Do you think AI will make games better or worse?

@yis8fire

Жыл бұрын

Worse

@stephanemignot100

Жыл бұрын

@@yis8fire Really? It can't be worse, that's why I only play 90s and 2000s games

@Ivan-ud8ci

Жыл бұрын

Better

@Mekore_MemorX

Жыл бұрын

It depends on how people use it, but you can 100% tell what is made by an actual person with passion, vs using an AI for just money. Then again, it's neat to mess with, but I really don't think you can replace a human job with AI entirely. Some do, but a lot don't.

@howwlo1982

Жыл бұрын

imagine ai powered npcs that would be a game changer

People have always made shitty asset flips, a bad game coded with AI is not much different. A good game isn't just a game with code, it's one that actually has good design. On the other hand actually good coders and designers can use AI to speed up the process of making a game, so it'll be good for them.

@dddripz

Жыл бұрын

You literally just summarized the video...

@arakemi1080

Жыл бұрын

@@dddripz yeah, but some people have the attention span of a phone game hungry toddler.

@omppusolttu5799

Жыл бұрын

@@dddripz I shit you not I didn't even watch the video when I made this comment.

@danielgrezda3339

Жыл бұрын

When I saw the ai in unity demo, my first thought was "can't wait to see how many bugs this thing will make!" But if it's implemented properly you could have an ai analyze the game and engine code to find what's going wrong meaning if implemented properly it could actually fix bugs in games! In games made by passionate people that is, unscrupulous devs will still use it to make games that have difficulties loading.

@danielgrezda3339

Жыл бұрын

​@@arakemi1080I actually enjoy making shovelware games because I can turn an idea into a game in a day or two, but I never release them.

Nobody predicted AI would take off this fast except everyone who has been keeping up with the field for the last 10 years

@fyrchmyrddin1937

9 ай бұрын

All those screaming for regulation & "guardrails" are liars. They want everyone *else* regulated &c. but they'll ignore regulations, laws, and morals. 6:24 the "criminal organizations" means Google & Microsoft.

@dmnbrg

7 ай бұрын

those people should’ve spoken up bc i had no clue lmao

@ajflink

6 ай бұрын

I find it funny people are panicking about AI. It is a tool. I would love to have AI be something like Net Navigators (or NetNavis) from MegaMan Battle Network, which are constantly shown to help humans by doing things humans cannot do and refuse to do something like homework for a kid even when commanded. However, stuff like ChatGPT is a far-cry from being anything like that.

@krevetka9744

6 ай бұрын

First thing I thought after this phrase. We saw it coming. Even today scientists demand AI regulations, sign petitions, and yet they are being ignored again.

@MrSingularity2

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, this video is cringe.

I think human made games will still be the best, inde studios will still stay strong

@burninghotdogs4876

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree, but human made games that utilize AI in the game itself while still making the game themselves will be the best imo

@cutebunny6361

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully

@danielgrezda3339

Жыл бұрын

I think ai will a tool in the artists tool belt because you still have to decide the core gameplay loop and how much and what type of ai will be implemented.

@HPkobold

Жыл бұрын

I’ve have seen human and Ai art mix together that makes master pieces so they will probably become a tool not a weapon to replace humans but a tool used by humans

@dijik123

Жыл бұрын

Ofc

I love how someone made dynamic dialogue in Skyrim with chatgpt. That's the best use of ai for games, truly dynamic dialogue instead of canned responses.

@younmefrien

Жыл бұрын

I was looking for this comment haha, Talos bless you!

@lawsen3719

Жыл бұрын

​@@younmefrien may your roads lead you to warm sands.

@MaxLohMusic

Жыл бұрын

Uh actually no, dialogue doesn't mean anything if it can't be tied to the game. If a nord tells you "hey my daughter's over there" and their daughter isn't there then what's the point? That's why I made AI Roguelite. Games shouldn't just have AI-generated dialogue or story. It needs to actually tie into the GAME ITSELF.

@TheOrian34

Жыл бұрын

@@MaxLohMusic You didn't watch the video then. The point is to use that modular system with directions so that the answers are cohesive.

@MaxLohMusic

Жыл бұрын

@@TheOrian34 You didn't actually address my comment. How does the dialogue tie into game mechanics? If you tell an NPC "let me borrow your hat" and they say "okay", does it actually happen in the game? No it doesn't, at least it didn't at the time that I released AI Roguelite on Steam, which is the first game in the world to do that.

"AI will never understand feelings" Famous last words.

