will prevent such violations in the future (the “general measures”). The Action Plan is sent to the Council of Europe’s Committee of Ministers (CoM), which supervises respondent states in their obligations to follow the final judgments of the ECHR. Italy is extremely slow at this...one of the worst in Europe because they have so many judgements against them. About the only way they can "restore" Knox to her pre-interrogation status is to annul/vacate the calunnia conviction. They cannot use her interrogation statements against her now as the ECHR ruled Italy had violated her rights during that interrogation. The last conviction is going the way of the murder conviction. I love how you always mention she was convicted TWICE but BOTH those were ANNULLED TWICE.

@alabama.worley

2 жыл бұрын

@@mytrip6991 kzread.info/dash/bejne/dp-i2saBopmap84.html

@alabama.worley

2 жыл бұрын

@@mytrip6991 Your comment is an incoherent, rambling mess, per usual. I won't be reading any further gibberish of yours, so refrain from harassing me.

New legal opinion here in New York is that Knox-related fraud may be a criminal enterprise which can incur prison time in US.

@TheWchurchill4pm

Жыл бұрын

@MikeHunt - Which legal firm has produced this opinion?

I wish Meredith Kercher wasn't a background detail to this story.

@kikifletcher3087

2 жыл бұрын

Right?! 🙁

@MagicianNoriginal

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this comment 🙏💜

@animula6908

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a different story, and it’s her families place to tell that. There’s no way a person who knew her only a couple weeks can be expected to do her justice.

@idrisyasin7614

2 жыл бұрын

She is guilty to me....

@idrisyasin7614

2 жыл бұрын

@Paul sansonetti super guilty saved by us 🇺🇸 powerful diplomatic efforts...

I miss the days when I could watch joe rogan on youtube. Now I just listen on spotify. I know I can watch on spotify, but that's now how I use that app. I used to just stumble upon Joe's podcasts here and randomly find one interesting in the moment and wind up watching for 2 or 3 hours.

@louskunt9798

2 жыл бұрын

The good ol days!

He has always denied Meredith’s 2007 murder - but plans to mention her former roommate, Amanda Knox, in his book.

@TheWchurchill4pm

2 жыл бұрын

I’m actually looking forward to reading the book. I don’t expect to believe any of it. But I will certainly read it.

@lesgrossman1274

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWchurchill4pm That's OK, your opinion is not needed.

@OnlyInItalyVideos

2 жыл бұрын

@@lesgrossman1274 Funny...your hair said the same thing when it ditched your scalp.

Wow!! I'm glad to see her now that she has fully grown. In the past she seemed to have no confidence and was so immature. Now, she is so articulate and possesses so much confidence.

@TheWchurchill4pm

2 жыл бұрын

She’s gonna be a wonderful mother.

@mateuszmazurek7991

2 жыл бұрын

it's a shame that Meredith did not have a chance to grow up

@bjornsundberg1947

2 жыл бұрын

Yes Peter Rutkowski, Amanda has become so eloquent and outspoken since she was on drugs together with that creepy boyfriend of hers, named Rafael Sollecito. You can just as well listen to Kate McCann in her first interviews after Madeleine "disappearance" and compare them to how she speaks and writes today. All society has to do in order to exonerate a psychopath, who has committed a crime, is to give him/her more and more time on social or MSM-media, as it will help him/her plenty of time to dupe whoever bothers to listen. Why in the first place, do such people feel the need to write a book in order to persuade the public about their innocence????

@ev_hc01

Жыл бұрын

@@TheWchurchill4pm strange thing to say

@TheWchurchill4pm

Жыл бұрын

@evie - since posting that, I met Amanda and we have become friends. I’ve met her husband and their daughter. When you see the way little Eureka looks at Amanda, you know she is being loved. I can’t believe someone who is capable of committing murder, then lying about it for years, can show a child that much love.

The probability that we are listening to a cold hearted murderer is not 0%

@holdenrobbins852

2 жыл бұрын

"Good thing it wasn't me." Not a response of a sociopath at all.

@hankhill7827

2 жыл бұрын

💯

@alexnutcasio936

2 жыл бұрын

Then what is it??

