i only framed for about 9 months, but what my boss told me when i asked questions about headers, was that the rule of thumb, was that for every foot that your header ran, you transformed that measurement into inches per your header. so if i had a 3 foot wide window or less, then i used a 2X header, and if i had a ten foot opening, then i used 2X10's for my headers, and if i went over 12 feet, then i would use an L:VL. he also told me that this rule was more used for cantileavers, but also applied to cut out openings, but wasnt absolute. i understood that as basic one story building methods, because obviously, at least to me, if you are building a 2 or 3/4 story house, then your headers become more important, and things like bla bla bla come into play. anyways though, ive always used this method that i was taught, to make my headers, and i pretty much always use the sandwich method myself, but im not a pro, im just a get er done side contractor, but i dont exceed my knowledge level, and ive gotten more work out of being honest about my skill limits than i have about pretending im an engineering guru, but anyways, i do want to ask if what i was taught is at a basic leve, a decent foundation to go off of?

This man is AMAZING 🤩 I can’t believe you don’t have a million views on day one. Thank you so much 🙏🏻 Definitely subscribing to your channel. Keep it coming I clip on how to build a deck and pergola would be great 👍🏻

the problem with the high header is that when framed that way, the 2x across the top of the opening doesn't provide enough nailing surface for the next trade that comes after you. As a lath and plaster contractor, the 2x is so tight that it provides little nailing surface for the lather to attach the wire to. Remember the window flange is anywhere from 1.25 to 1.50 inches out from the window and covers most of the 2x's face across the opening. this requires either blocking above the 2x across, or cranking up the nail gun and shooting through the window flange. When the header is low, there is ample space for nailing across. Framers frame to the drawings, but they need to be aware of what is going to be done all the way the interior/exterior finish. otherwise good video

you are a great teacher, I'm glad I found your video, Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

You are very welcome - thank for joining us

Thank you! Sometimes you stumble over great videos and teachers online, and I’m very happy to have stumbled over yours. Just the content I’m looking for! Love the scale models you have made to illustrate how everything goes together!

@ConstructionEd

19 күн бұрын

Gald you found us, I hope you like the other videos on our channel

Amazing! The very last point that you mentioned (Jack studs don't stop by the window header BUT goes all the way up to the top plate) was crucial to me. I learned a lot. I really appreciate you and your lessons. Thank you kindly 🙏

Thanks for all the information packed into your videos! Great presentation!

@ConstructionEd

9 ай бұрын

thank you very much

UK subscriber here. Just want to say thank you for these videos. Lots of cross Atlantic carryover here. Really great delivery and pace

@ConstructionEd

7 ай бұрын

Glad they are being viewed across the pond

These are the best framing videos I've ever seen. Thanks 👍

@ConstructionEd

5 ай бұрын

Wow, thanks!

Thank you very much for the clear explanations on header. As I am new to QS, I have been taking more than 8 days to get clarified. once again thank you very much....

Thank you! Great series.

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

You're very welcome!

These videos are incredibly helpful. Thank you. I especially appreciate the time and effort that went into making the models.

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

thanks for visiting and thanks for your comment

This is very well produced and super informative. Thank you

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

thanks - we do work hard on making educational videos

Literally answering my questions as I think of them, wow, good work, subbed.

@ConstructionEd

3 ай бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

Always have enjoyed woodworking and construction shows. This is a very informative series. Enjoying breakfast while learning. 👍👍

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

I hope you had a good breakfast, eggs and building lessons always go well together.

Excellent information and very easy to understand, great job!

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

thanks Todd

Joe, you truly have a gift for making things easy to learn! Thank You Sir!

@ConstructionEd

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! You should see the blooper reel

@thomask4836

2 ай бұрын

@@ConstructionEd - LOL! I worked for 30 years in railroad technical training so I appreciate good videos when I see them! I've been retired for almost 10 years now but I also enjoy learning from KZread and I am grateful that you took the time to do a GREAT job! Woodworking has always fascinated me but framing has been a mystery to me and you all really have the knack for making it easy! Again, Thanks So Much! Take Care, Tom

That was very helpful, soon to be installing a 71" window, will definitely follow these guidelines! Thanks!

