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Thank you for getting your first impressions out so quickly on the Mont Blanc. That is the trail shoe that I want, assuming that I can get a good fit.

Salomon sense rides tackle thick mud brilliantly 🙌🏼

Good reviews Timothy, thanks for sharing! Not decided for now to change my shoes but if I would ever think to get on Altra, I know where to search, mate! 👍 All the best wishes!

TD thank you for the great review. My LP 4.5 died this weekend. I originally picked up a pair of Olympus, and found I wanted the lower stack so I returned them & picked up the LP 6. I appreciate the input on energy return. If I remember I’ll update as I use mine!

@TDMiller

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment! I'm glad it was useful 😊 I'm also not such a great fan of max cushioned shoes, so I don't think I'll ever go for the olympus myself. MB is already bordering it with 30mm. Keep me posted!

Thank you TD for your Video and for some of your first impressions on the LP 6 and Mont Blanc. Will just have too see how they hold up and what your thoughts with some miles / KM's on them. Have a great week. 😎👍

I’m stoked about the timp 4

@TDMiller

2 жыл бұрын

I wish I could try them out also. I've "only" managed 100km in my Timp 3, so they still have a long way to go before I need to replace them 😅

Good spot on the toe rocker for the MB. Definitely targets a faster pace of running which is a nice addition to Altra's lineup.

@TDMiller

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Elliot! I'm not a fast runner, but these do really want me to run fast in the trails. I didn't expect that! Thanks for the comment. 😊

Speaking of Lone Peak, I've ran up and down Lone Peak in Utah (video on my channel too). Looks like a great shoe that is well made and offers a few good updates. I haven't ran in Altra's (yet) but would love to give them a try. The Mont Blanc looks awesome!

@TDMiller

2 жыл бұрын

Running the Mont Blanc is slightly more realistic for me geographically, albeit a little too high for my liking😅

Oh lucky guy! You got a pair of Mont Blanc!

Mont Blanc looks soooo good. Not ready to replace my king Mt's just yet though... But soon!

MaxTrak is definitely rubbish in wet conditions. Even on wet pavement it’s terrible. I just upgraded to Olympus today for the Vibram from the Superior. I’m waiting to test my Mont Blancs until my husband’s arrive. Pretty excited about the light shoe, but very good points on the lack of protection in the toe.

Well done, awesome video. Stellar sound! Still not buying Already though 😁. Although the Mont Blanc looks fun for non technical trails.

Great reviews. Just done a first impressions of the LP6 wide, annoyed i didn’t go down 1/2 size as they do run long…. Not much wider - it’s more overall material … Liking the Mont Blanc … but a little concerned about width

@TDMiller

2 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to seeing it. I am curious about the extra wide, although I definitely don't need it myself.

@DoseofDirt

2 жыл бұрын

Also concerned about the width. That Vibram outsole got me ready to order, but I think I may have to pass based on the fit...

@slavasss2189

2 жыл бұрын

I think they are NOT running long...but they slowly return to be normal sizing compared to other brands...historically altras are much shorter imo compared with regular nike,asics etc...

If anyone is wondering, the "brown " color is actually orange. I'm returning mine.

NICE🔥💯 Got mine today. Might try them out tomorrow morning on the hills. The tread feels/looks very nice. Toe cap or lack there of might be an issue for my upcoming 75k but they look promising besides that.

@TDMiller

2 жыл бұрын

That's awesome! Keep me posted! I'm seriously interested in hearing your thoughts on them.

@damienchaduiron3106

2 жыл бұрын

What about the size and feet

@TDMiller

2 жыл бұрын

I find them true to size, and wear them in the same size as my other Altras. At first glance, it looks a little narrow (like the Rivera) but after a few runs it can definitely be worn by people with slightly wider feet. They're just not as curved/clown shoe shaped like most other Altras.

The Superiors are my favorite but Altra really needs to step it up.

Very nice

I love the LP5, its so comfy. But the outsole needs a massive revamp as the grip is useless in any form of mud. I really wish they did a soft ground version for with real deep lugs for muddy conditoins, that would be perfect. Shoes that do grip well in mud are Inov-8 Mudclaw, X Talons and Hoka Evo Jawz. Great shoes for muddy conditions. Nice review.

@TDMiller

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Daz! Thanks for the tips! Mud is such a pain to run through.

@70h4nn35

2 жыл бұрын

LP with Vibram Megagrip would be the dream

Thank you! If you have a scale, could you compare the Mont Blanc with the Lone peak 5? Thank you

@TDMiller

2 жыл бұрын

My Lone Peak 5s (Size 10.5US) are 316grams and my Mont Blancs (size 10 US) are 286grams. Hope this helps 🙂Let me know if you have any further questions

@Underbartlagom

2 жыл бұрын

@@TDMiller Thanks a lot!! Anton

Those mont Blancs do look really cool, wonder who will race with them at UTMB 😂

@TDMiller

2 жыл бұрын

Googling "Altra Mont Blanc" often gets automatically changed to "Ultra Mont Blanc" 😅 so I would not be surprised

Use a Lone Peak 5 and a hoka zinal. In terms of GRIP the vibram rubber outperforms the maxtrack in every situation. Besides from this i like both shoes but for different distance.

