So, do you see this escalating any further? If not, what happens next? Should we expect a long period of frozen relations, or does this perhaps open up the possibility of some sort of peace process. As ever, thoughts and comments below. (And please, please keep it civil and polite. I know it is an emotional issue, but let’s discuss this.)

@anirudhparthasarathy3387

2 жыл бұрын

In one of the articles that I had read, it suggested that the OIC, Arab League and Saudi Arabia is trying to mediate and reduce the tension. If it goes towards a conflict, I guess EU also has to be involved as Morocco is a country with which there is a direct land border and a conflict here is going to spill over with EU having greater consequences than most states in the Arab league.

@brayan7952

2 жыл бұрын

My grandfather is a historian, he told me that Algeria has been trying to divide Morocco and assess the Sahara for 45 years before the Spanish and French conquest of the Sahara, Morocco's anger was already ruled by the Moroccan sultan.

@3aaaaacharif698

2 жыл бұрын

@@brayan7952 ure grandfather didn't told you about slave's in Morocco?

@tmk7301

2 жыл бұрын

@@brayan7952 sadly, grandpa's stories don't count for much in international law.

@cocothefly

2 жыл бұрын

As an Algerian, I really hope that this would go a bit further with the expulsion of moroccan nationals from Algeria. Algeria already announced today that it will not re-conduct the gaz pipeline contract which is a good step. If morocco continues to be hostile, I believe that Algeria should then start a war and crush this tiny entity.

I never was aware their relationship was getting worse I assumed it was just staying bad but stagnant. Thank you so much for this James

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Yes, it has been steadily deteriorating, but this week’s announcement was quite a dramatic step - although Morocco did say that it was expecting it. The question is where all this goes from here. This is pretty much rock bottom diplomatically and politically, so does it improve, stay frozen for ages, or lead to a more dangerous situation. Definitely one to watch!

@zesciarizo362

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay Algeria is a military regime, antisemit pro Iranian, and you are supporting it

@frogGames

2 жыл бұрын

@@zesciarizo362 algeria is not pro iranian, in fact algeria cut ties with iran in the 90's for supporting terrorist groups in algeria, algerian iranian relationship right now is just political. And can be used sometimes to gain leverage over israel and that's about it.

@onlyahuman493

2 жыл бұрын

@Khaled The polisario were trained by the Iranian revolutionary guards and Hezbollah IN YOUR COUNTRY both are terrorist organizations and that's the reason why Morocco cut off its diplomatic relations with Iran

@hadtrio6629

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay you should fix Morocco's map or at least show the situation on the ground we control 80% of our Sahara

25 countries now have opened Consulates in the Moroccan Sahara. There will be more to come. 🇲🇦

@mikebarton

2 жыл бұрын

Let's take Gambia's contribution as an example. Morocco built it a new Foreign Ministry building in Banjul in exchange for opening the consulate. Several of the consulates are empty with Rabat paying the rents. All quite odd.

@abdulnouar2187

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikebarton where is your evidence

@WalidSadak

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikebarton Morocco built the New york trade center For the USA I assume?????

@WalidSadak

2 жыл бұрын

@@Constantine895 what parallel universe you people are living in??

@bfb9141

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikebarton Oh so you were there visiting our lovely Moroccan southern Sahara (we also have one more towards the east). I hope you enjoyed. However, next time don't go peeping through keyholes in our consulates and expose us... That's just mean!

The problem of cutting diplomatic relations is that after its done, its really difficult to start it again. That shows that relations will further deteriorized but I think serious arm conflict will not happend.

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I agree. That is exactly the danger. It doesn't leave a lot of room for any other action. But I also think the two countries do want to avoid conflict.

@Travis015

2 жыл бұрын

No it won't happen despite our government not seeing eye to eye with each other on many things the algerien people and Moroccan people got along very well we are almost like brothers our people won't stand to see any armed conflict what so ever .

@nourddinbelyamani9585

2 жыл бұрын

@@Travis015 we are brothers🇩🇿🇲🇦

@Travis015

2 жыл бұрын

@@nourddinbelyamani9585 of course we are Brothers , Don't fall for the social media bullshit 🇲🇦🇩🇿

@tommyodonovan3883

2 жыл бұрын

Historically cutting Diplomatic Relation was a prelude to war.

Correction: The Berber are not minority in both countries.

@M.Ghilas

2 жыл бұрын

he said berber speaking not race as genetics says 99% of north Africa are berbers but linguistically the darija speakers are the majority.

Thank you for your objectivity and clarity as always, and for shedding light in otherwise very polarized and emotional conversations. Very helpful and informative !

very interesting, This is definitely 1 of the topics that were barely covered in the press and hence were very easy to miss! Thank you for us informed

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, Brian. Always really appreciated! Yes, it didn’t get a lot of international coverage - at least in the Anglophone media. I think it was covered a lot more widely in the French media. But it is obviously a worrying situation.

@briancops3798

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay It certainly is worrying but the possible advantages for Algeria seem to be marginal and Morrocco is, as you said, winning the diplomatic game. I wonder therefore if this is nothing more than an action to maintain an image. The harsh rhetoric is concerning but the lack of possible gains seem to tell me that armed conflict between these 2 countries is very unlikely

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

@@briancops3798 Yes, that would be my sense as well. The trouble is that this is the final diplomatic step. If pressure continues to grow on Algeria internally, I just worry that there’s always the danger that it could do what countries the world over have done in such situations: fall back on a military adventure!

@briancops3798

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay I do completely agree with you. Let us hope that Algeria will not try to invade or attack Morocco in any way.

@lovefreedom7642

2 жыл бұрын

@hakimho ziyechini what a stupid comment…Algerians and Moroccans are brothers and used to be one same one country callers numedia…..people are brothers, governments are stupid and people are always victims.

Completely missed this escalation in the news. Thanks for covering it James and as usual with such high quality and detail :)

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! It didn’t get much international coverage - at least in the English-language media. Obviously the main focus is still very much on Afghanistan. But this is obviously a cause for concern.

Yay! I've been waiting for someone to do a deep dive into this topic.

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much. I hope it was Ok. It’s one of those unfolding situations where a lot is obviously firmly in the realm of speculation. But it’s good to try to take a look at such situations and map out some possible directions it might go and why.

@adanenardine684

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay thank you 🌹

The 2 countries just bark at each other and never bite. Algerias military is somewhat stronger but as you said, Morocco’s diplomacy is very strong and feels vert comfortable with allies like the UK, US and Israel.

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Yes, that pretty much sums it up! Although it is worth noting that the U.K. doesn’t formally recognise its claim to Western Sahara and stands by the UN-led process - at least for the meanwhile. France is interesting on this. It also stands by the UN process, but seems to be willing to accept Morocco’s control under the right conditions.

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

For some reason I saw a notification about your message concerning the map. But I couldn’t open it. Maybe it was deleted. (KZread does this sometimes.) But as far as I know BBC doesn’t include Western Sahara within maps of Morocco. Can you put the title of the article in a reply, rather than a link. I can Google it.

@papajoe922

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay BBC MOROCCO PROFILE

@HDsKillzProductionS

2 жыл бұрын

​@@JamesKerLindsay Even the Biden administration has rolled back its support stating that it should be resolved through the UN. Trump was desperate to leave with a good image, hence why he accepted the deal. His intentions were to display himself as someone that brought peace in the Middle east , forgetting that North Africa isn't the middle east.

@Akwa47

2 жыл бұрын

Just a correction,Only country that has been barking is Algeria

Thank you James...! Great video as always and about a region that I had no idea was in conflict... all the best to you.. g

I look forward to your videos every Friday good work as always!

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

Algeria has been supporting Polisario for 50 years so its normal for morocco to start supporting separatist movements in Algeria there are no independence movements in morocco while Algeria have the mak movement that is recognized internationally and they even have president in exile

@mouradrahal3281

2 жыл бұрын

The Moroccan regime supporting the terrorist organization MAK will lead to the complete destruction of Morocco as a country.

@omineol9897

2 жыл бұрын

@@mouradrahal3281 the only country facing crisis now is Algeria so i don't know Your country have crisis of lack of milk, vegetables,food, no oxegene in the hospital for coronavirus patients, and lately your country had no equipment to control the fire 🔥 so yeha

@mouradrahal3281

2 жыл бұрын

@@omineol9897 You can hardly write English, but let me explain to you. Algerian will stopped all oil and gas contracts with your country. Morocco has 150 Billion debt, Human Development Index 121, worse than Togo, Palestine and Libya. Morocco when it buys gas from far away countries, it won't be able to store it. Are you able to understand all of this with your little "mokh" ? I doubt it. lol

@mouradrahal3281

2 жыл бұрын

@@omineol9897 Morocco for 40 years is begging for opening the border with Algeria. We will never open our borders with the chahatine.

