"I get that that was the time." No, no, Christine. Everyone else thought it was weird, too.

@sonicgaymer4577

3 жыл бұрын

If you don’t..

@unknownlyn750

3 жыл бұрын

Yup everyone else thought it was weird and still do

@aly-p3946

3 жыл бұрын

It also is a misconception that it was normal at the time to marry that Jung. Yes it was legal to marry your daughter of at the age of twelve but that wasn't the norm and only happened in a few cases in the upper class. The normal marriage age for women at the time was around 18-21 and ther men normal was not so much older.

@HappilyTearful

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it really wasn't the norm at all. Girls could be betrothed that young, but it was really uncommon for them to get married that young. Even the natural grossness aside, the risk of dying in childbirth is infinitely higher at that age than the more normal (at the time) marrying age of ~20. Any society that normalizes thirteen-year-old girls having babies will soon find itself without any women to have babies.

@tinytinkergacha7747

3 жыл бұрын

I know right!?

In my personal opinion, Katherine Howard had it the worst.

@KimYoungLee

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah she never has a good childhhod UnU

@hannahh5626

3 жыл бұрын

M I K K A C H U X She didn’t have a good life in general

@baalgodofrain

3 жыл бұрын

She wasn’t 13 when he was groomed by Manox, she might have been 10 to 7 years old according to others historical accounts and Manox might’ve been olden than 23, maybe around 21-36, and also she was 17-20 when she died, she was either 15-19 when she married Henry Edit: more information added

@juicycouture9672

3 жыл бұрын

Baal, God of Rain WAIT WHAT FR

@atrea9296

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, she got used by several men and got beheaded for it in the end.

I read somewhere that the reason she uses childish phrases like “Enoughsies” and “Birds and Bees” is because she was robbed of her childhood. I don’t know if it’s true but heh.

@unknownlyn750

3 жыл бұрын

This just makes it more sad

@pie1o1morris46

3 жыл бұрын

I guess that makes sense... Plus "Playtime's over"

@skyeperez8305

3 жыл бұрын

It’s true! She started being sexualized at 12, was ‘involved with’ the music teacher at age 13, was raped by her grandma secretary hence the “he gets what he wants and he won’t take no,” was abused by Henry starting around age 15-17 and was publicly executed by 17-19.

@juliamarshall9164

3 жыл бұрын

But it’s “enough, see”

@pokecraftjohnson2598

3 жыл бұрын

she also died at a young age at either 18 or 19, historians aren't sure what age she was when she died

Side note: Katherine was about 17 when she got married to 49 year old Henry.

@eclipseisbmyt666

3 жыл бұрын

Okay that’s gross, he is old enough to be her dad

@hasonkenji

3 жыл бұрын

She was turning 19 and he was turning 80.

@juicycouture9672

3 жыл бұрын

So she lived 3 years with him?

@duketgg

3 жыл бұрын

@@juicycouture9672 - no, barely 1 year and 7 months.

@Ash-vm2xx

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure if this was true but I've seen another comment on a different video saying that Henry would have known Katherine when she was a baby. Since she was Anne (Beheaded)'s cousin from what I've read. I could be wrong but either way it's disgusting.

Interesting fact: Katherine Howard was Anne Boleyn’s Cousin

@macaronnotmacadamia222

3 жыл бұрын

and I'm pretty sure that they were Jane Seymour's 2nd cousins

@totallyrealname1174

3 жыл бұрын

And I think Catherine Parr was married to Jane’s brother.