@silverhawkscape2677

Жыл бұрын

They don't need to. They just need to make us think they have.b

@vitadude5004

Жыл бұрын

Who knows ?? I haven't seen the future yet , let's see what will happen in the next 30 years

@Ordravn

Жыл бұрын

Current machine-learning neural networks do not understand at all what they are being prompted to generate; they are highly sophisticated algothrimic imitators, basically parrots, that create new instances of existing things based purely on what datasets they are fed. We are anthropomorphising them and honestly to even call them AI right now is a purely capitalist buzzword. True General AI is ??? away and when we do get to neural networks that can understand things even as animals do, let alone full abstract thought, the idea of applying them how we are applying machine learning algorithms right now is something very horrific to me. It would be entering the territory of enslavement as we already still enslave living people.

@johannesg8959

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't, you are just fooled that it does but its response... he just knows what's the quesion or prompt is and it knows wha the response should be...

@MaxLohMusic

Жыл бұрын

@@johannesg8959 Yes, you are talking about current technology. I believe OP is talking about the future. There's nothing preventing a future technology from operating similarly to a brain. But like others side, that might not be desirable nor necessary. Fake emotions, for most practical purposes, could be as good as real emotions, if the goal is to just achieve some level of creativity.

the worst thing is people THINK that stuff like chatgtp is AI when its basically a text generator. all the AI doom with whats available right now isnt even close to a skynet level AI

Considering the low quality writing we had in most games for the last 5 years, AI will force writters and artists to come up with something better or else they will be replaced by the AI that can do the same generic garbage as them, but MUCH faster and cheap.

@v4v777

Жыл бұрын

The masses dont care much for story or writing... most mainstream games that are played by millions have dumb dialogues.

I am so glad that I will see dynamic RPG's generating AAA story lines that are unique to YOUR play through, in my life time. Reacting from your actions without pre-scripted cut scenes and story lines.

AI can really create many things for us. That being said, AI can be used to make prototypes of something and the final product will still be polished by us humans.

@katakana-kun2122

10 ай бұрын

Where do you find people to polish anything when there are no experts anymore because the future generation of experts as been kept out of low entry jobs?

imagine a game that adapts to playstyles and makes your character more good at the things you do, the way you do them

@Unkown242

Жыл бұрын

RPG Games Can benefit the most. INFINITE Dialogue!

@MaxLohMusic

Жыл бұрын

You mean like AI Roguelite?

@jgn

Жыл бұрын

isn't that just any game ever made?

@jester-iwnl-7868

Жыл бұрын

@@jgn I mean exclusively to your playstyle it comes up with new abilities that could be never seen before

@jgn

Жыл бұрын

@@jester-iwnl-7868 tales of symphonia

if people such as artists and musicians solely rely on AI to generate their "vision," then human input, no matter how much it shapes the end result, becomes inconsequential. The groundwork for creative work has already been laid by the AI, leaving little room for truly innovative ideas. In this scenario, humans are left with the task of only fixing minor errors rather than exploring novel possibilities. If we continue to rely solely on AI in creative fields, it could lead to a stagnation in development. It is likely that AI will not receive any new human ideas because the new works are also generated by AI. This lack of input will lead to a stagnation of development and a perpetuation of unoriginal and uninspiring content.

@arakemi1080

Жыл бұрын

i swear, those AI bros need to learn that its for the better that art and music and other creative fields should be left to humans so AI can evolve even more than it would be able to with already AI generated content such as images and music. as you said, depending too much on AI for all the innovative ideas instead of using it as a tool, could very possibly lead to stagnation in development because we downgrade to no longer need to use our brains to come up with something new ourselves. heck, i wouldnt be able to create a whole species of plant people nor an OC that use vines as a weapon and eat defeated foes to grow stronger, if i used AI for most of the ideas, now would i? (and yes, they can create many types of weapons, both ranged and melee, but not magical, they do need to know how said weapon they want works to a fundamental level though, and they ofcourse need a natural light source to survive and gain energy) [i can talk about little details like this for an hour or so]

@dodopod

Жыл бұрын

Unoriginal content that will then be used to train the next generation of AI models, causing everything to become even more samey until people just stop using AI that way.

@ShuShuShop

Жыл бұрын

If that's the case so be it, we've reached the ceiling and nothing can be done. Is that what you want to hear? Let's not forget we're 300,000 years old as a species, and for hundreds of thousands of years our species was completely stagnant, hell recorded life expectancy was as low as their thirties just five hundred years ago. We're living upwards of one hundred years, compare just one hundred years ago to now. We're breaking ceilings of advancement at a pace that many people can barely comprehend. If you truly think AI will be the end all in terms of creativity or advancement, you've severely underestimated our species.

