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@jonibrewer5130

5 жыл бұрын

Ml

Allen Ginsberg saying his favorite picture that year was “My Own Private Idaho.” 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

I love the attention Ginsberg gives to Kinnell as he speaks...this is an excellent post.

Whitman is absolutely beautiful his work his life will last forever!

I am a big fan of Walt Whitman, Sharon Olds, and Allen Ginsburg. I will check out the other guy, too! Sharon Olds is so calm as the other men take up most of the time! Oh, well, it is great this is still available to see.

@DebNKY

5 ай бұрын

Galway Kinnell. Read The Bear. It's pure naturalism. Very primitive and beautiful.

What a great episode of the Charlie Rose show!

"When your heart flows broad and full like a river..." Kinnell's reading of Walt made me think of D.H.Lawrence's Ship of Death. Did only poets catch that broad deep river of love? Where is it to be seen in America?

@inkylabyrinth

6 жыл бұрын

You can see it sometimes, if you're open to it. :)

@AllendeEtAl

5 жыл бұрын

It is not to be seen anywhere but everywhere. Don't go searching for the sacred garden, the sacred garden is inside of you! Good luck, love and peace.

@DebNKY

5 ай бұрын

Context. The next line reads "a blessing and a danger to those living near." To me it's about duality.

What peaches and what penumbras!

@etiennemarshallthach3736

3 жыл бұрын

Megumi the milky way

@oniongummy8969

3 жыл бұрын

@@etiennemarshallthach3736 it’s choade, my dear

4:34-4:48 C-A-N-D-O-R by Ginsberg.

...the answer to Sharon Olds question at 11:25....is that Walt became Spiritually embellished..ripe..the fruit fell from the Living Tree at his feet...among the leaves of grass....Cosmic Consciousness..expansive and Eternal as his own sense of Self...the very Song of Himself.🌈This awakening of the Spirit of All embracing Love is Perennial and not dependant on apparent physical age or a seeming of worldly experience.Cheers.Thank You to the poster.

@maunichyr

3 жыл бұрын

this guy is more faded than jaden smith off of DMT

@devasadhvi

2 жыл бұрын

good answer to her here. Thanks for that Cosmic Man

@DebNKY

5 ай бұрын

​@@maunichyrGinsberg was known to use marijuana and LSD to expand his mind. He's just brilliant.

Idk why Ginsberg isn’t respected more. He’s more than a poet and decisively articulate about history of literature and even politics sometimes.

@DebNKY

5 ай бұрын

If I had to guess, it's his lifestyle. The love that dare not speak its name. I've always loved both him and Galway Kinnell.

@ExcitedAnacondaSnake-hg8ec

5 ай бұрын

@@DebNKY Oscar Wilde, Whitman, Plato, Foucault , were gay and are much more celebrated and well known. Wilde wasn’t even that good of a writer, he wrote one great play, and his fame is as big as a writer can have. A lot of historical writers were gay. I don’t buy it.

@DebNKY

5 ай бұрын

@@ExcitedAnacondaSnake-hg8ec he was Jewish? He was put through an obscenity trial? It was the 50s? People had their reasons for villifying him. I pay no attention to them. People who know, love him.

@BestBroGamerShow

3 ай бұрын

​@@DebNKYmaybe it's the fact he supported NAMBLA. Sounds like a good enough reason for most people.

they knew how to listen to each other🍾

Love that look from Galway when Charlie misspeaks his name.

Great discussion; but Charley Rose doesn't know how to pronounce Galway Kinnell. It's GAWL-way ki-NELL. Sorry to be a smart-ass.

"Who would Whitman vote for....certainly not George Bush." xD

@erinnstrackbein4831

6 жыл бұрын

Certainly not Trump.

@Mark-td6wh

5 жыл бұрын

podycheck source? I know he dated younger men

My students today don't know who Ginsburg is.

