ALIEN 5 - The Timeline, Plot and NEW INFO on Neill Blomkamp's ALIENS Sequel Film

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What was the plot of the cancelled Neill Blomkamp ALIENS sequel? I discuss the timeline of the confusing and contradictory events leading up to the demise of ALIEN 5. Along with this, I share exclusive new details of the story and plot of the cancelled Alien 5 movie that I have learned over the years.
Was having Ripley, Hicks, and Newt back going to be worth it? Maybe not as much as we'd hoped. Did Ridley Scott or 20th Century FOX end the project? Was Alien 5 going to be good, or bad? Watch to learn the mysteries of Neill Blomkamp's doomed project.
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  • @_GeneralMechanics_
    @_GeneralMechanics_3 ай бұрын

    Despite his vision of Halo never happening, I want to imagine Blomkamp would have gotten Sigourney to play Dr. Halsey.

  • @chrishateley5582

    @chrishateley5582

    2 ай бұрын

    Now that would be great casting.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    That would have been some good casting for sure.

  • @andrewcardenas1314
    @andrewcardenas13147 күн бұрын

    Blomkamp’s “script” was rumored to be just a 10 page treatment with a shit ton of impressive concept art. Fox told him maybe while Scott was finishing covenant. After covenant bombed, the project was scrapped completely like you mentioned.

  • @kellysmith1144
    @kellysmith11443 ай бұрын

    It's so disheartening to hear people say Alien is Ridleys own creation. It's simply not. He directed it, sure, after being brought in very late, but the idea was not his, the script wasn't his.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    But if it weren't for him, and him going through the Necronomicon by Tiger after it was handed to him, we likely wouldn't have the look of the iconic xenomorph and much more. Ridley might not be wholly responsible for the entirety of ALIEN, but he is responsible for the look, feel, tone and vibe the movie delivered. It's understandable how people see it as his.

  • @monacaravetta

    @monacaravetta

    Ай бұрын

    @@MikesMonsters he fortunately trusted the opinion of Dan O'Bannon who brought the Necromicon to him and showed him Necronom. Dan O'Bannon was the heart of ALIEN.

  • @micahrutland9021

    @micahrutland9021

    14 күн бұрын

    I can see both sides of this argument.

  • @monacaravetta

    @monacaravetta

    13 күн бұрын

    @@MikesMonsters Dan O'Bannon introduced the Necromicon to Scott after meeting Giger while working on pre-production of the unmade Jodorovsky's Dune. It was his baby. But again, it was the perfect blend of all the right people and ingredients. I now believe A L I E N belongs to us all.

  • @danielwoods3563
    @danielwoods35633 ай бұрын

    People complain about Prometheus and Covenant demystifying the xenomorph and space jockey, but having the derelict being made out of human DNA? I don’t think anything could destroy the mystery more than that. What an awful idea. For me, the Engineer storyline brought even more mystery. In a genre bloated with different imaginings of alien species, the Engineers still stand out as one of the more unique and fascinating. And even with the introduction of the Engineers, Prometheus still made it clear the Xenomorph predated David and maybe the Engineers themselves.

  • @Jerry98x

    @Jerry98x

    3 ай бұрын

    Also, if we really want to speak the truth, Aliens did more damage to the xenomorph than the prequels. But people won't aver admit that

  • @Jerry98x

    @Jerry98x

    3 ай бұрын

    @satanistclub they aren't by any means, but okay. I'll tell you more: they're the best movies in the franchise after Alien and Aliens. At a great distance from Alien³ and then Resurrection.

  • @naleparyan

    @naleparyan

    3 ай бұрын

    I'm w/ya... that was the biggest surprise in this video... and NOT in a good way.

  • @TheTrveMothlord

    @TheTrveMothlord

    3 ай бұрын

    ​​@@Jerry98x YES! nostgia is totally blinding about Aliens. Great movie but turning the aliens into just bugs? Boring af and super demystifying. And its the reason Xenomorphs later on go turned into basically just raptors in Resurrection and the AVP films. Still cool on its own (space marines vs bugs) but Alien had the creature especially with deleted scenes acting so much more bizarre plus the cocooning being even more disturbing.

  • @TheTrveMothlord

    @TheTrveMothlord

    3 ай бұрын

    You're spot on with implication and theory that the Xenomorphs predate the engineers. Personally there's some much freedom and creativity with the engineers in the universe. Who knew if the engineers tampered with the xenomorphs and corrupted them? Was there ever a pure Xenomorph since the ones we know grow from hosts? Is the Deacon related to the idea of an ancient xenomorph? Plus all the potential of the black goo that could give us some insane Dead Space level horror? I think the biggest issue is the engineers dont look like what people wanted. But personally, the engineers to me may just be another rung in the hierachy and potentially be similar to the androids humans made. Beings created to be perfect and tend to things while the creators get to sit back and be otherwise occupied with even more wild things.

  • @richardmaloneriki1811
    @richardmaloneriki18113 ай бұрын

    I'd love if they attempted a graphic novel like Vincent Ward's abandoned Alien 3 pitch (which as far as I'm aware, never got finished)

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    I completely agree!

  • @portalscifi
    @portalscifi3 ай бұрын

    Wow, never seen such a complete documentary about this theme. Such a pain we never got Blomkamp´s vision of Aliens. Great video!

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    3 ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you so much for watching! It certainly would have been something if we got that film!

  • @BlueMarsalis

    @BlueMarsalis

    3 ай бұрын

    A pain? We dodged a hurricane made entirely of bullets.

  • @jasonleveck8546

    @jasonleveck8546

    3 ай бұрын

    Major missed opportunity to have righted this franchise. Ridley Scott needs to be shown the door in regards to Aliens.

  • @jasonleveck8546

    @jasonleveck8546

    3 ай бұрын

    @@BlueMarsalis right and you got a storm of dog shit called "Covenant", which is a completely useless and forced entry into the Alien universe. Scott through a fit and felt jealous of his talent and so cried until the studio bent the knee and already having had lots of money invested in his bull shit Prometheus entries.

  • @BlueMarsalis

    @BlueMarsalis

    3 ай бұрын

    Alien Covenant's far better than even the best version of this idea, Ridley Scott's a better filmmaker. And the studio either had the option of going with the Director of Alien, Blade Runner, Gladiator, Black Hawk Down, Kingdom of Heaven, and at the time The Martian adaptation. Or... Chappie? You have to be insane to pick Neill Blomkamp or blinded by justifiable ire towards Prometheus. Likely the studio just picked the better director, and the better idea, being that anything surpasses Ripley in a biomechanical mech suit and Aliens having their own technology made from human beings.

  • @spiralspree
    @spiralspreeАй бұрын

    Regardless of what people want, I crave this visual style and twisted weirdness. It's like fresh air, and opens up possibilities for some heavy plot. I don't want to watch a copy paste alien movie. I don't even want spaceship crews. This research facility and experiments topic gives me the shivers it's so good. Knowing all this, what we missed with this film, just makes me super sad 😞. They could at least make a video game from it.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    Ай бұрын

    Hopefully we can get a comic or some type of adaptation to see what was in store for us all.

  • @dodosinplight
    @dodosinplight8 күн бұрын

    Would be nice to have an Alien movie where Sigourney, Michael, Lance, and maybe a new actress playing Newt reunite. The actors are getting older and it seems as though Disney is trying to get new actors in with the upcoming Fede Alvarez version but I hope they bring in the Neil Blomkamp version we all wanted a decade ago

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    8 күн бұрын

    At this point, all the actors are a little too old for this kind of thing. Especially Lance.

  • @Dirty_Nero_Main
    @Dirty_Nero_Main3 ай бұрын

    The DNA ship lost me. Kinda glad we didn't go there. Don't get me wrong, the biomech concept was much more alluring. Perhaps the pathogen's creators sought to fuse an empire of alien species with their technology, seeding the universe with life not unlike the Engineers and humans as well as cleansing world's with the Xenomorphic progeny of the pathogen when weaponised. An originator that had long since died, leaving only the living machines of their final attempt to forestall their own extinction. Perhaps the Xenomorph simply happens because a careless creator underestimated the virility of the Deacon's Blood.

