1:30 Now we know the truth. The relic is a coffin that puts an immortal villager who uses a trans-dimensional pickaxe to mine gold out of thin air in stasis which can only be opened inside the safe environment of a monastery. :p

@xotl2780

4 жыл бұрын

Oh my God.

@kylethomas9130

4 жыл бұрын

So monasteries are like a gate to a dimension of unlimited golden power?

@tvremote9394

4 жыл бұрын

so monasteries are basically slavery camps? yikes

@darktermi1993

4 жыл бұрын

Relics are like statues in churchs where people leave coins

@aliencatcrew3336

4 жыл бұрын

Actually they look more like those gold things that they swing around in church that has the incense burning in it.

Loved the "1 relic = 1 fully upgraded villager in gold forever" comparison.

Medina: "Help! Help! Crusaders are attacking our trade routes!"

@erickcenteno7731

4 жыл бұрын

Everytime someone donate to SPOTL patreon should send this message: For the war effort!

@AmmarFarisA

4 жыл бұрын

Broken patrons: This is all we can spare...

@raptorhacker599

4 жыл бұрын

rip lil trade carts

@user-ov3nt4ll4d

4 жыл бұрын

"REYNALD IS ATTACKING OUR CARAVAN!"

@jasv49

4 жыл бұрын

I heard that in my head in the exact ingame voice

What i've learned from this video: have a spanish ally.

@bertuslombardvisser4773

4 жыл бұрын

NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION

@jeanmarteau7729

4 жыл бұрын

@@bertuslombardvisser4773 expects* :D

@vicio19995

4 жыл бұрын

@@jeanmarteau7729 he neither expected that

@jeanmarteau7729

4 жыл бұрын

@@vicio19995 fun fact, I'm Spaniard, so I guess he didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition of orthography hahaha

@vicio19995

4 жыл бұрын

@@jeanmarteau7729 yo tambien lo soy, por eso digo

You make me want to play AoE2 again. 😃

@Ltdcloud

4 жыл бұрын

You mean you are not playing it right now??!!

@davidsnoek8686

4 жыл бұрын

on the 14th on this month aoe 2 DE is coming live with 4k graphgigs!

@jigyeshshah4533

4 жыл бұрын

Well i actually started playing against thanks to sotl... Though i am getting my ass handed to me on voobly 15l and 2w

@GraveUypo

4 жыл бұрын

he got me back into the game a few years ago, too

@BalgaBear

4 жыл бұрын

Why'd you ever stop playing?

"We found a cart, maybe we take her (the gold)?" "No" *_Trade cart in AoE2 in nutshell_* At least take the gold you silly units

@GhostDr3amer

4 жыл бұрын

They do take the gold. For themselves. You get nothing.

@Hortifox_the_gardener

4 жыл бұрын

That would actually be a cool mechanic and incentive to raid trade routes even more. But on the other hand it makes a trade raid hurt even more and might tip balancing.

@BaronPraxis8492

4 жыл бұрын

I love AoE, but Rise of Nations handles that stuff so much better. You get plunder from attacking caravans, you can trade with other cities you've built on the map, taxation means you have a steady supply of wealth, etc

@GentleMannOfHats

4 жыл бұрын

@@BaronPraxis8492 I never got the hang of RON it seems like you spam units near the end game

@BaronPraxis8492

4 жыл бұрын

@@GentleMannOfHats Kinda, yeah.

Apparently, for AoE2:DE the devs have fixed some of the bumping issues making trade routes more efficient. They said they had 200 trade trades running and they only had minor issues. I guess we shall soon see.

4:47 Villager farming: Do You MIND!

"1v1s where trading isn't an option." *CHALLENGE ACCEPTED*

@DarthTellor

4 жыл бұрын

T90official traded with the enemy in 1v1 yesterday. Proving it's easy and healthy.

@JonatasAdoM

4 жыл бұрын

@@DarthTellor Oo

@LachskoenigIV

4 жыл бұрын

Always watch out for harbors left behind.

@joshuaphillips3999

4 жыл бұрын

harbours and markets of dead players are great for trade in death matches or especially regicide matches

@AlanDeAnda1

4 жыл бұрын

@@DarthTellor Like US and China.

You forgot an important gold source: Being Saracens, getting Madrasah and Atonement, converting a bunch of enemy Monks and then deleting them for 33 gold each!

@Kelso540

4 жыл бұрын

How have I never thought of this. Rofl.

@paco3523

3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant

@gorilladisco9108

3 жыл бұрын

Allahu ackh .. boom ..

