All 15 Automatic Transmissions (Powerglide to 10L90)
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Amazing timeline of GM V8 auto transmissions: best for LS swap, 4L80 vs 4L70, best replacement for TH350, plus transmissions to avoid, plus much more.
Links to check prices:
PowerGlide
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TH350
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TH400
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200-4R
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700-R4
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4L60 & 4L60-E
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4L65-E
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4L70-E
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4L80-E
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4L85-E
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6L80-E
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6L90-E
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8L90-E
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10L80-E
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10L90-E
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0:00 - Overview
0:44 - Powerglide (2-speed)
1:27 - TH400 (3-speed)
2:03 - TH350 (3-speed)
2:23 - 200-4R (4-speed)
3:10 - 700-R4 (4-speed)
4:05 - 4L60 (4-speed)
4:19 - 3L80 (3-speed)
4:25 - 4L80-E (4-speed)
5:54 - 4L85-E (4-speed)
6:19 - 4L60-E (4-speed)
7:04 - 4L65-E / 4L70-E (4-speed)
7:31 - Transmission Naming
8:29 - 5L40 / 5L50 (5-speed)
8:36 - 6L80 (6-speed)
9:58 - 6L90 (6-speed)
10:15 - 8L90 (8-speed)
11:24 - 10L90 (10-speed)
12:02 - 10L80 (10-speed)
12:53 - LS Swap Survival Guide eBook
14:57 - Free eBooks
15:37 - Cool Posters
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Brother can you do one on GM manual transmissions please ? They are iconic too man 😬🫣
@808kahulaa
Ай бұрын
he's planning to, previous/ original video of this, I asked and he replied that it's in the works
@Thumper68
Ай бұрын
Love my Muncie.
@adeadlyfart13
Ай бұрын
Agreed that would awesome!
@AutoGuild
Ай бұрын
Okay looks like your post got 23 thumbs up. For sure I will do a manual transmission. I was actually already planning on it. I'm swapping my 68 Camaro from an automatic to a manual. But I'm working on my e-book right now so it may be a while, hopefully this summer. I'm a manual guy and have been driving a manual transmission as my daily driver since I was 22
@southsidehtx1
Ай бұрын
@@AutoGuild man I appreciate that brother !! You give pretty solid information I appreciate what you said in the big and small block comparisons I have a 65 Impala SS with the original L74 engine and original M20 4 speed it’s such a great ride ..you couldn’t go wrong with those old Muncies !
The 200r4 was never in the corvette. The th350 with a lock up converter was used in 81. The 4L85E also had straight cut planetary gears for strength.
I had a 1993 Silverado with a 5.7 and 4L60E. The original trans lasted until 118,000 miles and lost 2nd gear, so i had it overhauled. That build lasted until 258,000 miles. Then it developed the notorious 1st to 2nd slam shift due to a worn check ball passage. I sold the trans to a Jeep builder at that point because the truck had bad salt cancer.
@hugieflhr03
8 күн бұрын
I had a similar experience and it was the best 93 z71 gmc I ever had. The engine, front end , axles and body were never touched for 258,000 miles. The frame rust eventually got too bad and had to be sold.
Turbo-Hydramatic 425 (TH425 or THM 425,[1] later 325) was an automatic transmission developed and produced by General Motors. The THM425 was a derivative of the THM400; most parts directly interchange and some others will interchange with minor modifications. The internal parts spin the opposite direction in the THM425; the helical angle of the planetary gears is "reversed" and the one-way clutches freewheel in the opposite direction, for example. The THM425 was developed for the 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado and the 1967 Cadillac Eldorado.
@zacharymorris9917
Ай бұрын
The first time I saw a "TH400" in a front wheel drive car I was blown away.
@mattrodgers4878
Ай бұрын
There is also a fwd used in the mid 80s riviera, Toronado and Eldarado based on the 2004r trans. I believe it was referred to as the 325-4L
@ronreyes9910
Ай бұрын
Also used in the GMC Motorhome (RV).