  • @TheTrveMothlord

    @TheTrveMothlord

    3 ай бұрын

    Yep, I am of a very similar mind. The engineers in my mind are the gardeners of eden left to continue their work after god has gone MIA or is busy elsewhere. The xenomorphs being a parasitic species beg the question, is there a pure xenomorph that came before a host species ever changed them? Is the deacon an ancient predecessor or something "close" to what a pure xenomorph is? I certainly like to think that the pathogen came about by trying to replicate something inside the deacon/xenomorphs and it went kind of wrong becoming more of a weapon.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah, that bit of information made me flip my whole opinion on the project. It sounded like an absolute mess.

  • @buddybarlow9604
    @buddybarlow96043 ай бұрын

    I wonder why we haven't seen anything on Noah Hawleys Alien series on FX yet...aren't they shooting in thailand? No leaks?

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    There was some concept art leaks from AvPGalaxy over the last few years, but that production has been on lockdown otherwise. They likely don't want it to confuse or interfere with Romulus. But once that's out, it'll be just the right time to start marketing for the series.

  • 3 ай бұрын

    I was already turned off at the sight of Ripley in the Kenner A.T.A.X. armor… but the idea that the aliens are capable of making spacecrafts is too far. That’s far more stupid than anything Ridley did in his prequels. In hindsight, I’m amused by all of the fans saying the prequels ruined the franchise while claiming this film would have saved it.

  • @jasonleveck8546

    @jasonleveck8546

    3 ай бұрын

    Have no idea what you're referencing? The prequels are dog shit, don't kid yourself, you're certainly not kidding anybody else.

  • @earthcitizen3939

    @earthcitizen3939

    3 ай бұрын

    I'm not a fan of the prequels, but this seems terrible

  • @Right_Said_Brett

    @Right_Said_Brett

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jasonleveck8546 The OP never said that the prequels were good movies. They simply said that Blomkamp's movie sounded even worse, which it did.

  • @jasonleveck8546

    @jasonleveck8546

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Right_Said_Brett many, myself included do not think the movie sounded worse, in fact it sounded pretty bad ass and quite likely would've set the franchise to right. I'll go with the credibility of Weaver and Cameron over simple fan boys.

  • @Right_Said_Brett

    @Right_Said_Brett

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jasonleveck8546 Yet more insults, in place of actual rebuttals to the arguments which I've made. It doesn't matter whether you liked the sound of Blomkamp's Alien movie. It's completely irrelevant. You said that Alien 3 killed the franchise. I pointed out why that was not the case. Stay to the topic at hand, you petulant child.

  • @calebmar12
    @calebmar123 ай бұрын

    Loved the video! Feels good finally knowing some details to go with the art. I can get behind some of the ideas (Alien martial being used to convert humans into stuff) but not so much others (the aliens being the ones to do it). With the info here, I think theres parts of a really cool story about the Bio-Weapons division finally getting an Alien, that drifted away a little to far into some high tier weirdness (Which I can always get behind depending on execution.)

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for watching! I'm glad I was able to share some information too. I find the artwork fascinating, yet happy it never got made into a full motion picture.

  • @Bradwelbornfineart
    @BradwelbornfineartАй бұрын

    Awesome insight and video 💯🫡

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you so much! Glad it was informative for you!!! Thanks for watching!

  • @girafingo9280
    @girafingo92803 ай бұрын

    Great video Mike - another superlative Aliens piece! I liked the concept art of Bloomkamp's alien film and can see a lot of the OATS Studio feel and vibe (which I love). I feel Neil Bloomkamp leans more towards Cameron than Scott with his storytelling style - what I like about this possible version is that it seems to balance fan anticipation with some really daring albeit hard to fathom new ideas (Xenos as pioneering ship builders) Still, the idea of 'Aliens' was also kind of revolutionary compared to the first film - loads of aliens and loads of guns - it could have been a disaster. So part of me thinks a director like Bloomkamp with a great track record in bio-mechanical stories is better equipped than most to make it work.

  • @jasonleveck8546

    @jasonleveck8546

    3 ай бұрын

    It's important for people to realize that much of these concept arts are just that, a concept. Artists fire off all kinds of doodles and ideas while they're developing ideas. Some get expanded while others are at the same time retracted. Plenty of the concepts we've seen would never have made it past the illustrations and this is part/parcel of that process with artists. People just wanna jump to conclusions because so many people invested themselves in the shitty prometheus films and simply can't accept that those films were garbage and not needed in the franchise. Nothing but atheistic wet dreams.

  • @mlonster
    @mlonster3 ай бұрын

    Covenant and Prometheus have grown on you? What? Like an alien spore fungus? :)

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Basically! haha. But I don't love them like I do the original films. I just like some of the things they do in the films, but the overall packages I've got some serious issues with. But with more time with them, I've learned to appreciate some bits and pieces.

  • @adamcammack3534
    @adamcammack35343 ай бұрын

    I find Blomkamps comment about not wanting to play with someone elses property very strange because I remember in 2018/19 it was rumoured he was going to Direct Robocop returns before that project fell apart, He now seems to be kinda in limbo with Demonic and Gran Tursimo like what happened with him?

  • @danielvargas6414

    @danielvargas6414

    3 ай бұрын

    Provably he did something or say something that someone didn't like it or simply because the franchise's right where in another people's hands and they didn't like the idea. Who knows, but one thing is sure, he felt in disgrace, in my opinion, and it's sad.

  • @msscott22

    @msscott22

    2 ай бұрын

    I always thought it was bizarre that Blomkamp was going to ignore Robocop 2 with Robocop Returns.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    He definitely made some contradictory statements during all the interviews.

  • @adamcammack3534

    @adamcammack3534

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MikesMonsters considering he pretty much made a robocop movie with Chappie I dunno what he would of brought to the table with Returns.

  • @jasonleveck8546
    @jasonleveck85463 ай бұрын

    The terrific stories created in the Dark Horse universe is full of gold and diamonds for the mining of various series. I think much of this content would be not only well suited to the cinema but also the episodic format of the various streamers. Unfortunately Disney owns the rights to the franchise and that is not a good thing.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Disney is doing alright, plus, it's still FOX who's running it and nothing has changed there. I can definitely tell you Romulus isn't tame.

  • @jasonleveck8546

    @jasonleveck8546

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MikesMonsters I hope it's good, great in fact. All I know, is that i'd love for the same magic of Aliens once again. Lately, Disney is really fucking the dog and their constant political pontificating is showing to be a real loser in the gross receipts of their movies.

  • @jasonleveck8546

    @jasonleveck8546

    2 ай бұрын

    @MichaelMathes-ec1lj They're creating content to intentionally piss people off. They achieved that and are now being ran out of town on a pole, as it should be. My cousin worked for them and actually has a credit on the second Dr. Strange and 3rd Guardians. She went out into the desert and did the very last scene where they show the "new guardians" at the very end. She said she rode out in a production van and that the Rocket Raccoon was actually animatronic for some of the scene.

  • @arvinjay336

    @arvinjay336

    29 күн бұрын

    @jasonleveck8546 that one DH ALIENS comic that had a... black goo on it released in the 90s I think it was and scott probably "took" some of it and made it Prometheus lol

  • @jasonleveck8546

    @jasonleveck8546

    29 күн бұрын

    @@arvinjay336 Wouldn't be surprised. Lot of those Dark Horse series were big time good works of literary art.