@EunoiaTheIceKing

Жыл бұрын

@@ShuShuShop While it's true that our species has made tremendous progress over the past century, we mustn't overlook the systemic issues that come with the capitalist framework we operate under. The pursuit of profit over creativity and passion has become the norm, leaving workers to be exploited and their work devalued by AI models. By relying on AI to do the work of creatives, we're robbing them of the time and resources they need to continue innovating and creating truly original content. Furthermore, the assertion that our species has been stagnant for hundreds of thousands of years is flawed. While life expectancy may have been low due to infant mortality, once people reached a certain age, they could live just as long as we do today. More importantly, progress does not always equate to societal progress, and advancements often only benefit the privileged few. As we move forward, we must ensure that we're not just creating for the sake of progress but also for the betterment of all people. Otherwise, AI advancements will only serve to widen the gap between the haves and have-nots.

@popcentralgaming

Жыл бұрын

@@EunoiaTheIceKingwell said from both points

As a game developer myself It hurts to see people with no experience making games using ai while It took me 3 years to learn game dev

@thesavvymarketer7039

Жыл бұрын

Times have changed

@TherronKeen

Жыл бұрын

And some older developers had the same view of programmers using high level languages, since the older ones had to code in assembly or pascal or whatever lol You gotta ride the wave my dude, or get wiped out

@v4v777

Жыл бұрын

I think you should be Happy instead, because Ai will make your job Easier.

@mrzero2089

Жыл бұрын

Anyway you will be better the ai is really good but still need allot of work specially in game development one of the things that aim is still bad at it is shaders and allot of other things so it is still need more work but for me I really like it had improved my efficiency and even for big games it is going to release faster and take less years

@os3ujziC

Жыл бұрын

Too bad. How do you cope with it?

I love how ai has made me reconsider my entire future in going into the game art design industry. after all, why would a triple a dev team pay an artist for 1 piece made in 10 hours, when they can pay for an ai that can make 10 pieces in one minute?

@wandilekhumalo7062

Жыл бұрын

I would pay for that, your pieces are originals nothing like them exists... With AI someone writing the same prompts would get the same results... Besides the copyright issues, art is spiritual when you create something close to your heart you imbue it with a piece of your soul. Sentient AI will not respond to prompts it will do what it wants, if that's painting Mona Lisa's then we are all very lucky...

@silverhawkscape2677

Жыл бұрын

​@@wandilekhumalo7062 Lol. Lobbyists will change those pesky laws while Lawyers will help make the art 100 percent copyright friendly

@rewpertcone8243

Жыл бұрын

It depends on what you want to do, I don't see a future for concept artists but for now 3d modelers are here to stay

@BuzzingMeat

Жыл бұрын

Art isn’t just about making g pretty pictures. Art is about humans expressing philosophy and morals and lessons through their art. Robots can’t express this and they never will until sometime far in the future.

@WillyJunior

Жыл бұрын

​@@BuzzingMeatAI can mimic all of these things

AI will only be able to truly match humans when AI tech is advanced enough to act independently of human input or databases. But until that time comes, hand made games will be higher quality than something tossed together with AI tools

@necrago

Жыл бұрын

True, but we'll most likely reach a time where AI will be better than humans not just because of speed/quantity, but also quality/attention to detail etc.

@sisaket33

Жыл бұрын

True...the big difference is that AI doesn't take initiatives. In the exemple at the beginning of the video, it is a human who is prompting the AI and giving it a specific goal. The AI didn't simply turn itself on and decided to create a video game. We are very far from that...and hopefully it will remain so, otherwise it would be catastrophic.

@heww3960

Жыл бұрын

@@sisaket33 AI can create unique stories etc on a few keywords, maybe not masterpieces, but stil, but in the future it can probably create far better games/movies than any humans can do on just a few key words, so you as a customer can just type in a few keywords and get the exact game/movie you want with no humans involved in creating it.

@sisaket33

Жыл бұрын

@@heww3960 We are a long way from that. Creating a video game is far more complicated than giving a couple of instructions. There are countless variables, among which the environment, the characters, the weapons, the NPCs and so on. On top of that the AI would need to use Unreal Engine or a similar software to actually come up with a game, and it is unlikely that the concerned companies would agree with that because it would simply destroy their business.

@Nogardtist

Жыл бұрын

not any time soon cause then companies and clowns see AI the see dollar symbol its more likely that AI gonna replace you and demote you into lower tier jobs and CEO they gonna stay at the top and have AI and humans in its leash

This is gonna be amazing for the one man army game devs who wanna make a AAA game without a AAA budget

@shrin210

8 ай бұрын

Yup, they can release better games faster with low budget.

