Just listen to the sound of that engine. The first time Tracy/Unser/Fittipaldi really got it up to full speed in practice, I bet there was more than a few people up and down pit road thinking "Yep, we're screwed."

That car/engine combination were unstoppable

@JGunit

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, too bad they banned it after this race. Bs

@Saturn185

3 жыл бұрын

@@JGunit that's not actually what happened, the engine itself stayed legal but the amount of boost allowed was reduced conciderably

@royb.1441

5 ай бұрын

@jordonwelle5877 yep, the team even said all that HP made up for a good amount of poor handling

Look at the crowd for qualifying. Man to go back to those days.

@ynp1978

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! I was there on opening day in 1988. About 200000 in the stands for qualifying!

@davidstout8604

Жыл бұрын

Yes, if only …

@Mario_Ramirez

Жыл бұрын

Well, Tony George "fiexed" it

This is a classic example of SANDBAGGING . That car was an absolute monster

@kg0173

Жыл бұрын

Not the car, the engine.

@robertsklenka5823

2 ай бұрын

Read the book “The Beast”

The sound of my childhood. Almost brought tears to my eyes remembering a more simple time!!

30 years later I still get goosebumps watching that run. Getting faster each lap.

@ernestmiller110

Жыл бұрын

The good old days!

Loved this era of AOWR, and the engine competition at Indy: The Ford XBs and the normal Ilmors almost screamed The Menards / Buicks emitted a low-pitched, powerful growl The Mercedes 500i, at 10,000rpm produced that gorgeous roar Fabulous.

@robminmonaca

4 жыл бұрын

Nathan Williams then tony George thought he was better than all the years of CART and fucked everything up.

@weofnjieofing

3 жыл бұрын

@@robminmonaca Totally agree. Tony George is the Devil incarnate. A series that could have potentially taken on F1 was destroyed by that moron. Indy Car still suffers today from his selfishness with spec chassis and boring, gutless V6 engines. Lets hope under Penske they can bring back high revving V8's and different chassis manufacturers. The current Dallara chassis looks terrible and severely dated.

@JohnOffroader1999

2 жыл бұрын

@@weofnjieofing The V8's won't be coming back but we can hope that innovation can comeback to Indycar racing.

THE BEAST!!! God, how I miss the days when the rules allowed for innovations and open interpretations. So glad I was able to enjoy it when it happened. Great memories.

@ernestmiller110

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@mailson4526

2 ай бұрын

Mercedes-Benz engine was a beast in deed.

Go back thru history. Nobody goes faster on each of four consecutive qualifying laps at Indy. Roger told Al to give the crowd a show and he obliged!

So beautiful !! All gone now.

I live in Reading PA Home of Penske Racing for over 30 years they built the engines in total secret next door in the Penske Plaza truck shop in a empty bay on Riverfront Drive man those were great days I miss Penske Racing

@lameduck3630

3 жыл бұрын

Penske have always been built in England.

@dzelpwr

3 жыл бұрын

Penske is still around, just not in Reading.

That was a pushrod engine, Penske found a loophole that allowed higher turbo boost if they used a stock block pushrod motor.

@warrenself

3 жыл бұрын

“Stock block” turned out to be a very grey area in the rule book.

@RedPetrol76

3 жыл бұрын

@@warrenself Yup, it was 100% purpose-built by Ilmor

@simoneburini4036

3 жыл бұрын

@@warrenself push rod engines could be bigger. Also, the "stock block" thing was removed from the rule book for the Indy 500. And they went for it.

@djmohab2

Жыл бұрын

They had quietly relaxed the "stock" part of the rule between 1993 and 1994, and Roger and Ilmor went bananas as a result

Whoo - I just got chills. :)

I was in the main grandstand that day, I remember the crowd going nuts.

@robminmonaca

4 жыл бұрын

Scott E then tony George killed off the competition at Indy with the IRL.

@davidstout8604

Жыл бұрын

@@robminmonaca Tony George was right, he just didn’t the know how.

It truly was the peak of the Indy 500..........After scotty died in 96. It was all over. All these men AND women had balls.

We were sitting above the flag tower and he just wasn't on it quick enough.The Mercedes was monstrously strong and when Lap 2 came in me and my Dad just looked at each other knowingly.......I think Al and Emmo WERE sandbagging that year in practice.

@kieferclarkf1674

Жыл бұрын

I thought he hit a bird on lap 1.