@daandevos122

2 жыл бұрын

I now imagine this with Bohemian trash monks, and getting an infinite gold supply

I eagerly await the day when he flubs the intro and says "hey laws, spirit of the guy here".

0:38 are my eyes deceiving me or is that elephant doing a moonwalk?

@skylervyk

4 жыл бұрын

Yes

@mkaali

4 жыл бұрын

You are obviously new here :)

@Toke-YT

3 жыл бұрын

So great

One thing I would like to add for the cart vs cog debate is that it is usually a lot easier to defend a land route as you can build towers/castles along the route and at checkpoints to force raiders off them while with cogs it can be hard to cover enough area with towers/castles to properly defend them from attacking ships

I think they changed the trade cogs since you did this--the cogs now automatically trade at the FARTHEST docks, rather than the nearest. A discovery I made at the cost of losing my entire trading fleet due to the enemy tower I hadn't noticed when I invested all my gold into trade cogs . . . But, it is a useful fix.

So glad to hear the old intro music.

Hi Spirit, thanks a lot for your inspiring and enlightening uploads :)! Kinda off topic now, but the day before yesterday, I finished my study of medicine after many many years and the only way of not losing it while hitting the books on the final sprint was watching one of your videos after every chapter...it helped a lot with relaxing and clearing my mind now and then. Keep up the good work and stay the cool guy you are! :)

I love the "up to the Rise of the Rajas expansions at 8:10"

2:53 I got cancer by that farm placement.

@lithomie5275

3 жыл бұрын

Yep cancer is funny hahah

This video really puts into perspective just how important getting some relics are in maps. Don't get me wrong, they're always important seeing as how they're passive, free resource generation, and you want to deny that benefit to your enemies as much as possible. But learning that a single relic is about as efficient as a fully upgraded villager on a gold mine in post-Imperial really helps put that in perspective. That can be a pretty fair amount of money over the long term, especially if a game drags into a prolonged trash fight.

Man, your channel is the best. The time you put into reaching these conclusions is impressive. Truly a wise AOE player, who improved my AOE game by leaps and bounds. Thanks SotL

I've heard that definitive edition improves the pathing, so you'll have to rerun the congestion measurements again soon.

Really appreciate your videos man. They’re so insightful and well researched

Never clicked on an Age of Empires 2 Gold Source Comparison video so fast!

Loved your appearance on the T90 stream

Thanks for all your AOE2 videos. Can't wait to see you start making AOE4 stuff ;-)

hmm that is gonna be interesting if they improved the pathing, in DE, that could be a significant improvement to the trade cogs then

I like to imagine that every couple videos SOTL adds another scene to his intro, and by 2021 we will be hearing almost the entire song in his intro

I just Love every video from you no matter how boring the title might seem 😍😍😍

Always good to hear the intro song!

This video is awesome, I always watch your content while I'm having dinner. Not sure why

Nice video as always. Keep in mind that with the improved pathfinding of Age2:DE, trade routes might become even more efficient, especially in 4v4 with many tradecarts running the same path.

Loving your content, great video, keep up the good work! Have a nice day😊

Please make a top 5 defensive civs list.

@amoghkumarmishra698

4 жыл бұрын

And one for trash.

@HolyKhaaaaan

4 жыл бұрын

Goths would definitely be in the top 10 for best trash because of their extremely cheap and quick to make halberdiers, and FU elite skirmishers.

@AmmarFarisA

4 жыл бұрын

Malay after forced levy too

@raptorhacker599

4 жыл бұрын

wtf is a defensive civ? u cant turtle in 1v1s

@ShineKami666

4 жыл бұрын

1. Turks 2. Korea 3. Japanese 4. Byzantines 5. Portuguese imo

Awesome video! I'm so hype for AoE2 Definitive!!!!

Meantime in KZread. Viper: Cumans overview. T90Official: Bulgarian overview. SpiritoftheLaw: Gold Rates in age of empires 2

Moral of the story: Go HEEEYEEYEE or go home.

@sreckocuvalo8110

4 жыл бұрын

*guitar chord*

Nearing 200k subs! You go, SotL!

Love your recent videos! It's me Don.

the intro is back

I am a returning player after 20 years, been watching all your videos and I am very grateful to you, Thank you!

Omg I love your videos. Pls do one about counters!

Wow, ignored the great Saracens trade bonus. :(

@TheGeoCheese

4 жыл бұрын

Spanish is better anyway.

Fromt he time I start trade, how long does it take until I end up with more resources than before assuming constant trade cart production? depending on the number of markets I do.

