The book this is based on, also called Altered Carbon, won at least 3 awards, including the Arthur C. Clarke award. This isn't a Ghost in the Shell or Blade Runner mimic. Those things may be influences, but that's allowed. It's cyberpunk noir, there is a certain visual/conceptual language involved.

this show is based on the book which is exactly about an asian man transferring into other bodies of diff. races, but thats not even the point of the books, the books are about the world and other stuff the MC gets roped into.

Grace research the books hes white in the first book black in second and asian and female in a stretch, its nothing like ghost in the shell

Its not coppied its exactly what the books were about so far

@Lormenkal64

6 жыл бұрын

i am not sure about the meaning of derivative since i am not a native speker and havent had any prior encounters with the word

@Jagonath

6 жыл бұрын

violetcrumble94 it's derivative in the same way Dredd is derivative of Blade Runner, or Ghost in the Shell is derivative. VISUALLY there are similarities -- high tech stuff, flying cars, smog, fight scenes -- beyond that the actual story is not derivative at all.

@dashdeception

6 жыл бұрын

means like copy but more nuance

@RulesOfAtraction

6 жыл бұрын

She should do some research before coming in here giving her opinion about something she clearly knows nothing about..

The book this is based on has ALL of that social commentary. And more. You should really read the book.

@drakenfist

6 жыл бұрын

did you get any hint from that trailer that the show may be delving in to that social commentary from the book?.

@lyunardo

6 жыл бұрын

I'd say yes. Even from this 3 minute trailer I can tell that the main theme's of the book are there. As far as Grace's point: how many people have the luxury of driving a different car every day if they choose? Can't say more without spoiling it. Read the book!

@drakenfist

6 жыл бұрын

Cool!, I definitely will. What frustrated me about what Grace said, is she is commenting on a trailer without doing any research on what it's based on. "oh no, now they're white washing again!, didn't they watch GITS!". But if it's based on a book that has all of those ideas..what should they do..change the story because all the ideas that are in the book are apparently no longer new anymore?..sounds ridiculous to me.

@lyunardo

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, obviously I like Grace's channel and reviews; but she sees movies from an industry point of view and always thinks about the box office first. Personally, I'm more interested in the story, acting, cinematography, etc... This was a great book, and can't wait to see the show.

@Kyle-fg3rr

6 жыл бұрын

more and more grace says the most negative non sense without even knowing the source material etc, to say this is a copy is like saying any movie set in a dystopian future is copying which is just ridiculous. I really used to love her reviews even when I didnt agree but lately it feels like she is trying to be funny or say things for shock value bc her reviews just feel so negative and that would be ok if she supported it with intelligent reasons, not the BS she is spewing these days.

Nothing problematic about race changing Grace. In the book, he changed from asian to caucasian because that's the entire point. Race is irrelevant when the person in the sleeve could be anyone. In later books he changes into a black sleeve and then in another book he's in an asian sleeve. The problem with GitS was that the original main character was Japanese and they changed it to a white person. Now the interesting question is if there will be a different actor each season or if they will keep Kinnaman throughout.

@epbrown01

6 жыл бұрын

And what Grace talks about actually sort of happens in the books as well - while the rich have multiple clones they can switch to, people can and do switch into synthetic bodies built for different purposes. The show seems to be dropping the space travel aspect though, where people are transmitted to other worlds at light speed and downloaded into local bodies, so you can move around the solar system in minutes.

@MrNathansdad

6 жыл бұрын

Damn you! Now I've got to go and buy these books. They sound intriguing. (And by damn you! I mean, thank you)

@Lormenkal64

6 жыл бұрын

the original character is still asian its explained in a bts

@Lormenkal64

6 жыл бұрын

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@drakenfist

6 жыл бұрын

E Brown or they could be saving the space travel aspect for later perhaps?. Slowly introducing elements from the books instead of just throwing them out there. Just a thought.

From what I've heard, "changing bodies like outfits" is the core of the original story, but only for the rich. The trailer may be only omitting this socioeconomic detail.

@chrisf5828

6 жыл бұрын

Erebus Research yes, the rich literally rotate bodies like tires in the books

@oooChickenatorXooo

6 жыл бұрын

unless you have the money to keep cloning yourself and then just sleeve right into a younger you. Over, and over, and over...

The book this is based on is brilliant. Check out the audible version narrated by Wil Wheaton. I hope this is good!

@lyunardo

6 жыл бұрын

You're right. Great book. But Todd McLaren was the narrator. He's good too.

@LastRenegade

6 жыл бұрын

While resisting the urge to yell "Shut up, Wesley!" the entire time? I think not, my good man.

@Dularr

6 жыл бұрын

Wil Wheaton, I'll pass.

