You can argue they don't deserve anything else, but it's to society's benefit if inmates stop looking at themselves as trash at some point during their sentence. Once they're out, we don't want them doing what they did before. That's why it's important we spend the resources necessary to get inmates on the right track, that is part of being a civilized society. Reducing the rate at which inmates return to prison saves money and prevents crime

@AquaGalaxyArt

7 жыл бұрын

Agreed :) Its also economic.

@emmn.4307

7 жыл бұрын

Except you're dealing with individuals who had a choice and chose wrong, consistently. Helping them on the right track does not mean it gives them morals. Sure, it helps some and they're put on pedestals to prove the "new way" works, but it doesn't overall. Most of them are accustomed to getting things the easy way and making them work for a living will only be hampered by the notion that the prison is not a place to visit a 2nd time.

@AquaGalaxyArt

7 жыл бұрын

emm man, some people really don't have a "choice" nobody really chooses to be born in a bad life, with a bad family, a bad situation, and a bad environment. To some extent, (although you're right, not all) many people are just unlucky and their bad morals are the unfortunate byproducts. But leaving them in jail to rot is (strictly speaking from a non moral perspective) not a good usage of resources. Take Norway for an example. They have an efficient rehabilitation system and their re-conviction chances are substantially smaller than that of the US. So making jail seem like a scary scary place doesn't always work. Many criminals believe it or not, have the capacity to see a better way is shown.

@ourseon2577

7 жыл бұрын

Even sociologie proves that when you are poor you make more bad choice because you are in bad condition to choose, to think about it, stress, pressure, sometime despair. No matter what, if you accept the idea that people(and yourself by extent) can change you cannot ignore the fact that bad rehabilitation is the most useful and effective part of your strategie to make things work.

@fatb0yKyle

6 жыл бұрын

-Emm N. You assume that all offenders act rationally. This is not true in many cases. A couple of examples: -Man walks in on his wife in bed with another man. Loses his temper and kills the man in a crime of passion. Certainly not excusable, but it might be fair to say that he wasn't considering the implications. Tougher sentencing probably would not affect this, and the individual might not be at all likely to commit further crime. -Someone who is groomed as a child and due to this is addicted to drugs as they enter adulthood. They start breaking into peoples houses and stealing things in order to raise money to feed their habbit. They might not be thinking rationally due to the physical effects or drugs or withdrawals, and again they might not be at all deterred by prison because they're more concerned about their addiction. If prison does not rehabilitate or reform them, then the likelihood of them re offending would be high. 'Criminals' are not simply people without morals, as convenient as it might be to demonise them. The vast majority of the human race feels empathy and that (if nothing else) tends to install a certain level of morality.

"Our humanity depends on everyone's humanity. Each of us is more than the worst thing we've ever done. If somebody tells a lie, they're not just a liar. If somebody takes something that doesn't belong to them, they're not just a thief. Even if you kill someone, you're not just a killer. And because of that there's this basic human dignity that must be respected by law. Despite the fact that it is so dramatic and so beautiful and so inspiring and so stimulating, we will ultimately not be judged by our technology, we won't be judged by our design, we won't be judged by our intellect and reason. Ultimately, you judge the character of a society, not by how they treat their rich and the powerful and the privileged, but by how they treat the poor, the condemned, the incarcerated." Bryan Stevenson's 2012 _We need to talk about an injustice_ TED Talk.

a lot of these comments aren't focusing on the actual discussion, that being reform of the criminal justice system. The goal is to make society safer, that can not be done (and is not being done) when the focus of the prison is "revenge", those who serve their sentence leave unreformed and are likely to repeat an offense. This conversation is not about shortening sentences, its about changing the prison system to rehabilitate criminals and therefore benefit society. If your response is "do the cringe, do the time" we are having two different conversations and your input is useless to the progression of the conversation.

@alisonjacobs2867

2 жыл бұрын

There are no conversations. you wouldn’t need to rehabilitate criminals if they didn’t do the crime in the first place. Victims and survivors wouldn’t be suffering if criminals knew how to respect the law in the first place.

@waterloowitnobody6861

Жыл бұрын

Just like your whole speel was a waste of my time. Your bootsy and that did nothing for the cause. You dont live the way you should. You just talk and talk and talk

@thereligion4169

6 ай бұрын

@@alisonjacobs2867except you know it’s not that simple. You don’t “respect the law” whatever you’ve done wrong, littering, skipping tolls, pirating movies or shows, using VPNs to view Netflix in another countries. You do not practice what you preach, at all, you would not be prepared to face your time and outraged all the same. You are either young or dangerously myopic.

