"I know my small arms reasonably well", Ian, the understatement of the century

@cavscout888

4 жыл бұрын

Not even Ian knows the tank and field guns. Time for a Chieftain overview video on them! And Ian, more crew served guns! :)

@doraran2138

4 жыл бұрын

Not a criticism, just an observation, Ian does not have combat experience. Some combat vets, may not know the historical/mechanical details as Ian, but do have that unique combat perspective. I would love for Ian to get more interviews with people who've used weapons in combat situations for their opinions. With his connection he can probably access people from many varied settings, such as Balkens, Falklands, N. Ireland, Philippines, Sub-Sarahan Africa, etc. Some comes to mind, an elderly Vietnam Vet showed me his pic at 21 y/o with crossed bandoleers of linked 7.62mm while holding M-16, 5.56mm. He explained, many grunts carried extra ammo for M-60, hence the 7.62 ammo in same pic as 5.56mm rifle. A Bosnian with an AK and a M48 Yugo Mauser on back-explained for long range more precision shots. A Nigerian military vet with a .303 Lee-Enfield and AK pouches- claims again carried for more precision long range shot.

@simplymadness8849

4 жыл бұрын

Dor Aran I don’t think combat experience automatically makes one qualified to talk as an expert on specific weapon platforms. It may sound paradoxical but just look at the pacific theater for a second and all of the returning GI’s talking about how garbage the Japanese small arms are and how they don’t work and explode and whatever other nonsense propaganda was fed to them. Also look at myths like the M1 Carbine doesn’t have enough power to kill Koreans wearing layers of winter clothing that some Korean war vets ended up spreading likely because they weren’t making hits at all. These are guys who are there and they sometimes end up spreading the biggest myths and falsehoods.

@TheChieftainsHatch

4 жыл бұрын

I would say that experience is an enhancing feature, but cannot be taken in isolation. We have a similar issue with tanks: Witness the allegations from troops that the M4 was a “death trap” from observation despite the empirical results which can be tabulated. That said, experience can provide a perspective which cannot be easily learned by other routes. For example, the acquisition and engagement process in this video can be “book learned”, but comes almost without thought to a tanker.

@oso1165

4 жыл бұрын

@@doraran2138 I think if you saw a guy with an m16 carrying 7.62 nato it wouldnt be a far reach to guess why he was carrying it. Let's not galaxy brain ourselves into thinking it takes some combat experience to figure that one out

“Vehicle still offends me, remove it!” There’s a 99% chance that Chieftain actually said that exact phrase while commanding his Abrams at some point

@jamesharding3459

4 жыл бұрын

Used that in training once. Kinda pissed off my gunner, though. Loader and driver thought it was hilarious.

@lowercase21

4 жыл бұрын

I laughed when he said that. 😂

@michalsoukup1021

4 жыл бұрын

@Comrade Kong In any situation where it would be acceptable to shoot at men, it is equally acceptable to shoot at women and children. If they are armed and present a risk to your unit you shoot them kids and don't worry about it that much at the moment.

@Impreza-bj5jh

4 жыл бұрын

Comrade Kong Yep, it's gamer time

@kalajel

4 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile in the 40K universe... "This planet offends me, remove it." "Yes Comissar!"

"they put .50s on bloody everything" mark my words, we will be using m2s in space. we will mount m2s on space craft for knife fighting range, we will mount them on remote short range drones, will mount them on the doors of planetary dropships, we will mount m2s on whatever bipedal weapons platforms the future may bring. the materials may change, the ammo may change, the users may change, but the m2 will NOT change in any significant manner in any foreseeable future.

@spartanonxy

Жыл бұрын

Only when all the stars have gone out and all life is long gone will the M2 finally rest. And then only for a moment. After all you never know what you might need in what ever after life might exist.

@blueduck9409

Жыл бұрын

Long live ma deuce.

@TheJohnStone

8 ай бұрын

The only way to improve on the .50 is to use better materials.

@lordazn

4 ай бұрын

Fun fact, the Russians technically beat us to that because they mounted a machine gun on the Salyut 3 space station, albeit not a 50 cal.

@cmdrwilmot2696

3 ай бұрын

@@lordaznTechnically they mounted an auto cannon, which would be a good bit bigger than a .50 cal.

Here's a trivia fact: the reason why they do lanyard pulls to fire the cannon is because of an incident involving an M18 Hellcat where the breech exploded, killing the owner. Ever since, it's been something of a requirement to fire the cannon without anyone inside the turret.

@APreownedHobo

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that bit of info, I figured there must've been some tragic event to enforce that health and safety rule. Its a shame they cant fire traditionally, within the turret, but it would be a much worse shame if they weren't able to go home afterwards.

@T34theAmericanheavy

2 жыл бұрын

Id take the risk

@craftpaint1644

2 жыл бұрын

Breach explosion sounds like a one in a billion fail though 🤷

@b2spirit35

2 жыл бұрын

I've read that they used too much powder in the casings (8 times the safe amount?)

@rywarrior6129

Жыл бұрын

another reason might be that even if they were allowed to the smoke from the gun would be pretty bad because the ventilation system is not running

Internet: Avengers Endgame is the greatest crossover event of all time! Ian: Hold my Bertier

@simbry49

4 жыл бұрын

More like, "Hold my French 75." Ian isn't going to let somebody else hold his bertier unless it is to pick up a FAMAS.

@NM-wd7kx

4 жыл бұрын

@@simbry49 on the off chance you weren't aware, theirs a cocktail called the French 75

@simbry49

4 жыл бұрын

@@NM-wd7kx yes that is the reference.

@NM-wd7kx

4 жыл бұрын

@@simbry49 I thought it was too much of a coincidence

@dragonsword7370

4 жыл бұрын

Firing this 75/76 won't give me 32. french longue... but it Will put a smile on my face.

"The vehicle still offends me" - Chieftain 2019

@RakRescue

4 жыл бұрын

Remove it

@norwegianwiking

4 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of James Blunt explaining to Jeremy Clarkson what it's like being an officer "Corporal, do please kill that man"

@ballagh

4 жыл бұрын

"No kill like overkill"

@Activated_Complex

4 жыл бұрын

Someone with video editing ability needs to mash that up with the windows breaking on the cybertruck.