@leonardpriestley6822

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexnutcasio936 50/50

One of the best interview in JRE. 3 hours just flew by.

@ontherunjg

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully she had to turn in knives at the front door.

@HuiChyr

2 жыл бұрын

@@ontherunjg No worries. Joe got bigger knives and skill to use 'em.

@shonebx

2 жыл бұрын

It sounds like it was a terrible interview. Did he ask any questions around why she was the main suspect: her diary, behaviour in the police when they took her, insensitive comments witnesses spoke about? I don't see any of it being asked here

@jwood2415

2 жыл бұрын

@@shonebx because this is just 17min out of 3 hours 🤦🏽‍♂️lmaooo duh

@HuiChyr

2 жыл бұрын

@@shonebx I think Joe did ask some of the questions. You shld watch it again. However, I'm more interested to know Amanda as a person than anything else in this interview. And she projected herself as a well centered person. I like her personality.

On Nov. 6, Knox gave the police a written statement wherein she describes the interrogation. There is no reason to think that Knox knew what police tactics are used to obtain confessions, specifically those associated with coerced-internalized false confessions. Yet her memorial clearly describes exactly those tactics: 'Coerced-internalized false confessions' are those in which an innocent person-anxious, sleep-deprived, confused, and subjected to a highly suggestive interrogation that often includes the presentation of false evidence-actually comes to believe that he or she committed the crime.” Statements taken from Knox’s ‘first memoriale’ (1 M) written and given to police just hours after the interrogation ended: ANXIOUS: “experiencing worry, unease, or nervousness, typically about an imminent event or something with an uncertain outcome:” One can safely assume anyone being interrogated by the police about a murder…or any crime…would be ‘anxious’ regardless of guilt or innocence. SLEEP-DEPRIVED 1) “I want to make clear that I’m very doubtful of the verity of my statements because they were made under the pressures of stress, shock and extreme exhaustion.” (1 M) 2) Aida Colantone, interpreter present on Nov. 4: “I understood that this girl was truly fatigued, exhausted, she was tired because I practically found her, she was draped on a seat with her head reclined toward the wall, white in the face, with her eyes closed, white, I was very struck by her pallor and I understood that this girl was in bad shape. [Transcript March 13, 2007 (page 88-89)] 3) Off. Rita Ficarra, on Nov. 5 at beginning of interrogation” “The girl continued to talk and said that she was fed up with the fact that she was recalled multiple times by the police and that she was simply tired.” [Transcript February 28, 2009] The night of Nov. 4, Knox was up until at least 3:30 AM. [email sent home at 3:24 AM.] CONFUSED: 1) “In my mind there are things I remember and things that are confused.” 2) “However, it was under this pressure and after many hours of confusion that my mind came up with these answers” 3) “I'm very confused at this time.” 4) “ At first I was scared, offended, and confused. 5) “ Please don't yell at me because it only makes me more confused,” 6) “However, I admit that this period of time is rather strange, because I'm not quite sure.” 7) “These things I'm not sure about” 8) “But I've said this many times so as to make myself clear: these things seem unreal to me, like a dream, and I am unsure if they are real things that happened or are just dreams my mind has made to try to answer the questions in my head and the questions I am being asked. But the truth is, I'm unsure about the truth and here's why:” [First memorial] The one thing that is clear in this memorial is her confusion and uncertainty. HIGHLY SUGGESTIVE INTERROGATION: 1) “Not only was I told I would be arrested and put in jail for 30 years, but I was also hit in the head WHEN I DIDN’T REMEMBER A FACT CORRECTLY.” (1 M) Note the use of ‘correctly’. IOW: when she didn’t agree with what the police were telling her were the ‘facts’ such as she met and took Lumumba to the cottage. 2) Off. Rita Ficarra on believing Knox was meeting Lumumba that night: “we asked who this Patrick was, and this seemed to us an appointment, see you later, certainly, in response to another message.” “This seemed to us an appointment, we’ll see each other later, sure, in response to the other. [Transcript February 28, 2009] 3) “A text message was found to have been sent at 8:35PM of November 1st by KNOX’s number 3484673590 to 3387195723, that of her co-defendant Patrick, in which she wrote “Ci vediamo dopo” [“See you later” or lit: “We’ll see each other after”] thus confirming that in the following hours KNOX would find herself with Patrick in the apartment where the victim was. [Decree for Arrest November 6, 2007] 4) Anna Donnino, interpreter during interrogation: “Question: So in the ambit of your role in which you were mediator you then considered it worthwhile to recount to Amanda even your personal experience relating to the leg fracture etc. Anna Donnino: Yes.” [Transcript March 13, 2009] 5) From the ECHR judgement on Knox vs. Italy: “[Knox] complained that she had not been provided with a professional or independent interpreter during her police interviews of 6 November 2007 and that the police employee who assisted her had played a role of “mediator”, encouraging her to imagine hypothetical scenarios.” “Lastly, the Court explained that it could not overlook the ambiguity of the role played by the interpreter, who had been acting more as a “mediator”, even though she was not required to go beyond her interpreting duties.” 6) Knox spontaneous statement during trial in response to Aida Colantone’s testimony (March 19, 2009): [Colantone told me that] “probably I didn't remember well because I was traumatised. So I should try to remember something else". Why would Donnino need to mention her own traumatic amnesia if not to suggest to Knox that her inability to remember what happened was due to her also having traumatic amnesia? PRESENTATION OF FALSE EVIDENCE: 1) “I have been told there is hard evidence saying that I was at the place of the murder of my friend when it happened.” 2) “I know that Raffaele has placed evidence against me, saying I left him during the night of Meredith's murder,” 3) “The police have told me that they have hard evidence that proves I was in the house, my house, at the time of Meredith's murder. I don't know what this proof is” The police did not believe Sollecito's (coerced) account was false evidence, but Amanda was being told that her boyfriend said she'd gone out the night of the murder which she knew either had to be a lie or that she really did have amnesia and just couldn't remember. It made her doubt her own memory and that the police were right: she had gone out.

