Just a quick one from me guys, I may do an announcement video on this however I thought id drop it here first. Thanks to everyone of you, I have been invited to attend the world premiere of Alien Covenant, along with the alien day event I still cant quite believe it. So another heartfelt thank you from me to you! I will be seeing covenant on thursday, reviews will be released the moment I am allowed to!

@loveSc7

7 жыл бұрын

omg you'll see covenant on this thursday??? Can you just do impression video with no plot revealing? I'm sure there will be embargo until XYZ, but an impression would be cool :)

@MrHReviews

7 жыл бұрын

no I'm afraid I can't, at all, Im unable to give even the smallest of subjective reactions away until the embargo lifts. but on the plus side, all of my videos will be ready to release the moment i can :)

@jacenstarhunter8988

7 жыл бұрын

Mr H Reviews: Do you have a non related Alien or Predator video this week?

@MrHReviews

7 жыл бұрын

I have two :)

@jacenstarhunter8988

7 жыл бұрын

Mr H Reviews Excellent! lol

The answer is in the message David sent to the Weyland Yutani corp: "I found a rotting paradise. I washed this world clean as a gift to her (E.Shaw). We could have built a new. A second Eden. But she refused..."

@Noname-iz9uo

4 жыл бұрын

So basically, his love for Shaw made him crazy.

@davidlime5891

Жыл бұрын

David - Lucifer - is creating his own serpent race, later morphing into locusts from the pit. His army. Rev 9%11. Engineers - Elohym, Genesis 1, serpent humanity. Not the same as Genesis 2 were Christ Himself creates Adam and Eve. See Strongs Concordance, precise ling.translation. See also Jon%athan Kl%eck You Are E%xiles. The truth about this world is terrifying.

@cautarepvp2079

Жыл бұрын

@@Noname-iz9uo yea.. and he killer her, and used her corpse, what a bastard

@adamdresch

Жыл бұрын

I wonder what it was he saw, or discovered that made him decide it was rotten?

@jaysparrow6631

9 ай бұрын

@@adamdreschaction speaks louder than words! That’s what he saw that made him flip the switch… 😢

Fun fact: David which is not just a hebrew name but also a name from Sumer "Tavid" meaning bringer of darkness.

@higryjh

7 жыл бұрын

david kill a giant with a stone

@realcyberpirate

7 жыл бұрын

LOL

@marksworld1986

7 жыл бұрын

i found out tavid is celtic and means "Son of David", do you have a link with tavid meaning bringer of darkness. I googled it and could not find any reference to check on :-) do you mean with Sumer , Sumerian? or what is Sumer :-)?

@RoyalDog214

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah I don't think the writer would actually waste time going through those details. Most likely because David was just a plain and simple name for a humanoid.

@BioClone

7 жыл бұрын

Isnt that like suppose prometheus its just the name for a ship? ;) "best known as the deity in Greek mythology who was the creator of mankind and its greatest benefactor, who stole fire from Mount Olympus and gave it to mankind. Ancient myths and legends relate at least four versions of the narratives describing Prometheus, his exploits with Zeus, and his eternal punishment as also inflicted by Zeus. There is a single somewhat comprehensive version of the birth of Prometheus and several variant versions of his subjection to eternal suffering at the will of Zeus."

David's discovery: "Xenomorphs make more money than Engineers."

Maybe Shaw wanted to know the reason why engineers created the goo. As Shaw in chrome sleep, David learned and knew that the engineers have no compassion, they create and destroy as they like, thinking they are gods. Knowing this and engineer will sure butchered her when arrived, David unleash Black Death?

@MrHReviews

7 жыл бұрын

potentially!

@simakautas

3 жыл бұрын

Probably :D

I felt that David was always more motivated by endless curiosity, that he's not restrained by morals or ethics to discover new things. David doesn't seem like the type to be moved on impulse by emotion, but rather instead curiosity. I think he killed the engineers as both a favor to Shaw as well as his own curiosity to see or make his own creation, just like the engineers who so fascinated him.

@richardcollard4449

Жыл бұрын

I love this supposition, that was my thought as well. Idle hands and that, plus he was alone for so long that he may have seen it as a challenge to push the boundaries of discovery through his own (perceived) innocent curiosity.

I think he did it to protect her, she has shown him another side to humanity and thusly allows him to dislike himself a little...he was taking no pleasure in the act he almost seems disturbed.

Great observations in a concise video, Mr. H. Congrats on getting invited to the Alien premiere.

You probably have one of the most compelling theories to date on YT... the filmakers are really generating buzz for this sequel, which will probably make me go watch this flick on the day it's released. ;)

We will never learn the Engineer's ways in this movie. That would give away too much. The ways will be revealed in Alien: Awakening.