@ConstructionEd

11 ай бұрын

Glad to hear it. We also have a video on window installation.

Great teaching 👍

Great videos! Thank you!

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

glad you liked it

This is awesome! Thank you!

@ConstructionEd

10 ай бұрын

You're very welcome!

Very informative, well explained

Muy bueno Maestro, su explicación y detalles Son bien entendidos Gracias de nuevo Se le agradece Bendiciones 👍

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment and enjoy the other lessons

Thank you for your valuable information

@ConstructionEd

11 ай бұрын

You are welcome

Excellent video

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! - I hope you watch more of our videos in the framing series. More are coming each week.

I cannot believe you do not have millions of subs man you're amazing.

@ConstructionEd

6 ай бұрын

Thanks - Maybe someday our subscriber count will be higher. Please Subscribe, Share, Like, and comment whenever you can. It helps

Great teacher!

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 😃

You are a very good teacher

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 😃

Im doing a blueprint class and this was very helpful, thankyou!

@ConstructionEd

2 ай бұрын

You're very welcome!

Hello from Monday, January 15, 2024. So great to discover your channel. New Subscriber here. Thanks for making the vids and doing a superb job explaining to the world what this "mystery" is behind building. Happy New Year!

@ConstructionEd

5 ай бұрын

Welcome aboard!

Thank you.

@ConstructionEd

2 ай бұрын

You're welcome!

thank you!

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome! And thank for visiting the channel

Again I say....thank you 👍

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

Thanks again!

Excellent presentation; no fluff, gets right to the point. I have a question about sandwich headers built on-site. Rather than simply nailing the assembly together why not glue and screw together? Is this too time consuming? Nailing seems like an inferior method compared to ‘glue-and-screw’

Thank you so much for kind of information ❤️ it's really help to understand header. I really want you to upload some videos on estimate lumber framing

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

Noted - that may be available in the future

so nice for a giant to teach us how to build

@ConstructionEd

7 ай бұрын

Joe is a little over 6 feet.

Thanks

@ConstructionEd

10 ай бұрын

you are welcome

lI am learning a lot!!

We always referred to the jack studs as cripples, i guess terminology varies in different areas

AWESOME videos. I really love the models. In the videos showing engineered headers, they appear to have two Jack Studs on each side. Is this common for larger openings with bigger headers (and bigger loads)? Is there a rule of thumb, or would the engineer specify this condition? EDIT: Next time I'll watch the entire video before asking a question. ;)

Great helpful channel, learning alot! One question is for running electrical wires, or HVAC Plumbing & electrical or otherwise from attic down to 1 Level ceiling on a 2 level building! Can you cut 1"/1.5"/2" diameter holes on both the double top plates/cap & top on exterior or interior walls framinged in? Will any of these cuts/holes made in any sizes mentioned above in any location throughout both of those two top plates hinder or disrupt the integrity to the strength of that wall?

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Fantastic video. Would appreciate more coverage on the window sills though. Split Jacks vs Continuous Jacks vs Continuous Jacks with Cripple Studs. Why are Split Jacks not meeting code in some jurisdictions? Continuous Jack would force to use toenailing and does not look super reassuring, especially in situations with only one cripple... would love to see a video on that topic (and apologies if I miss one talking about that) thanks again for the great content, much appreciated

@ConstructionEd

3 ай бұрын

In our opinion, Jack Studs should not be split. A sill can be end nailed through the face of the jack if the RO framing sequence is done in a way that allows. You will see folks frame with extra framing members under a sill at the ends. - I call them stilts because they are not true cripples. The false argument for those framing parts is that the sill holds more weight. I call this a false argument because the sill does not need to hold more weight - the windows are fastened to the RO - very little weight is actually on the sill. Advanced framing techniques encourage less lumber rather than more. We say if the lumber is not required, it should not be added.

