Alia is my favorite Dune character. So much power at her fingertips, but her primary motivation is love for her big brother.

Jessica & Paul should have protected her more. Even though she was one of the most powerful characters in Dune, thinking she was indestructible was a big mistake on her mother & brothers' part.

@hannahcallow6374

9 ай бұрын

I think Paul knew 😢

@phlippbergamot5723

3 ай бұрын

Paul Knew and let her walk the path she had to walk.

@LarsvanZon

2 ай бұрын

Ehhh, they are characters in a book, not real persons. And as a character in a book you cannot influence the writer who needs mayhem in order to sell books and pay for food for his children ;-)

@paulinemegson8519

2 ай бұрын

@@LarsvanZonwhich is entirely not the point at ALL

@NC-ij9rb

2 ай бұрын

There was no saving her. Her ancestors would've taken oven her consciousness sooner or later

An uncaring manipulative mother, a fragile identity overwhelmed by the toxicity of family history, drug use and abuse and finally a state like untreated schizophrenia and a society that did not know how to help her.

@TheSmokey1523

2 ай бұрын

Well she would literally kill anyone who “threatened” her. No one could have put her out of her misery but Leto 2. Jessica really did not do her right as she was prioritizing Paul’s survival and success. Alia was treated like an afterthought.

Fun fact, according to the first book, a reverend mother had only the female line as memories. So the Baron as dominating personality over Alia was probably a mistake.

@TheSmokey1523

2 ай бұрын

She was exposed to the spice before she was born which unlocked everything same as Paul and Leto 2, except she was not strong enough to keep them at bay and allowed the Baron, a malicious domineering presence,to take over. that’s why the Bene Gesserit wanted the Kwisatz Haderach to access all ancestral memories men and women. Alia was a tragic character who was never really in control of her own life. She was driven to madness by the voices.

@SjofnBM1989

2 ай бұрын

She was preborn she had the genetic memories of ALL her ancestors men and women.

Alia is by far one of my favorite characters. I love these videos so much. I appreciate that you don't give the history from only 1 source, but include from BOTH previous movies as well as the book.

@gokiburi-chan4255

Жыл бұрын

I hope they do her justice.

@kalebproductions9316

Жыл бұрын

When I read Children of Dune I was blown away with the depiction of the Baron taking possession of her. The mini-series really did a good job of it, especially because the live Baron floated on suspensors and her the mental remnant of him, he did so also. Wild.

Interesting portrayal of Alia in Part 2. Mostly as an embryo communicating with Jessica and then later with Paul. We see Alia once as an adult p,aged by Anna Taylor-Joy.

Jessica did NOT take the water of life for power 🤦‍♂️ she did it to save Paul. Had she not become the new clan mother, Paul would have been executed, eventually by the clan. This bought him entrance into the clan. 🐻

@paulinemegson8519

2 ай бұрын

And power. Jessica was driven by wanting Paul to take his fathers position as the new Duke…..so yes, power was definitely a factor. Alia came a very long last in her mothers estimation and consideration.

@alexpratt71

2 ай бұрын

@@paulinemegson8519 I disagree. I don’t believe power had anything to do with her choice in the moment. In the moment, her only wish was that Paul survived. If Paul was executed, all her dreams for him would have died. All her suffering and sacrifice would have been for nothing. The loss of her duke would have been for nothing. She risked her life to save her son, the power gained through succeeding in changing the water of life and the position it gained them both, was incidental, in the moment. Because she would have done it regardless of gaining power. But I do agree that, unfortunately, Alia was barely even a consideration in her equation, until she awakened during the transformation.

@rochellemcdonald2610

Ай бұрын

Why would they kill paul if he was the the prophesied the one

@alexpratt71

Ай бұрын

@@rochellemcdonald2610 dude. Read the book again. Not everyone thought he was the voice from the outer world. And even those who did, were wise enough to allow it to unfold as it would and not try to force prophecy into existence, they weren’t space Jews, lol

Alia was a very tragic character. My heart always went out to her…

Its all about Alia. She's the reason I'm a Dune fan. Well, her and Ian McNeice's Barron Harkonnen....I loved the way they interacted in both Sci Fi Channel shows.