@AutoGuild
Ай бұрын
Yeah there were a lot of transmissions that I didn't cover, unfortunately just didn't have the time to do them all. I tried to cover the mainstream transmissions that most of my LS swapping viewers would enjoy
@NorthernChev
Ай бұрын
@@AutoGuild…you know you’re responding to a bot farm account, right?
Owned a colorado with a 4L60e, can confirm they are one of the slowest slushboxes available
1:21 Chevy had one in the corvairs that you could push start, which is pretty unique for a auto.
@petercraig806
7 күн бұрын
Early aluminium powerglides could also be tow started . They had a rear pump as well as the normal front pump .
Powerglide was phased out by 1974. I had one in a 1973 Nova, and I really liked that transmission.
@lucysmith4242
Ай бұрын
I threw one away when I got my 71
@2Cheap4society
28 күн бұрын
I love it when the band was loose in the powerglide, you hit the kick down and free revs and slams into first gear. My buddy had a 68 LeMans with a 400 power glide it was fun!
@MichaelandCathy1999
28 күн бұрын
Owned as my first car a 1969 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme Convertible , cherry red exterior and black top/interior. It had the Rocket V-8 350, backed up by the Powerglide, 2 gears was all I needed to get by other cars. 👍🇨🇦
@robertmcconnell3788
28 күн бұрын
I still have a 64 Impala with the powerglide!
@johnfoster7602
24 күн бұрын
The 5L40 was also used in the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky. I had a 2 speed in a 1967 Pontiac Firebird OHC straight 6. Was it a Power glide or something else?
Also the THM350B, which at least Buick used in mid-sized cars with smallblock V8' from '71 to '73. Essentially a heavy duty THM350 with extra clutches. Then there was the TH350 with a lockup converter... Then the THM400 'Switch-Pitch", has a converter with 2 different stall speeds.
@HansBelphegor
23 күн бұрын
My 81 camaro had the locking one
I had a "cast iron" case PowerGlide in a 57 Chevy with a 61 spec 283 FI. The only good advantage was the Iron case Powerglide, the bands could be adjusted externally without pulling the pan.
@StephenViola-ib8dq
6 күн бұрын
They had no pan on cast Iron Glide.
This is the series that my nerdy GM self has always wanted and needed. Thank you 🙏🏻
You're a real one with some solid info. Im glad i found your channel. You can bet your bottom dollar that I downloaded your books and share you channel with those wondering where i get my Chevrolet knowledge from
I’m new to the world of Chevrolet stuff, I really love the content. It’s so informative and easy to understand. Thank you for the amazing content.
Thank you for this detail. I have been looking for this content for a long time.
My 1955 Chevrolet 3600 had the Hydramatic 4 sp. ORIGINAL. 1st gear was what I would call a Granny .......in the owners manual it listed at full throttle it came out of 1st at between 5-7 mph. !
Thanks for uploading with info on the 4L60-E. Previous video didn’t mention it
@AutoGuild
Ай бұрын
Yeah I had scripted it and had it ready to go but I totally forgot to record it. So I had to delete the video with 50,000 views and repost it. So painful.
loved the flow chart
Awesome video! The knowledge you’ve tracked down and shared with us is worth a like and subscribe!
Those Transgo kits come in different types for various different transmissions. You can get them in stage 1/2 (quicker shifts, but still auto) or stage 3 which is stage 2 shifts with full manual shifting. Highly recommend
Thank you I ordered the downloads and appreciate your hard work!
you have RWD labeled as Transverse... you have the descriptions backwards. Transverse is FWD and Longitudinal is RWD
@preachers4135
7 күн бұрын
You saw that also. I was wondering if it was an honest mistake or intentional to get comments.
The ONLY reason the OEM's spent the million to develop 8- and 10-speeds was to meet emissions and mileage rules - keep the engine in as narrow an rpm band as possible, then tune it to meet the regs. So the EPA drove up the cost of vehicles, PLUS the cost of repairs (go price a 10-speed rebuild). Compare that to the amount of fuel saved and reduced emissions, both of which are so small as to be insignificant.
@xmo552
25 күн бұрын
How many overdrives do they have, 2?