@TheBrokenLife

4 жыл бұрын

I'll take "Phrases you can only say if you own a military vehicles, artillery, or a tow truck, for $1000".

“Vehicle still offends me, remove it.” This is 100% pure gold

@dogloversrule8476

Жыл бұрын

Merch material

"You're a tanker dammit. You're not supposed to be mucking around with machine guns..." We need more Nick and Ian.

While I'm sad I couldn't personally make this collab happen, I'm still super glad it did. :) Good work, lads!

@chemech

4 жыл бұрын

I for one expect that the opportunity will arise at some point in the not too distant future...

@kchickenlord

4 жыл бұрын

Will you be having a RIAC Live Forgotten Weapons crossover where Ian is the gavel master?

@Toaster278

4 жыл бұрын

What, like the whole auction building itself attending?

@thatguyoverthere9634

4 жыл бұрын

Just have it happen whenever you guys get another armored vehicle, preferably not american but tanks and APCs not made in America are a fair bit rarer here

@doraran2138

4 жыл бұрын

Your company closely associated with Ian. Several have referred to him as "Gun Jesus". Imagine if he were called "Gun Mohammed" and the insensitivity that would invoke. Mockery of any religion is wrong and while Ian has can't control the posters, he can act to publicly request it stopped and delete those mocking posters. Perhaps you may have some sway or influence also to clean this up. Do you really want Rock Island associated with this religious mockery? Ian has an excellent channel, does an excellent presentation, and quite knowledgeable. This religious mockery, by a very low class element deteriorates the quality of Forgotten Weapons.

“He has gone off in search of a gun” There’s a title for an autobiography of you ever write one, Ian.

@MravacKid

4 жыл бұрын

*goes off in search of a gun* *comes back with several bolted to an M4 Sherman*

As a tanker, I'm blown away by how little armor crewman doctrine HASNT changed at all. Phenomenal video

"That vehicle offends me, remove it." I hope he never gets road rage

@RakRescue

4 жыл бұрын

You know the chieftain daily driver is the M3 Stuart

Why carry a weapon when your weapon can carry you. Words to live by.

@chemech

4 жыл бұрын

Those and: Death before Dismount!

@wesleygay8918

4 жыл бұрын

That would make a good shirt

@luisnunes2010

4 жыл бұрын

@@chemech Oh bugger, the tank is on fire! (Scurries painfully out the hatch)...

@jamesdillonmccracken

4 жыл бұрын

Hmmmm.... drops ak begins working on plans too build a mech.....

@luisnunes2010

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesdillonmccracken Sure you don't want to start with a technical that can be fired from inside the cab? Just for warmup. ;-)

5:14 Chieftain: "If you can't use them, why have them?" Ian: "I know all those words but that sentence doesn't make any sense!"

@ogilkes1

4 жыл бұрын

You can never have enough of something you do not actually need

@MacDorsai

4 жыл бұрын

I'm reminded of Adam Savage's famous line from Mythbusters. "I reject your reality and substitute my own." As long as you have mechanized transport, there's no such thing as too many guns. You never regret the extras you didn't have to use, you hope to survive and regret not having the extra you could have brought.

@kamelionify

4 жыл бұрын

@@MacDorsai It's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

@uzivatel56

4 жыл бұрын

Having guns all around the vehicle was actually disruptive for combat effectiveness - you would be shooting at "everything but really nothing at all" as Mr. David Fletcher once put it.

@WalterBurton

4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

22:50 Chieftain: "low", "short", "target", and then "all over the place!" when Ian goes for full auto 😄

"I don't have a lot of time to put into playing games" "none of us do" "you guys do but we...not so much" that statement hit me like a bag of bricks

"They'd be annoyed if we actually shot down an airplane." Yes, that would be the word for their reaction.

@nicholaspatton5590

4 жыл бұрын

I believe they would be experiencing a Significant Emotional Event, while I'm tracking them for follow up shots.

@sonofsparda657

4 жыл бұрын

"yup.. i dont think they would like that........ that being said, lead the target when you fire"

“Why carry your weapon when your weapon can carry you.” Fantastic tanker quote!

@1337penguinman

4 жыл бұрын

I was a Submariner in the Navy. My weapon carried me and made my coffee.

@jamesdigriz7971

4 жыл бұрын

@@1337penguinman I was in the Air Force. My weapon carried my officers who did my fighting for me.

_"When MA DEUCE speaks, everybody listens."_ -- The Chieftain _"No kill like overkill."_ -- The Chieftain 😄😄😄😄😄

@marvindebot3264

3 жыл бұрын

There is no overkill, only "Open fire" and "Reload" - Maxim #37 (Amended).

@martinjrgensen8234

3 жыл бұрын

I would dig a hole if I heard that thunk thunk thunk of the .50 cal

“Perfect when it’s ready … or good enough right now” Chieftan sounds like what my old man used to always tell me, “You can have it right, or you can have it now … You can’t always have it right now”

Now give the Chieftain a Chauchat and let Ian try to fit himself inside a Panzer I. Let's see who gives up first.

@luisnunes2010

4 жыл бұрын

@@SonsOfLorgar At least he didn't sugest a renault tank.

@confuseatronica

4 жыл бұрын

even after watching all the "chieftain's hatch" videos, I'm still impressed at how tall that mfer is and how he still was a tanker. I know modern tanks are bigger but he still takes up all the space, and that's without wearing any combat gear or armor. Compared to that, Ian should be fine getting into anything Nick had on his channel. (even with his hat)

@Predator42ID

4 жыл бұрын

@@confuseatronica Was amazed the Wisconsin had a captain who was Ians height and didn't require chiropractic help after three months on her. Note if your over six feet and can fit inside an armored behemoth with out needing medical help then you are one lucky bugger.

@clothar23

4 жыл бұрын

My money is on Nick giving up first that French LMG was just terrible.

@Swarm509

4 жыл бұрын

Give Chieftain a Chauchat and get Ian to get out of a tank on fire!