Great speech. Big up Trinidad Big up Brooklyn 🇹🇹

The man have grown into a human being, whatever he was before he no longer is, he have discovered salvation through human compassion and accepted it as a principle. May he grow greater still and preach it to troubled souls.

I appreciate this contribution to my experience, Marlon you remain a "Community Healer"

fascinating person, great talk!

Thanks !!!

All these people saying "DON'T DO THE CRIME THAN!" Well Innocent people go to prison too.

I am huge criminal justice reform advocate because I made some mistakes when I was in my late teens until 22. Nothing like what this guy ever came close to doing. However, this guy should have got more than ten years in my estimation.

@juandomingoperon7965

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I can get behind reform for weed arrests, but murderers shouldn't be apart of the group that reform would help.

How about the humans who are attacked robbed or murdered?

Man I have so many issues with the criminal justice reform system. Rehabilitation > locking them up until they die. Props and respect to this guy for the progress he's made in his lifestyle.

bravo God bless him

Amen

I would like your contact information. Two and a half years ago God put a young man on my heart who is facing criminal charges right now. I am hoping you can provide help. I have a deep respect you. You have great couage.

Here’s my take on the matter. Yes, prisons need to get better and improve their practices, and help inmates and people who have committed crimes get back into society to be a productive member of it. But you also have to recognize that if you commit a crime, you can’t argue that you don’t deserve prison. Far too often, I see people saying that the law is unfair and how their life was ruined because of prison, and not at all taking responsibility for their actions that got them in there in the first place. I agree, prison is not good with human rights and helping former prisoners get back into the working force, but that doesn’t mean you can blame all your problems on it. You have to take responsibility for your actions, and understand that your choices can have a massive and everlasting effect on your life.

Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself. Leo Tolstoy. Good job, man.

It has been shown that punishment doesn't deter crime nearly as well as rehabilitation. If your justice system and prison system only contributes to increased crime rates and has exceptional levels of re offense, what is the point? We need to do whats best for society. Not exacting revenge and breaking already broken people. If a criminal is rehabilitated, we dont have to pay for courts and jails every time that person re offends, we save money in the process. If a criminal is rehabilitated, they can again contribute to society. If a criminal is rehabilitated it is good for their families, and helps deter those kids from going down similar paths. If a criminal is rehabilitated they wont hurt someone again, the crime rate will drop, and society will be safer. Rehabilitation is what is best for society and criminals. Criminals are people too and many of them CAN be saved. Not all, but some. And if we can save just one innocent life by rehabilitating a criminal, it is worth it.

@AvgJane19

7 жыл бұрын

Sam Girardin excellent point

@9CrystalDragon2

6 жыл бұрын

Sam Girardin rehabilitation may be a better way to reform society but it also creates a sense of injustice. To end up living in a world where those who hurt people even kill others get help while those who abide the law struggle to live will create upheaval and social vengeance. For this reason punishment I believe also plays a part in justice as well as reform. It is a natural fealing that people want others to pay for the crimes they commit. Finding a balance where victims are satisfied that justice has been done while allowing criminals to build their self of steam to reform is difficult if nothing else.

@freeyadomeent.6371

5 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks

I really wanted to see this conference, but I understand very little, I would like to see subtitles in Spanish and not only in English.

You are a human I give you that.

@jaeyounglee5410

7 жыл бұрын

olli tuovinen i am a mushroom

I hear you

I'm all for second chances and the idea that our system should focus on rehabilitation rather than disposal, but robbery that turned into murder??? I just can't see how redemption will ever be possible.

A society is gaged on how it chooses to treat it's criminals. As an American and also as a former addict and criminal I gotta ask, can we not do better? Every person deserves second chances.

Crime and prison is a very tough topic to talk about so first I commend Marlon for talking about it. For people who think prison and punishment is the best way to deal with crime, ask yourself why? why is putting the criminals in one place where their only interaction is with other criminals a good thing? America has one of the largest reincarceration rates in the world. Part of that is because the criminals have nowhere to go once they're released, so they have to turn back to crime to live. Places like Norway, where they help prepare the criminals for the world have some of the lowest incarceration rates. Think about why.

wow

About 9/10 comments on this video are some version of "just don't do the crime," so I think you've all truly missed the point of this video. I would invite those of you who think this way to try and imagine the world more complexly, including really listening to people with stories like this. Because you're right, crime is AWFUL. But treating criminals as if they're not human is also awful, because it causes irreparable damage to them, their families, our society as a whole, and just perpetuates more crime in the end. Justice must prevail, but it must ALWAYS be tempered with compassion. Otherwise we'll never move past the "eye for an eye" cavemen mentality of revenge.

