Seems like it’s her family who wants to isolate her
@shersxtrustx2864
22 күн бұрын
@@natatattful I do believe it doesn’t have to be only two options: brainwashed or family lying. I think there could be a third option she wanted to pursue religion and her family pushed her away and/or wanted her for themselves only. People rely on who said it first and say how her comments don’t line up but her family’s also don’t line up with hers. I think only they should be involved in this as we know nothing truly
@miss_bougie6653
17 күн бұрын
@@shersxtrustx2864 but it’s not just one family there we’re literal survivors who describe how that organisation isolated them and controlled/ruined their lives. Thats not what organised religion is supposed to do, everything the family and the survivors said sounds like a classic textbook cult.
@nuclearwessels2078
17 күн бұрын
@@shersxtrustx2864 I agree. Her family seems controlling and overbearing and could have pushed her towards Shinn. She might have been running away from her family. I hope she is around people who allow her to be free.
@amandat997423 күн бұрын
Her aggression and “explanation” say it all.
@Itsmeagain828
23 күн бұрын
What does it say? I would really like to know.
@98dannyj
23 күн бұрын
@@Itsmeagain828 It means she feels super pressured which just adds to the speculations...her behavior is odd
@yusrab1523
23 күн бұрын
@@Itsmeagain828 it says ur a dumbas if you can’t understand from ten minutes or two vids explaining
@derrickjuinor
23 күн бұрын
@@98dannyj I was hoping thered be any bad thing she did
@TheAustinMiracle
23 күн бұрын
After seeing the whole documentary and watching how he would mock every little thing that they would say bad about him and brainwash everybody in the room to believing that it was nonsense. I’m sure he probably made everybody watch that documentary when it first came out and brainwashed them into believing that it was an attack on their religion or something.
@kx_xx23 күн бұрын
“I just asked my family for a little space” They had to find out online that she got engaged and weren’t invited to her wedding “I wanted to keep our family issues private” She literally tried to TikTok live her first time seeing her family in years and their entire private family convo about wtf was going on
@Katinahat293
23 күн бұрын
YES! Exactly!
@darkblue4959
21 күн бұрын
that live tiktok from her meeting them was so weird, she acted like they wanted to hurt or kidnap her, that's beyond tbh, she's gone
@jaimyyelvingtonmusic
21 күн бұрын
Crazy
@yasminkovacs5006
19 күн бұрын
The delusion is wild
@nonamelarry23 күн бұрын
the devolution of someone’s psyche when they get involved in these types of organizations is insane.
@knightcool7769
23 күн бұрын
It’s truly insane
@meganhammond7186
23 күн бұрын
It takes an average of four days for a healthy human brain to be completely brainwashed.
@wendysmith2905
23 күн бұрын
Right?! It's obvious.
@derrickjuinor
23 күн бұрын
Its also very crazy
@aperal732
23 күн бұрын
When you're manipulated by fear, your psyche is no more!! Hope she get out
@alexfeene23 күн бұрын
It’s crazy how easy people get brainwashed
@someusername4129
23 күн бұрын
It's crazy that people think it's easily done. It's psychological manipulation.
@MorganVsTheInternet
23 күн бұрын
It’s not “easy” cults look for vulnerable people and use psychological manipulation like sleep deprivation and love booming to break them down!
@bloomtay
23 күн бұрын
It takes a lot of time to manipulate like this. The victims aren’t to blame they’re constantly confused
@SusanLynn656
23 күн бұрын
@@someusername4129I think the time it takes to brainwash someone depends on how vulnerable a person is and what types of abuse they have experienced in their lifetimes. But yes, it is a process. What’s sick is the love bombing when the victims believes they are truly cherished and loved. Unfortunately Miranda doesn’t understand that there’s a history of people being hurt by Robert Shinn.
@littleburps
23 күн бұрын
It’s not like you think. It happens so slyly and subtly that you don’t realize it. Nobody wants to be “brainwashed”.
@ellegrey1323 күн бұрын
On a side note, Those are some cringey ass tiktok dances omg. That should be a sin.
@16960734
23 күн бұрын
Amen
@hermosa_destino1622
23 күн бұрын
Thats exactly what i was thinking 🤢😬
@Medusa.356
23 күн бұрын
Horrible and super cringe
@BrownEyedChick
23 күн бұрын
It doesn’t help that they’ve been doing the same dance moves for years now
@WowJustWow37
23 күн бұрын
@@BrownEyedChickfr!!
@yelhsasokolova856123 күн бұрын
I'm willing to bet she isn't even allowed to watch the doc
@Atomicqueen9
23 күн бұрын
This
@yasminkovacs5006
19 күн бұрын
She’s not. An ex member said they have to ask to watch things.
@yasminkovacs5006
19 күн бұрын
Also they literally all said the exact same words about the doco: it was one sided (nope, we heard your pastors sermons lol).
@miss_bougie6653
17 күн бұрын
@@yasminkovacs5006 Just like Scientologists (the non-famous ones -Sea org members) they aren’t allowed to use internet
@lisaouthier7859
3 күн бұрын
Yes! And eventually he told them, you're gonna have to start seeing your family just so people won't talk... So sad
@hqgirl56723 күн бұрын
Why is this guy giving me Jodi and Ruby vibe
@krystinaxxlea
23 күн бұрын
If he had access to minors I'm sure he would have been very similar in their way of breaking people down
@SweetLala25
23 күн бұрын
OMG YES! I was just saying this lol. Another "connections" type of situation going on here. Thankfully there are no children...yet anyways.
@hqgirl567
23 күн бұрын
@@SweetLala25 there better not be kids involved! But fr a connections situation
@hqgirl567
23 күн бұрын
@@krystinaxxlea fr
@Joy_Boy_9623 күн бұрын
Her 'explanation' proves she's way to far gone and that's so fucking tragic but there's just no hope left for this women.
@wellnessinlifelaunion
23 күн бұрын
Her eyes show no soul...explanation..no emotion
@Ghostface199823 күн бұрын
Well she’s definitely not helping her case saying she isn’t a cult member
@TheNinjapancake14
23 күн бұрын
And people attacking her or telling her she’s in a cult isn’t helping either. How sad
@dalishrogue3621
23 күн бұрын
@@TheNinjapancake14there is no helping cult members, they have to find their marbles themselves but you can label something as dangerous and toxic to save others. She’s lost but we can keep others from getting lost too
@oxyjenn8089
23 күн бұрын
Lol what's she supposed to do? Admit it if she is? This is an example of no matter what they say no one is going to believe them, yet we've only heard one side, and everyone is assuming everything that documentary said is true. They're going through lawsuits, so they can't speak yet. Maybe we wait and give them a chance before just jumping on the, they're in a cult! bandwagon???
@derrickjuinor
23 күн бұрын
She clearly hasnt done anything to make herself a cult member. shes just getting hate for no reason whatsoever by others
@AlyRaeKY
23 күн бұрын
I don't understand. You don't just cut off your family members and act this way. It's a duck. Quack Quack.
@knightcool776923 күн бұрын
The audio recordings of Pastor Robert in the church is damning. Telling your flock to ‘die to your family’😅
@user-xb5xv2wu2t
23 күн бұрын
Hallelujah...😶😶
@awildaperez9349
19 күн бұрын
😅😅😅
@awildaperez9349
19 күн бұрын
Miranda is a narcissist, and she's loves this weird attention. Don't feel bad. Let's all leave her alone and stop liking her content. The
@pmg-122 күн бұрын
Robert asking for 30% of their salaries "in the name of god" is a huge red flag...