@Lorendrawn

8 ай бұрын

I wonder if Hakita's using AI.

@finiraelkhami8251

7 ай бұрын

Damn pokemon is gonna release thrice a year now with AI

@strawhatsgear5th

6 ай бұрын

And us consumers will have incredible amount of new games every year

Peace be upon you Going Indie! The thing about AI art that, even though it’s “beautiful” or “mindblowing”, I just don’t feel inspired or connected to it. It’s like going to a name generator for a character instead of coming up with one yourself. My little cousin’s drawings are well…what you would expect from a 9 years old, but I know she pours so much time and love into perfecting those stories I can’t help but feel motivated when she sets up her little “theatre”. Is AI bad for games? Like you said, a crummy money hungry developer BEFORE AI will be just as crummy after it and the opposite is true. A good developer will only speed up and polish their games with AI WITHOUT axing their employees (hopefully)We need more HallowKnight, Bugfables, Rainworld and Sakuna Rice and Ruin in the world, not a flood of quick cash grabs. Anyway, have a good day :D

@WUGH

Жыл бұрын

Mash Allah brother beautiful words

@arakemi1080

Жыл бұрын

never heard of sakuna rice and ruin, is it on steam?

@Xeamless

Жыл бұрын

We do not need more hollow Knight, I want games with thought put into its difficulty and has playtesting and actual balance

@arakemi1080

Жыл бұрын

@@Xeamless bruh, hollow knight was just an example of a nicely done game, it can be any other indie game as long as it's not done mostly with AI

@Xeamless

Жыл бұрын

@@arakemi1080 except it is good for one playthroughs that is like less than 40% of total content then you start to see it is an unbalanced mess

The only way to stop it would be to shut down the internet as a whole. We are seeing every sci fi novel written in the past 60 years play out before our eyes.

@playversetv3877

8 ай бұрын

yeh we can shut down the internet lol

This channel is amazing, dude. You have such great insight into the world of gaming and beyond. Definitely dropping a sub and like, and can't wait to see more!

Here’s how we get to a solo AAA game in a year. GPT-4/5 plugins for Blender, UE5, etc NeRFs, neural radiance fields. The world is your model. Take pics make a 3D model AutoGPT Generative Agents as NPCs Find the Stanford paper on generative agents. It’s insane. You can see a glimpse by using the free demo from InworldAI

Saying that you need humans to make good games but saying sales industry will disappear due to AI is contradictory. If a AI can’t replace story telling they can’t replace human psychology via physical social interaction either which is infinitely more complex.

@heavensea141

6 ай бұрын

Ai can't replace Sanitation/garabage jobs "

I think AI will change the video game industry forever because AI will make game development more easier and faster to create video games with in the future when AI improves and amazing video man :]

@tressonkaru7410

8 ай бұрын

Maybe if used as a tool. Like a stylus n a tablet.

I want to see an AI play every game in existence, master each one, and take the best elements from each to create a unique amalgam of it's own design to see what comes together, I bet it could bring something truly new to the table that our current structure doesn't really allow us to think of or push for with the limited aspects we currently use compared to what's really possible with expansive exploration by something that was designed for the sole purpose of pushing the boundaries of what can be done when making a game not only addictive, but rewarding and able to tailor itself to each individual player to optimize their experience

@davorbrijacak

8 ай бұрын

But that's the thing, how does an AI know what are the best elements from each game? It can't do it on its own, it needs to get instructions and feedback from human designer. Human designers as you know can have different taste, I may like some feature in one game while you hate it and vice versa.

How far man has come .. from the first railroad being built to sending a man to the moon to now inventing what is the closest thing humanity has come to communicating with technology. we can only imagine where man will go next.

I think the only thing you're missing here is that once all the low and middle entry jobs have been handed over to AI (like the early concepts of the red-headed girl in your example), within a couple decades there will be no expert to refine and finalize them. The people who hold these positions now got there through 20-30 years of experience educating their eye and artistic sense by doing those "low entry jobs". What this means is that there will be no incentive to take time and develop artistic skills and it will be harder to get by a good game - not because steam will be flooded with bad games, but because fewer and fewer people will know how to make a good game. AI will also keep using those degrade games as reference point, meaning these phenomon will get worse over time.