"Vehicle still offends me. REMOVE IT!" Yep, Chieftain's a Tanker.

@arieheath7773

4 жыл бұрын

“Drive me closer, I wish to hit them with my sword.”

@mushroom_gal490

4 жыл бұрын

Arie Heath made me spit out my drink, ya bastard 😂

@TheChieftainsHatch

4 жыл бұрын

@@mushroom_gal490 I sell that as a T-shirt, sometimes.

@abisairuiz8312

4 жыл бұрын

@@arieheath7773 well in one of his videos where he was talking about the Abrams and said that his crew was issued bayonets

@ProfessorYana

4 жыл бұрын

"Gunner!" "Sir?" "Do you see that vehicle?" "Yes, sir!" "I DON'T WANT TO." "Yes, SIR!"

"They put on .50s on bloody everything" Americans: *laughs in P47 Thunderbolt*

@rebelgaming1.5.14

4 жыл бұрын

SIX, SIX .50S! OVERKILL FOR LITERALLY ANY LUFTWAFFE AIRCRAFT

@jordang1634

4 жыл бұрын

laughs in A-26B

@TwisterTLT1

4 жыл бұрын

@@rebelgaming1.5.14 Try 8, the p47 had 8 M2s with around 1200 rounds each per min.

@rebelgaming1.5.14

4 жыл бұрын

@@TwisterTLT1 Oh, wait, oops, meant the P40

@rebelgaming1.5.14

4 жыл бұрын

@@TwisterTLT1 And the P50

LOVE the Chieftain, ex world of tanks player here, hearing this guy's voice was familiar until I fully read the title!

@cheungchuihin5886

3 жыл бұрын

#WarThunder but lets not start a war mate. I'm just taking the mick

@dangermode9762

3 жыл бұрын

KV-2 105mm gun fun

@Ken-no5ip

3 жыл бұрын

cheung chui hinn

@cheungchuihin5886

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ken-no5ip what

@xnopyt13

3 жыл бұрын

You keep showing up in the most unexpected comment sections lol, hope you are doing well.

The Chieftain: "If you can't use them why have them?" Ian: Sees his frog gun collection. "Now that's just not true."

@Vote4Drizzt

4 жыл бұрын

I laughed when they said that because the Chieftan is well acquainted with the need for Moar Dakka

@jasonpenn5476

4 жыл бұрын

Ian caught what The Chieftain was saying and even made a joke about it. What he was saying was in regards to actual combat use, and refers to the old adage of "an unused weapon is a useless weapon", meaning, if you have more guns that you have individuals to use them, then some of the guns go unused and therefore are a useless mass of extra weight. efficiency is key, not the number of guns. adding more guns reduces the amount of ammo you can carry, and therefore affects all of the guns.

@ironstarofmordian7098

4 жыл бұрын

@Carnivorus having a stabilizer wasn't the issue. The problem was that we kept it so secret that no one knew how to use it except for a handful of Armoured units. They actually loved it. We got rid of it because we wanted a more advanced system.

@Lowlandlord

4 жыл бұрын

He does use much of that collection, to be fair.

@dunadan7136

4 жыл бұрын

Carnivorus tankers that were actually taught how to use and maintain the stabiliser loved it though. I would have too, it would have allowed me to get off shots a lot faster and helped me survive a lot better.

The fabled crossover episode arrives!

@KahnSig

4 жыл бұрын

@@ABrit-bt6ce A person they respect buy have only recently got the chance to meet? Seems to be the case.

@vega2270

4 жыл бұрын

Praise the gods

@jmoro62695

4 жыл бұрын

This made my day

@painmagnet1

4 жыл бұрын

Hope they do more collabs. Both are rock stars in very similar fields.

My favorite gun to shoot on my M1A1 Abrams was the .50 with the 3x sight. If you tweak the mount just right you can put single rounds on target out to 1000 meters.

"i was never a fan of the 1911" BLASPHEMY

@shaints3

4 жыл бұрын

i like mine !!!

@justineallandevelos6491

3 жыл бұрын

HERESY!!!

@walangchahangyelingden8252

2 жыл бұрын

@@justineallandevelos6491 Isn't that that chocolate that tastes like vomit?

@walangchahangyelingden8252

2 жыл бұрын

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Well if you're American, how can you tell the difference? You gotta compare to foreign chocolates.

@walangchahangyelingden8252

2 жыл бұрын

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Oh, it doesn't apply then. I'm not American either, they have specially a U.S. version & an international version.

Oh yeah, it's all coming together.

@zxggwrt

4 жыл бұрын

My $1 a month patreon finally pays off after two years! Lol

@PJA264

4 жыл бұрын

Time for the new MCU: the militaria curio universe!

Ian: “There’s still one more weapon left to cover-“ Chieftain: “-THE TRACKS! Driver track troops! Drive and adjust!”

@cypher1o1

4 жыл бұрын

I knew this comment would be here take my up vote good sir Edit: spelling

@Lo-tf6qt

4 жыл бұрын

Chieftain: DRIVE ME CLOSER! I WANT TO HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD!

@Shalom6801

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe it's a reference to track tensioning that he always goes on about.

@rdfox76

4 жыл бұрын

@@Shalom6801 No, it's a reference to how infantry go *crunch*.

@roninsct7017

4 жыл бұрын

..spoken by a cake eater...lol...till the the sun goes up and you find an arm in your tracks while doing track tension...2nd day ODS, Feb.1991

“I know my small arms reasonably well” is the possibly his biggest understatement

tank dude: Talks about getting high Ian: Immediately changes the subject at a very loud tone lmao

@mariolisa2832

Жыл бұрын

@Nh20 funny

"They concluded there are enough of you who watch ian, who also watch me and play world of tanks" ha, the obvious cross marketing

@RG001100

4 жыл бұрын

It’s to try and get people to try out world of tanks. In favor of the idea is that a lot of people are interested in this channel because of video games.

@Rabidwall

4 жыл бұрын

@@RG001100 That, and it also gives you a good idea of what steps you can take to make this happen again. Kinda like Project Lightning and C&R Arsenal, if WOT doesn't get enough of a bump in traffic this is less likely to happen again.