@lyunardo

6 жыл бұрын

Funny, but Wil Wheaton doesn't read Altered Carbon. Todd McLaren does. But Wheaton is actually a pretty good audiobook reader. He does Ready Player One, and it's great.

@MorgansCornerTheSeries

6 жыл бұрын

Ben Award winning book was truly great! I'm excited...

The main character from the book the movie is based on isn't fully Asian. Takeshi Kovacs is half Japanese and half Hungarian.

Reading the book would have helped this video a lot. Altered Carbon is this century's Neuromancer, which will also seem derivative when eventually filmed

Did she say copy??! Does she do some research before she speaks

@jonatassilva2605

6 жыл бұрын

Nope, not unless it's comic books

@hamzadurrani205

6 жыл бұрын

The visuals are copied. The atmosphere is copied. And the books were released along time after the Ghost in the shell movies so yeah COPIED.

@blkghostxx

6 жыл бұрын

Hamza Durrani the main character is a human not a android though! Damn people are so fucking close minded! All movies and tv shows copy from another source but the story and characters will always be different

@nazimelmardi

6 жыл бұрын

It has nothing to do with Ghost in the Shell. That is a comic book/anime. The book is a novel and a very complex one and a series with other 2 books. The story is much more complex than the Ghost in the Shell's, the main character too. Check it out before saying something. This book is one of the best, not just a popular comic in the west...

@jopochapo

6 жыл бұрын

Hamza Durrani not really but ok you fucking expert Jesus

I was pleasantly surprised to see that this is going to be a series, I'm rooting for this to be good because I want Joel Kinneman to have a win.

Might I recommend a reading of the source material before diving into this series? While I believe adaptions must improve upon their source, in this case, based on what I see and what I understand the books to be about, the creators may have done justice to Richard K, Morgan's vision.

Very much agreed Grace .. seen this type of film many times but will still check it out

Looks great. Netflix is truly coming into their own. Recently rewatched What Happened to Monday, Bright & Okja...all excellent.

@adavidtoremember

6 жыл бұрын

brainurizm 101 I wouldn't say Bright was excellent. No where near that

@randomdude_2000

6 жыл бұрын

i loved what happened to Monday except he ending was shit

Some channels that already have the show available to watch said that it is amazing! Can't wait!

It's cool to see Martin from the Rowdy 3 (Dirk Gently) in this. This gives me some hope for a Season 3 on Netflix.

I'm just halfway through the original book. I don't think this has anything to do with whitewashing in GITS. In the book ethnicity is not irrelevant... But it's just different. Takeshi Kovacs is supposed to be half Japanese and half Polish, from a planet colonized by that joint effort. He seems to be going to be played by different actors in flashbacks and the present. There are planets colonized by the Vatican, by Islamic countries... And this happens mostly on Earth. The sleeve Tak is wearing belonged to a particular person, so it wouldn't make sense for it to fit his ethnicity. He's also used female sleeves. I don't know if he uses the same sleeve in the sequels. If Tak is that sleeve fluid... He should me played by many more actors. I personally think it can be very original if done right.

@Obosii

6 жыл бұрын

I loved the story of the first novel. The second and third are also really good but the first was the best. They should have used Kinnaman's voice as narration and then they could have cycled different actors/actresses in over several seasons. That would have been ace as Kinnaman has a good narration voice.

@nazimelmardi

6 жыл бұрын

Not polish. Hungarian. "Kovacs" is a hungarian name and the colonist too with japanese.

@anonymes2884

6 жыл бұрын

Tak is indeed "that sleeve fluid", as per the books that's actually one of the things Envoys are specially trained for. If the show's a success i'd fully expect to see the main character played by actors of different ages, ethnicities and even genders in later series.

@TheDecatonkeil

6 жыл бұрын

I think I read it somewhere that he was half Polish. Not in the book, but somewhere on the internet, so I never researched the surname.

@nazimelmardi

6 жыл бұрын

No. The "Kovacs" is a hungarian name. Trust me, I'm hungarian. And in the book you can find the writers note about it too.

Just made the perfect pitch for a solo Mystique movie (sans JLaw of course).

Different bodies for different social functions is the first interesting idea I heard this year, kudos Grace😎👍

Read the book

This show is freaking awesome. Can't wait for season 2.

I loved the book, read it when it first came out (2002?) and "cyberpunk" novels were few and far between. I'm really excited to see the series. So glad they went that route rather than a movie; it gives us more time in the world. Can't wait!

Is it a movie or tv show?

WOW this looks awesome! I am a sucker for cyberpunk. If there are neon visuals and flying cars I will watch it.

