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Kyle your the greatest ,by you posting this video and videos like this I can Absolutely tell they you think of your followers you think outside the box,for you to crash at his place prior to this video interview and for u guys to link up in Vegas tells us your followers that you are enjoying your platform informing us and keeping it a Buck 100 and nothing less thanks 🙏🏾 keep it up fam
@mansajoka5390
5 жыл бұрын
Kyle Gott thanks fam 🙏🏾
One of my instructors said, "99.9% accuracy at Chicago O'Hare Airport means you had 4 mid air collisions. We must be perfect." It really put it into perspective for me.
@matthewbrown4482
5 жыл бұрын
It only takes one small mistake. One small missed call or incorrect instruction can snowball into something big. Large airports like O'hare have such high traffic volume that the 99.9 might be accurate. But our entire job is to provide safe and expeditious services for aircraft. If you have even 1 collision that is definitively your fault, you're out a job.
I'm an Air Traffic Controller at Travis AFB, California. 1C151. It's interesting to see other people's perspective on Air Traffic in the Military. One thing I noticed tho, the Air Force changed the rules. You no longer need a 6 year contract to do Air Traffic in the Air Force. I am currently 2 years into my 4 year contract. I am getting closer and closer everyday to Civilian Air Traffic. That's where the prize is $$$
@selsahmwishen2981
Жыл бұрын
What is the average entry salary of a civilian ATC, puting in mind the job seeker has a 4-6 years military ATC experience? What asvab general score is needed to qualify for this job?
Kyle I think an important question that is missing from these videos is about work/life balance.. family time, social/friend time, going to school, hobbies, etc. besides that these videos are very informational great job.
@PimpCatTV
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! But you can find that on reddit or elsewhere online btw!!
@tylersheppeard5370
4 жыл бұрын
Ayo Flee late, but I’ve been a controller for 2 years now. He mentions crew rest, but doesn’t go into detail. Mandatory crew rest is determined by the FAA. You’re not allowed to work more than 8 hours in position actively working traffic and you’re not allowed to be at work for more than 10 hours. Nothing trumps that rule. Not even your commander for commanders calls. You also have to have at least 12 hours between shifts and aren’t allowed to work more than 6 days in a row without a 24 hour rest period. Again, nothing can trump that. It’s unique in that your work is only done in position. When you’re “unplugged” (out of position) you’re done. Can’t bring it home with you so you go home and enjoy your rest. It’s honestly amazing. No other job in the Air Force does that that I know of. Also, he mention washing out in training. Air traffic control is different in that you can wash out at *any* point in your career. I’ve seen people that have had their ratings for 5 years washout and I’ve even heard of master sergeants and senior master sergeants get washed out one of my sup’s. You have to always stay current, always learn. There’s so much information to know and learn and apply that it can be daunting. Tech school is more of a stress test to see if you can handle air traffic and think under stress. A lot of people just aren’t cut out for it. It’s nothing personal, doesn’t mean you’re a failure, but this job requires a certain type of person to do. If you chose it best of luck, and if you make it, have a fun career! Best job in the Air Force. (Or if you get out, east money. Denver tower is paying $169,000 a year *base* salary right now)
@shatteringairfist191
4 жыл бұрын
True
@jeffreyannas2398
3 жыл бұрын
@@tylersheppeard5370 there are waivers that can allow up to 12 hours shift deployed.
@selsahmwishen2981
Жыл бұрын
@@tylersheppeard5370 is the Denver tower salary an entry salary and for how many years of military ATC experience does one need to have?
I’ve been scouring the Internet for information on ATC in the Air Force and when I’d all but given up, you posted this video. Thank you Kyle!!!
@gcoutdoors904
5 жыл бұрын
Bro..... just send it... it's worth it
@ryandio8764
5 жыл бұрын
hunter anderson I’ve still gotta complete a year of high school but yeah it’s definitely my first choice
@matthewbrown4482
5 жыл бұрын
It's good stuff man. DM me thru instagram if you have a specific question.
@alfredosmith4975
2 жыл бұрын
@@ryandio8764 did you end up making atc in the air force
@Jacob-ck5vw
2 жыл бұрын
Follow up Did you get in as an atc yet?
ATC is no longer a 6 year contract only . 4 years is an option as well.
@xmzru
Жыл бұрын
do you have any sources for this?