  • @stingray2001
    @stingray20013 ай бұрын

    My understanding of the script, would have leaned more into Newts story and her PTSD dealing with the aliens. Newt would have been the main protagonist, and the story would have explored her struggles with PTSD and her connection to the Xenomorphs. The film would have also introduced a new cast of characters, including a group of space marines and scientists who are investigating the Xenomorph threat. The plot would have likely involved a new alien outbreak, possibly on a different planet or in a different part of the galaxy, and Newt's journey to confront her past and stop the aliens once and for all. The film would have also likely explored themes of trauma, survival, and redemption, and would have featured plenty of action, suspense, and horror elements.

  • @BlueMarsalis

    @BlueMarsalis

    3 ай бұрын

    Actually watch the video, it had none of the above.

  • @stingray2001

    @stingray2001

    3 ай бұрын

    @@BlueMarsalis I did watch the video, that's why I posted this reply.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Quite an interesting speculation, but I can confirm that this wasn't what would have gone down in the film.

  • @frenchcoupon3391
    @frenchcoupon33913 ай бұрын

    Knowing that at the end- the Studio decides- the implication of Weaver killed the movie. I would have loved that concept and a true Aliens sequel. However I would have preferred the initial movie, as originally intended by Blomkamp. Without Ripley/Hicks/Newt. Alien is such a rarity in movies, that any movie (made and done) is a miracle. The downfall of Alien 5 project proves that.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Maybe the movie without Hicks, Newt and Ripley could have been cool. But if it introduced the idea of the of the derelict ship from ALIEN being made out of human DNA by xenomorph saliva... I'm not so sure...

  • @frenchcoupon3391

    @frenchcoupon3391

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MikesMonsters Sure. As much as I love the engineers concept, we didn’t need the Alien’s origins. Nor the Engineers (who were this giger-esque gigantic elephant creatures, molded or part of a chair- genius concept, by the way).

  • @randomflagg7331
    @randomflagg73313 ай бұрын

    The feeling I got of 20th century and pine woods studio's was this strong desire to jettison the James Cameron sequel from the timeline. it goes all the way back to when they were making aliens. there seemed to be a resistance to anything not made by Scott and even though Aliens was this massive hit. it;s like they shrugged at it, and when they had a chance to build upon Aliens what did they do?..... Exactly, they eliminated the connection to the sequel and basically hit reset as if part 2 never happened. and now decades later when the subject gets brought up again what happened? Scott has it burned and buried.

  • @xxthehuskycaboosexx
    @xxthehuskycaboosexx3 ай бұрын

    A ship built by aliens, that has human DNA? No thanks lmao Excited for Romulus!

  • @peterkrochmalni673

    @peterkrochmalni673

    3 ай бұрын

    Well, the human dna thing is not my cup of tea, but I do love the fact that the Xenos are growing their own ship it’s the same idea I have for my stories, though in mine they are using Space Jockey biotech (sorta like seeds that grow a spaceship) appropriated from WaYu who excavated it from a dig site on a colony.

  • @T--kq3pj

    @T--kq3pj

    3 ай бұрын

    yeah, take your new shit to a bucket with 2 old shits - prometheus and covenant

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    I'm excited for everyone else to see Romulus in the near future!

  • @AGUC426
    @AGUC4262 ай бұрын

    Sounds like we may have dodged a bullet. Still want a comic book version otherwise there's too much 'what if' elements

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    I'd be so down for a comic version.

  • @AGUC426

    @AGUC426

    2 ай бұрын

    @MikesMonsters we got it with original screenplay and Alien³ so can't see why not and it'll stop a lot of what if comments

  • @Dude-oh8vq
    @Dude-oh8vq3 ай бұрын

    I'm still sad that Neil didn't get to make his film, however, I do think if it happened, that he would be better suited with someone on set to tell him when certain ideas were bad, and so on. Some of his designs and plot points were a little too rehashy to me, and I also think he could tone down his choppy editing and slow motion, which he tends to overuse from my view.

  • @frankthecat1660

    @frankthecat1660

    3 ай бұрын

    It was an awful fan-fic level idea for a movie, who's only point was to bring back 2 characters that don't matter in the larger scheme of things, just to appease all the crybabies who didn't like the opening of ALIEN³.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    He didn't seem to like when some people in production told him his ideas weren't the best. He seemed really resistant to outside opinions, and even stated he doesn't like being told what to do.

  • @Dude-oh8vq

    @Dude-oh8vq

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MikesMonsters That's too bad. Might be someone who's hard to work with then.

  • @erictuxen
    @erictuxen3 ай бұрын

    Human Juggernaut ship - nope

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Big nope. Big, big nope.

  • @RakaiThwei
    @RakaiThwei3 ай бұрын

    Honestly? Maybe it was a good thing that Blomkamp's movie didn't get made, especially with the new plot point that you just unveiled.

  • @adamcadwell4560

    @adamcadwell4560

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I didn't like that idea either. I get they're smart, but sounds too much.

  • @JooshMe

    @JooshMe

    3 ай бұрын

    Biomechanical doesn’t necessitate intention.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I think we dodged a bullet in the end.

  • @alexhein6386

    @alexhein6386

    Ай бұрын

    It sounds like the concept art before the story was way over the top and all over the place. I’m kinda glad alien 5 was never made.

  • @aejokerDa
    @aejokerDa3 ай бұрын

    Excellent video.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for watching!!!

  • @user-tm7os2qc5j
    @user-tm7os2qc5j3 ай бұрын

    Another such intriguing idea about origin from the Earth... But makes questions -- where is alien ??? and why the ship was so far from the Earth and ruled by not a beast, not a human ???

  • @Guernicaman
    @Guernicaman3 ай бұрын

    Perhaps Blomkamp's "Alien 5" could be turned into a video game instead of a movie. I can see it become a Resident Evil 4-style survival-horror game, perhaps w/co-op. Not sure who has the Alien ip license -- tho I think it's SEGA.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    A video game could indeed be interesting, as long as they don't call it canon like they tried with Colonial Marines!

  • @PrinceTrish
    @PrinceTrish2 ай бұрын

    For all the alien³ hate, i like it as a film; it feels almost like it was written as a theatre production in that it is mostly characters in rooms talking to each other, more like a thriller than action or horror, it containing bare few relevant examples of either. But to that point alien has been a franchise of different genres and styles. Perhaps this wasn't a great idea for a blockbuster franchise but it is in keeping with the tradition of the films to that point. Since the first film was a horror the second couldn't do that because it had already been done so they make action, which of course the third film couldn't follow without retreading all the same tropes so they took it in a different direction again; this film is more of a companion to the series for the lore nerds and fangirls without drastically affecting a wider theme of the inhumanity of humankind. Viewed through the lens of the great evil of the franchise being people, having a film comprised of prisoners set in a doomed dilapidated facility who's only chance of escaping the Star beast is via the company troopers who are literally there to kill everyone except the xenomorph and to have it caps with the death of Ripley totally underlines all of that, although it does make it something of a bummer to watch lol And for everyone sitting on Resurrection, it was made as a completely different format of action movie more like the over the top comic esq s films of the time and also contains a scene between two of the greatest actresses sigourney weaver and Winona Ryder play a clone and a synthetic standing in a chapel debating who isn't human which frankly could be a film all of it s own

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Great points!

  • @Jerry98x
    @Jerry98x3 ай бұрын

    Back then I was interested in this Alien 5 and I used to think that it was a shame it got canceled, mainly because I loved the concept arts. But this whole ship thing with the human DNA is possibly one of the worst ideas I've ever heard of and honestly I'm happy that nothing like this has materialized. Some people hated on the prequels because they wanted Neill Blomkamp's Alien and the whole blah blah blah about Covenant blocking it. Many of them always had the presumption of saying what the Alien franchise should and should not be about, sometimes claiming that the ideas and the concepts of the prequels were bad (LOL). Kinda hilarious after hearing all of this about Alien 5! With that said, I'm excited about Romulus because the atmosphere is closer to that of the first Alien, which is something I absolutely adore. Then I would love to see Covenant's sequel because David's story deserves a more fleshed out conclusion. It won't happen, but I still have some hope.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Glad to have enlightened you! I'd love to see David's story wrapped up as well. I think Romulus will tie up some things for fans once they've all been able too see it.

