Great video. I really like Kevin's presentation style: detail rich, fast paced, with a bit of big-picture context thrown in.

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Bill!

@ramblerandy2397

Жыл бұрын

So do I

I have an XLT Lightning, really enjoying the series and learning about my truck… makes me love it even more!

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it!

Great video. Honest appraisal of engineering decisions without personal biases bleeding through. Not much of that these days. Thanks.

Love my sr lariat after 3 months and 6500 miles. Thanks for great content!

We have all 10 Lightning Pros we ordered in house now and they are performing beautifully for my business and the frunk has opened up a whole new world with a bed that can just carry products and not tools. Glad to hear you are just as impressed as I am

@chestermartin2356

Жыл бұрын

Cool to hear positives from somebody that actually uses the trucks as intended. The people online shooting negative comments out who will never even use 1 are the worst

Another great video. The guys are growing in confidence and mixing their specialist technical knowledge with effective communication. Again, Munro is to be congratulated for bringing engineering to the masses.

Jordan and Kevin - excellent engineering analysis! You make me appreciate FORD more and more!

Thanks Kevin and Jordan for your detailed and informative discussion of the Lightning body in white. Always appreciate the new insights these guys bring out. .

awesome episode! body-in-white is a super interesting subject and you guys were amazing at tackling it. i’m just a fan. i love cars and manufacturing. you all have an incredible vibe. eye-opening and mesmerizing! thank you so much for doing this incredible work :)

Another great presentation, thank you Kevin and Jordan.

These two guy's make a great team for presentation!

Apart from the presented subject materials your editing crew also do a great editing presentation.

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Great job as always. Thanks for making me smarter.

Thank you Ariat!

I don't post comments. I don't interact online or add my opinion. It's amongst a sea of similar so why bother. But truly guys, I have to commend and appreciate this channel, each of you folks are phenomenal as presenters and most importantly educators. It's been a journey but you folks are the midbest from the midwest.

🤗 THANKS KEVIN ,JORDAN ,ERIC AND THE REST OF THE MUNRO TEAM FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON 👏👏👏💚💚💚

@kkal1183

Жыл бұрын

Turn off the caps

Another great video. Thanks.

Thanks guys

I wonder what you think about Ford changing all the exterior body panels, as the fenders, hood, boxsides, tailgate, front bumper, headlights and taillights are all Lightning specific; which seems like a huge expense and probably most folks won't ever notice the difference.... P.S. I have a Lightning Lariat and it is the best, most impressive vehicle I have ever been in, full stop! I LOVE it

Great video! Thanks!

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

I live in rustville where every 10 year old truck is already rotting out at the wheel wells. I would imagine these aluminum trucks will hold up a lot better long term. I would want one just for that reason alone.

@rkan2

Жыл бұрын

Aluminium is no guarantee of being *hole* free. Rust free yes, but not corrosion free :)

Great info, thanks!

Why is it the only time my wife will watch Munro tear-downs with me is when Kevin and Jordan are presenting? And what does "Hunk Hour" even mean?!? 🤔🤣

Flow-drilling is great, but you didn't mention one reason they use it: since there is no pre-drilled hole, the parts can be assembled by flow-drilling even if they are not really lined up properly. Lining body parts up correctly has never been Ford's strength.

@rkan2

Жыл бұрын

Alignment is also what Sandy himself is always talking about.

I think the Cybertruck will become the Ultimate lifestyle vehicle. However the Lightning will become the ultimate working man's truck. It already is. I love that Ford is staying true to what they do well. Right now it feels like only Tesla and Ford have a cohesive BEV program.

@pstoneking3418

Жыл бұрын

I agree with everything except for the cybertruck, that is if it every actually goes into production. I'm surprised anyone would want a truck that looks like something out of a science fiction movie. I do love science fiction movies, just don't want to drive a truck that looks like it doesn't belong here. I get far too many people coming up to me asking questions about my lightning. I can only imagine a group of people swarming around the cybertruck. I prefer a low profile. Ford did a great job keeping the traditional F150 appearance, I think is great.

