It seems to me that the platonic math that has explanatory force is still only a description, not an organizing principle. I personally don’t believe that Socrates soul lives on as a form. I like Kuhn’s observation that lowly humans can ask (and fumble at answers) such complicated and fundamental questions is itself wonderful.

Amazing discussion, thank you.

Awesome comments and replies!!!

Porque deveria ter? O que é ter uma razão,? Qual a razão de um processo quimico/Fisico senão se concluir? Pois em nossa posição e só isso que nos é dado saber. Esse negocio de razão, sentido etc.-, é algo que só ocorre a mente humana e, a mente humana e/ou quaisquer outras que houver por ai, ainda assim representam uma parte infinitesimal do cosmos, mais ainda, essas mentes, sáo formadas pela mesma coisa que constitui esses cosmos, por materia criada por esse cosmos. Determinar a razão de algo é aplicavel somente se esse algo faz parte de um contexto finito dentro de nossa vida, ou seja, for algo sobre o qual temos noção de suas medidas, de seu tempo, esta dentro do escopo do que chamamos de vida, no caso, nos é que estamos dentro desse algo, pior, não somos quase nada desse algo. Por exemplo, posso saber que a razão de haver quebrado o nariz, foi que alguem jogou uma casca de banana no chão e, esse alguém, por alguma razão fez isso e assim sucessivamente, ou seja a coisa toda gira dentro de um contexto finito e ao nosso alcance.Mas como posso querer saber a razão do cosmos, se é que há isso e significa algo, como se ele fosse apenas mais uma casca de bananas jogada no meu caminho, na minha vida, sendo eu uma particula imersa nesse cosmos, do qual sequer sei as dimensões?. Bem ai, aqueles de fé, que não é o meu caso, podem argumentar que somente ao criador é dado saber a razão, ele saberia, isso para mim é só transferir o problema, e qual a razão do criador? por ai vai

Cosmos "Yes! I have my reasons and in due time you will discover the sublime beauty and the sheer horror of how simple those reasons truly are."

Thanks!

One continuing quibble is that presentations don’t always deliver against the tease of the title.

@Jan96106

10 ай бұрын

This one certainly didn't. But I would have been surprised (and disbelieving) if he said he had the answer.

@ronhudson3730

10 ай бұрын

Me too. Still, would like to have a word with whoever writes the titles to these KZread videos. Very often either bait and switch or lunch bag letdown.

@dongshengdi773

10 ай бұрын

​@@Jan96106Are the laws of nature or physics blind in that they seek no direction and have no 'purpose'? That's the scientific paradigm. But the world works so well: from a very simple beginning, complexities and beauties have emerged. Some say that there are deep 'organizing principles' in the laws of nature such that complexities are natural and expected outcomes. A conscious universe with intent. A universe that's not blind with no direction or purpose. This implies a Creator 造物主。

@dongshengdi773

10 ай бұрын

​@@ronhudson3730What we are doing is strange, in a sense that, we find that there is this mathematical structure that underlies the universe. And we are in the process of discovering this structure. This mathematics describes how the universe evolves. It also seems to describe how the universe came into being, so it is very puzzling. Does this Mathematics has some independent existence of its own in some platonic realm or is it a mere description of the universe? It appears that the development of physics points to the first possibility.

@ronhudson3730

10 ай бұрын

@@dongshengdi773I got it. That was all implied by the title.

The fact that this is all here -- means anything is possible.

@myles5158

10 ай бұрын

Great answer sir

It all looks like a life creation system to me.

@user-hr2oi6jd7m

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, from God.

@stoictraveler1

10 ай бұрын

@@user-hr2oi6jd7m maybe

@tonyatkinson2210

10 ай бұрын

Not to me it doesn’t . As far as we know life is limited to a tiny fraction of the universe. No life in the vast empty spaces , in suns, on most planets . If anything , the universe looks like a black hole generating system

@stoictraveler1

10 ай бұрын

@@tonyatkinson2210 we will see.

@myles5158

10 ай бұрын

@@stoictraveler1 yeah we will see. We can have whatever thoughts about what we want it to be but we simply do NOT know at this point in time.

Very simple and beautiful thoughts of this physicist, with the exception of a 'begining of the Universe, initial conditions, and mathematics as being something real', all of which, all these three conceptions, are not correct. The dynamical inflation of the Universe is simple, direct, natural, and highly causal. It is unbounded, continues forever, and it is unstoppable, because there's nothing out there to stop it. The Universe doesn't have any beginning and end, and there are no initial states absolutely at all. Anything that's thought as an initial state is in fact a natural "effect of a previous cause" and so on and on, forever. The theoretical logic process called "mathematics"represents only the way the human brain ( the evolutive so-called "biological" brain, either natural or "artificial" ) "understands" or "observes" any perceived aggregated realm around itself. "Mathematics" just molds onto 'reality' and models it theoretically ( = tries to interpret it "theoretically", "logically", etc ). "Mathematics" it not a reality in itself. Human logic (= human brain ) can mold its "cognitive" process onto anything it "observes", and as a final result approximates some practical usefulness for its ( ultimately useless ) "own" advantage. For example, if the real process it models is not a "linear process", it "invents" the nonlinear one, if this is not enough it "invents" etc, etc, etc, and in the end if it's still not enough it can approximate in continuously new theoretical way of logic categories ad infinitum, since the theoretical ( =artificial ) logic associations do not have any limit.