@lazyartist1984

3 жыл бұрын

..............................................no emoji or emoticon can express my shock and suprise when I read this comment and two following reply's

@Mai-po1me

3 жыл бұрын

Totally Real Name She was

@goldenbacon1572

3 жыл бұрын

And Jane's brother sexually assaulted Anne Boleyn's daughter (honestly just wanted to join in adding facts to the replies lol)

This song is definitely the best at storytelling, but there are a few things that you should know. Manox was actually in his late thirties. He groomed Katherine when he was serving as her music teacher. The second of her relationships was Dereham, which was actually a consensual yet secret and forbidden relationship. Still, the power dynamics based on age are questionable. Finally, Thomas Culpepper was Henry's courtier, who Katherine allegedly had an affair with, but it should be brought up that Culpeper was pardoned for r**e before their relationship, and I've heard (not 100% sure on this) that Katherine claimed Thomas had r***d her as well. Henry was not only unhappy that Katherine had allegedly cheated, but also that she wasn't a virgin, and had her beheaded at the age of 19. Her musical inspirations are two popstars who were portrayed as innocent yet sexy, Britney Spears and Ariana Grande. The next scene will be the Queens Fight, which occurs right after this song.

@naturesdragon46

3 жыл бұрын

thanks for expainling it

@jules4686

3 жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly, it was proven that Katherine and Mannox never had intercourse but did do other things for pleasure. And with Thomas Culpeper there's some belief that that relationship was also consensual because it's believed that Katherine's last words before being beheaded were "I die a queen, but I'd rather die the wife of Culpeper." And she was either beheaded at the age of 17 or 19 because there are unfortunately no official records of her birth :(((((( It's so sadddddd

@jamiehood850

3 жыл бұрын

@@jules4686 That's interesting, because everything I've seen about Manox says that he was a predator, and that he r***d her. I totally get what you're saying about Culpeper, because I know their relationship is hotly debated. In my opinion, they either had a consensual affair, or he r***d her.

@Defaultname00067

3 жыл бұрын

Hey There Demons Its Ya Girl those weren’t Katherine’s last words, that’s a common myth but it’s pretty much definitely not true. Her last words were most likely the usual things people said before their executions - that the decision was just, that she was sorry, that she hoped god would have mercy on her, that sort of thing. it’s really quite sad

@Nayeooon

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, just, wow 👁👄👁

For the scene in prison, Katherine is said to have requested a chopping block to practice laying her head on it because she didn't want to get it wrong and embarrassed herself and everyone else, her tale is incredibly tragic, she died around the age of 19

@juicycouture9672

3 жыл бұрын

She actually asked the king himself if he could practice with her, or something like that but the king would neglect her

@dimsufferer9951

2 ай бұрын

And some sources say her execution was botched anyways because the executioner used a dull axe and missed her neck with the first swing, cutting her back instead

@nomousecat

Ай бұрын

@@dimsufferer9951 That was Mary Queen of Scots. Catherine mercifully just got one clean axe blow

It was not the time. Most people married in their early twenties. It was only royalty and nobility that married that young.

@gummysnacksandknives9229

3 жыл бұрын

And even then it was paper marriages they usually would even meet until they were 17/18ish

@Nyx_404

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, that is true, but people were betrothed at birth, but however, there was a very long stretch of time where girls in Europe married when they had their first-tenth period, dating all the way back to Greece and ending I believe around the beginning of the dark ages (I don't really know when it ended, I'm just going off my history book and some shows about ancient Europe xd).

@Emm4sk1es

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah Henry was like 40 while she was like 16-18

@oshanegreen1954

3 жыл бұрын

But wasn't she a noble I mean the secretary did work for her aunt or something like that and when she found out she sent her to henry and the secretary somewhere else

@T0pBitch

3 жыл бұрын

Yes this is true, but Katherine was Anne B's cousin, and Anne was a noble, so idk for SURE, but I'm PREEETTY sure Katherine was too. Again tho idk for sure.

Henry Mannox was actually 36 and Karherine was 13. 23 was the age gap it just doesn't sound as good when you sing 36

@claricetan6285

3 жыл бұрын

That’s so much grosser

@glue6679

3 жыл бұрын

She could have been 10. TEN!

@MEDSZ13.08

3 жыл бұрын

@@movietheatersnacks or was just born

@markkoehr5003

3 жыл бұрын

We actually have no idea how old Mannox really was. He could have been anywhere from 21 to 36.

@MEDSZ13.08

3 жыл бұрын

@Khaled Gaming what says??