I run the 4L60 in my '71 F250 4x4. Love it....
this content is so specific and im glad i found it
so informative. barely diving into the GM modding stuff with my Yukon and theres so many choices
Great video as usual. Wishing you well on your channel. Need to get you up to 100K.
@AutoGuild
Ай бұрын
Would love to get there by the end of the year, 100,000 viewers. Thanks for the comment
Precision Transmission on KZread has some great videos on rebuilding 4L60E transmissions so that they can handle more power.
Fantastic information good sir! Thank you!
Great video. Thanks for sharing your research!
I'm perfectly happy with the TH400 in my '88 Chevy G30 work van. Bought it '94 as a former GTE fleet vehicle with 85,000 on the OD. The odometer broke at 93,000 so I decided to wait until the speedo cratered to replace the unit. That hasn't happened yet so think the original 5.7 and TH400 has around 300,000 of use with no breakdowns.
I will wait and pay for it. Your information is valuable.
Thanks for all the info! Great video
Wow. Nice video. Consider making eBooks regarding the powertrian: differentials, suspension (such as FE6), stabilitrak... etc.
Thanks for the great information, and Really Thanks for the Ebook 👍 I wish there was info about the Hydramatics of the 50s, they were bad _ss, or the Dynaflows. Subscribed!
Great video, I think you overlooked the 200C and the Superturbine 300/Jetaway transmissions.
Just jammed a 6l80e into a 1971 Riviera. It fits with no trouble, and I still have 5 inches of ground clearance under the pan.
I liked my Ford 4EOD. Even after 300,000 miles it never slipped or skipped.
excellent video!!
Another killer video!!
The manual mode was not limited to the 8 and 10 speed units. Not sure what year it was introduced, but the manual shift mode was also available on the 6L80/6L90. I know for sure they were in the trucks in 2017.
@wigletron2846
19 күн бұрын
I have the 6L80 in an 09 G8 and it has manual shift mode. Have also driven early 2010s vans with the 6L90 and they too had manual shift.
I need this book!
Awesome video. Thanks. I would love a 4L85E for my ‘94 C2500 6.5td
5:05 weight is not the only downside of the 4L80, it has a much narrower gear spread. First is 2.48 compared to the 4L60’s 3.059 and it even has a shorter overdrive at 0.75 vs 0.696. There was a company making a wider first and second gear for an 80 but from what I’ve read they were weaker than stock. TCI developed a 6 speed version of the 4L80 with a 2.97 first gear. The 6L80 has a 4.03 first gear. Many things to consider.
A video like this one but on Ford's automatics would be amazing. I know you are more of a chevy channel, but it would still be very cool!
They might refer to the turbo 350 as a three speed powerglide. But it has enough differences that they don't do the same thing a powerglide does. Other than the obvious third gear. And that is the fact that the pump is driven by the input shaft instead of the output shaft. Which means that you can't push start a turbo 350 but you can with the powerglide.
@concretesteelmsn
16 күн бұрын
you got that wrong it is the other way around
@theEVILone0130
14 күн бұрын
@@concretesteelmsn I'm not sure i understand what your saying. The early cast iron and early aluminum cases I believe at least until 1964 had front and rear pumps. If you had a battery going bad place the tranny in neutral get the car going about 15 miles an hour and with the key in the on position you put the tranny in low and it would fire off and you were good to go. The power glide is a two speed two pump transmission. The turbo 350 has three gears and a single front pump leaving it and the following trannys not push startable. I've lost count of the times I've pushed started my 64 Impala. But I've never even attempted it on the turbo 200, 350,400 or the 4L80E and I'm not going down the rest of the list of automatics they have out now.
@petercraig806
7 күн бұрын
The powerglides with a rear pump also had a front pump and it was only the early powerglides that had the rear pump .
Well done!
Import driver, always love muscle but who can afford? Planning on a project hearse and it may be an automatic. Seems like rebuilding a trans would make a fun project itself. Thanks for the vid!
Well done man 4l80 ftw
The 5l40 and 5l50 were also used in the BMW E46 3 series
Cool video.🤔👍
You missed the TH200 intended for 6l and 305 2V engines. Ended up installed in 350 4V Impala and Caprice cars. Of course the increased vehicle weight and engine torque caused a bit of trouble, eventually repaired. Then they added the OD.