@SunsetNova

2 жыл бұрын

@@mouradrahal3281 keep dreaming. Algeria will have another civil war soon 😉

Thank you very much, James, for the video! It's as if you could read my mind when you release videos on very recent developments that I saw randomly and have zero knowledge about. Super helpful and informative. 😁

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much. It was quite a lot to pull this one together in such a short space of time. But I hope it is useful.

@ariefferdaus31

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay It is very useful. I couldn't thank you enough. Your videos have helped me and my friends a lot in university. Keep on the amazing work!

Thank you Mr james for this informative video! Sahra Maghribia 💪🙏

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@karimelkarimi985

2 жыл бұрын

Sahara sahrawaiya

Yes Sir! About time 🤩

Well done well said Mr James, I really appreciate objective reports regarding conflicts which is being harder to obtain with the existence of many biased news sources

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much indeed. This didn't get much international attention, at least in the English-language media.

I really enjoy how you also talk about the less reported stories. That's one of the things I very much appreciate about your channel

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! It's actually one of things I really love about doing the channel. It also gives me a chance to learn about many situations that aren't getting much wider attention.

Excellent overview - thank you.

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Very interesting, thank you!

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I hope all is well with you.

More than 26 country have so far opened consulate in the sahara and 40 othe country official recognize the Moroccon souvernity over it but don't have a consulate yet so that's more than 65 country while the polisario movement recognition have went from 86 country in 1889 to less than 28 country today

@joeletaxi7956

2 жыл бұрын

This is far from reality. The Sahawi Democratic Arab Republic is a founding member of African Union that Morocco joined in 2017. The consulates opened in western sahara do not serve population of Malawi or Jordan in western sahara. These are merely offices paid by the Moroccan government as "lobby tools" to support Morocco'stance in breaking international law in the occupation of western sahara

@user-er6vc7hh1l

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeletaxi7956 Western sahara has been Moroccan soil since the almoravid empire. And can you tell me this: how can these sahrawi people claim to be arab and at the same time claim that they are natives to that land? And why dont the sahrawi’s claim soil from Algeria, Mauritania and other neighboring countries? This whole problem began with the colonization of the ‘western sahara’ by Spain, before that it was known to be Moroccan soil under the alaoui-dynasty.

@joeletaxi7956

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-er6vc7hh1l Go and read all the UN resolutions on the matter since 1966 including your own country's treaties signed by your king Hassan 2 that Morocco did not respect. Why did you split the occupation of western sahara with Mauritania in 1975? Why did your country sign the 1991 peace accords drafted by James Baker on behalf of the UN? Why do you not ask the Sahawis if they want to be Moroccan if you believe that they were "Almoravides"? The truth is Morocco is a colonial state but tries to take people for a ride in their justification

@mko1186

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeletaxi7956 it is indeed funny hearing this from someone who I assume comes from a european colonial country. To be frank morocco has had control over a vast area in West north africa It was only when the French came and started taking land and Givin it to French algeria that the country started losing land. Today morocco is removing the marks left by the Spaniards. Moreover morocco agreed to share the sahara as a more peaceful way to end the argument. However after Mauritania lost and surrendered. Morocco knew that creating another country that was and still funded by the algerian government will only to destabilizing the region

@joeletaxi7956

2 жыл бұрын

@@mko1186 Hello, I am not sure that you completely address the issue here. Morocco have between 1966 to 1975 followed the UN resolutions regarding the decolonisation of Western Sahara. There was a change of strategy from Hassan 2 where he decided to take over Western Sahara with Mauritania in 1975 and this was due to internal political instability (2 military coups that almost killed the king). The "marche verte" was aimed at settling the score with the opposition to his power. Algeria quite rightly supported the decolonisation of this territory. There is no claim by Algeria of the western sahara like Mauritania initially and Morocco up to now. Morocco' state is trying to deceive the world but the international law is clear and therefore Algeria and now Spain, Germany and most EU countries (apart France) are in their right to support the complete decolonisation of western sahara.

Accountability is the kryptonite of Algerian statesmen since Algeria independence.

@themuslimalgerian386

2 жыл бұрын

And loyalty and responsibility is the kryptonite of The Moroccan government since the alaouite. Morocco creates problems and when Algeria responds you brand us the bad guys? How absurd

@luciusdomitiusaurelianus5334

2 жыл бұрын

@UC3qzYlR0XPYlNZAXNCMpUkQ stfu you betrayed Hassan II

@Mauri7782

2 жыл бұрын

@Justin Y. free somaliland

@nina-bl7uw

2 жыл бұрын

Et votre etat na rien fait??, arretez de coller toujours la faute aux autres

@HamzaBaqoushi

2 жыл бұрын

@@themuslimalgerian386 Moroccans are loyal and responsible towards Morocco and Morocco only. Algeria is not our burden to bear.

very accurate breakdown, thanks for the research

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much indeed!

As a Moroccan Sahrawi, I want to congratulate you for the thorough research you’ve done. I’m impressed by the way you express yourself, which makes a difficult subject like this one very easy to understand! I’d also like to congratulate you for your impartiality. As a Moroccan, I’m used to the Moroccan storyline, so I’m glad to watch outsiders, impartial opinions. As for the subject itself. I want to call my algerian brothers and sisters to reason. Neither of us have a perfect government. But the Algerian Military Junta is trying to hide all of its economic and deiplomatic failures by blaming Morocco. Tens of countries have had wildfires this summer but only Algeria accused externatl entities, the « zionist entity » and of course Morocco of being the cause. The real cause is Algeria, an Oil rich Country, didn’t have a single Canadair to fight the fires, it even refused Morocco’s proposition to send theirs. Result: at least 90 people died. This conflict is a cold-era conflict. We have to move from this and build our common future by finding a political solution based on compromise. We’re the least integrated region in the world. Come on! We should and have to do better! Thank you again James, looking forward to your next videos!

@DZBjawia

2 жыл бұрын

How is your government is perfect by testing the Covid vaccine on the people. Sahara is never Morocco because it was colonized by Spain as western sahara not Moroccan. And if sahara is Moroccan how they ask Moritania to take half Half. That’s really interesting. The terrorist stack at that time was not made by an Algerian but it was a Moroccan who did it.

@m9ant

2 жыл бұрын

@Luay Alamir Oh no we're awfully sorry for being bad please forgive us for getting involved in your country's internal affairs

@m9ant

2 жыл бұрын

@@DZBjawia Put effort on improving your english, the person said that "None of our governments are perfect"

@cuteerebos2155

2 жыл бұрын

You act like Algerians don't know this. Getting rid of the Military just isn't easy, when 2 of your neighbours have a civil war going on, your borders are hard to protect and your Royal Neighbour to the West still claims Tindouf is his. Algeria does not have the luxury to exclude the Military out of politics. Algerians are trying their hardest to get la puvoir removed and fight corruption and military influence already with limited success. Calling on your Algerian Brothers and Sisters won't do shit, as long as both Governments don't give a shit about their people. Also don't ignore the Morroccan state as well, which has hardly done anything to soothe relations, except pay lip service to opening borders.

@youneskasdi

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah we Algerians know very well of the military rule, it was always like this since our independence nothing new here our military always had the final word in every decision thanks to being in a very vulnerable place to arm conflict throught our history, that doesn't mean a militaristic state is a bad thing that we should oppose, you could argue that Morocco have a dictatorship you still vow to your king monrachy at this age ? are you serious ???, even tho i don't condem the moroccan people for not revolting against thei king since i know it just WORK for them

Interesting video James. Keep up the good work.

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks as always!

I'm Algerian American so whenever I meet a Moroccan here in the US I see them as a brother, such a shame the govts are going down this road.

@son-of-the-moorish-empire

Жыл бұрын

Ur gouvernement and ur people has a brain problem. Go to the hospital

@luongo7886

8 ай бұрын

Mais le Maroc a toujours menacé l'Algérie.

So glad you made this video. I was unaware that diplomatic relations had been cut, but even if I had heard this before I would not have grasped the full context you set out here! I hope that this is just playing to a domestic audience as you mentioned. I can't help but wonder if the Moroccan and Algerian regimes depend on having an adversary on their border to prop up their legitimacy at home!