@nerdythespian121223 күн бұрын
Cult deprogramming is TOUGH and can’t be forced. I hope she gets out, but sending hate to her (and other members) is not how you get someone out of a cult.
@elsavillarreal7952
20 күн бұрын
This, I don’t think this documentary was a good idea. I think the parents maybe pushed her into the arms of the cult more. I am Christian and I can tell when certain churches are OFF. & I am Pentecostal, no church should ever force members of anything ever! When a church is asking for complete control of your time and finances that’s a cult. The atrocities some people are doing in the name of God are absolutely appalling. I hope Miranda gets out and lives her own life. There is something about the family too. I think they are also very controlling of her that’s why she just chose some other group to control her. That’s why she sees that as normal.
@cloudsofjoi
20 күн бұрын
exactly
@cloudsofjoi
20 күн бұрын
@@elsavillarreal7952yeah i agree
@MsKJackson831
18 күн бұрын
@elsavillarreal7952 Totally agree. It's sad but the best thing for them to do may just be to let her know they're there when she's ready. It's like when you tell someone they can't do something and it makes them dig their heels in and want it even more
@miss_bougie6653
17 күн бұрын
@@elsavillarreal7952 It may have a negative effect on her but it’s ALWAYS a good idea for the greater good and for younger generations that these organisations be exposed because they thrive when they get to operate in secrecy.
@avocado665923 күн бұрын
The fact that she didn’t address the other matters in the documentary such as the SA, the past cult members coming out to call the cult out, and everything else is very telling.
@j.a.9085
20 күн бұрын
Very true, it is very telling for many reasons, one main thing that it shows is that the only real purpose of her message was to "prove" that none of the behaviors are because she's in a cult (manage her and the cult's image basically). No doubt the cult leader at least oversaw if not totally wrote that message and Cluster b personalities (all cult leaders) often unknowingly give away the truth by what they DON'T say or by what they choose to address vs what they never address.
@kaitlincornell215123 күн бұрын
They’re victims but you can’t force someone to understand that. They have to have an open mind to hear it and sadly she doesn’t have it. I hope the family will never stop trying to get her back or all the other families because this is sad :/
@hevand_co
23 күн бұрын
It is sad cause she's a grown woman who from all accounts came from a good family(it's usually people who have gone through trauma of some sort who get brainwashed as adults, then again maybe she did have trauma and her family life just looked perfect?!)
@kaitlincornell2151
23 күн бұрын
@@hevand_co It also doesn't help with social media having a play into this. It makes it more vocal to everyone, not just the people involved but everyone. She could easily say that people are attacking her and she can see herself as a victim in all of this. I feel bad for the families and the people who are brainwashed
@hevand_co
23 күн бұрын
@@kaitlincornell2151 oh yea I hear you, I agree with you totally, your original comment makes alot of sense & social media has made people soo very self absorbed it's ridiculous, and the fakery, I don't believe half of what I hear or see, that's why I'm not sure if she's had some kinda trauma as it's all flowers and roses whilst the camera is rolling then their lives are as non sholont as ours lol, it makes such beautiful young girls soo insecure and jealous and look what's going on with Miranda, blows my mind, I do have sympathy though & your comment resonated with me but I also feel she's liking the attention somehow & like I stated she's a grown woman!
@nessa007productions23 күн бұрын
I watched the documentary last night and my heart breaks for Miranda’s family. They just want their daughter/sister back. It’s really scary how brainwashed people can get by cults and not even realise it. I’m happy for those who were part of the cult but got out quickly when they realised how weird and shady the leader really is.
@WowJustWow37
23 күн бұрын
I saw it too. I’m glad her sister is allowing herself to heal and let go. But dang…I cried imagining my sister being alive and ignoring me 😢
@DeannThomas-le2ut
17 күн бұрын
Please check out WHO pitched and produced this Documentary; YOU realize Melanie locked Miranda out of their TIK TOK account PRIOR to her signing up with 7M? Miranda is the better dancer, getting more attention. ON TIK TOK They had well over 1million subscribers and a ton of sponsors. MELANIE LOCKED MIRANDA out taking control of their content AND MONEY. THIS means Miranda was left penniless without a way to earn income or produce content which is what lead to a fight and bad feelings in the family. This is THE CAUSE OF WHY Miranda JOINED 7M. Her family sided with MELANIE, they wouldn’t give her access or her content or money, she had to work, the offer came and she took it. WHY do YOU thinks these people starred in this documentary and HELPED PITCH IT TO NETFLIX?
@WowJustWow37
17 күн бұрын
@@DeannThomas-le2ut is this the Pastor? 👀
@nuclearwessels2078
17 күн бұрын
@@WowJustWow37Nope. It could be someone who has been a victim of narcissistic family.
@WowJustWow37
17 күн бұрын
@@nuclearwessels2078 hmm. Whatever the case, I wish Miranda safety and well being. And I hope she gets her money for doing all that hard work!
@nataliemohr424123 күн бұрын
Says the documentary is one sided… well yeah, everyone on your side declined to comment… what do you expect?
@m.nikkie94623 күн бұрын
Her being a part of this organization w/ her husband is going to make it that much harder for her to leave if she wanted to ...
@Wtfamidoing297023 күн бұрын
It absolutely disgusts me that they weren’t able to make a case after the first victim of SA came forward, and were instead told they needed more victims to come forward. So essentially we are back to the Larry Nassar case again where they didn’t do a single thing until hundreds of women came forward. Unreal.
@fromdenisse23 күн бұрын
Her statement is so telling... didn't help her case at all
@NicoleMaguire23 күн бұрын
It's so weird to me that she gives her written statement but talks to intro it. It seems very weird.
@NicoleMaguire
23 күн бұрын
She could have read the written statement if it was a legal thing.
@upandadams951122 күн бұрын
He is not her husband. He’s her handler making sure she stays in line. I was “married” to one of those too. Her family will never see her without him within earshot/line of sight.
@Silvernite23 күн бұрын
I heard about this guy years ago from a family member with clients and friends in the entertainment industry. The stories that were passed around absolutely gave me the chills.
@tokhote
23 күн бұрын
Cool vague statement 👍🏼
@WowJustWow37
23 күн бұрын
@@tokhoteI’ve heard some insane stories about big names. No one believed me, and now what I said is mainstream news. I get why this comment is vague.
@camrynhauler366023 күн бұрын
This is giving scientology, so scary!
@Eaviladesigns23 күн бұрын
This is hard because I was in a cult and my answers during the time of being in “the church” sounded EXACTLY like this response. The only way I have ever heard to get family back is just time. It has to be Miranda that wakes up at some point and the cult will do anything to shame her and guilt her away from the truth.
@j.a.9085
20 күн бұрын
@Eaviladesigns may I ask what caused you to finally start seeing the cult for what it truly was?
@cali.girllivinnnevada823 күн бұрын
Well, yeah, of course it’s a one-sided story because you and all of your *cult members* won’t speak on anything!!
@icecreamsandwich855122 күн бұрын
If she has to “die to her family” then why doesn’t she have to do that to her current husband????
@teresawhite4427
5 күн бұрын
“Die to Yourself” The teaching Robert Shinn teaches his followers to cut off their family to save them from hell. It applies to families that are not members of this Shekinah church. Her husband is a member of the church.