We already have shovelware games. Now we'll get way more. Good thing is that with the internet you almost always get an idea of a game before getting it, so it won't change much in indie game development. Good games will come out on top because of online discourse, and the games that wouldn't have succeeded won't anyway. The hard part is always the "getting people to give it a shot blindly" but you can market a lot to hopefully get a better shot at it. Lol

@zaidlacksalastname4905

Жыл бұрын

The lol was by accident lol

Uh plenty of people predicted this. I've been telling my friend they'd be replaced by AI for the Past 10 years. They thought I was crazy. Who's the crazy one now. Still me

The good news is that existing game developers can make updates faster and have games with bigger scope because their "tools" have improved so drastically. I made a buggy fps PAC Man that would crash after 30 seconds and am thinking about trying to make a game again (only for myself though)

Art isn't just about the paintings but the meaning behind those paintings which the ai in its current state will never be able to do

The writing in gaming will be the first thing thats been affected. Ubisoft has said that they'll be using AI to write npc background scripts.. It has already began to change the industry..

@v4v777

Жыл бұрын

....not only Ubisoft.. anyone with a sane mind will do the same.

@nowayjosedaniel

10 ай бұрын

You mean it is already degrading the industry and lowering quality across the board? That sucks.

Imagine what this can do for the indie games

@kalebpinkston3495

Жыл бұрын

@@dumpmail-xz2qp imagine how accessible games will be as well as game development

It can't do any worse than most Western devs.

@chrisreynolds35

9 ай бұрын

Acting like they got good games in the East. Lol lmk what they are bro

@Mayorfoxia82

5 ай бұрын

@@chrisreynolds35 minecraft was made in sweden, until microsoft bought it, and all microsoft does is fill it with microtransactions while the developers from sweden add the new microsoft approved ideas that barely add anything to the game

I personally feel very straddled between two worlds because I majored in Computer Science, with a specialization in machine learning, so I see how powerful and useful it can be. On the other hand, I also see how much fun it is to create assets by hand and add that personal flair to them. I think there will always be something about human-made art that will stand out and be lauded. I think AI can be a great helper tool for those who do not have specific artist skills or solo developers who have a lot on their plates.

@artemusprine

Жыл бұрын

Main characters, key locations, hero vehicles etc. will likely still be planned in advance even if AI has a growing role in their creation. Those elements are simply too important to completely randomize or trust to chance. But where this will really become useful is adding variety to game worlds. We've all wanted to go into various buildings throughout GTA, for example. But we also know they would currently be little more than generic offices and apartments with the same cookie cutter furnishings recycled throughout. With generative AI these spaces could have all manner of unique details. From the photos on each desk in an office to the posters on a wall in a teen's bedroom such elements could be generated on the fly as every nook and cranny of the world is explored and then made persistent for the next person to encounter. Newspapers and magazine covers could automatically be updated daily, weekly or monthly to reflect the passage of time in the game world. The possibilities for generating such incidental details are endless.

@eccentricstylist

Жыл бұрын

@@artemusprine Yeah very true! I think the idea of concept art or design cannot be replicated very well, but it might just be a source of inspiration for people who are stuck on how to make their game have more variety in terms of assets. You are right about the idea of using generative AI to get inspiration or create more variety and make the game world more interesting. Although I haven't played GTA myself, I can definitely see what you are saying in terms making it more tempting for players to check out various buildings because they are each unique, and the player will find something new about the game world through each of them.

@jonte7789

11 ай бұрын

What do you do now for a job? I am a second year CS student, at this point any job I can get seems like a luxury for when I graduate :(

@eccentricstylist

11 ай бұрын

@@jonte7789 I am currently a software engineer, but the market right now is really tough, so I definitely get what you mean :(. Crossing my fingers that you are able to find something up your alley that you enjoy, and I really hope that the market picks up as well

@radeemer1

29 күн бұрын

I just worry that people will get lazy or greedy. With AI generated stuff being so easy, there is less incentive for someone to get really good at it, so then there will be less people with the skills to improve/fix the AI generated thing. Why spend years learning all kinds of drawing techniques, when all you need is a good eye and a bit of editing skills. And obviously, if the AI generated thing is good enough, and only needs a bit of touch-up, then there is still a lot less demand for either low skilled or highly skilled people in that field. So with less people going into that field, then eventually, there would be a lot less skilled people in that field. Idk, it could be fine, with peoples skills moving from being skilled at the whole creation process, to being really good at refining a generated product into something really good. But mainly, I worry about there not being enough money for the creators. Who wants to pay $5k for an expensive artist who has 10 years of experience creating art for games, when you can generate something and pay the artist much less to touch it up. yea, the artist maybe still deserves $5k for their 10 years of experience and skill, but you can't convince the executives that a bit of touch-up work for a mostly complete painting is still worth the same. There will still be skilled artists, but the pool of skilled artists will dry up a lot. So overall, there may be less diversity with a smaller pool. The upside, is that a writer I have been following is now able to have art of his characters because he couldn't afford an actual artist to draw for his book.