Grace can I use that idea about switching bodies like outfits

This looks a lot like Blade Runner

Soo glad this show is coming back for a second season! Absolutely loved the first one! The "small screen" is really surpassing movies these days in about every which way possible (it has for years now) and stuff like "Game Of Thrones" and now "Altered Carbon" are proof positive of that very thing. I can't wait to see what Anthony Mackie will do with the role as the new lead in the second season! I also love the fact that the pilot was directed by Miguel Sapochnick who did an amazing job directing several episodes of "Game Of Thrones" as well! I hope he comes back for the second season as well!

In the Miracle Man comics, there is something like that, changing bodies for different uses.

Something similar to the switching bodies for different events concept you mentioned have kinda already been explored a little. Do you remember Surrogates? With Bruce Willis?

um um um um...where's your reaction to the new Krypton trailer? 😭😭

i watched the show and i loved it. need season two, right now. you get, what i did there?^^

OMG , Joel Kinnaman!!! I'd watch it only for it!

"Wouldn't it be cooler if you could switch bodies like outfits?" That's kind of the point. And it is equally applicable to GitS, but of course people prefer to call it whitewashing, even though in GitS it was explained that Caucasian was the latest model (implying the previous wasn't) and Matoko looks ambiguous anyways.

Got to watch a prescreening of this all I can say is it is as good as it looks.

Looks interesting!

Greatest show ever!

I just realized I want your reaction to a trailer to see if I should be interested. Its like a flashback to the 80's Siskel and Ebert. I'm now stirred up to read this book. You are such a girl wanting to switch looks/bodies all the time.

Grace what you think about now that show is over

Your sooo awesome !!!

Yeah that would be grace i would see that movie heck i would write that script lol

Needed to see more of Dichen Lachman in the trailer.

Nine inch nails-the beginning is the end is the name of the song. If anyone cares lol

You should watch Joel in Johan Falk movies. He's amazing and gives a great performance as Frank Wagner. Series looks awesome. Hopefully it doesn't disappoint.

Looks cool to me.

the idea of switching bodies like clothes was already hinted at in Surrogates

@chrisf5828

6 жыл бұрын

Correct, and surrogates was primarily inspired by this book and others like Kiln People

Grace, that movie your talking about it allready exist, its called "surrogates"

why is Grace-sama so kawaii when she watches the trailers?

4:30 the movie you were referring to would be "Surrogates".

One of my favourite SciFi novels. Sleeving, or changing bodies (including race) is as common place as changing your clothes.

Hey that's mexican actress martha higareda im so happy to see her

@Jagonath

6 жыл бұрын

Who incidentally is playing a white character... so I'm not sure the racism argument is going to go far here.

@jennytargaryen

6 жыл бұрын

Jago Sevetar not that sure her character's name is kristin ortega

That’s Martha Higareda! Nice to see a Mexican actress in a Netflix movie!

The lead actor has the perfect look for Gambit (X-Men).

Looks pretty good, flashy visuals, looks like it might be fun: I get flashes of Altered States, Blade Runner, Ghost in the Shell! Plus, it's got Dichen Lachman! I'm in!!

Joel was fuckin phenomenal in "The Killing!"

this looks more like Bladerunner than the actual Bladerunner sequel, looks great

I loved ghost in the shell

Hi Grace! Just wondering if you’ve ever seen Joss Whedon’s series Dollhouse. It touches on many of the things you said you’d be interested in here. It’s a great watch and low commitment, with only like 20 something episodes total. Anyway, love your videos! Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on Black Widow!

It could be really challenging to cast for a series wherein each character needs half a dozen different "bodies" (read: actors). Not to mention could prove very confusing or difficult to follow, visually.

*What if you could switch bodies like you switch outfits* Oh my god I was just thinking that! Though, to be fair, that might get confusing for an audience. But it could also be cool to have your main character played by several different actors and actresses.

"on is sleeve" well the bodies are called sleeves.....and later books do switch bodies per tasks as needed....so maybe?

So excited I think I saw Dichen Lachman! The rest of it looks blah but I love her.

I wish they wouldn't always make these themed movies anctioners. If they made a movie like Inception just in the future, with futuristic problems, it would be so good!

can u react to tully trailer with charlize theron? it’s very interesting

It may be based on a book that explains the swapping of sleeves into other ethnicities, but casual viewers won't know that. I hope the show is given a chance because this is nothing like what casual non-book reading viewers think it will be. It Will BE SPECTACULAR! I'm also watching because Joel Kinnaman looks yummy.

looks promising

Dichen Lachman

Where is your Black Widow coverage, Grace ? I've been waiting for it the whole day!

Grace. Joel Kinneman was great in House of Cards. And he made a pretty good Robocop. Yeah? Maybe?