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Fredo. It is such an interesting story. It’s amazing to see how it has evolved and how central Western Sahara has become so central to it all. But I do think you are right.

@yonniiisan

2 жыл бұрын

I think they both use it to their advantage and this is why we won't see an armed conflict.

@idyllenaive.5461

2 жыл бұрын

No Sir, there is no régime we have a legitimate gov, and moreover Algeria never needs others approval

@FredoRockwell

2 жыл бұрын

@@idyllenaive.5461 Hiya, I couldn't tell by your comment if you are referring to the Algerian or Moroccan regime, but the term "regime" isn't always a negative one. It just means a form of government. So yes, a dictatorial regime is a negative term, but you can also have democratic regimes, aristocratic regimes, or communist regimes.

@idyllenaive.5461

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Sir for your clarification, actually i m Algérian, thé problem is that i m nt English Native speaker, à linguistic interférence may have been occured since RÉGIME in French has a negative ..... Anyway thanks for ur stand

This was interesting topic definitely it doesn't really get many coverage thank you very much.

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. Yes, unfortunately, it hasn't received as much attention as it should, especially in the English-language media. I think that most of the focus is obviously on Afghanistan at the moment. But this is certainly a situation to keep an eye on. Hopefully, it won't escalate. But it is also hard to see tensions easing just at the moment.

I found this video to very well done and informative~ thank you

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. I’m really glad you found it useful.

as a moroccan what a great unbiased explanation thank you

As an algerian we love moroccan people its just all politics

@abdelhakwinston6200

2 жыл бұрын

same here

@historicastafiilyy1588

2 жыл бұрын

Algerians and Moroccans are like Turkish and Azerbaidjani = bascially same people just 1 nation in 2 opposed states. We will always understand each others and get along despite conflicts

@alixalix191

Жыл бұрын

Wrong we don't

@DeprogAxA

Жыл бұрын

@@historicastafiilyy1588 that narrative is hella forced

@historicastafiilyy1588

Жыл бұрын

@@DeprogAxA wdym ?

Been looking 4 a channel with great content . Geo politics and diplomatic relations. Thank you 4 another interesting video.

Good day Sir, it was a great pleasure to discover your channel.Thank you A Moroccan from Texas .

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. And a very warm welcome. I hope that all is well with you. Greetings to the Great State! (I actually have cousins in Texas and I really want to do a video on its independence. I was over there for Independence Day a few years back and loved it.)

@nomprenom7949

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay That’s a wonderful idea. I would love to see a video about the lone star state.(I’m working for a British company based in Houston).cheers and welcome anytime.

Great video, professor. This was informative and unbiased. However, the problem is way deeper and older than what it appears to be. There are so many hidden truths and past events that still influence this conflict, including external relations with the world's superpowers.

@MBro3

Жыл бұрын

Yes I agree. especially French and Spanish influences in the region. They couldn't get what they wanted from the countries resources and couldn't setup thier economic trojan horse and trapes like the other neighbors in africa icluding the the 15 countries that are still forced to use the French mandated currency smh they never tell the full story

Good evening James and thank you for this video. There is something new in the Western Sahara conflict : Today, Antonio Guterres has nominated Alexander Ivanko as the new Chief of the MINURSO (United Nations Mission for the Referendum in Western Sahara). What is you opinion on this ? Thanks in advance.

@abdelhadiben5654

2 жыл бұрын

@@Isabelle_LaBelle Bla Bla Bla

@abdelhadiben5654

2 жыл бұрын

@@Isabelle_LaBelle ok arab are not african ! What is the problem ?! We are humains being and we have to respect the others . Why u dont speak about american and europeeans colonialism who killed a millions of peoples in the world , and why all this discrimination for the arab peoples ?! If U dont know history dont talk (Bla Bla Bla) about it

@amineamraoui4397

2 жыл бұрын

@@Isabelle_LaBelle Nice dreams! Tell me more please 😂👍

@samcraft3

2 жыл бұрын

@@Isabelle_LaBelle No, you're a minority, even in Morocco, those who speak Berber feel Arab and also learn Arabic. (I live in souss massa btw, a region with a big berber minority) Keep dreaming, the Berbers are slowly dying and being replaced by Arabs since the 19th century, when the majority of the population began to speak Moroccan Arabic instead of the many Berber dialects, stop feeling superior when you've done nothing influential since the Riff war, and even not being born when the Berbers had some influence over the country.

Thanks so much for making the the time to make this video. its really hard now days to get information about morocco and you do great job HOPE YOU DO MORE VIDEOS TALKING ABOUT THIS SITUATION IN FUTURE 🇲🇦

Learned new things.. Thank you... From Venkat

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Really glad to hear it was useful.

Every time I visit this channel, I leave considerably smarter than I came

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! To be honest, I love making these videos as I always feel smarter than when I started. :-) It gives me a great chance to look into so many interesting issues that so rarely get wider international coverage. I'm just really glad other people find them interesting. I hope all is well with you. Warmest regards!

Another take. Imagine having to put up with either the 'makhzen' or 'le pouvoir'. I hope that the peoples of Algeria and Morocco can ignore the ridiculous nationalism imbued posturing of their respective governments.

@barbarossapirate3000

2 жыл бұрын

AS an Algerian citizen I totally agree to that.

Brilliant analysis

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Man I just got a notification from comments here and then I checked ur channel and damn you deserve a lot of subscribes and supporters I love you and will always support u

As a Moroccan and a US soldier, I don't see this escalating. Both administrations need to compromise on understandment. Furthermore, even as a Moroccan I wasn't aware of the bad hostilities. Usually Moroccans and Algierians get along on a social level.

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I think on balance that you are absolutely right. I don’t think anyone wants to see this escalate. But as a serviceman you’ll know better than most how easy it is for small incidents to escalate when political tensions are high. I think this is the real worry. And I agree that at an interpersonal level people from the two countries do appear to get on rather well!

@mauricebeyjr611

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay Indeed, I've seen in past 2 years that a lot of the incidents I've been involved in. Especially when I was stationed in South Korea, were lead miniscule misunderstandings. Furthermore, it would be in the best interest that King Muhammad IV and the Algiers to not escalate.

@mauricebeyjr611

2 жыл бұрын

@hakimho ziyechini Well I for one, do get along with my Algerian brothers.

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks again. Korea must have been an incredible experience. And there’s absolutely no room for error there! My first job out of university was working on a project on improving Greek-Turkish relations - another conflict where things can get very tense. I remember the former commander of the Turkish Navy explaining to us just how easy it is for incidents to occur and spiral out of control. It’s actually really scary. Even more so when you are dealing with conscript armies. A trained and experienced soldier is one thing. An adolescent just out of school with a few weeks of boot camp is another!

@mauricebeyjr611

2 жыл бұрын

@hakimho ziyechini No still brother are brothern

Liked and Subbed Very good journalism, just the facts none of the *"Birdfeed"*

Why you westerners do not mention to whom the Sahara belonged before the Spanish colonization?

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Who did it belong to?

@zeronixata4545

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay to Morocco and that's proven clearly but it's seems like you are against morocco

@mohamedallali7915

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay it belonged to Morocco dear fellow,from the rule of sultan Moulay Ismail ,one of king Mohamed the sixth grandfathers and when the spanish came they didn't find and empty land,they found people who defined themselves as mgharba(Moroccans)

@mohamedallali7915

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay read history please and next time do not speak nonsense,also I advice you to learn Arabic bc it will help you to search for more facts

@mohamedallali7915

2 жыл бұрын

@@krissiebelhamri1459 hassaniya is just a dialect and similar to darija (I hope you know that darija knows a huge diversity in terms of vocabulary)

Thank you for taking up this subject; it was easy to miss what was happening on this side with international news being overwhelmed by the situation in Afghanistan. After the post you had made, I read three articles related to the subject; the idea of Morocco hinting at the self determination of a Berber community in Algeria is very curious considering Morocco has a larger population of Berbers. So, if such a movement is encouraged in Algeria, would it not encourage the same in Morocco as well?

@Muhamedim

2 жыл бұрын

You're right, the MAC organisation has many flaws inccluding to the other berber communities in Algeria, but the Rif movements is more founded since there was an independant state ( from the former spanish protectorate ) and the socio economic situation in the north is worrying ( see what happened to the spanish exclaves). But on the other hand, Algeria has more freedom of speech so such movements have more impact on people however in the Kingdom, people are afraid to show their opinion, be it unharmful to the state, like the teachers manifestation deeply oppressed. Cheers,

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Anirudh. Great point. You’re right. I actually want to look into this in more detail in future videos. But I think it was merely quick point scoring by Morocco. Of course, Algeria is completely right to point out that they are not the same issue. WS is considered to be a question of legitimate colonial self-determination whereas Kabylia would be regarded as a more typical secession dispute. Overall, it is a very interesting situation, and potentially very worrying given the size of their militaries. Fortunately, there’s no immediate sign of escalation, but the problem is that, as we both know, these things can get out of hand easily.