@shademar3

7 жыл бұрын

Eric Honolulu wait there will be more aliens movies? another reason why i need to stay alive!

@ericichinose1210

7 жыл бұрын

yes there will be more. the next one will be called Alien: Awakening or something like that. Ridley Scott confirmed. i think he even wants to continue an Alien movie every 2 years.

@ArtofLunatik

7 жыл бұрын

damn I just realized why it might be called alien awakening.. maybe it is true that shaw will be asleep through this whole movie, and the next movie she awakens, hence the title.

@ericichinose1210

7 жыл бұрын

Maybe.

@cappygolucky

7 жыл бұрын

I hope Alien awakening is totally about the engineers - that would be epic. The only book on earth that talks about ETis are the Hindu texts

I believe David destroyed this civilization while Shaw was still asleep, she possibly awoke as David was dropping the goo bombs on these people, she runs to the captains chair and attempts to leave, her and David fight and she ends up crashing the ship, she is wounded badly and dying, David then tries to save her but realizes its too late and figures that the only way to keep her alive is by using the black goo on her, perhaps he uses a modified version of it on her. She possibly becomes the protomorph quen that lays the eggs. In Prometheus Shaw said she couldn't bare children yet gave birth to that giant face hugger that created the deacon Alien. I am 80% certain she does turn into some kind of monster in the film though.

@tovsteh

7 жыл бұрын

I wish I hadn't read that.

@Redrung

7 жыл бұрын

CrookedSideShow that explain why to ship crash in the forest.

@BEASTLOSMUSIC

7 жыл бұрын

+Martin Blom Yep, I truly believe Shaw crashes it somehow, it wouldn't make any sense for David to crash the ship himself, possibly killing himself and never experimenting with the Black goo. Aside from that, I also believe that Walter kills David in this film. After Weyland died, David became free, Walter is solely programmed to help his crew. He will help them even if it meant killing David.

@abeedhal6519

7 жыл бұрын

no that would be just stupid

@Folker46590

7 жыл бұрын

A galaxy spanning civilization would be able to survive the lose of their home world, which looks very underdeveloped for a race as old as the Engineers are supposed to be. I think it looks like the Engineers of this world suffered some sort of social/economic collapse and were working their way back, look at the crudeness of their clothes and they don't look like the Engineers from Prometheus.

i LOATHE HAVING TO RESORT TO INFINiTE vids in aid of understanding a film,but yours is thoughtful and well narrated. thanks! SUBSCRIBED!

Great video m8. Looking forward to seeing it

Maybe David, seeing himself as a superior being (or God) decided to create his own species. Through releasing the black goo on the race below he is now the creator of new life. The definition of a god. So perhaps he was apathetic about the species below, and his expression was the weighty expression of becoming a god.

@shaunmarrinan

7 жыл бұрын

Great point, patricide is a huge theme, maybe he is prepared for that outcome? It could challenge our traditional view of an all powerful and infinite god. Maybe a god is merely a creator of life and nothing more.

@shaunmarrinan

7 жыл бұрын

We will soon find out, and I can't wait!

@shaunmarrinan

7 жыл бұрын

SPOILER AHEAD: Just saw the movie, I wasn't far off with my original comment XD

@BioClone

7 жыл бұрын

David just made what he learned... The problem is that everything that he learned was mostly by Weyland... Weyland "killed" his gods by becoming a god, creating something similar to himself and then feel free to belittle it to prove to its creator that he does not need them at all. David did just the same, Only that he also kills the creator of its creator, becoming even greater to the eyes of... ?¿?¿universe?

@Duffpunk

7 жыл бұрын

That's my opinion too. Don't forget the musical background of this scene. Wagner - Entry of the Gods in Valhalla. Davids favorite musical. Fits perfect for this scene.

Another great video, enjoy the premiere! You totally deserve it for getting people hooked on this movie :)

Class as always Mr H, thanks.

@MrHReviews

7 жыл бұрын

+Life's a card game you're very welcome

A better question is "HOW did David kill the Engineers?" This ship David is on is 2000 years out of date. This would be like a Roman centurion using a chariot and a gladius to wipe out 21st century Earth. And there's no way the Engineers would allow a biological-warfare ship to approach their planet, let alone land, especially one that isn't responding to their hails. Also, the only way David could exterminate their entire race is if ALL the Engineers just happened to be at home at the same time. That is literally impossible with a space-faring race that is constantly exploring the galaxy and seeding planets.

@cameronmilne3590

2 жыл бұрын

In the same way a crocodile reaches evolution perfection, and hasn't changed in 1000s of years. The same could apply here, a technological brick wall

I think David did it because perhaps whilst "learning of Their ways", he discovered they were no better than us, or maybe worse. And from learning of this he made the decision that they didn't deserve to exist.

