All You Need to Know About 70V Volume Controls on Pro Acoustics Tech Talk Episode 20

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On this episode of Pro Acoustics Tech Talk, Nathan and Coltin are diving deep into everything you need to know about remote 70V wall mount speaker attenuators/volume controls - What is a volume control, how volume control works, how 70-volt volume attenuators are different, how to wire a 70v volume control, controlling them, and using them to meet your sound system needs.
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  • @gilbertogutierrez1144
    @gilbertogutierrez11442 жыл бұрын

    thanks, love you guys

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching!

  • @chastinmills5861
    @chastinmills5861 Жыл бұрын

    Super smart audio techs

  • @williamgates2466
    @williamgates24662 жыл бұрын

    Nice gentlemen. I will be buying from you

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    2 жыл бұрын

    Right on! We look forward to doing business with you! Thanks for watching

  • @alansy2577
    @alansy25773 жыл бұрын

    Very well explained thanks, but how about if your amplifier has a zoning volume control lets say it has 5 volumes and the output of the amp has an output of 70v, 100v, and then the additional common outs and zone 1,zone 2,zone 3,zone 4, zone 5 can i also daisy chain on zones output?

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Alan, Yes, you can run an individual speaker run and daisy chain multiple speakers off of each zone of the amplifier. Just make sure to check the wattage per zone. We actually recently posted a video about multi-zone systems if you want to check it out kzread.info/dash/bejne/h5uss8VyiLDfptI.html Hope this helps and good luck!

  • @alansy2577

    @alansy2577

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ProAcoustics thanks so much! I’ll watch the video link that you sent. 🙂👍

  • @yesemve

    @yesemve

    5 ай бұрын

    Sorry, you have not explained anything about the transformer - the primary's various pin connections and the secondary's various pin connections. Also you have not explained about, whether there are various wattage vol. controls.

  • @jayjee56
    @jayjee56 Жыл бұрын

    Hi guys, thanks for you video, I have a question, the 70v system is nice but does it need to be connected to a 70v output amplifier ? Can this be connected to a regular amplifier with 8ohms outputs ? If not, can I put in reverse mode, a transformer (8ohms to 70v) by connecting the 8ohms to the amp output (making sure i'm not exceeding the power of the transformer) and the 70v (usually the primary) to the 70v line ? If yes, what would be the considerations I need to know ?

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi, 70-volt speakers need to be hooked up to a 70-volt amp unless you use the 8 ohm bypass on a 70-volt speaker to hook up to a low-impedance amplifier (and adhere to the recommended impedance of the low-impedance amp). External 70-volt transformers are available for purchase, but great care should be taken in installing them as they are high-voltage devices that require electrical connections.

  • @arikschoessow2325
    @arikschoessow23257 ай бұрын

    Great video. I am building a massage clinic with three rooms and a main reception area. One speaker, and volume control per room. Multiple speakers in the reception area. I have my contractor doing other electrical work and am going to propose this method to him for install speakers. Is this something an electrician should be able to easily comprehend and carry out? It seems rather straightforward with the right equipment. I would just want to make sure I have the right speakers, amp, knobs, and of course wiring. Thanks!

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    7 ай бұрын

    In most cases, an experienced electrician can install basic commercial audio equipment, provided they have the necessary equipment. If you would like to speak with us directly, we can assist you in designing your audio solution and work with your electrician to ensure that the hardware is wired and installed correctly. Our design assistance and troubleshooting help are complimentary. You are welcome to contact us by calling (888) 256-4112 or emailing us at sales@proacoustics.com.

  • @ajembafabian5175
    @ajembafabian51753 ай бұрын

    Hi I have two questions 1 how do I also connect sub woofers on one zone of that regulator or volume switch. 2 how can I run it that one zone can be reduced from other zones and use it for my self example if I want to use the speakers on zone 3 for myself completely and I switched it of from the amplifier being the source and play music with my phone later can switch on when am done

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    3 ай бұрын

    I'll do my best to answer both of your questions. 1. The volume controls on the zone regulator are specific to each zone and are assigned to one amplifier. You can connect the subwoofer to the desired zone just like you would connect any 70V speaker. 2. If you require the ability to assign the subwoofer to specific zones and control it independently, you would need a matrixing multi-zone amplifier setup. I recommend reaching out to our sales engineers, who can provide further guidance if needed. Feel free to contact us at (888) 256-4112 or email sales@proacoustics.com.