@kcesca

6 жыл бұрын

You know what else causes irreparable damage? Putting a bullet through somebodies heads at point range. Where was the tempered compassion for the people he killed in cold blood?

❤️

🖤

Personal responsibility.

@Lovelessvalentine66

4 жыл бұрын

Is what this guy took when he reformed his life and became a better person. In being reformed and working to get the message out as to why his crime happens and working to find a better crime prevention solution so it doesn't happen to others is the best form of personal responsibility in this situation.

Stoicism is inspirational :)

To everyone who say criminals deserve to be treated as they treat others: You forget that the criminals are often only behaving the way they do because of the way they were treated and what they learned growing up. Criminals rarely have an opportunity to have what most people take for granted. So why is it fair that they serve time for what they did, but they never got justice for what happened to them, to make them that way? This man mentioned being raped at gun point, having easy access to guns etc. as turning points in his life that supported him to become the kind of person to commit a crime. Did he ever get justice for those events? Doubt it. I don't support violence or criminal activity at all, all I wanted to say really is that justice is not black and white. Also, i get he was old enough to make his own decisions, and hence why he deserved jail time. But I'm personally very glad that this man has turned his life around and is helping others, despite everything he has been through. He is a person just like all of us, like it or not. Shows there is still hope for humanity after all.

@janco333

6 жыл бұрын

Two people are still dead.

love the message but the format deserves better

Sorry for all of these "ted is online for science" people. Ted is there to give people a voice to grow better as a species. Science is part of it, but not all of it.

@LuxiBelle

7 жыл бұрын

We should make sure murderers feel human. Betters the whole species.

@vorlonagent

7 жыл бұрын

When TED goes social, and societal, and it does that a lot, it almost always becomes another bland sock puppet for the dominant thinking in globalism circles and the political Left. It ceases to have a unique and interesting perspective and instead settles for pushing an agenda. This talk isn't the best example of that. Yesterdays talk about the refugee crisis as a test of character is much clearer.

@PizzaDwight

6 жыл бұрын

John Trauger How is it pushing an agenda if views from both parties are present? Seems like you just want to bash the left.

One of the truest Ted talk ever! I am so touched

@kcesca

6 жыл бұрын

I'm happy you're touched. I'm sure the couple he killed would have liked the opportunity to touch their friends and family again as well.

@NobleSven

6 жыл бұрын

TheGogobooty I understand your point. Killing is the worst act one can commit and I truly condemn it. This man can never undo what he did and he will have to life with such pain and guilt forever. However, to see him rehabilitated proves that prisons may not only punish but also teach, which is beautiful. Do not offend me nor be cynical about what I am saying. I was just happy (:

im not human at all

You're making the assumption that all criminals can be redeemed. Some can, certainly and some should never see the light of day.

@alphasword5541

7 жыл бұрын

It depends on what they did, but regardless, the purpose of prison should be rehabilitation, to make those that can be redeemed into good people. Some people steal for their families, others due to addiction to a drug. In fact, drug related crimes (as in, people getting locked away for using them) are a perfect example of prison doing more harm than good.

@Jcdlf7

7 жыл бұрын

it creates thousands of cheap labor jobs for companies and thousands of jobs of people taking care of the prisoners. We physically cant afford these jobs to leave.

@kd1s

7 жыл бұрын

The problem with law enforcement is that while over time crime rates of gone down, and not related to better policing. Instead crime started declining when they banned ethyl lead in gasoline. Yeah, up until the mid 1970's we were pumping a known neuro-toxin into the air. And there are a couple other things I see in the policing - first reclassify drugs from criminal acts to public health issues. Second legalize marijuana for recreational use and tax it like you do cigarettes or alcohol. Then with the rise of autonomous vehicles less need for traffic police, less need for drug police. In my community a few years ago we had 600 police officers. Now we are down to 400 and still declining. Why? They de-emphasized marijuana enforcement. And get this - every public safety vehicle carriers the antidote to heroin overdoses. In addition to that we need to stop discriminating based on color and start discriminating based on content of character. That would truly change the country.

@cookienibz2578

7 жыл бұрын

George the hacker soooo because it increase profits for corporations & creates jobs we should continue on this destructive path?

@kinsmed

7 жыл бұрын

The Scandinavian countries disagree with you. See if we or they have lower recidivism rates.

لم يتم ترجمة للعربية

Racial disparities are real all racism is real and systemic racism is real

A "non-violent drug offender" is a lie promoted by super-predators, et al.

While he wants to start a discussion about an alternative methods that would be more productive and more ethical a lot people in the comments don't get further than 'criminals should get punished because the did something bad'.