@kitstamat9356

10 ай бұрын

But how this theoretical logic association which do not have any limit appeared? What is the cause of such a straordinary capability?

8:08 - Maths are pretty cool. 😎

Why should there be a reason for the cosmos? The idea that the universe owes us an explanation seems anthropomorphic to me. Why shouldn't the universe be without reason? It seems to me that the very existence of the universe defies reason. My personal hunch is that the universe exists for no reason at all. It's up to each of us, as we live our lives, to give it a reason. It's a Promethean enterprise of extraordinary importance, driven by faith in human action and greatness. I call Promethean a vision of the world that seeks to give meaning, purpose, and value to the world in which we live, and thereby to fulfill our role in the universe. Derisory, but necessary.

Reason is a concept we invented 🤗

@bozo5632

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, but the rules for reasoning seem to be solid. If we met martians who didn't know about it, or chickens. and we could teach it to them, it would make them smarter. In fact animals already do it, to some extent. The rules are probably universal, as much discovered as invented, like math. You can even break it down exactly into math, into symbolic logic.

@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

10 ай бұрын

*"Reason is a concept we invented"* ... If that were true, then there was no reason for you to post your comment, correct?

@lukewalker1051

10 ай бұрын

Man did not invent mathematics. We are in the process of discovering it which underlies the physics of the universe. We are in effect trying to decode math. Just like it has always existed since and perhaps before the big bang. Man has since discovered it more comprehensively.

@bozo5632

10 ай бұрын

@@lukewalker1051 IDK. In nature there can be one thing, or two things, but there's never 1+1=2 things. The "plus one" part never physically happens. I think what we "discover" is that some of the math we invent is useful in describing nature. But most of the math we could invent is not useful.

@fernandoc.dacruz1162

10 ай бұрын

Com certeza, uma das coisas que mais atrapalham o raciocinio humano é que eles não entendem que um monte de coisas em seus argumentos, não passam de conceitos humanos, criados por humanos, para uso por humanos, os quais aplicam de forma indiscriminada à materia inerte, a qual se pensar bem vera que é quase todo o uiniverso, afinal de contas vida é o que menos se ve nesse cosmos. Então acabamos observando gente morando embaixo de pedras enormes, pulando de abismos e outras loucuras, acreditando que nada vai lhes acontecer pois sempre foram boas, praticaram o amor, deus e blá. bla., maluquices desse tipo. O universo ao redor ignora tudo isso, nem sei se podemos dizer que ignora, pois sequer tem uma consciência, pelo menos no nosso nivel, ignora o que é certo, errado, bonito feio, inocente culpado, com ou sem sentido, razão etc, tudo coisa de nossa cabeça, o cosmos existe, aconteceu, só isso e, qual a razão, o sentido de uma reação fisico/quimica (basicamente é o que ocorre), senão concluir.

Humans can determine purpose by observation - how does a system behave and what results does the process or object provide. By observation: The purpose of the universe is to provide a vessel for intelligence to express itself.

You’re asking about purpose, meaning and value right? Yes, we have a purpose and the cosmos is our platform. The selfsame man has 4 desires, which are indicative to all mankind, They are: 1. The desire to eat, to sleep and to wear 2. The desire for sex 3. The desire to gain position 4. The desire for knowledge Some may argue that eating is a need, but nobody says anybody needs to live. In the morning if you want to eat you are faced with working so you can slide money across the counter at the grocery store, or you can fish, hunt, or farm. Desire requires (pursues) joy and happiness through action. We can reasonably say that joy and happiness is the purpose of life. This is also God’s desire 4 human desires require 4 social systems. They are: 1. The economic system 2. The family system 3. The political system 4. The education system Desire requires 4 actions. God is in the action. They are: 1. Work 2. Sex 3. Shedding tears and sweat 4. Asking questions, experimenting, experiencing, or pursuing truth, both in natural law and the eternal verities. 4 licentious desires require 4 kinds of sin. They are: The honest robbery on the street with a gun, or embezzlement. Embezzlement is more dishonest than the robbery on the street. 2. Bad sex 3. Murder 4. Falsehood You can enjoy life, you can rejoice, you can be overjoyed, but the highest expression of God’s purpose of life is to jump for joy. Purpose determines meaning, and meaning, value. God wants us to have a balanced life, not to be religious. All the best

The reason of the cosmos would be to create possibilities, given the amount of possibilities anything is pretty much possible.

My take is this. If you conceive of the cosmos as being just another thing in the universe, then the question makes sense. If you conceive of the cosmos as not being just another thing in the universe, then the question is meaningless. Now another thing. Is one of the two above conceptions more in line with Ocham's Razor than the other?

@kos-mos1127

10 ай бұрын

The Cosmos is the entirety of reality so it would encompass the universe.

@arthurwieczorek4894

10 ай бұрын

@@kos-mos1127 So from your statement, can you make the other connections in logic? The cosmos is the entirty of reality so it encompasses the universe. So the universe is not just another thing in the universe. That is, a part of a thing is not the entirty of the thing. Therefore to inquire about the reason for the universe/cosmos is a fools errand. That is, you cannot meaningfully ask the same questions about universe that you can about things in the universe.

@kos-mos1127

10 ай бұрын

@@arthurwieczorek4894 It is meaningless to ask the same questions about the universe that you would ask about things in the universe. What’s the meaning of my life is a reasonable question it gets complicated when that same question gets scaled up to all of humanity and becomes meaningless when scaled up to what’s the meaning of all life.