@selcouthrae109523 күн бұрын
She legit told on herself in her statement & you can tell by how defensive and more she is and certain words she uses is just straight saying that girl is brainwashed and lying to herself making up more lies to try to look like her family is bad when she's legit being controlled what to say. I hope they loose their lawsuit and the company gets shut down.
@UtaPriChorus23 күн бұрын
I believe her when she says she is following God and walking with Jesus. But I hope she is able to realize that she can still have a relationship with God while walking away from that church and finding a new home. A church can’t glorify secular things. And that is what He is doing. That’s all I need to know, to know that he is walking in greed. His company Doesn’t a line with the Bible. But I believed her intentions are pure. Sick people twist the word of God and take advantage of people who are seeking a change and help.
@TheNinjapancake14
23 күн бұрын
❤️❤️❤️ God is the way, not this arrogant, greedy man they follow
@girlycow30
23 күн бұрын
I believe she was given the wrong impression of walking with Jesus. What she is doing & listening to isn’t the way.
@ThelmaSky1992
23 күн бұрын
Not the way she's following God... she thinks the pastor is God like and that's already wrong
@ariellelillian8644
23 күн бұрын
What’s sad is you can tell that she does not separate this man from her faith and never diversifies them when she speaks. She never addresses him and her relationship with him, only her relationship with her faith and her church. That’s where it gets dangerous. She could have every real intention of following a faith that gives her fulfillment and a sense of purpose, but she may not see that the person leading her is also taking advantage of her. Best wishes to her and her family, truly.
@elsavillarreal7952
20 күн бұрын
This girl this, I just kept praying to God when I was watching the documentary. I feel so bad for all the ill intent churches out there exploiting God’s children. Miranda needs a lot of support and a real friend to tell her the truth so she can be set free and live a normal healthy life.
@paulaarosee23 күн бұрын
you don’t just switch up on your family randomly like that, cult shit for sure
@Captain_Crusade23 күн бұрын
The doc was crazy to watch. Hope the victims get justice
@littleburps23 күн бұрын
I found myself in a cult and took me almost 12yrs to realize and finally leave. When I was “in deep” and wouldn’t hear truth, I responded how she did. You cannot force someone to see something that they don’t want to. You have to love them and be in the sidelines, waiting for the moment they realize they’ve been lied and taken advantage of. That moment will inevitably come and she will need somebody to catch her like I did.
@brittkamper71319 күн бұрын
She smiles and dances but looks so cold , tensed and hatefull .
@wiliwillow555523 күн бұрын
All of this is so sad. I genuinely hope everyone in this situation eventually finds peace.
@sharamusica23 күн бұрын
It’s a total cult
@Katinahat29323 күн бұрын
Her response tells us all that the documentary portrayed the truth.
@tmamone8323 күн бұрын
The 7M thing sounds like a real life "The Idol."
@Hereallthetime22 күн бұрын
Tbh watching the documentary and now her response I have to say she’s in too deep. The thing with cults is that they are similar to abusive relationships, it will take you a while to leave and by then you have done some serious damage to yourself. Take Prycisla for example, it was hard on her self esteem and her relationship with her sister plus the guilt/loss of time and what could have been. Miranda probably looked like an easy target that’s why he choose her and made her marry so she can’t escape if she wants to. The whole statement screams like it was written by someone else.
@antheorium23 күн бұрын
The unfortunate thing, if this is true, is that the negative backlash will only make cult members believe their leader even more. It's like trying to tell someone that another person is the bad person by talking terribly about them- you just come off as the malicious one and the bad person ends up looking like a victim.
@amberpadilla6463
23 күн бұрын
This is probably true but at least it helps to deter others for falling for the same thing. Because we know so much about Scientology for instance there are fewer new members.
@Everyday_Armyyyy23 күн бұрын
That’s why you don’t try and save someone that doesn’t want to be saved she probably works with the creator of the management company or has a secret she doesn’t want revealed cause how can one be so dumb and turn from their family smh
@Ashbrash1998
23 күн бұрын
I think they can attempt to save her but can't force it. Talking in the doc and spreading awareness cane help others
@Everyday_Armyyyy
21 күн бұрын
@@Ashbrash1998 Yh but they’ve already tried she doesn’t want to be saved
@nicolettegeiger367822 күн бұрын
I was shocked because I watch some of these dancers if they pop up n my feed
@itsgeorgiexo23 күн бұрын
She looks terrified at all times 😅
@brittyychampion702223 күн бұрын
The cult leader literally forced them to see family after he was called out. A lot of members started to realize it may have actually been.
@KittyJay9723 күн бұрын
Based on the documentary this is the complete opposite of what was said, I feel like she definitely didn't not write that or watch it
@kyliesloan680423 күн бұрын
Just finished this documentary! This stuff is crazy & sad.
@siena224823 күн бұрын
Overall, I just feel so bad for the family and I hope that when this saga ends everyone is able to find their peace and healing. Unfortunately, I know that’s not how these things often end and thank you so much for covering this topic💕💖
@lifewithklc23 күн бұрын
At this point, she’s an adult. Just be there if she ever leaves. 🤷🏾♀️
@cocosmom285223 күн бұрын
People should just not support her at all leave her to her own and loose all the $ and attention then see what happens just keep up through her sister or family smh 🤦🏼♀️ she really is crazy af and manipulative also Imo so horrible the way she is trying to throw them under the bus for these other people smh ! Her sister was right logging her out I hope she doesn’t let her in , smh she’s so out of it
@ThatguyJoshman23 күн бұрын
Cults use the same playbook and it boggles my mind how people keep falling for them
@bradleonn23 күн бұрын
It still sounds like a cult 😬
@DANiCL4WS23 күн бұрын
the funeral being a month and a half after her papa passed away is strange
@emilyanderson7895
23 күн бұрын
During the panini it took a really long time for funerals to happen. It took like four or five weeks to get my Nana’s funeral planned during that time 😢
@kayla211923 күн бұрын
I’m confused bc didn’t her family say she didn’t go to her father’s funeral because she called before she was supposed to get on the plane and said she had Covid in the documentary?? Edit: Sorry miss heard the grandfather not dad
@orangepencil7
23 күн бұрын
I saw a different video covering this topic. Iirc, the sister said that the month before the funeral both of them had COVID at around the same time. When Miranda said that she had COVID again, Melanie said that she found it strange so she called her up. Miranda admitted that she didn't actually have COVID and wasn't going to the funeral for other reasons
@christinagriz3736
23 күн бұрын
Her grandfathers funeral
@kayleethompson5244
23 күн бұрын
It was the grandfather not the dad
@Glm867
23 күн бұрын
It was her Grandfather’s funeral ❤
@ItsStephanieMarie1323 күн бұрын
It's absolutely insane how people can literally take over someone's entire mind and life and it actually doesn't take that long to do. It's terrifying.
@TheNinjapancake1423 күн бұрын
Praying for the truth to see the light, and that the victims truly reunite with their families
@Anon2954723 күн бұрын
She’s distracting from the situation and blaming her family. Funny thing is tiktok will be banned, good luck with that Tik tok dancing career.