@elwayfan01

4 жыл бұрын

@@Rabidwall it's a shame because I already play WoT. Maybe I'll make an in game purchase in honour of this video haha.

@CastilloinaSpeedo

4 жыл бұрын

I watched both channels independently and I was surprised to see them together. I prefer War Thunder tho, so... fail marketing.

@elwayfan01

4 жыл бұрын

@@jwalt2032 might give it a go, but I'm a console pleb, so I'm not sure if the codes work on PS4.

"Its a wonderful smell, though! You could get high off this stuff." That could straight up be a quote from Generation Kill XD

If they ever do a remake of “Kelly’s Heroes”, I know who should play Oddball and Moriarty

@idontcare9797

4 жыл бұрын

Knock it off with the negative waves

@michaelgregory9721

4 жыл бұрын

@@idontcare9797 It's a piece of junk! The fuel system leaks everywhere

@marvindebot3264

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelgregory9721 BUT IT'S A TIGER!

@dougdenhamlouie

3 жыл бұрын

Johnny Dep for Oddball...and Tom Arnold for Moriarty. Not even close. Ian would make a good God in a Navy Seals remake in my opinion.

@ryanotte6737

2 жыл бұрын

"Crazy! I mean like so many positive waves maybe we can't lose!" -Oddball

So what we have here is an Irishman who fought in the US army being paid by Russians to dispel the bad press of the Sherman tank with cold hard facts. The internet age is a wonderful thing sometimes.

@Myrth1

4 жыл бұрын

Belarussians. Not much, but still a difference.

@joeclaridy

4 жыл бұрын

So many people would not get what you just said

@Myrth1

4 жыл бұрын

If it helps, thanks to Soviet era, even direct neighbours lost the ability to distinguish between those, simplifying it to "Ruskie". Doesn't change the fact it's as if calling a Scotsman "English".

@Plastic_Elegg

3 жыл бұрын

@@Myrth1 I mean, even their country name is just "White Russia". Belarus was basically the equivalent of a US state when it was part of the USSR, no? I always wondered what the difference was between the Soviet Republics (And by extension, the Russian Republics today), and the US states. Was it just that? A lower form of government for a more localized area? or were they semi-autonomous in some way?

@Delta-es1lg

3 жыл бұрын

Soviets used Shermans too, so why not?

how to make an american break a sweat: "too many machine guns"

@davidcool5189

4 жыл бұрын

*How to make an American laugh Fixed that for you.

@homeboyteddyisaliar

4 жыл бұрын

Americans have never used that sentence and don’t understand that sentence “too many....machine....guns..??”

@Hollowminder

4 жыл бұрын

Have you seen americans. Theyre already sweating. They all weigh 500 pounds.

@Hollowminder

4 жыл бұрын

@chris younts Im Canadian. The fat and the weak are killed by polar bears here. The elderly freeze when our week of summer is over.

@Hollowminder

4 жыл бұрын

On the bright side. As you can see weve got internet now. So weve got that going for us, which is nice... Have you seen this new movie "caddy shack" its hilarious.

Chieftain: If you can't use them, why have them? Ian: I'm an American. Machine guns are part of my religion.

@lavrentivs9891

4 жыл бұрын

You'd love the M2 Medium tank then. In addition to it's main gun, it had seven (7) .30 cal machine guns with the option for two more for AA use =P

@MrShoryuken1

4 жыл бұрын

I see you too are a man of culture.

@PassiveDestroyer

4 жыл бұрын

@@lavrentivs9891 Yeah, but the M2 only had a 37mm main gun, and the armor was too thin for 1942. Granted Patton loved it, for he believed in more dakka. He wanted dual M1919 coaxes.

@lavrentivs9891

4 жыл бұрын

@@PassiveDestroyer Never said that it was a good tank, just that it had a ridiculous amount of machine guns =P

@nhancao4790

4 жыл бұрын

@@lavrentivs9891 In the Chieftain's words: the M2 is a self-propelled machine gun nest.

"Gunner, cursor, like button. Fire!"

@xmlash234

2 жыл бұрын

"On the way!"

Nicholas: "I don't like the 1911" Ian: "HERESY"

@mastersfv

4 жыл бұрын

Gun Jesus breaks 4th wall and looks at audience at that remark. Jeff Cooper spins in his grave.

"Driver, tracks, troops, drive and adjust!" "On the way"

@TheAmazingCowpig

4 жыл бұрын

Ah, yeah, what was missing from this video. Track tensioning with Ian.

@Penguinius

4 жыл бұрын

Is it just me or did that command seem A, Worryingly official and B, casually delivered as if through experience. Still, like bayonets, tank tracks don't run out of ammo.

@Tarv1

4 жыл бұрын

@@Penguinius well til you run out of fuel

@jamesolbrisch2582

4 жыл бұрын

That may or may not have happened in 2003 in western iraq lol

@mohammedcohen

4 жыл бұрын

The good ol' 'Neutral Steer'!!!

With regard to that detail of being able to dismount the MGs. The last VC of the European War was won by Guardsman Edward (Eddie) Colquhoun Charlton, Irish Guards, a Bow Gunner on Shermans. Guardsman Charlton had dismounted the .30 cal from the Turret after his tank had suffered a total electrical failure. At the point that his unit, which had no operational tanks remaining, and the accompanying Infantry we about to be overrun by a larger force of Infantry supported by multiple Assault Guns, he advanced into the open, firing from the hip with his .30 cal, repelling the approaching lead Company (there were more behind them) of Germans. He continued to fire after twice being wounded, supporting the gun on a garden fence, until he passed out after a third wound. He died shortly afterwards, whilst being treated by the enemy. His action held the enemy off long enough for the surviving Tankers and Infantry to escape. Guardsman Charlton's VC was largely the result of recommendation and evidence from the German officers of the units assaulting Wistedt, Lower Saxony, Germany on the 21st April 1945, during which action he lost his life.

@knutdergroe9757

4 жыл бұрын

Thank You, No Warrior that Stands Tall so others can live. Should ever be forgotten.