@gabrielpadilla7839

2 жыл бұрын

Flawed meat; all of it in the universe probably is meat

@davidlime5891

Жыл бұрын

It goes even deeper. The whole series are symbolic and distortedly reflect the B i b le. David - Lucifer - is creating his own serpent race, later morphing into locusts from the pit. His army. Rev 9%11. Engineers - Elohym, Genesis 1, serpent humanity. Not the same as Genesis 2 were Christ Himself creates Adam and Eve. See Strongs Concordance, precise ling.translation. See also Jon%athan Kl%eck You Are E%xiles. The truth about this world is terrifying.

Being here from the start of the channel! I am very glad your channel is a success! Great content from the beginning! Great work!

@MrHReviews

7 жыл бұрын

+Milos Petrovic Milos! Haven't seen you comment for ages dude! Been a while man, hope you're still enjoying the content :) its been a crazy response and one I was not expecting at all

@milospetrovic2131

7 жыл бұрын

I was all the time here! :) I am really glad you have been to the world premiere! I just watched live stream yesterday and I really cant wait to see the movie here in Serbia... Two weeks more :) Also I cant wait you analyse Covenant... It will be great for sure! Great times for big fans of Prometheus and Covenant are still to come :)

Mr H, your videos are the best. I work long hours from home and your videos keep me thinking about the alien universe! Congratulations on being invited to the premiere well deserved!! Look forward to your thoughts and your podcast with hybrid network! I have my questions at the ready as always! Take it easy man! :)

@MrHReviews

7 жыл бұрын

+Alex Pritchard thank you for the kind words Alex! Glad you enjoy the channel, podcast should be an interesting one!

So far my thoughts are that David, after learning all he could about the Engineers, comes to the realization that they are not superior and neither are their creations. It is likely the humanoids he bombs are creations of the Engineers who did not reject their creators like humanity did. David, seeing an opportunity to test the black goo, took it upon himself to wipe this planet clean and start a new. My theory is after this he goes ape shit and sees no organic life as god-like in nature and attempts to find a way to replicate killing machines (xenomorphs) that were likely used in the civil war between the Engineer factions. There is likely some form of documentation that exists in the Engineer knowledge about xenomorph type creatures and how to make a bio-mechanical killing machine. He may send the whereabouts of that planet back to earth to "invite" a group of humans to this planet so he can fully test and perfect his creation. It's likely David did not actually create the xenomorph or come up with the idea but instead is attempting to replicate the steps of creating such an organism from the Engineer knowledge he gained.

@davidlime5891

Жыл бұрын

David - Lucifer is creating his own locust from the pit race - xenomorphs - Rev 9%11. His army. For that he needs our soul power. See Jona% than Kle% ck You Are Ex%iles. The real B i b l e precisely linguist translated Strongs Concordance will make your hair stand up.

He was pissed at how they ruined the Space Jockey design from Alien so killed them all.

1:20-Excellent observation .! And I thought that I was being attentive to what was happening.

Mr.H your theories are the best !!

How strange is it that Alien vs Predator parallel to Prometheus... from a sickly Weyland to a chestbuster at the end of both movies.

I think that David was putting Shaws safety first since he did mention that Shaw was the only one that shows that compassion and with what he learn from the ship leaves him no choice but to eliminate all the engineers. I also think that he did not wake up Shaw even after he eliminated the engineers. Then when the covenant crew arrive that is when they will discover Shaw on cryo sleep and wake her up.

Dude, H, I love your theories man they really make me think!

Beautiful narrative of your old videos

I agree with many of your points. I believe that these engineers were war like and xenophobic and were bent on destroying "imperfect" versions of themselves created by their ancestors. I think David learned that during his time alone, and decided to destroy them in order to protect Shaw because he developed feelings for her.

I think that David read what the Destroyer faction of the Engineers did (destroy entire planets?). He decided to attack the Engineer homeworld although it seems that the victims were actually part of the Creators faction of the Engineers. The Destroyers planned to destroy humanity and possibly have destroyed worlds with their black goo. David found out that the Engineers are worse than humans.

@kylekissack4633

7 жыл бұрын

Lonely Noodle if you can why not human scientist do it daily.. I know it seems cold but when your up on the god pedestal you might think who is to judge me.. and morals and ethics could be a human thing they might not even have or be able to understand the concept of morality or right wrong the way we see it..to them it's just something they do..