@DeannThomas-le2ut
17 күн бұрын
Please check out WHO pitched and produced this Documentary; YOU realize Melanie locked Miranda out of their TIK TOK account PRIOR to her signing up with 7M? Miranda is the better dancer, getting more attention. ON TIK TOK They had well over 1million subscribers and a ton of sponsors. MELANIE LOCKED MIRANDA out taking control of their content AND MONEY. THIS means Miranda was left penniless without a way to earn income or produce content which is what lead to a fight and bad feelings in the family. This is THE CAUSE OF WHY Miranda JOINED 7M. Her family sided with MELANIE, they wouldn’t give her access or her content or money, she had to work, the offer came and she took it. WHY do YOU thinks these people starred in this documentary and HELPED PITCH IT TO NETFLIX?
@teresawhite4427
5 күн бұрын
@DeannThomas-le2ut Are you Miranda herself or one of the Shinns?
@cocosmom285223 күн бұрын
People really loose the plot because they simply just can’t admit to being wrong and it’s sad people really be prisoners to their own egos
@juliaholzschuher23 күн бұрын
What’s sad is that one of the boys from August Moon from the new movie The Idea of You is in this
@IllaLuna17
23 күн бұрын
Nooo way!
@Gilliangg23 күн бұрын
Her in the first shot dancing in the gold dress. I remember showing that to my boyfriend and complimenting her dancing skills but that the chemistry between the two were so off
@heatherg129623 күн бұрын
This genuinely sounds like a black mirror episode, but it's our real world. The rise of tikok and influencers profits from it has been so wild.
@sydneysovern23 күн бұрын
Dying to know what statements she’s saying are defamatory
@DeannThomas-le2ut
17 күн бұрын
Look up the courts documents they are ONLINE you can go read of the the defamation case.
@prongssupremacy21 күн бұрын
her subtly BLAMING her sister for her grandpa's DEATH???????????
@DeannThomas-le2ut
17 күн бұрын
Please check out WHO pitched and produced this Documentary; YOU realize Melanie locked Miranda out of their TIK TOK account PRIOR to her signing up with 7M? Miranda is the better dancer, getting more attention. ON TIK TOK They had well over 1million subscribers and a ton of sponsors. MELANIE LOCKED MIRANDA out taking control of their content AND MONEY. THIS means Miranda was left penniless without a way to earn income or produce content which is what lead to a fight and bad feelings in the family. This is THE CAUSE OF WHY Miranda JOINED 7M. Her family sided with MELANIE, they wouldn’t give her access or her content or money, she had to work, the offer came and she took it. WHY do YOU thinks these people starred in this documentary and HELPED PITCH IT TO NETFLIX?
@prongssupremacy
16 күн бұрын
@@DeannThomas-le2ut i aint reading allat🥸
@teresawhite4427
5 күн бұрын
@@DeannThomas-le2ut Are you Miranda herself or a Shinn?
@ironcowgirlbree23 күн бұрын
At this point...imo she WANTS to be in the Cult! She doesn't want to lose what she has!!
@mdelonas23 күн бұрын
I'm so invested
@scarlettwinters564222 күн бұрын
There is no way she’s seen it and I’m doubting anyone is being supportive. Her eyes are just dead
@simplymonca22 күн бұрын
Oh, man.. she’s GONE gone.. 😓
@Olivia-zz2gr23 күн бұрын
As much as it does suck, at the end of the day she is an adult and can make her own choices. It is not illegal
@itsskiffy
23 күн бұрын
That part.
@evamariepoon754823 күн бұрын
They will only wake up when people stop supporting them and Robert does not earn from them anymore.
@TessMac23 күн бұрын
It’s all so sad. It’s also scary. The Chad Daybell trial just ended with 4 deaths & countless others broken after almost 5 years.. Because Chad like Robert Shin claimed he spoke for God. I hope & pray this situation doesn’t escalate to cause more loss for all involved. Including the dancers & members of the “church”. (I put church in quotes as I’ve been to MANY churches in my lifetime & NONE asked for an NDA or a 30% tithe.)
@laylapearson23 күн бұрын
People don’t understand how cults/abusers affect a person. How “strong” a person’s morals are have _nothing_ to do with how easily they can be manipulated or their ability to leave. Attacking them *absolutely* makes things worse. There is no person who is immune to this kind of manipulation. That’s just not how human brains work; everyone is susceptible. Strength of will or character has nothing to do with it.
@Sweetliltulip21 күн бұрын
So question, is it legal for him to only represent clients that are part of his Chruch?
@AllergicToSun23 күн бұрын
3:41 one sided ? I heard the current members were reached out to on social media for their side of the story. no response was given.
@donaldjohnson-ow3kq23 күн бұрын
I thought TikTok itself was the cult
@opumpkinn22 күн бұрын
Giving me Scientology vibes when members of the cult can’t talk to their own family that’s an “outsider”
@terribellettini45022 күн бұрын
She seems so off, even when she dances there’s they hard expressions on her face. She seems very cold and unhappy.
@Ashbrash199823 күн бұрын
Her statement doesn't really make sense, she keeps in contact and wants them a part of her life. BUT details how threatened she was by them and fears she would be held against her will by her family... like it'a confusing
@rl381019 күн бұрын
If it talks like a cult and walks like a cult...Now that it's been called out so publicly every member is in danger.
@mommafirst677711 күн бұрын
And he'll get away with it. Sounds a lot like Scientology
@Steph-41223 күн бұрын
She's in extremely deep and it's going to take some serious deprogramming and a miracle for her to realize that. To put things into perspective, the brainwashing that some cult victims endure is so intense, they can be convinced to take their own lives. This is the kind of control and influence cult leaders have on their victims. I hope she is saved, and soon.
@JoanOwen-nl8vd23 күн бұрын
Love your perspective, it's like a breath of fresh air in a sea of sameness.
@NicoleBentley-xv5il23 күн бұрын
Shes already writing letters like scientology lol i want to see her start saying what she feels not a note
@keriwalker386121 күн бұрын
Oh how I hope they come to realize what’s being done to them by that man!!!!!
@Lanaaaaa4521 күн бұрын
Oh this is definitely cult talk like they were talking about in the doc. Really hoping shes able to break free
@brittaniereed503123 күн бұрын
I’m so happy this is getting more attention!!!!
@starwilde425223 күн бұрын
She has them crazy eyes 👀
@VERAAUSTRALIA18 күн бұрын
The doc speaks for itself so many allegations and so much evidence!! Justice is coming, and the Dance for Devil clock is ticking!!
@patriciaeb132021 күн бұрын
Her family ought to forbid her from taking any photos nor videos while she’s with them. Defeats Robert’s purposes.
@katilyn319 күн бұрын
I kind of feel like if a bunch of people think you're in a cult, you're probably in a cult.
@wendysmith290523 күн бұрын
I love that you are ALL over this. Thank you!
@hannahaill70322 күн бұрын
She’s probably just as deep in this a Robert, she has to be reaping some of the financial benefits for her to stay this loyal to a man that is abusing people.
@mommafirst677711 күн бұрын
The fact that this church is in LA. THAT'S ENOUGH RIGHT THERE!!! That it's not a church
@nicolettegeiger367822 күн бұрын
I feel the craziest part of this is that BOTH Wilking sisters attended the church to start with but just one was brainwashed. Would both be had the younger sister not need to go to airport? Also the other set of sisters how both were members however one got out years before the other did.
@sophiamaria298523 күн бұрын
When I was that age, I just wanted to be free of my family. The more they chased the more I ran. I eventually came back after my boundaries were respected for a year or two.
