From a Kemble FISO. “So the standard overhead join does not normally require a crosswind join as mentioned in the video, however each aerodrome have different SOP's, Kemble is no exception. The Runway at Kemble is unusually long for a GA airfield at (give or take) 2 kilometres, because of this there is significant risk that a departing aircraft could come into conflict of an aircraft crosswind. Especially in the microlights with such good climb rates. To manage this risk, the FISO manual states that we ask pilots to report crosswind when making an overhead join. We may hold an aircraft on the runway while an aircraft is crosswind to minimise risk, or at least pass traffic information before the "take off at your discretion". As the video mentioned the downwind join is a compulsory call, unless previous instructed otherwise, which effectively the FISO did. But to be fair, no harm done. And if in doubt, make the call!”

@musoseven8218

4 жыл бұрын

Good points well made, my mate made a similar, less informed I hasten to add, comments about Kemble as it is such a large airfield relative to GA and flight/circuit speeds and climb out rates make a difference (jets, microlights, GA etc etc). A PTT button failure is another good one, pilot sat waiting and waiting......and waiting.

Very useful video. As an LAPL and FISO (Kemble, Coventry and now Shobdon) I think it's great for student pilots and qualified pilots, should put them at there ease, we are there to help and hopefully make things easier for the pilots. The funniest call I heard was whilst I was instructing for KFC in Eurostar G-KEJY, my student got her phonetic alphabet mixed up and reported "GOLF-JULIET WANKEY DOWNWIND". I didnt take it personally. The Flying Reporter has a good series explaining the different Air Traffic Services you will come across.

@BenAtkinsonVideos

4 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks nick for your comment - I did laugh out loud!! Yes he does indeed. Thank for watching mate

I really enjoyed that. It brought back my PPL days at Norwich. Ben added so much of a human side to ATC controllers. They just want to keep the skies safe.

@BenAtkinsonVideos

4 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks very much. Yeh he was great - glad you enjoyed it!

I remember years ago when I played with Chipmunks I had to divert due to weather front, at a large airport and was given a massive list of taxiways and runway crossings. I made a call that when something like this, “G-XX unfamiliar with airfield lay out request professional taxi” The town answer was something like “G-XX Roger, sorry can only give an amateur progressional taxi, to parking”. I was lucky enough to be invited to the tower while I waited for the weather to clear to my detonation and the controllers kindly looked after me and got the weather info ( I was only an ATC cadet about 18 ½ at the time and it was my longest flight to reposition the aircraft from Cambridge to RAF Valley).

Really useful Ben. Been flying for five years and still have a touch of radio phobia. It's important to try and get it right but not to beat ourselves up if we don't. Fortunately we now have to wear face coverings which helps hide any red faces if we have to walk past ATC!!

1. Engage brain before operating mouth! 2. Engage brain before operating mouth! Free advice from a thirty+ year ATC on three continents.

Thanks to both Ben's for a useful, informative video - keep up the good work. Good to hear feedback from a Kemble FISO too - all to the good.

Brilliant video Ben....very informative!! Well done.

Excellent as always Ben!

Superb s always, Thank you Ben & ....Ben :)

Awesome! A nicely concise run through of the key things to remember and some good laughs as well. Cock in the smoke pit... 🤣

@BenAtkinsonVideos

4 жыл бұрын

Haha it’s a classic isn’t it! Thanks mate

Great video. Useful recap presented in a reassuringly lighthearted way. Thank you very much Ben and Ben! Take care and stay safe.

@BenAtkinsonVideos

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much Tim. Haha - easy to remember his name, at very least! Stay well

Useful refresher that Ben, thanks for sharing.

@BenAtkinsonVideos

4 жыл бұрын

Pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it and found it useful!

That was a good bit of revision for my RT knowledge. Another great video.

@BenAtkinsonVideos

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Phillip, good to hear. Thanks for watching 👍

Another Grate episode Ben, made a few of those mistakes before! 😀 cheers for sharing

@BenAtkinsonVideos

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching buddy! Ha yeh I guess we all have at some point

Top tips Ben. I’ve yet to make my first call on the radio so when things are back to normal and training restarts I’m going to watch this again. Cheers.

@BenAtkinsonVideos

4 жыл бұрын

Ah good to hear Jed. Yeh - I may help! Thanks for watching

Great video guys, very useful! Thank you!

@BenAtkinsonVideos

4 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for watching, glad you found it useful.