@arthurwieczorek4894

10 ай бұрын

@@kos-mos1127 Exactly.

Yes, it's my structure!

Yes.

The cosmos has reason because we have reason.

Consciousness....

Awareness is known by awareness alone.

Being a part of the Cosmos that has imagined the reasons for existence allows me to suggest that, certainly, reasons have been attributed to the Cosmos by those who are a part of the Cosmos.

@b.g.5869

10 ай бұрын

Kamala Harris has entered the chat.

@eugenefirebird8938

10 ай бұрын

@@b.g.5869 People actually voted for her. Very mysterious ha ha ha

@dongshengdi773

10 ай бұрын

​@@b.g.5869Are the laws of nature or physics blind in that they seek no direction and have no 'purpose'? That's the scientific paradigm. But the world works so well: from a very simple beginning, complexities and beauties have emerged. Some say that there are deep 'organizing principles' in the laws of nature such that complexities are natural and expected outcomes. A conscious universe with intent. A universe that's not blind with no direction or purpose. This implies a Creator 造物主。

@dongshengdi773

10 ай бұрын

​@@eugenefirebird8938What we are doing is strange, in a sense that, we find that there is this mathematical structure that underlies the universe. And we are in the process of discovering this structure. This mathematics describes how the universe evolves. It also seems to describe how the universe came into being, so it is very puzzling. Does this Mathematics has some independent existence of its own in some platonic realm or is it a mere description of the universe? It appears that the development of physics points to the first possibility.

@b.g.5869

10 ай бұрын

@@dongshengdi773 The laws of nature are blind and objectively are neither good nor bad nor beautiful nor ugly; they just are. However, objectively, the universe we observe is not the sort of universe we would expect to see if there were a god such as the god of Christianity or other major religion centred upon a personal creator god with a keen interest in humans. Most of the universe is unsuitable for life as we know it, and for the vast majority of the future none of it will be capable of supporting complex structures and thermodynamic work, much less life as we know it. Theists are astonishingly inconsistent. On the one hand, they'll often make claims such as you have here, claiming the universe is a beautiful well oiled machine. But when people point out all of that is obviously at odds with this claim (e.g. disease, gratuitous suffering, natural disasters, the cruelties and brutality observed in nature such as insects injecting eggs into other living creatures that slowly devour it etc), they'll say "Oh, but that's because it's a fallen world hummina hummina 😧!" etc Well, which is it 🤔? You can't have it both ways; so 'perfect' there has to be a god, and so awful there has to be a god.

Everything thing we can know for certain is based upon the information provided by our five senses.

No,it doesn't have to have a reason.Nothing has to have a reason.But me maybe there is a reason.We will never know,either way.

if we keep asking why then we will never find happiness and purpose, just watch and experience it yourself,

You, sir, are nothing but a philosopher!!!

@infinitemonkey917

10 ай бұрын

It's kinda funny because I searched Vilenkin before watching this. I was going to skip it if it turned out he is a philosopher.

@christophercousins184

10 ай бұрын

@@infinitemonkey917 I'm sorry, but that was rather weak stuff, IMHO... I mean, of course, it could be true, but...

@S3RAVA3LM

10 ай бұрын

What kind of grown man makes a tedious trite comment like this here while not contributing anything. Certainly not a genuine man!

@christophercousins184

10 ай бұрын

@@S3RAVA3LM The kind who apparently didn't take this conversation as seriously as you did. I must admit however, that I take a little pride in being both tedious and trite as usually I'm just one or the other... I was referring to the joke they were both making, BTW. (lighten up a little, it's all gonna be fine whether this guy's right or not)

@christophercousins184

10 ай бұрын

@@S3RAVA3LM That's it? I was hoping for a contribution from you as you pointed out that I am not making any myself. Dear God (Spinoza's God, of course), give me patience.