@kylekissack4633

7 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Alexander and there could be separate factions.. one created us and one wants to destroy ..not for anything we did but what there brothers did in creating us maybe they were all against it except a select few members of their race. and they were headed to correct that mishap ..because we weren't supposed to be created at all ..maybe they were trying to make something different and made us on accident now wipe the slate clean try again?

@themissingpeace7956

7 жыл бұрын

Tallen Westfall It's just my theory lol not cannon at all until Alien Covenant comes out or we get more info.

@themissingpeace7956

7 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Alexander They saw humanity as a flawed creation, cruel and full of greed. They saw humans kill each other for millenias and decided to wipe humanity out to "start over".

@toro64xxx

7 жыл бұрын

they have observe earth carefully and concluded one day humanity will travel far into space and they will bring their chaotic and violent ways. Earth is a threat so they decided to destroy earth after all and use it for weapons development earth had its chance and they blew it by killing engineer Jesus Ridley Scott said it so it is like that.

Oh my gosh. I'm so glad I subscribed to you. And to think I discovered one of your videos by accident.

@MrHReviews

7 жыл бұрын

+Torso lol I'm glad you did too!

Dude that was some good speculation!, that was a good video

The engineers killed shaw while they where docked with the mothership. He kills them out of revenge and the realisation they are worse than humanity

@oinkleberry

7 жыл бұрын

That would be fucking traumatizing. I love it.

@grumpygregory3095

7 жыл бұрын

Jon Harper I read your post after I posted my comments. Great minds think alike.

@jonharper8963

7 жыл бұрын

Karl Eaton, so true :p I've been thinking this for a while. I'd be sad to see shaw go as I'd love to see her and David in a film themselves but I think it's the logical thing to happen to explain the events of covenant. I'm sure I also read that Naomi rapace didn't want to do anymore alien films and was persuaded to appear in covenant by Scott, could be writing out her character and replacing her

@edwardbevins9119

7 жыл бұрын

wrong

@FyouThatsMyName

6 жыл бұрын

Cool theory

A silly answer would be "They ripped off my head so I'll get them back for that one".

There is such a rich vein for any future follow up to explore with any hopeful future film - I really hope Ridley does more as it would be criminal to leave the audience (who has enjoyed the whole series) this way 🖖🏻

BRAVO! BRAVO! Mr. H is a legend!!!! His dark space soundtrack NEVER fails to disappoint!

I'm going to guess the line "to create you must destroy" has more to do with davids actions than we could know now. I believe he learned what the engineers were like, and read about the black goo. it's possible that he decided that he didn't care for them, and that he could replace them with new life, so that when Shaw awoke from her stasis (david would still be around too) new life would exist and as such, everything would be ok. this however leaves us with a problem. if Shaw were to be left in stasis, what made david pull her out of said stasis, and where is she now?

@simakautas

3 жыл бұрын

First of all - in "Prometheus", why David thought that putting an unknown material - black goo to in a human body will cause something to evolve?? How he knew this?? What did he know about black goo at all?

I think David is trying to give Shaw an eternal life and also protecting her from the engineers.

as always. i agree with you. great video.

great content as always H!

I believe Shaw is being saved to be the host body for the new queen/species

Having Shaw be the first living being, to ever show David compassion, or empathy, I think this would have a staggering effect upon David, one which he would hold onto until his dying breath, if he was capable of it. Imagine that he has been ignored and demeaned all his life, and made to feel like a lower class of being, then one day he falls over. Along comes a beautiful person who helps him to his feet;cleans his wounds, and takes care of him. (This sounds like Jesus and Mary Magdalene lol.) My point is, whatever is to happen in Covenant, David's number one priority, I believe, would be to protect Shaw at all costs. I do wonder if his growing adoration of Shaw, is a Maternal kind of love, or a real, deep profound love? Is he even capable of such a thing? I'm so happy after seeing this prologue, I really didn't want David to turn into some psychotic Dr Frankenstein. I can deal with him destroying every engineer in sight if it stems from some kind of pain deep within him, and nothing is as painful as a broken heart, which is shattering to us all, so for an artificial being to experience such profound emotions is much more likely to explain his actions, rather than from a cold intent to commit genocide.

Excellent content 🤘🏻

Great content!

Yeah I think you're on the right track. He must learn something horrible about them. That look on his face and the line he says pretty much shows how his wonder has turned to disgust. Giving them a taste of their own medicine.

What if David could not stop the ship to do that by itself? Maybe it was already programmed to bomb that platet and he had not controll over it?

@alexgnial1

7 жыл бұрын

Then his line right before the dropping would make no sense.

@indigophanta8288

6 жыл бұрын

It was a line from the famous poem called "Ozymandias".

that was exelent vid. you sir have new subscriber!

Hey nice video dude! 👍🏻 Loved you narration.