@mingueyox

3 ай бұрын

@@ConstructionEd Thank you very much for your quick and thorough answer Joe 👍👍👍 All that make sense, indeed. In my current situation I am looking at designing a rough opening of about 10F that will actually not receive a window frame but a counter top. I suppose that in such scenario adding stilts could make sense. I was also thinking about adding a double sill as well. Many many thanks for your feedback and all your videos. They are well made and very instructive 🙏

Ok, i make this harder than it has to be apparently. How does the header get fastened? The 2*6 commected to the king stud on each side? What about if the header is at the top and that 2*6 is connected to the top plate? Screwed in from the top through the double plate and then into the header? I can't imagine a huge 8 inch screw from the bottom to fasten through the 2*6 and into the top plate..... Yeah, beginner here. Thanks in advance

@ConstructionEd

11 ай бұрын

sorry for the delay Matt. You can connect the header by face-nailing through the King Studs. Also - if you have a high header you can face nail through the top plate. The jack studs are taking the weight, and the fasteners are there just to keep in all in place

@herefornow9671

5 ай бұрын

@@ConstructionEdwhat an incredible resource!!! I am THOROUGHLY impressed This channel is a GOD send Thanks for ALL you are doing

Great video - I'm interested in learning more about the math behind determining the number and size of the header beams to support a certain span width. I assume the same header can support the same span regardless of if it's dropped or raised and in contact with the top plate so is there another benefit for using the "modern" header placement of raising it to the top?

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

I learned some of the Math in my Structural Analysis class at school, not terribly fun. Now most folks just look at the IRC code book and use those tables - or of course just do what the engineer told ya to do, lol. Yes the high header can carry the same load as the drop header - in fact it can carry a bit more when it is up tight against the top-plate. The other main benefit for a high header is later remodeling. It is nice to be able to increase the height of a window without having to replace a header...

Can you do like a kreg jig to attach to the top of your frame ?

Do you have a video showing a opening for a door on an elevation vs subgrade? That is, crawl space vs basement foundations. (Up north is mostly basements, and in the south crawl spaces.) Also what differences if any between those rough openings with balloon framing? Great series btw. I'm currently doing remodelling again, and these technical details is where I'm having trouble.

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

I am not really sure what you are asking about - the RO framing is the same over a crawl space or a basement. If the RO is in the foundation - then those are typically supported with the concrete wall and then header in place - sometimes that is in metal. Then the rest of the RO is framed out with wood so the door has something to connect to. But this construction would typically be called out on the plans and approved by an engineer. I could be wrong - but the RO framing is the same for balloon framing - but you should consult a Structural Engineer since I assume you are talking about a multistory building since you referenced balloon framing. Especially if you are dropping in a RO where there was not one before.

With the wall being load bearing Can I use 2x4s as headers for door opening of 24 inches?

Your a great instructor, I teach a carpentry class in my local adult program. What are the dimensions of those studs for the scale model you have there? I'd love to use models like those.

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

Check out our channel for teachers - www.youtube.com/@TEACHConstruction Here is the link to a video about the scaled lumber kzread.info/dash/bejne/kXVq15KogZytpdo.html

Can I cut 1 stud in the lower half from a LBW and add a header on that lower half.

Between High header and Drop header, High header seems providing more stability, why is it not commonly used? What is the disadvantage of it. Thank you.

Fantastic videos! Question…I am building basement walls with doorways. Since the walls are not load bearing can I build my door headers using 2 - 2x4’s laid flat and nailed together? Thank you so much!

@ConstructionEd

7 ай бұрын

Yes, absolutely. You can also just use one 2x4 as a header. It is not carrying any additional load, it is just needed to hang the door

What are your thoughts on the oversized header that attaches to the underside of the top plate with another 2×4 or 2x6 attached to the bottom of the header to define all the rough openings in house which in turn eliminates all the cripple studs. I've been seeing that a lot in new builds.

@ConstructionEd

6 ай бұрын

The high header placement is becoming more and more popular - I am personally a fan. But the header does not have to be oversized

Do you have a video addressing the space between the 16 on center vertical boards that provide a "chimney" effect? Re: fire safety.