@Rye_Toast

2 ай бұрын

Ian was fantastic in the role. I'm still warming up to the new movie's portrayal, but Ian IS the Baron to me.

@pentegarn1

2 ай бұрын

@@Rye_Toast I know. When I read the book its his face and voice I'm pretty much imagining.

It's kind of insane seeing the entire life story of the character that my parents named me after. They had told me growing up I was named after a powerful yet absolutely insane witch and I can see what they were talking about now!

@elizabethjansen2684

Жыл бұрын

@@chinopisces 😅

@originalgoldengoddess

Жыл бұрын

It's a really beautiful name too! The picked well 👌🏽

@sigma80

11 ай бұрын

She was insane because she was "preborn" when her mother became a Reverend Mother. Her sister, one of the twins (Her brother becomes the God Emperor.) that Paul had did survive being preborn, but in an odd way. Read "Children of Dune" to learn about that.

@thierrymamin8339

11 ай бұрын

Lisez toute la saga D'une...

@Shan_Dalamani

9 ай бұрын

@@sigma80 The twins were not Alia's siblings. Ghanima and Leto were Alia's niece and nephew. Alia had no sisters. Her only sibling was Paul.

I hope they do her justice she is one of the most interesting dune characters and yeah I kinda blame Jessica on alias fate she should have known

@elizabethjansen2684

Жыл бұрын

Jessica had no idea how to correct it.

@coreycanham2330

Жыл бұрын

@elizabethjansen2684 she kinda shouldn't have gone thru with drinking the water of life she was smart enough to know the consequences tho

@elizabethjansen2684

Жыл бұрын

@Corey Canham I don't think she really understood all the consequences though. My impression was she thought it might kill the fetus not create a preborn. Her thought before drinking was should she risk them both. Obviously Jessica couldn't be preborn but could die. Her thought didn't differentiate 2 outcomes. Acolyetes aren't generally given specific information to avoid tainting the "test" . We do that even now in some tests to avoid bias and causing false outcomes. Science especially because of what they call the observer effect. Not staying yeah that was cowardly but as she admitted to ghannima she was terrified and after years under extreme stress she broke. Kinda like the batter wives that snap even committing murder or helping to commit crimes.

@sigma80

11 ай бұрын

Jessica was never considered for a Reverend Mother, she was a royal consort and in the breeding program to produce a daughter, to marry a Harkonan heir, end the "Feud" and then she produce the Bene Gesserit "Chosen One". Jessica was not given Spice knowledge or how Reverend Mothers train to survive the "Spice Agony" or die trying. Her role didn't require it. She didn't even know her father was the Baron.

@Shan_Dalamani

9 ай бұрын

@@sigma80 None of the regular Bene Gesserit know who their biological parents were. The only ones who know are the ones in charge of the breeding program.

As far as I have read I don’t believe Jessica could refuse the spice agony. Her and Paul’s life required it.

@catzkeet4860

Жыл бұрын

That's not the issue. The twins Ghani and Leto II proved that foreknowledge wasn't the instant path to abomination as the Bene Gesserit imagined. The difference was that the twins had protectors in their genetic background.... Chani for Ghani, and Paul for Leto. They stopped the poisonous ancestors from having sole voice while they were still too young to develop their own personality. Also in the outside world, the twins had protectors and each other for support. Jessica on the other hand, left Alia alone with no support... Ofc she fell for the Baron Harkonnens blandishments... She never really had a chance and both her mother and brother should take equal responsibility in her fall.

@elizabethjansen2684

Жыл бұрын

@catz Keet Jessica didn't know how to fix it. She did admit she fled in terror. Anyone can be overwhelmed especially after all she went through

@ismata3274

Жыл бұрын

@@catzkeet4860 exactly

@catzkeet4860

11 ай бұрын

@@elizabethjansen2684 Jessica didn't try.... she ran away. Nor did Paul help his sister, and at the time, he was probably the only person who even "could" understand her. . They both abandoned Alia to her inevitable fate. Fear, however "justifiable" you feel it might be, is no excuse. It doesn't take the responsibility away from Jessica as Alias mother.