@zesciarizo362

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay learn something from morocco and you need to hear it again to memorize it well, Sahara is a red line and full war will start anytime if there is a threat on this subject. Green march in 2021 will be a multi million one.

@nak1509

2 жыл бұрын

@@Muhamedim Do you clowns even believe yourself? “Algeria has more freedom of speech” more like Algeria is a failing country with mentally ill generals running the country. The reason why the Berber movement in Morocco isn’t as bad as in Algeria is because the situation is actually getting better and not worse like in Algeria. The rif region compared to the entire of Algeria is 10 years ahead

@Muhamedim

2 жыл бұрын

​@@nak1509 The rif movement of 2016 was extremely oppressed, a after the Influx of thousands of Morrocans in the spanish exclaves, the European media agreed that the economic situation of the north of Morocco is the cause of such immigration. I use objective metrics to comapare countries like the HDI, Algeria has a better one, but it's odd that morocco doesn't provide the inequality-adjusted human development index. Aside those affected by wars like syria and afghanistan, a pattern emerges: Countries like Botswana, Saudi Aabia, Turkmesistan all don't provide the inequality adjsuted HDI because they have a very high degree of inequality.

Dear James, could you make a video about the Democratic Autonomous Administration (DAA) in northeast Syria?

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Great suggestion. This is on my ever growing list of situations to cover.

Very useful news. Really independent commentary. 👌 Better than BBC News.

Brilliant summary! You covered everything from Polisario to Berbers, and Israel to wildfires. You have made a complex topic really simple to understand. Kudos! Looking forward for more. I'd love to hear your take on Israel-Iran tensions, especially since Raisi is the new President and in light of Bennett's visit to Washington. Do you think a nuclear deal is possible? How would Israel be dealing with the new powers in Tehran? and Is an escalation in their covert conflict very likely?

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I really appreciate it - especially coming from another International Relations channel. I certainly hope to do something on Israel-Iran. It is such an interesting and important (non-)relationship. And, of course, the threat of military action of some sort is incredibly worrying.

hello James what do you think about the movement of mak ( Movement for the self-determination of Kabylie ) especially after the huge growth of sentiments among there population ?

@mohamedel-bouayadi8469

2 жыл бұрын

he can't answer u ..he. takes money from Algerian army

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Did you actually take a moment to watch this video? I pretty much blamed the current escalation of tensions on Algeria. Seriously, if you are going to make comments, try to be constructive.

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I really want to come back to this. It is a topic I have been meaning to cover for ages. Clearly, it is becoming a more serious factor.

@asirnewazkhan4172

2 жыл бұрын

@@mohamedel-bouayadi8469 oh look a salty Moroccan. I'd tell you to wash the sand outta yer eyes but, I doubt it would get the s*!t outta yer brains.

@asirnewazkhan4172

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay my sincerest apologies for the language sir.

Thank you, very interesting. I think, it's one of the least known conflicts in the world. I understand where the US and Israel stands, as well as some African countries, in their preference to Morocco, but can you say, what the position of the EU members? Besides Spain, which I can guess.

@user-kg7zr3yl3n

2 жыл бұрын

all of the eu is neutral, but spain leans with algeria

@DeprogAxA

Жыл бұрын

Portugal, Turkey, Germany and Spain are all now pro morocco(recent news), france keeps being neutral.

I have spent a great deal of time in Morocco and have a strong affinity for the people and nation. My state, Utah, has an official partnership with Morocco and we do all types of training at multiple levels with the Kingdom. I have also worked a lot with the Moroccan military, and it is getting better and better. Morocco has a good relationship with the USA, has quite a bit of good military equipment, including a new Brigade of M1A1 tanks, Spec Ops trained by the US, F-16s and a lot of experience fighting against separatists in the South. The US also recognized Moroccan sovereignty over Western Sahara, so, in any conflict between Algeria and Morocco, the latter is likely to do well. The Israeli connection is also probable to be significant, as you intimate. Morocco is up and coming across the board. It has a real economy, not one just built on oil and has a vibrant tourist industry as well, something like 12 million last year, mostly from Europe. Agriculture is also a strong element in the Moroccan economy. In the long term, all things remaining equal, Morocco will outpace Algeria on all fronts. Morocco is also an extremely tolerant Muslim nation, one of the few in the world. Which is also appealing. I doubt a war is in the offing. It would not be in the interests of either nation.

@AdamAzzr

Жыл бұрын

Since the 60s, algeria is pro east (soviet union and now russia) Morocco is a right wing Kingdom pro west country. Algeria is a new country created by France while Morocco is a nation state. It's impossible to make peace, especially the fact that algeria (and lybia of Gaddafi in that time) created polisario to get some atlantic ocean. 90% of Morocco's military équipement is from the US+ israeli drones and some high tech. While algeria's weapons is from Russia. Morocco wants France to recognize Morocco's sovereignty on the Sahara, because germany and spain recognized it too, and also to end this conflict in the UN by accepting the solution given by morocco which is autonomy. This is why morocco is not interested in any war so far, because everything seems going smoothly. The country that recognize the polisario are Venezuela, Cuba, North korea, Algeria, mexico, iran and russia and other leftist or communist states. What do you think ?

@thomassenbart

Жыл бұрын

@@AdamAzzr Sounds pretty solid to me

@AdamAzzr

Жыл бұрын

@@thomassenbart I have a question, what do you know about the Moroccan army and how modern are they ?

@thomassenbart

Жыл бұрын

@@AdamAzzr I have spent a good deal of time with the Moroccan military and they are improving constantly, have a robust officer corps, under utilize their NCOs like all of Africa, are motivated, very patriotic, have good relationship with the US, which translates into A brigade of M1 tanks, and squadrons of F-16s and other goodies as well as joint training events and Morocco is becoming the hub of military trng. Medical and other higher technical skills for much of Africa. I imagine Morocco is (I have not seen them fight) capable but not at the level of traditional western powers, like France, Britain etc…This could change however, as the kingdom grows in wealth and stability.

@AdamAzzr

Жыл бұрын

@@thomassenbart Yes I know it's on the level of the traditional western power. But are they ready for the terrorism growing in the sahel of mali, chad and Burkina fasso?

Pretty accurate analyzing of the situation between Morocco and Algeria , You almost didn't miss any major part of this conflict , I am a Moroccan and i admit you did a superb job , I like to watch your videos to improve my English as well . Thanks

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. And thank you for the feedback on the videos. That’s really great to hear. I do try to speak clearly and not too fast as I know that many viewers are not native English speakers. (And I know myself how great it is when you are trying to learn another language and people speak clearly.) I also try to provide properly edited captions to help as well.

History didn't start in 20th century, starting the story from the colonial era is disgustingly eurocentric and ignorant. Morocco is older than Spain.

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

You do realise that I explicitly said that I had covered the issue in other videos? I have looked at Western Sahara many times. I wasn’t going to go over all the background again.

@khaleeji23

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay in those videos as well you started from Western colonialism as if there were no civilizations in the entire south Mediterranean until France and Spain invaded

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Because the international Court of Justice, the highest court in the world, examined the issue - in a case brought by Morocco, I should add - and decided that Morocco did not in fact have a historical claim to the territory and that it was for the people of Western Sahara to decide their future.

@khaleeji23

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay the international court said there are links but not enough to establish sovereignty, those are called baiaa oaths that tribes gave to the Sultan, a fair analysis should consider the history of the region centuries before the Castilian marriage. BTW, you never talk about Catalonia's right to self determination.

@user-kg7zr3yl3n

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay what historical claim does algeria have to any of the land it owns today ....?

This might be somewhat of a foolish question, an maybe I'm am naïve, but you said in the video that there was a UN brokered peace agreement put in place all the way back in 1991 "that envisaged an independence referendum". What does that mean exactly? Was a referendum officially part of any deal, and if so (or even if the idea was only agreed on in principle) what has the UN been doing about it in the last 30 years? The problem of WS is a pretty well known one (you only have to look at a map), yet it still unresolved. I really can't understand how the international community, and especially Spain and the Arab League countries, have allowed this to go on for so long. Very sad situation indeed. Great video, especially made in such a short period of time!!