  • @ironkun2k
    @ironkun2k3 жыл бұрын

    instead of using the attenuators, can i connect an output distribution splitter between the amp and the speakers? Behringer DS2800?

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi there! Unfortunately, this will not work with the DS2800 because it is a line level signal splitter. Splitting a powered signal would likely result in the Behringer unit overheating even at 70V. If you are wanting to power up to four zones I'd recommend looking into the Pure Resonance Audio RZMA120BT. www.proacousticsusa.com/pure-resonance-audio-rzma120bt-4-zone-120w-commercial-rack-mount-70-volt-mixer-amplifier-with-bluetooth.html There are also amps available with up to eight zones that you could use if you know your way around DSP processing. Thanks for watching and I hope this was helpful! Feel free to reach out with any further questions or product interest. You can chat directly with a sales engineer at proacousticsusa.com, email sales@proacoustics.com or call (888) 256-4112.

  • @alexrivas4234
    @alexrivas42342 жыл бұрын

    Does adding a volume control work with 5.1 surround? I have 5 speakers and 2 subs in my cieling. If I wire to the volume control, than to my AV receiver, will I lose the surround sound?

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Alex, You would need to have a volume control for each individual speaker, but it is possible.

  • @Sami-zz5np
    @Sami-zz5np Жыл бұрын

    Hello, Can I use a 1 channel 70v amp with 4 speakers connected but use two different volume controls for each set of speakers, or will that require a 2 channel amp?

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Sami, Yes, with a single zone amplifier, you can still use more than one volume control, each with a separate set of speakers. As long as your volume controls have a high enough wattage for how much those speakers are drawing.

  • @LFeezyTV
    @LFeezyTV4 жыл бұрын

    In regards to you mentioning that there are transformers on the back of 70V volume controls, you are saying that the electrical voltage matters. That being said, are you able to use an 8 ohm volume control on a 70V system?

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Lawrence! There may be some 70 volt systems that allow conventional 8-ohm speaker operation within their voltage range, but I am not aware of those models at this time. I'd instead recommend using a volume control designed for your speakers. You should find a variety of low impedance and high impedance volume controls here: www.proacousticsusa.com/commercial-sound-equipment/commercial-sound-accessories/volume-controls.html I hope this helps but feel free to reach out if you have more questions!

  • @mukidox
    @mukidox6 ай бұрын

    one question I have 100W amp and 8 speakers 10W does volume control draw aditional power from amp can I put 3 30w controlers to make 3 zones

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    5 ай бұрын

    It's essential to ensure that both the amp and the volume controls can handle the cumulative wattage of the speakers. Having 8 speakers with 10 watts each and using 3 volume controls rated at 30 watts should work fine (3 speakers x 10W per speaker = exactly 30W per volume control). Just ensure that the total wattage of the speakers connected to each volume control does not exceed its rated capacity.

  • @matiyosbelay9143
    @matiyosbelay91433 жыл бұрын

    can you tell me how to control horn speaker with volume control ?you said it is control < 100w

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi there, thanks for watching and reaching out! You would just need to install the volume control in line before the horn speaker. The attenuator (volume control) will allow you to adjust the volume up or down.

  • @guymardanglade2646
    @guymardanglade2646 Жыл бұрын

    I have a TOA DA 250H THE INPOUT IS 3 Wire how can i connect a audio device to it

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi there! That is a balanced euroblock or phoenix club connector on the TOA DA 250H unit. You would plug a balanced output from a mixer (like an XLR) into the euroblock connector, matching up your positive, negative, and ground wires. Hope this helps!

  • @sharkalay
    @sharkalay14 күн бұрын

    What if total wattage of speakers is bigger than volume control wattage. Does it effect on original sound level of amplifier?