73 Monte Carlo I love that transmission I should have kept that
This channel is a gold mine of information!
I had a 1961 Pontiac Bonneville Bubble back with a 4 speed automatic transmission, you missed that one !
You should have fun delving into the TH-180/3L30 that became the 4L30E.
When will the LS swap e book be released? Thanks for the great content.
The PCS TCM-2650 allows the later model 6 speeds to be swapped behind earlier EFI & even carbed engines. It may also work with the 8 & 10 speeds, but I'm not sure on those.
FYI The cast iron powerglide was used in my 62 with the blue flame 6 cyl.
4L70E was also used in the Vortec Max trucks
You should do more contect on Hemi engines and Chrysler transmissions.
The 4L85-E Also I believe had Strait cut first gears.
You missed the Turboglide ( I had one in my 1960 348 powered Impala convertible).It was a forerunner to the now popular continuously variable transmission designs. The one-forward-speed automatic with a torque converter was totally different from its two-forward-speed Powerglide sister. You also missed the 3 speed Hydra-matic that I had in My 1960 Oldsmobile Super 88 conv.Please update this so Your video is correct for the younger generations!
I'm an old car guy, I seen a 57 Chevy Belair at a car show with a Turboglide transmission, it was orginal low mileage car with the orginal transmission. It would be very interesting to me to know detail information on this transmission. Thanks!
You have most GM automatics except for the early Hydramatic ,one version being a 4 speed auto that came in some Canadian GMC trucks , I seen a 1957 with one of them behind a 283 2 barrel.
@AutoGuild
Ай бұрын
Yeah there are quite a few transmissions that were not on my list that were built for just a few years or in low volumes or are not really for performance applications. I try to focus mainly on V8 automatic transmissions which is where my viewers are with their builds
An interesting detail I noticed when debating a 10L vs 8L: for a tall tire, tall rear gear vehicle, there is no tangible difference. Not even when towing. The two extra gears are basically useless unless you're running a short tire and low gearing.
@AutoGuild
Ай бұрын
Yeah the car companies are so focused on fuel economy I think that's why you see the extra two gears with the 10 speed even though it's probably only 1 or 2% more efficient versus an eight speed
@zacharymorris9917
Ай бұрын
@AutoGuild it would have to be a ridiculously miniscule difference. Top gear is virtually identical, weight is virtually identical, and power loss is virtually identical. Like you said, if it's a MPG difference it will be 1-2% at best. On my pickup, that would be right at 2-4 tank fills per 100,000 miles. Pointless.
@southsidehtx1
Ай бұрын
@@AutoGuild yea and I notice that the more auto gears they put the lower the gears are on the rear end ..I see 10 speed autos with a 2.77 rear ..trash !!!!
The 6L80/90 are some of the best automatics you can buy.
200-4R had a better rpm spread between 1st and 2nd than the 700-R4, and could also shit into overdrive at WOT, whereas the 700-R4 you had to lift and reapply throttle to go into OD at high speeds.
How about the hydromantic in the 50's Oldsmobile's and Cadillac. I believe here were some prewar also.
@jmflournoy386
13 күн бұрын
and tanks with the cad flathead v8
interesting video, although i live in england so i will probably never utilise this information
I noticed you didn't include th 4.3 ecotec 3 v6. I am looking to swap into an s10. This would help a lot.
Good video but the 81 corvette did not get 200-r4. It came with a TH350C.
As a diehard PONTIAC fan (with no General Motors politics to hold me back), u didn't mention the Super Turbine 300 two-speed transmission that came in the B.O.P. bolt pattern. I had one behind a 350 PONTIAC in a Le Mans. It's maybe a weaker trans than the powerglide but, i hope u include more B.O.P. & Cadillac transmissions in future videos. Thanks.
@jmflournoy386
13 күн бұрын
not weaker it had a switch pitch stator good trans
I will take a properly prepped TH200 4R over anything on the list. Better gear ratio combos than the other 4sp OD units.