Just when light prices are at their highest point in history here in Spain, Algeria has announced it will be ceasing operations of one of the gas pipes that carry part of their gas supply to us through Morocco, as part of this standoff. Since Spain gets most of its gas supply from Algeria, due to geographic reasons -as oppossed to most of the rest of Europe, which gets it from Russia-, this will undoubtedly lead to even higher electricity prices here, as supply will be greatly reduced -thankfully, there is another pipe connecting Algeria and Spain directly which is seeing its operations increase, but still. So it is very interesting to know what is happening between these two countries, apart from the obvious security concerns a state of confrontation between two neighbouring countries brings to the table for Madrid. Thank you for the video, James. I think it would be very interesting to know more about the Berber peoples of North Africa. The Rif region and its fitting within the Moroccan state could be another topic of interest.

@mouradrahal3281

2 жыл бұрын

Algeria has always been reliable in delivering natural gas to its clients Spain and Italy through pipelines. The crisis with Morocco won't change it. Morocco is creating crises not with Algeria alone, but with Spain and Germany as well.

@omineol9897

2 жыл бұрын

@@mouradrahal3281 Spain have no crisis with morocco morocco brought back its ambassador from Germany and we give solid arguments but we didn't cut diplomatic relations or stuff like that and the relationship is normal but the 2 governments don't talk much that all in the case of Algeria well your country is fucked and people are protesting in every city so it's normal for Algeria to bring the conspiracy theories again and accuses France,Morocco,Israel of there faileurs

@mouradrahal3281

2 жыл бұрын

@@omineol9897 Morocco has no future in North Africa. Algeria is the supreme leader and Morocco is ousted for good. Go ask Israel for Gas and energy. Bye les Mrarka.

@benjibenz3199

2 жыл бұрын

@@mouradrahal3281 the supreme leader but your people are starving…

@dazingarctic7873

2 жыл бұрын

@@mouradrahal3281 least stupid dzyeri

Thanks for the balanced and clear information about this subject...I may add the solution is giving the saharawi people the right to vote for self determination.

@majubsalemkhabed3651

2 жыл бұрын

@@elmo776 that's not true...there is a base of the Spanish lists made 1974 of the whi were living in Western sahara...the real problem is morroco knows very well the result will come for independence...that's why keeps rejecting the celebration of the referendum in Western sahara.

@DaTam-pg6sx

2 жыл бұрын

@@majubsalemkhabed3651 besides what Elmo mentioned it is POLISARIO who suggested adding Sahrawis beyond the Spanish list and both UN and Morocco accepted the idea but it turned out to be a failure. that's why the UN now looking for other solutions other than referendum

@onlyahuman493

2 жыл бұрын

@@majubsalemkhabed3651 If there is any referundrum here it will be in Kabylie .

@yvessaintmichel5269

2 жыл бұрын

A solution has already been in effect…I think the Moroccans played their cards extremely well in this game: 1. Stall for 30 years and build the region’s infrastructure 2. Neutralize Spain and minimize its role in the conflict 3. Get a major power and permanent member of the security council to recognize Morocco’s sovereignty over the Sahara. This last step is especially important because it simply means that if the entire world supported Polisario’s independence, it would still never be admitted to the UN or become a country, ever. I think the Algerians were outmaneuvered and didn’t see this coming at all. The Spaniards were oblivious to the US, Israel Morocco negotiations. I think the frustration is what lead the Algerian parliament to address President Biden in a letter asking for a reversal of the decision which fell on deaf ears. Essentially, all Morocco needs to do now is…nothing.

The area of Morocco is 710,850 km2 👀

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

No. It isn’t. Its claim to Western Sahara isn’t universally recognised.

@Simo-remork

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay it’s recognized by USA, the boss of the world 🇺🇸

@kikebautista2110

2 жыл бұрын

@@Simo-remork The boss that is fleeing from Afganistan in an embarrassing way?

@MrMouzaki

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay it's not about recognition , it's about facts and what exist in the land u are welcome to visit and see for yourself

@riadriado7323

2 жыл бұрын

@@Simo-remork 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤫🤫🤫 Ant's brain 🧠

Hi, James. Huge fan of your videos here. I watched your QNA where you speak about degrees, etc and I've been into international relations for a while now and was thinking about maybe shifting towards it as a career move. However, I am about to turn 26 and haven't completed a degree. How old were you were you first entered the field? I feel like it would take me forever to get onto a degree course, complete a masters and find a job opportunity and it puts me off, so I am searching for a bit of inspiration 🤣 Pardon the life story! Hope all is well and don't worry if you don't get time to respond - I know you're a busy man and shan't hold it against you! 😂 Thanks and all the best

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ben, thanks so much for the message. So glad you like the videos. And it is always great to hear from anyone who would like to study international relations - no matter what age! In fact, when I was doing my MA we had a retired British diplomat on the course who was in his mid-60s. Never too old, as they say. Regarding your question, I think the first question is to ask where you are based. Degree times differ. In the UK, you would be looking at three years undergrad and then one year postgrad. In the United States it is four and two. Another alternative is to look for part-time programs that would allow you to work and study. It would take rather a lot longer, but it is a perfectly good route. Another option - and this is actually the way I did my undergraduate degree - is to look at the London University International Programme or another distance learning programme. Many of these really are excellent now. For example, the University of London program is a full London University degree run out of the London School of Economics, but taught online and through self-study; although in some places local colleges teach it as well. (In the interests of full disclosure, I not only got my degree through the programme, I am now actually an examiner for it. I am actually rather proud of that!) Anyway, here's the link in case you are interested and want to find out more. london.ac.uk/courses/bsc-international-relations

I strongly believe that both Morocco and Algeria are hesitant to start arm conflict between them. Both realize that such a conflict will cost a lot considering they are poor countries

@JamesKerLindsay

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. It is certainly worrying to see how tensions persist between them. But hopefully good sense does prevail.

A kabyle and i wish for us to be not independent i dont want to seperate our people

@chadmkomg5051

2 жыл бұрын

Do most kabyles supports MAK?

@YurtV.2

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadmkomg5051 no alot of kabylie wish to be apart of algeria and algeria being a native north african state and form a revolution with other amazighs

@gordonchild273

Жыл бұрын

@@chadmkomg5051 Yes, they have got their own language and culture

Algeria: wE WiLL cUt aLL ReLAtiOnS wiTh MoRocCo. Morocco be like: *understandable have a nice day* MOROCCO 🇲🇦 does not need a communist military ruled country whatsoever!

@mrM-cr8me

2 жыл бұрын

So whey are crying about it lol 😆 😆

@omineol9897

2 жыл бұрын

@@newdzfor a monarchy that's ranked higher in every democracy index and freedom list than your communist shithole

@redmoor1852

2 жыл бұрын

Bruuh, believe me 😂 I'm laughing my ass off

@redmoor1852

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah you forgot UK BELGIUM SPAIN JAPAN etc.. they're all middle *aged* monarchies, only u are on top of the world.

@mrM-cr8me

2 жыл бұрын

@@redmoor1852 yeah but have democratic government not gay kings do not compare these countries with afracas shit hole

It is of interest to note, to, that Algerias ruling party, the FLN, has, virtually since it’s inception, had a history of strong alignments and alliances with the global, anti-colonial left,…from Jean Paul Sartre to President Nasser, the USSR, the Yemeni Socialist Republic,…Ben Bella was rarely separated from the company of Che Guevara or Fidel Castro,…in stark contrast to the right-wing Moroccan kingdoms unwavering alignment to with the interests of Washington, Paris, and Brussels.

@user-kg7zr3yl3n

11 ай бұрын

morocco was anti colonial, it's just that it was also anti communist because they threatened the monarchy, being anti communist does not mean you serve the west, since you seem to be a foreigner who's actually ideologically driven and not just spewing things out of hate, i suggest you research morocco's role in supporting algerians since 1830, the fellaga group, mandela's speech in morocco, and morocco's role in the palestinian wars, and by the way morocco has been very far from right wing if you're talking about economic policies

African country colonizing another African country is very strange. I am surprised Spain did not give Western Sahara an independence after they left. Can someone explain?

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Here is a video I made on the background to the Western Sahara issue. I explain it all. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qmustMaup6m0gMo.html

@mouadidelhadj6343

2 жыл бұрын

That's because the state of Morocco existed before the colonialism era

Algeria is already in conflict with its self. Morocco has never threatened anyone, only defended its self and that is why it is 1200 year old Kingdom.

