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@BostonMike68

Жыл бұрын

I been listening to the Dayton audio hta 200 tube hybrid and it's not bad I would love to see you do a review on one. Thanks you are the man

I have the Dayton audio hta 100,great amp ,tubes in the preamp and a and b in the amp section,sounds amazing

This is my favorite video from you. They’re all good. I had the most informative fun with this one 🎞️

@iikatinggangsengii2471

6 ай бұрын

theyre too good, but abt time for highend buds i guess, tm9 kind of inbetween, rip mext

Man, that was a good video. Tells you what you need to know. Great job!

@cheapaudioman

Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

great and informative videos always thanks please suggest speakers for dayton

Nice review of what looks to be a solid product at the given price point. All the best Randy.

@cheapaudioman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, you too!

Love those graphics!!🥳

Been waiting on dayton audio reviews foooever

Thank you Randy

A high pass filter is definitely sorely needed in many of these little amps. It would be amazing if there was a subwoofer output with the corresponding low-pass filter as well. This would allow the amp to function as a true crossover. So I haven't seen any amps provide a true crossover and people would need to buy something like a miniDSP if they wanted bass management in the form of a crossover. I noticed that Rogers Sound Labs offers a miniamp with a 90Hz HPF too (RSL IA255.1) and their new 12" sub (RSL Speedwoofer 12S) also has a variable HPF built-in, which will filter the Line-In. Very nice for manufacturers to start offering better bass management options for people trying to set up simple 2.1 systems

Thanks Randy. It would be good to see you review both the Dayton Audio HTA 100 and the Nobsound B100. They look like fun and very affordable little amps.

@moniack

Жыл бұрын

VU meters too!

As a retired photographer, I’m loving the new intros!

E Mail from Fosi to me . (good news) Dear Peb, You are great！We are now developing a mono block based on V3, our ID engineer has extensive experience and creative vision, and we are excited to add more features to enhance the product, such as a bar LED. Your valuable ideas and input have greatly contributed to our ongoing innovation. We are grateful for your thoughts and suggestion. Thank you once again for your trust and support.

@MechAdv

Жыл бұрын

Clearly Fosi audio reads the comments because that was the #1 request in the V3 video. It’d be cool if it had a balanced input so you could use a pro preamp, but I guess for an 80$ device that’s probably not gonna happen.

@danielh12345

Жыл бұрын

They are apparently also working on a headphone amp with a similar design to the V3 (found this on ASR forums when researching the v3 a bit further, there's even a kickstarter made for it with some pictures (/renders?).

That one Little Bear Amp and Speaker switcher is an awesome device. I have one and I use it all the time. My use for it is to switch between a tube amp and a SS amp that can drive either my speakers or my headphones via a banana plug to 4pin XLR adapter(I made mine but there are tons available online). Driving headphones off of the speaker taps is a game changer especially for hard to drive planars. For best results use a source with adjustable gain. I use the Geshelli J2 and it's three levels of gain work well when switching from HP to speakers.

@cheapaudioman

Жыл бұрын

yeah. I love it. wish it was built a little beefier but I use the heck out of mine

@thierryfaquet7405

3 ай бұрын

be very careful with driving headphones with a class D amp.

Feature set wise this is outstanding for the price.. unfortunately it seems the power & sound quality is on par or less for the price. I don't own or have a need for these ultra budget amps but i certainly applaud any manufacturer that adds these types of features at this or any price point. Always nice to have options. Having preouts on an amplifier is good stuff, adding a crossover is even cooler.

I click as soon as I get the notification as much for the creative intros as the content…

fosi audio executives, listen to the cheapaudioman, upgrade the V3 with a high pass filter and youll have a winner right there...

@john26262

Жыл бұрын

Would that make it more expensive? If so I wouldn't want to see them do that especially since that device does have a sub out jack.

@ziggy8757

Жыл бұрын

@@john26262 high pass filters block low frequencies, they are used to prevent low frequencies from passing to the MAIN speakers. That way you can protect your speakers and that way they can handle more power...

this is one of your better compares..! well done.

@cheapaudioman

Жыл бұрын

thanks!

Thank you!

Nice detail! - I always thought it is kind of silly not to use a high-pass filter when adding a sub - takes a bit of the stress from the amp and speakers while, at least theoretically, making it easier to blend the subwoofer in. However - It still leaves many of us with a dilemma since it does NOT feature an option to activate a mixed channel low-pass filter for those subs that are designed to use a standard subwoofer output. Currently I have repurposed an old Mackie HR824 I found used (just one, so the other channel was likely broken) and this feature would sadly not be useful to me. That said, I absolutely see the use of this.