@b4804514

Жыл бұрын

@@pstoneking3418 The future is coming. The F 150 has not changed in looks since 1950. I think young people will appreciate the CT style

Great video, and Sweet boots sandy!

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Thank you!

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

It appears that the chief difference between Flow Drill Screw and a self-tapping screw is that the latter needs a pilot hole through all pieces. However, is the FDS removable, or does the plastic deformation of the metal lock the screw permanently in place?

@patreekotime4578

Жыл бұрын

They said it was removeable. My impression was that the heat in the FDS deforms the material more than a self tapping screw would. But that it is not enough heat and pressure to forge weld the screws into place.

@sewasewa6585

Жыл бұрын

They actually said it is removable but more permanent than bolts. Also the flow technology give more and stronger material for the joint at the thread point.

Thanks boys! Good explanation. As for me, Ford has come a long way since the Pinto. Lean design? Long way to go!

Great to see Ford responding constructively to their customers indirectly via production and cost parameters. Long way to go I reckon, but this US company deserves to survive through the EV revolution - simply because they are trying very hard to do so. Few others will if I read the tea leaves correctly.

Good information and very interesting. A suggestion for future tear downs. Set up a time lapse camera on a tripod and take a picture every 5 seconds. It will capture the removal of many items that are difficult to picture in ones mind when you are describing items that have been removed. Great for data archival also.

What a wonderful innovation ,using 100's of pop rivets to hold the cab together.

I've been watching coverage of the F-150 lightning since it was just speculation years ago, and at 4:49 is the FIRST TIME anyone ever mentioned that Ford kept the aluminium design for this new model. If anyone can show me a mention from Munro or any other site of alu for this body, I'll eat my words. It's like everyone was supposed to just assume the material was unchanged, in a model year that's a very radical departure from the past. I bet what happened is Ford stopped playing up the body material as a differentiating advantage, and all the lackey influencers forgot that it was even worth mentioning.

how does recycling and chipping the wrecked truck like the different materials that are sandwhiched throughout

Lighter body, heavy battery - good work Ford.

Just think how better the Lightning could be if the transmission and drive shaft tunnel was eliminated. You would have much more space in the cab.

Great job guys. Shows that Ford did a good job of converting the ICE F150 into the Lightning and by keeping the frame and aluminium body were able to keep costs within limits. I am impressed that the Lightning is 550 lbs lighter than the Rivian. One might expect a blank sheet design would be lighter than a conversion, but not in this case. I look forward to seeing how Tesla’s Cybertruck compares.

@carholic-sz3qv

Жыл бұрын

Lol…. Not only the ford is significantly way bigger than the rivian but it’s also lighter and let’s not forget that ford makes shit tons of different configurations from single cab to double…. They even sell those trucks without bed or just the chassis and powertrain the tesla cybertruck isn’t going to be that flexible.

@carholic-sz3qv

Жыл бұрын

Someone can already very easily convert the ford lightning into an RV, ambulance, utility vehicle…… something the cybertruck unfortunately won’t make possible.

Nice shirt choice today lol

That sealant though :D

@Miata822

Жыл бұрын

Look under the carpet and behind the trim of whatever _you_ drive.

@troyjean9850

Жыл бұрын

😄

I predict that when the all new Lightning debuts in 2025 that Ford will keep this version around. It will be similar to the Classic Ram with a slightly lower price.

Hope they can reduce the number of parts and fasteners to sell it profitably.

Hi do you know where the frunk beep speaker is?

Like almost every other commenter, you keep saying that the F-150 is the highest-volume vehicle in North America... but the Chevrolet Silverado 1500 and GMC Sierra 1500 are just two different trim levels and badging of one vehicle model, which typically about the same volume as the F-150. Combined Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra pickup volume over the whole range (1500 to 3500) is again similar to Ford F-Series pickup volume over the corresponding range (F-150 to F-450). Ford and GM are the leaders in this segment, not just Ford.

Haha… “BUILT FORD TOUGH”😂 WAIT for the cybertruck.

@heathwirt8919

Жыл бұрын

It's only three years late.