I hope one day we would see Maghreb United, From the Atlantic to the Egyptian borders, but sadly we are far from that blinded by our false understanding of nationalism and by relegion

@oussama1811

Жыл бұрын

@@Ezkeil-sn2nh Egypt isn't Maghreb

Listen mate , I am Algerian , and am assuring to you that both countries Algeria & Morocco are weak in a way you can't imagine , they are like children in the middle of adult fight ... Both of them have no authority in their own land and they are both ruled by an external power . Algeria is military regim controlled by an old Soviet strategy known already as china + Russia management in the other side Morocco is western camp ruled by Israeli & U.S lobbies . So like everywhere in the world it's always a west vs east game between two ideologies which beyond the scenes have nothing To do With Algeria and Morocco ..

@raid99

2 жыл бұрын

This is it 😂

You presented the moroccan view in many of the reasons you stated

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Not really. There was just one piece of information: about the role of Algerians accused of attacks in Morocco. Unfortunately, some viewers seem to have fixated on this and blown it out of all proportion - arguing that I am biased. All I would say is go and watch my videos on Western Sahara and see all the people accusing me of being anti-Moroccan.

The Algerians are doing the best to help their Sarahwi brothers the both counties have close thier border for over 25 years

@mrM-cr8me

2 жыл бұрын

@hakimho ziyechini a failed attempt to keep up lol Kabylie part of algeria 🇩🇿 alike the sahara witch is a free nation with it people

@omineol9897

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrM-cr8me just last week thousand of people protest in pairs and other cities for kabylie independence while in western Sahara i v seen nothing beside morocco flags and people living happy

@mrM-cr8me

2 жыл бұрын

@@omineol9897 you put claims all you want but we both know that's bs kabylia is about three states that are in algeria before thier was maroco on the other hands the sahar was never a part of you get it now slave lol

@mouradrahal3281

2 жыл бұрын

@hakimho ziyechini "morocco are doing their best to help their kabyli brothers" Statements such as this will lead to the end of Morocco as a country.

@mouradrahal3281

2 жыл бұрын

@hakimho ziyechini Regime change in Morocco will give birth to a Moroccan Republic. Within hours the Algerian Special Forces will remove Mohamed 6 from his palace in Rabat and replace him with a civilian authority there.

What's really impressed me in your video is how unbiased you were, taking no sides, and discussing the problem from a neutral point. Thanks. A morrocan passed from here🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

@freewal

2 жыл бұрын

You are an ignorant Jalal. Check his video for the Moroccan Sahara. He is supporting the terrorist separatist.

@jalal5773

2 жыл бұрын

@@freewal salam/azul. To call me an ignorant reflects your level before you even say a word. Secondly, the UN doesn't recognize our sahara as ours, it urges for a self determination by voting, but it didn't happen since 1991; the battle now is more diplomatic than by arms so, When morocco (my beloved contry) achieves success in gathering other's countries recognition then we could win the sahara, we're still in the process but hasn't reached yet, even with the America support. Lastly, james explained the problem from a wide side, and presented what he had gathered from available information on the web and UN resolutions. I hope i made it clear.

@freewal

2 жыл бұрын

@@jalal5773 you are what westerner called an useful idio-t. Sorry to tell you. This James Ker Lindsay is the same kind of people who wants to apply western principles on African soil with the international law, which is a pure western creation. Other countries were not allowed to say anything on it. Thanks god the world has change.

Your military informations about both countries was worng , in Global fire power Morocco had 8000 Tanks not 600 and Algeria 7000 you need check that , and Thank for your Amazing Analyze

Could you please correct the “predominantly Arab speaking with significant berber minorities”? It’s actually the other way round. Thank you

Armed conflict between two heavily militarized countries for what ? None of them will dare, too much at stake, except if it resorts to proxy war, algeria can always fund the polisario front and give it better weapons, that could pressure morocco, but morocco will need much more than weaponizing the kabyle people, but somehow algeria isn't doing that so that's a good sign

@user-kg7zr3yl3n

2 жыл бұрын

any future conflict with the polisario morocco will wipe them out, i think you've heard about the last crisis in the border crossing ? well morocco controls more land since that, morocco is kind of busy right now to start a war, you know... being a normal country

Algeria is ruled by its military, and military regimes tend to export their internal troubles. The bushfire incident is a funny example, the regime preformed very badly in response to this tragic disaster, a regime that is so proud of its giant airforce doesn't have a single firefighting plane, also refused Morocco's request to help, this does not go well with the Algerian people unless you're one of the genius generals in charge, just blame Morocco and its new eeeevil ally. To put the recent deterioration of relations in context; look no further than Morocco's gains in the western sahara conflict, and Algeria's current economic situation wich is the most severe in the country's history.

I would like just to point out that the Algerian president publicly stated that Algeria is only second to the USA in almost everything. In addition, he stated that a great nation and country like Algeria is entitled to access to the Atlantic coast, I guess it is a clear indication of the Algerian intention and lunacy.

I hope things will remain peaceful but a lot of wars have been started recently

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Indeed. I think that's the broader worry. We have seen some very disturbing trends in this regard. But even by those standards, this could be particularly destructive if it were to happen. These are two very well armed countries.

When the border is closed between two countries, that says a lot about their relationship and certainly, it is now completely clear as Algeria cut its diplomatic relations or direct contact with Morocco. Personally, I think that communication efforts from both countries should be emphasized and proliferated to clear up any confusion or to prove to one another about any false allegations. But Algeria completely took a 180-degree turn and I don't know what to say. Where will it end if there's no communication? I just hope that no one provokes anyone, otherwise things can go out of hand terribly! :( Love and best wishes for the two countries from Bangladesh and thank you Dr. Ker-Lindsay :)

@yonniiisan

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think that there's a miscommunication, Morocco has been launching a media war for more than a decade on Algeria plus the unfortunate events they hate each other at this point and Algeria didn't even consider the calls for discussions from the different Arab and Islamic states.

After Spanish army left the Moroccan Sahara, with help of the local mercenaries, these same mercenaries, founded and supplied by the Algerian army try to rebel and end the Moroccan control on the Moroccan Sahara and declare themself as an independent state without any legitimacy. After the United States recognized Morocco's Sovereignty over Moroccan Sahara, Algeria saw all her investments and efforts dissipated from which the current hostility towards Morocco. They concocted the Pegasus leak accusation against Morocco, blamed Morocco for the wild fires, even refused the help of the king to lend the canadairs. Algeria always votes against Moroccan any international organization just lately the voted against Morocco in the Arab park enemy for the EU resolution blaming Morocco for the inflicts of immigrants. A neighbor sharing same fate same culture same borders and same challenges why would he insist on dividing a neighbor country? Is he to blame for the incompetencies of the Algerian government ruled my dinosaurs generals? A country rich in oil and gas that fails in providing basic health care, non disruptive water and electricity suppliers, a collapsing economy, a poor living conditions …

You gave an accurate account of the situation except that you forgot to mention that border conflict over Tindouf and Bashar was inherited from colonial France as well as the Saharan dispute, a Spain occupied territory; both areas were clipped away from Morocco a fact which Algeria does not want to admit …

I personally think Moroccans and Algerians like each other genuinely. That being said, if a conflict did arise, Morocco has much more advanced military equipment and ranks 8th world wide in number if tanks which are mostly the American Abrams tanks. The F16V block they have as well as the drones, surface to air missiles and navy boats are better then the Algerian counterpart. We see Russia struggling in Ukraine so it’s unlikely they would Algeria with selling them the SU-57 which Algeria ordered after learning Morocco has upgraded their F16 fighters to the V Block. Citing logistical issues due to the war, Russia said it would be a while. Meanwhile Morocco plans to order 24 of the F-35 Raptor from the US. The F35 is the most advanced fighter jet available. I personally think war won’t happen but we’ve seen in recent times (just 4 months ago) the Moroccan King publicly extending an olive branch to the Algerians but to no avail. Algeria should have a much better economy and country then Morocco due to their natural resource but in fact the opposite is true. As long as Algeria is led by 90 year old generals still living in 1950, the country will never move forward. Imagine your country having the 5 largest reserve of natural gas and you wait in line for milk, oil, fruits, and butane gas to heat water or for the stove. This doesn’t happen in Morocco where if you have money you can get your hands on anything. Hopefully the countries open the borders soon.