Great video! I swear millions of players were hoping for an answer to this And kudos to taking the contingency into account

"a villager mining away inside the monastery forever" isn't that just how religion works

@Wintertoes

4 жыл бұрын

m'atheism *tips fedora*

@micahbush5397

4 жыл бұрын

@Hoàng Nguyên Or else it's tax revenue from the increased income local businesses receive by housing and feeding said pilgrims.

@Ganara426

4 жыл бұрын

No stfu weeb

@cander9777

3 жыл бұрын

No stfu

@xxcattoxx544

3 жыл бұрын

Any 14 years old post it to r/im14andthatdeep

Hey dude, I imagine that you are gonna do the new civs overview a little after the AoE2DE release, but will you redo the previews ones?

@tulthor2967

4 жыл бұрын

It will take five yearsto do all of that.

@adwans1491

4 жыл бұрын

The oldest civs vids maybe or the ones which changed the most

@David-yb9ee

4 жыл бұрын

In a nutshell it will be easiest since he only need to edit the script for the differences. *not saying that's going to be n easy task, just easier now he have done it.

Excellent Choice!

The tricky thing about trade is that the carts themselves cost gold, and they create very slowly. It takes a while before you even break even on the cost of creating the trade carts.

My top2 favourite gold sources: - selling stone - paper money :)

@noidontwantthat7237

4 жыл бұрын

No

@alhassani626

4 жыл бұрын

NO. Both letters capital. Go through 4th grade mathematics again.

@noidontwantthat7237

4 жыл бұрын

@@alhassani626 Haha no

@kamikazefrancais

4 жыл бұрын

Argh my heart, this was so painful to read

@AmmarFarisA

4 жыл бұрын

No u

Great work as always! Does the Berber ship speed bonus improve Trade Cogs?

So in short: Get all gold on the map, then do tradecarts shortly before running out and supplement with relics. Only use market if you can ensure dealing a blow to the enemy.

SOTL: teaches how to perfectly fit farms around your mill Also SOTL: 7:21

@henrique8765

4 жыл бұрын

@Hoàng Nguyên probably to keep 5 on wood and 5 on food

Hoping that the next video would be on Definitive Edition already! Can't wait for next week's launch

Hey guys, Spirit of the La Hire!

@rikwisselink-bijker

4 жыл бұрын

I can't unhear it since that video..

I like how rise of nations expanded on the trade route mechanics. While you were limited to one caravan per route and one market per city, your caravans could trade between any two allied or neutral markets on the map. In solo games this beggan with your second city, bu increased geometricaly as you added more cities and markets. In team games it expanded even sooner and faster as allies built markets themselves.

Nice video, man! Since you always do the math behind AoE2, do you know what the ideal number of Trade Carts is on a route without obstacles, based on each map size? The larger the map size, the more Trade Carts you can have on that route without them bumping into each other. Also, this video proves that trade routes where both Markets are in the corner of the map are actually quite inefficient.

I haven't played AOE2 for years now but I still find myself watching SOTL videos on weekly basis :D

I dont like guitars, and I am not really into AoE 2 - but for some reason I keep watching your videos, and for some other eason I really love the intro, makes me feel good instantly...

The Dry Dock speed boost being cancelled out by a penalty on Trade Cogs also applies to the Berber faster moving ships bonus

Doesnt one Civ get gold from farms? It might have been added after this or I might be misunderstanding it as Ive never played them but I thought I read somewhere that after a while some Civ has its farm produce gold

Thank you, this is helpful!

very nice video!

Spanish player: "I make more gold than any of you, peasants!" Indian player: "May I be your ally?". Spanish player: "Yeppes". *Spanish player becomes Indian player's ally* *Indian player makes more gold than spanish player". Spanish player: "Wait...".

@michealcroes3377

4 жыл бұрын

Kids.... that how i met your conquistador

@xxcattoxx544

3 жыл бұрын

@@michealcroes3377 India is apple True

@xxcattoxx544

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

Man the footage makes me miss those old noob black forest games I used to play

"Which makes 4.21..." Me:We were on the verge of greatness

Hey Spirit, wanted to ask, since I can't find anything concrete about this; I know the Saracens 5% trade fee is useful in the early game for selling resources, but how much does it affect the bottom end, and does that change their late-game numbers significantly? I can't imagine it does, given how far down the bar was for g/min comparatively, but figured I would ask! Thanks for the awesome videos!!

I've been waiting for this math.

Finally as promised, 14 Nov. It's time to be released, stand by!

@davidsnoek8686

4 жыл бұрын

cannot wait to install it

@artham94

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidsnoek8686 I couldn't wait either until it listed Win10 as its minimum OS requirement......

@davidsnoek8686

4 жыл бұрын

@@artham94 thats already the case, you can look it up on Steam

@artham94

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidsnoek8686 Yeah that's what I was saying.