Would have been nice if you mentioned about the 2-speed jet-a-way transmission with the switch pitch tork convertor as well ss the the switch pitch 400 turbo found in the Oldsmobile, Buick, & Cadillac's only that had and external switch to adjust the RPM stall of the tork converter ...they were the best transmission's set up you can take a small block 2-speed jet-a-way transmission switch pitch tork converter and swap it out i to the 400 turbo that would allow for a higher stall speed and put a switch on the shifter to manually control the stall of the conveter when I set (power) the switch in the up position I'm in high stall, when I turn tge switch down (power) the low stall direct drive on the converter great for drsg racing without buying expensive high stall tork converter just go to the wreckers snd look through the Buick / Olds section for the small block 2-speed and big block 400 these transmissions looked exactly the same as the chevy transmission's only difference was the switch on the left side the convertor and pump assembly to handle the extra tork from the Buick & Oldsmobile's
@xmo552
25 күн бұрын
Yup
4l80 is badass
Bad ass video ! Full of information. You can tell you did your homework..... Speaking of swapping transmissions,... A couple years ago , I swapped the stock 305/th350 in my 78 firebird, to a 355/700R4...... As far as size and position (relative to the stock engine location ) , would a 4L60E be a direct swap for my 700R4 ?
@turkeyssr
Ай бұрын
Somewhere there is a list of the lengths which is I believe is the deciding factor for a direct swap (other than electronic interface for shifting). YES, we need the author of the video to weigh in, please.
@Thumper68
Ай бұрын
Yes but 4L60E is electronic. You would want a 4L60 no E.
@AutoGuild
Ай бұрын
Go to Google and search this: 700R4 To 4L60E Transmission Swap On A 1989 Pontiac Trans Am - Electronic Overload
@AutoGuild
Ай бұрын
Search this on google: 700R4 To 4L60E Transmission Swap On A 1989 Pontiac Trans Am - Electronic Overload
You have the 5L40 as being introduced in 2003-04, yet my 2002 BMW 330xi, which has a build date of 2001, has the GM 5L40 in it.
Great video, but I noticed at about the 8:00 mark you have fwd and rwd drive reversed on your pics.
@dadgarage7966
25 күн бұрын
Yeah, that's kind of a big deal when the topic is centered around GM's longitudinally-mounted transmissions.
When will the swap guide be done?
Forgot one very important ( due to lawsuits and failures) automatic transmission used on full size V8 GM cars equipped with the 305 and diesel 350... The infamous GM TH200 metric 3 speed transmission that eventually became the 4 speed TH200R4 that was used in the Grand national... But by then was a much better and stronger transmission than it's 3 speed metric counterpart... Also the TH250 as well... But I'm not as well versed on that one... Then you had the TH350
There is so much aftermarket stuff that could be covered like i remember a 5 and 6 speed 4l80e option but im not sure anyone is even making it still because a 6l90 probably makes more sense
What about the LCT 1000/2000 series ? They lived behind the 8100 Vortec (496) in 2002-2006 GMT800 from class 2 to class 6, and of course, the Duramax. The 8 and 10 speeds are awful busy shifting units, and not to my liking, personally, but I would encourage anyone to install whatever _they_ want, in their build. Informative vid.
@AutoGuild
Ай бұрын
Yeah I didn't cover the heavy-duty transmission stuff. My channel is mostly focused around LS engine swaps and performance cars
A couple to add to the list 4L75 and Allison 5,6 and 10 speed. The 5 speed Allison could be had behind the 8.1L BBC. the 6 and 10 were Duramax.
I have a 2015 Suburban, 204,000 miles and I am on my 3rd transmission. I am really feeling it. Only 80,000 miles on last tranny. Ugh….
Do the 3 pedal cars too 👌🏽
What about the TH 375 ? I had one and man it was a pain to figure out what it was and find a yoke for it
My Airstream 454, finally ate the TH400HD. So the 454 will be getting a 4l80EHD. Or maybe I will try for a 4L85 HD.
Hell yeah my 94 Z28 is on 4L60E #3!!!!
@aaronnoyb
Ай бұрын
Three in thirty years, you must only drive it to church on Sundays.