A segment from 'Saved by the Light of the Buddha Within'... My new understandings of what many call 'God -The Holy Spirit' - resulting from some of the extraordinary ongoing after-effects relating to my NDE... Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what some scientists are now referring to as the unified field of consciousnesses. In other words, it’s the essence of all existence and non-existence - the ultimate creative force behind planets, stars, nebulae, people, animals, trees, fish, birds, and all phenomena, manifest or latent. All matter and intelligence are simply waves or ripples manifesting to and from this core source. Consciousness (enlightenment) is itself the actual creator of everything that exists now, ever existed in the past, or will exist in the future - right down to the minutest particles of dust - each being an individual ripple or wave. The big difference between chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo and most other conventional prayers is that instead of depending on a ‘middleman’ to connect us to our state of inner enlightenment, we’re able to do it ourselves. That’s because chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo allows us to tap directly into our enlightened state by way of this self-produced sound vibration. ‘Who or What Is God?’ If we compare the concept of God being a separate entity that is forever watching down on us, to the teachings of Nichiren, it makes more sense to me that the true omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence of what most people perceive to be God, is the fantastic state of enlightenment that exists within each of us. Some say that God is an entity that’s beyond physical matter - I think that the vast amount of information continuously being conveyed via electromagnetic waves in today’s world gives us proof of how an invisible state of God could indeed exist. For example, it’s now widely known that specific data relayed by way of electromagnetic waves has the potential to help bring about extraordinary and powerful effects - including an instant global awareness of something or a mass emotional reaction. It’s also common knowledge that these invisible waves can easily be used to detonate a bomb or to enable NASA to control the movements of a robot as far away as the Moon or Mars - none of which is possible without a receiver to decode the information that’s being transmitted. Without the receiver, the data would remain impotent. In a very similar way, we need to have our own ‘receiver’ switched on so that we can activate a clear and precise understanding of our own life, all other life and what everything else in existence is. Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day helps us to achieve this because it allows us to reach the core of our enlightenment and keep it switched on. That’s because Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what scientists now refer to as the unified field of consciousnesses. To break it down - Myoho represents the Law of manifestation and latency (Nature) and consists of two alternating states. For example, the state of Myo is where everything in life that’s not obvious to us exists - including our stored memories when we’re not thinking about them - our hidden potential and inner emotions whenever they’re dormant - our desires, our fears, our wisdom, happiness, karma - and more importantly, our enlightenment. The other state, ho, is where everything in Life exists whenever it becomes evident to us, such as when a thought pops up from within our memory - whenever we experience or express our emotions - or whenever a good or bad cause manifests as an effect from our karma. When anything becomes apparent, it merely means that it’s come out of the state of Myo (dormancy/latency) and into a state of ho (manifestation). It’s the difference between consciousness and unconsciousness, being awake or asleep, or knowing and not knowing. The second law - Renge - Ren meaning cause and ge meaning effect, governs and controls the functions of Myoho - these two laws of Myoho and Renge, not only function together simultaneously but also underlies all spiritual and physical existence. The final and third part of the tri-combination - Kyo, is the Law that allows Myoho to integrate with Renge - or vice versa. It’s the great, invisible thread of energy that fuses and connects all Life and matter - as well as the past, present and future. It’s also sometimes termed the Universal Law of Communication - perhaps it could even be compared with the string theory that many scientists now suspect exists. Just as the cells in our body, our thoughts, feelings and everything else is continually fluctuating within us - all that exists in the world around us and beyond is also in a constant state of flux - constantly controlled by these three fundamental laws. In fact, more things are going back and forth between the two states of Myo and ho in a single moment than it would ever be possible to calculate or describe. And it doesn’t matter how big or small, famous or trivial anything or anyone may appear to be, everything that’s ever existed in the past, exists now or will exist in the future, exists only because of the workings of the Laws ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ - the basis of the four fundamental forces, and if they didn’t function, neither we nor anything else could go on existing. That’s because all forms of existence, including the seasons, day, night, birth, death and so on, are moving forward in an ongoing flow of continuation - rhythmically reverting back and forth between the two fundamental states of Myo and ho in absolute accordance with Renge - and by way of Kyo. Even stars are dying and being reborn under the workings of what the combination ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ represents. Nam, or Namu - which mean the same thing, are vibrational passwords or keys that allow us to reach deep into our life and fuse with or become one with ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’. On a more personal level, nothing ever happens by chance or coincidence, it’s the causes that we’ve made in our past, or are presently making, that determine how these laws function uniquely in each of our lives - as well as the environment from moment to moment. By facing east, in harmony with the direction that the Earth is spinning, and chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo for a minimum of, let’s say, ten minutes daily to start with, any of us can experience actual proof of its positive effects in our lives - even if it only makes us feel good on the inside, there will be a definite positive effect. That’s because we’re able to pierce through the thickest layers of our karma and activate our inherent Buddha Nature (our enlightened state). By so doing, we’re then able to bring forth the wisdom and good fortune that we need to challenge, overcome and change our adverse circumstances - turn them into positive ones - or manifest and gain even greater fulfilment in our daily lives from our accumulated good karma. This also allows us to bring forth the wisdom that can free us from the ignorance and stupidity that’s preventing us from accepting and being proud of the person that we indeed are - regardless of our race, colour, gender or sexuality. We’re also able to see and understand our circumstances and the environment far more clearly, as well as attract and connect with any needed external beneficial forces and situations. As I’ve already mentioned, everything is subject to the law of Cause and Effect - the ‘actual-proof-strength’ resulting from chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo always depends on our determination, sincerity and dedication. For example, the levels of difference could be compared to making a sound on a piano, creating a melody, producing a great song, and so on. Something else that’s very important to always respect and acknowledge is that the Law (or if you prefer God) is in everyone and everything. NB: There are frightening and disturbing sounds, and there are tranquil and relaxing sounds. It’s the emotional result of any noise or sound that can trigger off a mood or even instantly change one. When chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day, we are producing a sound vibration that’s the password to our true inner-self - this soon becomes apparent when you start reassessing your views on various things - such as your fears and desires etc. The best way to get the desired result when chanting is not to view things conventionally - rather than reaching out to an external source, we need to reach into our own lives and bring our needs and desires to fruition from within - including the good fortune and strength to achieve any help that we may need. Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo also reaches out externally and draws us towards, or draws towards us, what we need to make us happy from our environment. For example, it helps us to be in the right place at the right time - to make better choices and decisions and so forth. We need to think of it as a seed within us that we’re watering and bringing sunshine to for it to grow, blossom and bring forth fruit or flowers. It’s also important to understand that everything we need in life, including the answer to every question and the potential to achieve every dream, already exists within us.