Great job, Randy. You're kinda like a fine wine...I mean, I drink bourbon so I'm not sure if I've got it quite right or not but keep it up, man. Rock on!

Some other interesting products in the latest series of DT amps to which it might be worth lending your golden ears😊

Thanks Brother!!!

If you listen to vinyl, there is another very good use for the high-pass filter on that amp. You can turn it on and set it for say, 30Hz, and it will reduce the record warp frequencies (3-4Hz) and the tonearm resonance frequencies (6-10Hz). This will save a LOT of the amplifier's power when playing back vinyl, and will also reduce distortion caused by your woofers being driven out of their linear excursion range by these infrasonic signals.

@danielh12345

Жыл бұрын

Do good phono pre-amps also do this / have this function? Trying to gather information for future reference. Thanks!

@ScottGrammer

Жыл бұрын

@@danielh12345 Some do, some don't. A lot of vintage gear does. They'll refer to it as a "subsonic filter" or "infrasonic filter."

@danielh12345

Жыл бұрын

@@ScottGrammer ohh isn't that something one of those ifi phono amps has that Randy talked about?

@chinmeysway

Жыл бұрын

Are u sure about those frequencies? Those are waay lower than what our ears hear..

@ScottGrammer

Жыл бұрын

@@chinmeysway I did say infrasonic, which means too low to hear. Yes, I'm sure. Record warps often produce infrasonic energy around 3 or 4 Hertz, while the tonearm resonance of most turntables happens at 6-10 Hertz, and this resonance can also be excited by record warps or even by normal transients in the music. The high-pass filter, set to 30Hz or so, will reduce the amplitude of these infrasonic signals, sparing the amp and speakers from trying to reproduce them.

Thanks!

@cheapaudioman

9 ай бұрын

Wow! Thank you so much!!!

The V3 is the one...... I use a wiim pro to a schiit modi and loki, no way I ever thought I'd say this, but I put up my expensive amps for awhile as this setup kicks ass

That Alice record is sooooo good.

$1.99 doesn’t buy a cup of coffee, I know. Maybe it can get you a little diner cream cup? Those used to be free. I don’t know if they are anymore.

@cheapaudioman

Жыл бұрын

thank you so much. I usually buy Folgers so it will probably buy me 8 cups of coffee!!!!

@SyzygyNoon

Жыл бұрын

@@cheapaudioman If you ever bake a chocolate cake, don’t forget the teaspoon of Folgers in the mix. It’ll take 10 to 11.

@SyzygyNoon

Жыл бұрын

@@cheapaudioman Possibly 12, but 11 needs love, too.

@ropeburn6684

13 күн бұрын

2 moneys buys a quarter pound of good Italian coffee where I'm from 😂

Hi Randy. Love your channel. Can you please review the Dayton audio dta 200 hybrid tube amp it's kinda new and I want to know what you think about it thanks

a lot of people are upset with the crosstalk issue with the 3.5mm out and the RCA in is it is not a true line out but just a passive connection, so basically a Y-splitter. Pretty unfortunate but I am glad I went with Schiit instead of the V3...

With that silver volume knob it looks alot like my little Keces E40. My E40 has a phono mm stage, a pre out and two inputs. While I like the subout with variable frequency, the Keces E40 can drive a 4 ohm load and at fairly high levels before distorting. You reach noticeable distortion first with transient peaks which require lots of power bursts before it outright distorts completely. That's a level I do not typically listen too and I only experienced that on Dali Menuet SE's which drop well under 4 ohms and are rated at 83dB. That was about the 3 o'clock position on the volume knob. On my Dali Opticon 1s which do not drop below 4 ohms, I never had an issue. With 6-8 ohm speakers, and if at least 86 dB efficient, I don't think there would be any issue well above 90 dB, even at 6-8 feet away from the speakers in a moderate sized room . I like the small form factor and not many small amps provide both the power and SQ to be considered by audiophiles. The Keces E40 while limited to SPLs and requires reasonable match-ups with equipment trounces the inexpensive class D equipment IMO, although I still like the class D stuff on certain speakers. The issue is essentially price for that performance as it now costs $750 US. Although less than a Rega Brio and also an amp I prefer over the Brio, the inexpensive class D amps still provide excellent performance for their price. If price is an issue, put your money in the speakers you want and work your way up in amps, dac, etc., starting with more budget equipment. While not inexpensive, the Keces is capable of driving alot of speakers very well musically which cost as much as 3X its cost or more as long as it isn't a super difficult load to drive...IMO. If Dayton could up the power and quality of its amp/pre section, it could be a really good solution even if it would cost a bit more to do so. If you want a quality class AB amp in a small form factor and can use an external dac as well as a tt and can afford it, consider the Keces E40.