@dabda8510

4 жыл бұрын

I'd like to share below clip to show proper respect and also to share what Guardsman Charlton probably went through. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qJ5n1MWIcsvXpJs.html Above clip is from a large-scale simulated combat training using MILES in South Korea. It shows a ROK K1 tank crew member using a dismounted M60D (usually pintle mounted for loader) after his tank was disabled due to a simulated hit by a RPG (actually Panzerfaust 3 in the simulation). Above clip is from a documentary showing ROK 23rd Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division "White Skull" face off against dedicated OpFor unit during a large-scale simulated combat training at the Korea Combat Training Center (KCTC).

@OneEyeDollar6

4 жыл бұрын

Wow. He was such a badass even the Germans were like "give this man a medal". Amazing story, thanks for sharing.

@dak4465

4 жыл бұрын

From a time where war was fought with respect

@therideneverends1697

4 жыл бұрын

@@dak4465 hold on now my dude, lets not pretend ww2 was fought with respect or civility. My grandfather was on the eastern front and was adamant that it was anything butt.

Timestamps for the different weapons for those who are interested: 0:00 - Introduction and disclosure messages 4:40 - Bow 30 cal machine gun 10:10 - Coax 30 cal machine gun 16:40 - Roof 30 cal machine gun 19:25 - Roof 50 cal machine gun 24:38 - Main cannon history 34:43 - Loading the main gun 37:47 - Optics of the main gun 40:56 - Aiming the main gun 44:07 - Firing controls for the main gun and the coax 45:28 - Firing the main gun 46:22 - Small arms of the tank crew, history and information 49:14 - Shooting the M3 grease gun 50:01 - Shooting the M1911 52:13 - Wrapping up

Fascinating discussion regarding the Sherman, one of the most important weapons that contributed to Allied success WW2. Nicholas has a point, 21st Army Group analysis was only 14% was armour to armour combat, the majority was fighting infantry machine guns and anti tank. Given the distribution of the German army divisions panzer to infantry and they used 2.5 million horses the numbers start to make sense. During Normandy the Commonwealth forces took on the majority of the Panzer divisions, which made sense given the availability of the 17 pounder and 6 pounder guns, subsequently 75 years ago the American units faced the Ardennes offensive, with the 76mm Sherman available. The commonwealth units tended to remove the rear turret machine gun, they were no convinced it was sensible, though they did use the mounting for a helmet, which proved very good at deceiving snipers.

Gets done shooting grease gun Chieftain-"i wouldn't take this into a 3 gun competition" Gun jesus-"i would...." while giving a look like chieftain just spoke absolute blasphemy.

@user-xq5og9lt8p

4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised if this unbeliever was smitten offscreen

@farmshopchronicles

4 жыл бұрын

@Олег Козлов The_Chieftain is tank Jesus. His powers may in fact be stronger, seeing as that tanks are more powerful than small arms.

@TheChieftainsHatch

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I kindof forgot who I was talking to there, for a second.

@ThirdHornet

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheChieftainsHatch 🤣🤣🤣

@GogglesAreAwsome

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheChieftainsHatch I think "But you're you." covered it nicely

The prophecy has been filled. Gun Jesus hath been engulfed by the armour as it was predicted in “The Book of Kaboom.”

@amritpanda7947

4 жыл бұрын

Where did that come from🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣love it

@jacobmitchell2331

4 жыл бұрын

Amen

@nekogudo1469

4 жыл бұрын

Amen

@user-YuHaoHuang

4 жыл бұрын

praise be gun jesus

@bskorupk

4 жыл бұрын

Thus Spake the Book of Armaments, Amen!

There's something that makes my spine tingle about someone saying "it's almost academical at that point" when comparing a 30cal and a 50cal hitting infantry. Sure, YOU won't notice when you get dismembered instead of merely shot. Maybe that's why the .30 was more popular. Edit: "When mod deuce speaks, everybody listens." This is officially way out of my experience/awesomeness zone and I hereby remove my right to speculate about the minds of WW2 tanker crewmen.

@Malikyte13

3 жыл бұрын

Ma. Ma Deuce. Not mod.

“I think it hit the target honestly.” Ian whispers quietly: “Yes!” LoL

Τhis crossover is my early Christmas gift Damn look at that height difference

@robertsmith4681

4 жыл бұрын

@@calska140 I met Nicholas at an event in Ottawa once, he is a indeed very tall individual.

@charlesadams1721

4 жыл бұрын

@Dave: yes, but Ian is on the tall side of the majority of the male population of the US. Look at him on his videos.

@painmagnet1

4 жыл бұрын

@@charlesadams1721 I always assumed that Ian was tall, 6'2" or so. He's actually tiny compared to Nicholas, which was weird.

@charlesadams1721

4 жыл бұрын

Moran is a very tall man, most armies would say he's way too tall. Watching his videos of getting in and out of tanks is.. entertaining. One of the commonalities between the two mend is there concentration on the history of firearms and armored vehicles. When must of the internet and other media is almost always concentrated on the lowest possible denomnator, you can rely on Ian and Nicholas to provide not only the history, but the why it is what it is.

@LadyAnuB

4 жыл бұрын

The Chieftain's ready to be an original Potsdam Giant.

"I wouldn't take this into a three gun" - Whilst eyeing the .30, .50 & 76mm ultimate three gun setup.

@JainZar1

4 жыл бұрын

You only need the .30 and the 76mm, for the shotgun part you have canister shot in the main gun.

@fien111

4 жыл бұрын

You can at least be fairly certain the 75mm is going to knock down the steel for full points

"That vehicle offends me, remove it. Id pay for that on a shirt..or hoodie. It is cold outside after all.

@n147258noah

3 жыл бұрын

Chieftain did sell it for a limited run through his channel. M4 with a 75 pointing at what appears to be a Prius, with or without Chieftain himself standing out the TC cupola with a sword. I'm wearing one now.

"There's no kill like overkill, " The Chieftain. "There is no overkill, only blam blam blam and I'm reloading".

I like how the auto-generated subtitles translate a rumbling M4 into [music]

@Activated_Complex

4 жыл бұрын

Functioning perfectly.