Amanda Knox is as innocent as OJ Simpson

@mytrip6991

Жыл бұрын

She's as innocent as Lindy Chamberlain.

When you were in prison did you ever try DMT?

@tablebbq

2 жыл бұрын

That's hilarious 😂

@latle111

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely hilarious. If u get it then you're a long term JRE viewer

@CC-mr5xq

2 жыл бұрын

I watched the whole thing; Joe actually offered her psychedelic mushrooms. Like, right there.

this episode was phenomenal

you're full of it knox

@mytrip6991

Жыл бұрын

You know what wasn't 'full of it'? Any evidence of Knox. No DNA, no fingerprints, no bloody shoe prints. What it was 'full' of was Guede's DNA in multiple places, bloody fingerprint, and several bloody shoe prints. Explain that.

@HCproductionsss

Жыл бұрын

@@mytrip6991 wait but who killed her friend?

@mytrip6991

Жыл бұрын

@@HCproductionsss Rudy Guede who was convicted and sentenced to 16 years in prison and was released early in November 2021.

I was a 22 year old exchange student the year before this happened. I completely understand at the time how Amanda was caught up in the language and cultural barriers. I was like a child totally at the whims of the people around me- literally everything you think is true is shifted in a foreign country. I was in so many stupid situations thinking back because I had gone from this very sheltered American life to a completely different reality. I think far too many Americans overestimate how you would act in the face of the language and cultural barriers surrounding this crime. I feel for her and for the true victim- poor Meredith and her family.

@TheWchurchill4pm

2 жыл бұрын

It shouldn’t be surprising that Italians found her behavior strange. Just consider how we as Americans have assumptions about people from foreign countries. While there was much human error involved in what happened to her, I think we also have to consider the cultural factors. Specifically, the universal human tendency not to challenge our individual assumptions.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

​@@TheWchurchill4pm I've often wondered if Amanda may be on the autism spectrum. I am certainly not saying she is because, unlike many here I don't diagnose someone when I have no professional training, but she has a lot of behaviors that remind me of a person who is mildly autistic. I have a family member in her late 20's who does not emote facially as Amanda sometimes doesn't, can act slightly "off" in situations... especially when she stressed,.and can sometimes say things that seem out of the 'norm'. Yet she is extremely smart and kind, especially to anyone she thinks is being bullied or an underdog. Amanda reminds me very much of her sometimes.

