To be honest, the dissonance between the lyrics and the music is kind of the point. The lyrics use phrases like “playtime’s over”, “birds and the bees”, and “enoughsies” to keep emphasizing how young Katherine was when all this was happening. You’re supposed to be uncomfortable with the disconnect from the overly pop sound and what it’s actually singing about. I will agree with other commenters though that the live version (specifically Sam Pauly’s) does a much better job at emphasizing the tragedy. It’s more of an acting performance than a concert (though the singing is still obviously great). I recommend watching her performance if you want something that really nails the message home.

@dafuq27783

2 ай бұрын

i thought it's "enough, see" not "enoughsies".

The thing is, at first listen it seems like she was "promiscuous" but her entire life was full of manipulation and assault. She never actually was really "with" any of these men; she was groomed and raped in all of these relationships. I believe Henry even pardoned one of her rapists at one point. In actual history, her music teacher was 32 and she was 13, the second guy she was 15-16, and he was late 30s/early 40s, and she married Henry at 17/18 while he was already well past middle-aged, and it is widely believed that she truly was only friends with Thomas, but he ended up raping her as well, and when she confessed that h had raped her, Henry sentenced her to execution, believing that she was lying and had committed adultery. Even then people thought her marriage with him was weird as hell. And she was executed before she even turned twenty (there's debate around wether she was 18 or 19, but no accounts put her older than that, some even claim she was younger which is even more sad). She lived a very short, sad life.

@repressedtrauma322

Ай бұрын

The rapist he pardoned was Thomas Culpeper ( Kathrine Howard and Anne Boleyn’s distant cousin) he was pardoned as he was Henry VIII’s friend and iirc it was revealed sometime recently (last 10 years or so) he had many victims of rape which obviously can lead to believe that Kathrine was one of those. That time period is very painful to look at.

This song is better live. Especially Sam Pauly’s performance (in my opinion). The facial expressions, delivery of the lyrics and lines between verses makes the first 2 choruses less playful and more satire, which makes the final message clearer. Although the studio recording sessions sound good, it doesn’t get the message and emotion across as well as the live performances. Even if you don’t react to the live ones, I suggest you to watch it in your own time, because it hits really differently and way harder.

@christopherhuang9501

2 ай бұрын

Agreed. The problem with the studio recording is that it's focussed on delivering a clean, musically consistent product. As a result, you miss a lot of the anguish as she begins to realise how she's been victimised and objectified.

@dafuq27783

2 ай бұрын

at this point, it's no longer an opinion -- Sam's version is the best.

@kurikuri6683

Ай бұрын

Samantha Pauly is just awesome as Howard!!! Can't agree more

@LillyJericho

Ай бұрын

@@kurikuri6683 best K Howard out there for sure

Honestly this reaction made me sad because you seemed to have completely missed the point and made some fairly gross assumptions. You said “all men are dogs” but before hand you used degrading terms towards her, calling Howard a “hoe” and chalking her up to just being promiscuous, making it seem incredibly disingenuous. The entire point of this song is to show how tragic and heartbreaking KH’s life was. She was used by men her entire life starting from the young age of 13 when she probably hardly even knew what sex was. She was 13 and he was 23, she was used, she was assaulted, she was not a whore. The song shows her throughout her life thinking that everything happening to her is fine, explaining the upbeat and poppy nature of the music until it all comes crashing down at the very end. This song is beautiful and powerful and it’s disappointing to see yall not realize that. Sorry for the rant this just kinda made me upset.

@cheongrt5759

2 ай бұрын

I agree man, I wanted to comment about it but you basically said it. I hope they will try and read into things before saying such a degrading comment about Katherine, she was just a child when this all happened.

@jasper_the_techie

Ай бұрын

@@cheongrt5759 exactly!! 🙏

@suga4life665

Ай бұрын

I thought the exact thing and the wife really didn't try to explain much and agreed with him most of the time, that disappointed me too this whole reaction is a disappointment.

@jordancaldwellmusgrove344

Ай бұрын

100% agree it is my favorite of the show because of the beautiful and heartbreaking juxtaposition

@shay181197

Ай бұрын

Yes. Exactly.

is perhaps the most tragic story. She was only 16/17 years old when she married Henry.... 19 when she was kill. A fun trivia fact, Katherine H. was a cousin of Anna B. - Both cousins shared the same fate.

K. Howard has one of the most tragic stories, she was used by so many men in her life, and she was beheaded for it. Some say that she was beheaded because of her past relationships (that she was groomed into). She was just a kid too, 19 is the oldest i've ever seen anyone guess, and Henry was decades older than her. Her story is a tragedy.

@user-en7hz9ko2x

Ай бұрын

If I remember correctly, henry viii was pushing 50 or a little older than that. Essentially, k howard was young enough to be his daughter. Henry's marriage to catherine of aragon lasted longer than k. Howard's life.