@renatoyutub

4 жыл бұрын

LMAO naive little boy, tell that to the family of victims murdered or teens that OD bc of drugs

Amazing TED talk

His "reasons" are NOTHING but bullshit excuses.

sounds like a good argument, so is he saying that because he possibly murdered someone, we should still treat him as human despite our core programming that tells us other wise, from a logical perspective, i see his point, but i have deep prejudiced against people who hurt others. however usually someone who commits a crime is themselves suffering, so perhaps he has a very good point and im too close minded to accept him, at least not over the internet. correct me if i completely missed the point because i wasnt sure what his point was. also race was not relevant in this argument which is good

@goonENHEIM

7 жыл бұрын

Shinobi Jack Well said & thank you for sharing those honest thoughts.

@LimmingKenny

7 жыл бұрын

You can argue they don't deserve anything else, but it's to the benefit for society if inmates can stop looking at themselves as trash at some point during their sentence. Once they're out, we don't want them doing what they did before. That's why it's important we spend the resources necessary to get inmates on the right track, that is part of being a civilized society. Reducing the rate at which inmates return to prison saves money and prevents crime

@Synox89

7 жыл бұрын

LimmingKenny depends on the country. in the US we have private prisons.

@jenius00

7 жыл бұрын

The two points I think he made are: 1) While ultimately responsible for his actions and deserving of justice, he was also a product of his environment and that it is relevant both in how we address the issues of those environments and the crime born from them. 2) That forever branding a criminal makes a criminal forever, and perhaps if not deserving of redemption, pragmatically society is better as a whole if we allow room for rehabilitation and inclusion for those who have chosen to cause harm but wish to change and be a force for good. I shared a similar rejection of him which remains. And others have pointed out there will certainly be those who simply can't or won't reform themselves. And certainly there are crimes it seems absurdly unrealistic to ask society to forgive, although were every perpetrator of such crimes were able and willing to reform I think it would still make sense for society to do so. But reality represents neither extreme of none being reformable nor all being reformable. I wouldn't venture a guess as to what fraction are under what conditions at what costs to society. But I still believe society would be best served by encouraging and facilitating reform in anyone who through our system of justice has paid their debt to society under the law and will be released back in to society. That of course does not mean that they believe they have earned the trust of society, or that society really owes them anything at all. There is a need to never let them shed the past, but shackling them to such a degree that they can't move forward as the (hopefully better) person they are now does not serve the interests of society in my opinion, although it can help placate the sense of injustice that many would feel, and there is real value in that as well. Particularly for the direct and indirect victims, I would never ask them to forgive or stop demanding the full justice they think they are entitled to, although I may debate them on what is truly just. Certainly for some I can see how they could never see justice where their loved one has lost their life while the perpetrator still has theirs, there freedom, and a chance at happiness. Debt to society be damned, what about the debt to them. I think we all can sympathize with being in such a position ourselves. How can you ask or expect that kind of forgiveness from anyone? The only thing I can say is that some people do find it within themselves, usually during the tragedy in to hope that some kind of good and better world can come from it. Should it happen to me, we'll see what kind of person I turn out to be, but I hope I would be the kind of person who can find that kind of perspective and forgiveness.

@WadeEdaw

7 жыл бұрын

props for not using a typical "HURR DURR MUH LIBERALS N SJW" argument

U mention those convicted of non violent drug offense are given chances. They are branded for life too. They don't get chances either. The criminal justices system is rotten, cold, and unforgiving to the core

Very moving and amazing talk!

Only a very small number of people commit violent crime because they enjoy it. The rest are in terrible situations with no hope of escape, and no others options available.

A murderer cannot be redeemed. A human life is priceless. The choice to change for the better is definitely a great thing but a life taken cannot be made up for by any amount of speeches or letters.

@Lovelessvalentine66

4 жыл бұрын

So what else can he do then? From what I have seen he has done his time worked hard to reform and is working to prevent the same thing from happening again? What would you suggest? Should we become killers as well and execute all prisoners? Should we leave him to rot in a cell that takes money away from programs that could fix the issues of poverty? Yes a human life is gone but pretty sure the only thing we can do is try to be better and prevent it from happening again.

did he said what kind of criminal justice reform he wants?

@Lovelessvalentine66

4 жыл бұрын

He talked about things like the broken windows theory and the effects of being young in a criminal environment and growing up in a area where criminality is a social norm. And I think he talked about the looking glass theory a bit here and how it all needs to be addressed with a humane approach

it's "relevance" not "relevancy."

So even TED is social justice now, for pete's sake. that's it for my over 3 year subscription.

