I did my Old Babylonian during 2021 - 22 and found it very interesting and graspable. It opened up many Semitic details I'd not learned eleven years earlier in my Biblical Hebrew studies, which I promptly took up again and learned the logic and basics of immediately after the course. It was so much easier than Akkadian, suddenly. This spring, March to April 2023, I had courses on colloquial Neo Assyrian letters and Late Babylonian contracts, and oh boy. "I'll just take two nice text courses", I thought, "it'll be fine, I'm sure!" It wasn't fine. 6 hrs of lectures and 40 hrs of translating _pro_ week, for six weeks straight, made me doubt my convictions of "loving ancient West Asian / Near Eastern languages". It also made clear my need of practice, a great need of practice. So thanks for these videos! They seem to be nicely bite sized, although I rarely say no to an actual lecture - even to my detriment, it seems.

@ProfessorMichaelWingert

9 ай бұрын

Feels like choosing to learn Latin first, then jumping into Spanish, French, Italian, etc. Any suggestion what would be a good language learning order for Semitic languages based on your own experience?

@katathoombz

9 ай бұрын

@@ProfessorMichaelWingert I'd say Old Babylonian first - although this is from someone who enlisted on his first Arabic course just earlier today. I really didn't get Hebrew at first because it's so different from the Indo-European languages, although I could read it; I hadn't really realised _how_ different the Semitic languages are. Some of the essential benefits of OB for a n00b are that the case endings are still there (eg. makes _st. cstr._ a bit more understandable) and one does not have to learn a new script to delve into the grammar. One may get a good sense of the stem system in a visually familiar setting, although the root system isn't represented as intuitively as in consonantal script (oh wait, the cuneiform do not employ the _mere consonants_ idea anyway, do they now), and when one goes on to languages with later scripts the genius of the consonant writing becomes obvious. I did enjoy learning the cuneiform system on OB1 and OB2, though, and see the benefits of learning some of the signs while on those courses. There's a sense of accomplishment when one can read the _stela_ of CH themselves. I can see the benefits of both teaching and not teaching the signs on OB1&2. On the other languages next Hebrew & Aramaic for the ease of _corpus_ and the breadth of linguistic culture, then Syriac after Aramaic. Throw some Arabic there somewhere and stay far from Ge'ez script for one's sanity, if possible :'D the other forms of Akkadian as they become possible to take up.

Akkadian looks fun. I didn’t realize how similar it is to Hebrew.

@ProfessorMichaelWingert

8 ай бұрын

And if you've studied Hebrew first, it makes learning Akkadian a lot easier.

@kkKey-py7lk

15 күн бұрын

Ibrahim son Sargon akkidin king of akkidin

@user-nu4ee8fl1o

9 күн бұрын

I’m a hweb and it looks nothing like he heard to me, but it definitely sounds like Hebrew

Hi. Great series. Some feedbaks. Shanoo is also means in hebrew to repeat text, mishna, leshanen; to know by heart. In hebrew its called by mouth. Be-al-pe

Ty for putting out this video. I happen to know ancient Hebrew and Aramaic this is very interesting!

Excellent. Im enjoying your videos immensely. Theyre short but to the point. Well done.

@ProfessorMichaelWingert

8 ай бұрын

Glad you like them!

As a native Arabic speaker, I really appreciate your videos! Do you think the word for chair in Arabic “kursee” share the same root with Akkadian and Hebrew? And in Quran the word ba’al بعل mentioned in the feminine plural forms بعولتهن to mean “their husbands”. The ebed in Hebrew corresponds with Abid عبد in Arabic. Looking forward for more videos!

@ProfessorMichaelWingert

Жыл бұрын

Shukran jazilan le-kalemateka al-jamila. Yes, I would argue that kursee (cognate with Aramaic kursyā) is directly related to what we see in Akkadian and Hebrew. Thanks again!

@sufian6553

Жыл бұрын

@@ProfessorMichaelWingert ʿafwan!

This channel is amazing

@ProfessorMichaelWingert

Ай бұрын

Many thanks!

Very nice video!! To be fair though... Husband in English means master of the house.. not much better. 🙂

@ProfessorMichaelWingert

Жыл бұрын

😅 Haha good point!

Thank you Prof.

@ProfessorMichaelWingert

Жыл бұрын

You are very welcome. Thank you for watching.

@AgapeOTsion

Жыл бұрын

I would love to watch your video comparing classic ethiopic vs akkadian /hebrew :) .@@ProfessorMichaelWingert

@ProfessorMichaelWingert

Жыл бұрын

@@AgapeOTsion I am planning on putting that one together. If you also follow @POAAS Henok Elias, I will be making an appearance on his podcast to do some more Akkadian.

I think I would translate the Hebrew with cognates at the beginning as: "Im ganab awil Ben awil sa'ir yudak" It feels more true to the meaning, and it sounds closer.

Thanks so much!!!

@ProfessorMichaelWingert

5 ай бұрын

Appreciate you watching.

I want to self-study some Akkadian as an eventual way into Ugaritic.