@GET2222

Жыл бұрын

@@heathwirt8919 or is it? I could argue FORD is 10+ years late. GM is 20+ years late! TESLA could have sold cybertrucks this year, but would have sold fewer cars. FORD scrambled to make, what, 10k trucks this year if they are lucky? Who the F-cares? When you have 1.75 million preorders you can’t make 250k trucks a year like ford will in maybe 4 years from now. You have to rethink everything to scale as fast as f-ck cause that ls all that matters. GM and FORD can play in their 200k a year sandbox and watch their margins and marketshare erode. You don’t get it. It’s called 4D chess and you are thinking checkers. 😂

@heathwirt8919

Жыл бұрын

@@GET2222 They are all ahead of Tesla in the pickup truck game and they are the best selling vehicles in the US. It took Tesla almost 18 years to turn a profit, GM & Ford will be making profit off their pickup trucks the first year. And Tesla has the absolute worse build quality in the industry while Elon brags about spending the least man hours building the vehicles and proves it with crap quality.

Question? How does the body do say against rust?

Has anyone seen any crash test of this Built Tuff?

Interesting about all the aluminum to lighten the body. GM use to bully ford going to aluminum bed.

@darpompie4354

10 ай бұрын

When you know something is better and you are so far away from being able to copy it, the bully marketing comes out to try and kill it. Luckily Ford had a lot of brand loyalty to counter that, otherwise, we would all be stuck with needlessly heavy steel trucks.

woo woo woo !!!

I like your work guys. And I look forward to when your growth say " hey - maybe we should use animals to show how things are done instead of describing things with your hands drawing air pictures.

Huh, the that's a much thinner gauge of sheet metal than I would've assumed for aluminum. I would've thought it was steel from visual inspection alone, but I am no vehicle expert.

Lots of parts and connecting points. They should have taken a page out of the Tesla book.

@paulchristenson5256

Жыл бұрын

Are you comparing a sedan with a work truck?

@jalexand007

Жыл бұрын

@@paulchristenson5256 Tesla will be doing the same thing with the Cybertruck.

Toyota need’s to learn the lessons Ford is demonstrating here by smart material choices and not reinventing the whole Vehicle from scratch with the associated expense. I believe it’s now time for Toyota to become reliable, Cheap and Compact … if they wish to survive outside of Japan and Western Australia …

How about a two door . It will save weight and cost

@darpompie4354

10 ай бұрын

Because it's a utility vehicle to carry workers and payload (both covered and in the bed). For this segment, it is by far the most chosen configuration. This was Fords best chance at being successful with the transition. I am sure once BEV's are the standard vehicle of choice where the volume of sales makes its worth the manufacturers investment to create off chutes, you will see more configurations.

Kevin kinda looks like a cross between Dash Mihok ("Bunchy" on Ray Donovan) and Nikolaj Coster-Waldau ("Jaime Lannister" on Game of Thrones)

Its interesting to learn the advantages of using same NVH for all monuments regardless of BEV or ICE application. 🤣🤣🤣

1:04 get the frunk out.

@richardnedbalek1968

Жыл бұрын

Put that sound bite on a loop with a vid of various pics of Jordan and a sick track! 🔊🎶

Low center of gravity as trucks like to roll. Hood roof strength

As usual, it's not resulting in lower cost to customers, but rather profit margin for the manufacturer.

Ford did the right move, using an already existing truck platform, speeding up the development process and production, with tooling and supply chains already available. Also plenty of aftermarket accessories to use with the F-150 platform.

@markplott4820

Жыл бұрын

Ford is already outdated w/ a Horse 🐎 & buggy platform, on outdated Suspension, Drivetrain, battery, inverter..... more. FUD motors moves too SLOW, is selling a EV truck that's already outdated. they should have DELETED the body on frame platform on day one. Structural pack & Gigacasting are Superior.

@TennisGvy

Жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 You're invested in Tesla, we get it.