@wankertosseroath

4 жыл бұрын

At the end I got [applause] - read my mind subtitles

@jbrwokyruges

4 жыл бұрын

Is it not?

@asw-g-64gundamflaurosryuse41

4 жыл бұрын

BoFoenss is this an issue?

@AScottish-AustralianM-84

4 жыл бұрын

@Dave quite literally heavy metal

All that was needed was Steve1989 to show up with some WWII rations for the trifecta!

@blackstone777

4 жыл бұрын

"Let's get this out on the tray........Nice!"

@davidcool5189

4 жыл бұрын

**pops open a can of .30** Nice hiss!

@joshy7759

4 жыл бұрын

That's when Ian does a video on a spork gun.

Upon rewatch, I love the way the Army decided to label the flashlight clips near the bow gunner's position, so that he wouldn't mistakenly think it was a place to stow a sub sandwich or something.

@syn6294

3 жыл бұрын

It does very well holding a carton of cigarettes!

@andrewcharles459

2 жыл бұрын

Are those labels for the crew or for the drones who fit out the vehicle?

@alanpayne4841

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewcharles459 drones? No dude, you pack and prep your own vehicle and would be pretty dumb not to do so. Those big ole labels are still there though!

'we're actually near an airfield' 'oh, look, a Cessna'

Tony stark: I am iron man Gun Jesus: I am Ian McCollum

@conanholmes8620

4 жыл бұрын

That needs to be a t shirt!!!

Firing the bow machine gun is like aiming while your peeing, As a man, we spent time practicing every day, so maybe that's why it isn't that hard?

@wedohedoshedooowee828

4 жыл бұрын

I thought it looked like gun Jesus with a Browning hard on pissing hot lead all over his enemies

@theleva7

4 жыл бұрын

@@wedohedoshedooowee828 Insert the Sex Machine's penis revolver gif here.

@MrShadowpanther3

4 жыл бұрын

@BlackDeathViral03 The bow gunner also had a little periscope window. Hardly ideal, but you could still see outside to nominally direct your fire. At 9:00 you can see it on the underside of the bow gunners hatch.

@LankyAssMofka

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrShadowpanther3 ohh took me a bit to find it but yeah that little rectanlgy bit on the hatch... guess it was used while under fire to direct the ball mount?

@ExarchGaming

4 жыл бұрын

@BlackDeathViral03 The thing is... the M4 was a decent tank, but it wasn't the best designed tank of the war. It had some issues, the ball gun being one of them, it was cheap, it had effective armor due to the sloping, it was cheap to make, because they went the whole way with making it easy to work on, the interchangable gun mounts ect. They even helped the Soviets fix the front armor on the T-34 (which was one of the best tanks in the war, and amusingly the version that drivetanks has that you can actually fire is the T-34-85, which did have the OOMPH needed to pen a tiger's frontal armor. yeah it was at like 800 meters or closer, where the 8.8cm flak they used could pen..almost anything at like 1500m, The T-34 was one of the best tanks of the war hands down, the soviets really made one hell of a comeback considering they were still reeling from the aftermath of the October Revolution in 1917, and all of Stalin's paranoid purges in the military. OFC it wasn't Stalin directing the war, it was the much more venerable and foresighted Field Marshal Zhukov that actually broke the nazi's back as he organized the defense at Stalingrad, and Kursk (which after Kursk the USSR never lost another battle against the Nazis, and he was declared Marshal of the Soviet union, something that paranoid ass Stalin bagged him for, because he saw him as a thread) ...side ramble incoming sry

45:39 Firing that main gun via rip cord and while being outside reminded me of the T-34s, firing recycled brass shells, that is used in Yemen around 2018.

My Uncle Ernie was a gunner in tanks WWII. With the Royal Wiltshire Yeomanry spearheading the break out of the 2nd New Zealand Division, in operation Supercharge during the battle of El-Alamein 1942. He fought all the way up through Italy, until injured in 1944 and was repatriated back to 'Blighty.' He always said the only reason they were issued a pistol was to shoot themselves or their mates if they were trapped inside a tank that was 'Brewing Up.' A horrific thought, but being burnt alive sounds worse I guess.

That moment when you realize that World of Tanks is actually historical, because US Ordnance didn't listen to feedback either....

@petep8828

4 жыл бұрын

Pete Hall what about gaijin and decompressing BR?!?!?!

@jamesharding3459

4 жыл бұрын

Pete P Right?!?!

@JacenHawk

4 жыл бұрын

@@petep8828 well considering they have slowly begun to...

@thearisen7301

4 жыл бұрын

Well except US Ordinance did listen but nice joke.

@connorc6293

4 жыл бұрын

Jacen Hawk bullshit they filled the game with premiums and put vehicles that have no business fighting eachother into the same match

This was a missed opportunity for an, "Oh bugger the tank is on fire test." With Ian's agility and a big hatch Sherman he would probably be on the ground before the catch phrase was finished.

@scottwatrous

4 жыл бұрын

I feel that's more of an InRange video I think.

@Tinblitz

4 жыл бұрын

I'm sure Gun Jesus is part spider monkey with how agile he is.

@ab5olut3zero95

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Must be in the bloopers.

@thomasheath6601

4 жыл бұрын

Ml by ml

@thomasheath6601

4 жыл бұрын

By

When he talked about the .30 cal. on the top of the tank, it reminded me of what the guys who made the Gun Trucks in Vietnam did. If it wasn't permanently attached they would beg, borrow, or steal what they needed.

_"I know my small arms reasonably well."_ *REASONABLY?*

Tank designer: so how much ammunition do you want this thing to carry? US army: Yes

@peterson7082

4 жыл бұрын

In terms of typical issuing, an _M4A1(75)_ in 1943 would have (90) 75mm. rounds, (300) caliber 0.50", and (4,750) caliber 0.30". In addition to (600) rounds of caliber 0.45" for personal/ issued smallarms and upwards of (12) hand grenades (smoke mainly, though some thermite, fragmentation, and WP smoke were used ). An _M4A2(76)W HVSS_ here would have (71) 76mm. rounds, (600) caliber 0.50", and (6,250) caliber 0.30", as well as (12) 2" smoke grenades. Plus the same (600) rounds of caliber 0.45" possibly switched out with .30" Carbine, and (12) hand grenades. With either variant, even in late 1944, carrying (10,000) rounds of caliber 0.30" inside and outside the vehicle wasn't unheard of. And presumably more or less of the rest save for the main gun. In essence, *_NEVER_* too much dakka.

