If you want to hear some of my other videos where I sing in Latin & Greek, I have quite a few videos on my other channel ScorpioMartianus: kzread.info/head/PLU1WuLg45SiyoKYbbV5HS1pRFPimS_A6T 🎶

@Philoglossos

3 жыл бұрын

@Gvn Skw Ancient Macedonian was either a dialect of Greek or a closely related 'Hellenic' language. Either way, in Macedon the written language was Greek and the upper classes spoke Attic Greek, which is the language that Alexander spread across his empire. We know almost no details about the Macedonian language/dialect, so it is safe to say that the incongruencies here with what we know about ancient Greek have nothing to do with Alexander having been Macedonian.

@katiallo3675

3 жыл бұрын

I live in Greece and specifically in Macedonia you know Macedonia is a province in Greece .Don't mistake Northern Macedonia it's a new name for another country formal F.I.R.O.M

@ismanuevo3832

3 жыл бұрын

sorry Luke i must to tell you i'm sure that this guy is not a spaniard, becouse i'm a spaniard and my pronunciation is not precisly like that, we pronounce the word θεός very diferently, we pronounce the "θ" letter, like the "th" of "with" .further we pronounce the letter "φ" like "f" and the letter "χ" like the spanish "J" wich does not exist in english and sounds almost like the germanic "ch". I mention that becouse in all spanish universities and greek learning books uses this phonetics so i don't think he is a spaniard.

@Philoglossos

3 жыл бұрын

@Gvn Skw I think you're sort of missing the point - of course Macedon was looked down upon by the rest of Greece, and that included the way in which Macedonians speak Greek, but fundamentally what we find is that 1) There are no references to a distinct Macedonian language 2) Macedonians in Macedon exclusively wrote in Greek 3) Greek had great dialectic diversity, so it would be no surprise for a particularly divergent dialect, on the verge of being mutually unintelligible to other Greek speakers, would be looked down upon It's a bit like asking the question 'do Norwegians and Swedes speak the same language?' It really depends more on how you're defining 'language' than it depends on the actual linguistic reality.

@Philoglossos

3 жыл бұрын

@Gvn Skw *I am going to push back on this a little...no one says that that Swedish and Norwegian are the same language. ;o)* You're missing the point here - the reason that nobody says Swedish and Norwegian are one language is precisely because of the political situation - your comparisons to French/Italian/Spanish demonstrate, I think, a lack of familiarity with these languages - in terms of lexical distance, Swedish and Norwegian are about 40% closer than Spanish and Portuguese, which are the two most similar of the major romance languages (89% lexical similarity vs ~93% lexical similarity). Furthermore, while Spanish and Portuguese have major pronunciation differences rendering mutual intelligibility somewhat lopsided, there is no such major difference in pronunciation between Swedish and Norwegian If these languages were spoken in one country today, they would almost certainly be considered varieties of one language, especially considering that within each country there exist 'dialects' that are more distinct from ether national language than either of them are to one another. Whether we call Macedonian a language or a dialect of Greek doesn't really matter - the best evidence we have suggest that it was a speech variety extremely similar to other varieties of 'Greek'. In either case, Alexander's relationship to Attic would have been that of a speaker of an extremely similar speech variety learning the language from childhood from his teachers. For all intents and purposes he would have been a native Attic speaker, in the same way that if you take a Swede and have him spend massive amounts of time with a Norwegian tutor with whom he is expected to exclusively speak Norwegian, he will acquire that language (or dialect) natively. A very good example of this today is Cypriots. Cypriots speak a 'dialect' that is arguably more distant from Demotic Greek than Norwegian and Swedish (that is, Greeks have a very hard time understanding Cypriot), but they use Demotic in school and in writing, and all Greeks would consider them to be native speakers of 'Greek'. *As I have posted in my other comments a few examples...yes...we do have references of Greeks themselves saying the Makedonian was a different language from Greek.* My understanding is that this is not correct. Can you name such a source/quote one for me? The only Classical sources on the manner I can find seem to consider Macedonians to be Greek speakers: "Among the references that have been discussed as possibly bearing some witness to the linguistic situation in Macedonia, there is a sentence from a fragmentary dialogue, apparently between an Athenian and a Macedonian, in an extant fragment of the 5th century BC comedy 'Macedonians' by the Athenian poet Strattis (fr. 28), where a stranger is portrayed as speaking in a rural Greek dialect. His language contains expressions such as ὕμμες ὡττικοί for ὑμεὶς ἀττικοί "you Athenians", ὕμμες being also attested in Homer, Sappho (Lesbian) and Theocritus (Doric), while ὡττικοί appears only in "funny country bumpkin" contexts of Attic comedy.[67] Another text that has been quoted as evidence is a passage from Livy (lived 59 BC-14 AD) in his Ab urbe condita (31.29). Describing political negotiations between Macedonians and Aetolians in the late 3rd century BC, Livy has a Macedonian ambassador argue that Aetolians, Acarnanians and Macedonians were "men of the same language".[68] This has been interpreted as referring to a shared North-West Greek speech (as opposed to Attic Koiné).[69] In another passage, Livy states that an announcement was translated from Latin to Greek for Macedonians to understand.[70] Quintus Curtius Rufus, Philotas's trial[71] and the statement that the Greek-speaking Branchidae had common language with the Macedonians.[72]" If you provide me some contrary sources I would be happy to consider them! :-)