@markplott4820

Жыл бұрын

@@TennisGvy - matters not, I Don't care about TSLA share price, could go to $100/share, I'd still BUY all day. Im HODL for more than 20+ years. what matters to me is TESLA company is the only Auto OEM, that is EXECUTING, producing, delivering, and selling every vehicle they Produce, often w/ only 4 day Global supply. no other car OEM on Earth, is doing that. and NO one else has LEVEL 4 FSD beta. that's 10x better than a Human Driver.

@Voidroamer

Жыл бұрын

The model Y is on the model 3 platform, there is no y platform.. and now many of the M3 parts have made it into S and X as well. I like them redesigning the entire concept of a truck, instead of sticking another shape onto a M3. If you want that, buy one of the many other options flooding the market right now. an f150 on mars, even in silhouette, would look silly

@nonamesnoneed3545

Жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 You must not understand a few key benefits of these platforms, isolated bed from frame via rubber or hydraulic mounts does have its benefits for duty trucks. Also how are you going to mount a service cab on a GIGACAST ? These mount to the frame, think plumber, electrician and other trades people. Energy from load in the bed and also frame while towing being dampened by the system has a ton of benefits, while you can make a body strong enough to handle the load, you be an SUV with a bed. Like the chevy avalanche. There is a reason chevy sold a fraction of avalanches compared to Silverado. When you think about bed replacement and industry specific use of truck, this is the better platform. For weekend users yes you can do unibody or SUV with a bed, something like avalanche. There is a large enough market for all of these but I do hope chevy comes up with a real Silverado EV TRUCK. dzticqmp0at8i.cloudfront.net/user_images2/19043_8741654.jpg

Shame they never made an aluminum Mustang. They did the GT so can't say they can't.

Jagwire? Or Jaguar?

@heathwirt8919

Жыл бұрын

Depends on which side of the Atlantic you're on.

Now boys and girls want new clothes. 👌

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surprised you didn't mention the other huge advantage of the aluminum body and resultant 700# wt. reduction--less battery size/more efficient/cost effective. So, either more range/towing capacity with same size battery as Chevy Silverado/Dodge or less cost for battery. Shouild make them the class of the pickups. (Of course Cybertruck is in a different league all together)

@4literv6

Жыл бұрын

Well said, a full size fully loaded up platinum lightning is 300-400# lighter than a purpose built ev platform design like the rivian r1t.

@carholic-sz3qv

Жыл бұрын

The cybertruck isn’t in a different league it’s just a dumb idea of truck with less practicality and flexibility in use. The ford can very easily be made single cab, and all the other configurations tat ford offers to its ICE trucks. From RV to ambulance to utility vehicles…. The cybertruck isn’t made for that

@brianb-p6586

Жыл бұрын

The aluminum body never saved 700 pounds. In the first year of the F-150 with an aluminum body the truck was about 700 pounds lighter than the equivalent model of the previous year, but there were many changes responsible for that weight savings - the aluminum cab and box were only about half of the reduction.

@mickn7386

Жыл бұрын

@@carholic-sz3qv From my 40 year experience in the construction industry, I would have loved to have a Cybertruck. No maintenance, stainless steel body, 1/5 the energy cost. My foreman would love it. No need to get oil changes every 2,000 miles. No generators to fuel all the time. Great in mud and snow. PERFECT construction vehicle. AND 1,000,000 miles!!

@carholic-sz3qv

Жыл бұрын

@@mickn7386 bulshit!!! And with the crappy towing capabilities with it right!!!! Grow up!!!! No generator and fuel my @zzzz it’s still way Its more flexible than anything batteries powered where you can’t even store extra energy

If Ford can survive the transition to EVs, I'm looking forward to more unique innovations moving away from their traditional F150 structures. Yes, I'm an F150 fan. Not so much their 1st EV version but it was a rush job to get it on the market.

Ford make some really useful vehicles with great practical features. Hopefully they survive the transition to EVs. If they could fire all the useless penny pinching bean counters and let their engineers pick the best parts hopefully they would be able to solve their reliability problems. At least their CEO recognises the problem and is actively trying to solve it.

@brunoheggli2888

Жыл бұрын

Beancounters are importend to!