This song is soo sad. Kathrine was only 18, 19 when she got beheaded. She never really knew what real love was because all the guys were using her.

@tea49

3 жыл бұрын

I believe she was 19

@someoneodd3329

3 жыл бұрын

Some historians say they don't think she lived past 17.

@tea49

3 жыл бұрын

@@someoneodd3329 Well, just like what Deliet Twelde said we don't have birth records to know for sure.

@KatBFabulous

3 жыл бұрын

17

@MsAliciaRL

Жыл бұрын

@@tea49 It's not known because historians don't know what year she was born. She could have been 17-19 when she was killed.

“This face shows Sadness and despair” *happy go lucky music in the background*

@ineedsomemilk7365

3 жыл бұрын

Dangit Grandpa

@Mafuyuismagic

3 жыл бұрын

:O .......... ummm.. *k*

@Junebee264

3 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile Junko in the background: 👁◡👁

@annoyingloudmicrowaveculti4373

3 жыл бұрын

Ineedsome MILK I’m glad I’m not the only person who immediately thought of danganronpa lmao

@Keke_Poutri

3 жыл бұрын

D a n g a n r o n p a

Katherine married King Henry at 17-18-ish. So the others were with her when she was underage

@gachaskylo4848

3 жыл бұрын

sMash doesbadart yeh about 16-18 and then she got beheaded at said to be 18-19 I think she got beheaded at 19 and got married at 17 :)

@evivanosferatu9203

3 жыл бұрын

Her year of birth is highly debated. So nobody knows her exact age, but historians believe she was somewhere between 17 and 23 when beheaded.

@RainiiDay7

3 жыл бұрын

@@evivanosferatu9203 Thats an ouch

@pollyanna0014

3 жыл бұрын

Katherine was younger than Henry’s eldest daughter when he married her.

@MarySue1964

3 жыл бұрын

Pollyanna001 So younger than Mary, Catherine of Aragon’s daughter.

Ok so just so u know, some people actually say Katherine had Stockholm syndrome and that's why she felt stuff for the guys in the song. Also Katherine died at the age of 17-19 so-

@goldenbacon1572

3 жыл бұрын

I think Katherine was saying what she felt for the guys in the moment but she doesn't actually feel them anymore but I don't know for sure

@juicycouture9672

3 жыл бұрын

It may have been passion (as her hormones) or could have been just wanting some genuine positive attention, as she constantly had fake friends and grew up in a bad environment

@kylajensen1957

2 сағат бұрын

@@juicycouture9672 We have to consider that nearly all the positive attention she got from guys was sexual. She literally had no basis for what a healthy relationship was.

Henry Manox was actually 36... 23 was the difference of age between them

@gachaskylo4848

3 жыл бұрын

Uriel López jEeZ-

@kimksleftasscheek6930

3 жыл бұрын

Well shit- 😳

@ralphinaparkins4912

3 жыл бұрын

YiEkS

@heatherlikesmusicals8018

3 жыл бұрын

Yikes Forever

@itsrei02

3 жыл бұрын

😳

The best way to describe this song, ESPECIALLY the live version, is “the trauma starts at 13 and it gets worse.”

When Kathrine was laying on the block where you said it was in prison, it actually was her in the dungeon and she practiced how she was going to lay down when the beheading happened.

@sophiaperez1090

3 жыл бұрын

I feel bad for her. She was so bent on pleasing people is that leading up to her execution, she specifically requested the block to make sure she got it right. It's fucked up.