There is a reason why a person that committed a violent crime is viewed as less human: Cause that person ignored the humanity of his victim. If you murder somebody you forfeit your human rights. The US criminal system needs reforming, but one of the reasons why is because too many crimes are committed in poor communities with a lot of drugs and weapons. cops that get send there are in danger, they too fear for their life because they did nothing wrong and still people shoot at them. many of those cops are not adequately prepared for the situations simply cause the police lacks the resources to do so. And then a criminal that doesn't follow their orders only makes it worse. get people to recognise that by breaking the law they create all sorts of problems for a whole punch of people - mostly for them self and their loved ones.

Ask this guy...what punishment should be given to the murderers of his friends...😂😂😂😂😂

Somebody that took away somebody else's safety human rights should not be treated any differently than the way he treated that other person.

@pasty609

7 жыл бұрын

But people can change. What you did in the past doesn't matter if you don't do it for the rest of your life. Of course there's the argument that they're more likely to commit a crime that they've done before, but that just means that our methods of reforming criminals aren't effective.

@RmnGnzlz

7 жыл бұрын

Pasty Tie Did the people that got murdered got those opportunities too?

@tjr3145

6 жыл бұрын

But Justice is required for a just society

@pasty609

6 жыл бұрын

tjr3145 No, law enforcement is required. They are different. Justice implies there is a clear 'right' and 'wrong' while law enforcement is there to make sure that the laws we have to protect people are followed. Punishments for crimes should exist but they should be to dissuade people from committing crimes.

@tjr3145

6 жыл бұрын

Actually some very unjust societies have some very active law enforcement. Gestapo and what not. But true justice is necessary for a just society. Punishments need to fit the crime. All other things fall in place once that truth is held.

Five of them robbed a coffee shop, two people were killed... now I'm supposed to feel and understand what??? Now he's all better, and we're supposed clap...??

My boy filling up the suit like Ryan Reynolds damn!

I clicked cuz he looked like Chris Rock in the thumbnail

First... also this comment is pretty random but... people are different and no ones needs to be treated like trash... we are people... we are the same... we have a mind, a soul, bones, and a heart, skin , blood. We are humans When I mean the same I mean we are the same species but people are different in their way

@StudioArrayMusic

7 жыл бұрын

Lovemojirun Animal jam ya, it's too bad that there are humans that exhibit antisocial behavior, thereby, it is required that they be treated differently, so that they don't ruin everything for everyone else.

@Jcdlf7

7 жыл бұрын

we have a mind who disagrees, eugenics is a human idea to exterminate other humans with certain characteristics. like bad genes or economic belief or religious beliefs. we are human and humans are animals who have met maslos hierarchy of needs. take any of those away and we return to being animals.

@lovemojirunanimaljam1129

7 жыл бұрын

Clementine? I put people are different and it was a random comment

@lovemojirunanimaljam1129

7 жыл бұрын

Clementine? And I was talking about humans we are the same species humans

@lovemojirunanimaljam1129

7 жыл бұрын

Clementine? Both we are the same species but everyone is different is their own way

Even thugs are still humans.

I hear Peterson say 'I just wanted to be relevant" and complaints about gun availability and other social ills that befall the black community and what I hear behind it is, 'It's not my fault". I don't trust "It's not my fault" because it says he isn't responsible for his actions. And if he isn't, he's free to make the same mistakes again if his life takes a rough enough turn and he still won't be responsible for his actions. Peterson is not garbage, he most certainly is human, Along with the compassion for being human comes a requirement that he own what he does.

It is great that you have forgiven yourself for your part in killing those people in 1999. I wonder if their families are all happy go lucky about it. Why should you get your life back?

we're all individually in control of our destinies. we either take control or don't, but it's our choice. if life isn't going the way you want then figure out what's holding things back and change it. find a role model to emulate. immerse yourself in personal development and motivational information. case closed.

@lawnmovver613

7 жыл бұрын

Spoiled kids who don't understand not everyone comes from the same background. Learn to overcome your own elitism before spreading your irrelevant advice. Case Closed.

@lawnmovver613

7 жыл бұрын

@Sourcedrop My reply had nothing to do with how you were or weren't taking control of your life. It's great that you are doing so, but you should understand that in prison it's pretty hard to "find a mentor" and "take control of your life." It is not your message that I criticize, but the context of it.

@sourcedrop7624

7 жыл бұрын

watch the count of monte cristo. it's fiction, yes, but there are tons of people who have transformed themselves like edmond even in prison. read up on survivors of the holocaust. same thing. impossible odds mean nothing when you have strength of will.

@AceofDlamonds

Жыл бұрын

That's incorrect. We are not fully in control of our destinies.

No matter what he looks like, no matter what he has been accused of, he is a very intelligent and well put young man, which is rare very rare today, seeking to give back to community in best way possible by helping others cheers to u, keep it up

People who disliked the video should have really listened to it. that was amazing.