@maunichyr

3 жыл бұрын

Well isn't a teacher's job to make sure their students know who people (such as Ta-Nehisi Coates and Ginsberg) are?

@ransomcoates546

3 жыл бұрын

@@maunichyr My point was that people complain students don’t know Whitman and Eliot. But not to know the most famous counter-cultural beat poet was just very funny to me.

@heressomestuffifound

2 жыл бұрын

Please fix that.

@DebNKY

5 ай бұрын

Read Howl aloud to them. Do the beats, the pulses. They'll get it.

JERRY BROWN '92 !!!!! defeat NAFTA and the Prince of Sleaze!!!!!

olds reads whitman exactly like an episcopalian priest might.

Hey, NAMBLA member.

@DebNKY

5 ай бұрын

Who are you talking about? Whitman?

Anyone else here from "Kaddish"?

Oh my. I always thought Sharon Olds was blonde.

@DebNKY

5 ай бұрын

I think she just lets her hair go naturally grey. It's very becoming.

Sharon Olds, Galway Kinnel, who are these people? Ginsberg to WHitman I am jusr literate enough to trace a discernible line.

@DebNKY

5 ай бұрын

Poets. Read The Bear by Galway Kinnell, it's so beautiful.

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Ginsburg...lol 🤣

@DebNKY

5 ай бұрын

Why is he funny?

@sniffableandirresistble

5 ай бұрын

@DebNKY I was drunk when I typed that ( notice misspelled name) but I think something he said made me laugh, but since I was drunk, I was just emoting and didn't reference what specifically made me laugh and now I don't recall. Now it's transposed into a kind of mystery. ,,,, "lol 😂"

What? Whitman? Gay?! Nawwww! Haha

@DebNKY

5 ай бұрын

Look who's uncomfortable.

You had to spoil this by ending the discussion with politics.

@maunichyr

3 жыл бұрын

the party of anti-intellectualism and the trump virus has got to be called out. what else would you expect from the greatest minds of our generation?

The conspiratorial smirks on the faces of the guests as Rose mispronounces Galway Kinnell's name is juvenile and arrogant. I would say that this mere gesture disqualifies all of these "poets" from having anything of value to present to us. Pay close attention to the behavior of those you idolize - you will soon learn to separate the mundane from the holy.

@maunichyr

3 жыл бұрын

jeesus H. christ, sounds like someone forgot to put a little extra sugar in their morning coffee! I think they're just being polite by not correcting him and focusing on the interview, Mr. Negative Nancy. Sad!

@itstoogooditswaytoogood3211

2 жыл бұрын

wtf did i just read. take your meds

@ExcitedAnacondaSnake-hg8ec

6 ай бұрын

You sound judgmental and self righteous. Throwing your stones from your glass house. Anti intellectual, it’s no different than someone getting your friends name or a common word wrong I’m sure you smirked too.

@DebNKY

5 ай бұрын

If you think Ginsberg and Kinnell have nothing to teach you, you're beyond help.

@ExcitedAnacondaSnake-hg8ec

5 ай бұрын

Clearly motivated by resentment and insecurity. Sorry if intellect intimidates you. Instead of attacking them, humble yourself and learn from the great humans among us.

Whitman overrated grandiose and big silly boy.

@raoulwise1654

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure you're a better poet, right?

@truthlivingetc88

2 жыл бұрын

@@raoulwise1654 richy

@DebNKY

5 ай бұрын

​@cnazty6371 wow, I'm sorry you just don't get Beat poets. Very sad.

@DebNKY

5 ай бұрын

How can he be overrated?

@truthlivingetc88

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. I am often getting replies for the lots of foolish sniping that I habitually executed years ago here on KZread. I am a very jealous person and was raised by an authoritarian family. You look very wise. Could you possibly suggest ways in which I could get into poetry such that I could become a better person ? If this sounds ironic then the ironic vibe doesn`t seem to register consciously. I find Sharon Olds incredibly powerful. Compassionate. Emotional. Uplifting ! @@DebNKY