That singing was unexpected and beautiful.

@FloydRinehart

3 жыл бұрын

Also a fan of Henry VIII’s new intro music

@eliasstenman3710

3 жыл бұрын

@@FloydRinehart Truly fitting

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I did a video of it in three different pronunciations on my other channel ScorpioMartianus

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

@@FloydRinehart I also think Paul Simon should be the official minstrel of King Henry's court

@tamara3984

3 жыл бұрын

Still on the ads, but looking forward to it

Videogame: containes any trace of greek and latin. Luke: IS THE PRONUNCIATION GOOD???

@williamjordan5554

3 жыл бұрын

Makes no sense

@xano2921

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamjordan5554 what?

@williamjordan5554

2 жыл бұрын

@@xano2921 The first sentence.

@cataclysm7256

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamjordan5554 other than a typo, i see nothing wrong with it

Honestly, I am just impressed they tried to do the reconstructed Greek pronunciation. Just the fact that they were willing to go through the effort to do that is extremely impressive, even if it isn't perfect

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@christoforospaphitis4090

2 жыл бұрын

unfortunately it's a very long way from perfect. As a Greek Cypriot I can tell easily this is not how it was meant to sound. Still glad to see the ancient Greek language kept alive through video games though

@stevebbkny2394

Жыл бұрын

@@polyMATHY_Luke Luca I’m surprised you’re not hired on a regular basis for movie and other productions requiring your services.

@christoforospaphitis4090

Жыл бұрын

@@mariamichailidou5375 δυστυχώς δεν μπορώ να πω ότι γνωρίζω αρχαία αν και στην κυπριακή διάλεκτο ακόμη χρησιμοποιούμε αρκετές λέξεις, εκφράσεις και ιδιώματα στην αρχαία Ελληνική

@christoforospaphitis4090

Жыл бұрын

@@mariamichailidou5375 τουλάχιστον την εποχή που ειμουν σχολείο κάναμε αρχαία Ελληνικά για 2 ή 3 χρόνια μια η 2 περιόδους την βδομάδα. Δεν ειμουν πότε καλός στα φιλολογικά μαθήματα τότε καθώς τα έβρισκα ανιαρά. Εν τούτοις η κυπριακή έχει κάποια έφεση προς τα αρχαία σε ορισμένες περιπτώσεις

I originally only subbed to see you talk about Civ 6 Trajan’s Roman, but now I can’t stop binging this channel despite having never studied either Latin or Greek