I totally disagree but in my opinion if you murder u need death don't like the punishment don't do the crime.

I hope you learn how to be a loving person.

Pedophiles, rapists and people who have committed atrocities like Josef Fritzl and the like deserve it though. If you're gonna act inhumane you deserve the punishment. You can't really apply this argument to horrible people like that because really I doubt anyone would show sympathy to a man or woman that's shown complete apathy for human lives.

He's come a long way. That was a beautiful TED talk. I salute you Sir.

@shaunpatryck

7 жыл бұрын

Shui Dongliu still a murderer

@shuidongliu97

7 жыл бұрын

Shaun Riley we don't know if he shot anyone maybe he was an accomplice. He seems like a good person today though.

@BeyondTheFlames

7 жыл бұрын

Shui Dongliu what is "good"?

@shuidongliu97

7 жыл бұрын

Christian Wadsworth someone who contributes to society in a positive way. It's easy to condemn a man forever. It's shows character to turn your life around for the better but when you try to better society, help people to not make the mistakes you made then that's commendable.

@shaunpatryck

7 жыл бұрын

Shui Dongliu Why would you take him at his word??? He is garbage, it's clear cut.

Incoming "here the racist comments come" comments

@SHINOBIJACK

7 жыл бұрын

xD

@shaunpatryck

7 жыл бұрын

Timlinguy 😂😂😂😂

@allroundergamin7298

7 жыл бұрын

If only you knew what comment you were above :D

@timy9197

7 жыл бұрын

Looks like someone is 2 steps ahead lol

Is this guy even human? Sure looks like a human. That was a great talk.

Sorry but you don't get to be a hero by standing up and delivering a melodramatic pile of sentimental crap to a room. He's more narcissist than hero.

they don't care

Nice Guy

@kcesca

6 жыл бұрын

Shame about the body count though.

Okay your special. how many don't change and want to be redeemed. so how do you tell. not all want to take the hard road and changed.

am i the only one eho didnt understand anything?

@LuxiBelle

7 жыл бұрын

You probably should forget this talk ever happened. Stay slept.

I understand the sentiment of people saying "stop committing the crime", but in reality that will never stop. If you accept this as a proposition, the question is then what do you do with people who commit the crimes? For the benefit of all of society, you'd rather rehabilitate them because otherwise you will have to deal with the consequences of their future crimes.

4 people were shot and two died... yeah, we drop bombs on suspected terrorists (emphasis on "suspected") who may be preparing to do something bad. To get your day in court and have a second chance at life is a privilege many don't get. It's a bit sickening to see you stand there and tell us how a little girl called you a hero.

I invented KZread social networking the September Eleventh attacks the Boston bombing Pokemon go possible the attack in Brussels the intial one had something to do with hebdo both the images and attack and more recently the Manchester attack and tower block fire I'm insane and welcome the retirement bullet would suggest burning the body as they probably have a look alike or will try to recesatate me.....I can barely think any more and my thoughts are troubled from internal unresolved wounds and external telecommunication and scizophrenic and scizzor studys

"Yeah, name the video like I am a victim"

@colerthanu0

6 жыл бұрын

i mean hes a victim of the system

@juandomingoperon7965

4 жыл бұрын

@@colerthanu0 erm... he kinda murdered people. He isn't a victim, he's the aggressor.

Incoming "Incoming "here the racist comments come" comments" comments.

"How about not doing the crime" Would you rather dispel of someone in an institution in which they're surrounded by other criminals proving to them they have to continue to act hard and tough, people who join gangs for protection in prison- or have them in an environment where you construct them into productive members of society and allow them to redeem themselves from their previous actions??? The point ----------------- Your head

is Ted becoming more and more like buzzfeed or what?

i want subtitles in Spanish

At 20 you are old enough and probably mature enough to know the consequences of your actions. I would say this not only because he's black but because in eyes of law we are all same

@fairguinevere666

7 жыл бұрын

>Because in the eyes of the law we are all the same. Not really, but it's a good ideal situation. But that's a side note. However, how old are you? How much have you changed over the course of your life? I have a relative who was 20-summit, covered in tattoos, slightly criminal activity. They took a while to see the hole they were falling down as it was all they knew to be supportive and helpful outside of their immediate family. (They had hearing issues and were punished for it in school, leading them in a downwards spiral.) They're fantastic now, 20 years later, and far healthier and nicer than they were back then. They also *regret* their actions. Deep, sincere, regret. Is that not the goal of the _justice_ system, instead of a revenge or isolation system?

@emmn.4307

7 жыл бұрын

A good goal, but the person you're talking about has morals, but evident at 20, suppressed, but he has them. The problem is with the majority who do whatever they do without caring, hence lack of morals, which results in the new system failing.