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

We cover some of that in the blocking lesson, which can be found on the playlist.

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@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

It looks like you are watching all of our videos Charles - keep it up

Excellent. What is the best way to attach a thicker Header to a thicker top plate (2, 2x4 on Edge). Thank you.

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

Not sure I understand your question. When you ask about "attaching" are you asking the types of fasteners? If you are referring to the board orientation - typically a structural header has the boards on edge.

Around 8:30, the single ply header, would you carry the cripple down into the header also ?

@SinglehandedSailing

Жыл бұрын

Ronnie - yes the cripples would travel from the top plate to the header in this drop header configuration - the image at 8:30 is "section view" to show the orientation of the framing member.

Great video….. Question…I am installing a prehung double door that is 65 inches wide in a non load bearing wall in my basement. Can I use 2 flat 2x4s nailed together as a header or is the span too large? I want to avoid purchasing a sheet of 1/2” plywood to make a sandwich header? Thank you for providing such informative content.

@ConstructionEd

5 ай бұрын

Since the header is non-structural, you don't really need a header - just use some 2x4 framing. But it is likely you want something to fasten your drywall to above the door - I am assuming. In that case, you can use some other material to fill the 1/2 if you really want something in place of a header.

For the exterior openings, the framing member right at the top of the rough opening shall be designed for wind loads. While it's not an issue with small openings, it's can be a problem if this member is not sized properly for much wider opening especially when the real header is raised up against the double top plates.

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

You can meet the wind load requirements as separate from load capacity of the header

You're a great teacher. Where do I sign up?

@ConstructionEd

9 ай бұрын

we have courses at TradeSkillsU.online

11:30 For a window in a high header situation the bottom of the rough opening is the sill. What is the purple member that defines the top of the rough opening called?

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

When the header is install high, the framing member at the top of the RO is really just a nailer. I have heard it called a header plate, or a nonstructural header, we sometimes call it a header plate. But I don't think there is an "approved" term for that member.

At the 6:35 minute mark on your video, you have what appears to be a stained pallet wall behind you. Looks great. I'm using pallet wood in my music studio / office in the basement and would like to know what stain you used. Thanks in advance. PS: Framing information is quite helpful.

@ConstructionEd

3 ай бұрын

We cheated and that was from a pre-stained kit we bought from one of the big box stores - I think it was Home Depot

@ConstructionEd

3 ай бұрын

But it could have been the blue store

@wambliokiyan

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info!

I’m the last example would it make sense to break up the jack studs into two pieces or is that weaker?

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

Jacks should always be a continuous framing member. While I have see some people slips them, it is not a good idea.

Would you put adhesive for the foam board n then screw the two 2x4s?

@ConstructionEd

10 ай бұрын

Today - I would purchase insulated headers or build a box header. But if I am making a simple sandwich header, then adhesive is not required

I'm installing a pocket door on a load bearing wall. How many jack studs do I need for my header on either side?

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

Number of jack studs are determined by span and the load above. Determine the load and you should be able to find a header sizing table online or in ICC code.

The one downside of the high header, is a loss in the fastening area for window dressings. Other than that, it makes sense.

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

They do make sense in many install situations - Blocking is always easy to add if needed.

@cornpop7805

Жыл бұрын

@@ConstructionEd Rather than a high header and blocking, I would simply use a low header.

Are headers required if stud is not load bearing. i.e. small office in existing garage.

@ConstructionEd

11 ай бұрын

Headers are only required if the wall is load-bearing. If you are adding an interior partition wall you can use the same size framing lumber as the studs in place of a structural header. You are mainly creating an upper framing member to frame in your door and a place for the trim to be nailed to.

The open layout header feels riskier (I’m an absolute beginner just sharing thoughts). For example if you placed weight on the weak side of that open header where the insulation is I feel like you could have some major screw ups. Imagine building on top of that header you wouldn’t likely know that an entire side is hollow and could put weight on it in a way that could compromise it. Also I’ve heard that the first thing a piece of dimensional lumber wants to do is turn when it has weight on it (example in standing joists). Would this tumble effect be more likely to happen on the “weak” insulation side of the open header layout?