@xmo552
25 күн бұрын
Yay 4 neutrals
You missed all the 50’s dyna flow Buick, and Oldsmobile transmissions. As well as the early Cadillac models.
@AutoGuild
Ай бұрын
I know I'm sorry for not covering the BOP transmissions. The video would have been too long!
@shootermcgavin2819
Ай бұрын
that deserves its own separate video
@wyattlewis8671
29 күн бұрын
Didn't mention the most overrated transmission of all time either: the Allisons used in 3/4 ton and up trucks.
@m3rdpwr
28 күн бұрын
The 200 r4 would fit Chevy, or BOP. I used a 700R4 with my Oldsmobile motor and used a TCI conversion plate to use it.
Thanks for all the great info.
@AutoGuild
Ай бұрын
Hey thanks so much for the tip, it's actually only the second one I've ever gotten, really appreciated. Are there any other video subjects that you'd like to see from me?
@watajob
Ай бұрын
@@AutoGuild That's surprising and disheartening. I don't think people are aware of the work involved nor the arbitrary nature of the income from YT.
Not sure I agree with the statement about the 700r4 around 3:30. The 700r4 I don’t think was ever used behind any 454 or in any 2500/3500 series truck. Square body trucks 2500/3500 series got th400 transmissions, then the 1991, still a square body style 3500 series trucks got the 4L80e. Prior to 1991 all dually trucks were th400 trucks. The new body style in 1988 didn’t offer the 454 with the 700r4 either. The only c1500 in the 1988 and up body style to get the 4L80e was the 1991-1993 454SS trucks. Regular 1988-1995 C1500 trucks didn’t get the 4L80e. 2500/3500 1988-1995 trucks got the 4l80e.
I am interested in swapping out the TH400 on my 78 Suburban with a 454 (496). I have heard that the TH700R4 is the best transmission for my K20 Suburban as it is only 2 inches longer and has the same rear cover bolt pattern as the TH400 so I can bolt them up without major conversion issues. Your thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.
Is the Supermatic 4l85e a direct swap in a 4L85e application??
Is this only covering Longitudinal transmissions? If not, what about the 9TXX series?
Great video but… You seem to have missed one. Ready? The early 60’s Turbo-Glide, yep. Almost seems like it kinda resembled a CVT, but fluid coupled.
@mikehiers4819
Ай бұрын
Turboglide link en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turboglide
@pmotorsports8276
Ай бұрын
@@mikehiers4819dynoflo also
@pmotorsports8276
Ай бұрын
Dyno flow also
@mikehiers4819
Ай бұрын
Dang, The things that go by in the decades that fly by!
When I had my 67 Firebird's transmission rebuilt, I thought I had a Powerglide 2spd transmission. I was wrong, Yes it is a 2 spd but it is a ST300 2spd by Buick . Pontiac used it as did Buick .
@jmflournoy386
13 күн бұрын
variable pitch stator also found as switch pitch in th 400
I know 5 people whose Chevy truck transmission went out at 100-150k miles last year, mechanics said their pumps are garbage.
Always thought the 40-60-80 (in 4L60E...) designated the number of teeth on the sun gear......
The strength Rating possibly relates to metric Torque 60=600Nm. What do you think?
Great video. I have a low mileage 2001 LS Camaro in beautiful condition. It's Procharged and makes over 500/500 to the wheels. I'd like to make more but I'm pretty limited by the tranny. I don't really like the available options I'm aware of. I need at least 4 gears. So we start at the 4l60e(which it has now with some minimal upgrades). A built 4L60 gets really expensive, will still be in danger over 600whp or so, and honestly I'm not that big a fan of it. The 4L80 can be built to handle my power goals but it's darn near 100 pounds heavier, expensive, and doesn't excite me very much. Honestly after that I'm not really sure what goes into making a more modern tranny work in my application. Something like the 6l90 sounds ideal as it is modern and won't need to be built up a ton because it's already made to handle good power. But as I learned in your video the housing dimensions are big and they might have some reliability issues(?). I am at a loss what to do. I can't articulate why I don't like the 4Ls in performance applications but they just don't feel that fun or exciting to me(even with a high stall converter). I would rather not pour all my savings into something I won't be in love with but as of right now it's looking like my only realistic option. I would love to hear your thoughts and possibly a video. Over the many years KZread has existed I've only subscribed to 2 channels because I feel the yt algorithm does a good job bringing me to what I want to see and there is no reason for me to mess with success. However, I found this video very insightful and eagerly await more. You will now be my 3rd subscription ever. Great work.