@ProfessorMichaelWingert

6 ай бұрын

Both great languages. If you want to do Akkadian, I recommend getting John Huehnergard's "A Grammar of Akkadian." That's the introductory text that I use when I teach it.

Awesome but one of the first things that popped out to me in terms of modern semitic cognates with Akkadian is the word miskin مسكين which is also in Hebrew. Speaking of which I wonder if the Akkadians had some equivalent of khara....

@ProfessorMichaelWingert

Жыл бұрын

There are plenty of words for excrement, and ḫara could be associated with digging a hole... perhaps a crap hole. I haven't seen that in the literature yet, but if I run across it, I'll try to comment here again to let you know!

@stevenv6463

Жыл бұрын

@@ProfessorMichaelWingert ah I see so it would be related to Hebrew חור as in hole? I always assumed it would be related to the Arabic for falling خرّ

@ProfessorMichaelWingert

Жыл бұрын

@@stevenv6463 To be honest, I've never thought about it. I think the root is חרר so that would (potentially) be different. I always thought that the word was onomatopoeia given how I learned it from Surayt (Turoyo Neo-Aramaic).

What is the equivalent of (of and if) in Akkadian, Ugaritic

Any recommendations for a curious layman to get into Akkadian? I know فصحى and can read a little biblical Hebrew. Akkadian just doesn't seem super accessible plus the problem with the dialects is even worse than learning ancient Greek.

@ProfessorMichaelWingert

Жыл бұрын

I recommend getting professor Huehnergard's A Grammar of Akkadian and the key. You'd be learning on your own, but it's a fine resource for beginners and comparative Semiticists. Huehnergard basically introduces students to the Old Babylonian dialect, which is the most manageable among the dialects (with fewer exceptions and developments than the others), so it is a good starter for the language before going down the dialect rabbit hole. If you can read German, Von Soden's Grundriss der akkadischen Grammatik remains the industry standard. You can email me and I will let you know the next time I do an open-enrollment online course.

@stevenv6463

Жыл бұрын

@@ProfessorMichaelWingert Excellent, I'll shoot you an email and look forward to possibly enrolling. I'll try to get that book. But what is that email?

@ProfessorMichaelWingert

Жыл бұрын

@@stevenv6463 professor wingert at gmail dot com (typed this way so I don't get spammed).

@medstudentsarah3745

Жыл бұрын

@@ProfessorMichaelWingert How long are your online Akkadian courses usually and by the end of it will the participants reach B1/B2 or is it more introductory?

@ProfessorMichaelWingert

Жыл бұрын

@@medstudentsarah3745 Hi Sarah. I'm presently teaching introductory Akkadian over the course of two 10 week quarters at Fuller Theological Seminary. I will also be doing something similar at Agora University in the near future that will be in either 16 week semester (or 8 week half semester) format. Because the CEP framework is designed for speaking and reading function, I think it would be tough to pin down Akkadian into that format (it might be an interesting project for me to undertake though). Serious students should be able to read Akkadian texts well after 32 weeks. The line for functioning as A2/B1 in non-spoken languages is a little fuzzy. I'd call reading texts in cuneiform B2 and above, which may or may not take another semester (or two). My approach is to teach the language first, then the cuneiform afterwards. There are important reasons for that. Thanks for asking!

The root for the words Akk. innakkis , Heb. Yeqasses and Arb. Yaqqos is QS ( Cut )

What like ING in Akkadian?

@ProfessorMichaelWingert

10 ай бұрын

Could you ask this question another way? I'm not sure I'm understanding what your question is about the Akkadian language.

@yonj3269

8 ай бұрын

​@@ProfessorMichaelWingert What is the equivalent of (ING) in Akkadian, Ugaritic?

@chickenstrangler3826

5 ай бұрын

What is ING? You mean the sound or is it an acronym? ​@@yonj3269

@user-nu4ee8fl1o

Ай бұрын

He is asking what the conjugate for present simple perfect word would be. Unfortunately- Hebrew and Aramaic as well as akkadean have a different structure. In Hebrew it’s the root and paal - binyanim system. Easy answer is look for binyan “poel” or “poalim” aka adding o after the first letter of the root

Which language appeared to be the closest to Akkadian? Maybe Eblaite?

@ProfessorMichaelWingert

Ай бұрын

Could be... if only we knew more about Eblaite!

Walla beemet dome

Hi

Abraham son Sargon akkidin king number 4 son

That doesn't sound at all like what would an akkadian say and have imprinted for generations to come.

هنا العبريه جاءت بعد هاذه اللغات واخدت من الحميريه والسباءيه والسريانيه القديمه وفي اللغه العبربه بعض الكلمات للغه الجءزيه القديمه وهي لغه يتكلم بها الي الان في ارتريا ومنها التقري والتقرنيا وكذالك من اللغه الحاميه الموجوده في ارترياوهي لغت الحضارب مثل اليم للماء وكذالك ايلات ومن التقري يقولون بالعبريه بشلا او ابشلا او ابشل هذه لغاتنا العبريه خليط من جميع اللغات من الشرق الاوسط ومن شرق افريقيا من هنا وهناك وهذا يدل انها جديده وجاءت بعد هذه اللغات القديمه❤❤❤