See this Joe Rogan at his best. Interesting podcast a guest we have mostly forgotten about. This is why I listen.

@dimas.2381

2 жыл бұрын

This is just like old Joe Rogan on KZread

@anthonyarcanumsanctumregnu9551

2 жыл бұрын

True!

@sawyerrice3244

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, together they're killing it!

@austinsmith2808

2 жыл бұрын

Theo did it first

@MarchelloMastrayani

2 жыл бұрын

🔪🔪🔪

Everyone should know that taking you someplace for your own protection is always jail.

@realMaverickBuckley

2 жыл бұрын

I cant believe she berating her murder victim... on a Podcast!!

@Earthad23

2 жыл бұрын

@@realMaverickBuckley so she did it because of sex ? You people are dense

@wcw7813

2 жыл бұрын

LookUp Joe Rogan gets mad at Alex Jones It’s hilarious! 😡 😂 😆

@MichaelPhillips-jw4bj

2 жыл бұрын

@@realMaverickBuckley people claimed they were friends and ''why didn't she give a single care meredith died?? she was was your friend and your making out with your boyfriend all happy!'' This was a very big part of the case and people always bring up how cold she is. so she's probably trying to be clear.. It seems she probably disliked meredith. They weren't real friends and she just didn't care at all. Too busy sucking face with her new boy toy alphonso de credenza or w/e,,,,

@BruhBruh-sb5xd

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/mZpsy6WskZbgnMo.html 🗽👑 King of New York 2022 is going to be amazing. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

She tried to pin the murder on Patrick Lumumba. Had 2 weeks to set it right,but didn't. Guilty!

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

She did in her two written statement she gave to the police on Nov. 6 and Nov. 7. They just chose to ignore them...until they could no longer when no forensics of Lumumba in the cottage came back but Guede's handprint in Kercher's blood was identified from his immigration record. And when enough people had placed him in his bar that night including a Swiss teacher.

@Hangar.18

2 жыл бұрын

@@mytrip6991 she wrote only 1 statement. In that statement she did not retract the accusation,but questioned the reliability thereof. The accusation did stand,but in case of proof of Lumumba's innocence,she weakened the severity of her slander. Well played!

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hangar.18 Nope. There was a second written statement on Nov. 7: Knox gave the second written statement (aka second memoriale) to prison Vice-commmandante, Raffaele Argiro, on Nov. 7 and he gave it to the police on Nov. 8 per his testimony on July 7, 2009 (Transcript pg.73) From Knox's June 12, 2009 testimony: "L Ghirga: All right Amanda, okay. Thank you. So you went to prison and spent the night. When did you write the second memorial? A Knox: So in prison I again asked for paper, because that's how I'm used to expressing myself, the way I succeed best, also to organize my thoughts, I needed to write them down. I needed to reorganize all my thoughts, because at that point I was still confused, I still had these images in my memory that finally I understood were a mixture of real images in my memory from other days mixed with imagination. So I needed those pieces of paper, so I could take everything and put it in order." This is the pertinent part of the second memoriale: "This is what happened and I could swear by it. I’m sorry I didn’t remember before and I’m sorry I said I could have been at the house when it happened. I said these things because I was confused and scared. I didn’t lie when I said I thought the killer was Patrick. I was very stressed at the time and I really did think he was the murderer. But now I remember that I can’t know who the murderer was because I didn’t return back to the house. I know the police will not be happy about this, but it’s the truth."

@Hangar.18

2 жыл бұрын

@@mytrip6991 instead of remorse for pinning it on an innocent man,she is purely interested in removing herself as a witness at the crime scene. Which would lead her on a path to jail. The police saw through it and therefor the original signed statement was upheld. The real retraction would be: I lied,I tried to pin murder on an innocent man.

@Hangar.18

2 жыл бұрын

@@mytrip6991 she had her head in the noose. She was the one who allegedly met up with Patrick. She was the one who was witness to the murder and did nothing. It's a tiny step from witness to acomplice from there.