@TDMiller

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment! How are you liking the Zinal?

@plain-bagel

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been intrigued by the Zinal! It looks lightweight and the traction and stack height seem ideal. Just worried about how tapered the Hoka toe boxes are

"Don't shoot the messenger" 😆 I'm disappointed in the fit based on what you're describing. When I saw it had a Vibram outsole I was STOKED because, like you, I really don't like the MaxTrac. But it sounds like the fit probably wouldn't work for me. Since you have both the Timps and the Lone Peaks, would you say the Mont Blanc is in the middle between those, or really more like the fit of the Timp? I ask because the Timps hurt my feet because of the toe box fit, so if that's what the Mont Blanc feels like then it's a no-go for me. Thanks for sharing your first impressions!

@TDMiller

2 жыл бұрын

LP is significantly wider and more curved. I'd actually need to compare the Superior with the MB. Upper is pretty similar. Thanks for watching! I'm curious to see the retention on this vid. Probably a spike when I start talking about the MB 😅

@DoseofDirt

2 жыл бұрын

@@TDMiller You did tease us all! I thought the grin you got whenever you mentioned you would get to the Mont Blanc later was hilarious. 😆

Seth demoor had a tear in his lp6 upper after less than 50 miles. Right where the toe box creases. It seems they cannot get out from under their poor trail shoe durability. Throw in the fact that their outsole rubber can be dangerously unpredictable and they still have some major issues to work out. I still keep my Saucony trail shoes for those wet/sloppy days because the altras are useless and better left at home. This is pretty much the one thing keeping me from being able to be exclusive to Altra. I get that the Rivera's are "slim fit" but I find the timp 2 to be WAY more snug than the Rivera. In addition, my riveras fit very long. I could've easily sized down a half and probably a full size. It's a very baggy fit. All of that being said, I just got the escalante racer and although I only have less than 30 miles in them, I have a 10 mile effort, a few "recovery" paced 4-5 milers and a max effort 10k. The escalante racer is the best shoe I have ever run in from any brand. Now I need to find it's trail companion. Sorry for getting wordy there! I just wish I could rely on Altra as I LOVE the fit and the effect they have on my entire physical health.

@TDMiller

2 жыл бұрын

As I saw Seth run in the Lone Peak 6 on a treadmill and the way he janks on the tongues putting his shoes on, I'm not sure what to think of his reviews nowadays. Don't get me wrong - he knows a lot about shoes! And we can learn a lot of what he has to share with us. Altra definitely has a bad rep with durability - I've personally never had any issues, so I cannot confirm, but I've heard many many stories. Have you ever tried running in the shoes without the insole? Altra designs their shoes to also be worn without the insole, so this can give the runner more space. No worries about leaving long comments - I love hearing from other runners and talking about Altras! I try to include stories just like yours in my reviews to give the viewer a wider opinion, and not just my personal opinion. :-)

@robertmorano2372

2 жыл бұрын

@@TDMiller I have tried running in my riveras without the insole. at about 200 miles, I started to get a blister on the inside of my left foot arch on anything over 5 miles or so. At first I thought that it would solve the issue but with no luck. I've been trying different insoles in hopes of at least getting enough miles out of them to be satisfied with my purchase. I even emailed altra about the sizing of the riveras and how every review I saw or read suggesting maybe sizing up a half size (I ordered my normal size that I wear in everything, including superiors, timps, and now the escalante racer and other brands as well) and how mine absolutely fit at least one full size large. I asked them if I were to purchase another rivera or wait for the rivera 2, if the sizing would be about the same, or should I try a full size down. They told me maybe try the escalante. I do like the rivera for certain things although it is way too soft for what I wanted it to be and it looks like the upper in version 2 might have some improvements to help mitigate that "baggy" fit. Not to mention I'm really attracted to that colorway you posted the other day with the olive green midsole foam. Either way, I'm at the point with my rivera's of just getting enough miles out of them so I can justify buying another pair of escalante racers, which I'm now obsessed with and would love to see a trail companion to, it even though I saw altra is probably discontinuing the racer. If only the superior was a little bit firmer and would grip. I know people say to just get the olympus, but I don't want the olympus. I want a minimal, "stiffer" faster trail shoe that grips like my peregrines. We see a lot of gnarly, wet, very technical trail conditions here in the hudson valley region of New York and I need a trail shoe that inspires confidence as you move through terrain. And not always wondering "is this the step where I might need to change my shorts" (or worse). Again, I'm blabbering now. Thanks for the reply.