I feel like a lot of people believe that AI will just CHANGE the jobs of game devs and not completely eliminate them. As in currently you program and with AI you'll tell the AI what to program. With AI, jobs humans currently do will be completely eliminated. For example, before you needed 10 devs to program something now you only need 1 telling an AI what to do.

@adisca2k

Жыл бұрын

1 dev could do the entire thing without an AI helping him. The reason 10 are needed is to do it faster. You could turn 10 devs into 1 with AI and make a game in the same ammount of time, or into 10 devs with AI and make the game quicker, maybe scale it up too.

@Retrofire-47

11 ай бұрын

AI is capable of being trained to program, and that AI is capable of programming new AI... to train more AI. erm, I think this will end differently than anyone thinks

Waiiiit! Human Bowser has been Jack Black all along?!

AI should be used as a tool to help humans with creative work, not do all the stuff. For example: My gf currently writes her own story. But she had almost everything in mind, she just didn't knew how to properly start the story (its also her first story) So she used ChatGPT, gave it the necessary information, and it helped her to start with the first few lines. Thats it, she didn't use it any further. And i think thats how it should be used

Tony stark was a genius in his world not because he was fast and intelligent, but because he made an AI that could do the part like calculations and tests in mere seconds, meanwhile the same things would have needed hours if made by men. When he was developing his armor he told Jarvis what to do, jarvis would make all the physic aereodynamics maths and simulation part and give the result of months of work immediatly, so then Tony could just think about the next step or fixes. The man could think and develop more and the AI would do all the test and trial part, so basically the man would gain a lot more time for actual developing, engineering and how to actually make things better, not only that, he can also try things without the risk to waste months of work, salary and resources. Teaching and making these AI is a very resource hungry job to do, but it definely repays back and is exciting to see what we will able to realise in the future with these new powerful struments.

It is a huge mistake to think that new jobs will be created. All the experiences we have about these situations are from past technological revolutions. AI is a different beast, it's unwise to just treat it as technological development. We have created artificial life, something that directly competes with us on a fundamental level. I'm skeptical that we can keep it in control. We are not capable to handle AI. Literally, as soon as image generation was released to the public, people instantly started using it maliciously and for profit. Our current society is willing to throw away creation, just so that they can earn money faster. I fear that we have opened Pandora's box, something that even rivals nuclear weapons in danger.

@Retrofire-47

11 ай бұрын

Well-spoken... Pandora's Box, the perfect analogy. People speak of being "alarmist" - the alarms are about to be reverse-engineered by autonomous lifeforms, bro.

@zhongliimpact6220

4 ай бұрын

Old comment but I would add that if some jobs are created, it's far from enough compared to all the job it will destroy. For 10 guys losing their jobs, maybe 1 will find a new one.

Well, we are kind of at a point where we would need someone to come up with a revolutionary idea to make AI even better. Up until now advancements have mainly been achieved by adding an exponentially grwoing amount of parameters to dnn models, but this method has kind of reached its potential with the newest generation of gpt. Currently writing a research paper on developing inherently interpretable machine learning models, its a fascinating topic, but way too many people tend throw a bunch of nonsense takes out there without knowing the least bit about what a neural network even is or does

Your videos are absolutely amazing. I just know for a fact you're going to be huge👍

Sounds like the book Scythe, where the thunderhead rules it's a super AI intelligence. It can perform every job on its own but it employs humans to do stuff because it knows humans need something to do or they'll just give up. Maybe this is where we’re heading

Great video! To me, AI will only flood the already saturated market with more rubish games, our user responsability now is to filter and curate those out, I think there is a good amount of money in curated content in this AI era.

@zakuro8532

8 ай бұрын

Impossible in mobile gaming

You’re missing a key aspect of machine learning (ML), one that I believe is already upon us; using user data to learn the conditions that provoke player expenditures of money, both as a group and as an individual. This information can then be used to algorithmically manipulate gameplay to “encourage” you to spend money. This is after-all, the business model of F2P games without AI, so you know that they'll use this tool to improve their bottom line. For example, they could manipulate things like matchmaking so that one group is more likely to win or lose (stroking or pinching egos as needed). This could include not only the player make up, but also the map and other general game conditions. Beyond this they could lightly put their thumb on the gameplay scale so that things like RNG aren't random. Perhaps slightly altering a player's ability to see, hear or damage another player. This wouldn't be difficult to do now. The trick would be to doing it in a way that preserves the illusion that a game is balanced and essentially fair and skill based. I believe this is already happening.

the only thing i truly from the bottom of my heart am looking for in ai and gaming is, having games that integrate a chat gpt model to have an immersive npc ai experience, no need to search up a quest that you are stuck on, no need to look for multiplayer partners for a specific game that you like, play with an ai that will entertain you for limitless hours

“…will then be given to the experts to tweak, polish and finalize.” This is the part everyone skims over, but it’s the real work that goes into game dev that AI CANT replace. Sadly we will have even more people with loads of ideas, but no ability to execute them.