  • @Trucker-John-B
    @Trucker-John-B3 ай бұрын

    Easiest casting ever. Mary Winstead as Ripley. Done. Anything else?

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    If you only knew how close we got to that...

  • @BlueMarsalis
    @BlueMarsalis3 ай бұрын

    Alien³ once again proves itself to be the best outcome.

  • @0311uli

    @0311uli

    3 ай бұрын

    I agree since this Aliens2 would have just imploded the entire universe. We had enough with the fans forcing Fox and Scott to course correct Prometheus and we got that dumpster fire with Covenant, but this oh no, this would have been far worse. Glad that Alien³ survived and fight for another day.

  • @peterkrochmalni673

    @peterkrochmalni673

    3 ай бұрын

    The death of Hicks and Newt is the best outcome? What is wrong with you?

  • @Right_Said_Brett

    @Right_Said_Brett

    3 ай бұрын

    100% The Assembly Cut is a f-ing masterpiece and I will die on that hill!

  • @0311uli

    @0311uli

    3 ай бұрын

    @@peterkrochmalni673seeing Gibson script and now what Blomkamp wanted to do. Yeah it was the best thing to happen since it’s obvious there’s nothing new to be said with those characters. Instead used them to destroy the extended universe. Yea no.

  • @manfmalachi

    @manfmalachi

    3 ай бұрын

    Alien 3 is amazing. I'm still so glad they made that movie

  • @1mudrec
    @1mudrec3 ай бұрын

    Hi Mike, thanks for the video. The whole problem here is that we already had Prometheus filmed, where there was black slurry. Ridley already had a script for a covenant with David playing another David's pipe. So, the question is, where did human DNA come from, if we now have the slurry from Prometheus and the covenant?) if there was a ready-made model of aliens2, if we have so much concept art, then most likely the film was at the starting point of filming. so, most likely the studio was waiting to see if Elysium would take off, but instead Elysium failed, they began to wait for covenant, otherwise they would invest 150-200 million in another film, which would also not pay off so-so. the covenant failed, district number 9 failed. Well, in principle, it’s obvious that the director was pushed aside, but! if he was pushed back, why are his ideas possibly going to be used in future films?)

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    That's a great question, and a very confusing one for sure. One day we might get all the information after time has passed.

  • @CWRardin
    @CWRardinАй бұрын

    Good grief are we lucky this movie wasn't made! How awful. Having the derelict be made of human DNA and engineered by the Xenomorphs is as dumb as the idea for Ripley 8. Hard to believe that somebody over at Fox actually made a smart decision, however in this case ... well just wow.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    Ай бұрын

    We dodged a bullet!

  • 3 ай бұрын

    Who cares about the timeline, just make good movies or spinoffs that have the dark, gritty and helpless felling that the first two movies have.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    The thing is, the ideas in this one may not have made for a good movie. Even if it were gritty.

  • @dman3316
    @dman33163 ай бұрын

    Reading between the lines, my guess is the title would have been ALIENS II. Eloquently separates it from the Prometheus movies, and tells new and old audiences exactly what it is and where it sits in the series

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    It would have been District 9 meets ALIENS, and not in a good way.

  • @CalebTizon
    @CalebTizonАй бұрын

    So sad that we got neither this "Alien 5" film OR "Alien: Paradise Lost," which sounds like it would have been a far superior film to "Alien: Covenant." It feels like the franchise was so close to going in 2 exciting new directions, only for them to scrap everything and release a very generic studio Xenomorph film. Instead, I just watch Blomkamp's short film "Rakka" and pretend like that's his "Alien 5." 😂

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    Ай бұрын

    It would have certainly been an interesting route to go down. Could have been good, could have been horrible. We will never really know!

  • @JooshMe
    @JooshMe3 ай бұрын

    Damn. I love all of this. Too bad Ridley’s ego got in the way.

  • @iguanatrader3781

    @iguanatrader3781

    3 ай бұрын

    Somebody did not watch the movie. It is quite the opposite.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Even the part about the crashed Derelict ship from ALIEN being made out of Human DNA?

  • @paddypoolfc3579
    @paddypoolfc35793 ай бұрын

    For all its production problems i didnt think alien 3 deserves all the hate it gets.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Completely agreed!

  • @Hoschie-ww7io
    @Hoschie-ww7io3 ай бұрын

    I still believe they should make a film of River of Pain.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    That would be very interesting!

  • @residentgrigo4701
    @residentgrigo47013 ай бұрын

    What I don´t get is how this shares canon and a world and worldview with the first 2 films. I take Alien 3 (AC) any day over Blomkamp´s vague idea. The art of course is great even if the ideas shown aren´t. The mini bursters are beyond comical. Make this into a comic or rewrite it into an original comic/anime plot with new leads set after Alien 3. With less "evolved" Aliens and no Queen power-suit cosplay trash and we might have a B- on our hands.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    It would have been messy and confusing, that's for sure.

  • @tenforward715
    @tenforward7153 ай бұрын

    Some things are best left in the past; they can never recreate the magic and wonder of our beloved movies/TV Series’s that we grew up watching in the 70s, 80s and 90s. My imagination is all I rely on now days. I’m far from caring about remakes, prequels or sequels, because I’ve been burnt too many times, and incorrectly labelled as something because I did not agree nor confirm to a modern take.

  • @BlueMarsalis

    @BlueMarsalis

    3 ай бұрын

    Alien Isolation's great, Prey's great, and Romulus will be great. It just depends upon the people.

  • @TheCosmicFireStar
    @TheCosmicFireStar3 ай бұрын

    In ways these ideas are absurd but in another perspective intriguing, could've been atrocious, could've been solid it's a question how it's executed. We've had our share of mediocre Alien movies that other fans have found value in and the franchise has kept going. Was half and half about the retcon decision, partly due to it being hard to make a satisfying continuation to Alien3 and Resurrection after how those films are regarded, the continuity was already thrown into split timelines with Williams Gibson's treatment being adapted into a comic and audio drama. Some fans lament this movie didn't happen whereas others are relieved. Theres a guarantee there will be other later Alien Legacy Sequels Reboots in the future, some films will be mediocre others will be competent. Like this Xenomorph itself it's endures.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    It was certainly an interesting situation indeed.

  • @chrishateley5582
    @chrishateley55822 ай бұрын

    But what role would Sharlto Copley play?

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    He said he'd enjoy playing a xenomorph!

  • @Ryglado
    @Ryglado3 ай бұрын

    I was all-in on Bloomkamp directing but not writing.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    He is a fantastic director, but his writing is the opposite. And he seemed too set on his own ideas to budge away from them.

  • @tacoborg7088
    @tacoborg70883 ай бұрын

    This movie would have been great if it was an alien rippoff, rather then alien 5

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    A big "DO YOU REMEMBER!?" party of a movie.

  • @karlheinz3152
    @karlheinz31523 ай бұрын

    This DNA stuff sounds... weird! Would it be something like eggmorphing? I think i really don't understand how this should work out.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    3 ай бұрын

    Very weird, right?! I think it's safe to assume it would be like egg morphing, or some similar type of method is how the process was started. I wasn't given the full exact detailing of the process of that, unfortunately.

  • @karlheinz3152

    @karlheinz3152

    3 ай бұрын

    @@MikesMonsters there is a concept art of a morphing guy and Ripley is scared of him. Maybe something like this. I have to say, i like this more than the Black goo. But its still weird. 😀

  • @Right_Said_Brett

    @Right_Said_Brett

    3 ай бұрын

    @@MikesMonsters I suspect that we can see a part of the process in one of the concept art pieces within your video; the one where Ripley is looking distraught over human soup stuck to the wall.