Hello sir, I'm Algerian and I want to say your analysis is great and you mentioned all the information and they are 100% correct. Just to let you know Military confrontation will never happen 👏👏

@jamesratri775

2 жыл бұрын

Possible , namass7ohom m carta si c’est possible

@DaTam-pg6sx

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesratri775 سير قلب على الماء باش تمسح قاعك هو الاول وباش تطفي النار الى شعلت فيك هههه خرب عقولكم بوخروبة حتى اصبحتم تعتقدون انكم فعلا قوة اقليمية بينما انتم لستم سوى قوة طابورية

@jamesratri775

2 жыл бұрын

@@DaTam-pg6sx hhh dok nchofokom mena lal 2 wala 3 mois twelou bla daw tadmachou w tebkou, ah y’a malik y’a sidna y’a rabna fra3na hh

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. A great to hear a perspective from on the ground. I agree. My sense is that it won’t head towards military confrontation - at least not on purpose. The problem is that with such tense situations, underpinned by so many decades of mistrust, even relatively small incidents can quickly turn into a crisis and even a larger confrontation. But do you see any hope for reconciliation or is that just too difficult for the foreseeable future?

@idyllenaive.5461

2 жыл бұрын

Évite de leur donner d l importance et ds explications, les disputes territoriales restera l apanage des états,

Algeria did well 💯

@sherlockholmes6438

2 жыл бұрын

@@elmo776 nope

@mouradrahal3281

2 жыл бұрын

@@elmo776 Morocco is a territory with no sovereignty, its economy fully controlled by foreign companies. Morocco's Human Development Index equaling 121, among the worst in Africa. This reflects the high level of poverty of the Moroccan 35 million population.

@yvessaintmichel5269

2 жыл бұрын

Cutting ties is almost never a good decision for any entity throughout history

@yvessaintmichel5269

2 жыл бұрын

@@mouradrahal3281 I last heard that the emiratis own or will soon own all the ports in Algeria 😜🤪

The tensions come from the political instability that Algeria is currently experiencing, which is hiding behind an external plot to stifle protest and unify the country in front of an imaginary enemy. Algeria has excellent relations with all the countries which are allied with Israel, including Sudan, Ethiopia, Jordan, the emirates .... and they even have indirect relations with Israel. Accused Morocco of fires while several countries in the world are experiencing the same phenomenon shows how the Algerian military regime is in a complicated position. Morocco does not support any independence movement in Algeria, it simply asks Algeria to stop bringing the Sahara issue back to all meetings that do not concern the subject. Support comes through arms money official recognition as Algeria does with the Polisario and not words. Thanks for the video, i have a second comment about Moroccan Sahara wich i found very unfair how you developped the subject in your last video.

As an Algerian I do not see a war happening between us and our neighbor Morocco for all the government level degradation of relations, the Algerian regime would not survive a war and the Algerians would not stand to kill their Moroccan brothers or vice versa. Our people do not want war and the the Algerian street would see protests only matched of those of 2020 (Hirak protests),the only way forward is a united Magreb. Easier said then done would be the phrase that comes to mind, Algeria is still moderately conservative opposed to its Moroccan and Tunisian counterparts who have taken more of lighter tone to liberalizing their economics and culture. This has allowed them more diplomatic influence and international financial aid as opposed to Algerians limited influence and aid. Though even without the corrupt regime in Algeria the Algerian people would still hold similar points of disagreement.

@user-kg7zr3yl3n

11 ай бұрын

nah i'm sorry but i'd stand to k**l algerians if war starts, the amount of insults and disrespect from both the people, media and government have made you dead in my heart, i will also never forgive the mass expulsion of moroccans in 1975 which algerians keep justifying and supporting to this day, the lies and backstabbing after all the support against france and always accusations in the honor of our women, which is against everything that muslims and arabs stand for, i know there are probably some good people left in algeria, but the overwhelming majority is too deeply brainwashed that i see no solution other than a lead pill straight to the brain

@jeanclaude6856

8 ай бұрын

​@@user-kg7zr3yl3nooof to realize your mom wasted 9 months on you 😂

@user-kg7zr3yl3n

8 ай бұрын

@@jeanclaude6856 proves my point exactly 😂😂... even a lead pill is too much waste on your kind, we're just gonna have to use a cattle gun

@jeanclaude6856

8 ай бұрын

@@user-kg7zr3yl3n The point is that you are worthless just live with that 😂

Algerian people love Moroccan people ❣️

@son-of-the-moorish-empire

Жыл бұрын

Moroccan people stands with QABYLE RÉPUBLIQUE. Free QABYLE

All in all. The analysis is accurate. I have to contest three ideas though. Morocco has not drooped its claim to Bechar and Tindouf. The residents are ethnically moroccans and speak Moroccan dialect. The area was annexed by france to Algeria because of discovered iron reserves back then. The countries came to an agreement to mutual exploitation of any land ressources (ifran treaty). Algeria does not support Palestine but use it for propaganda purposes. Algeria does not contribute any money to Quds committee or unroa or anything. In fact they anducted the palestine flag, added a crescent and gave it to its puppet. The real issue and the moral of the story is. Algeria wants to hold to the borders it inhertied from occupation. Morocco wants to return back to pre colonialism borders.

@Anas.22107

2 жыл бұрын

This is so sad I can tell your Moroccan you say Algeria doesn’t support Palestine but it does 100% if anything Morocco doesn’t as it has ties with Israel

@Anas.22107

2 жыл бұрын

Plus Algeria and Morocco uses to be a country of one before France came because they speak the same dialect darja with only a few different words bro just stop this hate to Algeria and claim it’s both the countries faults

@GEliteG

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anas.22107 claiming neutrality to sound academic is false. There is a huuuge difference between the regimes. There is a regime who open his arms to his enemy to sit and settle greivances and a regime who uses his neighbor to distract from internal issues. Algeria needs Morocco to be an enemy. Morocco doesnt need algeria at all.

@mouradrahal3281

2 жыл бұрын

"Morocco has not drooped its claim to Bechar and Tindouf." Despite its expansionist dreams, Morocco is too weak military (Global Fire Power 55) to dare cross the Algerian border, it will be literally destroyed by the Algerian army (Global Fire Power 27).

@GEliteG

2 жыл бұрын

@@mouradrahal3281 Global fire power is for kids. War is not a playstation game for stats nerds. You import all your basic needs in dollars. You cannot vaccinate your people. You dont have any food bank. The geography is on our side. You rely on one source of revenue which will be destroyed the moment you decide to attack. Your defense systems are not match to kamikaze drones. Thanks to our Israeli brothers. If a war happens it will be more humiliating that azeribijan beating armenia. Your army knows this and they don't have the guts to pull the trigger.

ok

The ones who are largely affected by the bitter fights between Rabat & Algiers are the low-income and impoverished residents near the border checkpoint of Zouj Beghal that has been closed since 1994. Families on both sides of the border have relatives and families living close to Zouj Beghal, yet they can't walk/drive past the border checkpoint to see each other.

Talk about MAK please !

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I do want to look into Kabylia at some point.

@Username-xl6jj

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay And the "Rif" too.

Morocco has a significant Berber minority as well so I dont think they are too sympathetic to Kabylia

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed! Great point! I was thinking that too, hence why I deliberately mentioned the large Berber-speaking communities in both countries in the background. ;-) I actually hope to take a look at the Kabylia issue in more detail in a future video.

@zesciarizo362

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay the biggest Berbers (we call them Amazighs) population in north Africa is located in Morocco, they don't feel separate from their home country as the Kabylie does.

@nak1509

2 жыл бұрын

Wrong, Morocco is actually majority Berber although there are problems between the government and the rif region it is nowhere near as bad as in Algeria.

@oussamamarroqino2579

2 жыл бұрын

The berbers in morocco is a majority they are loyal to their country unlike the kabyles

@medamz3653

2 жыл бұрын

Berbers in Morocco are not minority.. it's a majority

Hi

Mistakes. 1994 Morocco accused Algerian government of being involved. Not because there were 2 algerian involved. You need to review your information. Too many wrong information.

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

So, only one mistake then. (And that wasn’t a mistake. I explained the reason why Morocco introduced the visa requirement. It was because it believed Algerians were implicated. Whether they were right or not is irrelevant. They did it and that’s what matters.) If there were any more ‘errors’ do highlight them. But I suspect there aren’t and you won’t.

@kouswa

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay it is relevant. Accusing a neighboring country to be behind terrorist attacks. Other mistake, since 1948 not once an Israeli foreign minister threatened an arab country from another another arab country. Another mistake, Morocco support the division of Agerian territory by claiming the right of auto-determination of Kabylie region. Hence supporting a recognized terrorist organization by Algeria MAK which captured members were behind fires this summer. Some dicidant of this movement confirmed that MAK is financed by Morocco and Israel.