@elizabethjansen2684

11 ай бұрын

@catz Keet yes Jessica did run away, she admitted it to ghanima. But you fail to take into account she had several years of unrelenting stress and fears. As far as she knew there wasn't much that could be done. It wasn't until the twins discovered a way that there was enough knowledge to deal with it. Paul had only the faintest idea of what she dealt with. You might as well expect a grade school teacher to perform surgery.

"What fates befell those who've ignored me?" Saint Alia of the Knife - The Arrakis Godbook

i woud argue that, of all tragic heroes in the atreides line (Leto I, Paul, Alia, Leto II). the God Emperor is the champ. At a human level, yes, Alia takes the throne (pun intended). At a universal level, Leto II knowingly and presciently sacrificed himself for the entire humanity. Great video, btw.

Great character. Great video. I am so happy I hunted down the dvd set of children of dune and watched it. One of my priced nerd lair posessions! Wish my friends would dare to watch it!

The baron's weight was part disease. A parting gift from Jessica's mother in the House prequel books.

I hope we see Alia Atraties in the next movie.

@lordcrunk4790

Жыл бұрын

Maybe spoilers... I've heard they've written out Saint Alia in some lame way. Why? Time, complexity, who knows. We'll have to wait for the next reboot.

@jaegerbomb269

10 ай бұрын

@@lordcrunk4790 if they do that, I'll be pissed.

@Arthur_CNW

10 ай бұрын

@lordcrunk4790 Look at the new trailer, at 02:50. I don't think that's Paul walking with the worm behind him, but the girl that can be seen to the right behind Stilgar in the frame right before the worm.

@Shan_Dalamani

9 ай бұрын

@@lordcrunk4790 If Villeneuve followed the book as he's bragged he's done (in spite of some real whoppers that show he really didn't follow the book), Alia will appear as an infant and a toddler. By the end of the book, she's 4 years old. Since she's the one who kills the Baron, writing her out would prove beyond all doubt that Villeneuve has no clue at all what he's doing. And no, I don't give a damn about spoilers. The book has been in publication for 58 years.

@jaquillamros3475

2 ай бұрын

spoiler: shes in dune part 2

Anya as Alia is going to be perfect

I so missed Alia in Part 2. Seeing her kill the Baron is one of my absolute favorite scenes.

Was the original movie good? Yes. Was it a representation of the books...Not really. The SciFI mini series did not have the same production value, but it really is the BEST representation of the lore and characters for the most part. That is, until Dune 2021. I just hope the Villeneuve sticks to the original lore, and have Leto II and Ghanima as their actual ages rather than aging them up.

@Shan_Dalamani

9 ай бұрын

That would make some scenes in Children of Dune a bit awkward, when it comes to Ghanima mating with Farad'n and Leto having that scene with Sabiha. Besides, what 9-year-old actors could begin to do justice to this material?

Keep these Dune videos coming.

If only. They failed here in the 2nd new Dune movie. It so sad really. Much of the current remake is good. They should have made Paul's ascension take a few years. But they crammed it into a handful of months, which in and of itself is silly, since gaining the trust and consolidation of power among the Freeman would have taken years, not months. And also, they left Alia in the womb, castrating this aspect of the story. Creepy Toddler-preschooler Alia is one of the best parts of the story. Ruined.

Greatly appreciate your video. We all now know it is Anya Taylor that is Alia, but not sure how she is portrayed.

What spells and magic are you referring to? Could you site the line exactly from the books and also her "psychic" powers. Do you mean prescience?

Come to think of it ,, there's possibly many more movies from the various books of this series . There's Dune , Dune Messiah , God Emperor of Dune , Children of Dune and Charterhouse Dune

These "Origins" videos repeatedly use the epithet "witch" in reference to sisters of the Bene Gesserit. I'm certainly aware that this phrase is used in the novels, but if my memory serves me, it was always as a pejorative, and never used self-referentially. I'm certainly also aware that its a bit absurd to advocate on behalf of characters of a work of fiction, I do think that the phrase is perhaps inappropriate, as these videos otherwise seem to intend a neutral description of Herbert's characters and narratives,

@elizabethjansen2684

Жыл бұрын

Actually their origins were sorcerers and witches; not to mention they used it to their advantages

Please, Bene Gesserit are not “magical” or perform “spells”, it is all about mind and body control. Saying the former is ridiculing a master piece of philosophical science fiction.