Please do a one of these on Special Missions Aviation
Six years for ATC is a bit much but there is a FAA job waiting for you to slide right in to. Keesler 1956 they need an ATC guy in Korea now so I was put on a plane full of Navy Officers and flown to Toyko via Hawaii, then one to Seoul, Korea, hitched a bumpy ride to K-55 F-86F fight base at Osan. What a year. One I'll never forget. Every day we expected a million NVA to overrun the base.
If you were simply planning on doing your time and getting out for a Civilian job as an air traffic controller, even if you were allowed to take a 4 year contract, you would STILL want the 6 year contract simply because the FCC really wants people that were not trained through their standard civilian training program to have 4 to 5 years of experience already. So just be default you would almost always want to do the 6 year contract so you can get that full 4 to 5 years of experience.
@matthewbrown4482
5 жыл бұрын
Precisely!
@snowboardr9393
5 жыл бұрын
Can you back this up with raw data? Where and how did you find out that they would like 4 to 5 years of experience? You mean the FAA as well, correct? I’m going into ATC and on the fence about 4 year or 6 year contract. So if this is in-fact true, then I will choose a 6 year contract. The validation will truly help, thank you!
@alexwilliams5143
Жыл бұрын
This isn’t true btw don’t sign a 6 yr for atc if u dont want to reenlist!! You can go faa after 4 if u get rated. You need 1 yr of working experience for the faa- air traffic controller
Hey Kyle, Im currently a Prior service Marine who re-trained into Command Post. If you are looking for video ideas. Hit me up, i'd be willing to talk about my process as this isnt a common path for most, but I may be able to provide new insight.
"I just wanna be around aircraft" that's what's always in my mind
Awesome video, incredible collaboration, and amazing content. It is fantastic to see these interviews, as it is adding so much perspective for everyone watching them. This series is wonderful, and with more videos, this will become legendary.
I’m 30 and fixing to enlist for this job.
@djaltitude3177
2 ай бұрын
Same here. Did you get it?
So greatful for this video, I am a SSgt about to leave for Tech school to 1C1x1. Very much needed info
You can sign a 4 year for atc as of Jan 2019.
As an AF ATC instructor, "just don't do something stupid" is the best advice lmao
Not to shabby! And I swear, you were a former student of mine at Cody Hall.
You have to have extra good hearing and be able to pop your ear drums manually. Trust it hurts and it is very easy to be disqualified for any hearing issues.
Major inspiration for me to punch through basic training to be able to do this. Thank you!
@alexwilliams5143
Жыл бұрын
Hey nick im atc at nellis afb right now, let me know if you have any questions. It will be tough just don’t give up and you’ll make it
@nicksaffari4412
Жыл бұрын
Hey. I have chose not to pursue the military since it is not the right environment for me. I'm now attending college to get a CTI degree and become an FAA air traffic controller. I appreciate your help though!
@dotinvade8075
Жыл бұрын
@@nicksaffari4412 what happened did you end up trying out?
@nicksaffari4412
Жыл бұрын
@@dotinvade8075 nope. the military was not for me. I'm going to attend advanced atc which is a 1 year academy that trains contract tower air traffic controllers.
I was ATC school maintenance at Cody Hall Keesler AFB for ~ 4 years. ('83 -'87)
Very cool interview, I’ve wondered what this job was like on an Air Force Base. My son is in Fire Protection at Joint Base Charleston.
Awesome interview guys the most informative to the T. Looking forward to becoming an ATC 💪🏻 one of the best interview videos hands down.
This interview was better than past ones I seen I loved it thank u for the information!!
@matthewbrown4482
5 жыл бұрын
Sure thing! Glad you liked it!
So proud of you guys. Gives ne insight into what my nephew had to do. So proud Good Job Lil GuyGuy Auntie Loves you🇺🇸❤️🙏🏾🛫
The zoom edits are hilarious bro haha never end these!
Soon to be faa controller here. Good to hear the military side of it. I would love to go reserve one day.
Thank you for sharing your experience and shedding light on others in the service. Since you’re featuring other AFSC could you 1A8X2, ISR. I’m moving to Vegas soon and am looking at jobs available at Creech. Hope you’re enjoying life after the Military!
Man this videos are fire, great work
this is what I am trying to get into. Thank you for the information.