@eliasstenman3710

3 жыл бұрын

Memtoo

@sebastiangudino9377

3 жыл бұрын

I guess you now have to learn Latin, sorry, it's the rule, get that "Familia Romana" ready

@omegacardboard5834

3 жыл бұрын

Well it's now inevitable that you will buy LLPSI and start learning Latin. Then Ancient Greek. And before you know it you will be reading Latin literature and reciting Latin Poetry

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

How flattering! Thanks

@xyber3583

3 жыл бұрын

Same lol

Thank you for singing the "Σείκιλου στήλη" so beautifully.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Very kind! It's one of my favorites.

@Brandon55638

2 ай бұрын

​@@polyMATHY_Luke Mine too.

Έχεις τον θαυμασμό μου και τον σεβασμό μου και για το έργο σου και για εσένα προσωπικά. Ο Θεός μαζί σου

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Ευχαριστώ

Bear in mind that the representations of each civilization in the game, including everything from their visual and sound design to their unique units and buildings, are meant to be more of an amalgamation of their overall culture and history, not just one specific period. Hence the use of music which is several centuries removed from Alexander the Great. Similarly, the US has George Washington as a leader while their unique unit is a WW2 bomber, and France is led by Napoleon, despite employing Ancien Regime Musketeers and Cancan music from 1858.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Heh sure, I just wanted to use the Paul Simon song because it's been stuck in my head all week.

You would be a great voice actor. Your voice is so soothing

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I have an audiobooks store: LukeRanieri.com I do some character acting in it, like for Amphitryo.

Just to clarify, the voice actors are actually Canadian linguists.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Sometimes. I looked him up and he seems Spanish.

@jrj6285

3 жыл бұрын

@@alban.dano.93 that's possible

@Veronica-zz7bp

3 жыл бұрын

Iirc, the voice actor is listed as Greek in the Wiki of the game.

@oNikolaos

3 жыл бұрын

@@Veronica-zz7bp Greeks that live outside Greece and Cyprus sound funny when trying to use Standard Modern Greek Νεοελληνική Κοινή.

@tadesubaru1383

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheTsannel nah dude that's such an Italian sounding name. I can assure you nothing about that name is Spanish

Ancient Greeks were musical masters. The origin of Western-style chromatic music theory supposedly comes from them. It’s fitting that the Epitaph of Seikilos still survives to this day.

@hash-CCFF00

2 жыл бұрын

Yet Macedonians weren't Greek. imagine that😱😳😱😳

@nikosmihalo4706

2 жыл бұрын

@@hash-CCFF00 hm yes like thessalians, spartans is not Greek is slavs like makedonians... makedonians they came in balkan 6 century ac alexander he lived in arrive of slavs and is slav like you say and talk slavic language with today name makedonja he moved in persia in 8 or 10 century a.c is is immortal like hailander and fight with persian and mongols of jenkins khan that is the truth

@skenderbegshala3247

2 жыл бұрын

@Konstantin Trehagyrevopoulos "ALBANIANS came to the region from Albania-kaukasus 1200 A.D" Bullshit. Albanians lived for thousands of years in the Balkans. Your Caucasus theory was busted a long time ago. Stop this nonsense

@slizzysluzzer

2 жыл бұрын

@Konstantin Trehagyrevopoulos If you have to schizospam, you already failed.

@tatjanavelkova5814

Ай бұрын

MACEDONIANS 25 CENTURIES speak Macedonian language ! ! ! ! !

Brilliant video!! Loooool. We love Alexander, his history, his story, his vision, his ORIGIN 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷❤❤

@hash-CCFF00

2 жыл бұрын

haghaghaghahahahahahahh

@bruderschweigen6889

2 жыл бұрын

BuT!?! Hes slavic?

@diamantis9436

Жыл бұрын

@@bruderschweigen6889 Yes, also Genghis Khan was Native American and Stephen Hawking was Tanzanian

@adamspice9076

9 ай бұрын

he is macedonian bro

@nickd6388

8 ай бұрын

@@adamspice9076 yes Greek ...