Lewis tan as Nightwing Madison beer as Kat Love of Dante

I love it , looks pretty good and it looks more like blade runner than ghost in the shell

I like your idea about changing bodies like clothes much more than this shows first trailer Grace

The books are influenced by blade runner (the first one) and the original ghost in the shell and they fit nicely in the cyberpunk genre. From the trailer, it looks similar storywise to the 1st book. Having enjoyed the book series will definitely tune in to the show.

Grace if you think this is interesting you should give 'Counterpart' a look, new series on Starz thats coming out and getting a lot of buzz

This is very good i watched at least 4 episodes so far i was disappointed with the new blade runner and this is what i hoped blade runner would've been like but this" Ultra Carbon" is better than what i expected, lots of action and small twist and scenes you don't understand now but will later that's what i like in a series and interesting characters i guess they thought that the new blade runner was gonna be a hit than more people would've easily would love this series

@dippster357

6 жыл бұрын

I do know now, that the series is called "Altered" Carbon" NOT ULTRA CARBON

Doctor who + GITS + blade runner = Altered Carbon

So, what did you think of Surrogates (2009) with Bruce Willis where people live their lives through human-like, android avatars? In that movie, people had at least the possibility of doing what you described -- changing their "skin" on a whim. Not as flashy as Altered Carbon or Ghost in the Shell, but it was interesting nonetheless. On the whole, I enjoyed it and will likely watch AC..

Well this showrunner is the same behind that other cyberpunk coming out soon "Alita Battle Angel". Seems the showrunner has a crush on the genre. It's series of 3 volumes written by Richard Morgan. My guess is if this gets into their alley it'll continue onto the next chapters.

This is based off a really popular cyberpunk book series that came out in 2002 I believe. So it is not really copying per say.

Nine Inch Nails Track? I'm hooked :D Looks promising ^^

looks way better than the netflix marvel shows..

Looks like a reworking of Demolishon Man

NIN soundtrack. Will watch.

Well the race blanket that Grace spoke about exists, it seems even from the trailer that this is not the case for this series. I saw Black, Asian, Hispanic and Indian actors.

music by Nine Inch Nails!!!!!!!!

Joel Kinnaman is great in House of Cards

Shit they DID give this thing a budget. Damn.

Looks more GITS than the actual GITS spiced with some blade runner in it.

*I think there's something to be said for doing a thing well* Hi Grace, so you commented on how this seems to be really derivative of a lot of other cyberpunk and sci-fi works. While I would agree, a lot of people were pretty disappointed in those versions. So I think theirs some merit in trying to make a high-quality product. Now, this could turn out to be bad, I haven't seen it yet, but I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt for now.

You should have let me sleep! [crushes Admiral Marcus' skull]

how the heck is this affordable!

Ghost in the shell Blade Runner mash up.

Wait if this is a show it might actually be really interesting, high hopes never work out for anyone tho

Grace, you really should educate yourself on the source material before commenting!!

@crumblizm01

6 жыл бұрын

Agree

@CarbonTech19

6 жыл бұрын

dendariiprime came here to say just that. Pontificating without a shred of actual information save the trailer. The book was an amazing debut for the author and received rave reviews. Next time spend a few minutes doing some research instead of spinning your wheels.

@Steveglenside1723

6 жыл бұрын

I agree with all of you. Love the concept. Have the book on order from my library. How is this like Ghost In A Shell?

@dendariiprime

6 жыл бұрын

CarbonTechPS3 the problem is, this isn't the first time she's done this!!

The novel (series of novels) are excellent. I wish they didn't make it into a TV show though because how Blade Runner 2049 was...that is how I imagined Altered Carbon to be. So anything else is a letdown. And they haven't changed ethnicity...not really.

The book comes off much grimy and more run down. Hope they kept the hotel ai that was the best part.

@Jagonath

6 жыл бұрын

I'm sure they will keep it ... a murderous and conniving outcast AI that runs a hotel and is based on Jimmy Hendrix is too precious to cut!

It looks like i Robot.

Scifi story that seems to be my kinda show. I've watched the Travelers series (people from a dystopian future travel their conscience to people in the present right before they were recorded to die in an attempt to prevent the dystopian future from happening) and I cant say its that great but I sometimes can't say no to these types of shows. So pretty sure i'll watch it - just hope it's good and entertaining.

Says it looks by the numbers and is derivative....loved the sub par beauty and the beast live action film

Kovacs is half Japanese, half Polish. Reading the books I never saw him as looking very Japanese and if you look at most 'hafu' (mixed race Japanese) the Japanese look isn't super strong. But Joel Kinnaman isn't Kovacs. He's Elias Ryker, the sleeve that Kovacs is wearing at this particular time. Kovacs is a bit like Dr Who. He can be anyone: black, white, male, female and often is. Such is the life of an envoy. Seriously, read the novels.