Kevin Ford GAS F150 is was the highest production vehicle. We still have to see what the EV version does in sales. It is more expensive and there will be competition a lot. Ford has a real reliability problems.

Nice to see a cameo by "Boots Munro", even if it is a commercial

Frankenstein-much

@vidznstuff1

Жыл бұрын

?

9:05 well yeah. It's not a unibody. The car body pretty has good isolation to the chassis. I noticed this immediately with my very first car vs all the body on chassis vehicles I used to drive.

wow this Ford is insane mindblowing!

@markplott4820

Жыл бұрын

what, Exactly is mind-blowing, please Explain.

@brunoheggli2888

Жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820how fast they could bring a pickuptruck ev to the market!How clever they used the existing platform and convert them in a cost sensitiv way to ev!Just watch the video!

@tabbott429

Жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 He hates Tesla so thats his "motive"

@brunoheggli2888

Жыл бұрын

This Ford is so revolutionary and visionary,its changing the way we think about transportation!Its one step for a better future of humanity!I am so frilled that Ford is changing the world!I need that Fords CEO is tweet every day a lot of bullshit!

@markplott4820

Жыл бұрын

@@brunoheggli2888 - FUD motors LACKS vision and INNOVATION. they only make CRAP cars/Trucks in 2022.

I don't really have a good idea of what is steel and what is aluminum. Seems to be an assumption that everybody knows by looking at the video. Was never pointed out specifically what type of metal this or that is made of.

@brianb-p6586

Жыл бұрын

While it was discussed, it wasn't completely clear. It would be interesting if they painted the panels to match he materials, and showed that.... but there are many such illustrations available online if you do a web image search for something like "F-150 body materials".

Well Kevin, welcome to the club. Your intelligent mostly well spoken monologue is well received however, your overuse and unnecessary use of "kind of" was so off the chart I lost count. Please review the video and eliminate the use of this phrase with the vengeance and dislike that Sandy has for the use of unnecessary fasteners!

Small nit: could you guys say Bee Eee Vee rather than Bev? I have the same issues with Ice instead if Ai Cee Eee. . . I knew a Bev with a heart of Ice. . .😀

imho although Ford is trying, the 3 really big things that will stop mass market takeup are 1) the dealer markups on the all Fords putting people off buying a Ford .2)the scaleability of production of the BEV versions, if they can build them they should be able to sell them,3) the big elephant in the room is the parts supply eg "the blue ford oval", i watched a yt video where someone was parked @ a ex motor racing circuit & Ford had over 40,000 parked up due to lack of parts "badges/chips" until that problem is sold everyone that comes off the line missing parts is unsaleable and effectivately a "used vehicle" even before it gets to a stealership, unlike Tesla where every car that comes off the line is sold & complete and heading onwards to its owner, a company the age/size of Ford should have mastered vertical intergration @ least 30 years ago not now fighting to get "badges", if Jim is not careful the cybertruck hitting production and delieveries will kill the Ford/GM pickup marketshare in less than 3 years, a bit like the old saying"if you make it they will buy it" considering Ford/GMs state of fianances any delay in selling to the public(not the dealers) is only going to worsen there bottom line,i mean 40k plus stood vehicles for a $5 badge ??, the one thing Ford should have definately been making in house supremly bad decision to outsource the amount of parts they do,so many factors beyond Fords control that will cost them dearly from parts to stealerships, sad very sad, Henry must be spinning in his grave :(

@paulchristenson5256

Жыл бұрын

Most buyers of BEV trucks are not going to want to drive a Cybertruck, ie tradesmen. They're going to want a truck that looks and acts like a truck and not something people are going to point at and either laugh at or be in awe at. JMHO

@carholic-sz3qv

Жыл бұрын

Lol….. things are already changing

@tabbott429

Жыл бұрын

@@paulchristenson5256 Im a remodeler and I will replace my ford with a cybertruck in an instant.

@tabbott429

Жыл бұрын

Makes you wonder if thyre using the "missing parts" excuse as a cover for falling sales... Im betting they are.