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

I often rely on the tables in the code and what the engineer has specified. I personally like the headers that are boxed with insulation in the middle.

@coyotech55

9 ай бұрын

I had never heard of that kind of header, and I was thinking the same thing. If I were a pro building from engineered plans, of course I would build it as shown. But I'm a DIYer building my house, and I don't think I'd do that kind! This was helpful. I have half my house built, and your videos show me where I went wrong (not many wrong spots, thank goodness), where I went right, and how to do it better on the rest of the house. There are so many practical things you only learn by doing. Like how do you handle it when most of your lumber is warped in at least one direction? I've gotten a lot better with that, but warped, twisted and splitting lumber is always a headache. Is there a video for that, other than to insist on picking out your own boards at the lumber yard?

For a 5 foot wide window, can you make an open box header with 2x6s' instead of getting a single ply header ???

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

it all depends on the load above - there are tables in building code to help determine the permissible header

What type of header is best for a garden shed?

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

It all depends on the load from above. On sheds, the doors are often in the gable wall with very little load to worry about.

I would quibble with the illustration on 7:34-8:36 I've always called the two plates at the top the "double top plate", the lower plate being the "First plate" and the second one being ........ "the Second plate"😉. I think that the way they are drawn might confuse students because the "Top plate" is under the Cap plate.

@thesinglestringtheory

Жыл бұрын

Thanks always for the input and for watching. There are many regional differences in terms and some builders even develop their own naming. We at TEACH try to find the most accepted and descriptive terms. You know how tricky this can be for a global audience and so many times textbook terms are not always used everywhere or by all. The cap plate (or lesser used term "crown plate") clearly describes the uppermost position in a wall. I believe anyone learning framing would struggle with understanding your preferred term "first plate" as it's name does not indicate its location in a wall frame. To a newbie, "first plate" could possibly suggest the bottom or sole plate. As for "Second plate" - if i know nothing about framing this might be a single top plate but I am unsure. Remember, a wall with a single plate only at the top is always referred to as a "top plate", so an additional one stacked above makes the group a double top plate as you said. With three basic terms used in the most current version of the IRC - top plate, double top plate, and cap plate, walls built with either a single or double top plate can be described with less confusion and a student is also being primed for learning building code (IMHO). I think we can both agree that communicating clearly through terms is just as important as tool and measuring skills when working in the field. Props to you for caring and the feedback is very appreciated!

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

I have to agree with Joe. Bottom plate, top plate, and cap plate. The last two making combined making a double top plate. Start with the text book terms and then move to field terms

What about shimming a header to eliminate gaps? Can a window slowly be destroyed if you have floating headers that slowly settle?

@ConstructionEd

19 күн бұрын

If the header is sagging and pushing on the window it can cause damage. But the best solution would be to rebuild the opening.

I'm curious about the single ply header. One would logically think the single ply would be right down the middle, like an I-beam, allowing some insulation on each side. I would think that with the single ply just on one side, there is a weakness in the structure on the other side due to not being in balance. The load of the wall is down the middle, not the side, and I-beam construction, be it metal or a wooden I-joist, is "I" shaped for a reason. How is the strength of the header not impacted when moving the support from the center to the outside (or inside) edge?

@ConstructionEd

6 ай бұрын

While you are likely correct that moving the header from the middle to the edge could result in less strength. But the additional strength is not needed.

What’s the minimum rough opening height for an exterior out swing door that’s 30 inches x80 inches? My opening height is 83 inches

@ConstructionEd

11 ай бұрын

It depends on the door that you are installing. The specs will call out the dimensions, but with 3 inches to work with you likely have enough space

I didn't think a solid wood header would be considered a heat loss. Wood has 'R' value. But is the R value of wood less than insulation board? Log cabins are known for having good R value without insulation. Opinions please...