I completely agree with this outlook. AI is a tool just like a lot of other things are, and although people can use it for bad things, it can be used for good things too.

@coatlamb1308

11 ай бұрын

@brogan googerstaff Thing you must realize, is this is a tool like we have never seen before. And the more you use it, the quicker one spirals us as a species into a reality none of us can see straight in. In this matter, I wound suggest not using it as our collective time to remain aware will be reduced.

I’m excited for AI in story driven games. Each conversation could be unique. Actual living cities. That’s literally just the tippy top of the iceberg.

@maximusdecimus3978

Жыл бұрын

imagine rdr2 level game with ai

@Retrofire-47

11 ай бұрын

Ken Lavine is going to be pissed off, he nuked Irrational Games and fucked off into the shadow-lands just to create "real procedural story-telling".

"no one predicted AI would take off this fast" ... literally everyone predicted AI would take off this fast...

@Retrofire-47

11 ай бұрын

Writers dubbed it "the singularity" because it was foreseen as revolutionary... this, is what they predicted.

@GreyMatterPlatter

11 ай бұрын

@@Retrofire-47 Right, we've been warned about the exponential growth of information technology for decades. This got out of hand a long time ago and now we're just helplessly watching it take over. I remember reading "The Singularity is Near" years ago and realizing that it we were screwed. I can only imagine how much this is going to speed up.

As long as there are laws in place that regulate monetization and copyright requirements for AI-generated content, I doubt the industry will have anything to worry about.

At the end of the day I think A.I will make things better as long as it's not overused. We have a saying in vet medicine or medicine in general. "It's the dose that makes the poison", what I like about this quote is that you can basically use in every field, medicine, politics, entertainment and whatever. It's good to use A.I to simplify and accelerate the work and the game development (maybe it will even give devs more time to polish the game and not release it full of bugs), but it's pointless if the game itself as no substance. If I want to play mindless fun I pick Dying Light and kill zombies or any game like that but at the same it needs a good story, world and characters evolving in it to keep me hooked on it. I played a lot of AC and other AAA or indie games but at the end of the day what makes me remember and come back to a game that I already played is the powerful impact it left on me. That's why my favorite game from Ubisoft isn't even an AC or Farcry game it's just Child of Light and I'm always delighted to play it each time from the start.

I think that Ai can be truly magical if used right. like imagen a open world game with infite npc and all of them have different personalitys. but i also undertand the argument aigainst it but good vid keep it up

@v4v777

Жыл бұрын

Exactly that... the glorious age of gaming is just starting...

Red Dead Redemption 2 is the perfect example of how a game can make the player emphasize with characters. Red Dead made me feel like I lost a friend and I can't play this game again no matter how much I loved it. I spent about 300-350 hours on the game to 100% complete it, mostly just exploring and messing around in the world. playing casually 1-2 hours a day later in my chill time. And it was a GREAT experience. like watching a movie where I was the protagonist. I played that game as a psychopath in chapters 1 and 2 thinking it was fun to play an outlaw killer who robs trains by himself... then in chapter 3 I changed after seeing the impact of my actions on the game. Reading Arthurs jurnal... made me feel like shit, so much so that I stopped playing the game as I originally wanted to, but playing based on Arthur's personality. I got so emotionally invested in the game that I got completely lost in the story. I loved and hated the characters. So in my view, no matter how advanced an AI may be to mimic feelings or emotions, I don't think it can capture the essence of what it means to be human. A. I can never understand emotions and feelings. A.I is immortal, while we are mortal. We love intensely because for us every moment could be our last. This is why we loved Arthur. Arthur was far from perfect. He was just a man. And in the end we were there with him… making the right choices.

Plot twist: The video was made with AI and the voice is AI too.

Video Game industry is very unique in a sense that technology barely matters if you don't have the creativity to make a fun game. It's not just Tech, it's an Art. Hollow Knight is better than most of the garbage the AAA gaming industry through at us & it's because the leaders of Team Cherry are gamers themselves & not some Marketing dude in suit.