I was there in turn one . The reason the first lap was so slow was he ran over a rabbit, the fans gasped and that's the last I heard about it

@DJDouglasWarden

6 жыл бұрын

Terry Brock Silly rabbit, tracks are for cars.

Jade Gurss' book about these cars that Penske brought to Indy that year is a fantastic read if you get a chance. Just listen to the sound of that engine. It sounds like a plane ready to liftoff.

@gamblour

2 жыл бұрын

"Beast" is a fantastic book. Absolutely worth every minute.

This was the last Indy 500 I had an interest in from a technical standpoint. I went to qualifying that year just to see and hear the Ilmor 500i run. It was a unique mechanical creation built to take advantage of the higher boost pressure allowed for pushrod engines. Of course, the Speedway outlawed it for next year's race, but not immediately. Ilmor thought they would be able to run it again in 1995, and had manufactured about 30 new engines before the rules change was made. Wonder if I could find one of those engines and put it in my Camaro?

@kartracer127

5 жыл бұрын

For Next year? They outlawed right After First Training. They slowed them down like hell. They did 230+ in practise

@douglasgantt9548

4 жыл бұрын

No wonder why Penske couldn’t qualify in 1995.

@djmohab2

2 жыл бұрын

@@douglasgantt9548 They ran the DOHC Ilmor Mercedes...pushrod engine had nothing to do with it. Apparently they tried a different anti-roll bar configuration which worked at a Phoenix test or something but was liquid dogshit at the Speedway. Later in the year during a test they tried a more traditional configuration and would have easily been near the top of the field.

They were sand bagging that first lap, I don't think he meant to go that slow though. Those Penske cars had so much more power than the rest of the field that year. They were trying not to show just how much more. That car could compete today.

@VampireYoshi

4 жыл бұрын

That car would take the lead and pull away, today.

Hellva Run!!!!

behold...the beast!

I miss the good old days at TF, Ernest. You were one of my favorite posters. I'm not there anymore either. I hope all is well with you. RR

@bobhansen1322

11 ай бұрын

Thank you for the kind words Randy. Yes, the little dictators banned me. The good news? My blood pressure is way down! LOL

@randyjustrandy9937

11 ай бұрын

@@bobhansen1322 good to know you're a ok in OK. TF is a ghost town these days. They ran all the good people off. Serves them right.

Al Jr.fan. Yeah he’s never a qualifier but he’s a driver’s driver.

Penske C23 - Simply the beats

Those days were fun. It's not fun anymore.

@healthyone100

4 жыл бұрын

Penske owns IMS now things are going to change!

RIP Bob Jenkins

A great day in AOWR!

Noting snoring that engine Penske during qualifying, he by far somewhat resembles turbo current Indy. What do you think? Or is close to the IRL engines used between 2001 and 2007?

@effend446

5 жыл бұрын

I was actually thinking '01 - '11 minus the hiss of the turbocharger.

This run probably had the fastest trap speeds ever at Indy. Luyendyk was slower on straights, but much faster in turns (1996 record run).

little did anyone knew they sandbagged up to 250hp that day lol

To think they couldve even went faster with that fantastic (ilmore? Dont know if I spelled it right) and Mercedes engine. They were even sand bagging on pole day! From what I've heard, when they finally opened that engine up they were running almost 250 down the front and back straights

As I recall he hit a Bird on one of those laps.

Mercedes sounds good

Shame that first lap was so off. Guess he did it to make it interesting lol

Top speed was the parameter for pole ???

@precesionnoreaster1507

2 жыл бұрын

No average so they add together the turn entries and exits and then average it out to be a one lap and then they average all 4 laps together

Interesting saga this engine is surrounded by. An incredible technical achievement whose political ripples would grow into the wave that eventually split CART and IndyCar clean in two. Was it worth it, Roger? "Absolutely." - Roger Penske, probably.

@TheArfdog

Жыл бұрын

Leave it to pride to let a technical achievement become a political weapon resulting in the destruction of an American icon being Indycar series.

And a year later they failed to qualify…..

Indy car in 1994 was better than F1

the speed hasn't gotten faster...

@Jam5zW

6 жыл бұрын

Alex Fitzpatrick It did get faster but two years after this they changed the engine rules and slowed the cars down and made them safer after Scott Brayton died.