Just a guess here, but this appears to run the MA12070 IC by Infineon (how it is heatsinked) which is the same chip used by the Rogersound Labs amp. Obviously bigger and heavier because of the internal power supply.

Will you be comparing the V3 to the RSL IA 255 ? By the way, I love your videos, you’re definitely among the top 5 out there!!! Keep doing what you’re doing bud, we all love it!

@cheapaudioman

Жыл бұрын

probably not. since the RSL has tone controls I like to compare things that are like for like. or at least as close as I can get them. I think the bt20a pro and the RSL comparison is probably coming though

you are class D amplifier man as that is what you review.

The Real Thing is probably the album ive listened to the most in my life. It came out in grade 7 when i was falling in love with music. One of the first solos i learned was war pigs. Haha. Underwater Love and athe Morning After are probably my favorite songs off the album.

I hope Fosi sees this and makes a high power version like the v3. It's very hard to find anything near this price range and size with a high pass filter.

I could really use some help in setting up a proper hifi system. I know this question is asked a whole lot and let me know if there is a more appriorate place to ask it. I've been trying to figure it out myself, but I keep running into problems with components of my already existing system that may not work with products like the ones mentioned in this video. The two sources I am trying to hook into the system are a 90s-2000s Sony CD player with just a straight RCA out and an Audio-Technica AT-LPW30TK (this unit has a built-in preamp, but I'm not sure how great it is and if it would be worth upgrading to something like the project phono-box S2). I would also like to be able to do Bluetooth for digital streaming. Initially I ran these two sources into an older Yamaha receiver, the receiver out to a Polk PSW10 sub, and then using the speaker level outputs of the sub out to to a pair of JVC passive speakers I received from a neighbor (these were to replace the Edifier R1280T powered speakers I was using before with the turntable and CD player when I didn't have a subwoofer). My CD player works great with the setup. I'll be it the audio is darker than I would prefer, but it's loud and the bottom frequencies are very articulate. However, when I tried using my turntable it began to distort either immediately or halfway through a side of the record. I'm fairly confident it's the receiver, but I could be wrong. What should I do to improve this setup while keeping my subwoofer? Do I need another, better receiver or could I use an integrated amplifier such as the ones mentioned in this video? What speakers would work best with said amplifier? I am so lost and just want to be able to listen to my records again. I have at max $500 I can spend on a new setup, but the cheaper the better lol. Any help in the right direction would be so greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Please compare with RSL integrated amp Vs V3 Vs Dayton

Would it perform and sound better used as a stereo full range preamp...connected to a class D power amp? It is still a nice build preamp with extra bluetooth and standby mode feature, nowadays finding a simple active preamp is getting harder to find... Would be a good comparison in a future video...maybe next to SCHIIT MAGNI+ / NITSCH MAGNI PIETY or JDS LABS ATOM AMP + HEVI Most affordable, down to earth audio channel ever with the best intertainment reviews!!! Thanks Randy! Cheers!!! ☕

Wondering if u have thought of reviewing Dayton HTA series?

Can you test the power amplifier of Pyle?

Your the best bro😎💪

@cheapaudioman

Жыл бұрын

you are

Question : Are you able to recommend an amp , cd player and bookshelve speakers under $ 700 total for listening to George Strait, Led Zeppelin and B.B. King ? Thank you sir for your expertise and most informative channel. ~~~~ from the Philippines.

Regarding the matching DTA-100LF Subwoofer Amplifier .......Can you recommend a sub (10" / 12" etc) for this? (Maybe a part number from parts express?) Much appreciated. I await your response. Great review.

Confirming that one could utilize the RCA out from the DTA-100ST to a subwoofer amp…such as the Dayton Audio DTA-100LF.

Can a powered sub be added via the RCA Pre-Outs?

Another great review as usual. So many low-priced products are available for nearfield 2 channel listening, which is really encouraging for new to the hobby audiophiles. Thank you as always for your time, effort, and honest review. Stay well, Sir.

@cheapaudioman

Жыл бұрын

you too, Simon!

I love your channel and I would like your opinion on a low cost (less than $300) for a studio apartment sound system with bluetooth, bookshelf speakers and a subwoofer and here is what I have on my Amazon list. The Dayton Audio DTA-2.1BT2 amplifier ($85), the Audio Express Koe’ B102 speakers ($70 pair) and then finally the Acoustic Audio PSW-6 subwoofer ($100) for a total of $255. What would you suggest for the same price range and thanks!