Can you interview a linguist
Dope video. I’m a Military ATCo in my country and it seems to work the same way as you do. But here we have a carrier, so all the training and preparation fases get a little bit longer than in USAF. Thanks 🇧🇷
Thank you so much for this video. Thank you Matt! This really helped.
@matthewbrown4482
5 жыл бұрын
Sure thing! I'm glad you found this helpful.
My son just enlisted and leaves August 7th. He enlisted for 6 years and signed his contract in DEP for ATC... He is really looking forward to it.
Hey man this is a very helpful video! I am picking my job very soon and I was interested in this and now I have a better view on it! Thank you!
Thanks for this, Its so hard to get in detail information about this job...
Thank you sir for this series! It's great content!
I am going as ATC and they didn’t make me sign a 6 year...
@hdenoto129
5 жыл бұрын
It required a 6 year contract for my husband too
@Nikkikitty771
5 жыл бұрын
It’s still a 6 unless it’s special forces
@jodiemuna9611
5 жыл бұрын
My recruiter told me I have to take an additional test on top of the ASVAB to qualify for ATC... true?
@deuiquen
5 жыл бұрын
Jodie Muña yes, it’s true.
@juniorortiz5896
5 жыл бұрын
yeah, starting this year you could sign a 4 year contract. of course they didn’t tell me before i left jan 15
Hey Matt!! I did AFJROTC with ya! Get it💪
I’m stationed in Kansas! I’d be down to create a video with you for my job ! Bio Environmental (4b0x1)
@yogaby_gab
5 жыл бұрын
Dxrryl2Times you probably would have to come to Las Vegas...
Hi Matt Your doing a great job the same job in the RAAF is done by Officers.!!
Thank you for this content. Very informative very helpful ....
Can you interview someone from civil exchange and red horse?
What is the schedule like I really want to know that in a little more depth
Do a video on Fire Protection!
I thoroughly enjoy your videos and they have given me so much insight on the airforce that I feel my recruiter hasnt given me. Im currently waiting to head to BMT and I'd really like a video about the job I'm headed into; aircraft metals technology. I've got a background in metal fabrication but all I really know about the job is what the website says
@matthewbrown4482
5 жыл бұрын
The airforce will teach you everything that you need to know to do your job successfully. There are opportunities for potentially cross training if you don't like it.
Are you gonna do a video on the new SR job in the Air Force?
As an ATC apprentice currently at Keesler about to graduate Tech school, I like this vid. All spot on as far as I know. Appreciate the advice too!
@matthewbrown4482
5 жыл бұрын
Sure thing man. DM me on Instagram with any specific questions.
@PAM455610
5 жыл бұрын
Matthew Brown I ship out on September 3rd to basic with air traffic control! You said in this video that you were thinking about re-enlisting, so I was curious why you weren’t going to get out after the 6 years and join the FAA? Since you’d make more money outside of the air force versus staying in with that job?
@matthewbrown4482
5 жыл бұрын
@@PAM455610 I just think that's where i want to be in a few years. Nothing crazy.
@maravue_8253
3 жыл бұрын
@@PAM455610 @Matthew Brown how long were you in dep?
I was shaking my head in agreeable the whole video. Used to be RAPCON.
Thank you Kyle for on creating this video! I leave with ATC to basic on August 6!
@matthewbrown4482
5 жыл бұрын
Good luck man! DM me on Instagram if you have specific questions.
@georizz
3 жыл бұрын
How was your experience I’m interested in becoming one
@maravue_8253
3 жыл бұрын
how long were you in dep?
@jimmyr7501
3 жыл бұрын
I was in dep for about 5 months, but I got my job after about 1 month in dep.
@jimmyr7501
3 жыл бұрын
Great Experience! I got rated about two months ago and my trainers helped me throughout the way. I struggled a little bit being my base is pretty busy but I made it. Just study and practice and you should be fine. Try to form a good relationship with the people you work with, especially the civilians.Get them to like you
I got booked with this job last week.
Hey kyle thank you for these videos!!! You are so amazing for thinking of this and sharing it with all of us. Is there a way that you can find an airman who is a linguist?? I would love to know moreee
I’m at Keesler right now for ARMS ! I graduate next Friday ! Go gators !!
@matthewbrown4482
5 жыл бұрын
Choooooooooooooomp!