@MrHReviews

7 жыл бұрын

+BULLetFlav0r 22 thanks man

David has met his creators, Shaw seeks to meet her creators, it was Shaw's mission to travel here. It was her dream to meet them. David feels gratitude for Shaw. And when Shaw meets them, they do something to her. To show his affection-gratitude for Shaw it seems unlikely that he would destroy them before Shaw made contact, or mutate her into something completely different to the person she was that rebuilt him. He is attached to her now that she rebuilt him, seems strange that he would destroy-mutate that thing which he loves, admittedly he already impregnated her with the goo but he was ambivalent to then, he was attached to Weyland then but now he feels for Shaw. They arrive, Shaw's dream is to meet them and she does and she is not well received. David lashes out in revenge and carpet bombs them rather any calculated experiment. It is the only realistic possible motivation he has to do such a thing. Unless of course he learnt something of them while she was asleep but that would still be a betrayal of Shaw's life mission. David loves Shaw and Shaw only dreamed of meeting them. You wouldn't destroy the dream of the person you loved, and you wouldn't turn the person you loved into an unfeeling monster.The same reason David didn't use the goo on Welyand but he did use it others. Shaw has taken the place of Weyland in David's heart. They hurt Shaw and David responds the way you would when someone hurts the one you love. You drop a overkill buttload of death of them. If it was just an experiment you wouldn't unload with everything you have and David pretty much empties the bomb bay on them. Total overkillnow that he is alone. It's retaliation for what happens to Shaw after she meets the reason for her lifes work.

@user-hy7bj5rd9d

7 жыл бұрын

interesting theory

@HalJalikakik

7 жыл бұрын

David can love?

@SacredGeometryDecoded

7 жыл бұрын

Hal Jalikakik he and weyland had a father -son thing happening. David was special. In trailer Walter's are the mass production service types. But David was special. In the trailer he speaks about Shaw's compassion. Plus he is creative and can lie. The way he infected Shaw in prometheus was more than following programmed orders. And with weyland gone the companionship-attachment he had for his father-creator is transferred to shaw. He might even love her more than his father because its more a relationship of equals. Winona ryder character in ressureaction had faith (bible). And weyland made David special.a son who loved his father. Loneliness would be terrible for him and one of them had already killed his father. If they kill-hurt Shaw in the same way he would have good reason for genocide

@interests1094

7 жыл бұрын

Have you seen the movie? An android cannot love.

@interests1094

7 жыл бұрын

It's silly to think an android can love. He was programmed by Weyland to do whatever to find answers. Some people believe David can love, but having watched the movie. He cannot. And if people believe he can, it's just his trickery in making people believe he is close or to have human characteristics. Maybe, but even if he does...he cannot love. If he can. He isn't an android.

every time I have a notification that you uploaded a new video It makes my day! thank you! :D

@MrHReviews

7 жыл бұрын

+Alex Torres five times a week ;) Monday through Friday buddy lol

@drfeelgood5870

4 жыл бұрын

Ok Mr H . One question. At the end of alien resurrection , what the hell happened to earth . Looks like the aftermath of a nuclear war . Can you or anyone one else answer that?. Cheers.

I think you are spot on!

Could it be possible that he became so attached to her that he decided to kill them off to then make Shaw to keep searching to the point that David could have her around with him (and since he'll outlive her it might be a reason to having her in hypersleep dreaming of finding them as an eternal search one that he and her can keep going, afterall saying goodbye to the only one that has given you kindness is a hard thing to go through.).

@SenemmTSR

7 жыл бұрын

I like this one :)

@andyz3925

7 жыл бұрын

IronClaw3000 hmm.. I kinda like this one too. Maybe David's feelings have grown so much for Dr. Shaw that he figured he'd keep her in Hypersleep long enough till he figures out on his own (thru Engineers technology) how to give her what Wayland wanted for himself... eternal life.

@reginaldeberhart8521

7 жыл бұрын

IronClaw3000 I could live with that theory

@interests1094

7 жыл бұрын

Ironclaw3000. hmmm ?????

@ironclaw3000user

7 жыл бұрын

Yes?