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    5 күн бұрын

    If the total wattage of the speakers exceeds the wattage rating of the volume control, it can cause damage to the volume control. The wattage load of the volume control is determined by adding up the selected wattage taps of the speakers connected to it. Make sure the combined wattage of the 70-volt speaker taps does not exceed the wattage rating of the volume control to avoid any issues.

  • @arnelrebenito7227
    @arnelrebenito72276 ай бұрын

    is there a voltage drop in the system? speakers in DC chain?

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    6 ай бұрын

    It's possible to have some voltage drop in a system with speakers in a DC chain, but it's typically a negligible difference. The extent of voltage drop depends on factors like the number of speakers used and the length of the speaker chain. In most cases, the impact is minimal.

  • @jonathankeenan80
    @jonathankeenan803 жыл бұрын

    Can I connect a 100 watt 70 volt volume control to an 100 watt 70 volt amp? Or should the wattage of the volume control be less than the amp?

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jonathan, Your amplifier will need to have at least 20% more wattage than the total wattage of your volume control and speaker taps combined. We have a video explaining this here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/X6Ohq7Gie7jYlNo.html When adding volume controls it’s the same concept. So for example, if you had (1) 100 watt volume control and (4) speakers each tapped at 25 watts, that would be a total of 200 watts. 20% of 200 is 40. So you’d need a 240 watt amplifier. I hope that helps. Feel free to reach out at www.proacousticsusa.com

  • @bmw318iyu
    @bmw318iyu Жыл бұрын

    Hi I have a amp 240w where I will be connecting 4 jbl 24ct speakers which I think are 30w each. I notice there's volume controls that are 20w up to 200w.which one would I need be able to fit my 240w amp? Thanks on the tap inside the grills it shows 70V: 30W, 15W, 7.5W (& 3.7W @ 70V)

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello, If you tap all 4 speakers at the 30-watt tap, then you can use an 200-watt volume control to adjust your 120-watt load.

  • @bmw318iyu

    @bmw318iyu

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ProAcoustics Thanks alot 👍

  • @HugoBoss-td3gq
    @HugoBoss-td3gq2 жыл бұрын

    Do you need have a mixer or are you just okay by putting amp to volume control ?

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Hugo, A mixer is not required. You could wire the amplifier to volume control. You will want to ensure that the volume control is rated for the wattage of your speakers. You may also find this video helpful, we explain the difference between an amplifier, mixer, and mixer amplifier: kzread.info/dash/bejne/n5Nrrbtqf7OyYLQ.html Let us know if you have any other questions or reach out at (888) 256-4112, email sales@proacoustics.com, or visit www.proacousticsusa.com/

  • @jonathankeenan80
    @jonathankeenan803 жыл бұрын

    Do you need any license to install a 70 volt system for a friend or college that wants you to install for them? I Have a great knowledge of audio, but I don't know if I need a license of any sort.

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jonathan, No license is typically required for installing 70V sound systems. However, we advise you to check with your local building authorities for any code requirements or other stipulations. If you need any help with getting the sound system we'd be happy to work with you on your project. You can request a quote at www.proacousticsusa.com or call (888) 256-4112

  • @matiyosbelay9143
    @matiyosbelay91433 жыл бұрын

    if you can send me full installation tutor. can i connect my audio mixer with 100/70v speakers tell me how?10q for all kindenss

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    3 жыл бұрын

    We have a video coming out soon that goes into a little more detail about the setup for volume controls. If you're subscribed to our channel and hit the bell beside "SUBSCRIBED" and you'll be alerted when the video is up. We hope this helps and wish you the best of luck!

  • @TheKMZ1
    @TheKMZ13 жыл бұрын

    Do you always use volume controls in your 70v applications? Or, do you sometimes not use volume controls, and instead try to limit the normal listening by using a lower watt tap in certain areas? In other words, is a lower watt speaker tap ever the answer instead of using a volume control?

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi there, thanks so much for watching! For dynamic environments where noise levels vary throughout the day, we do suggest utilizing volume controls. However, for more stable and consistent environments using a lower speaker tap is acceptable for zoning volumes out in different rooms accordingly. I hope this answers your question. If you need further assistance feel free to reach out to sales@proacoustics.com or call us directly at (888) 256-4112. We'd be more than happy to help guide you to the best solution for your specific application.