Aychristen: talking about dispare and sadness Music in background: *happy now*

@juicycouture9672

3 жыл бұрын

Despair*

@Purpl_Odyy

2 жыл бұрын

@@juicycouture9672 Junko why

Btw, all the beheaded queens AKA, Anne Boleyn and K Howard, wore chokers

@okay._.._.9351

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lol-zr1my Yup, the two divorced queens wore spiked crowns

@mae221

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lol-zr1my yep the died and survived queen wore hoop ear rings

“Apparently some men just employ women to get them into their private chambers... It was a different time” -Katherine Howard (a quote from the musical, not history)

after the song ends in the musical it goes into her breaking down crying because of all that happened to her :(

I think that one image in the shattered mirror is supposed to be her practicing placing her head on the execution thingie. Apparently the night before her death she was practicing for hours to lay her head right on the block or something like that

The reason girls in the modern era start their periods so early is due to hormone treatment in the foods. Back in Katherine's time periods typically didn't start until 16 years old at earliest. It's a common misconception that girls back then married around 13. She was underage even by their standards. What's more, Thomas is wildly believed to have assulted Howard.

@emilylewis5373

2 жыл бұрын

It wasn’t uncommon for royal brides but it was mostly paper marriages, meaning no physical touching.

@hydeandseek8428

2 жыл бұрын

Could I please get links to the papers about this?

@hannahhester8376

2 жыл бұрын

Um, no it's not. WRONG! There is NO proof that hormones in food cause early puberty.

@SpringStarFangirl

Жыл бұрын

Girls starting their periods earlier now is more to do with us having better nutrition, if I'm not mistaken. Iirc the average age is around 12, but I wouldn't be surprised if the few that started around 9 or 10 were getting hormone treatments. The proof is that in places where nutrition isn't as good as it is in the West, girls often start their periods later, and girls with anorexia often have their periods stop entirely.

She was only 14 with Francis, around 15 with Henry vii, and 17 when she died.

@AshleesBathroom

3 жыл бұрын

She was 17 when Married to Henry VIII, 19 when beheaded.

@E.Jaeger

3 жыл бұрын

Ashlee's Bathroom She was 19 when she was beheaded

@AshleesBathroom

3 жыл бұрын

@@E.Jaeger but that's what I said?

@E.Jaeger

3 жыл бұрын

Ashlee's Bathroom You said 17 when beheaded

@mcrobsessive0160

3 жыл бұрын

@@AshleesBathroom yeah she might have been 17 when she married henry, but her birth date is unknown, so she may have been as young as 15 depending on her birth date, I probably should have meant that, her age at death differs depending on what source you look at :)

Dont worry Cristine, it was to everyone be uncomfortable with. I dont remember if she told or the king discover itself. Also, i think the last guy forced her and then threatened her.

people who were waiting for this v

@stopitr3ee3ee34

3 жыл бұрын

@Ashley Drury yes

@Let_us58

3 жыл бұрын

@@stopitr3ee3ee34 no ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

@stopitr3ee3ee34

3 жыл бұрын

@@Let_us58 yesᕙ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ᕗ

You should see the live performance of this song, since you can tell that she is hurting throughout the whole song by not only being a victim of abuse and being only objectified by every men she was with. She basically starts crying in the middle of the song.

Katherine’s relationship with Mannox was when she was around 13 Katherine’s relationship with Dereham was when she was around 15 Katherine married Henry at around 17 Katherine reportedly had an affair with Thomas and was executed for it aged only 19 Each incident 2 years apart. That’s how I remember it.

@liamgriffin218

2 жыл бұрын

and the relationship with Dereham lasted only three months because he was executed for High Treason (and for likely assaulting Catherine)

@catherslusher1578

2 жыл бұрын

That’s so sad that she got abused every two years T ^ T

Quick vent: I feel so bad for Katherine this girl had her child hood Stripped Away at such a young age. She didn't have a chance to experience love she only knew that men were people who would just take advantage of you and the person she trusted the most and thought was her friend (the guy after Henry) raped her blamed it on her and then she got executed for cheating!!!!! She was such a people pleaser she was practicing how to lay her head the night before she was executed, also I heard that the Executioner was not so trained so on the first time instead of her getting killed right away the axe went into her back first and then they had to do it again she was probably in so much pain... to put it bluntly Katharine lived and died in agony

Christine: Utter Despair- Monokuma and Junko: You called?

@T1ffxnyy8

3 жыл бұрын

•BobaBubbles• DES-BEAR

@cvanny4549

3 жыл бұрын

Pupupu...