As an American she should’ve asked for the American consulate she has the right to do that

@TheWchurchill4pm

2 жыл бұрын

Her parents kept advising her to do so on the phone, before her arrest.

@davesfoodfinds2087

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWchurchill4pm The question is why didn’t she go to the American consulate in Italy

@OnlyInItalyVideos

2 жыл бұрын

@@davesfoodfinds2087 Her family did...when the situation got blown way out of proportion.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

@@davesfoodfinds2087 Because she had no idea they suspected HER of the murder until they'd thrown her in prison. She thought she was just being helpful in finding Meredith's murderer.

Her case was when I realized that journalistic integrity was dead. Our American press had her tried and convicted, without doing any research, just repeating what the Italian press wrote. And I believed them. Then I read an article about the case in Rolling Stone magazine and it blew the case wide open for me. It was then that I saw how her story was manipulated, and that she was innocent.

@MP-tj5xv

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, search for "One of the Most Shameful Episodes In Journalistic History"

Read "the Monster of Florence" Mignini was the same prosecuter in Amanda's case. Mignini prosecuted 20 different innocent people ,(all acquitted) alot of them spent years in prison over Mignini's false allegations. He was also charged and convicted after that case for abuse of office.

@sagittariusa1848

2 жыл бұрын

That poor office 😪

@drwerwolfenstein7124

2 жыл бұрын

Yes most of these posters are joe Biden voters. They have no clue who she is or what happened. Still don't understand why the British girls family are still blaming Amanda. DNA don't lie.

@360.Tapestry

2 жыл бұрын

@@drwerwolfenstein7124 wtf lmao it's a trumpster so we know he eats his own poop. makes sense, right? such a bizarre and irrational connection you have with reality

@HH-el8vp

2 жыл бұрын

@@drwerwolfenstein7124 There was no DNA evidence.

@jeremyknight8314

2 жыл бұрын

Mnn

I think she is guilty as hell.

@mytrip6991

Жыл бұрын

Based on what evidence?

She does not come across genuine imho

@MikeHunt-ir5rc

2 жыл бұрын

That's right. It is because Amanda Knox is a convicted liar who did four years in prison.

I get a weird vibe from her she could be 100% innocent but the words she chooses and the way she talks/looks while explaining certain things is off I wouldn’t be surprised if she was complicit in the murder.

@SkittyP123

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think her choosing her words carefully shows she’s complicit. I think it’s more that she wants to ensure that she’s not misrepresenting herself, which is smart, all things considering.

@barrybergisch1

2 жыл бұрын

she is just akward

@dman644

2 жыл бұрын

I think it was Rudy and her and her boyfriend all together

@andrea3v

2 жыл бұрын

She's being replaying the story in her head for years now. There's definitely more to that. But no one will know I'm afraid.

@mephistopheles9644

2 жыл бұрын

What's strange is that the supposed break, the rock is smaller than the hole on the window, suggesting it was staged. Now, why would someone fake their own break-in? Furthermore, the black dude knew Meredith. I think Amanda staged the break-in after the fact. Also, body language and how she keeps latching on to what joe is saying is a lying technique. She is super sus either way.

Joe on UFC : " I know a killer when I see one " Also Joe :

@bobloerakker7010

2 жыл бұрын

OJ is going to come on 1 day. After joe gets a larger desk.

@brianjacobs1283

2 жыл бұрын

So Joe has Arya Stark's ability???

@coldhands2802

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianjacobs1283 Ugh that was so cringe

@brianjacobs1283

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dark_AbsoI it was the worst quote in the entire show which helped cap off the worst ending in TV history. It kinda just sticks with you.

She did it. She did it. She did it.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

Based on what evidence? Based on what evidence? Based on what evidence?

@ChristopherGray00

2 жыл бұрын

@@mytrip6991 Complete cognitive dissonance, people will believe in what they feel regardless of facts, it's sad that people like this can vote but it's the reality.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

​@@ChristopherGray00 As the saying goes: "It's easier to fool people than for people to admit they've been fooled." Even when confronted with indisputable evidence they are wrong, they'd rather continue being wrong than admit they are. It reveals a very insecure ego.