I got a Air Force recruiter who isn’t responding to my text...should I find another ?
How about combat controller? Does the same thing, but gets shot at the same time.
Hey, Kyle, this is a great video series. I'd love to see a Geospatial Intelligence video.
@mandarinmcphee9295
5 жыл бұрын
wouldn't we all?
I know a guy who is an ATC supervisor at air force base... I don’t know a thing about it.. what rank is it as a supervisor?
My son is stationed at McConnell. He’s in aerospace propulsion. Can you do a Q&A for that field?
My coworker quit this job cause she said it was way to stressful. She said everyone drank heavy after work.
@esaflaka9155
2 жыл бұрын
Yup. I’ve only heard bad about this job🙄… and suicidal rates are highest on this job bc of how dependent pilots are to safely land with how many ever ppl they have on the plane/ the value of that plane 😐… and then you’re screwed if something bad happened. I personally would never want this job lol nd i hope ppl know this going into this job
i am going to basic training may 4th as an atc but i wasnt required to sign for 6 years
@maravue_8253
3 жыл бұрын
how long were you in dep?
hey Kyle I'm leaving for BMT in June with a mechanical aptitude area contract. can you do more mechanical job reviews
Can you do a video for cyber transport systems?
@yungeven8883
5 жыл бұрын
yeah he def should
Matt thank you
Is this available in the air force national guard ?
Didn't even put this in the list, somehow my sergeant told me to try to take a test for it three weeks from now lol
Hey Kyle, firstly thank you for your service! Secondly, do you think you could interview a JAG Officer? Thank you :)
Graduating tech school in a couple days, if anyone has any questions feel free to ask :))
@notyourmomma7663
Жыл бұрын
How long was your tech school
@MurdaRez
Жыл бұрын
@@notyourmomma7663 we have 3 blocks (fundamentals “fundies”, tower, radar) standard is 3.5 months but you can be put on AFI (awaiting further instructions) just depends on the situation, we had 7 in our class. 2 Wash backed (had to redo fundamentals) our class was too little to start tower basic so we got put on AFI for a week cleaning buildings and other stuff. You’ll be lucky to do your 72 duty days it happens very rarely told by my instructor over here
@samsneed3901
Жыл бұрын
What mos do the people have on the ground that will seemingly direct the pilot to start the jet engines and points down the runway and salutes the pilot as the taxi down the runway. Seen these people on KZread acting silly at times before they salute the pilot.
Please What is the ASVAB score for Air traffic control...
@maravue_8253
3 жыл бұрын
general 64
You can do a 4 year for ATC. I’m in tech school currently for ATC and have a 4 year contract
You should try to find and interview a Cryptolinguist.
Thank you.
I'm joining the navy to become an ATC but this is still entertaining and educational lol
@Divirse
3 жыл бұрын
How was it? I’m doing it too
I have a 1 year old. Will I have time to be with my family once I get to my first base with this job? I know you said you have to study 📚 I hope just not constantly study on my off time.
I'm turning 37 this year and planning on joining the navy as air traffic controller..I read that faa age requirement shows 31 years old of time of training.. would it prevent me from looking for job? I'm also considering reserve since I'm a father. Please advise. Thank you in advance
Do you need a Federal Aviation Administration ATC Specialist Certificate for this AFSC?
Had a co worker go through the PJ pipeline and right before graduation him and a few others got caught smoking weed and were kicked out
Thank you!
@matthewbrown4482
5 жыл бұрын
Sure thing! Glad you liked the video.
I really enjoyed this interview but at times it felt like the interviewer was talking more than the interviewee. Maybe consider asking more succinct and to the point questions
Thank you
Do you have one coming with TACP?
Sir kindly reply that does airmens of technical trade are engineer or not.??
How is the skill level determined? Is that with your ASVAB or do you start with one?
@matthewbrown4482
5 жыл бұрын
Skill levels are on a scale 1-3-5-7-9. 1 are untrained. People at BMT and tech school students. 3 levels are apprentices who are in OJT. 5 are journymen. 7 are like supervisors. 9s are administrative. There's more info out there somewhere. Hope this helps.
Sometimes you washout as a 5 or 7 level.
What do you have to score on the ASVAB to qualify for tho job?