@alexross1997

7 жыл бұрын

If you listened, you would realize he helped commit the crime at the age of 14.....

@kcesca

6 жыл бұрын

14 is still old enough to know that you don't kill people. What about the two people he helped kill? Do they get a second chance? He is human trash. It's right he should be viewed that way.

@alexross1997

6 жыл бұрын

Whataboutism is when you know someone can't form a legit argument. This is what's wrong about humanity. You care more about trying to make society perfect by fighting the symptoms of problems not the cause. Throw everyone in jail for committing a crime and make sure they won't be released b because they're trash. Sooner or later we will all end up incarcerated because we all commit crimes knowingly or unknowingly. We need to focus on rehabilitation and fighting the real problem: society.

Why does all of the 'trauma' experienced in life mean that the criminal justice system needs reform? Seems to me that isn't the problem here. Wasn't it the life trauma that induced the lack of being civilized? In other words, how would a 'reformed' criminal justice system have made any difference in the the choices you made to commit deadly crimes? Criminal justice takes place AFTER the crimes have occurred eh?

This reeks of social justice based on nothing but emotion. Like at 06:00 what exactly are you saying? Is this even english? Your messages are void of any content.

There are no heroes who commit a violent crime on innocent people.

Watch the video before you like/dislike it.

Blaming Trump for a crime he committed 18 years ago. Bahaha

@alexross1997

7 жыл бұрын

detonator he's blaming trump for producing a mentality like yours: laughing and not focusing on trying to change social structures so the crime could not be committed

Stop crying and stand up and take responsibility for your bad decisions and criminal behavior. You are not the victim. The people that died are the victims. You are a "criminal predator".

a lot of these "gangsters" do it because they think its cool, they wanna be "down" in the hood, not because they are poor, its laziness because they dont wanna get a minimum wage job and work thier way up.

White liberal video: " Oh wow how intriguing, so different" "I love this Ted Talk" Black liberal video: *dislikes before watching "Um, can you not" "Your truth makes me uncomfortable"

@paper8nintendo

7 жыл бұрын

Maybe people think serving 10 years for robbery, shooting 4 people, and killing 2 people is a fair sentence.

how about not commiting crimes huh how about that

@pasty609

7 жыл бұрын

People are always changing. The person who committed the crime no longer really exists after enough time has passed. Say you have someone who is a millionaire and used to a rich lifestyle and someone who is homeless and living on the streets. They could be the same person at different points in their life but they are also very different people. We say it's the same person because they share a body but the differences mentally are so large that they might as well be different people. I believe that punishment like prison sentences are there to persuade people from committing crimes, rather than giving criminals 'what they deserve'. It's not about punishing past crimes it's about preventing future ones.

@IAMN0TGAY

7 жыл бұрын

youre too soft on crime

@pasty609

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for trying to persuade me by giving a number of points against my comment. Also, I'm not soft on crime, it shouldn't be encouraged which is why I support the idea of punishing criminals. What I don't support is punishing the criminals for the sake of punishing them. We should have prison sentences to make people think more before committing crimes, not to 'protect others from dangerous people' or 'punish those who are evil'. If someone like a serial killer does repeatedly kill people then they should be seeing medical help as there's obviously something wrong with them, the same going for people who are generally violent. Rather than labeling them as 'bad people' we should see the root of the problem. Are they being raised in certain areas? Do they have similar backgrounds? Can we change or methods of reforming to dissuade them from committing future crimes?

@IAMN0TGAY

7 жыл бұрын

*tips fedora*

@gbiota1

6 жыл бұрын

lol, the people who got murdered "changed" too they "no longer really exists" either. So much empathy when its other peoples children getting murdered.

"waah, I committed a crime and now I had to do my time!"

Here's an idea: Don't commit a crime and you won't be inside of a prison cell.

@job-yw5hm

7 жыл бұрын

also an idea: let's try to make it so that when someone goes into a cell they don't come out likely to commit a crime OR even better, make it so that less people have a reason to commit crimes to begin with. How about that idea?

@fabrizio483

7 жыл бұрын

If one goes into a prison cell and comes out a worse criminal, it's that person's responsibility. There are no reasons that justify someone being a criminal. Your response showcase the Left's complete lack of ability to understand personal responsibility. If you commit a crime, it is your fault an no one else's. And if, when in prison, you become worse, it's your fault as well and you should be back in jail, or better yet, executed for being a complete waste for humanity who's sole purpose in life is to wreak havoc onto law-abiding citizens.