@Devopossum-se5jj18 күн бұрын
I would think she hasn’t seen the doc because she’s very likely not allowed to.
@sharihazlett377423 күн бұрын
I don't criticize the dancers. Robert, yes. He is evil. I hope that companies drop any jobs with the group. Take away the $$$$.
@msalisha14523 күн бұрын
honestly at this point. leave her be... she clearly does not want anything to do with her fam
@NicoleBentley-xv5il
23 күн бұрын
Cults are like scams
@hellogorgeous10117 күн бұрын
I blame a large part of this on the boyfriend/ husband as he got sucked in first and then she fell for it too. It’s all so sad and frustrating to see.
@LittlePotatoRoll23 күн бұрын
99% of the content on tik tok is so cringe & abysmal. I literally dont understand how people enjoy it. 🤢
@supernova6194
23 күн бұрын
This. The cringe is cringing
@ellegrey13
23 күн бұрын
Lmaoo saaame😂 that's why I am not even on tiktok because if I see these "dances" pop up everyday everywhere on tiktok, I feel like I would wanna throw myself out of a tall building. God it's so damn cringey,... the taste these tiktok people have is terrible.
@NicoleBentley-xv5il23 күн бұрын
When theres an entire documentary about you being in the cult and the entire USA is watching it play out in real time. I pray for these 7m people to run!!!!!
@sunshinemagicalrainbowunic400420 күн бұрын
Uhhh why don’t they ask her how many massages she’s given Robert?
@3cords_1braid23 күн бұрын
How much of a percentage is she giving 7M and the church? Something tells me she’s staying around for the money.
@dalishrogue3621
23 күн бұрын
What money lol everything goes to the church I bet
@teresawhite4427
5 күн бұрын
As one former dancer explained, they call it ten, ten, ten. 30% off the top of their earnings. They live in 7M/Shekinah church owned homes that they also have to pay rent to 7M/Shekinah. Another former dancer claimed upwards of 70% of his earnings went to 7M/Shekinah church. Netflix docu Dancing for the Devil.
Пікірлер: 400
The minute anyone tries to isolate you, RUN.
@natatattful
23 күн бұрын
Seems like it’s her family who wants to isolate her
@shersxtrustx2864
22 күн бұрын
@@natatattful I do believe it doesn’t have to be only two options: brainwashed or family lying. I think there could be a third option she wanted to pursue religion and her family pushed her away and/or wanted her for themselves only. People rely on who said it first and say how her comments don’t line up but her family’s also don’t line up with hers. I think only they should be involved in this as we know nothing truly
@miss_bougie6653
17 күн бұрын
@@shersxtrustx2864 but it’s not just one family there we’re literal survivors who describe how that organisation isolated them and controlled/ruined their lives. Thats not what organised religion is supposed to do, everything the family and the survivors said sounds like a classic textbook cult.
@nuclearwessels2078
17 күн бұрын
@@shersxtrustx2864 I agree. Her family seems controlling and overbearing and could have pushed her towards Shinn. She might have been running away from her family. I hope she is around people who allow her to be free.
Her aggression and “explanation” say it all.
@Itsmeagain828
23 күн бұрын
What does it say? I would really like to know.
@98dannyj
23 күн бұрын
@@Itsmeagain828 It means she feels super pressured which just adds to the speculations...her behavior is odd
@yusrab1523
23 күн бұрын
@@Itsmeagain828 it says ur a dumbas if you can’t understand from ten minutes or two vids explaining
@derrickjuinor
23 күн бұрын
@@98dannyj I was hoping thered be any bad thing she did
@TheAustinMiracle
23 күн бұрын
After seeing the whole documentary and watching how he would mock every little thing that they would say bad about him and brainwash everybody in the room to believing that it was nonsense. I’m sure he probably made everybody watch that documentary when it first came out and brainwashed them into believing that it was an attack on their religion or something.
“I just asked my family for a little space” They had to find out online that she got engaged and weren’t invited to her wedding “I wanted to keep our family issues private” She literally tried to TikTok live her first time seeing her family in years and their entire private family convo about wtf was going on
@Katinahat293
23 күн бұрын
YES! Exactly!
@darkblue4959
21 күн бұрын
that live tiktok from her meeting them was so weird, she acted like they wanted to hurt or kidnap her, that's beyond tbh, she's gone
@jaimyyelvingtonmusic
21 күн бұрын
Crazy
@yasminkovacs5006
19 күн бұрын
The delusion is wild
the devolution of someone’s psyche when they get involved in these types of organizations is insane.
@knightcool7769
23 күн бұрын
It’s truly insane
@meganhammond7186
23 күн бұрын
It takes an average of four days for a healthy human brain to be completely brainwashed.
@wendysmith2905
23 күн бұрын
Right?! It's obvious.
@derrickjuinor
23 күн бұрын
Its also very crazy
@aperal732
23 күн бұрын
When you're manipulated by fear, your psyche is no more!! Hope she get out
It’s crazy how easy people get brainwashed
@someusername4129
23 күн бұрын
It's crazy that people think it's easily done. It's psychological manipulation.
@MorganVsTheInternet
23 күн бұрын
It’s not “easy” cults look for vulnerable people and use psychological manipulation like sleep deprivation and love booming to break them down!
@bloomtay
23 күн бұрын
It takes a lot of time to manipulate like this. The victims aren’t to blame they’re constantly confused
@SusanLynn656
23 күн бұрын
@@someusername4129I think the time it takes to brainwash someone depends on how vulnerable a person is and what types of abuse they have experienced in their lifetimes. But yes, it is a process. What’s sick is the love bombing when the victims believes they are truly cherished and loved. Unfortunately Miranda doesn’t understand that there’s a history of people being hurt by Robert Shinn.
@littleburps
23 күн бұрын
It’s not like you think. It happens so slyly and subtly that you don’t realize it. Nobody wants to be “brainwashed”.
On a side note, Those are some cringey ass tiktok dances omg. That should be a sin.
@16960734
23 күн бұрын
Amen
@hermosa_destino1622
23 күн бұрын
Thats exactly what i was thinking 🤢😬
@Medusa.356
23 күн бұрын
Horrible and super cringe
@BrownEyedChick
23 күн бұрын
It doesn’t help that they’ve been doing the same dance moves for years now
@WowJustWow37
23 күн бұрын
@@BrownEyedChickfr!!
I'm willing to bet she isn't even allowed to watch the doc
@Atomicqueen9
23 күн бұрын
This
@yasminkovacs5006
19 күн бұрын
She’s not. An ex member said they have to ask to watch things.
@yasminkovacs5006
19 күн бұрын
Also they literally all said the exact same words about the doco: it was one sided (nope, we heard your pastors sermons lol).
@miss_bougie6653
17 күн бұрын
@@yasminkovacs5006 Just like Scientologists (the non-famous ones -Sea org members) they aren’t allowed to use internet
@lisaouthier7859
3 күн бұрын
Yes! And eventually he told them, you're gonna have to start seeing your family just so people won't talk... So sad
Why is this guy giving me Jodi and Ruby vibe
@krystinaxxlea
23 күн бұрын
If he had access to minors I'm sure he would have been very similar in their way of breaking people down
@SweetLala25
23 күн бұрын
OMG YES! I was just saying this lol. Another "connections" type of situation going on here. Thankfully there are no children...yet anyways.