@GH-hh8cm

10 ай бұрын

Garbage

Not sure exactly why folks put our existence prettymuch always aside when we talk about the cosmos. We are the universe also, we are not like magically apart from the cosmos, laws of nature also apply to us and everything we do, we are up to our neck in it.. Lots whats happens in our civilisation has a reason. When intelligence in the cosmos grows and grows at some point it becomes obvious that there is lots of order and reason something that must have been there from the beginnning.

@kos-mos1127

10 ай бұрын

We do know if there was a beginning. The farthest we have observed is the cosmic microwave background radiation. Then we make mathematical inferences to take us backs further. The problem is if any of our assumptions are wrong then the inferences are wrong as well.

@fortynine3225

10 ай бұрын

@@kos-mos1127 The Big Bang theory has huge support with there being plenty observational evidence i doubt it is wrong. Big Bang theory states that our universe started out as a small hot dence point.

@kos-mos1127

10 ай бұрын

@@fortynine3225 No it does not. The Big Bang theory states the universe was in a dense state everywhere. There was no single point from which the universe expanded because of the uniformity and isotropy of the cosmic microwave background radiation. That observation shows the universe was infinite at the Big Bang and is still infinite now due to the smoothness of the CMB. Today we have an observable time horizon that surrounds us for 13.8 billion years because of finite speed of light. To understand this you need to know about light cones. We as observers are trapped on the expanding hyper surface of the cosmos where gravity lives. The Cosmos has the shape of a 4D hypersphere and this is where matter lives. Now from our perspective time flows because of the finite speed of light. From the Cosmos’s perspective time stands still because it’s outside the light cone so time is another dimension of space so there is no beginning or end.

NOW THERE ARE TWO QUESTIONS WHICH WILL REALLY AFFECT OUR LIVES. HOW DID THE UNIVERSE BEGIN? AND WHAT IS OUR RELATION WITH THE UNIVERSE? MULTIVERSE?

@sandradixon6205

10 ай бұрын

According to astronomers, scientists etc, the JWST has disproved the Big Bang theory, which isn’t surprising. Energy and matter don’t materialize from nothing and any kind of explosion produces complete chaos, not the law and order we see in the universe. Also, life can only come from preexisting life. The only logical explanation is what the Bible’s opening words say: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth”. Wherever we look in the universe or on our beautiful planet there is evidence of intelligent design so an Intelligent Designer must be behind it all. If it takes intelligent humans to create AI, it must take someone far superior to humans to create us and all the exquisite life on earth. In the Bible our Creator answers life’s important questions such as, where we came from, why we are here, what the purpose of life is, why we grow old and die, what happens when we die, and what the future holds, among others. He also tells us about himself so that we can get to know him. As our heavenly Father, he loves and cares about us, and wants to help us. Very shortly he’s going to solve all our problems so that we can have a wonderful future. (Psalm 37:10, 11, 29; Micah 4:3, 4; Isaiah 65:21, 22; Revelation 21:3)

The reason of course is Leyla = play..novelty...by the one mind divided into the multiplicity.

DeLenn, Babylon 5 answered this quite succinctly.

I ask the cosmos if it has a reason, it answers yes. However, the same question to Robert says no. 😁

The reason for the existence of the cosmos might be eventual EQUILIBRIUM. (In all it's various states) This would be ideal.

The cosmos has reasons that reason knows not of... Or so I am told.

Was the question answered?, 🤔 I don't think so...

Do not expect to understand everything unless you approach gaining knowledge as a philosopher.

Humans have developed the ability to reason in order to predict events which aids reproduction, but the universe doesn't need a reason, it isn't trying to accomplish a goal and produces no final result, only continual change.

"Does the cosmos have a reason?". 10-³⁶ second is too long. 1 second of the inflation is too long. 0.012 is [was] okay. Could prolonged or intermittent exposure over 1 seconds but not more than 5 seconds per leap be considered an absurd reason for counteracting density or force?

Congratulations you no longer have to be troubled about the beginning of the creation. The spirit of truth will bear witness to this word and the word is Jesus. All things that were made were made by God through Christ Jesus. Now your struggle of wondering is over, congratulations!

Are thoughts a form of life the universe is reality

@kos-mos1127

10 ай бұрын

No

Human Culture is an emergent property of Evolutionary biology and it's existence is proof that since we are part of the Universe it has meaning.

in the Universe, in Life if we want to think everything have a reason then it would have a reason, the reality is all humans will go into extinct would that have a reason? everything is relative

Then theres also the problem of WHEN that random thing pops out because time can’t trail back infinitely.. meaning the very first instance of the cosmos was an eternal state meaning no sequence of events or cause and effect is relevant to it.. meaning random “events” just can’t happen anyway

@francesco5581

10 ай бұрын

we need to think about a "no-time" reality from which all started , no matter if in materialistic or spiritual terms.

@MrDominex

10 ай бұрын

Time CAN trail back infinitely just as it can trail forward infinitely, time simply becomes less relevant the further away from the Big Bang you get just as the difference between "up" and "down" become less relevant .the further away from the gravity of Earth (or any other body) you get. Reality can transcend time. Time is only a measure of the entropy that emerges from the expansion of the universe, it is not an absolute, underlying grid by which all actions can be compared in terms of which happens before or after the other. Whatever you observe is in your past because the speed of causation (and light) is finite, and the order of events depends on the relative motion of the observer. There is no ultimate beginning, only changes from one state to another, with events disappearing over a horiizon of observation. Beginnings are just the way we tell stories to ourselves about reality, they are merely literary conventions. No matter which way we look we are confronted by infinities and their paradoxes, though we may try to ignore them because we can't comprehend them.