@stopitr3ee3ee34

3 жыл бұрын

Wait I also did a danganronpa comment sry for copying you I think😓😔😓😔

@kimksleftasscheek6930

3 жыл бұрын

Did someone say despairrrrr? 😈

@iamindireneedofsleep4995

3 жыл бұрын

Stop it R3EE3EE3 no it’s okay lol there’s 7 billion (and counting) people on this planet there’s bound to be another person who thought the same thing u did lol 😂

“Fun” fact. Henry Mannox was actually 36. It’s just in the musical that he was 23.

@nightmacaroon4762

3 жыл бұрын

@@stara111 yeah, I think that’s why they changed it. 23 just has a better flow with the song.

@lizahsoka4742

Жыл бұрын

And it gets the point across

And everyone have a good day evening night or morning

@ChaoticMosss

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, you too!

@allycielo28

3 жыл бұрын

Right back at cha(is that how you spell it??)

@cristinaflanagan5323

3 жыл бұрын

You too bro

@stanley4478

3 жыл бұрын

Yup

@tea49

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!You too.

This is my favorite song, buts its also the saddest to me. The next song is the queen fight scene and then the Catherine Parr introduction

Small Detail: She sounds less enthusiastic and more despair-full every time she says they have a connection

Katherine was only like 17 when she married Henry the 8th. Henry had 3 children and one of them was in their late 20's.

I think that part of the glass shattering where Kat was laying her head on the table was her practicing her position on how she's gonna be beheaded, but dang she had a bad execution

@ojie285

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Ouch.

@Jam13MF

3 жыл бұрын

Nah it's an execution block She asked to get a chopping block to her chambers so she could practice

@waterbottle1067

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jam13MF yeah, sorry thx for the correction

@AshleesBathroom

3 жыл бұрын

If you are referencing the myth that Katherine Howard had been hit in the back a few times before she was actually beheaded because the executioner was inexperienced, that isnt true. K Howard's execution was flawless and swift. You might be confusing Howard's execution and beheading with Mary Queen of the Scots'.

@waterbottle1067

3 жыл бұрын

@@AshleesBathroom sorry, thank you for the information

You should watch the "Queen fight" next. It's what comes after this song and it's REALLY funny

Also I thought the timing was kinda funny how she paused and asked how old they were, and as soon as she pushed play her question was answered lol

Aychristene: "pain and despair" Me: *DANGANRONPA* ☠️☠️☠️ (Edit: thx for all the likes! Most likes I've ever had!!!)

@user-yk2kx9jw4s

3 жыл бұрын

OMG I THOUGHT THE EXACT SAME THING

@jonazbermudez7638

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@thatonekid6137

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know I'm not the only one who thought that

@Ray-hk1zm

3 жыл бұрын

Ayy I just finished the third trial of the second game (damn??? Damn) and this game has thoroughly broken me! :D

@nightowls_sleep

3 жыл бұрын

Danganronpa made despair and hope trigger words for me.

oh frick i'm early as hell and i dont even have notifs on. anyways, this one was definitely one of the saddest songs in the musical.

@Teudlanif

3 жыл бұрын

Right next to 'Heart of Stone' imo

@sidukaszs

3 жыл бұрын

@@Teudlanif true, although jane's story really was short

@Teudlanif

3 жыл бұрын

@@sidukaszs Well, I think this story is more heartbreaking, (probably because Jane's story was so short) but in terms of songs, I think both are the same level of sadness and despair.