That was painful, but at least he was marked as Greek...

@hash-CCFF00

2 жыл бұрын

yeah they didn't even get that right🥺

@taxiarchiskalyvas8198

2 жыл бұрын

@@hash-CCFF00 As you can see there is no worrh trying to change history by answering to the whole comments section... Just accept your propaganda as your own and get the duck out of history videos

@decimusausoniusmagnus5719

2 жыл бұрын

Alexander was an Albanian

@StergiosMekras

2 жыл бұрын

@@decimusausoniusmagnus5719 If by that you mean that his was mother had ancestors among the Illyrians, you could potentially be right, but that's a far cry from calling him Albanian.

@taxiarchiskalyvas8198

2 жыл бұрын

@@StergiosMekras why not Bulgarian?

Great video, thanks for sharing. Ευχαριστούμε. As far as I remember from the High School courses in Ancient Greek, in the northern Greek dialects, especially the Macedonian one, phi (φ) was pronounced as vi (β). It was Vilippos instead of Philippos, Verenike instead of Ferenike. This phenomenon has survived in some toponyms in Northern Greece. The name of the canyon in my area, Halkidiki, is viraggas. The ancient name is faranx (φάραγξ), and in genitive case was "tou faraggos".

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Interesting varieties. Here we assume Aristotle was a good teacher of Attic hehe

@angelo15578

2 жыл бұрын

Ου ενδιαφέρον !

I'm Italian, I studied Greek in high school and your explanations are spot on. You really know what you're talking about, great video!

Χάριν σοι καί πάλιν ἔχομεν, ὦ φίλτατε Λούκιε!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Χάριν καὶ σοί, ὦ φίλε!

Come on Luke why you gotta make me want to learn ancient Greek now

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Search for Ancient Greek in Action on KZread

@Negs42

2 жыл бұрын

@@polyMATHY_Luke heyo Luke, any tips on how to start learning ancient Greek?

Roman citizen DESTROYS greek impostor with FACTS and LOGIC!! Jokes aside as always great video, I never know about the Epitaph of Seikilos and I'm absolutely amazed by it's musicality, for some reason I always thought of ancient music as being monotone and flat sounding

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed! Ancient Greco-Roman music seems to be very much like more recent melodic patterns in Europe.

@KostisP83

3 жыл бұрын

Me as a Greek I don't feel destructed. Why to feel? His approach to pronunciation is GREAT. As a native Greek speaker too I can tell for sure that Lucian pronunciation is by far the best try I have ever listen to. It is also really not that far by modern greek one. Sounds like a Noble Greek form of language. Thanks to Luke about his work over our language. I wish I was able to support his work somehow.

@poppycalliope6793

2 жыл бұрын

@@aokiaoki4238 love Byzantine chants

The 18 dislikes must’ve been from skopianoi! 🤣

I wish to have a show one day like "Rome" (HBO) with full Latin. Or series about Alexander in Greek (ancient greek if possible). I hope that one day something like this will be real.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Search YT for "Interview with the Legionary"

@saiien2

3 жыл бұрын

@@polyMATHY_Luke Already saw it. Very good :D

@TheKennethfilm

3 жыл бұрын

That would be awesome but certainly would put more hardwork for the actors. They need to show emotions for an incomprehensible language scripts they need to completely memorize. It might work with the aid of an translation and guides where to put the necessary emotions and stuffs.

@marakigr9822

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheKennethfilm or they can...hire Greeks? For the greek one I mean.. Besides in a show that has greek features and language,people from Greece would also look the part too,apart from being able to speak the language! Ps: I know most Greeks don't speak ancient Greek but it's not hard for us to learn if it's a script or something 😅

@TheKennethfilm

3 жыл бұрын

@@marakigr9822 My perspective was from a native English speaker. That would definitely work same goes for Italian with Latin. I doubt being a English speaker would do any good with old English without training.