Great video as usual, however, the music insertions was annoying and ridiculous

I have a chance to be the first one to see the whole video. Because I watch it at 320%...

After 2008, car manufacturers maybe more careful about costs. How many More bailouts can be avoided. Ford had mortgaged part of its self 3 years before 2008 but required government assistance in 2009.

This is where Chevy dropped the ball. Absolutely should have brought to market an electric version of the Silverado and Express. Proven, existing platforms.

@terrysullivan1992

Жыл бұрын

GM has been dropping the ball quite alot for the past decade.

that shirt is giving me convulsions with the effect on camera

FESM..fijizzle

Is there no concern about the lack of aerodynamics of this tool shed where the engine used to be? I guess if Ford welded an ice cream maker on the roof of it we'd all be swooning how useful and what a good idea that was. They kept the big front to keep it the same look as the ice model and somewhere to stick their badge, this is marketing not engineering.

gear tunnel ?? hello it a ev ford :) :)

@carholic-sz3qv

Жыл бұрын

@@richardnedbalek1968 nonsense!!!! Or reusing that already existing cavity for the EV hardware is a good idea instead of totally redesigning everything!!!!!!!

@heathwirt8919

Жыл бұрын

@@richardnedbalek1968 It has the roomiest interior in the segment and the tunnel is used to route electrical wiring and make clearance for the front motor mounted inverter.

Since Ford has been penalized previously for the lack of rollover protection, I wonder how strong the aluminum body will be and how much protection it will provide.

@brianb-p6586

Жыл бұрын

It's the same body as the conventional F-150, so it has the same rollover strength.

The price is way too high for a work-truck. Ford should build a 2 seat 8 foot box electric pickup with a 200 mile range for work trucks or they will lose this giant market.

Looks like it has very poor frontal crash worthiness.

First!

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

Wow, that’s amazing. The video isn’t even live yet! 😉

@tarassu

Жыл бұрын

You are. But YT shows you wrote this comment 15hours AGO :D You are time traveler? :D

Corey, turn the filler music down, or turn the talking up.

Any chance you can review my daughters Little Tikes??

The repairability of this compared to a Tesla is night and day. Telsa doesn't even allow structural pulls. People wonder why their insurance costs for Teslas are so high.

@carholic-sz3qv

Жыл бұрын

And also why tesla wants to offer their own insurance to deal with that nonsense “no parts is the way” wtf!! Also the ford is a commercial vehicle friendly to modifications with single and double cab….

@Johnny2Feathers

Жыл бұрын

Tesla cost the same to insure as other vehicles in their class and price range.

@elainebradley8213

Жыл бұрын

We have a 7 year old gmc sierra and a tesla model 3. Insurance for each is the same. Brilliant business move of tesla with Insurance. They have the data to charge a rate commensurate to driving style. Good drivers stay with tesla.

@elainebradley8213

Жыл бұрын

No tesla insurance here in northern Ontario.

6:41 The rock music background adds nothing to the presentation, and is just distracting. Try not to get too enamored with the video process and stick to the engineering.

@EricP36

Жыл бұрын

I love it

MUNRO live - Tesla Gigacasting is more Durable, repairable, and serviceable than anything else. Gigacasting can be welded if any cracks from crash. Crash rails can be cut off, unbolted, new rails bolted on.

@heathwirt8919

Жыл бұрын

More of mark robotically repeating Tesla BS Marketing points.

Sudden burst of music at 6:42 was unnecessarily jarring.

@MunroLive

Жыл бұрын

😂🤣

@ComputerPete

Жыл бұрын

Ya RIP eardrums of headphones users

Calling Facebook "meta" and Chrysler "stelantis" is still silly to me. lol. I refuse and reject this transcorporate society.

You guys speak about towing capacity as if it's important. It's a fallacy made up by the truck manufacturers . The vast majority of pickup owners never use their vehicle for which it was intended.