Cheers for this! Follow you both on insta. I’m glad you said about writing / rehearsing calls. I’m still training but on my nav flights I always write a brief dialog as a guide. Helps me loads and just eases a bit of pressure so you can concentrate on the most important thing.... flying! It’s good to hear that some pilots do that too! I was a little nervous about giving up those jottings once I’ve got my license but I think they’ll probably stay for good now! Good video. Cheers!

@BenAtkinsonVideos

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Sean nice one thanks mate!! Yeh I do that a lot. As you say, if it takes something off your workload then I’m all for it

Very nice to hear from “them on t’ other side”

Just watch it again mate, as My instructor has told me to start doing calls 🙈

Should’ve watched this video earlier.. Very nice though! We can always improve aspects about our flying, including RT calls!

Great video guys! :)

@BenAtkinsonVideos

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Kevin!

Hi Ben, another great and informative video!! BUT I bet you prefer to be in the air ..👍👍

VERY GOOD. I ALSO LEARNT AT KEMBLE. GREAT PLACE TO LEARN. IT GETS YOU USED TO A PROPER AIRFIELD. HELO'S. JETS. GA ALL AT THE SAME TIME - BRILLIANT GROUNDING

@BenAtkinsonVideos

4 жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more!! Thanks for watching Steve

I wasn't expecting to laugh at this video but 'Cock in the Smoke Pit' and "airfield in shite" haha! You have to do a "Rude Radio" video.

He speaks like he’s under water. He’s definitely tower. Wish they would learn to ANNUNCIATE!!!!.

Brilliant , informative and funny ......."airport in shite" must remember to make that call 👍

@BenAtkinsonVideos

4 жыл бұрын

Haha that is absolute gold isn’t it. Must report that before you enter the zone 😂😂

Honestly, I find the radio comms harder than the flying!!!

Nice one, Ben and Ben! 👍🏻 Most of your R/T is the same as in NL, there are just a couple small differences...

@BenAtkinsonVideos

4 жыл бұрын

Ah interesting. Do you use your native language mainly? On the RT.

@BenAtkinsonVideos

4 жыл бұрын

And thanks for watching!

@ForFunFlyer

4 жыл бұрын

@@BenAtkinsonVideos Nope, it's all English 😉 But for example the phrase "Basic Service" is here "Flight Info", when a controller is only providing QNH, etc. But 99% is the same...

I made a landing at a FISO airfield once. After landing I was awaiting the vacate next right call but nothing came. Aware of an aircraft on short final I vacated right. Looking back I think that was wrong. I should have stood still on runway or continued to end? I was trying to be helpful. What do you think?

@BenAtkinsonVideos

4 жыл бұрын

You could maybe do a quick call along the lines of “G-Call sign requesting parking/fuel” and they should give you directions off the runway - but legally - the runway is yours when you’re on it until you leave.

@musoseven8218

4 жыл бұрын

@@BenAtkinsonVideos And....best not to vacate or do anything in a hurry in a microlight with a crosswind present.

Hello, I'm thinking about getting my MPPL, What's the best book to help me learn radio communications? And I recently purchased a book by Brian Cosgrave for beginners, was that the right choice?

@BenAtkinsonVideos

3 жыл бұрын

I didn’t use a book, but read the cap413 a bit and mainly leant on the radio section of CAA’s sky wise code (free download pdf), then I watched a lot of KZread! But yeh, the cosgrove got me through exams for the other theory stuff. Great book. Hope that helps and thanks for watching!

"Wilco" is not the way to answer, repeat the instructions, then both know you got it correct and if you have got it wrong the controller knows and can correct you. Waffle waffle waffle, pass your request and shut up! He he. Ah, I have done it as well. Half way through I forget what I was going to ask. Just as well the instructor was there, but that is a long long time ago! Controllers are all fat ain't they :-D

@nickhoward9765

4 жыл бұрын

It was a Flight Information Service so it was not an Instruction but a request, in this case "Wilco" is an acceptable acknowledgement, its detailed in the AFIS section of CAP413.

@robpritchard5022

4 жыл бұрын

Don't clog the frequency repeating stuff that isn't mandatory. Other people want to get a word in.

@christopherwilson6527

4 жыл бұрын

CAP413. Report, approved, traffic info etc. These are not terms that need read backs, just say wilco or roger. Clearance, taxi and ATC instructions etc. These are things that need read backs. Read CAP413. It isnt that bad actually.

@markcourtney7251

3 жыл бұрын

christopher wilson spot on!!