@VampireYoshi

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jam5zW They didn't do it because of Brayton, they had already planned it beforehand, for the second year of the IRL, to try to dumb the cars down and get everyone to drive far more similar, and thus far more similar performance, cars. The advent of 1997 was nothing less than the imposition of socialism on American open-wheel racing.

@robminmonaca

4 жыл бұрын

VampireYoshi tony George thought he was doing a charity mission to Indycar racing but he caused his family to nearly go bankrupt.

@V10ViperSRT

2 жыл бұрын

Fastest pole speed ever this year 234mph

The next year didn’t even make the race

This is car is very faster than Williams FW43

@armorgeddon

3 жыл бұрын

Only in topspeed.

@sametozkan9175

3 жыл бұрын

@@armorgeddon Penske needs to bring back Mercedes engines in IndyCar and Dodge in NASCAR

@armorgeddon

3 жыл бұрын

@@sametozkan9175 I don't care about NASCAR at all, but Mercedes back in Indycar is pretty unlikely though I'd like to see it, too.

@sametozkan9175

3 жыл бұрын

@@armorgeddon Ok then.

Imagine the first lap at 228+ MpH? average will be.

@maciekwysocki2009

2 жыл бұрын

Even close to 229 mph

then the next year he doesn't make the race!!

Buick/Menard still had more power......it wasn't until 95 l ola made customs parts to fit the Buick/Menard v6.....

@NeoGraena

3 жыл бұрын

Buicks were too unreliable

@nolancain8792

3 жыл бұрын

@@NeoGraena 1995 they seemingly figured it out with Arie.

@antonsmith7235

3 ай бұрын

the Buicks didn't have 1000 horsepower now that the book is out on "The Beast" they finally revealed the dyno numbers, it had 1084 Horsepower as compared to Indy Chevys and Cosworths 750. It was stated in the book Emo once said "I looked down the track after I got out of turn 4 and wasn't looking what "car" i wanted to pass next but what "group" or cars! You can do that when you have 330 horses more!

That's what happens when you are allowed to bend the rules 🤣

@ernestmiller110

Жыл бұрын

No rules were bent. Any owner could have done what Penske did.

@antonsmith7235

3 ай бұрын

Never "bent any rules" GM actually lobbyed to have the word "stock block" taken out of the rule book. That was the only change. They ran 209 cubic inches, and 55 inches of boost instead of 45 for the Double Overhead Cam engines

these were real race cars. not like the formula 1 cars these day with their toy engines and electric driving aids wherever you look.

@Thraser999

5 жыл бұрын

Electric driving aids? are mad or what? TC was banned 11 years ago, and toy engines? seriously? because making 1000 HP is just from a toy, isn't it?

@fgm1197

5 жыл бұрын

@@Thraser999 1000 HP so what? I'm talking about cubic capacity. the average station wagon has more torque than a formula one car.

@mickoholland1

4 жыл бұрын

FGM11 that’s exactly what people said about the PC23 in 94, yearning for roadsters, flatbottom cars etc etc. Racing should always be about the cutting edge.

@armorgeddon

3 жыл бұрын

@@mickoholland1 Yes, though current F1 is far from cutting edge. All current race cars are sadly.

1994 was when this car cheated. It was a Mercedes 12 cylinder 1100 HP, specially made for the race.

@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X

8 жыл бұрын

Wrong: It was a V8 with a single camshaft. A loophole in the regulations (of the Indy 500, not the CART series) allowed engines with that layout greater displacement and higher boost. Penske did not cheat, they simply build the best engine allowed under the 1994 Indy 500 regulations.

@zlinedavid

8 жыл бұрын

Cheated? Not hardly. Everything Penske and Ilmor did were 100% within the rules that USAC made. John Menard (who has a net worth nearly 7 times that of Roger Penske) could have easily done the same thing, but Penske beat him and everyone else to it, and did it flawlessly.

@indyfan2

8 жыл бұрын

This was a V8 pushrod engine.

@CFster

7 жыл бұрын

They didn't cheat but they screwed themselves for the following year. Because this car had so much power they really didn't have to focus on making it handle and turn like the rest of the teams. As a result, after the rules change forcing them to use a regular engine for the '95 500 they couldn't even qualify a car for the race. They didn't have any development in the chassis. Remember, Penske had its own chassis, unlike the rest of the field with their Lolas. It was sad - they didn't qualify a single car the following year...

@SwineBrothers

7 жыл бұрын

no it wasn't. stop being an idiot