@Scott777

10 ай бұрын

@@MrDominex wait a minute, if my finite mind can’t grasp it then yours cannot either, meaning what you’re saying is something you WANT to believe is true for whatever reason. All we have is logic and common sense and both point to the fact that time cannot trail back infinitely. This is as much a logical certainty as 1+1 will always be 2. The laws of logic are indisputable.

@MrDominex

10 ай бұрын

@@Scott777 You can grasp the fact that reality is infinite without being able to grasp every individual state reality can be in. I just want to know the truth because I am motivated by curiosity. I'm not engaging in sophistry in order to push an ideological agenda.

@MrDominex

10 ай бұрын

@@Scott777 You are resorting to the long-discredited Kalem or Cosmological Argument, which is as absurd as Zeno's paradox-- it's a form of theological stage magic designed to distract from the contradictions inherent in Creationism. Read my previous post more carefully. Nothing prevents an infinite past. The arrow of time that points from past to future only describes the direction of entropy from simple to complex, from less to more information, from a hotter, denser universe to a cooler, more diffuse one. If we wind the clock back far enough, heat, density and spacetime become infinite. That's not a beginning, thats infinity. Whether it turns out that the Big Bang is an eternal process that is always going on somewhere or multiple bubble universes branch off from parent universes in bkack holes or whether something like Penrose's Conformal Cyclic Cosmology where each Big Bang grows out of the void left by the previous one is still speculative. Scientists readily admit to what they don't know, it is the religious mind that demands certainty, even a false certainty based on wishful thinking rather than evidence.

"We (Allah/Creator) did not create the heaven and the earth and everything between them aimlessly.That is the assumption of those who disbelieve." Holy Quran (38:27)

No

Question asked, question NOT answered.

The universe is the only thing that could exist without a genie pinging it into existence: infinite possibility. This (quantum) field of infinite possibilities is an impersonal, eternal, intelligence dreaming. It is intelligent because it is infinite. But IT is One. Therefore IT is incomparable and without dimension. There is no other to move through IT or for IT to move through, so there is no time. Just as our dreams of exotic places take place not in space and time but in our minds while we sleep, this dream takes place not in space or time, but in One Mind. So there is no point. IT simply is.

@Resmith18SR

10 ай бұрын

Pure speculation.

@renko9067

10 ай бұрын

@@Resmith18SR Nope. Zen, Vedanta and Sufism have thousands of years under their belts, and are in total agreement. They have age old methods that work. And their writings have been around for centuries. But I get the mentality: “If I don’t know, how can anyone?”

@Resmith18SR

10 ай бұрын

@@renko9067 And you choose to believe with certainty that you're correct and that others are wrong or mistaken. Just believing and agreeing in something doesn't make it true. Agreement does not equal Truth and that's true in both Science and Philosophy. I believe that it ultimately doesn't matter and that people should try to live an enjoyable, healthy life without harming others.

@renko9067

10 ай бұрын

@@Resmith18SR 👍🏻 Prominent quantum mechanics physicists are starting to get it, which mystics have been predicting for the last 30 or so years. This video is a great example. One approach is math proofs and visualization, the other is directly experiential. I’m not trying to convince anybody of anything. These videos challenge people, and I like to challenge these videos because the questions that they’re searching for actually have been answered for 2500 years. Talk to any mystic of any religion, and they all agree with each other, unlike the mainstream religions, which arguing go to war. That was proof enough for me when I started my journey. kzread.info/dash/bejne/po12x6VtkafHe9o.html

Guys it is impossible an emperism verification. Keep out fundamental law of phich YOU are pseud phichcian.

The question is flawed. Does the Cosmos have a fragrance? That would be a legitimate question.

@mitrabuddhi

10 ай бұрын

"Not Cosmos" (or ~Cosmos in logics) is the cause for "Cosmos"

So, physics points to the likelihood that math is not merely descriptive but exists in its own Platonic realm? That is a mighty strong claim to make just before the fade out! Lol

@kos-mos1127

10 ай бұрын

That is debatable some physicist think math exist in a platonic realm some have changed there mind when Chatgpt came on the scene.

I'm glad cosmic microwave radiation keeps him awake at night, at least some nights.

Anything new in this?

No meaning is better than meaning. Meaning is a human invention.

@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386

10 ай бұрын

By your argument my dogs life and my cats experience has no meaning. Incoherent.

@RolandHuettmann

10 ай бұрын

@@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386 Why incoherent? They long to survive. Is this meaning -- survival? Real meaning?

@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386

10 ай бұрын

@@RolandHuettmann if you think dogs just long to survive and have no meaning you either have no dogs in your life. I would not trust you to take care of anything or anyone, because to you, nothing has meaning. Think about what you are saying friend.

@RolandHuettmann

10 ай бұрын

@@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386 Oh wow, you misunderstand the meaning of the word "meaning". I have a good life and love dogs, and they love me. ))) This here is not about the meaning you give to your daily activities (also human born) but about the essential meaning of existence, or the reason behind the reason.