@tigre7303

4 жыл бұрын

@@peterson7082 and still had a low burn rate and high crew survivability

@jimomaha7809

4 жыл бұрын

@SCP 096 Probably because its supposed to be a gun only topic. There is a very good mythbusting sherman tank video.

@bobdickens3674

4 жыл бұрын

Most WW2 tanks had huge ammo storages. Panthers had 60+ rounds of ammo

@nowthisis2stupid

3 жыл бұрын

@@tigre7303 I find it funny that all British made tanks had a higher burn rate than the Sherman, however the Sherman earned the reputation. Not only did the British tanks have a higher burn rate, they were nearly impossible to get out of, if the tank was hit.

I love it how Mr. Moran automatically calls the correction while Ian is shooting. You feel he's done that before.

@Kinzarr4ever

Жыл бұрын

He must have. Was a tank commander for the US in Iraq.

The British: we don't need all these guns The Americans: All the guns Texans: DAKKA DAKKA!!

@paulmcewen7384

4 жыл бұрын

The British: main gun is underpowered. Install the 17 pdr. The Sherman firefly is born.

@megaxtrime3144

4 жыл бұрын

@@paulmcewen7384 one thing I notice, the Sherman is an American tank, But the Sherman firefly is considered a British tank, all we really did was change the bloody gun

@paulmcewen7384

4 жыл бұрын

@@megaxtrime3144 I read that the Americans weren't interested. they kept building Shermans with that underpowered gun and sending crews off to die.

@Justowner

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulmcewen7384 Except Americans didnt burn to death as often because they didnt overload their tanks.

@TheNerdForAllSeasons

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulmcewen7384 The Chieftain literally disproved that bullshit personally.

12:41 Don't tell me that isn't Lenin taking gunner lessons for the Sherman ^^

"That vehicle offences me, remove it !" "YES SIR" *Unload freedom intesified*

The sound of .50 BMG brass jingling over a tank turret sounds very festive!

@wingracer1614

4 жыл бұрын

It sounds like...... VICTORY!

@lozfan001

4 жыл бұрын

Those are just texan jingle bells;)

@OrangeAmped

4 жыл бұрын

It's a great sound

5:15 Gun Jesus,, forgive him,,, he knows not what he speaks! To world of tanks, I am buying my Christmas boxes just because of this video!

i could be wrong but im pretty sure the 1911 wasnt meant for suppression while bailing out as much as it was meant for point blank engagements, such as when the enemy attempts to board your tank.

"Nice Gun" - The Chieftain. We are loving this collaboration, great video!

@shaunpatterson9148

4 жыл бұрын

Sad thing is, i already play wot, so ill need to make a second account to show my support

@Halinspark

4 жыл бұрын

How can we convince the almighty employer to let us have more if we already have WoT? We could just make alt accounts every time you give us collaborations, but that'll drive down your player retention stats.

@heckleypanes4988

4 жыл бұрын

Ill buy a premium in honor of this video

@t.j.pantazis8769

4 жыл бұрын

Keep these guys making videos!

@FuzzyMarineVet

4 жыл бұрын

If we don't see more of these videos I'll get my gaming buddies to delete our accounts.

Maxim 37: There is no "overkill." There is only "open fire" and "reload."

@marvindebot3264

3 жыл бұрын

Such a useful list even IRL.

@kaneo1

3 жыл бұрын

There must also be a "stop/cease fire" once there are no longer pieces large enough to effectively hit. At that point you burn it with fire.

@JunkCCCP

3 жыл бұрын

The gospel of Hiram Maxim?

@marvindebot3264

3 жыл бұрын

@@JunkCCCP The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries

Funny how Chieftan said that "you already know that where here because Wargaming's money, but while we're here, we should have fun"

I was at a Wargamming event actually and shot some of these off. No sound on earth like this. Im so happy to see two of my favorite KZread Channels together!!

If this were on the history channel, all the meat and potatoes of the history would be cut out, it would still take an hour to watch, there'd be 20 minutes of comercials, there'd be 10 minutes of recap from comercial breaks and they'd have a 10 minute montage of a dopey know-nothing host driving a tank over a 1992 dodge dynasty.

@ColburnFreml

4 жыл бұрын

@Max William Lauf can't forget those...

@GunFunZS

4 жыл бұрын

@Max William Lauf r lee ermey is already a caricature of bad leadership. That is why the show probably has him as the cheesy host.

@ddnn1142

4 жыл бұрын

@Max William Lauf And there would be aliens or bigfoot nazis

@jong2359

4 жыл бұрын

You pretty much nailed it, almost like this content is already made and you are reading the post-script.

@dak4465

4 жыл бұрын

Yup

When MA Duce speaks she generally gets the last word! Saw a recent military news vid where the narrator said the army had just retired the 345th MA duce ever built : AFTER 90 YEARS OF USE. Armorers said the receiver was still almost like new! Said they preferred to see it in a museum than a scrap pile.

@curiousentertainment3008

4 жыл бұрын

Paul Zaborny the article I found dates this to November 2015 I hope they didn’t scrap it.

@zepedrofd

4 жыл бұрын

Paul Zaborny build it strong enough...then double it! Brilliant!

@1337penguinman

4 жыл бұрын

John Browning says hello.

The belt links hitting the deck... What a beautiful sound!

If you watch really close, in the Bogart movie "Sahara", you will see a rack inside for 50rd. Thompson drums.

Every time I see an M4 I remember seeing a small ad in back of some of the popular magazines of the 70s... M4 Tanks for Sale $500 + Freight. I curse myself for Not buying one.

@cougar2k720

4 жыл бұрын

If don't mind me asking, how much would that be in today's money taking account into inflation?

@Bob3519

4 жыл бұрын

Inflation calculator says $500 in 1970 is about $3300 today.