LOL The way you lead into that king Henry joke was really amusing 👏🏻👏🏻

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

🤴🏼

Τέλεια.. I'm using all the subtitles to learn this great language

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Craig!

Πολύ ωραίο βίντεο. Συνέχισε έτσι!🤗🇬🇷

Dude! Your videos make me wanna start learning Latin and Greek lol. Maybe Latin first before Greek. I kinda got used to reading Latin already without the vowel length, until I started watching your channel, so I had to re-learn all the Latin words I know in a way lol.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! This will help LLPSI link kzread.info/head/PLU1WuLg45SiyrXahjvFahDuA060P487pV

You know there’s Ancient Greek in assassins creed origins too! Head to Alexandria and listen to scholars argue in the library.

@jeton9153

3 жыл бұрын

Εμένα μαρεσει που στο παιχνίδι λένε το μαλακα συνεχώς 😂

@geokon3

2 жыл бұрын

In Assasin's Creed they use Greek voice actors so the pronunciation is more accurate

@angelo15578

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeton9153 that's amazing I gotta play it now

@magg0t_zz

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeton9153 ναι!!😂😂

@magg0t_zz

2 жыл бұрын

@@geokon3 they're greek?

Very good👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I’m hear to see how you will answer to Skopjans that will get mad when they will see that a man says that Alexander was speaking Greek!

@fallennarcotic6981

3 жыл бұрын

Ηδη προσπαθουσαν στα σχολια να λενε οτι η μακεδονια δεν ηταν ελληνικη. Ομως του εγραψα και τα εσβησε μαλλον. Ο Λουκιανος σεβεται τους ελληνες και την ηστορια τους. Να ζησει

@Kolious_Thrace

3 жыл бұрын

@@fallennarcotic6981 να ‘ναι καλά το παιδί!

@c.k.2405

3 жыл бұрын

I live in the US... Most Americans I talk to know Alexander the Great was Greek as where the Macedonians. In my experience its only the most uneducated who believe the Skopje/Vardaska propaganda. These people Skopje are Bulgarians and Albanians. They have no connection to Alexander or the ancient Greek people and the WHOLE WORLD KNOWS IT.

@Kolious_Thrace

3 жыл бұрын

@@c.k.2405 thank God! I hope that there are no people in the world that can be convinced by Skopjans 🙏🏻💪🏻

@fallennarcotic6981

3 жыл бұрын

@@c.k.2405 the ancient greek salad? :D

Paul Simon, lol, hilarious. The deeper cut would be Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes.

Αλέξανδρος ειμί ..... Αλέξανδρος ειμί ... Εκγονός (εγγονός) των θεών .... When Alexander was somehow rapping 😅 Πολυμαθή you rock👌

Your voice is so calm and stable it calms my soul , great video !

Salvē! Happy to see another of these!

Love these videos! I'm hoping to see one on the Greek in Assassin's Creed: Odyssey. I've been playing it a lot recently, and some of the pronunciation for place/people names has been...annoying. But I'm not as good with my 5th century BC Greek, so I'd love to hear your thoughts.

Yeah, he did it! He reviewed the Greek. I really, truly love it! 🎉🥳 By the way, you've got a superb, low register voice! That singing was perfect!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Very kind, Μιχαηλ! Ευχαριστω

Amazing as always !!!

άριστον έργον, φίλε.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Χάριν σοι ἔχω

@landofw56

3 жыл бұрын

@@polyMATHY_Luke εἶ ἄριστος παιδαγωγός.

… and you are singing too?! That’s the final straw, I’m divorcing.

God bless you, Luke! You’ve just revived an epitaph that will now see the light of day in many necropolises around the orbis!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

I do like that song a lot.

I always find these videos so interesting, thank you for making them!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

this is one of the most random channels that I grew to like so much

Fantastic

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I love your avatar. I'm a big TNG fan.