  • @slang1517

    @slang1517

    Ай бұрын

    Basically, the idea is that the Derelict spaceship is a Von Neumann probe. It's a cybernetic organism that was designed to be self-replicating. The Xenomorph functions like a cell that both copies itself and converts raw material into new space ships. I imagine it would look similar to eggmorphing, with many people being brought to a growing mass of hive material which melts them down and assimilates their matter.

  • @scottedwards8220
    @scottedwards82202 ай бұрын

    I want to reiterate, the ultimate plans for Alien 5 were nothing short of a steaming pile of garbage. Good God has Neil even seen the first two? He would have done to Alien what Shane Black did to Predator.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    It certainly would have been messy, that's for sure.

  • @vampi_vamp
    @vampi_vamp3 ай бұрын

    I'm glad this never got produced.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Agreed!

  • @TheCosmicFireStar
    @TheCosmicFireStar3 ай бұрын

    38:38 the follow up to Alien Covenant could potentially have been called Alien Destiny? There were vague reportings that confused whether Ridley’s next entry would’ve been called Alien Awakening or if that was the title for Blomkamp’s unmade film. Was Alien Destiny a place holder or just a potential working title?

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    The name Destiny could have been changed later on, but that was the internal name used at the studio during early talks.

  • @0311uli
    @0311uli3 ай бұрын

    Knowing how devisive Covenant was for offing Shaw and the Engineers and having David created a sect of Xenos, to Neil coming in and not only tossing what Scott did, but now have the derelict being made from human DNA and by that ruining the extended universe oof...I can see why Fox pulled the plug here and glad they did that since we gain Ripley back at the cost of destroying the extended universe...oh no lol!

  • @danielwoods3563

    @danielwoods3563

    3 ай бұрын

    If you remove the fan-service comebacks of Ripley, Hicks and Newt, what did this movie offer? Take away those character resurrections, and you’re left with a hot mess, which sounds like an incoherent mish mash of Aliens, District 9 and Chappie.

  • @0311uli

    @0311uli

    3 ай бұрын

    @@danielwoods3563 exactly and a horrible at it. Chappie truly shat da bed here. Watched it opening weekend thinking alright let’s see what he’s cooking here. My gawd that was a train wreck from the script to the editing. I thought they gave this clown the reigns to Alien. But thank goodness that film bombed since we would have gotten a dumpster fire with whatever this was going to be.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Yep, I was shocked to learn about the DNA aspect. Especially with all of his talk of taking it back to what fans wanted and correcting things. That to me, threw everything out the window and made it much worse than what we had been given from previous films and the prequels.

  • @nightshadeii9248
    @nightshadeii9248Ай бұрын

    Thank god Blomkamp’s A5 was shelved. Sounded (and looked), like hot garbage.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    Ай бұрын

    It certainly would have been something messy!

  • @nazmisuhaimi847
    @nazmisuhaimi8473 ай бұрын

    Hope they turn this into comic book like Alien 3 unmade script that consist Hicks as main character.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Completely agreed!

  • @sdwone
    @sdwone3 ай бұрын

    We're STILL banging on about this!? Let it lie man! For better or for worse, things have moved on! And we have a new film coming up anyway... Which COULD be.... COULD be... A good Alien film for once!!!

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    I think fans will dig what Romulus has to offer once they can feast their eyes on it.

  • @PeteFD1986
    @PeteFD19863 ай бұрын

    Very difficult to make it through all of this due to the plain disrespect I’m hearing from Blomkamp regarding Alien 3. To have the audacity to come along and try to make a film which wipes #3 from canon with the SAME lead actor is crazy. I’m not denying his talent in filmmaking, clearly he’s very skilled. But this idea comes across like a teenager who didn’t get his own way. Say what you want about Alien 3 but it’s a very powerful and definitive ending for Ripley. I actually think the film holds up better than Aliens and I know I’m not the only one who feels that. Excellent cast, amazing visuals, I think given what went on behind the scenes we got was a stunning movie

  • @earthcitizen3939

    @earthcitizen3939

    3 ай бұрын

    I didn't care for Newt and Hicks, alien has never been about happiness and family, so screw that. Either kill Ripley, Newt, or Hicks but don't keep all of them. Alien 3 is my favorite even though some people dislike it.

  • @Jerry98x

    @Jerry98x

    3 ай бұрын

    Alien³ isn't even a bad movie! Maybe the theatrical release... but the Assembly Cut is definitely a good movie.

  • @ETM2024

    @ETM2024

    3 ай бұрын

    Rose coloured glasses.

  • @peterkrochmalni673

    @peterkrochmalni673

    3 ай бұрын

    THAT was the only reason to love the idea of Blomkamp’s ALIEN movie. The total erasure of alien3, and resurrection as a bonus.

  • @allmightyvids543

    @allmightyvids543

    3 ай бұрын

    Alien 3 is trash I'm sorry but it serves no purpose.... they should of all died at the end of aliens if that's what the studio wanted... , William Gibsons original script was better . And then we wouldn't have had resurrection either , just my opinion though.

  • @RandomBradCreator
    @RandomBradCreator3 ай бұрын

    Excellent Work , Cheers 🍻

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for watching, Brad!

  • @RandomBradCreator

    @RandomBradCreator

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MikesMonsters thank You 😉

  • @jmh8697
    @jmh86973 ай бұрын

    It's a shame this never quite got off the ground, but if Fede's Romulus movie is a success, perhaps Disney/20thCentury will explore it again?

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Maybe in comic form or something, but I can't see Neill wanting to come back after he was burned so badly by the project.

  • @monacaravetta

    @monacaravetta

    Ай бұрын

    I would so love that. But Sigourney and Michael aren't getting any younger.

  • @micahrutland9021

    @micahrutland9021

    14 күн бұрын

    Sigourney already said she's done with Alien.

  • @monacaravetta

    @monacaravetta

    14 күн бұрын

    @@micahrutland9021 I suspect if the story was solid with a great script she would love to give Ellen Ripley a proper goodbye

  • @micahrutland9021

    @micahrutland9021

    14 күн бұрын

    @@monacaravetta I'm sure the story was Solid too, but Sigourney Weaver said in a recent interview that that the ship has sailed for her and the Alien franchise. I think she woulda done it back in 2015, but by now...I Don't really blame her.

  • @williamblakemore6330
    @williamblakemore63303 ай бұрын

    Love Blomkamp but yh this film doesn't sound like my cup of tea for a big film anyway. Wouldn't mind for a comic version as he did put good work into the project so I do feel he deserves his story to be told.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    I say bring on a comic version.

  • @BlueMarsalis
    @BlueMarsalis3 ай бұрын

    Noah Hawley and Fede Alvarez have both called the first three Aliens all great films. So it is certainly in good hands now.

  • @T--kq3pj

    @T--kq3pj

    3 ай бұрын

    lol, yeah right, because if anything, that is what guarantee a success

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Because they are smart men!

  • @jetsetwilly2972
    @jetsetwilly29723 ай бұрын

    Na this alien 5 was gonna be the best alien movie since 86, all out action packed with the old cast but no we got a bunch of kids running around space screaming and the fact Neil was going forward where Ridley is going backwards and in between

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    So you think the derelict ship being found out to be made out of human DNA by the Xenomorphs is a step forward?

  • @BKBEDSTUY
    @BKBEDSTUY3 ай бұрын

    We need an Alien tv series that’s absolutely terrifying

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    I think we will be getting that with the new series coming next year!

  • @WhosNick
    @WhosNick3 ай бұрын

    Still sad we didn't get to see this love Neill's work!

  • @BlueMarsalis

    @BlueMarsalis

    3 ай бұрын

    I think we dodged a death of the intellectual property.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Maybe we will see it adapted in comic form one day.

  • @TheMightyCookieShow
    @TheMightyCookieShow3 ай бұрын

    I still want this film! Why can't we have this? They're doing everything and anything why not just do this as well cuz everybody wants to see it? And Neal is one of those guys that I wish hollywood would rubber stamp about anything he might want to do.