Alia's fate is absolutely heartbreaking

One reason Alia could get inside reverne mother mohiam is because mohiam ia her grandmother who laid with the gay baron harkonnen.

@tgiacin435

Жыл бұрын

You consider the EU books canon too?

@constancepullen810

Жыл бұрын

@@tgiacin435 yes everything is written from Herbert's notes. Check House Harkonnen

@elizabethjansen2684

Жыл бұрын

Actually it was a use of time. She commented to Paul in a mental message that not even he could do that.

@Shan_Dalamani

9 ай бұрын

Mohiam is not Alia's grandmother.

@Shan_Dalamani

9 ай бұрын

@@constancepullen810 LOL. KJA and BH have pretended for years that everything in their abominable books was based on the Holy Notes That Frank Left, but there is no way in hell that FH would have left notes that directly contradict his own decades' worth of work.

It's worth mentioning that a truthsayer is her grandmother

@sigma80

11 ай бұрын

Reverend Mother AND a Truthsayer.

@Shan_Dalamani

9 ай бұрын

Mohiam is not Alia's grandmother. Her grandmother was Tanidia Nerus.

@sigma80

9 ай бұрын

@Shan_Dalamani Yes, Mohiam is Paul Atredies Grandmother. So since Lady Jessica is her mother, that makes Mohiam her OTHER Grandmother I believe. Mohiam and Baron Vladmir Harkonan begat Lady Jessica, and Jessica begat Alia with Duke Leto, before his death. So Mohiam is definitely her Grandmother. I think you're mixing up Paul's Twins with Chani.

@Shan_Dalamani

9 ай бұрын

@@sigma80 So you didn't bother actually reading what Frank Herbert wrote. You're just going by the bullshit that Kevin and Brian wrote. 1. It's stated in Dune that the Baron is Jessica's father. 2. It's stated in Children of Dune that Jessica's mother was Tanidia Nerus. 3. It's made abundantly clear throughout FH's books that love and sentiment have no place among the Bene Gesserit, and are to be avoided. There is no way in hell that Mohiam would ever be allowed to be Jessica's teacher in the Bene Gesserit school if she were her biological mother. 4. Where do you get the notion that I'm mixing up the twins with Chani? Chani is their mother. Paul is their father. Alia is their aunt. Liet-Kynes and Duke Leto were their grandfathers (note that Liet-Kynes is a man, not a woman). Faroula and Jessica were their grandmothers. This is all explained either in Dune or in the Dune Encyclopedia (which was approved by Frank Herbert). 5. Seriously, you have no idea what you're talking about. Go read the first three books by Frank Herbert and leave the nuDune shit out of it. I've seen fanfiction that's better than their crap.

@OwenBroadhurst

6 ай бұрын

Brian's fanfic shall never be canon

I named my daughter after her. I knew when I read the book at 15 my daughter would be named Alia

Saint Alia of the Knife

St Alia of the Knife because after the battle of Arrakeen she finished off wounded troops. While Alicia Witt was the best so far I think Briella Guiza may be a good stand in.

Jessica didn't realize that it would change alia at best she thought it would kill the child until; she took the water.

How are they gonna portray her in part2?? Im really intrigued, CGI or child actor with CGI elements. I love the way Lynch did it with dispatching of Vlad but this is a whole new generation with full Hollywood money behind it. #LONGLIVE THEFIGHTERS 💯✊🏾⚔🤺⚔

Thanks

that intro had me wheezing

You would think the female atredeis who hated Harkonnens for long time would be able to over power the barons personality. ESP if also trained benne gesserits. But I don’t know. I ain’t pre born. Yet……

Shout out to this guy for predicting Anya Taylor Joy as Alia

You can tell the guy didn't read the books when he talks about sonic weapons.

Alia of the Knife!

@lordcrunk4790

Жыл бұрын

I hope this rumor is false. I heard she wont be included in Part 2. Alia is integral and in Messiah and CoD. She'd better be in there!

@davidfortuin4146

Жыл бұрын

@@lordcrunk4790 I'll treat as a rumor until something official says so but like you said she integral to the story especially her infancy when she freaks out the Fremen women.