Heavy spoilers here. I think something to keep in mind is that David, and androids in general in the Alien universe, are a complete anomaly. In a mythology that's about organic life engineering organic life, a deconstruction of creationist myths, and ultimately creatures that are bred to be the perfect self sustaining organisms; androids don't fit in. They're replicated puppets, that may on some level be able to achieve sentience...but they'll never fit into the the universe's overall scheme of organic life. They're imitated life. Why he does any of the things in the movie is worthy of debate, but I think a lot about David's contradictory nature can be looked at from the Xenomorphs themselves. They're perfect, efficient, self sustaining organic life...but taken to a vicious extreme that only the compassion devoid mind of an unstable machine that hardly even understands its own emotions can come up with. Maybe, he wanted to play god like both his creators and his creators creators...but because of his limitations as synthetic life, his interpretation of creating life is horrendously devoid of anything people associate with intelligent life. No civilization, no ambition, no family; all they're good at is living, at the cost of anything else.

great analysis

Love the channel homie

@MrHReviews

7 жыл бұрын

+Dustin Finley thanks man

Because he killed Shaw to experiment on her and become a creator

I guess what David discovers about the Engineers is that in fact they are a race worse than humanity ready to destroy anything they don't like without mercy, and there is no way Shaw could reach an understanding with them and they will kill her on the spot, so he did it in-order to protect her from them knowing he could not persuade her not to make contact with them. Then she awakes and found what he did, so she crashes the ship and either dies in the process or hide herself somewhere OR it could be the Engineers who managed to crash the ship and Shaw dies in the process, but I doubt she died immediately regardless the way the ship crashes because of the take me home message she made that will ultimately become the beacon that will bring the covenant to this planet. It is possible that show mutated due to her original exposure to the goo or later when the planet become polluted by the goo.

Very interesting theorising as ever, love it.

Loved her so much, he turned her into a science experiment.

lol, they dont reveal fucking anything

It wasn’t the engineers though was it? I thought they were another race the engineers had created hence they look like them but are clearly not them.

An interesting follow up video might be "why did David fear loneliness?"

It brings me back to Ash's line from the original film: The Xenomorph's are a "perfect organism", at least in the eyes of some. If this is what the Engineers were aiming for all along then David might be helping speed up evolution or some such.

spoiler david is obsessed to the creation because he is the only android that dosen't have program to prevent him from creating

While the engineers may be viewed as 'gods', if we actually met our 'gods', they'd probably let us down....just like humans let David down, and just like the engineers would let humans down. I mean imagine humans reaction if they went to meet their maker.....and their maker was a farmer in a field wearing poor mans clothes, who had no grand plan, and didn't even care to see you. To understand why David killed the engineers, one must understand who the engineers are, and we're actually told a lot more about the engineers than we realize. It's rather simple; the engineers are an advanced race, where technology is pervasive almost to the point of seeming like magic......chemicals with strange properties, floating ships, all seemingly constructed without any visible industry. But the engineers are long since stagnant. They don't have new ideas, new ways of doing things.....they are locked in their ways soo deeply that they can't see any other way to exist. They are likely what one could consider, a dying race. Both intellectually, and physically, as it doesn't seem like they rely on sexual reproduction, but likely rely on procreating through technology. Not exactly cloning, because it's clear the engineers are master of genetic manipulation, so they recombine DNA to procreate, with people being 'born' on conveyor belts as needed, with rules likely governing when and for what purpose, rather than blindly creating endless numbers as fast as they can. And a lot can stem from these simple concepts about engineers, about a stagnant society.....powerful but set in their ways, nothing would ever change about their society. But seeding other worlds offered a chance for new civilizations to develop new ways and new ideals, and perhaps if engineer society met them one day as their equals, engineer society would be forced to be changed in the face of meeting equals with different ways. The idea of this was an affront to the powers that be in engineer society, so that's why they wanted to wipe out humans. Now to the question as to why David wanted to kill them.....in essence, it was both a mercy killing, and possibly to save humanity. With as stagnant as their society likely was, and realizing they would never change, one could interpret them as husks, walking ghosts, remnants of a long since intellectually dead civilization. And they weren't quite as strong as we give them credit for despite all of their technology and achievement, they couldn't stop David and never saw it coming, killed just as easily as the military invading uncontacted tribes. In essence, engineers had regressed and the only difference between them and the Romans.....was technology that their ancestors invented. If you look at it from a different perspective, in some ways humans had already surpassed the engineers, or at least were better than they are in their current state of being.

@markuglymark

7 жыл бұрын

C North I'm loving where you are going with this, perhaps you should consider script writing?

@andyz3925

7 жыл бұрын

markuglymark my thoughts as well! hmm.. for a while there I was thinking C North could be someone from Scott Free Productions going rogue.

@peoplez129

7 жыл бұрын

Maybe I am >:)

@EerieV23

7 жыл бұрын

You make a good point about being disappointed in one's creator. I think his choice of Shelley's poem speaks more to finding a fallen civilization. He arrives and realizes they have no answers, but actually are looking up at him like he is the God. I can imagine his disappointment in humans and not wanting to see Dr. Shaw hurt in the same way.

@rickiesee8666

7 жыл бұрын

Please carry on with this. The people demand more.