@cheapaudioman

2 ай бұрын

If you’re in the US I’d go Fosi tb10d (sometimes $60, Wiim mini $80, and then your speakers and sub. Although the Fosi doesn’t have a sub out. But if your sub has speaker level Inputs you could still make it work

@webman1956

2 ай бұрын

@@cheapaudioman Thanks!

Topping’s updated their PA5 to PA5 II amplifier. A review would be appreciated. Hopefully won’t have an over zippy treble. $250. bucks US isn’t unaffordable if it’s listenable. From Apos.

I got the Fosi v3 to power a pair of Gallo Nucleus Micro’s then realised I’d need a HPF... any tricks I could pull here to make it work?

Were you using Bluetooth with the WIIM with Intergalactic, were you using Bluetooth? If so, the distortion could have been some digital mistracking? maybe try it one more time with a line-in vice the bluetootn.

tuff loads. tuff luv. come on dayton ppl, give this baby way more watt juice, better highs, better the BT issue, better looking knob and i’td be like the best mini amp!! compete w fosi and aiyeemuh!!! u got this

This and the new SMSL are heavier because the power supply is internal.

Can you get a standalone high pass filter that sits between the amp and the passive speakers if your amp doesn't have one built in? I have a nice sub and want to filter some bass from the speakers. Been searching and haven't seen anything for this application.

@ziggy8757

Жыл бұрын

get a minidsp

What are the advantages of these small amps compared to a sub $500 A/V receiver? By the time you get a streamer and dac you’re at $300-$500 anyways. Just curious if there’s a quality advantage or something. Doesn’t appear to have anymore power than a standard a/v receiver so I wasn’t sure. Of course I pre ordered two ZA3’s and a small set of Sony sscs 5’s to see what a small system will sound like. I just saw a 1991 pioneer elite A/V receiver for $195. I would think that unit would be hard to beat with these which are $100 more for two za3 and the cost of a dac/streamer.

Hey Randy, u failed to mention that this Dayton class D amp comes with a 5 year warranty! I am sure that will appeal to some.

@cheapaudioman

Жыл бұрын

you're right. I should have mentioned that

I have a fosi v3 saw your video. Looking for an amp with a 12v trigger input to connect to my main amp a denon avr x3800h to power the main left and right speakers. Can you help please?

FYI you can get an SPL meter app for your smart phone to level match

@cheapaudioman

Жыл бұрын

I have one but I'm usually not running a sine wave so I do it by ear with music and the spl meter but the music is dynamic so it's not a static signal

Dayton vs RSL?

what u recommend... headphone amp,,, clean ,,, accurate,,, 2x ,, 3x gain

Does anyone knows which other amps have a high pass filter?

Better than the RSL?

3:40 it's Universal voltage

DTA = Down To Amplify!

How come the manual for the Emotiva B2+ says 8ohm instead of 4ohm as a lot of reviewers say?

@cheapaudioman

Жыл бұрын

I go by what their website says emotiva.com/products/airmotiv-b2-pair-bookshelf-loudspeakers I don't think I've ever looked into the manual to check it. It may be a typo. The B1+ are 8 ohm impedance I think

No subwoofer output when running with a power amp :(

Nope, still recommend the highly underrated BRZHIFI 3255XLR with opa1622 and decoupling boards! Wipes the floor with more or less all of the 3255 chips amps so far…think Monster truck over Tonka toy!

@Panslapper

Жыл бұрын

@Click-here-to-Massage_ ?

Aiyima A03?

An amp without high pass to speakers AND low pass to preamp RCAs is a deal breaker now that I've had it with my BasX. I highly doubt the Fosi sounds better than the A07. At best, it might sound as good.

@danielh12345

Жыл бұрын

I have both, in my opinion the V3 does sound slightly better. Mostly on the bass end to be honest, it's tighter. My A07 bass sounds a bit muddier compared to the V3. That being said, the a07 is still good value for money. (I'm comparing the a07 with the stock 32 or 36v (can't remember sorry) vs the V3 with 48v btw, so may not be totally fair, idk).

@gregmatula9749

Жыл бұрын

​@@danielh12345I'm glad you mentioned the different power supply because that is the exact improvement that a bigger power supply would make. I need to get one for mine.

@danielh12345

Жыл бұрын

@gregmatula9749 I'm not sure how it works, but my A07 barely if ever went past the 12 o'clock position for reference so I assume it still had plenty of juice to give? Also, just so you're not dissapointed in the thing, it's a noticeable difference for me, but the a07 already sounds great to my ears

@carlsitler9071

Жыл бұрын

@@danielh12345 I used the a07 for a few months then I got a 2 channel BasX on sale for $300 and haven't used the a07 since. I also picked up a Marantz SR7500 for $100. I'd never use a Fosi anyway.

