Aircraft magnetos, 500 hour, why its important!

In this video we look at bendix aircraft mags, and the function of the impulse coupling.
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  • @davidconnolly7693
    @davidconnolly76933 жыл бұрын

    The impulse coupling is just the most ingenious device ever.

  • @davidclark3304
    @davidclark3304 Жыл бұрын

    We examined an engine one year where a set screw had come loose inside. It was a fresh field overhaul and apparently someone forgot to locktite it or tighten it sufficiently. That tiny part went around inside the case for about two minutes--long enough for one circuit of the pattern--and caused a lot of havoc, and by the time they got it back on the runway the crankshaft had broken.

  • @getonlygotonly
    @getonlygotonly10 ай бұрын

    airplanes and old tractors are the bulk of magneto use today, keep the technology alive. thanks for great instructional video

  • @morganbeasley
    @morganbeasley3 жыл бұрын

    We need more mechanics like you in Alaska, great video, I particularly liked the impulse coupling demonstration.

  • @framavia2201

    @framavia2201

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, I guess you need decent maintenance out where you are! Not so many places to make a comfortable forced landing!

  • @quantumleap359
    @quantumleap3592 жыл бұрын

    I've worked on Wico mags, used on stationary engines. Le Roy hand crank start 4 cylinder engines use an impulse mag. Rather fiddly to reassemble, but doable. Thanks for the great video.

  • @mattmansell3486
    @mattmansell34863 жыл бұрын

    Excellent educational content for those of us that don't learn very well from a book. Thank you for spending the time to show exactly how it all functions.

  • @framavia2201

    @framavia2201

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @diannebaginski3255
    @diannebaginski32559 ай бұрын

    I was looking to see ADs on the armature and coil of a Bendix mag.

  • @triplanelover
    @triplanelover10 ай бұрын

    hey thanks for posting this! I am in the middle of a mag-mania with my bendix RH....getting a newly overhauled one; your video is very informative

  • @MotoFlightGuy
    @MotoFlightGuy Жыл бұрын

    What a great video. Very well explained and demonstrated. Wish there was more content like this out there. And yes, mags are always neglected!

  • @michaelberl7711

    @michaelberl7711

    Жыл бұрын

    Not always...

  • @dynoguy
    @dynoguy4 жыл бұрын

    Great info,. never been into one of these, but always wondered how they get a decent spark out at low rpm without a shower relay.

  • @richieyoung2859
    @richieyoung28594 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant, very useful.

  • @marcobitran2244
    @marcobitran2244Ай бұрын

    Great video

  • @carmenallocco6497
    @carmenallocco64978 ай бұрын

    Excellent video, very interesting.

  • 4 жыл бұрын

    lovely stuff

  • @tedstriker754
    @tedstriker75423 күн бұрын

    Well if it's shower of sparks, then no pins to worry about, or impulse couplers.

  • @RetiredPilot
    @RetiredPilot3 жыл бұрын

    Back in the day I did IFR training on Aztec aircraft. My boss changed the Mags every 500 hours. He sad 650 hours was full life for a mag. Needles to say the company I worked for had excellent maintenance. I did a lot of training in actual IMC.

  • @framavia2201

    @framavia2201

    2 жыл бұрын

    Some people do advocate replacing them regularly, I know of some companies who give slick mags just one 500 hour IRAN and replace every thousand hours. Bendix mags are pretty robust though and all the parts seem to be readily available at the moment.

  • @pearcemachineshop5200
    @pearcemachineshop52004 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting good video. Al.

  • @framavia2201

    @framavia2201

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Al, looking forward to seeing the wheel balancer up and running!

  • @realvanman1
    @realvanman12 жыл бұрын

    A few thoughts: First off, I applaud your attention to detail, and recognition of it’s importance. Secondly, I am reminded of the recent loss of the B-17. There are but few remaining, and people were killed as well. It seems that a flippant and cavalier attitude towards mags was a primary factor in the crash. Third, I am shocked to see that the impulse coupling does not have a positive snap action between low speed impulsing and direct at running speed. Most centrifugal mechanisms are designed to snap over center for a positive action. That partial grabbing and banging of the mechanism is cringeworthy.

  • @framavia2201

    @framavia2201

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it's very old tech, the impulse should. stop operating completely by 450 RPM on most 4 cylinder mags. Engine idle speed should be around 650, so it should only clatter for a few seconds on startup, but like you say - a bad start followed by low idle results in a lot of torture for the components!