@mytrip6991

Жыл бұрын

@Crista Ferrari-Girault COERCED, COERCED, COERCED. RETRACTED, RETRACTED, RETRACTED. NO EVIDENCE OF HER IN KERCHERS ROOM! NO EVIDENCE OF HER IN KERCHERS ROOM. NO EVIDENCE OF HER IN KERCHERS ROOM.

@Matsoni85

Жыл бұрын

No cuts on her body, no DNA evidence etc and Rudy was obviously guilty

Really Interesting

Fuck it bring Casey Anthony on next joe

@ontherunjg

2 жыл бұрын

Just make sure no children are nearby.

@fenerbahceqwe3756

2 жыл бұрын

lmaoooo would be the best episode ever 😭

@cupcake8867

2 жыл бұрын

Casey is actually guilty, though.

@garzie88

2 жыл бұрын

@@cupcake8867 not in the laws eyes

@michellebelle5327

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I had 3 ads interrupt your podcast on Spotify.

@user-pz5ur7kg5l

2 жыл бұрын

Go complain to the manager

@neoarmour

2 жыл бұрын

buy a subscription its like 10 dollars

@AM2K2

2 жыл бұрын

oh how tragic, did you survive scotty boy?

@TheWchurchill4pm

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not fair that we live in a society with both telemarketing AND social media ads. We may as well have one, just because life isn’t supposed to be fair. But having BOTH is a socially-constructed injustice.

@SpinachMeh

2 жыл бұрын

Awww babes xx

"Out of nowhere, you're the suspect" 😁😁 JR clearly did 0 research on her case there...

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

So what evidence convinces you of her and Sollecito's guilt?

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

@J Colatorti I don't think Mignini was or is a misogynist: he was just a prosecutor who had a very arrogant and inflated sense of his own abilities as a "Sherlock Holmes". It led him to decide prematurely who were the guilty parties, along with the police whose investigation he directed. Once committed to that view, he and the police put on their guilt blinders. As the SC said, they had 'investigative amnesia'; they discounted anything that didn't support that belief as if it didn't exist.

@mytrip6991

2 жыл бұрын

Don't want to answer my question?

from jump I never bought into media's story when all this was going down. i kept thinking what are they talking about she doesn't seem like a cold, calculating femme-fatale

Knox’s story shows that media wants a good story more than they want the truth

@TonyVega123

2 жыл бұрын

Well said. I was certain she was guilty until I went through all the evidence. What also hurt her is the way she looks. A pretty girl who looks like a know it all..GUILTY!!!

@Tesmond256

2 жыл бұрын

@@TonyVega123 pretty sure it was entirely based on her kissing her boyfriend while the police were there

@mytruthslays1303

2 жыл бұрын

Yet, people still listen......hence Joe Biden's presidency. Sheepeople everywhere.

@Tesmond256

2 жыл бұрын

@hulazeb not sure you understood my statement. I believe that the police were suspicious of her because of her behaviour while the police were investigating the scene. It seems that they felt the behaviour was wrong and based on that she must have been involved. There did not seem to be anything else presented to suggest she was actively involved.

@mattm8932

2 жыл бұрын

Well that “good story” you’re referring to was from the mouths of cops 🐷

RIP Meredith Kercher. Joe Rogan should interview her family for balance.

@Shiny101

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, Joe is just a quasi mainstream media member now. He wouldn't try to be fair. That Spotify money visibly changed him. Fucking sad

@tech1238

2 жыл бұрын

He won’t. Joe has a list of “Celebrities” that are doing new projects and need promotion. She’s either got a book or a Netflix show coming out soon.

@wing8ian

2 жыл бұрын

@@Shiny101 just going for the views yeah… I jumped from JRE to Lex as soon as Joe went to Spotify. He had all the money anyway so why sell out…?

@gordo3697

2 жыл бұрын

What would her family know about facts to the case the families view is emotional only emotions arent facts if you wanted the other sides story that lays witu the prosecutor my take anyways

@terminal-velocity111

2 жыл бұрын

One agrees