@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386

10 ай бұрын

@@RolandHuettmann So wait, again, you claim that meaning is human invention, so have dogs suddenly adopted a human invention to gain meaning? And if it’s a human invention, humans didn’t have meaning until they invented it. This is incoherent and against direct experience of humans and dogs. This is why I say you have never truly experienced the world around you. You look at it like a robot. Without meaning. Or maybe you pretend not to see meaning because it’s a frightening prospect.

People think they can build the whole universe with their thoughts. I built the non-belief that it's possible. They all suffer from schizophrenia now. Not me. I'm so smart. Such a smart guy.

@fernandoc.dacruz1162

10 ай бұрын

Ta!

What is that "very peculiar explanation of the initial state" that inflation gives which can be logically and/or experimentally accessed?

@bozo5632

10 ай бұрын

It's not impossible. If a dog vomits macaroni, you can be certain enough that it recently ate macaroni, even if you've never seen macaroni before. The same sort of reasoning can be applied to cosmology. IDK if it will work (maybe there's no vomit to examine), but it's not impossible.

@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

10 ай бұрын

@@bozo5632 *"IIf a dog vomits macaroni, you can be certain enough that it recently ate macaroni, even if you've never seen macaroni before."* ... Up-vote for the unorthodox, yet poignant analogy.

@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386

10 ай бұрын

@@bozo5632That analogy is garbage. You are not predicting the physical equations of a dog vomiting. Inflation does that.

@bozo5632

10 ай бұрын

@@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386 No, I'd be predicting that the dog ate macaroni, which was previously unknown.

@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386

10 ай бұрын

@@bozo5632 predicting Eating or vomiting is not the same as writing down specific equations that cannot be falsified.

NOPE

who has done such stupid question... he is totaly lost in intellectual life, we human beings must go over the racional mind and live the intuicional percepcions...

Even if Jesus Christ was hear now, he wont be able to tell you about what he felt and thought during his journey. However, he learned an invaluable lesson he could only encourage you to try cause it aligns you to the vast powers that bombarded him during his patient enduring journey. A first time mother wont understand the process she will go through, but eventually, along the journey, she will receive all kinds of excellent gifts she wont necessarily imagine was possible. The same happens to those who wish to do well when they want to serve humanity reasonably in their own way. Remain favoured in your insight, mind, body, heart, enduring spirit, plus exercise in a manner that keeps both the cardiac muscles and the skeletal muscles in tandem, thereby exposing and encouraging secrets of life small bits at a time to your entire consciousness. It all starts with patience. Man cant learn every thing in one lifetime. You will have to come back to start from where you stopped the last time you was here. Please, don't doubt the powers in you even if it means dying for it.

Meaning to what? We think selfishly that we are but must be greater reason why the Universe? There must be a factor, whatever or whoever it is, and I don't mean God. Maker😂.

Physicist have moved on from math existing in a platonic realm to it being a good description of reality. They realized the mistake with the advent of the 2nd machine age.

Without a mind the laws of logic wouldn’t exist and subsequently no laws of physics at all could exist.. the universe can’t exist without reason, because even unguided randomness can’t literally be unguided

@tomjackson7755

10 ай бұрын

You seem to be very confused. Without the laws of physics there could be no minds.

@Scott777

10 ай бұрын

@@tomjackson7755its the opposite actually, without minds there is no laws of physics.. the laws of physics have no reason to exist or sustain independently for no reason.. and if thats what you believe thats no different than believing in an eternal God. The solution with a God is that he/she/it works with intent, the laws of physics don’t. Nothing can fundamentally work without intent.

@tomjackson7755

10 ай бұрын

@@Scott777 You are still confused. Reason doesn't apply to the laws of physics. There is no need for any god. All of nature works just fine without intent. Let me give you an example. The river flows through my town without any intent.

@Scott777

10 ай бұрын

@@tomjackson7755 Yes the river is part of intent. Your river isn’t flowing randomly. If you knock a trail of 50 dominoes the 13th piece for example fell because of the previous one and so on and so forth, not because it just randomly fell. Everything fundamentally works because of intent.

@simonhibbs887

10 ай бұрын

I'm one of those that think the laws of physics are descriptive. The universe simply is a certain way. It has persistent, consistent behaviours, and the 'laws' of physics are just more or less accurate and useful descriptions of those behaviours.

When our Creator is left out of the picture many questions remain unanswered, such as, why are we here? What’s the purpose of life? Why do we grow old and die? What happens to us when we die? What does the future hold? God created the universe, our beautiful planet and all life on it for a reason. (Isaiah 45:18) It’s no coincidence that earth is exactly the right distance from the sun, that the air we breathe has the right percentage of different elements, that we give off carbon dioxide while plants take it in and give off oxygen for us, that the water cycle exists, just to mention a few of the innumerable proofs of God’s existence. Everything in creation is exquisitely designed for its purpose. Anything that is designed must have a Designer. Also, for the universe to have a mathematical structure there has to be a great Mathematician behind it. There is great order in the universe and certain laws that keep things in their place, so there must be a great Lawmaker. Our Creator wants us to learn about him and his purpose for us and the earth. All of this information and the answers to the questions above are in the Bible.

The cosmos wouldn’t exist without minds

@fernandoc.dacruz1162

10 ай бұрын

Porque? Mentes é que não existiriam sem o cosmos, primeiro que ele é muito maior e mais abrangente que mentes, mentes, das quais até agora so conhecemos uma, mesmo havendo outras, ainda seriam uma parte infinitesimal, um atomo na estrutura dos cosmos, também essas mentes são formadas pela mesma materia que constitui o cosmos e foi criada por ele em seus processos.