@wanyanettles4428
4 жыл бұрын
KZreadr1256 I qualified and I got 60. 57 G 63 A M 42 E35
@maravue_8253
3 жыл бұрын
@@wanyanettles4428 how long were you in dep?
So if you leave the Air Force can you become an faa air traffic controller or do you need to go to college?
@matthewbrown4482
5 жыл бұрын
You could go straight to the FAA.
I'm on the fence, should I go for ATC, Airfield management or Contracting? I was leaning ATC but I found out if you don't got to school for it by 32 you can't join. So I feel it'll be too late for a civilian job
@ajrhodes6348
5 жыл бұрын
May be to late for you but unless you're well educated in what youre getting yourself into and think you can handle it without a doubt in your mind In would personally recomend contracting. Im a controller now but a friend of mine who washedout and went contracting is making just as much money as ATC would on the civilian side and living a much more stressfree life.
@matthewbrown4482
5 жыл бұрын
ATC is better than AF management. The FAA does allow an age waiver for controllers from the airforce. I joined at 18. If i stay in the AF for 20 years and retire i can still get picked up at 38 with the FAA or DoD and do another 20 years.
I am an Air Force 21 year veteran, pretty good video with correct information, the Air Force has a Dental Program, so I hope the young Airman gets his teeth fixed before he ends his enlistment.
Is it ok to go after this job even If u have no past experience
@AirmanVision
2 жыл бұрын
That’s what enlisted jobs are for. 99% of people joining have no experience in the job they get. They teach you everything in technical training after BMT
Do you have to take a qualification test at MEPS for Air Traffic Control in the USAF?
@devonolson8459
5 жыл бұрын
@@M4TTYMCFLY Thank you
Thanks airman Brown it’s my dream to one day work at Nellis tower! Seriously though this is good information #DontMakeMeDrugTest
@matthewbrown4482
5 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha! Well being at Nellis is better than getting orders to England! #DontMakeMeDrugTest
interview 3E7X1 fire firefighter
I just want a photojournalism video, good video so far!
@theycallmedomy2836
5 жыл бұрын
Az Photography gonna be a hard one
Hi buddy am really enlightened by your advice en I would like to achieve such your goal. Am a Eric from Kenya looking forward to winning dv lottery en secure green card . As an immigrant can I too join airforce en train to be an air controller please 🙏. I really love it.
@selsahmwishen2981
Жыл бұрын
Yes it is possible. However as a greencard holder, you will have to change your greencard status from a legal immigrant to a citizen. This job is under officer training category and for one to qualify for it; he or she needs to be a citizen.
Please stop interrupting the person you are interviewing to interject your extraneous comments.
I currently have fire protection as my afsc but I want to change it and I am currently in DEP, any tips on how to change my AFSC? My recruiter has told me that if I can find someone to take the job that he can get it changed but I can't find anyone to take it.
@MS2MAN
5 жыл бұрын
if you didn't sign for the job I don't think your locked into it I'd ask to spend to the ncoic or ask your recruiter again if that's the case
@hellseagle21
5 жыл бұрын
You should be able to change the job. Even if you've signed a contract it is not active until you actually set foot at BMT. Basically your recruiter would have the option to get you a new job or risk having you walk away since they can't force you to take a job or join.
Can u do a few interviews with ppl from security forces?
Lol the one dislike is a higher up in military lol
he said he did three years so far, I thought ATC was a required 6 years to start?
@AirmanVision
2 жыл бұрын
The Air Force assigns you a job and trains you. Nearly everyone in the Air Force had zero experience before they got assigned their job.
Does anyone know how often 1C1X1 jobs drop to the recruiters? I was fortunate to score extremely well on the Asvab and ATC tests at the age of 24, so i'd like to get a job contract secured before BMT instead of rolling the dice with an Open General Contract while there.
@matthewbrown4482
5 жыл бұрын
Air traffic is somewhat less common than most other jobs. But if you're recruiter has a good job pick cycle they can try to get you what you want. But at the end of the day its what the airforce needs.
@rileypowell8761
5 жыл бұрын
If you go open general you'll get security forces or services I promise you
@thomasmusil464
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input guys, I’ve definitely got some thinking to do
3:07 Kyle, you forgot you knew the 6-year requirement😂 kzread.info/dash/bejne/rH9518WYopDIfrw.html
Can you interview a CCT?