@rubiksworld2170

Жыл бұрын

@@lordcrunk4790 they mention Jessica being pregnant in part 1 so I feel like Alia will be in part 2

doomed by her mother 😢

It’s AAh-lia, not ALi-Yah. 1 movie, two series and still the mispronunciation?

@nerissa9615

2 ай бұрын

Yep. And I study the shit out the pronunciation because i named my kid after this character 😆

Dang yall called it

...Anya Taylor Joy it is....she's perfect and she looks like a beautiful bene gesserit witch...

Dont you see wgats going on? How I lead for real? How I proceed? How I win. Everybpdy have so much to win. Think. In silence. "Do I trust him?"

Mostly good video. Paul is not the "Savior" of the Fremen people though. That's a serious lack of understanding the entire point of the books.

@dustyblanco1546

Жыл бұрын

The Fremen might say otherwise lol

@dr.sergeykutzofykock9720

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Paul (and especially Leto II later on) is ment to be a cautionary warning of charismatic leaders that have too much power

@Rye_Toast

2 ай бұрын

@@dustyblanco1546 ...at first.

sonic weapons were in the movie... no the book... but ok.

As a crack baby, I see this story as an absolute win.

As an abomination she knows how to nipple-cripple, how can you not like that? 😂

@tgiacin435

Жыл бұрын

I’ll have to watch out for that bit when I reread children

@eldritchmorgasm4018

Жыл бұрын

@@tgiacin435 Well, she at least did it in the 80s movie, don't remember if it's in the book(s) like that

@tgiacin435

Жыл бұрын

@@eldritchmorgasm4018 oh yeah, that bit

I don't remember reading anything about Count Fenrings daughter in the books. Where did that come from?

@Shan_Dalamani

9 ай бұрын

He never had a daughter. Margot Fenring had a daughter in the nuDune books, presumably fathered by Feyd-Rautha.

@koko40800

8 ай бұрын

@@Shan_Dalamani That's right...Count Fenring was a genetic eunuch....His wife Margot told the Count she needed to get Feyd's bloodlines for the BG breeding program...but she also probably wanted a working D

@OwenBroadhurst

6 ай бұрын

It came from Brian's ill advised pursuit of fanfic novels. People really need to stop viewing that crap as canon

People should keep their children far away from Hollywood.

I have never understood why Alia heard her male relatives. Bene Gesserit only have female memories. How did she get those male memories?

@noe842

5 күн бұрын

She is the same as Paul or letho II

@kristinestout1170

5 күн бұрын

@noe842 No, she doesn't have Paul's DNA. She is his sister, not his child. And she was born before Paul drank the water of life. She drank the water through Jessica's pregnancy, but that gave her Bene Gesserit powers, not Kwisatz Haderach powers.

@noe842

5 күн бұрын

@@kristinestout1170 no shes the same, but she was not prepared not supported, nobody knew how to deal with a preborn, in capacity she could do as much as Paul (having also access to both male and female ancestors)…even more things actually, but unlike him she could not control the voices…

@noe842

5 күн бұрын

@@kristinestout1170 read the books never said she was Paul’s daughter, you know the reason why the twins (children of Paul) didn’t turn out like Alia was because they had Chani as a protective figure in all those ancestors, they didn’t go crazy, Alia was hated by the BG and the only voice who seemed to « care » (well he manipulated her) was the baron, her grandpa, therefore she listened to him…

Should do the fifth element.

@chayse1225

Жыл бұрын

Lmao I rewatched that recently it was really fun and Chris Tucker still has me dead 😂😂😂😂

This is the same history as behind the dune porn game

If I remember right she turns into a dictator

Its Aliah not Alia

@paulinemegson8519

2 ай бұрын

Please try reading

You speak bout memory like 50 times, one thought about whole video. What for? To fill the pauses?

Confirmed. 3

People don’t have psychic powers in the Duniverse. Prescience is not supernatural or psionic. It’s just being super smart.

@johnkonig865

Жыл бұрын

Don't the bene gesserit have access to the memories of their ancestors? That sounds like supernatural magic bullshit to me.

@kalebproductions9316

Жыл бұрын

@@johnkonig865 *shrug* That's what Quinn from Quinn's Ideas said in his famously detailed videos about Dune. I have read the first three books and seen all the media: movies, mini-series, the Jodorawski documentary. Many things in our own real world are unexplained. This is just an example of the same thing in fiction. How do the BG women choose the gender of their children? Who knows?