I found this channel after your podcast you just did with Jackson Crawford and I’ve since become a huge fan, love the videos, keep up the excellent work!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Very kind of you! Thanks and welcome

You have a great voice. That song is gonna be one of my favorites now.

@polyMATHY_Luke

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

You sang that song really beautiful *_* My Adoration!

Pitch accent are wonderful but tricky things indeed. As a native Swedish speaker, I find that most other native speakers know instinctively when a word has the wrong accent, but they can seldom put their finger on why.

Thank you for one more amazing video!!

It was truly an amazing video, kudos (heh, Greek) to you but i would like to make one correction. The civ themes in civ 5 and civ 6 are not intended to represent the ruler, they are intended to represent the civilization. For example Civ 5 Spain's theme is Ay Carmela, a spanish civil war song, despite being represented by Isabella I, a medieval queen. Here (ancient, as opposed to Modern or Byzantine) Greece is represented by the earliest song remaining from an era, and in fact due to its iconicness, it is the only piece of music to be used as a basis for a main civ theme in civ 5 and civ 6 (where Gorgo and Pericles are Greek leaders). While civ themes may have a nod to the leaders (Shaka Zulu and Zulu medieval theme and Queen Tamar and the Georgian themes in Civ 6 come to mind) they do not have to be related to them or even be from the same time period as them they just have to be related to that civilization as a whole

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely, and I don't fault the game makers for various non-historical things since their game isn't a history lesson. I just use these scenes as opportunities to teach.

Dear Luke Despite a couple of slight minor pronunciation mistakes Greeks we respect you to the maximum for your huge contribution to our heritage and language Χαίρε Ω Πολυμαθή

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Ευχαριστώ. I don’t make any pronunciation mistakes with the reconstructed ancient pronunciation I use. If you’re talking about the times I speak Modern Greek, then I am grateful for your patience as I am still learning your beautiful language.

As for my knowledge, in daily speech ancient Macedonians were often pronouncing voiced and unaspirated β, γ, δ instead of usual Greek φ, χ , θ as well as they maintened in many cases the long Doric 'α' where the Ionians had 'η' (they spoke Βερενίκα instead of Φερενίκη and even Βίλιππος instead of Φίλιππος), so if the creators of the game had wanted it to sound more locally, typically Macedonian, they could have also made it that way :) Χαιρετισμοί από την Ελληνική Μακεδονία και απ' την Πολωνία

luke!!! i learn so much from your videos.

Very good work Luke!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I love your videos!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

So only Basil II from Civ VI left. Can't wait for his video!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Actually a lot more, like Pericles, and Alexander from VI.

@tiszert14

3 жыл бұрын

@@polyMATHY_Luke oh, you're right. I totally forgot there are other greek speakers in the game

And a song as a bonus! Fascinating to hear a composition from that long ago.

2:20 That's why the Calabrese people pronounce those letter that way!!! So interesting :D thanks Luke

0:45 Miklos Rozsa and Basil Poledouris used similar music for their scores for Ben Hur and Conan the Barbarian

Luke, you blow me away with the depth of your linguistic knowledge and the ease and clarity of your explanations. Thank you! ευχαριστώ

@tamara3984

3 жыл бұрын

He is amazing

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Very kind of you, Richard! Εὐχαριστῶ σοι!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

You are too, Tamara!

Thanks for video bro

You are doing a great job! Greetings from Greece!!

Super intéressant ! Mille mercis ! Bisous from Alsace 😁😘🤗

thanks! Very intersting, By the way Cypriot Greek has the 'sh' and 'tsch' sounds

@andreastheo2019

2 жыл бұрын

Yes “sh” isn’t Greek sound but or “ch” like in Crete I’m from Cyprus too

@angelo15578

2 жыл бұрын

I love that accent so much! Πολύ μ'αρέσει η προφορά της Κύπρος

Ah yes, that was some nice reconstruction mmmmmm. Thanks for uploading Luke, great stuff as always!