@AutoGuild
Ай бұрын
Yeah sporty bill at 70-100lbs heavier 4L80 is hard to accept. Your car sounds super fun. Even a five speed would be ideal. I'm actually a hard-core manual transmission guy, so I'm converting my 68 Camaro into a manual, I think that's where the fun is! Thanks on the subscription. I'm actually subscribed to by think around 300 channels which is crazy but I watch mostly KZread in my free time I don't watch too much regular TV. I have a few other videos you may like if you want to check out the rest of my channel. Thanks for joining
@xmo552
25 күн бұрын
Borgeson, look at a th200-4r
@robertborgeson1821
24 күн бұрын
@@xmo552 I appreciate your advice. In my cursory search it doesn't seem like it can handle much more power than a 4l60, nevermind a decent 4l80. Is there something I'm missing? Even the higher end built versions seem to be rated for like 475hp max and I'm already making that to the wheels with plans to go even further. Thanks for your help.
@xmo552
24 күн бұрын
@@robertborgeson1821 I didn't look at their specs. I assumed they were currently handling more. You may have to give up extra gears. If you're open to that (or If you're forced to go that way) you could go to a Powerglide. In my case for a street truck/tow/hauler in an old truck. : I don't want to lose my th400. I don't want many electronics. I want/need an overdrive. I'm going with a Gear Vendors. It will give me overdrive in 3 gears. 1st, 1 OD, 2nd, 2 OD, 3rd, 3 OD. 6 forward gears. I keep my vehicle in the powerband without searching for gears. It can be automatic or manually done. A big benefit for me is I can tow in (.78) overdrive and the GVWR is 30k I think. In my truck the additional length is a non issue. Draw backs for me: 1) th400 is a non lockup. 2) th700-r4 OD is .70 3) th200-4r OD is .68 Another benefit is I keep my 4.56 in the back for launch and heavy loads. With GearVendor in high OD that now acts like a 3.55 rear gear for cruising. If I have to I can change that later if I want higher. 4l80 looked good but if I swapped in that trans I may as well do a full LS swap. The current plan is a TPI turbo. Plan B is Cummins. Check out the Gear Vendors site. They have units for many different transmissions. Maybe they have a possible combination you haven't considered. I already mentioned 2 GM muscle car transmissions. I know you probably won't want to adapt a Ford but..... C6, toploader, t56. T56 Chevy, Viper, Terminator. Lastly Mopar has great transmissions. The 426 Hemi 4 speed manual or the legendary 727 TorqueFlight. The 727 evolved into the 46re, 46rh, 47rh, 47re, 48re. The modern TorqueFlight Dodge transmissions don't have a great record behind a Cummins. Fix it with upgrades and you're golden. My long bed 4 door 4x4 dually Ram has a 48re with all the goodies. Besides the transmission... the truck is 100% stock. In my case stock is 325HP and 600TQ. Zero issues. It's a big trans for a Camaro, but maybe. Idk. Last idea would be a GM Allison. Again it's a big truck trans, but that may be your huckleberry.
@xmo552
24 күн бұрын
@@robertborgeson1821 I think you answer will be found by playing with gear calculators and ultimately choosing an older trans like I did + GV. Look at the Tractor Pull and Truck Pull world. Those are brutal torque test. My buddy does that in the gasoline class. He whoops butt on the big blocks and even diesels and he's running a 355 SBC th350 combo. The staple is th400 or PG. The diesel classes are usually running their stock trans model but built to the hilt.
So I preordered your LS Swap guide book and I paid with Apple Pay and it was $0.00! Do I pay something later? How much do I have to pay when it comes out? 😅