@johnkonig865

Жыл бұрын

@@kalebproductions9316 Sure, mate.

@sigma80

11 ай бұрын

Try reading ALL SIX BOOKS. A lot about the Bene Gesserit is explained in them. I know the story after three is less thrilling and more complex. A lot of people don't like having all their sacred "cows" gored by what Herbert says. Nothing in those books, about politics, religion, power, the natural tendencies of people and societies and government is wrong. Everything he says is true, and most people despise being "unmasked" as the Bene Gesserit do. In the end, Herbert points out the many flaws of the Bene Gesserit. His son and another famous writer's sons wrote the intended sequels to "Chapterhouse Dune" so you see where Frank wanted to go. The writing is not at Frank's level but you get to see how it is supposed to end. The son (Brian) and Poul Anderson's son wrote a huge body of preequals to the Dune books. A book about the Atreides tells how Paul's grandmother give Baron Harkonan that horrible disease he has. He is supposed to breed with her (Voluntarily) but he gives her a toxin that totally paralyzes her, then rapes her. Jessica is a result of that rape, but Reverend Mother Mohiem gave him a "Gift that keeps on Giving" as punishment for the unnecessary rape. The memories of the female side of a Reverend Mother are a result of surviving the "Spice Agony". It's implied at a few points a Reverend Mother type transformation might be possible without Melange, but never explained in any detail. The Bene Gesserit are not "Magic" and everything is explained in the books. Supposedly his son has book of ALL the Canon and background of the "Dune" universe, and it is all explained by (Some fictional of course.) science. Well outside Paul. His prescience is never fully understood, even by him.

@Shan_Dalamani

9 ай бұрын

@@sigma80 Where did you GET all this bullshit? 1. Frank Herbert never intended Dune 7 to be about cartoon robots. 2. Where do you get the ridiculous notion that Kevin J. Anderson is the son of Poul Anderson? Poul Anderson had only one child - a daughter, named Astrid. Astrid Anderson married Greg Bear, who also wrote science fiction. 3. Mohiam never gave the Baron anything. Mohiam is NOT Jessica's mother, and the Baron's physical traits are clearly explained in Dune. The Baron allowed himself to become too large to move without suspensors partly because he saw no reason not to indulge himself, and partly because he knew others found it offensive - and he enjoyed offending people. 4. Mohiam was not raped.

Part 2 was so good go see it i highly recommend

While an interesting video you mispronounce a number of the names wrong including Alia and Leto as well a few others

@gregorymiller8149

10 ай бұрын

thank you

@koko40800

8 ай бұрын

Do the pronunciations of the names really matter tho?

@kismet32

8 ай бұрын

@koko40800 to me as a fan of both the books and the movies yes it matters it makes the video very hard to watch because every time it gets mispronounced it makes you think of that instead of what he was trying to tell the audience about

Minha estrategia.

We don't talk about Paul's sister

Watching this I realize maybe it wasn't just streamlining the plot and timeline down, but now I realize maybe it's to skip the typical overreacted response of the media to a toddler assassinating her grandfather, yes it's a 60s book & already an 84 movie and a 00s TV show, but we all know how the media has dementia and amnesia so that everything that happens is the first time it's ever happened to be as narcissistic as humanly possible in all things.

I have them all!😊😊😊😊

Voxe reescrevera esse texyo e fara cpm que seus coleguinhas sigam minha orientacoes Voces sao pessoas miito poderosas. Muito ricas. Tem muito a perder. Nao ha nenhuma possibilidade de ela ser nwgociada. Nenhuma. Seus politicos escrevendo com inteligencia é tao INSANO que vcs deveriam se preocipar. Eu sei que nao é a A.I. Obrigado.

Too bad that young Alia was completely omited from Dune part 1 but Anna Taylor Joy was cast as the older Alia

Jessica left a galactic empire to a sixteen year old?!

@Shan_Dalamani

9 ай бұрын

Strictly speaking, Paul did.