  • @BlueMarsalis

    @BlueMarsalis

    3 ай бұрын

    I am glad it got cancelled.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    I think Neill wasn't too keen on changing some of his whacky ideas, like the derelict ship from the first movie being made out of human DNA by Xenomorphs. He doesn't seem as open to outside ideas.

  • @WeylandYutaniCorp91
    @WeylandYutaniCorp913 ай бұрын

    Well, first I wanna say, I've campaigned for years of an Alien film that retcons Alien3 & Alien Resurrection, because I never liked those sequels, only Alien & Aliens, before you say it, I've seen the Alien3 special edition, it didn't change my mind. I've also campaigned on an Alien film that would see the return of the Ripley, Hicks, Newt, and Bishop, in fact I've actually made an animated trilogy on the subject on my channel which I spent 5 years of my life on. The animation is terrible, but I gave five of years of my life to I wouldn't trade for the world. As for Blomkamp's Alien 5, it might've been weird, but I'm sure they could've taken all the weird stuff out of it and made into a cool movie, the storyboard seemed to suggest that Wey-Yu had found the Derelict on LV-26 and moved it to their headquarters at Wey-Yu Tower on Earth. Ripley, Hicks, Newt, and Bishop had found out about this and decided to infiltrate the tower and destroy the Aliens environmentalist-style, hence the bomb that was strapped to Ripley's in the storyboard. I even have a name for it, XCF, Xenomorph Countermeasure Force, which I had thought of for one of my drafts when I was writing my trilogy. Anywho, the mission goes south and the Aliens get loose, so Ripley locks down the tower to prevent the Aliens from escaping onto the planet. So our heroes and villains team up and must escape the building and destroy it before can Aliens escape. I also thought, maybe there's some kind of interstellar war going on, hence the South Korean soldier, that makes Wey-Yu want to use the Aliens to sell in arms race this war has sparked.

  • @BlueMarsalis

    @BlueMarsalis

    3 ай бұрын

    This was going to be shit, just like every sequel to Aliens not named Alien³ and you know that to be true, this film wanted to fundamentally change Alien and humanise the otherness out of it.

  • @paulodisho6357

    @paulodisho6357

    3 ай бұрын

    @WeylandYutaniCorp91 I couldn’t agree with you more. I was so excited for Alien 5 to be made. As it never happened I count Aliens as the true ending as Ripley, Newt, Hicks and Bishop were on their way home to Earth. Alien 3 and Resurrection were Ripley’s nightmares during hyper sleep. Those two films in my opinion were abominations.

  • @archangel0891
    @archangel08913 ай бұрын

    I was never on board. Eliminating Alien 3 is a big no-no. Despite Finchers distain, the ending is the gem. Ripley DIES taking down the xenomorph. The queen births from her and she wraps her hands around it taking it down to its demise. NBs movie appeared too left field and essentially bins Alien3. Glad it didnt happen.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    We definitely dodged a bullet to the head for the franchise losing this project. That's for sure.

  • @jasonleveck8546
    @jasonleveck85463 ай бұрын

    Ridley Scott hasn't made a good movie since "Kingdom of Heaven", which is coming up on 20 years.

  • @BlueMarsalis

    @BlueMarsalis

    3 ай бұрын

    The Martian and The Last Duel beg to differ friend.

  • @jasonleveck8546

    @jasonleveck8546

    3 ай бұрын

    @@BlueMarsalis Martian was a flop and the "last duel" was nothing but a vapid attack against men and this phony idea of patriarchy and that men are basically evil. Fuck those movies.

  • @BlueMarsalis

    @BlueMarsalis

    3 ай бұрын

    Alien films are literally about being anti-capitalist and anti-patriarchy lol

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Ehhh, I can't really agree with that one. But we all have different tastes. But Blomkamp's movie wouldn't have been the franchise refresh fans wanted. It would have likely put it in the grave.

  • @jasonleveck8546

    @jasonleveck8546

    2 ай бұрын

    @@BlueMarsalis LOL, if you think Weyland Yutani represents capitalism, then you better start listening to or reading other sources of information. Otherwise, you're exactly the guy the stalinists are always looking for.

  • @iguanatrader3781
    @iguanatrader37813 ай бұрын

    The biggest draw of Alien 5 is that it was unproduced, and people can project their ideas and feelings onto it, thinking it would solve all of their issues that they have with the franchise. In reality the movie could have killed the franchise harder than any other sequel/prequel ever could have.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Agreed! Just because you want it, it might not be good for you!

  • @StephenJMZ
    @StephenJMZ3 ай бұрын

    After heading your commentating and seeing all the information, I think it was good Blomkamp’s idea never went through. I don’t he was the right guy for the film, unlike Fede who really has the background and strength for this series.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    3 ай бұрын

    I think people will be grateful we got Fede's project over Neill's, thought it sucks Blomkamp went through so much to ultimately get nowhere. Thanks for watching!

  • @StephenJMZ

    @StephenJMZ

    3 ай бұрын

    @@MikesMonsters keep up the good work man. Appreciate your videos and commentary. Looking forward your commentary on Alien Romulus.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    3 ай бұрын

    @@StephenJMZ I definitely have more for that lined up for the coming months. Stay tuned, and thanks for being here!

  • @knowthispodcast9182

    @knowthispodcast9182

    3 ай бұрын

    He had Sigourney and Michael on board, plus even though I hate Ridley Scott, he was going to be producing, probably lending his Scott Free Films. You had the fans up in arms about it. They wanted it badly, and we would've loved to have seen what happened after Aliens instead of watching Ripley get tortured and destroyed in Alien 3. Neil's passion for the franchise and the first two movies would've made him more than a confident and competent director. Ridley Scott threw a bunch of salt in the game with his pole. He pushed 20th Century Fox to back out of this, and then it was just more salt in the wound when Ridley Scott's stupid movie Alien: Coincidence failed at the box office, which was also a terrible film. Did you know that Ridley Scott did that film just to sandbag Neil's Alien 5? That was confirmed. Alien 5 would've been a lot better than all the other crap we got. I'm not saying that the new Alien Romulus is going to be bad, but what happened to Alien 5 was a crime. It would have given the fans of James Cameron's action horror classic a good sendoff, even if it was a bad film, which I doubt it would have been, especially with all the passion behind it. Another reason why he didn't get a chance to direct Alien 5 was because of how Chappie did at the box office. I actually liked it, but for some reason, a lot of people couldn't get around those two dumbasses who played the lead anti-heroes. Yes, they were annoying, but Chappie was OK. Now sadly, in current canon, Newt and Hicks died terribly. The amount of story that could've been pulled from this little family, but was destroyed by the studio, is insane. I remember where I was when I heard that there was going to be an Alien 5 with Michael returning. I was in my jeep on the freeway, and when I heard it on a podcast, I went crazy. And then when I heard it wasn't going to be made, and then Ridley Scott's Alien Confused came out, I remember wanting to leave the theater halfway in. It should've been called Alien Fassbender. It was not right what they did to this Director he showed great potential for this franchise, but will never know the world that James Cameron created is what people want and it sells. People were excited about aliens, colonial marines, and they were amused by alien isolation. Once again, Cameron got the ladder treatment for some reason. Fox is indifference to Cameron's world, which is strange because it brought them a lot of money.

  • @stefanrackhamroach9300

    @stefanrackhamroach9300

    3 ай бұрын

    Yhh I recon that’s the reason it got cancelled it was probably shite

  • @skepticalbadger
    @skepticalbadgerАй бұрын

    I am very glad this died. The worst kind of fanwank, and wiping out 3 and A:R, both of which I like. I also hated the railed Pulse Rifle. Alvarez's movie looks so much better. That Alien maquette is beautiful but the rationale for four arms and digitigrade legs is just more fanwank.