3:55 honestly even back then a predatory relationship of that age gap would be frowned upon amongst common people. Typically commoners would marry closer to their own age range. Amongst nobility a young teenager might be arranged to marry someone, but usually (though unfortunately not always) the marriage would not be consummated until she was old enough to survive childbirth, still gross by our modern standards, but I just wanted to add context that what her music teacher was doing back then would have been heavily frowned upon in by most people even back then. It’s so sad too, she was 19 when she went to trial she was told she’d be let off the death sentence if she admitted to her “promiscuity”, but she was adamant that she had never consented to those relations, and that she had been r*ped. When she heard they were going to arrest her she fled screaming through the castle, she was so young, it’s so unfortunate what happened to her

I don't think I've ever seen someone articulate THE POINT at the same time as missing it staring you in the face 😭 the dissonance is The Point. The poppy, fun sound of it reflects the way she was hystorically remembered as a promiscuous woman, so the "expectation" people have of her based off the preconceptions, and the playfulness and childish phrasings reflect the fact that She Was A Child at the time. The dissonance between that and the actual content is meant to jorrify you, because her story is horrifying. That's The Point 😭 it's very clear from the lyrics and the conclusion that the song is sympathetic to her. The dissonance is Meant to cause discomfort 😭 You guys almost had it, but then just completely missed the point. Also, calling her a hoe was just. Disgusting, frankly, when the song repeated again and again how the guys were the ones coming onto her again and again, when she was, once again, a Child, and had no real control over what happened to her.

The live Broadway version and recording is SO MUCH BETTER than the west end one in my opinion. Sam Pauly almost brings me to tears every time I watch it as a victim of S/A. Her version is so much more emotional and heartbreaking instead of just poppy vibes. I know you probably can't watch it on KZread but look up a live slime tutorial and watch it. It's so much more impactful and tells the story fully.

Missed all the points of the song just to say degrading things. Must be too complicated for yall to get it, or just too closeminded. Not sure which is more sad.

i think mortius said it best in his reaction, i cant remember the exact quote but it was along the lines of "her story wasnt over when she lost her head, it was over when IT happened again"

You missed the point kinda sad to see you were just saying degrading things.

"what's ticking me off is how they're pairing a tragic story with a light hearted tone of a song".... Japanese vocaloids: It seems we have yet to meet

Sam Pauly has said she doesn't mind if people don't clap at the end of her performance because it means they got the meaning of the song. It sounds so light-hearted but as you said, the subject matter is so deep. K Howard was perhaps the most pitiful of all Henry's wives. She was groomed from a very earlier age, taken advantage of and used by men her whole life. She was 17 when she married Henry who was in his 50's at the time, and beheaded at 19. Also what the song doesn't mention about Thomas Culpepper is he r@ped her. Nobody believed her when she said it though, so she was beheaded on charges of adultery. Francis and Thomas were beheaded before she was, but Manox managed to escape by fleeing the country. She was NOT a hoe. She was a child who was taken advantage of, and the song is one of the more sympathetic retellings of what she went through, really.

This is my favorite but I prefer the live version because you get more emotion in the performance particularly with the last verses. Samantha does an incredible job singing through a heartbreaking performance. This song is supposed to make you uncomfortable. It starts off cheery because its reflecting her naivety as a 13 year old child who thinks she's in love. It continues with hope as she wishes for true love and friendship. And it turns sharply into devastation as she realizes her "friend" is just like all the other men who used and abused her.

Please react to Samantha Paulys life performance ❤

@ShyyGaladriel

Ай бұрын

This this this this this this this

You guys stopped and started WAY TOO much!

I don't like the UK studio tracks (which is what all these animatics use). They are talented, but they are over produced and add effects and none of them capture what the real performance is like. For most of them it's like eh ok... Whatever its fine, but it really hurts All You Wanna Do. I hope by this point you have or you plan to watch Sam Paulys live version of this song. Please please! Even if just for yourselves. I totally get your reaction bc this studio recording is too flat with the material. The song in live performance starts kind of upbeat like this since she's a hopeful, naive kid, but you can see bc of the performance the underlying grossness of the situation, then each verse the chipper facade falls away more and more until the end the violence of what she went thru her whole life comes thru brutally. It's hard to watch honestly bc the vibe does match the story and it hurts to see it. I highly recommend you watch the live, just to do justice what this song actually does.

The British studio recording of this song is not it, and I don't blame you for your reaction. No knock on the vocals but I find that version of the song overproduced and simplified at the same time. You're missing a lot of context and nuance that ANY live video would give. While OBC Sam Pauly is my favorite performer of this song, I would strongly suggest you watch any other version of All You Want to do. I think the animatic creator did a great job, the visuals are fantastic, but the audio just ain't it.