@cougar2k720

4 жыл бұрын

@@Bob3519 wow, then I wouldn't mind buying one, but know that they tank will worth more with factor beside inflation, probably at least couple hundred thousands now instead.

@johnmarks227

4 жыл бұрын

They sold jeeps and deuce and a halfs too.

@Impreza-bj5jh

4 жыл бұрын

Bob3519 damn that's cheap

Arguable statement: you need less gun. Answer: More bullet always helps

@RakRescue

4 жыл бұрын

If that don't work use more gun.

@wierdalien1

4 жыл бұрын

Dont use more ammo, get a bigger gun

@Romanov117

4 жыл бұрын

If there's too many targets, more bullets and more guns and get bigger guns with more ammo in case you have to deal some large fuckers.

@wyattcole6580

4 жыл бұрын

Retort. The tank can only store so many bullets, hence a single movable gun that you’ll be able to use is better.

@Rhynome

4 жыл бұрын

NEEDZ MOR DAKKA

My first 4 years as a Marine I was a crewman on the M1A1 Abrams. Hearing gunner, coax vehicle brings back memories. Good times.

9:37 Considering the way he's standing - if you can pee your name in the snow, you can aim this machine gun.

The English " We do not like the top mounted hmg, remove it. The Germans " We have no mounting option for a topmounted gun, must have Krummlauf" The Americans " Well here's Ma Deuce and her family on top"

@PalleRasmussen

4 жыл бұрын

Except the Germans did.

Ian: How much ammo would these things carry around Chieftain: ..Alot I'm not sure why this made me laugh so much

@marvindebot3264

3 жыл бұрын

30 cal, between 4750 and 6250 rounds depending on variant.

Seeing Ian with his head poking out while firing the bow gun made me happy.

Ian- this is one of most fun and informative video's you've uploaded. not that you've had a bad one.... but, the look you gave the camera after the summation/admonishment of the 1911/MG debate- f/n priceless!

While he was explaining the fire commands and Ian kept saying “ok” That was me this morning learning how to drive a front end loader

@stevenpolkinghorn4747

4 жыл бұрын

Me today learning how to arrest wife beaters

Gun Jesus AND Chieftain AND a II world war tank ? ? ? WTF ... is it christmas already ??

@VynalDerp

4 жыл бұрын

The new date of Christmas is December 7th for Gun Jesus fo- wait.

@vaclav_fejt

4 жыл бұрын

The 7th of December, 2019, the date that will live on in...famy? I guess?

@Gonzo.S.Thompson

4 жыл бұрын

It's one of the signs that Christmas is close.

@davidtuttle7556

4 жыл бұрын

No but it is The Day of Infamy.

@mastathrash5609

4 жыл бұрын

Gun Jesus meets with one of the Wise Men 2019 colorized

The M1 was the first tank since WWII that didn’t have the grease gun( M3/M3A1). Those of us on the M60s qualified on the 1911A1 pistol and the M3A1 SMG. I never shot the M16/M4 on active duty.

Got back on World of Tanks and played a few matches again thanks to this video! It's been FOREVER! Had a good time with my old tanks I leveled up. Hope you get more cool sponsorships in the future like this!

The good thing about giving infantry a ride is not only having them man the .50, but also they make fantastic ablative armor against shaped charges.

@diestormlie

4 жыл бұрын

IRA: Infantry Reactive Armour.

@roninsct7017

4 жыл бұрын

..crunchies are always good..

@vector6977

4 жыл бұрын

They didn't tell them that part.

@Halinspark

4 жыл бұрын

Not to mention, their job is to be shot at. Tell them "Be shot at while riding a tank and play with this .50" and all they hear is "ride a tank and play with this .50"

As a World of Tanks player and Forgotten Weapons fan, I think this was well worth the time and trouble.

@razor1uk610

4 жыл бұрын

I heartily concur!

They're braver than I am standing like that when the main gun goes off! Standing on the back deck of a Chieftain directing fire as part of infantry training.....nobody tells you that if you're facing forward the concussion gives you a proper slap in the nuts! You certainly stand sideways second time around.

@Justowner

3 жыл бұрын

Wait really? I never would have imagined being ball-checked was the punishment for unware foot-mobiles when a tank was deleting something.

@andyleighton6969

3 жыл бұрын

@@Justowner Neither did I!

Ian: I actually play world of tanks Me: HE COULD BE ANY ONE OF US. HE COULD BE YOU! HE COULD BE ME! HE COULD EVEN BE

World of Tanks knows how to do sponsored videos

@jagh1410

4 жыл бұрын

Probably only company in the world that have guts to show finger to KZread and all of this anti evwrything censorship.

@krispybacon9285

4 жыл бұрын

too bad they forgot how to balance their product and deal with long standing un addressed cheat engines

@medina5129

4 жыл бұрын

Fuck WOT get Tanktastic. Underrated tank game with more to offer in game mechanics then WOT did in years.

@FuckGogleplus

4 жыл бұрын

@ You mean Warthunder? I quite liked that game back when it was only aircraft and when they first released the tank beta with Germany and Russia, loved playing RB Air battles in the planes that fell below tier 3, I haven't played it for, must be 5 years now that I haven't had a PC, but I loved the Hurricanes and the F4F-3, and having played WoT, I much prefered Warthunder instead of having a health bar in WoT.

50:05- Gun Jesus belittles an Irish giant for hearsay against the book of machine gun and the writings of saint John Moses Browning (oil on oil canvas)

@andersmusikka

4 жыл бұрын

You must mean heresy, not hearsay, right?

@saintjohn8499

4 жыл бұрын

Cool

@blazingsniper2611

4 жыл бұрын

who's Irish?

@GoredonTheDestroyer

4 жыл бұрын

@@blazingsniper2611 Nicholas. He has gone on record that he is, indeed, Irish.

@wrongway1100

3 жыл бұрын

Purge the heretic

Very interesting to see what was involved in operating a Sherman tank inside and out and shooting the guns as apposed to watching them in movies and old archive footage of WWII. Tanks a Lot Guys!

Absolutely brilliant. Both hosts just kept me involved the whole time