Don't forget there will also be a Altra Mont Blanc BOA, featuring a dual-dial BOA fit system. There are photos on the interweb.

@TDMiller

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Not sure when they'll be available though. Probably towards the end of the year, I think. At ~210/220€ pretty expensive for recreational runner like myself 😅

@jacobriis7859

2 жыл бұрын

@@TDMiller It should be available in May, I think it will be called Altra Mont Blanc Elite.

@TDMiller

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacobriis7859 thanks for the info!

I’m concerned about the width of the Mont Blancs too. I get the idea of racing/performance fits being more narrow in road running contexts, but for ultra running it feels backwards. I expect my feet will expand over the 5+ hours I’m out there so I definitely don’t want a slim shoe

@TDMiller

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree! My feet swell up pretty quickly, so I'll need to test it out. The upper is pretty stretchy and the shoe does allow quite some foot height. I'll keep you posted

@slavasss2189

Жыл бұрын

@@TDMiller do u like width of montblanc so far?

@TDMiller

Жыл бұрын

@@slavasss2189 I'm happy with the width of the MBs. I do remember needing to loosen up the laces on a few of my runs, and after my races needing to unlace my shoes completely to get my feet to breath a little. But they didn't cause any discomfort. BOA would have made that easier though.

Hey. You have size 10US,. But what is your foot length in mm? I have 265mm and i would like to buy a size 43EU. Thanks

@TDMiller

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Pan! My feet are also 265mm 😊 10US feels perfect, with 1 thumb's width extra space from the big toe. I prefer my shoes to be larger so my feet have extra space to swell up during the run

@andrzejz2159

2 жыл бұрын

@@TDMiller I bought a size 43 Paradigm. I tried Torin 43 on and weird, but it was smaller than the Paradigm. why the same size is smaller I do not know. Paradigm is very soft, maybe even too soft. I don't know if it's a good choice for asphalt running. Besides, I don't know if the size 43 is too small. It seems good, but I don't have a lot of free space in my fingers. Very similar feeling to other brands of running shoes in size 43, or even slightly less space in length. I will try to buy Torin 6 in the summer i hope Torin 6 have a bit more room than Torin 5 :D Or i will try to get size 10.

@TOXIN543

2 жыл бұрын

@@TDMiller Sorry to jump into your discussion. Just want to add my 2 cents. I actually have the same foot length and usually buy a EU44.5/US10.5 and even a EU45/US11 for the superior 5 and nikes. So everyone has their own preference.

Hard to be critical but I would like more of a bumper guard but nice trail t00l.

@TDMiller

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm just dreading the first stone or root I'll be kicking on one of my trails. Especially while tired. Black toenail incoming... 😲

@roustabout4fun

2 жыл бұрын

@@TDMiller yes...sometimes...my Goats will actually win over large rocks, dislodge a surprisingly large rock without me feeling any pain.

My shoelaces were barely long enough to lace up properly. And my toenails are taking a beating from the reinforcing along the front of the toebox.

@TDMiller

Жыл бұрын

That doesn't sound good! Have you tried a bigger size? It's usually preferable to have at least a thumb's width between your big toe and end if the toebox. If you bump into the end, it sounds like they're too small? Altra always seems to have issues with their laces 😅 either too long or too short. Or in some cases too stiff or too silky 😅

After 35 miles in Altra Mont Blanc, the Vibram logo starts to soften. My little toes were racked with pain and blisters from that thing.

@TDMiller

2 жыл бұрын

Oh boy! That doesn't sound good. I got my first long run planned tomorrow in the muddy trails. Let's see how we'll they do for me. But yeah, I have little faith in any form of toe protection 😅

@alexanderlammert3875

2 жыл бұрын

@@TDMiller In the Palatinate Forest, I'm not particularly worried about stones. That's why it's even more annoying when the toes are opened by a logo on the side of the midsole.

@TDMiller

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderlammert3875 I see. That's a frustrating design flaw. Deister and Harz (Niedersachsen) are my stomping grounds. Mainly woods, muddy trails and gravel roads. Not much to kick, but an occasional exposed root or rock to trip over 😅

@matthewmyers7826

2 жыл бұрын

so you can feel the Vibram outsole wrap around on the midsole? It looks several mm down.

that's United away shirt

@TDMiller

2 жыл бұрын

Very well spotted! Third shirt to be exact 😊

No toes protection in the montblanc? Oh boy

@TDMiller

2 жыл бұрын

Fast runners don't trip? Not sure what they were thinking here, but it probably helps with keeping the weight down. Let see how my toenails like this.

Women shoes color choices are so limited and looked not attractive too. Men's color choices look feminie, What's wrong with Altra??