He was the first model designed to create... Not only this... He is actually psychologically profiled to literally be Weyland psychologically. With this in mind. He is Weyland. Therefore everything will continue to be expendable while trying to achieve the goal of understanding and knowing the meaning of everything and to live forever.

i love when walter say to david are not surprise to see me and david says no every good mission needs a synthetic..bigger meaning to that.

because david is skynet!

@billfletcher3966

5 жыл бұрын

Terminator vs Alien confirmed

I feel like I've watch 30% of this movie already with all the trailers... I know I should just stop watching them.

@simakautas

3 жыл бұрын

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

I would love to know more about the upcoming "the predator" movie. Love your channel Mr H, looks like your subs are going up! Great to see. Great to see a channel that is different from others and doesn't fuck around with crap. Keep it up!!

@MrHReviews

7 жыл бұрын

+mick Joseph hey Mick! I'd put more up but sadly, there isn't any! My last video was an update on the delay but I had a reply direct from Shane black explaining why! Lol much to my surprise! Glad you like the channel man, have no intention to stop :)

Just can't wait for the movie now.

we learned in covenant that David didn't care about Shaw AT ALL - In fact, he sacrificed her for his own xenomorph breeding experiments so this vid is out of date now...

David says "I learned of their ways" while he is walking down a dark corridor flanked by sinister engineer space suits. In David's logical android "mind", a desire to kill off mankind simply overrules Shaw's wish to "get answers". David is not pleased to destroy. He is sad - which is only "human". But he has learned: It is destroy or BE DESTROYED!

@CamGold

6 жыл бұрын

thats how i felt when watching

I enjoyed Covenant, and I loved Walter, but there were definitely unanswered questions (that look like may not be answered now), and some of it didn't entirely add up. I agree with all your points here, and I personally like that direction better for David's character.

i agree, i felt sadness in those words

It sounds as though you are humanizing David... suggesting he is capable of affection for Shaw. In thinking about why David takes actions he does I feel it important to think about what motivates David. I felt a couple poignant scenes to try to understand David in Prometheus include his recitation of a line from the movie he watched and, as you rightly point out, his response to Halloway about humanity. David seems more driven by curiosity and discovery than any moral imperative in my estimation. Evidence of that is his preoccupation with watching Shaw's dreams and his eerily mesmerized interest in the movie he "liked". Ultimately the dispassionate poisoning of Halloway leading to the subsequent pregnancy of Shaw was done to see what would happen...not out of spite or malice. Remember what he said about big things having small beginnings? Hardly a personal malevolent statement about a man that definitely insulted David. I felt David matter of factly marveled (briefly) at Shaw's resiliency when she floundered in following the horrific cesarean section she performed on herself... but did not express remorse or even a tacit guilt response. A big moment for me was when he discovered the star map and almost danced within the holographic display as he made the discovery. So did David evolve? Do you think that he somehow began to learn compassion, morality, and other "humanistic" concepts of right and wrong as he and Shaw traversed the distance to the engineer home world? If not the default to his curiosity and discovery character traits implies he simply released the canisters to see what would happen. That seems unlikely so my question remains. What happened between David & Shaw on their journey? Was he capable of learning gratitude? affection? empathy? If so perhaps he absorbed information archived on the ship about the engineer race and the potential factions within it. But more importantly I believe his actions must indicate a deep and meaningful interaction with Shaw. I can't wait to see it & find out.

@augurcybernaut4785

7 жыл бұрын

Hal Jalikakik David and Walter are Blade Runner Replicants.... David kisses Walter like Roy did Terrell and David tells the Captain "that's the spirit" just like Roy does to Deker when they fight at the end of the Blade Runner

@augurcybernaut4785

7 жыл бұрын

Hal Jalikakik only thing is that David doesn't know that he has a limited life span, like all Replicants should, but he does know of the creative limit they put in Walter.

@HalJalikakik

7 жыл бұрын

While one cannot avoid the dialogue homage to Blade Runner I'm not certain you can say David = replicant. I am limiting my comments to the context provided in the story given. Should I expand the context to include, AI, Westworld, I Robot, 2001 Space Odyssey and the slew of movies that ever explored android / robot / AI? In exploring the question offered as to "why David killed the Engineers?" one needs to address motive. That begs some basic questions in which Mr. H. explored and, in my opinion, ascribed human emotion to explain David's actions. I am not opposed to a well thought out defense of that position as it's an interesting discussion. I simply pointed out some of his other actions that seem to suggest a curious nature embedded in a being that appears to act with a lack of morality. That does not mean I think he is acting in an evil way...he merely acts without regard to factoring in a moral position. Your comments don't seem to offer any response to the original question.