Lol, I thought that it was a robotic voice at first. I am from Algeria and a war could be good for Algeria. - Shift public opinion towards the war. - Insert leadership in the region. - Get a better public inmate by (freeing) Western Sahara. - Justify military spending. - force EU/US to review their relationship with Morocco because they have a bigger/vital interest Oil&gas present in Algeria (France is extremely dependant on it) Ps: I am against this I am just saying how it could benefit the country.

@waliddjema5442

2 жыл бұрын

@hakimho ziyechini yeah, like they did with Azerbaijan right? Or the US will help you, like they did with Afghanistan. Right? Funny how you only need foreigners and can't rely on yourselves.

@waliddjema5442

2 жыл бұрын

@hakimho ziyechini I am sure that the guys knows for treason, and those that have been kick out of 100+ countries, are trust worthy. Again, relying on others.

@waliddjema5442

2 жыл бұрын

@hakimho ziyechini I like how people without an elected government tell us how we should do democracy.

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Not quite sure what to make of the bit about a robotic voice: a criticism of my delivery or praise for being so precise and clearly spoken. :-) Seriously, though, while many might argue that one or other side could benefit from war, I think the outcome would be disastrous. The problem is, as you point out, many people will be making these sorts of calculations. This is why such situations are so very dangerous. If the political situation gets worse in Algeria, do we get to a point where war becomes a potential diversion. After all, this wouldn't be the first time!

@waliddjema5442

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay I didn't mean to insult you, it's just that most videos about this topic are from robotic voices, so it was good to see a human for once! As for the war, I would say it'll play out like in Azerbaijan, a quick 2-3 weeks one, just enough to destroy some key infrastructure and gift western Sahara their independence (the UN doesn't recognize moroccos' claim) And yes, it wouldn't be the first time, because in 1963 when Morocco >invaded Also, I know that there will be casualties in both sides, but in the long run, it'll be worth it.

Nice video as usual James. I am a moroccan who only recently has become interested in this issue, and I am still looking into the Western Sahara conflict in detail, because for years I have only been listening to the local media which of course never have anything good to say about Algeria nor the polisaroo front. You spoke about the border closing in '94 and how it was caused by the terrorists' nationality being algerian. I see that some algerians still insist that the moroccan government fabricated evidence to justify its decision. I think that even the algerian president (Tebboun) has reacted to the King's proposition of opening the borders by asking for an apology of what he sees as an unsubstanciated accusation. I don't know how accurate is that.

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much. We all encounter these sort of views in our local media on issues - and this does shape us. But it is so important for everyone to try to take a step back and look at situations from a more detached perspective. I think much of my interest in international relations comes from wanting to take a more independent look at issues and so I always like to hear from others who try to do the same. I wish more people would! If there's one thing that comes out in the comments on the channel its that there are a lot of people who never for one moment try to question their country's official position on an issue - and get upset when anyone else tries to. I find this endlessly fascinating. Unfortunately, I can't give you a good answer in what happened in 1994. It was obviously an extremely sensitive issue. And its effects are still being felt to this day. It could well be the case - as often happens in such situations - that both sides are in the right and wrong. While Algerians may have been involved, despite Algeria's claims, the question is whether Morocco's response was reasonable. While it wouldn't have seemed unreasonable to impose visa restrictions after such an attack, especially given the conflict taking place in Algeria, perhaps there is a sense in Algeria that this was something that Morocco had in fact wanted to do and was looking for a pretext to do it. Certainly, the border shouldn't still be closed (and presumably visa restrictions still in place) almost three decades later.

its just got 10 times worse after the last sudden attack

I first visited Morocco in 2002. Even then it was bad

The morrocan king has ignored all the Algerian's concerns in the speech.

@nak1509

2 жыл бұрын

What were those concerns? All I heard from the Algerian regime is them covering up their failures and problems by blaming it on others.

@mrM-cr8me

2 жыл бұрын

So whey did keep crying for the borders heh lol 😆

@nak1509

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrM-cr8me I’m confused about who you’re talking about? You’re talking about the Algerian people right who are lacking diverse jobs because the Algerian economy is centered around oil&gas. If the borders open they could atleast find new jobs in trade and different sectors

@adanenardine684

2 жыл бұрын

@@elmo776 Algeria has nothing to negotiate, all we want apologizing that's it, the rest between you and the Sahraoui as you did before.

@mrM-cr8me

2 жыл бұрын

@@elmo776 we don't wait for no one thats whey we closed everything

United Nations should speed up the process of decolonization of Western Sahara. All those troubles are stemming from this burning issue and the international community should take responsibility for fixing it

@brayan7952

2 жыл бұрын

My grandfather is a historian, he told me that Algeria has been trying to divide Morocco and assess the Sahara for 45 years before the Spanish and French conquest of the Sahara, Morocco's anger was already ruled by the Moroccan sultan.

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I completely agree. It is interesting to see how the Western Sahara issue is creating wider regional complications between two very heavily armed countries. (And really Morocco only has one state threat - Algeria.) Unfortunately, I think Trump’s decision last year has complicated matters. Morocco won’t see any reason to compromise on the issue now. And Biden shows no sign of reversing it. But also, Algeria does seem to be using the situation for domestic political purposes. WS really does need to be resolved.

@brayan7952

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay Algerian also does not see well that Morocco will have a good relationship with Israel

@beautifulbaby4585

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay that's exactly why this matter needs to be handled by United Nations exclusively. Trump created a dangerous precedent indeed. Now, UN needs to lead on this issue

@JamesKerLindsay

2 жыл бұрын

@@beautifulbaby4585 Thanks. I completely agree. But the problem is trying to get consensus on the Security Council. The question is whether, even if Biden doesn’t reverse Trump’s decision, Washington will now take a very strong stance in favour of a negotiated agreement. The problem is that this creates a very difficult political conundrum for the US: if it now recognised WS as Moroccan, then it becomes rather more difficult to ask it to negotiate away that sovereignty.

When you identify the situation you’ll actually see that Algeria has no problem with its neighbour Tunisia , Libya , Mali and Niger Morocco is actually the warmonger here since 1963 ( and before 1550 )

@kenzo5096

7 ай бұрын

@@badrm9175 you’re talking nonsense : -Lybia had problem because of France and Sarkozy -Niger had problem because of France and Macron -Mali had problem because of terrorism and independantist movements and because of France as you guessed it So ? What problem did Algeria bring huh ? Lol

@kenzo5096

Ай бұрын

@@badrm9175 don’t talk if you’re uneducated

can I correct you at the start you said Algeria supported polizario giving them Tindouf as land but you didn't mentioned that Kadafi also help & support polizario full finance for their living it's too complicated but at the end war will be between Morocco v polizario which they will loose heavily Algeria will just watch till Morocco end the polizario & investment & business as usual than Algeria will say ohhh sorry neighbour bla bla remember Morocco never loose a war check or Google it out

Great analysis professor, As an algerian , I am fully against cutting diplomatic relations with Morocco. But there are a lot of factors that you didn't mention. Most drugs that are in Algeria are made in Morocco , since Hash is legal for medical production uses.on the other hand, if you go to Morocco (particularly near the Algerian border ) you'll find Algerian fuel and food staples , smuggled illegally to the country.Algeria states that Morocco support the drug dealers (Spain also does that i think) and this point also causes tensions. I want to ask you professor,i think when we look at international relations in third world countries, untold stories like that i've mentioned are left behind in news but have a colossal impact in international relations, don't you think?

@pussycatlover6522

2 жыл бұрын

Moroccan Hashish is sold legally in Amsterdam. Algerians appears to like the Hash, hence they smuggle it, don't you think? I believe you call it Zatla!

@3aaaaacharif698

2 жыл бұрын

@@pussycatlover6522 problem not just zatla mr Mr zamal But big problem is sextourist and pedophilia do u understand that mr Mr zamal

@3aaaaacharif698

2 жыл бұрын

@@elmo776 liar's

@samirius6730

2 жыл бұрын

@@elmo776 it looks like you're one of those "ayacha" sent to do propaganda There are not less than 500 thousands of Moroccans working in ALgeria, most of them are illegal workers without papers, crossing illegally the borders to find a work in the Algerian part, and no one is treated bad, in the opposite they find a welcoming people happy to see brothers of them and glad to help them get a better life. Would you say the opposite ?

@algeria1622

2 жыл бұрын

@@pussycatlover6522 yes we call it that, I just mentioned an important point that the professor didn't mention.I didn't give a point of view on legalizing Hash or not