Impressive video! Subscribed!

@polyMATHY_Luke

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Such a fun video, I would love to watch more about the pitch accent of ancient Greek, it's a pity so many languages lose their pitch accents and gain stress accents, it happened with Sanskrit too

Are you Greek? Because your pronunciation is very good.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Είμαι αμερικανός. Ευχαριστώ!

Most interesting channel ever! Good job as always 😊

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Too kind! Thanks so much.

Thank you ser... great video !

Just so you know he was greek . There is a region in Greece called Macedonia witch is older than the country "North Macedonia".

@dansie8320

2 жыл бұрын

Sir i would like to agree with u but the haplogroups n DNA shows we r older than the Greeks that today occupy their land.If you dont believe i can provide u with tons of evidences.The Greek invaded and hellenized our culture (Vincan culture) even their alphabet is based on Vincan 5000-7000BC. Thats way prior Hellenic tribes arrival in the area.

@temosofthecommunistrepubli2637

2 жыл бұрын

@@dansie8320 sure budy

@temosofthecommunistrepubli2637

2 жыл бұрын

@@dansie8320 you are slavs . The slavs settled in the Balkans in the 6th century AD . The greeks settled in the Balkans and in the Aegean sea in a about 2500BC

@dansie8320

2 жыл бұрын

@@temosofthecommunistrepubli2637 we r not slavs only sir.Pls look at our haplo groups.Vincans r older than Greeks and r native.Our langauge still has old words that Greeks modified it and use it today.Pls compare Vincan Alphabet with Greek and resemblance is present.The Slav agenda is a fraud.Anyhow i will provie you some links so if you have spare time you can go thru.The subs are in English.

@dansie8320

2 жыл бұрын

This is true the Romans expanded the area of Macedonia including todays North Macedonia and east Bulgaria.Only south west part of todays North Macedonia belonged to the Kingdom of Macedon.Current land of North Macedonia was known as Paeonia back then.

Το καλύτερο κανάλι στο KZread! Ευχαριστούμε!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Ευχαριστώ πολύ!

Since part of my interest in languages started because of games (Civ 5 included), I'm loving this series! :D

Alexander would have appreciated the lyric's acknowledgement of the ephemerality of life and be impressed the author's attempt to immortalize his lover in music and in stone. I would say that the choice of music is close enough for the Makedon.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely! I also think Henry VIII would love Paul Simon, as we all do.

@TOBAPNW_

3 жыл бұрын

@@polyMATHY_Luke no doubt. He was even an esteemed composer of music himself

Even though i despised learning ancient greek back in my highschool years,since i had an incline towards stem education, i've grown to love your channel! I've been watching your videos for the past 7 months and haven't skipped a minute of content so far. You sir deserve a bigger community.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

That’s very kind! Thanks so much for being a fan. I’m also STEM educated, and I’ll be doing science topics in 2022.

@HarosOfStyx

2 жыл бұрын

If you learned original first, simplified Greek would be a piece of cake.

Μπράβο Λούκιε , όσα λες είναι σωστά. Η αρχαία ελληνική γλώσσα είναι αρκετά δύσκολη που ούτε εμείς οι Έλληνες την κατανοούμε πλήρως , κάνεις εξαιρετική δουλειά στο να εξηγείς στον κόσμο πως μιλούσαν οι αρχαίοι Έλληνες .

Great one mate! Keep it up! I'd also love to watch a video when you explain why "Μολών λαβέ" (what Leonidas supposedly said to Persians, according to Plutarch) doesn't simply mean "come and get them".

It would be really cool to analize the For Honor knight's latin speaking, I think they use a mixture of eclesiastical and classical latin

From the way the voice actor delivers the line, I always figured the "mentoi" was set apart from the rest of it, as in, "Mentoi?" I thought maybe it meant "Seriously?", though I admit to my English-speaking brain it sounded like he was saying, "Are you mental?" 🤣

@caesar2514

2 жыл бұрын

There could be an etymological connection; mens in Latin means "mind," so there could be a word in PIE that both mentoi and mens originated from.