@hqgirl567
23 күн бұрын
@@SweetLala25 there better not be kids involved! But fr a connections situation
@hqgirl567
23 күн бұрын
@@krystinaxxlea fr
Her 'explanation' proves she's way to far gone and that's so fucking tragic but there's just no hope left for this women.
@wellnessinlifelaunion
23 күн бұрын
Her eyes show no soul...explanation..no emotion
Well she’s definitely not helping her case saying she isn’t a cult member
@TheNinjapancake14
23 күн бұрын
And people attacking her or telling her she’s in a cult isn’t helping either. How sad
@dalishrogue3621
23 күн бұрын
@@TheNinjapancake14there is no helping cult members, they have to find their marbles themselves but you can label something as dangerous and toxic to save others. She’s lost but we can keep others from getting lost too
@oxyjenn8089
23 күн бұрын
Lol what's she supposed to do? Admit it if she is? This is an example of no matter what they say no one is going to believe them, yet we've only heard one side, and everyone is assuming everything that documentary said is true. They're going through lawsuits, so they can't speak yet. Maybe we wait and give them a chance before just jumping on the, they're in a cult! bandwagon???
@derrickjuinor
23 күн бұрын
She clearly hasnt done anything to make herself a cult member. shes just getting hate for no reason whatsoever by others
@AlyRaeKY
23 күн бұрын
I don't understand. You don't just cut off your family members and act this way. It's a duck. Quack Quack.
The audio recordings of Pastor Robert in the church is damning. Telling your flock to ‘die to your family’😅
@user-xb5xv2wu2t
23 күн бұрын
Hallelujah...😶😶
@awildaperez9349
19 күн бұрын
😅😅😅
@awildaperez9349
19 күн бұрын
Miranda is a narcissist, and she's loves this weird attention. Don't feel bad. Let's all leave her alone and stop liking her content. The
Robert asking for 30% of their salaries "in the name of god" is a huge red flag...
Cult deprogramming is TOUGH and can’t be forced. I hope she gets out, but sending hate to her (and other members) is not how you get someone out of a cult.
@elsavillarreal7952
20 күн бұрын
This, I don’t think this documentary was a good idea. I think the parents maybe pushed her into the arms of the cult more. I am Christian and I can tell when certain churches are OFF. & I am Pentecostal, no church should ever force members of anything ever! When a church is asking for complete control of your time and finances that’s a cult. The atrocities some people are doing in the name of God are absolutely appalling. I hope Miranda gets out and lives her own life. There is something about the family too. I think they are also very controlling of her that’s why she just chose some other group to control her. That’s why she sees that as normal.
@cloudsofjoi
20 күн бұрын
exactly
@cloudsofjoi
20 күн бұрын
@@elsavillarreal7952yeah i agree
@MsKJackson831
18 күн бұрын
@elsavillarreal7952 Totally agree. It's sad but the best thing for them to do may just be to let her know they're there when she's ready. It's like when you tell someone they can't do something and it makes them dig their heels in and want it even more
@miss_bougie6653
17 күн бұрын
@@elsavillarreal7952 It may have a negative effect on her but it’s ALWAYS a good idea for the greater good and for younger generations that these organisations be exposed because they thrive when they get to operate in secrecy.
The fact that she didn’t address the other matters in the documentary such as the SA, the past cult members coming out to call the cult out, and everything else is very telling.
@j.a.9085
20 күн бұрын
Very true, it is very telling for many reasons, one main thing that it shows is that the only real purpose of her message was to "prove" that none of the behaviors are because she's in a cult (manage her and the cult's image basically). No doubt the cult leader at least oversaw if not totally wrote that message and Cluster b personalities (all cult leaders) often unknowingly give away the truth by what they DON'T say or by what they choose to address vs what they never address.
They’re victims but you can’t force someone to understand that. They have to have an open mind to hear it and sadly she doesn’t have it. I hope the family will never stop trying to get her back or all the other families because this is sad :/
@hevand_co
23 күн бұрын
It is sad cause she's a grown woman who from all accounts came from a good family(it's usually people who have gone through trauma of some sort who get brainwashed as adults, then again maybe she did have trauma and her family life just looked perfect?!)
@kaitlincornell2151
23 күн бұрын
@@hevand_co It also doesn't help with social media having a play into this. It makes it more vocal to everyone, not just the people involved but everyone. She could easily say that people are attacking her and she can see herself as a victim in all of this. I feel bad for the families and the people who are brainwashed
@hevand_co
23 күн бұрын
@@kaitlincornell2151 oh yea I hear you, I agree with you totally, your original comment makes alot of sense & social media has made people soo very self absorbed it's ridiculous, and the fakery, I don't believe half of what I hear or see, that's why I'm not sure if she's had some kinda trauma as it's all flowers and roses whilst the camera is rolling then their lives are as non sholont as ours lol, it makes such beautiful young girls soo insecure and jealous and look what's going on with Miranda, blows my mind, I do have sympathy though & your comment resonated with me but I also feel she's liking the attention somehow & like I stated she's a grown woman!
I watched the documentary last night and my heart breaks for Miranda’s family. They just want their daughter/sister back. It’s really scary how brainwashed people can get by cults and not even realise it. I’m happy for those who were part of the cult but got out quickly when they realised how weird and shady the leader really is.
@WowJustWow37
23 күн бұрын
I saw it too. I’m glad her sister is allowing herself to heal and let go. But dang…I cried imagining my sister being alive and ignoring me 😢
@DeannThomas-le2ut
17 күн бұрын
Please check out WHO pitched and produced this Documentary; YOU realize Melanie locked Miranda out of their TIK TOK account PRIOR to her signing up with 7M? Miranda is the better dancer, getting more attention. ON TIK TOK They had well over 1million subscribers and a ton of sponsors. MELANIE LOCKED MIRANDA out taking control of their content AND MONEY. THIS means Miranda was left penniless without a way to earn income or produce content which is what lead to a fight and bad feelings in the family. This is THE CAUSE OF WHY Miranda JOINED 7M. Her family sided with MELANIE, they wouldn’t give her access or her content or money, she had to work, the offer came and she took it. WHY do YOU thinks these people starred in this documentary and HELPED PITCH IT TO NETFLIX?
@WowJustWow37
17 күн бұрын
@@DeannThomas-le2ut is this the Pastor? 👀
@nuclearwessels2078
17 күн бұрын
@@WowJustWow37Nope. It could be someone who has been a victim of narcissistic family.
@WowJustWow37
17 күн бұрын
@@nuclearwessels2078 hmm. Whatever the case, I wish Miranda safety and well being. And I hope she gets her money for doing all that hard work!
Says the documentary is one sided… well yeah, everyone on your side declined to comment… what do you expect?
Her being a part of this organization w/ her husband is going to make it that much harder for her to leave if she wanted to ...
It absolutely disgusts me that they weren’t able to make a case after the first victim of SA came forward, and were instead told they needed more victims to come forward. So essentially we are back to the Larry Nassar case again where they didn’t do a single thing until hundreds of women came forward. Unreal.
Her statement is so telling... didn't help her case at all
It's so weird to me that she gives her written statement but talks to intro it. It seems very weird.
@NicoleMaguire
23 күн бұрын
She could have read the written statement if it was a legal thing.
He is not her husband. He’s her handler making sure she stays in line. I was “married” to one of those too. Her family will never see her without him within earshot/line of sight.