  • @lordvlygar2963
    @lordvlygar29633 ай бұрын

    Oof, looks like Fox did the right thing and released the lesser of two evils. I don't know. I think the legacy sequel that Alien needs is the story on earth where they finally openly show that Blade Runner and Alien are in the same universe. Or, or, we can do the right thing and just stay with the first 3 movies. Everything else is just more silly fun that dilutes the integrity of the trilogy.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Fox did the right thing, which is a weird thing to type out.

  • @CarolinaguynTX
    @CarolinaguynTX3 ай бұрын

    Prometheus and Covenant have never grown on me. Ridley Scott should stay out of future Alien projects. I know it's his "baby", but somewhere along the line he lost touch. The "David" character was the worst, don't care about him, good riddance. Prometheus at least had some potential, but Covenant was written so idiotically and with such a lack of intelligence that the writers responsible should stay away from anything more complicated than a "Twilight" sequel going forward.

  • @Armagedd0n

    @Armagedd0n

    3 ай бұрын

    I agree. Another example is Terminator, James Cameron's baby, but he fully supported the last 2 shitty sequels. I now think that they consciously make bad movies to harm such series. I can't think of anything else.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    I like David... He's one of the few things I actually like in the prequels. He's an awesome android addition to the franchise. Where they took him in the plot is another story though.

  • @VindensSaga
    @VindensSaga3 ай бұрын

    I think it was good that this never happened, if it was basically District 9 but with aliens, I am more than happy that this never came out.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Same here! I agree completely.

  • @fadyedits8681
    @fadyedits86813 ай бұрын

    These Aliens2 fans man ughhh. This franchise is not everyone childhood dream of living happily ever after If you sad that Newt and Hicks are gone get over that shit and grow up honestly it's only those Aliens2 fans that is destroying this franchise with there wet dreams about Ripley and Hicks living happily ever after raising Newt like this is not a Disney show it suppose to be dark and brutal and I'm happy with what the sequels have brought and the only thing I hated about Prometheus and Covenant was the futuristic taste and abandoning the retro aesthetic of the original regardless that I liked those movies.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Romulus brings back the dark and brutal that I think fans have been hoping for. Blomkamp's project would have been a wild messy ride, and not in a fun way.

  • @fadyedits8681

    @fadyedits8681

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MikesMonsters hope Romulus turns to be good and totally agree about blomkamp messy view for the franchise

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    @@fadyedits8681 I think fans are gonna have a fun time with Romulus. ;)

  • @fadyedits8681

    @fadyedits8681

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MikesMonsters I hope so

  • @BEAVISKORNHOLIO69
    @BEAVISKORNHOLIO693 ай бұрын

    I wonder if Neil bloomkamp is pissed that a new Alien movie is being made now by Fede Alvarez and not him? As much as I like Neil's ideas about bringing back Ripley Newt and Hicks I trust that Fede Alvarez will do a better job with Alien Romulus and his vision

  • @user-mk5ui7ij1d

    @user-mk5ui7ij1d

    2 ай бұрын

    Нет этот фильм с треском провалится как и Прометей и завет

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    I don't think Neill is happy about the franchise in general at this point.

  • @stevenfraser81
    @stevenfraser813 ай бұрын

    Great video but having seen how bad every movie Blomkamp has made post District 9, I'm glad he didn't get to make Alien 5. It would have been crap and would have done further damage to the brand after how bad Covenant was too. I have way more faith in Fede Alvarez than a guy who hasn't made a good movie since 2009.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for watching! I completely agree with you!

  • @theshallowsouls2047
    @theshallowsouls20473 ай бұрын

    Make this shit happen now....

  • @eustacequinlank7418
    @eustacequinlank74183 ай бұрын

    Fellow farted in the Instagram elevator then got out. I think what he did was pretty cynical and a really, really p**s poor example of trying to get a movie off the ground through internet fan anointed hype and approval. Manipulative. Giving fan news circuits the idea they have some form of control or final say rather than the filmmakers as if they cast Christian Bale in Batman Begins or the like. Given the online vibe you mention and rather unreasonable hate trains that developed (I really do understand the criticism, however), you really won't see a conclusion to what was a pretty decent alien side story with David I suspect. Although, you would still likely be seeing a similar expansion of the series as it has taken with new books, games and other filmed stories since, because of those two films. What a waste. That's 'fan power'... It's what gave us AvP.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    His methods were certainly suspicious and raised my eyebrow a few time when compiling all the information for the video.

  • @earthcitizen3939
    @earthcitizen39393 ай бұрын

    This seems terrible, thank F they didn't make this and retconned Alien 3. Alien 3 is 10 times better than what this seems likely to have turned into.

  • @peterkrochmalni673

    @peterkrochmalni673

    3 ай бұрын

    And doesn’t alter the fact alien3 is a franchise killer.

  • @Right_Said_Brett

    @Right_Said_Brett

    3 ай бұрын

    @@peterkrochmalni673 Um... they made another 5 movies with the alien in it, following Alien 3's release. How is that a "franchise killer"?

  • @peterkrochmalni673

    @peterkrochmalni673

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Right_Said_Brett all prequels. Nothing set after the alien3 or resurrection timelines. The franchise comes to an end after alien3 with nowhere to go. So, the simple answer is that in order for the franchise to move forward they have to erase alien3 and make a new third movie.

  • @Right_Said_Brett

    @Right_Said_Brett

    3 ай бұрын

    @@peterkrochmalni673 But... Resurrection followed Alien 3, so no; it was not a "franchise killer". Also, why do seem to think that the studio can't make an Alien movie without Ripley (in fact, there's literally such a movie coming out in August)?

  • @peterkrochmalni673

    @peterkrochmalni673

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Right_Said_Brett “Resurrection” 😆 oh wait, you’re serious. Let me laugh even harder 😂 😂 😂

  • @MrJojoringo
    @MrJojoringo3 ай бұрын

    Meh he's just a very average director, District 9 was a one hit wonder

  • @cheap_clips

    @cheap_clips

    3 ай бұрын

    He's got something that nobody has, some SciFi futuristic brutal emotional vision, I like all his movies but that one about demonic possession. District 9 has still the best special effects after the Avatar movies, plus the gore, I'd like to see his alien movie, it'd be at least better than Prometheus and Covenant.

  • @maxdunord2451
    @maxdunord24513 ай бұрын

    Blomkamp's ideas for a new Alien movie are so poor (it would never be Alien 5 from obvious reasons). The lad had done D9 and after that all was pretty shitty, he can't write a good story anymore. There is a proper sequel to Aliens, it was released in 1992 and it's called Alien³. Is he done with a new version of Robcop 2 too (as he didn't like the actual R2). Pathetic.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Agreed! He seems to have a thing for "correcting" franchises he thinks went wrong. But his opinion is not the same as all the other fans, and I think we got lucky that his project never saw the light of day.

  • @Anamnesis
    @Anamnesis3 ай бұрын

    Mixed feelings on Blomkamp. Obviously a talented filmmaker, but even his good stuff always feels like it's missing beats or lacking resolution. If the weird ideas about the retroconned derelict and xenomorph exoarmor are factual and not just some misinterpreted detail, it wouldn't surprise me. He goes out on a limb with crazy ideas but doesn't take the audience along in the way someone like Cameron does with relatable characters and quippy dialog to guide audiences through his ideas. Throw in the ego pissing match with Scott and the Fox fallout and it's doomed. What the franchise needs is a quality character driven story with a fresh take on the material that isn't trying to just live under the shadow of Scott and Cameron with pandering fan service by regurgitating their imagery. Recent entries may have been flawed films, but at least they were trying a novel approach. I suspect Romulus will be the inverse of that: not as flawed, but also not original either, because it's just another love letter to Scott and Cameron. It's like these films can literally only be either completely derivative or completely peculiar, but can't do both at the same time. Who knows, maybe Hawley can deliver something that is both fresh and cohesive for once...

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Completely agreed!