@danielh12345

Жыл бұрын

@@carlsitler9071 thats fair, they sound like nice units. I like the formfactor of these amps, my HiFi gear is all on / around my (work from home) desk in my studio apartment so its nice to save some space / cash haha.

Can you throw a high pass filter in line with your speakers if your amp doesnt have that ability?

@cheapaudioman

Жыл бұрын

you can doing the old school "bass blocker" method of putting a cap inline with the positive lead but that still is sending a full strength signal to the speakers. Mini dsp is also an option but that can be costly and difficult to set up. Actually a use case scenario for this product is just use it as a high pass filter" by running source into this and then this into another amp

Did you ever find a good 48 volt power supply? I’ve looked and not sure about a $50 gamble.

@cheapaudioman

Жыл бұрын

fosi sells a 48 volt 5 amp that seems to be of good quality. I'm not sure if it's on amazon or not but I'm sure it could be purchased directly from them

@markhathaway9298

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!!

😃

TL;DW -- Needs a HPF

I don't see the point of a high-pass filter on an amp, when almost all subwoofer models include a low-pass filter, other than to make subwoofer tuning easier. Especially if you're going to pay more for an amp that isn't as good, in the end, as a Fosi V3.

Parts express told me it was an industry standard to call their 3" speaker a 4" speaker. Their choice to distort reality, I now take any of their products with a huge grain of salt...

With similar features which one do you prefer? The Dayton Audio DTA-100ST or the RSL ia 255.1? I'm leaning toward the RSL because of the USB input but I don't like the 3.5mm sub/pre output.

@cheapaudioman

Жыл бұрын

the RSL had more juice so I'd probably go with that one. Also the tone controls were very useful. But the highness filter is fixed. there are benefits to both. depends on your use case.

I have to agree that a high pass on a modest system can improve it quite a bit, even without a sub! It is often better to just get by with the 2nd harmonic of the actual bass line and have the rest of the signal clean than to suffer clipping or tons of IM distortion from low frequencies that the system just can not reproduce anyway. Yes you will miss the lowest notes, but you were not going to hear them over such a system anyway! I had to go listen to intergalactic, but I still prefer Animusic's Gyrodrums for showing off bass. That said I have heard some systems where the IM distortion would have completely wrecked the vocals in intergalactic, so it is a good test song.

Is there a 240v version?

@uribar-ner5055

Жыл бұрын

@Click-here-to-Massage_ What?

In Europe I pay €240 for this. I can get 2 v3's with 48v ps for that.

@D1N02

Жыл бұрын

But the importer for Dayton is located in my home town. I could go pick it up myself.

@chrisnunya7171

Жыл бұрын

​@D1N02 I know right? I only live about a 45 minute drive from Dayton. So I could either drive or have my stuff shipped really cheap or even for free!! I got all of my stereo equipment from Parts Express! (Dayton Audio)

Why no remote? 😂

135 amp, 135 speakers. I'd almost rather just run a Bluetooth pod at that point.

This amp would Have been great if it used a 3255 with a 48v PSU. They could have done it at this price point too.

@cheapaudioman

Жыл бұрын

I think when someone makes one of those it's going to be awesome

its bad that most amps don't have a high pass miss it on the fosi-audio bt30pro but also many aktive subwoofer dont have a highpass filter only variable lowpass

no usb, no buy

pass

Junk, save your money, unless you are a cheep audio person.

This doesnt seem like a good product at all. Build quality doesnt matter so much if an amp cant do its job.

ewh..another game changer this week, at this rate the game if effed.

you lost me @ 0.43% THD

I've tried a lot of cheap micro digital amps, including Fosi Audio, Suca Audio, Fx Audio, BRZHIFI, and SMSL. Unfortunately, I've been disappointed with the sound quality. Some of the amps seem to have a weird range of frequencies, and the soundstage doesn't meet my taste. I'm going to be going back to real hi-fi equipment. I'm willing to spend more money to get the sound quality I'm looking for.

Boner Alert RANDY. Hows your living room BBQ stack RANDY?

The V3 is crap. It may use slightly higher quality components than other amps in this price range but the sound is awful and the power is nowhere near what it is claimed to be. For example, it has nothing like the power of my Quad 303 which is only rated at 2x30 Watts. The bass is really lacking compared to the quad and the clarity of the Fosi is terrible compared. My Quad was made in 1968 and cost me less than the V3.

Thanks!

@cheapaudioman

11 ай бұрын

you bet

Thanks!

@cheapaudioman

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!