@ismata3274

9 ай бұрын

@@Shan_Dalamani Yes. Of course, Paul did the action part of the deed, yes. Like a dad/older brother who left home(the teenager and his newborn twins) when his side chick which he loved died at childbirth. To the woman, his legal wife, who he repeatedly told he hated, and not even touched tenderly once, and who drugged his side chick so she couldn't bear children too. Yes left his babies and a teenager sister (who all of them had much nonstandard minds) to a known drugger and a hated person by himself. What would a younger side of the grandmother hood certainly healthy and capable grandmother do in this condition? Leave the kids to such a stepmom? And leave the teenager to rule an Empire, hope the best that said stepmother would do her best with best intentions to help the teenager? And so what! if said stepmom didn't do the usual but did above and beyond for the grandkids? She had to save said grandkids from said teenager! Meanwhile, Jessica the mother, the grandmother, and a bene gesserit, aaand a reverend mother, aaaand a sayyadina aaaaand holy mother of fremen, aaaaaaaaaaaand more importantly a Queen mother! of an Empire! with a preborn! which she herself bore on the steering wheel of!; certainly did the "Inaction" part of said deed. Paul had sort of kind of a reason(let's say meh, why not). Yes yes of course he was being a tiny bit cowardly by not accepting the golden path.(would you accept becoming a worm for four thousand years?) Jessica s reason? Oh she had bad memories on dune. Everyone has bad memories in the empire now! Sorry only the ones who aren't killed by Paul's troops, my bad. And, so does Alia too?! And she is a lone preborn now. Shouldering an Empire! It's so unbecoming of a reverend mother if not all other titles she yes admittedly deservingly owns! (well, being a mother to Alia is a bit suspect but hey, she didn't kill her the moment she realised Alia was preborn so not as bad as it could be as a bene gesserit) Fear is the mind killer! Did you forget?! As a reverend mother?!

@koko40800

8 ай бұрын

Jessica ran back to Caladan...perhaps (if she had any conscience at all) wracked with regret over what she had wrought, in order to be a powerful and revered figure...her mad daughter Alia and the bloody Jihad

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i think anya taylor could play the sht out of alia... she is so alia to me

Nao. Voces nao vao ferir nonguem. As cobsequencias serao catastroficas e seu impwrio ruirá.

Taylor-Joy pretty please

Girl, Interrupted

I kbiw. But I am the Devil. Are you sure you want to proceed in mistakes?

‘Most tragic character’…. I’ll take anything other than morphing into a giant sandworm.

Who would we like to see cast as Alia Atreides? ~ELMO~.....In a dress, wig n' make-up perhaps? The eternally present accusatory telepathic voices of his Sesame-Street compadre's torturing him/her day n' night, until she makes as alliance with both Oscar The Grouch & ANIMAL the drummer to keep the monsters @ bay!...;)

@Shan_Dalamani

9 ай бұрын

The Elmo version of the gom jabbar scene was hilarious. Elmo asked the question I've been asking: "Why are you wearing a blanket on your face?" In the Lynch movie, the Bene Gesserit are bald. In the miniseries, they wear funny hats. In the Villeneuve movie they wear doilies on their heads. Will any version ever be made where they don't look completely ridiculous?

@creightonleerose582

9 ай бұрын

@@Shan_Dalamani Oh man! It IS pretty hilarious eh? I dig the part where Elmo gets flattened by the fire truck...HA! One thing about this 'ol planet & its human inhabitants: We've surely got an OVER-assortment of absolutely GOOFY-ASS hats n' headgear! Take care...

Alia not Aaliyah

Nearly three minutes of repeating and beating around the bush. One minute would've been better or is this Ai made?

I think Alia could have been developed into an amazing character thru out. She def. Appeared to be shunned off..... waste.