Its almost laughable how you expound the virtue of "more payload capacity" when in truth Ford was approaching worthlessness in terms of "modern standard" F150 packages without the use of aluminum. Looking through some of the specifications over the years, there was a time a decade ago when "modern standard" crew cab F150's had a total payload of less than 1,000 pounds, with that sub 1,000 pound payload including the driver. In truth, any half ton truck. light duty or heavy duty for its class, should have a payload closer to 1,250 pounds excluding the driver in that figure. The trucks were becoming nearly useless, and were being made only for being used as cars with a towing ability. Hell, load up six full sized men in those packages, and you were exceeding the worthless GVWR of those packages. The push to make half ton trucks crew cabs and treated as cars rather than trucks was creating a minor crisis. Crew cabs are much heavier than regular cabs, and the modern 6 and 10 speed transmissions and all the extra weight was essentially making them too heavy for their intended purpose. The most worthless half tons ever produced were the crew cab steel body trucks of that era. Pure garbage. The aluminum body isn't adding to the half ton truck, rather they are absolutely necessary for the half ton truck to work in the backwards configuration they want. You can't get a real crew cab half ton unless you find a way to cut off about 700-800 pounds. So, that's what they did. And always seeing everyone in the modern era ignore GVWR and payloadd, and instantly go back to "tow rating". Because every light duty truck going forward is a short bed and everything will be towed, right?

@brianb-p6586

Жыл бұрын

It's strange that the aluminum body is "absolutely necessary" for Ford, but GM and Stellantis (Ram) manage the same payloads with steel bodies.

When Tesla uses a large aluminum casting, the Tesla fans hail it as unique and superior to all others. When Ford uses an aluminum casting the entire width of the cab and of substantial height, on their highest-production vehicle model, it isn't even mentioned.

@terrysullivan1992

Жыл бұрын

What large casting are you referring to ? Certainly not in this video. Hydro forming is not casting.

@brianb-p6586

Жыл бұрын

@@terrysullivan1992 The dash support in the interior, spanning between the A-pillars. The longitudinal rails ahead of the firewall (and possibly other components) are hydroformed - I'm not referring to those.

I don't see a problem with the lightning looking like a regular F150. Why would I want to drive something that looks like a EV clown car.

@paulchristenson5256

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Building tradespeople are usually conservative at least in their choice of vehicles I would expect and aren't going to buy a goofy-looking truck that's as obnoxious looking as the Pontiac Aztec.

@tabbott429

Жыл бұрын

@@paulchristenson5256 yes they will simply becasue it will have lower cost of ownership (efficiency) and last longer with less maintenance/repair cost

@paulchristenson5256

Жыл бұрын

@@tabbott429 Says who?

MUNRO live - Tesla in September OUTSOLD the F150 gas truck Worldwide.

@ohger1

Жыл бұрын

Tesla doesn't have a truck...

@brunoheggli2888

Жыл бұрын

Tesla is only number 4 in ev sales in Europa!Tesla dosent have a Pickup Truck

@carholic-sz3qv

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@@brunoheggli2888 who gives a crap!!!!!

MUNRO live - FORD rushed it's design, rapidly reusing OUTDATED horse 🐎 & buggy Technology, and old ICE platform. some cost savings, but less Efficient, slower, short RANGE, less Power, very HEAVY. F150 EV can be Better made w/ no body on frame, with Structural battery & Gigacasting.

@ohger1

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Heavy? LOL, pay attention... The Lightning is bigger than the Rivian and weighs less.

@brunoheggli2888

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Nah its perfect use what you have first and work on a pure ev platform for the future!

@brunoheggli2888

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You have to write of your eqipment befor you implement a new production method!Yes beancounting is importend!

@brunoheggli2888

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For what trieing to reinvent the wheel new?This is perfect and very low cost,and they could bring something fast to the market!Would it be better if they would be 3 years later?Sure for Tesla investors!:)

@ProjectFairmont

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But Giga casting. Troll Tesla sycophant. You don’t like it, ok, but it’s not irrelevant. I would argue against EVs in general as an only car or truck unless you commute specifically point a to b, and live and travel where you have reliable charging. As a truck for towing, or as a vehicle for long distance beyond the novelty of charging inadequacies, like when time matters, no bueno. I rarely see Tesla’s traveling faster than the speed limit.