How old is he? someone let me know down below. The next lyric: hE wAs tweNtYthReE **iluminati sounds**

Fun fact: Henry M was actually 36 when Howard was 13 and Thomas was her cousin

@ravlenore

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t_Know_Anymore Um yeah 23 means 23 years older than her

Not such a fun fact Catherine of Aragon’s marriage to Henry was (six?) years longer than Katherines life (Her birth date is highly debated)

I got to see this show live on Broadway and the actress who play Katherine was absolutely amazing! During All You Wanna Do you could see it in her dance movements how irritated she was getting with the same thing happening to her over and over again with every man she was with, even getting uncomfortable when the other Queens would start touching her, and by the end of the song during the final course her character has a mental break down while singing and starts crying. She literally screams begging to know “When will enough be enough?!”. When the song ended she broke out into tears and left the audience in shock from her sad story. She was amazing! You really felt her pain through the actress portraying her. The entire show was a great experience overall

Catherine of Aragon was married to Henry for longer than Katherine Howard was alive. Let that sink in. This song breaks my heart; I'd recommend watching the Broadway version of this, its phenomenal.

Yeah, I should have warned you about this one. Now you know why I couldn’t sleep for days after listening to this musical. I love it, but I’d be lying if I said it didn’t deeply upset me. The song itself and the animatic do a phenomenal job at providing an exciting artistic experience while conveying the uncomfortable and horrifying underlying tone.

"That face is just despair" Music: *Ya'll hear something?*

Ayyeeee she’s wearing cory’s merch😂

12:48 i think that was a reference from a report that they made at that time, in which they said that Katherine during her imprisonment asked for something to lay her head to practice before her beheading...

I think people misunderstand this song in that she wanted to be married to Henry and wanted to be with Thomas, but her excitement about meeting Henry could just be the fact that she knows the king and that he gave her a career. She did say she was done with boys, but of course she couldn’t reject the king. And when she began singing about Thomas, she emphasized the fact that they were just friends and nothing more. The sadness in the end, in my personal opinion, didn’t seem like it was because she went into a relationship hoping for a better one than the last. She just wanted to be friends with a guy who didn’t befriend her just to get with her. Not to mention, she was very young compared to these men, so I think she was most likely with them against her will.

YASSSS!! SHE DID AYEGEE ART!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! 😭😭😭

If you’ll notice, Katherine’s lyrics about what all the guys want to do to her go from whimsical and loving in the beginning to violent and selfish by the end. It’s just another way of showing how she was just a child, a victim of the men around her.

Also, the second guy she was singing about, the whole ink and quill thing was a sexual innuendo.

@kylajensen1957

2 сағат бұрын

As CasualGeo would put it, Dereham didn't apply but he got a job.

I’ve been waiting so long for this, you don’t even knOW-

When she said "spilled ink all over the parchment" She meant spilled "man juice" All over herself

@desireeloveros1055

3 жыл бұрын

Her wrist was so /tired/

@princessdaissy10000

3 жыл бұрын

I THOUGHT SHE WAS WRITING AND HER WRIST WAS TIRED FROM CLEANING IT UP-

@Jam13MF

3 жыл бұрын

@@princessdaissy10000 - no-

@cyrus_skies5176

3 жыл бұрын

@@princessdaissy10000 ME TOO I-

@princessdaissy10000

3 жыл бұрын

@@cyrus_skies5176 like we get "plucked my strings all the way to g" BUT THIS NOW YOU JUST GOTTA BE THE MOST HORNY PERSON TO UNDERSTAND THAT ⊙_⊙

Phillip Hamilton was 19 when he died Katherine Howard was 19 when she died

Her story really does disturb me so much 😞 She was so young..

the next one is Queens Fight Scene. the one by damia has gorgeous art

And yes, they cut off her head cuz she was with the other guy, but I think they DIDINT sleep with each other.... :T Edit: correct me if I’m wrong tho

@cvanny4549

3 жыл бұрын

I think I heard that Henry beheaded her because she wasn't a virgin... (idk, this is messed up, poor Katherine.)

@-LeMar-

3 жыл бұрын

@CVanny oooooooh!! Okay thank you I didn’t knew that, yeah that’s messed up, I feel bad for Katherine TwT

@goldenbacon1572

3 жыл бұрын

CVanny I feel like that's probably true because Henry accused Catherine of Aragon of already sleeping with his brother when Catherine and Arthur (Henry's brother) were married and Arthur hadn't died yet, which was why she supposedly couldn't have a child. But those were probably both excuses to find another woman

@evivanosferatu9203

3 жыл бұрын

The actual charge against her was not disclosing her sexual history to the king. He passed a law after he arrested her that made it treason to not disclose any sexual history to the King within the first 20 days of marriage.