  • @mikunjrathwa
    @mikunjrathwa Жыл бұрын

    Do we have to compromise in terms of audio quality if we use it

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello, As long as the wattage is distributed correctly and everything has been connected properly, you should not experience any loss of audio quality from using a volume control in your 70 volt sound system.

  • @thbadmin7751
    @thbadmin77512 жыл бұрын

    How do you fix a volume control transformer that keeps overheating?

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello, I'm sorry to hear that you are experiencing this issue. Start by confirming your speaker transformer taps are under the rated wattage of the volume control and then confirm your wiring is correct. The volume control may have failed, so you will want to consider a replacement. If you have further questions about troubleshooting, consult a professional in your area. If you would like assistance purchasing a replacement volume control feel free to reach out at 888-256-4112 or email sales@proacoustics.com.

  • @DustyLambert
    @DustyLambert Жыл бұрын

    What would cause a volume control to be full volume at “10” but then drastically drop off for all the other levels??

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Dusty, Check your wiring. Make sure you are not exceeding the available wattage on your amplifier and confirm you also have headroom based on your transformer tap settings. You can check out this video for more information on headroom and how to calculate your tap setting for your amplifier: kzread.info/dash/bejne/X6Ohq7Gie7jYlNo.html If no issues are found during the above, you might also try replacing the volume control.

  • @berryone2313
    @berryone23132 жыл бұрын

    Hi I just wanna ask.. if 100 amp can work for 30 speakers .?

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Berry, An 100 watt amplifier should work fine for light background music, you just have to tap below ~2.6W per speaker. If you have additional questions feel free to call 888-256-4112 or email sales@proacoustics.com and talk to a Sales Engineer. Best of luck and thanks for watching!

  • @PMantle
    @PMantle Жыл бұрын

    Why aren't there volume controls with two knobs for 2 sets of speakers? I would love to have 4 speakers on my patio and control each pair.

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Paul, That is a great idea. Unfortunately, for now, you'd have to use two separate volume controls - one for each pair.

  • @aaronsceilingfansspeakersa3057
    @aaronsceilingfansspeakersa3057 Жыл бұрын

    Do all of the volume controls add up?

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi there, The volume controls do not necessarily add up. It would depend on the speakers' wattage taps assigned to the respective volume controls. You can have higher-rated wattage volume controls on the system. However, you cannot exceed the rated output performance of the amplifier(s) these speakers are tied into (less than 15-20% for headroom). We talk more about that in this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/X6Ohq7Gie7jYlNo.html We also talk more about setting up volume controls here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h5uss8VyiLDfptI.html

  • @aaronsceilingfansspeakersa3057

    @aaronsceilingfansspeakersa3057

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ProAcoustics Oh ok thank you very much!!!!!!!!

  • @user-ws5sg2gy8j
    @user-ws5sg2gy8j Жыл бұрын

    How do you connect your phone to it?

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi George, Most 70V volume controls require manual adjustment of the knob and are not smart or digital devices. Depending on the available features, you may be able to connect your personal device to stream audio via Bluetooth to the mixer/amplifier.

  • @user-ws5sg2gy8j

    @user-ws5sg2gy8j

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ProAcoustics so would I need to have it connect to a box like with a cd or radio

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-ws5sg2gy8j Yes, that is correct.

  • @kenevans457
    @kenevans4573 жыл бұрын

    are their Bluetooth volume controls?

  • @ProAcoustics

    @ProAcoustics

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Ken, With some sound systems, you can adjust the volume via Bluetooth app connection to the speakers or mixer amplifier with your wireless device. You could also install an inline volume control in this case so that you could use Bluetooth or the wall control to adjust the volume. Unfortunately, there are not good options for Bluetooth wall volume controls. Bluetooth also has a very limited range of around 30ft typically, so it would not have the reach needed to be an effective solution. If you need help finding a good solution for your needs feel free to email us at sales@proacoustics.com, call (888) 256-4112, or visit www.proacousticsusa.com.

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