@cesco3772

10 ай бұрын

​@@fernandoc.dacruz1162he means that without people to observe it, the universe itself will not have anyone to observe it. Scary and fascinating at the same time

@fernandoc.dacruz1162

10 ай бұрын

@@cesco3772 Sim entendo, mas ai não é uma questão de existir ou não e sim uma questão de ser observado ou não, sem pessoas para observa-lo o cosmos continuaria a existir, alias, basta olhar ao redor, por pelo menos cerca de 100 anos luz, há bons motivos para afirmar que não existe nada vivo para observa-lo e mai além, a saber, consciência, observadores é algo quase inexistente nesse cosmos, se considerarmo suas dimensões, se sumirmos amanhã, praticamente nada vai mudar. Esse tipo de postura já levou muita gente a afirmar sem qualquer fundamento, que nosa mente, nossa consciência é quem criaria a realidade, talvez a nivel emocional ou coisa assim, mas na realidade a nivel fisico não tem nada ver, criamos sim a nossa interpretação da realidade, pode ser que o sol não seja tão brilhante para mim quanto para voce, mas certamente existe algo ali e esse algo tem existência propria, independentemente de quem esta observando.

"Darwin's Theory" 😂

(8:10) *AV: **_We find that there is this mathematical structure that underlines the universe."_* ... That's because mathematics is what moved from nondimensional structure into multidimensional structure through the T=0 point of Big Bang. Matter and energy are the physical incarnation of nondimensional mathematical structure. And since the _"reason for the cosmos"_ was never discussed in the video, I openly state that the reason for the universe is to establish *justification for existence.* The universe is scripted via logic (mathematics), and a tenet of logic is the *"Principle of Sufficient Reason."* We operate via this principle, ... _and so does the universe!_

@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386

10 ай бұрын

Mathematics used in physics is inconsistent or incomplete. It cannot be the ultimate underlying structure of the Universe.

@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

10 ай бұрын

@@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386 *"Mathematics used in physics is inconsistent or incomplete. It cannot be the ultimate underlying structure of the Universe."* ... There is no more-consistent form of information than mathematics. If you have a more reliable / repeatable system of communication, I'd love to know what it is. Also, whatever unprovable aspects that exist within mathematics are carried over into physical structure. They are called "anomalies" in matter and "mutations" in biological life. In the realm of self-awareness, we call them "abstract concepts."

@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386

10 ай бұрын

@@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC what is more consistent than mathematocs? It is the witness consciousness that underlies all your (and all material) experience and rationality. I thought that would be obvious. All the talk of mutations and anomalies etc is just talk of magical excuses. 😀

@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC

10 ай бұрын

@@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386 *"what is more consistent than mathematocs? It is the witness consciousness that underlies all your (and all material) experience and rationality. I thought that would be obvious."* ... What data processing method did you use to reach that conclusion?

@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386

10 ай бұрын

@@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC i used the same data processing method you use to write your sentences and experience the screen in front of you. Do you experience the universe as data or do you actually experience colors and shapes and sizes? It is a honest question because I am starting to suspect you are a robot who get data input into your cpu from electromechanical sensors and don’t experience a thing. 😀

Yet on the other hand if anything at all could pop out of the vacuum of nothingness randomly, some thought still has to go behind the random thing that pops out.. something had to form or design that something the mindless cosmos can’t just have a list of all things that are random, so even that requires a mind.

@simonhibbs887

10 ай бұрын

As far as we can tell the initial state of the universe was extremely simple and uniform. An intelligent creative agency capable of initiating a cosmos must be fantastically complex and vastly or even infinitely capable. So instead of explaining the existence of something simple, we've now progressed to needing to explain the existence of something fantastically complicated. That doesn't seem like progress, or like any kind of route to an explanation.

Quick answer (and the only realistic answer,). NO

For example if a particle pops out of the vacuum of nothingness randomly.. if it was truly random wouldn’t have needed to be a particle, if it HAD to be a particle and could be nothing else that means there was intent behind it

@bozo5632

10 ай бұрын

If you fart in the tub, there are bubbles. Same logic applies.

@Scott777

10 ай бұрын

@@bozo5632the gas in the liquid creates the bubbles that rise to the surface, thats because gas and water all have their intended purposes, just as it was my initial intention to fart. Everything exists because of intention.

@bozo5632

10 ай бұрын

@@Scott777 well there's no defeating that logic. If you assume the conclusion, you're bound to reach it.

@b.g.5869

10 ай бұрын

To say that something popped out of nothingness into existence is indistinguishable from saying it always existed and hence no creator required. Thanks for playing 😉.

@bozo5632

10 ай бұрын

@@b.g.5869 That doesn't rule out a creator though. (I'm 500% sure that "a creator" is a completely typically human invention for which there is no evidence, and there's no legitimate reason to even propose such a thing, but it's hard/impossible to disprove.)

God's Spiritual World or Heaven, that has no beginning and no end, has always existed before the creation of the Cosmos... ... the Cosmos was created to allow God's lost children (who fell from Heaven for losing faith) to have a temporary place to dwell so to have a chance to return Home through regaining this faith...

@kos-mos1127

10 ай бұрын

What is this nonsense. The Cosmos is infinite in space and time.

You can't prove I have a PhD. Because I don't have.

These guys never give a straight answer even if speculative