@dimsufferer9951

3 жыл бұрын

I mean he also accused Anne Boleyn of incest with her brother George so...

She was executed at the age of 18, so she was underaged when all of this happend. That's why she uses childish phrases, she was a child.

I love how you complement the graphics of the video. Putting the feelings in the graphics is actually hard. The most heartbreaking song in Six for me is actually All you want to do.

I’d love to see her rewatch it in the live version of Sam Pauly!!!

PLEASE SEE IT ALIVE, IT'S MAJESTIC!

12 was indeed the youngest age to get married for girls (boys were 'ready' around age 15'). BUT, is was not normal. Henry VIII's grandmother was married at 12 and had her only child when she was 13 and people thought she was too young for it. It was a miracle she survived. Most noble girls did not get married before 15 - 16, which is still young. People from lower classes got married at healthier ages, because they needed money to get a house, etc. The child marriages were usually reserved for girls from rich families.

Katherine's music teacher actually raped her when she was a child and she lived in a girls home without her parents so no one forced her to be with him. Her other partners just used her for her body. When she married Henry, he was 49 and she was around 17. He beheaded her when she was in her early 20's after he found out about her past

@lalalalalalwlla

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, he was 49 when he married her and she was 17-18.

The live performance of that song is way more striking and emotional. You hear the anger and frustration and sadness

She wasn't even 18 when she marryed Henry. She was 17. Let me say that again. SHE WAS 17 WHEN SHE WAS MARRED TO HIM

@-SapphireRose-

3 жыл бұрын

AND HE WAS 49,50

Hey, Christine! The live action/performance is definitely something I recommend after you've finished all of the songs. Just an FYI that all live original cast actions have only 2/6 studio cast. Aimie Atkinson (Howard) and Natalie Paris (Seymour). The rest didn't go off into west end original cast. Um, but I recommend it nontheless. Also the next animatic is Queen's Fight. Not a song, but enjoyable.

I would like the live action reaction of this song, it hits different

The next is the "Fight Scene" I think then "I dont need your love" Kathrine Parr's Story/Song

hhHHHhh THIS ONE IS MY FAVORITTTTTTEEE- It's so sad but it's a bop at the same tiMe and I love hitting those high n0teSss-

Katherine was the lady in waiting to Anna of cleves and they both had a close friendship. She was also first cousins to Anne Boleyn, Henry’s second wife. Coulpper and Derhem were both beheaded days before Katherine as well and it’s said that their heads were shown as Katherine walked to where she was going to be beheaded. As she was walking up to the stand, she was super shaky and frantic. She also practiced laying her head down on the slab the night before the beheading and the guards had to take anything she could potentially kill herself with due to her being so frantic.

For the next song i really suggest to watch the animation of Gigizettz - I don’t need your love . Its so fun and so perfectly done . The art is amazing. Its like watching a short film with a strong message.

Katherine was the youngest of all wives, and suffered from a very young age. She was manipulated by men, and then beheaded before she could know what true love was. Pd: You should watch The animatic of "Queens fight scene" by Damia. It's amazing!

When they say they have a "connection" that's when you gotta get away from them.

I'm pretty sure that Anne was the one he loved the most. Katherine Parr and Catherine of Aragon were the ones he treated as friends more than wives. Anna of Cleves the worst. Katherine Howard lovingly because of her beauty and to possibly recapture his youth because she was young while he wasn't. And jane pretty well, she only was barried where she is today because she gave birth to a son.

I CAME AS SOON AS I HEARD!

@challengingarmadillo8472

3 жыл бұрын

Whaaaaaaat?!?!?

@xxashyplayzxx3476

3 жыл бұрын

Challenging Armadillo Angelica...