@job-yw5hm

7 жыл бұрын

Funny, I wonder why every-fucking-body calls me part of the Left. I am a right-winger. But oh well. Nevermind the fact that I am economically in favor of lots of capitalism and free market. Doesn't make me not a part of the left, right? Fucking idiots, all of you. As for other things you said. If I lock up someone with the intent to make society safer and that person comes out worse I might want to redo my prisons. Just a thought. If it is someone's own responsibility to be good and you don't have any say in it whatsoever, I wonder why you want a prison to begin with. I feel like it would be more consistant for you to think it is a criminal's own responsibility to not commit a crime after and there is nothing we can, not should do to prevent it. I am from a country that takes jail time pretty seriously and I like it. If we deem you not fit inside society we take you out, permanently. If we think you did something that was against the law, but there is a chance you can still become better, we will help you. Why? Because we don't want to spend the recourses to get you back into prison again. Nor do we want to lose more people because we fucked up. That's the job of the govenrment, to make sure you abide the law to the best of your abilities. Part of that is to make it so you don't feel the need to commit a crime or help you if you aren't sane enough to be responsible. again, you seem to think that it is up to someone on their own to be good (true) and that we can't or shouldn't help them or incite them to become better (stupid). this is very strange to me, as it makes no goddamn sense. Punishments exist to try and make it so you don't commit crimes. Increasing a punishment would also be a way to try and better people, are you against that as well? Or are you just against lowering punishments? Double standard is what I see here. also, "Killing is wrong, so I will kill you" is the most hilarious thing people say sometimes. And you take it to an extreme. You take crimes and say: "yep, this guy is a cartoon villain we can kill without remorse, such good people we are". That's not how humans work you dunce. Humans have motives that drive them and not even fucking Hitler wanted to do something bad. people almost never (I would say never, period) want to just kill and ruin people. The way that you suggest we deal with criminals will incite more criminals to do bad things. I hope you are happy sacrificing all those fucking resources and people trying to get them back in jail.

@fabrizio483

7 жыл бұрын

Well, you sound like a Leftist. "If I lock up someone with the intent to make society safer and that person comes out worse I might want to redo my prisons." Why? Prison is where you go to be punished for a crime, not to learn good manners. "I feel like it would be more consistant for you to think it is a criminal's own responsibility to not commit a crime after" That is my position. "That's the job of the govenrment, to make sure you abide the law to the best of your abilities." No. The government's role is to make sure law and order are in place and to provide very basic institutions. The State is not anybody's baby-sitter. And what do you mean by "to the best of your abilities"? That is to completely remove any agency from a person, to say or imply they have no control over themselves. " Part of that is to make it so you don't feel the need to commit a crime." If you "feel the need" to commit a crime, you belong in jail. "Punishments exist to try and make it so you don't commit crimes." No. They exist to punish an already committed offence. "also, "Killing is wrong, so I will kill you" is the most hilarious thing people say sometimes" My dad was murdered. Feel free to have sympathy for murderers, child molesters, rapists and all sorts of scum. I mean, you are entitled to. The point of the death penalty for certain crimes is to prevent (with 100% success rate) criminals from harming other people. Another good thing about the death penalty is that is saves tax money from being wasted on these scum.

@DjJooze

7 жыл бұрын

Fabrizio they're only inside of a cell in prison for a couple hours. Theyre outside, dropping the soap or working for most of the time

incoming racist comments

@lovemojirunanimaljam1129

7 жыл бұрын

Doctor Jones incoming

@eclipse5393

7 жыл бұрын

incoming defensive race baiter comments

@retiredshitposter1062

7 жыл бұрын

Children's Guide to Racial Discussions Online: Everyone I Don't Agree With Is Racist!

@VaporShock1

7 жыл бұрын

Doctor Jones If hating criminals for killing innocents, apparently I'm racist. it has nothing to do with race and more of the fact that he and his friends killed two people.

@ness6578

7 жыл бұрын

When i say "incoming racist comments" It does not mean that people will come and call this criminal a scum, as criminals often are. It means that people will hate on the person because of his colour and use that to blame on the crime he commited.

Look, i's very simple: Don't be a criminal and you'll avoid prison.

@erricomalatesta2557

7 жыл бұрын

Fabrizio dont get framed.

@jn5534

7 жыл бұрын

By your logic, don't be African American in the U.S. and you'll avoid prison

@Nuke-China

7 жыл бұрын

Memestreamer Inc. By your logic, African American = criminal?

@LughSummerson

7 жыл бұрын

Ricky Jackson was jailed for 39 years and nearly executed before being found innocent.

que the racist comments..

@NotQuiteFirst

7 жыл бұрын

Que?

@Shangori

7 жыл бұрын

Vicks O If you think criminals = black people, I think you are the racist one.