  • @D88niel
    @D88niel3 ай бұрын

    So Ridley Scott is the one who got in the way, fox had all the cards on him but he failed, it's Kinda sad when we see what a terrible job Ridley did with Prometheus and Alien Covenant. awful awful movies They made alien 3 and alien resurrection look like Shakespeare. honestly id rather have one Neill Blomkamp ALIENS sequel than 2 Ridley Scott prequels, to much faith and religion garbage for my taste, just bad movies overall.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    In the video I explained that it wasn't Ridley, but Fox that pulled the plug. Ridley wasn't involved much.

  • @desanc33
    @desanc333 ай бұрын

    It’s such a shame that we got the generic horror turd that was covenant

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Luckily Romulus is correcting that one's wrongs.

  • @JohnSmith-pj6wb
    @JohnSmith-pj6wb3 ай бұрын

    crazy how this movie would have done as well as top gun 2 and made them so much money but cancelled it and decided to make the other crap ones no one even remembers and made crap compared to what this could have made... and now theyre going even lower making an aliens movie with teens lol...no we didnt want teens or stupid movies with hardly any actual xenomorphs like weve known them... what we want is this...and space marines ffs why is this so hard for hollywood

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    They aren't teenagers in the new movie. They're mid to late twenties, which are adults. Just younger ones. Sigourney was in her late twenties in the first ALIEN. You wanted the derelict ship from ALIEN to be found out to be made out of human DNA BY Xenomorphs thanks to Neill Blomkamp?

  • @marcnoonan2187
    @marcnoonan2187Ай бұрын

    I haven’t forgiven this A** Holes for scuttling Alien 5. Instead of a sequel set between Aliens and Alien 3. They decide on one between Alien and Aliens.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    Ай бұрын

    You like the idea of the derelict ship from ALIEN being made out of human DNA? And Ripley wearing Xenomorph armor to run around in a suit like District 9?

  • @marcnoonan2187

    @marcnoonan2187

    Ай бұрын

    @MikesMonsters That wasn’t the only version for Alien V. One version Ridley Scott and James Cameron worked on would have taken place after Resurrection. The only reason that the time between Aliens and Alien 3 didn’t fly is the fact the USS Sulaco never made it back after LV426 She was destroyed. Newt and Hicks were killed when their EEV Crashed on Fiorina 161. I’ll definitely watch Alien Romulas. Either way it’s a moot point. Sigourney weaver was excited for Alien 5 by Niall Blomkamp’s version. But last year Sigourney Weaver said she won’t do another Alien. Not even as Ripley 8.

  • @gold333
    @gold3333 ай бұрын

    Upvoted this video and downvoted it at the last 5 minutes

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Don't shoot the messenger! The downvotes don't help the creator! I was just sharing the information, it wasn't my ideas. :D

  • @Khultan
    @Khultan3 ай бұрын

    Ridley Scott's crappy stories.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Neil's idea of the derelict ship from ALIEN being made out of human DNA by xenomorph saliva wasn't much better...

  • @Khultan

    @Khultan

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MikesMonsters Thank you.

  • @martynstembridge7714
    @martynstembridge77143 ай бұрын

    This human DNA making the Derelict thing needs much more explanation really ... We'll probably never get it, but just one sentence about it doesn't really help us to wrap our brains around it. I always thought the ship seemed biomechanical, so maybe the concept was linked to that. But the problem would be the Space Jockey and his 'chair' ... Did the Aliens hire the big guy to fly their ship around the Galaxy? It's an unusual revelation, but not enough to make me less angry that we will never get to see Neill's vision.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Maybe with time we will get all the answers and explanations.

  • @slang1517

    @slang1517

    Ай бұрын

    I believe the idea is that the ship is a Von Neumann probe. It's a biomechanical organism designed to replicate itself and spread through space. The aliens are like the ship's cells, programmed to multiply and harvest material to build new ships. I think it's an interesting idea, and it seems to imply the aliens were created by an advanced intelligence. I imagine the aliens aren't the brains of the operation, they are just droids that act on instinct.

  • @SoniListon-lu4cn
    @SoniListon-lu4cn3 ай бұрын

    This theme cant be milked anymore. Someone should do what they did in the late 70s, that is, to find talented people to come up with sth new.

  • @naleparyan
    @naleparyan3 ай бұрын

    ROMULUS is gonna bomb, big time... as will that TV Series in 2025... for more reasons than 1... and NOT the least of which is because BOTH Directors are AWFUL

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Have ye little faith? I can promise you, they're better than what Blomkamp would have made.

  • @theshallowsouls2047
    @theshallowsouls20473 ай бұрын

    I changed my mind. Don't make it. Seems like it wouldn't have gone the way fans wanted

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    A big switch! Glad to have helped inform you!

  • @martynstembridge7714
    @martynstembridge77143 ай бұрын

    I never believed what Ridley said regarding just a ten page treatment and brief chats with Fox .... Neill clearly had invested a LOT of time and preparation into this movie, and I believe he was given a green light at one point ... just too many people mentioned how excited they were to start making it. Ridley probably felt it would undermine his Prometheus story, and slapped his giant dick down on the Fox table - demanding that Neill's movie be canned. He was terrified that a FAR superior Alien movie would get the fans buzzing, and it would kill interest in his 'David' trilogy. I would have LOVED to see this made ... as I think it was the BIG ambitious movie this franchise needed to bring it to life once again. The sequel to Aliens that we dreamed about as kids.

  • @RoaryUK

    @RoaryUK

    3 ай бұрын

    Blomkamp is nothing more than an Aliens fan boy who would have retconned everything after that movie and Fox were right to pull the plug. Never going to happen end of!

  • @choronzon69

    @choronzon69

    3 ай бұрын

    😂 Far superior? Juggernauts grown from human DNA? 😂 Dude it was horrible fan fiction and you're making wild assumptions. Scott just came off the hugely successful The Martian and Covenant was already in pre-production. Chappie was a failure critically and commercially, it was obvious who Fox were going to back.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    I'm not sure human DNA being used to make the derelict ship we see in ALIEN is the sequel we dreamed about as kids. Nor Ripley wearing xenomorph armor to fight off the bugs. Lots of messiness in this story.

  • @knowthispodcast9182
    @knowthispodcast91823 ай бұрын

    Scott is an Ego monster 😡

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Blomkamp sounds like he has a bit of an ego too.

  • @danielvargas6414
    @danielvargas64143 ай бұрын

    Provably the only good Alien movie who deserves being produced. SAD.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Even with the weird ideas he had like the derelict ship from ALIEN being made out of human DNA by the xenomorph's saliva?

  • @HoDLum
    @HoDLum3 ай бұрын

    so basically, Ridley Scott killed the project so his crappy Covenant could go forward,

  • @martynstembridge7714

    @martynstembridge7714

    3 ай бұрын

    Yup.

  • @jakicevic

    @jakicevic

    3 ай бұрын

    *Fox

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Not exactly, it wasn't his doing. Fox made the decisions after Covenant didn't perform. This was supposed to start production shortly after Covenant hit theaters.

  • @thomasjohnson5377
    @thomasjohnson53773 ай бұрын

    I’m so upset that blomkamp didn’t make this film is pisses me off fox E F’ed this up F Fox.

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    You like the crashed derelict ship from ALIEN being made out of human DNA by Xenomorphs?

  • @OffensiveAtheist
    @OffensiveAtheist3 ай бұрын

    Instead of "Alien 5" you get "The Acolyte" The real horror story is what Disney would have "changed"

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Disney wasn't involved in the project at all, or would have been if this film had actually come out. The buyout happened way later than this one's intended release date. Plus, they didn't pull punches for Romulus. It's far from tame.

  • @UpFromTheDepths88
    @UpFromTheDepths883 ай бұрын

    Yeah not really a fan of that last plot point you revealed 🫤

  • @MikesMonsters

    @MikesMonsters

    2 ай бұрын

    Yep, it was an immediate "EW! NO!" from me once I was given that information.

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