@ConstructionEd

2 ай бұрын

Wood is about R1 per inch. Insulation is much higher

For a 12' sliding glass door on an exterior wall, it appears that a 12' 6" header is required with double jacks. How many kings will be needed? Thank you

@ConstructionEd

2 ай бұрын

Code header tables for you location should call that out. Sometimes it is a double jack and a single king.

@chuckstires2038

2 ай бұрын

Thank you.

Two 2x4’s and osb in the middle adds up to 3 1/2 ? How ? 2+2 = 4 plus the osb . So what am I missing

@codywhitfield200

Жыл бұрын

3” + 1/2”= 3&1/2” Nominal number is 2x4 Actual is 1.5”x3.5”

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for jumping in on the comment Cody - He is right, the actual dimension of a 2x4 is 1 1/2" x 3 1/2" - We cover that on our materials lesson video in detail.

@lolol7110

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Cody

@lolol7110

Жыл бұрын

Thanks . I’m subscribed now !

Say if I had a 6"monoletic pore wall all the way around but I want to have 2x8 floor joist and 2x4 framing for the interior walls how do I do it

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

if you are asking about the floor construction it all depends on the span distance of the joists and the loads you are expecting on the floor. As far as 2x4 walls, that is fine depending on the usage and your local code. Meaning 2x4 may not provide for enough installation in cold climates- but in warmer zones it is often allowed. I am sure that does not answer your question, but much more information is required to design a floor.

@vincentpereira8416

Жыл бұрын

@@ConstructionEd 24" span

@vincentpereira8416

Жыл бұрын

It's in south America it's a warm climate

@vincentpereira8416

Жыл бұрын

I will be adding drywall on the interior its going to be a 3 story house and it's going to be 40ftx60ft

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

3 stories is a lot of weight for only a 2x8 joist. I would check with an engineer

wouldnt two 2X4s and a 1/2 inch layer end up being 4.5 inches thick and not 3.5? am I missing something? thank you

@ConstructionEd

6 ай бұрын

No - a 2x4 is just the name of the framing materials. The Actual measurements are 1 1/2 '' x 3 1/2 ''

Your videos are very helpful. But I find that in most of the videos the education leans, towards a basic install. Carpenters need to know to fasten headers to top plates, how many nails to use, for what size lumber. To nail to king studs per code, nail size, number of nails. Most of all to be able to find the information in a techno world we live in. Your basic viewer doesn't know that 3 nails go to 2X6s walls, 2 for 2X4 walls and so on. Even in the AF&PA Wall frame manual doesn't give anyone the count. R602.7.1 is the same, so were can the audience get this type of information.

Got it, but where do our strong man ties come in?

I don't understand the dimension numbers for the sandwich header. If I put 2 2x4s and a 1/2" osb in between them doesn't that create a dimension of 4 1/2 inches? Same with the triple sandwich header, 3 2x4s and (2) 1/2" osb in between, doesn't that create a dimension of 7 "?

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

The actual dimension of a 2x4 is 1.5'' x 3.5'' - Watch our lesson on Dimensional lumber for more info on that kzread.info/dash/bejne/mXyNu5WkdNq-eNI.html

@bxblack

Жыл бұрын

Even thouught they call the lumber 2x4 or 2x6 for example... its not the actual size if you measure it.....

@StevenDavanna

Жыл бұрын

They shave 1/2” off the lumber to remove discrepancies

if only we had more guys like this around.... a boy with a tool in each hand has no hands left to do drugs or simp for women on only fans.....

@ConstructionEd

Жыл бұрын

If it were only that easy

Teach guys to not leave there piss jugs and bottles in the walls

@ConstructionEd

6 ай бұрын

I have unfortunately see this, but I thinking trying to TRAIN it is a bad idea is too late - that should be momma's job

The affect of thermal bridging on ambient room temperature is minuscule, it’s not even worth mentioning. There’s no need to insulate a header or exterior corners and T’s.

@ConstructionEd

7 ай бұрын

While the effects of thermal bridging are somewhat debatable, and sometimes unavoidable the 2021 IECC and IRC require several mitigation steps