@cpt-swampy-07

4 жыл бұрын

@@artham94 I think that game only can works on win 10 64-bit

Aztec relic is so powerful. I would definitely consider collecting them in the future when I'm AZ.

@nelsonmejiaslozada9362

4 жыл бұрын

Or have azt ally

0:13 *_"Why not selling stone? You can also get gold that way!"_*

Although not relevant for the calculations, I feel it is worth mentioning that the trade cog is built much faster than the cart. Brilliant video otherwise, and I love the intro. :)

I just watch these for fun, I'm terrible at the game, and even if I was good, nobody needs to min max to this extent. Optimal berry foraging, wall placement, farms, everything is examined in these videos. I'm surprised gold wasnt already covered.

This Video is pure gold!

In the intro, where does the clip with the villagers attaced by scouts and disappearing comes from ?

So does the trade cog inefficiency apply to the upcoming II DE, with its supposedly improved pathfinding?

I wish we had a similar channel for AoE3.

Really good video! Just a small nitpick I had was that the pronunciation of Sultan is wrong

there really should be an option to have a trade cog set a specific dock as its "home," prioritizing that dock for the return trip, or maybe just prioritize a certain dock as a trade hub period

Hello Spirit Of The Law and everyone ! I am asking myself a question : what is the best way to improve my skill ? Should I focus on some build, better play aggressively or defensively ? And is there a best strategy in FFA ? :) Sorry for the questions a bit unrelated to the videos ! I really liked it as all your others ones ! Can't wait to see your content with the defenitive edition ( I hope everything you taught us since now won't change too much )

Do you have any plans to remake an overview the all civilizations including the new ones in AOE2DE?

Don't forget the new gold source (tatars only): its unique unit can generate gold when fighting the units

Im excited for the new AoE 2 gonna get new spirit videos!

Hey Spirit, any chance of you making a Tier List for Civs?

I like to build a market basically 5 seconds away from an ally's and have a bunch of trade carts going back and forth. That way you just have a constant stream of gold and dont have to wait for carts to make a journey.

@alfiechampion46

4 жыл бұрын

It’s probably not even worth the cost of buying the trade carts

@MonsterHunter267

4 жыл бұрын

Actually, you'd be surprised. The return on investment is 100% in a short period of time; after that, it's all profit.

@mrbatukhan6791

4 жыл бұрын

I did this in vinlandsaga. When you destroy only 1 british market and left the other intact

You do have to invest into trade route defenses which can be quite hefty, especially when the people you don't trade with get jealous. Relics on the other hand are fairly straight forward to maintain. Just a bit of polish every month, dust off its pedestal in the crypt and give the guarding monk a keg of ale.

What about dropping a market/dock near your ally? Does the reduction in distance and potential traffic counterbalance the reduced gold rate?

That trade route formula is actually really interesting.

Can you start with a serie about the definitive edition? If it comes out at novembre 14th

I know this Video is pretty old but i wanted to say that I would've really appreciated a quick result-overview in estimated gold per minute for every way to obtain gold on one screen at the end. In my opinion that wouldve put a nice finish to the video. Nevertheless the Video explained everything very well, thank you

Any chance we'll see any more videos of you playing matches??

You ever open a video 40 seconds after it's posted an see it already has 3 comments?

When do you should start trading with your allies? I have see many players that start on imperial age when they ran out of mining places, guess they spend the resources of trade carts on army at the early and mid game, other players start trading as soon as they can. Which option is better?

I love ur vids

you know what would be cool? being able to choose which resources your feitoria produces, like all gold, stone, or 1/2 of two different resources, etc.

So is the map distance measured by time spent travelling or the distance between marketplaces? as in: could you build a maze to make carts travel a huge map percentage while staying relativly safe?

Hey SoTL, i have a video idea for you. You know how whenever you are calculating cost-effectiveness you either say gold has the same value as gold or 1.5x the value of food/wood. How about making an entire video on that, on how the value of resourcesfluctuates over time. For example, food is the most valuable resources at the start of the game and holds a lot of that value over on Feudal and castle age, but on imperial it losses that value. Maybe is a little to complicated to analysis, but who knows.

How does the start up cost of gold to make the trade carts/cogs effect their overall efficiency? At the start it would be a negative gold effect

Dry dock, despite its apparent no change in the gold rate, changes the gold drop time. That can be meaningful on tight timing.

What about generating gold from a Saracen market? Does that bottom out at a higher price than normal?

Is it possible to approximate a curve for the trade gold reduction taking into account volume of trade carts? Take gold per minute of a generic game and then count the number of carts on that route, would be really tedious to get a reliable result though.