I heard about this guy years ago from a family member with clients and friends in the entertainment industry. The stories that were passed around absolutely gave me the chills.
@tokhote
23 күн бұрын
Cool vague statement 👍🏼
@WowJustWow37
23 күн бұрын
@@tokhoteI’ve heard some insane stories about big names. No one believed me, and now what I said is mainstream news. I get why this comment is vague.
This is giving scientology, so scary!
This is hard because I was in a cult and my answers during the time of being in “the church” sounded EXACTLY like this response. The only way I have ever heard to get family back is just time. It has to be Miranda that wakes up at some point and the cult will do anything to shame her and guilt her away from the truth.
@j.a.9085
20 күн бұрын
@Eaviladesigns may I ask what caused you to finally start seeing the cult for what it truly was?
Well, yeah, of course it’s a one-sided story because you and all of your *cult members* won’t speak on anything!!
If she has to “die to her family” then why doesn’t she have to do that to her current husband????
@teresawhite4427
5 күн бұрын
“Die to Yourself” The teaching Robert Shinn teaches his followers to cut off their family to save them from hell. It applies to families that are not members of this Shekinah church. Her husband is a member of the church.
She legit told on herself in her statement & you can tell by how defensive and more she is and certain words she uses is just straight saying that girl is brainwashed and lying to herself making up more lies to try to look like her family is bad when she's legit being controlled what to say. I hope they loose their lawsuit and the company gets shut down.
I believe her when she says she is following God and walking with Jesus. But I hope she is able to realize that she can still have a relationship with God while walking away from that church and finding a new home. A church can’t glorify secular things. And that is what He is doing. That’s all I need to know, to know that he is walking in greed. His company Doesn’t a line with the Bible. But I believed her intentions are pure. Sick people twist the word of God and take advantage of people who are seeking a change and help.
@TheNinjapancake14
23 күн бұрын
❤️❤️❤️ God is the way, not this arrogant, greedy man they follow
@girlycow30
23 күн бұрын
I believe she was given the wrong impression of walking with Jesus. What she is doing & listening to isn’t the way.
@ThelmaSky1992
23 күн бұрын
Not the way she's following God... she thinks the pastor is God like and that's already wrong
@ariellelillian8644
23 күн бұрын
What’s sad is you can tell that she does not separate this man from her faith and never diversifies them when she speaks. She never addresses him and her relationship with him, only her relationship with her faith and her church. That’s where it gets dangerous. She could have every real intention of following a faith that gives her fulfillment and a sense of purpose, but she may not see that the person leading her is also taking advantage of her. Best wishes to her and her family, truly.
@elsavillarreal7952
20 күн бұрын
This girl this, I just kept praying to God when I was watching the documentary. I feel so bad for all the ill intent churches out there exploiting God’s children. Miranda needs a lot of support and a real friend to tell her the truth so she can be set free and live a normal healthy life.
you don’t just switch up on your family randomly like that, cult shit for sure
The doc was crazy to watch. Hope the victims get justice
I found myself in a cult and took me almost 12yrs to realize and finally leave. When I was “in deep” and wouldn’t hear truth, I responded how she did. You cannot force someone to see something that they don’t want to. You have to love them and be in the sidelines, waiting for the moment they realize they’ve been lied and taken advantage of. That moment will inevitably come and she will need somebody to catch her like I did.
She smiles and dances but looks so cold , tensed and hatefull .
All of this is so sad. I genuinely hope everyone in this situation eventually finds peace.
It’s a total cult
Her response tells us all that the documentary portrayed the truth.
The 7M thing sounds like a real life "The Idol."
Tbh watching the documentary and now her response I have to say she’s in too deep. The thing with cults is that they are similar to abusive relationships, it will take you a while to leave and by then you have done some serious damage to yourself. Take Prycisla for example, it was hard on her self esteem and her relationship with her sister plus the guilt/loss of time and what could have been. Miranda probably looked like an easy target that’s why he choose her and made her marry so she can’t escape if she wants to. The whole statement screams like it was written by someone else.
The unfortunate thing, if this is true, is that the negative backlash will only make cult members believe their leader even more. It's like trying to tell someone that another person is the bad person by talking terribly about them- you just come off as the malicious one and the bad person ends up looking like a victim.
@amberpadilla6463
23 күн бұрын
This is probably true but at least it helps to deter others for falling for the same thing. Because we know so much about Scientology for instance there are fewer new members.
That’s why you don’t try and save someone that doesn’t want to be saved she probably works with the creator of the management company or has a secret she doesn’t want revealed cause how can one be so dumb and turn from their family smh
@Ashbrash1998
23 күн бұрын
I think they can attempt to save her but can't force it. Talking in the doc and spreading awareness cane help others
@Everyday_Armyyyy
21 күн бұрын
@@Ashbrash1998 Yh but they’ve already tried she doesn’t want to be saved
I was shocked because I watch some of these dancers if they pop up n my feed
She looks terrified at all times 😅
The cult leader literally forced them to see family after he was called out. A lot of members started to realize it may have actually been.
Based on the documentary this is the complete opposite of what was said, I feel like she definitely didn't not write that or watch it
Just finished this documentary! This stuff is crazy & sad.
Overall, I just feel so bad for the family and I hope that when this saga ends everyone is able to find their peace and healing. Unfortunately, I know that’s not how these things often end and thank you so much for covering this topic💕💖
At this point, she’s an adult. Just be there if she ever leaves. 🤷🏾♀️
People should just not support her at all leave her to her own and loose all the $ and attention then see what happens just keep up through her sister or family smh 🤦🏼♀️ she really is crazy af and manipulative also Imo so horrible the way she is trying to throw them under the bus for these other people smh ! Her sister was right logging her out I hope she doesn’t let her in , smh she’s so out of it
Cults use the same playbook and it boggles my mind how people keep falling for them
It still sounds like a cult 😬
the funeral being a month and a half after her papa passed away is strange
@emilyanderson7895
23 күн бұрын
During the panini it took a really long time for funerals to happen. It took like four or five weeks to get my Nana’s funeral planned during that time 😢
I’m confused bc didn’t her family say she didn’t go to her father’s funeral because she called before she was supposed to get on the plane and said she had Covid in the documentary?? Edit: Sorry miss heard the grandfather not dad
@orangepencil7
23 күн бұрын
I saw a different video covering this topic. Iirc, the sister said that the month before the funeral both of them had COVID at around the same time. When Miranda said that she had COVID again, Melanie said that she found it strange so she called her up. Miranda admitted that she didn't actually have COVID and wasn't going to the funeral for other reasons
@christinagriz3736
23 күн бұрын
Her grandfathers funeral
@kayleethompson5244
23 күн бұрын
It was the grandfather not the dad
@Glm867
23 күн бұрын
It was her Grandfather’s funeral ❤
It's absolutely insane how people can literally take over someone's entire mind and life and it actually doesn't take that long to do. It's terrifying.
Praying for the truth to see the light, and that the victims truly reunite with their families
She’s distracting from the situation and blaming her family. Funny thing is tiktok will be banned, good luck with that Tik tok dancing career.