@jeaddhist

3 жыл бұрын

@@xxashyplayzxx3476 All the way from London? DAMN!

@xxashyplayzxx3476

3 жыл бұрын

AJgames29 Angelica...thank god someone who understands what I’m struggling here to do...

@challengingarmadillo8472

3 жыл бұрын

@xXAshy PlayzXx I’m not here for youuuuuuuuu

I love her reactions! She gets these stories so well and its super entertaining! 💗💗

henry actually got a axe man (?) that isn't trained for some reason. the man ended up puncturing her back twice before she eventually had her head cut off, unlike anne got a trained one and had her head cut off cleanly.

You gotta see the live version with Sam Pauly, it’s heartbreaking

Oh she got coryxcenshins mercy

The next one is "Queens fight" i recomend from "damia" o

every time I listen to this song I’m thinking about the live version and I get THE chills cuz the performance is SO EMOTIONAL it takes all she’s felling and delivers greatly I highly recommend you watch it

6:55 for those of you who don’t know a lady-in-waiting or court lady is a female personal assistant at a court, attending on a royal woman or a high-ranking noblewoman. Historically, in Europe, a lady-in-waiting was often a noblewoman but of lower rank than the woman to whom she attended. So this means that Kathrine was a maid to a higher noble woman/royal, she was not yet royal herself yet.

YEEES PLEASE, THE LIVE VERSIONS, i could provide you with a video for the broadway version 👀

@awkward.potato4836

3 жыл бұрын

Sam made me cry when I saw the video she is such a good actor.

@itsuriellopez

3 жыл бұрын

@@awkward.potato4836 Christene definitely has too watch her performance

I would recommend checking out the live performance of this by samantha pauly! There arent many reaction videos on it, but her performance is absolutely HEART WRENCHING. If you think the original song is sad and uncomfortable, by the end of that one you’ll be crying actual tears

OMG YESS!!!!

@Teudlanif

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao fr

Now, one important thing to node is that the first guy, Henry Manox, was 32 and groomed by him. The second relationship was, while forbidden, consensual. After marrying Henry VIII, it’s unclear what happened with Thomas, whether it was consensual or not, though most believe otherwise because while waiting for execution in what was essentially prison, they had to take all sharp or dangerous objects from her, because she continuously tried to kill herself. More recent information revealed that Thomas was actually her cousin, leading historians to believe it even more likely was a rape. Essentially, Katherine Howard was executed at age 19 for being raped by her cousin, who was pardoned for his crime. The executioner missed her neck the first time, wedging the axe in her back, leaving her in agony for hours while they tried to get the axe out, only being properly beheaded once they did. King Henry then ordered for Lime to be poured over her corpse, and had her birth documents destroyed. He wanted her erased from history.

It’s sad when you realize Katherine was executed when she was 18-19. She didn’t get to live her entire life and honestly she may not be the best queen but she had it the worst and had the saddest life.

You should watch The Queen fight animatic by Damia

She's a great singer

i have been waiting for ages for her to listen to this song xD

Fun fact! Mannox was actually 36, not twenty three. She was 16 with the second guy and died at 18-19

@holyshinx6391

3 жыл бұрын

Yh he was 23 years her senior, and was actually 36

Henry Mannox was actually about 36 not 23. Katherine was in fact 13 with Mannox and 14 when she was with Francis. And the night thing at the end when she was in prison, she was practicing laying her head on the block because 1 that's actually something that happened 2 people always thought she was perfect so she wanted people to think she was perfect till the very end :((((((

Actually Katherine had lost her child hood hearing “enoughsie”

i hope everything goes as good as it can

I believe that scene of her in prison is supposed to be her practicing for her execution. She asked for the block to be brought to her the day before so she could practice placing her head on it. Lots of botched executions back then, and she wanted to die with as much grace and dignity as possible.

It hasn't even been 10 minutes and someone already disliked

Katherine's song is one of those songs where it's super freaking good, but once you listen to it and understand it, you just have a nice cry

This is one of my favorite SIX songs, thank you so much for reacting to it ❤

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