@anniath4245

Жыл бұрын

@@caesar2514 it is two words μεν + τοι and sometimes it means something like "but" or "for sure" .

Perfect video! Bravo 🇬🇷

This dude is so captivating. I can't stop watching

I was wondering if you could make a video about the lost greek letters like digamma and koppa ?

Can't wait to see how Civ6's Alexander holds up

Oh I understood a few words Alexander said. I got the gist of it!!! I am so chuffed about this!! Beautiful language.

Loved it :)

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Your amazing 👏🏼

Good lord! This stuff is amazing!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Much more on this channel like this.

@stuffandnonsense8528

3 жыл бұрын

@@polyMATHY_Luke yes, thank you, I've been exploring it bit by bit. At first I had thought it was a solely Latin orientated project, and whilst that delighted me, I am chiefly a Hellenist (for some people Latin still seems like a barbaric language... I jest). But the Greek is beautiful and such a relief from the stilted, English and American pronunciations which abound. It's not as if I am an expert (most of my Greek has deteriorated to nothing through lack of use), but I love to hear it, and hear it being talked about... And Latin too I suppose. Also, the general love of and proficiency in languages is always a joy to behold.

your knowledge is legendary . Your The true big brain . Respect x

Bravo, bravissimo! Da capo! Da ca-a-apo!

Your accent is very good for a non Greek.Anyway modern Greek are just simplified ancient Greek and not another language as Italian and Latin..I salute you fro Greece

Είσαι άρχοντας

That music is also used a lot in Civ VI

Thanks! You did my and suggestion so soon! (even though you would've probably done it at some point in any case)

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I got to it! More to come

POV: You are scanning the comments for people saying Alexander wasn't Greek

@TrueMakedonia

2 жыл бұрын

There are people who think he wasn't Greek? Don't listen to people who don't know history

@tatjanavelkova5814

Ай бұрын

ALEXANDER THE GREAT and FILIP --- MACEDONIANS. before 25 centuries FILIP KING ON MAKEDONIJA, ALEXANDER TSAR ON MAKEDONIJA ! ! !

Τα βίντεο σου είναι τέλεια!Μακάρι να σε έβλεπα όταν ήμουν μαθητής .

Great video as always! I know it’s not related to Greek or Latin stuff, but I recently found that Civilization 6’s dialogue for Chinggis Khan (or “Gengis Khan” in the US) is in Inner Mongolian rather than Mongolian. What is more strange to me is that they got it correct with Civilization 5. Wondering if anyone else had noticed this, or knows about why this change happened.

Gratias tibi for this video :)

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Libenter!

I loved the song you sang! It was as if you time traveled from those ages.

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I'm Greek and I hate that you were not my teacher during high school or maybe I hate that our teachers suck! I love your chanel and your videos!

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Ευχαριστώ!

Hi Luke and thank you for your answer. It seems I have a new topic to muse over during my day, it is the Latin language and the ancient times. And well, it is because of your channel. Well done! I was wondering what caused the Latin language to go out of use, so it is not any more a spoken one today (of course it formed the Romance language family), while the Greek language survived and it is spoken today in an "updated "form, but on the other hand without forming a family like the Latin one? Thank you and keep up the good work

@polyMATHY_Luke

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Latin is still spoken by tens of thousands of us today

2:07 we kinda got that in the movie A Knight's Tale ;)

The Epitaph is featured in his War Theme as well, so maybe a bit more appropriate? lol

They reuse that same tune for the Civ 6 Greek leaders but with different changes in tempos and arrangements through the later eras, still a very very beautiful song.

@Alfwin

3 жыл бұрын

I love the Civ 6 OST; hearing the arrangements of the song progress through the eras is so cool!

Genial! Muito Obrigado!

I love the Epitaph of Sekilos!