  • @rajatdash9818
    @rajatdash98184 жыл бұрын

    Nice video

  • @framavia2201

    @framavia2201

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @royalwilson6640
    @royalwilson66402 жыл бұрын

    he should write a book on how to do this type work...very interesting

  • @cosmosdaniel4791
    @cosmosdaniel47912 жыл бұрын

    I glad I come on to KZread,,I will like to know if it's possible for me to send 3 wico A series and 3 wipac cj magneto for you to timing and fixes others areas for me can't find no one in st Vincent nor the Caribbean to service them for me thanks for your generous cooperation,

  • @aerobatixguy7682
    @aerobatixguy76827 ай бұрын

    Great video! At what RPM should the impulse coupling be disengaged? After start up, i still hear the clicking while the engine is at idle. The clicking doesn't stop until I'm above about 800 to 900rpm. Is this normal??

  • @framavia2201

    @framavia2201

    7 ай бұрын

    If you have Slick or Bendix mags on a Continental or Lycoming engine, there should be no impulse coupling operation over 300-400 RPM. If you think the impulse coupling is operating above this range it needs urgent investigation.

  • @AimeMOfficial
    @AimeMOfficial2 жыл бұрын

    hello, great tutorial video. i have a Magnito that needs overhaul and i was wondering if you would do the job for me please.

  • @framavia2201

    @framavia2201

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi - sorry for the late reply, unfortunately I can't take on any work outside of our own fleet of aircraft at the moment, due to pressure of work and certification limitations.

  • @joekynaston9979
    @joekynaston99792 жыл бұрын

    why didn't you show how to check the coil and capacitor? Simple to do and important.

  • @framavia2201

    @framavia2201

    2 жыл бұрын

    Fair point, will try to get that in another video

  • @GamingwithGamerGirls
    @GamingwithGamerGirls3 жыл бұрын

    Can you explain how a magneto can throw bits in the engine?

  • @framavia2201

    @framavia2201

    3 жыл бұрын

    The accessory cases of smaller piston engines are not isolated, mags are driven directly form the engine crank or camshaft gears. The impulse coupling, stop pins etc share this space. Any failure here will shed bits into the drive train and has been known to stop engines without much warning. We also had an incident with a Slick (now Champion) mag many years ago, where an older type of bearing (now superseded) seized solid in the magneto, spun and started to force the mag drive gear out of mesh with the engine. Fortunately the mag shifted on its mount, the timing was affected enough that the pilot picked up the problem on power check and elected not to take off.

  • @501isa
    @501isa Жыл бұрын

    it seems weird to me that aircraft engines still run mags instead of a more modern computer controlled set up with twin ECUs for redundancy as it would reduce the mantanance cost over the lifetime of the engine EFI they used more commonly available automotive parts that have been proven to run for prolonged periods of time. the only benifit i can see with mags is they can opperate without external power but what are the chances of a twin set of alternators going bad in comparison to a mag?

  • @framavia2201

    @framavia2201

    Жыл бұрын

    It's coming, for homebuilt and experimental aircraft there are electronic ignition systems available now, including "p" mags, which require electrical power only for starting, then they can sustain themselves once the engine is running, they still have rotors and bearings, but no old fashioned points, and they can monitor engine parameters to set the spark advance for optimum performance. The pace of change is slow in the aircraft industry, certification is a long expensive process and this means manufacturers often stick with old but proven technology

  • @withgrowinginsanity198
    @withgrowinginsanity1983 жыл бұрын

    This poor stop pin :)

  • @arturohernandez6641

    @arturohernandez6641

    2 жыл бұрын

    They could get me the manual for overjual of these magnetos .. if they had it in Spanish, much better

  • @arturohernandez6641

    @arturohernandez6641

    2 жыл бұрын

    I am going to thank you very much .. Mexican

  • @jtully79
    @jtully793 жыл бұрын

    You sound British. Where are you based?

  • @framavia2201

    @framavia2201

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup British, we're based in Suffolk

  • @jtully79

    @jtully79

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@framavia2201 I have a bendix 1200 serious magneto that requires overhaul. I’m based at Stapleford. Where is your shop? How can I find you?

  • @framavia2201

    @framavia2201

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi - really sorry for the late reply - it seems comments which youtube considered as replies don't appear in my notifications, or in the I haven't responded section! Unfortunately, although we had magneto overhaul and testing on our exposition - it's for our own fleet only, we cannot issue a form one for components overhauled in house. There are several companies not too far away who can do it for you. Brinkley Aircraft services at Meppershall still do a good job. Nicholson McClaren also do mags. Hope this helps.

  • @WhallonJesse
    @WhallonJesse9 ай бұрын

    Or just get rid of this technology and use FADEC like modern jet engines, heck even ICE cars have this. Leave Mags on lawnmowers.

  • @amtpdb1
    @amtpdb12 жыл бұрын

    Disappointing. You should do this, I won't bore you with this. You should do these inspections, I won't bore you with that. Show what you are suppose to do, show why this is no good, why did you change this, not cheap, give us an idea of how much! This is in poor condition, show us why it is poor and what a good one looks like! Why not show where you found out the internal timing and how to set it not just show a tool.

  • @diannebaginski3255
    @diannebaginski32559 ай бұрын

    Bore me with the details.