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I read all of the books years ago and the new Dune was a big disappointment. To me, it didn't seem like whoever made the movie read the books at all, maybe he just skimmed through the parts that were in the first Dune movie made in 1984. The first Dune was far better than the new one, which is a huge shame considering that in 1984 CG was in its infancy and there is so much that could have been done in the new movie with that. Jessica was a huge disappointment in the new movie in every way. Her acting, her look. Half the time you can't understand or her what she is even saying. And the scenes with her leave out so much. For instance, you never at any time in the new movie get a clear understanding of how Jessica disobeyed the Bene Gesserit to give Leto a son because of her deep love for him. That is never even mentioned in the new movie, nor is it shown that the Bene Gesserit were not even supposed to fall in love, they are placed in their positions to have political control and advantage. Not even a clue of that in the new movie. Also, the scene where Duke Leto dies, Jessica puts her head down on her knees, Paul looks at the Duke's ring, there is no clear indication that they 'knew' that the Duke had died. Worthless scene and lame portrayal of the what was supposed to have been what happened. They may have well have skipped that scene in the new remake altogether for as worthless of a portrayal of the book as it was. Another scene in which the first movie was better. Jessica cried out in the book and in the first movie and there was a clear reaction from Paul also in the first movie that let the viewers know beyond any doubt that both Paul and Jessica had sensed Leto's death. The scene was a nothing burger in the new movie version. Unless you had read the books, there was nothing in the new movie that would have let you know what was going on in new movie's scene, you would have not been able to tell that they were aware that Leto had just died. Also, the scene where the Harkonnens were taking Paul and Jessica into the dessert to kill them, that scene in the new movie was a big let down compared to the first movie and the books. There was no part in the new movie where Jessica says in the voice "There is no need to fight over me" That part was done very well in the first movie and left out completely in the new movie. The entire new movie was a big let down for me. I'd been waiting for decades for a remake of Dune what a disappointment it was. Alia is perhaps my favorite character. If I remember right, the emphasis is on the first A of her name like A' lia rather than on the second syllable A li' a like in how the beautiful and talented late R and B singer's name was pronounced. So, another let down right from the start. I have no doubt that the new movie will also screw up Alia's character as whoever made this last movie screwed up so much else of the new movie remake. I'm hoping that he will have at least read the books by the time the second movie comes out, but I doubt that he will trouble himself to do that. And btw, the Baron Harkonnen was not Alia's grandfather as this review states. I don't understand where they get that from. At least it did not come from the books, idk if it was warped into that in the later series or somewhere else. The Baron killed Alia's father, Duke Leto, so Alia got revenge for that. The Harkonnen's were not related to House Atreides at all and in fact, they lived on different planets and were enemies. At least it is written that way in the books.

@Shan_Dalamani

9 ай бұрын

Actually, Baron Harkonnen was Alia's grandfather. Jessica was his daughter, by a Bene Gesserit named Tanidia Nerus. This is clearly stated in discussions in Dune and Children of Dune. Mohiam was NOT Jessica's mother.

I wonder who they'll cast for her if they ever decide to adapt Dune to film...btw, over half the video content is complete Bullshit.

Explique o que eu fiz gj.

So much waffle and repeating.

Witchcraft across the universe! Ewww

You paint Jessica as this sort of irresponsible parent that was motivated by power and that's completely wrong. Jessica was motivated by survival and wanting the best for her children just like Leto but also made bad decisions just as anyone does. I think Frank was a master in capturing human motivation and complexity. There's so much nuance and depth to the characters that this video doesn't even acknowledge. Really bad take I'm sorry

Oh, FFS. Learn to pronounce the characters' names correctly, and I'll watch your videos. At this point - less than 2 minutes into it, I can only conclude that since you can't even read a name correctly, what else will be wrong with this?

Too bad you had to use footage from all these mediocre and even laughable versions to discuss Alia. Wait until 3/1. We will all see the truth.

Hehe, I cant what, queer?

Even the most powerful are vulnerable and thirsty of love ..:')🩷

Tuning out because you said she uses magic, how tf you making a Dune video without ever seeing Dune clearly. Bene Geserist aren't witches

I am going be That Guy: At first, I was delighted to explore a new perspective of Alia. Then...Bene Gesserit SPELLS and MAGIC? Bloody hell. Did you read the books??? Any of his original series?? @bufboston1 is absolutely correct. Consistently referring to the Bene Gesserit as witches is pejorative, completely. In addition, @kimberlyprice3030 is also correct. You consistently mispronounce names, which leads me to believe you haven't read a jot of Herbert's original series. @bryanmalone1496 is also correct: Paul Atredies was never a 'savior' of the Fremen. For the love of all that is holy and unholy, read the damn books! An absolute travesty of an analysis.

I love that kid!!!!