@augurcybernaut4785

7 жыл бұрын

Hal Jalikakik My breadcrumb was for the same reason Roy kills Terrell? David is holding two things in tension Longevity vs Creativity. Something like that.

*smokes deeply from a bong.* Because everybody kills, baby. It's cool though, 'cause killin' is like a part of nature & junk. I mean you commit murder every time you swat a fly or run over a frog or throw an albino to a pit of pine martens. *stares into bong.* Shit, this is some strong stuff.

@Capodecamper

7 жыл бұрын

Alex Lemonds hahahaha perfect lol

@acardenasjr1340

7 жыл бұрын

Alex Lemonds yessir

excellent

Imagine you're a filmaker, tasked with conveying important points, in just a couple of minutes. You have to focus on the bare minimum necessaties that expand the primary plot. The focuses of the prologue were heavily on David's newfound attachment to Shaw and the "learning of their ways", coupled with the ominous visual tone of the latter. David's eradication of the beings on the planet is 100% tied to his relationship with Shaw. He must also be aware that doing so renders the planet inhospitable to her, so he clearly planned on keeping her in hypersleep, or finding a way for her to survive. His tests post-crash seen in Covenant are a result of this relationship, for good or ill, and he will be the creator of Xenomorph. Ultimately our quest for technology kills us.

i've seen the special Alien Covenant scene at Napoli Comicon, the birth of the baby neomorph was extremely graphic but it was amazing!

I think the key to David's motivation is Shaw's question "What if they are no better than us?" And David's response "So long as they are no worse" I think he found something that convinced him that they were worse and " not worthy" of Shaw's hopes. So he destroyed them. Them he either terraformed the planet into paradise or left it to naturally turn it into paradise as a gift to Shaw, like an obsessed stalker panting pictures of things the person he is obsessed with " would like". As for Shaw's happiness, David is a machine so he doesn't entirely understand human happiness. I'm guessing that he believes that so long as Shaw remains forever asleep, with the hope of awakening at a "happy ending" at the end of the journey then she is happy and safe. My guess is that he still has Shaw in stasis like a mosquito in amber

He finally gained conscience, and learned their ways, heince one was destroy to create.

Based on the interaction between David and the surviving engineer in Prometheus up to the said time in the prologue he may as you said learned some unsavory info on the Engineers and their plans to outright cull off humanity in a manner that was below he lofty beliefs concerning them added to Shaw's personal wellbeing hence the action taken.

Nice proposition. Love to see shaw back in the sequel and see the real story behind David's AI intention

think you nailed it.

An insight into David's mindset is the scene in Prometheus where he recounts T.E.Lawrence's 'the trick is William Potter not minding that it hurts'.This is a skit on antiquities Mucius Scaevola burning his right hand without registering pain as an 'act of divine perjury to overcome an existential threat to the gods or the world'.

The point Mr. Potter is not minding that it hurts.

David is enjoying himself and will do as he pleases because he knows he is supreme and now unfettered.

The prologue was a tiny slice of epic and was very rewarding. One thing I would say is that I hope they add an extended prologue to the movie before later revealing David's true motive. I just think the David/Shaw relationship is very interesting. Good video as usual Mr H

good video!!!

I don't know Mr H but i canny wait ... keep the anticipation builders coming as the release date approaches ...Swedish Cheeses, I've not been this excited about a movie in a long time

@MrHReviews

7 жыл бұрын

+Ronan Kearney lol plenty more to come buddy!

Maybe we should get a small intimate movie with just Shaw and David on their way to planet 4. It should make an interesting movie which could give some closure for the Shaw character

I can't believe you came so close to what is actually suggested in the film. Bravo.

@MrHReviews

7 жыл бұрын

+Fuujinryu kind of, I think I was definitely off the mark somewhat though!

David: "Sometimes to create, one must first destroy."

"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"

Look at the change in lighting when David says "And then I was alone again". I believe he just left the cryochamber room after finding out that Shaw died. When he says "our arrival" I think he is talking not about him and Shaw, but instead about him and his weapons. When he is about to drop the death bombs you can see tears in his eyes, something huge happened. I can't wait to find out what.

good ideas :)

'Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair' is a quote from Ozymandius

@MrHReviews

7 жыл бұрын

+OBeardyOne I know

@OBeardyOne

7 жыл бұрын

The poem has an undertone that those that rule assume to be all powerful, but that they are deluded. I can't wait to see the new film, and really enjoyed your thoughts! Thanks

I think you are spot on about David finding out what the Engineers' intentions were causing him to take action.

Bro that is a very interesting idea! I hope they go with that...it fit together like that, you need to work with Ridley lol