@DeannThomas-le2ut
17 күн бұрын
Please check out WHO pitched and produced this Documentary; YOU realize Melanie locked Miranda out of their TIK TOK account PRIOR to her signing up with 7M? Miranda is the better dancer, getting more attention. ON TIK TOK They had well over 1million subscribers and a ton of sponsors. MELANIE LOCKED MIRANDA out taking control of their content AND MONEY. THIS means Miranda was left penniless without a way to earn income or produce content which is what lead to a fight and bad feelings in the family. This is THE CAUSE OF WHY Miranda JOINED 7M. Her family sided with MELANIE, they wouldn’t give her access or her content or money, she had to work, the offer came and she took it. WHY do YOU thinks these people starred in this documentary and HELPED PITCH IT TO NETFLIX?
@teresawhite4427
5 күн бұрын
@DeannThomas-le2ut Are you Miranda herself or one of the Shinns?
People really loose the plot because they simply just can’t admit to being wrong and it’s sad people really be prisoners to their own egos
What’s sad is that one of the boys from August Moon from the new movie The Idea of You is in this
@IllaLuna17
23 күн бұрын
Nooo way!
Her in the first shot dancing in the gold dress. I remember showing that to my boyfriend and complimenting her dancing skills but that the chemistry between the two were so off
This genuinely sounds like a black mirror episode, but it's our real world. The rise of tikok and influencers profits from it has been so wild.
Dying to know what statements she’s saying are defamatory
@DeannThomas-le2ut
17 күн бұрын
Look up the courts documents they are ONLINE you can go read of the the defamation case.
her subtly BLAMING her sister for her grandpa's DEATH???????????
@DeannThomas-le2ut
17 күн бұрын
Please check out WHO pitched and produced this Documentary; YOU realize Melanie locked Miranda out of their TIK TOK account PRIOR to her signing up with 7M? Miranda is the better dancer, getting more attention. ON TIK TOK They had well over 1million subscribers and a ton of sponsors. MELANIE LOCKED MIRANDA out taking control of their content AND MONEY. THIS means Miranda was left penniless without a way to earn income or produce content which is what lead to a fight and bad feelings in the family. This is THE CAUSE OF WHY Miranda JOINED 7M. Her family sided with MELANIE, they wouldn’t give her access or her content or money, she had to work, the offer came and she took it. WHY do YOU thinks these people starred in this documentary and HELPED PITCH IT TO NETFLIX?
@prongssupremacy
16 күн бұрын
@@DeannThomas-le2ut i aint reading allat🥸
@teresawhite4427
5 күн бұрын
@@DeannThomas-le2ut Are you Miranda herself or a Shinn?
At this point...imo she WANTS to be in the Cult! She doesn't want to lose what she has!!
I'm so invested
There is no way she’s seen it and I’m doubting anyone is being supportive. Her eyes are just dead
Oh, man.. she’s GONE gone.. 😓
As much as it does suck, at the end of the day she is an adult and can make her own choices. It is not illegal
@itsskiffy
23 күн бұрын
That part.
They will only wake up when people stop supporting them and Robert does not earn from them anymore.
It’s all so sad. It’s also scary. The Chad Daybell trial just ended with 4 deaths & countless others broken after almost 5 years.. Because Chad like Robert Shin claimed he spoke for God. I hope & pray this situation doesn’t escalate to cause more loss for all involved. Including the dancers & members of the “church”. (I put church in quotes as I’ve been to MANY churches in my lifetime & NONE asked for an NDA or a 30% tithe.)
People don’t understand how cults/abusers affect a person. How “strong” a person’s morals are have _nothing_ to do with how easily they can be manipulated or their ability to leave. Attacking them *absolutely* makes things worse. There is no person who is immune to this kind of manipulation. That’s just not how human brains work; everyone is susceptible. Strength of will or character has nothing to do with it.
So question, is it legal for him to only represent clients that are part of his Chruch?
3:41 one sided ? I heard the current members were reached out to on social media for their side of the story. no response was given.
I thought TikTok itself was the cult
Giving me Scientology vibes when members of the cult can’t talk to their own family that’s an “outsider”
She seems so off, even when she dances there’s they hard expressions on her face. She seems very cold and unhappy.
Her statement doesn't really make sense, she keeps in contact and wants them a part of her life. BUT details how threatened she was by them and fears she would be held against her will by her family... like it'a confusing
If it talks like a cult and walks like a cult...Now that it's been called out so publicly every member is in danger.
And he'll get away with it. Sounds a lot like Scientology
She's in extremely deep and it's going to take some serious deprogramming and a miracle for her to realize that. To put things into perspective, the brainwashing that some cult victims endure is so intense, they can be convinced to take their own lives. This is the kind of control and influence cult leaders have on their victims. I hope she is saved, and soon.
Love your perspective, it's like a breath of fresh air in a sea of sameness.
Shes already writing letters like scientology lol i want to see her start saying what she feels not a note
Oh how I hope they come to realize what’s being done to them by that man!!!!!
Oh this is definitely cult talk like they were talking about in the doc. Really hoping shes able to break free
I’m so happy this is getting more attention!!!!
She has them crazy eyes 👀
The doc speaks for itself so many allegations and so much evidence!! Justice is coming, and the Dance for Devil clock is ticking!!
Her family ought to forbid her from taking any photos nor videos while she’s with them. Defeats Robert’s purposes.
I kind of feel like if a bunch of people think you're in a cult, you're probably in a cult.
I love that you are ALL over this. Thank you!
She’s probably just as deep in this a Robert, she has to be reaping some of the financial benefits for her to stay this loyal to a man that is abusing people.
The fact that this church is in LA. THAT'S ENOUGH RIGHT THERE!!! That it's not a church
I feel the craziest part of this is that BOTH Wilking sisters attended the church to start with but just one was brainwashed. Would both be had the younger sister not need to go to airport? Also the other set of sisters how both were members however one got out years before the other did.
When I was that age, I just wanted to be free of my family. The more they chased the more I ran. I eventually came back after my boundaries were respected for a year or two.
I would think she hasn’t seen the doc because she’s very likely not allowed to.
I don't criticize the dancers. Robert, yes. He is evil. I hope that companies drop any jobs with the group. Take away the $$$$.
honestly at this point. leave her be... she clearly does not want anything to do with her fam
@NicoleBentley-xv5il
23 күн бұрын
Cults are like scams
I blame a large part of this on the boyfriend/ husband as he got sucked in first and then she fell for it too. It’s all so sad and frustrating to see.
99% of the content on tik tok is so cringe & abysmal. I literally dont understand how people enjoy it. 🤢
@supernova6194
23 күн бұрын
This. The cringe is cringing
@ellegrey13
23 күн бұрын
Lmaoo saaame😂 that's why I am not even on tiktok because if I see these "dances" pop up everyday everywhere on tiktok, I feel like I would wanna throw myself out of a tall building. God it's so damn cringey,... the taste these tiktok people have is terrible.
When theres an entire documentary about you being in the cult and the entire USA is watching it play out in real time. I pray for these 7m people to run!!!!!
Uhhh why don’t they ask her how many massages she’s given Robert?
How much of a percentage is she giving 7M and the church? Something tells me she’s staying around for the money.
@dalishrogue3621
23 күн бұрын
What money lol everything goes to the church I bet
@teresawhite4427
5 күн бұрын
As one former dancer explained, they call it ten, ten, ten. 30% off the top of their earnings. They live in 7M/Shekinah church owned homes that they also have to pay rent to 7M/Shekinah. Another former dancer claimed upwards of 70% of his earnings went to 7M/Shekinah church. Netflix docu Dancing for the Devil.