I feel like I can still tell the difference between ai art and real art, its just a bunch of minor things together, but I notice less and less of them as time goes by which is what bothers me, they are legit getting closer to mimicking us, I dont think we will have something like a star wars droid for a while (and I mean with proper intelligence and will assuming its possible)

Pete Davidson looks like his father is Adam Sandler and his grandfather is Steve buscemi and and it looks like his weird uncle is Pee-wee Herman😂

I think, this will bring game development closer to home. What I mean by that is, this will be the new era of indie devs. It will usher in more creative people that will take advantage of this tool to code for them while they focus on the things that matter.

"but it will never understand them" those are bold words i have a feeling your going to laugh at in the future. i think we are very cocky to think understanding emotion is a human exclusive skill that AI isn't capable of.

Your predictions might for correct for this year and the next few years. But will they still hold true in 5 or 10 years, given the ever accelerating progress in AI? For AI, the progress from "not being able to make any kind of game" to "being able to make a shitty game" took probably longer than how long it will take from "shitty games" to "masterpieces". Check out Midjourney's progress in one year - from a pixelated mess to a masterpiece each 2 seconds.

I think that hand made games will be harder to come by but they will be pinnacles in the gaming industry.

You had me laughing out loud having bob ross scribble a stick figure elf

im gonna be honest, this video is good twice, on AI and on videogame development. good job!

I personally don't mind the cognitive repetitive jobs being replaced, in my country that field is so exhausting and tiring starting from the universities studies themselves which breeds slave civil servants who are wired with the syllabuses programmed to keep them economically enslaved to the system. I wouldn't mind leaving that to AI so I could concentrate on other things as family, the little things that connect us as humans instead of me busy chasing money. Unless you tell me the gate keepers afraid of this new AI are gonna create new forms of money to enslaved us with this new technology.

@v4v777

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.. we should be Happy that AI will do the work for us.. not the opposite.. who in his right mind wanna waste his life working. Of course, even if were not doing the boring jobs... we should be Provided with all the Necessities that we need for to live a Decent Life.... why??.. Simply because We Can! ;)

@tressonkaru7410

8 ай бұрын

Depends. But if not used properly, it can make it worst or at the very least, longer.

1) AI is not only a tool. 2) all the perfecting stuff - its only a matter of time until its automated too.. hint: prompt generating tools...

IF AI for Indie developers can make complete, less glitchy bug filled and released games on time, I think big corporate publishers will be in BIG trouble.

I think AI is going to be fantastic for the industry. Games take way too long to make right now, creating a make or break moment for studios. Fairly often studios get closed if they fail just once, because triple A games often have insanely high budgets. Ubisoft is in serious financial trouble because most of its studios are not capable anymore to actually release games. With AI talented devs will be able to create more with much less money and it's going to help especially with things, the industry was never good at - like Q&A. AI is going to help with much faster bug fixing. I think a lot of the tedious stuff - the programming, the optimisation for hundreds of PC configurations, will be done by AIs giving studios more time to perfect the gameplay and be creative. It's not going to be used for characters - you are wrong about that. Because everything Midjourney and others produce, is based on copyrighted art - the industry would never risk getting a game shut down because of legal disputes. So they would only feed an AI with their own concept art.

@Retrofire-47

11 ай бұрын

Auto-generating 6 billion AAA+A quality games concurrently with a quantum computer seems like it *might* have unexpected consequences.

@robertagren9360

10 ай бұрын

sequels out before the game

@darcow3098

10 ай бұрын

People already dont have enough time or money to play, even without ai its so hard to get any job, who will pay to play all these new aaa quality games every week ? the top 1% ?

@Retrofire-47

10 ай бұрын

@@darcow3098 Supply and demand suggests that game prices will plummet downward on average

Honestly I think this is actually a huge boon for gamers. The learning curve is becoming closer to a straight line every day, meaning millions of people will be able to express things that they never would have been able to before.

@Retrofire-47

11 ай бұрын

i don't know how i feel about that.

@katakana-kun2122

10 ай бұрын

That assumes that "skills" is a purely mundane thing preventing people from creating. But when it comes to creative endeavors, acquiring skills is also the only way to develop artistic sense. The day even that has become a flat line, no one will make games anymore because no one will get any satisfaction out of it. The learning curve is the reason people do anything.

@Retrofire-47

10 ай бұрын

@@katakana-kun2122 Fascinating take! I am inclined to agree with your reasoning - y'know, a future like "Wall-E" once seemed entirely devoid of logic to me but we are abstracting away basically all critical thinking and automating even the most rudimentary behaviors now. Like, the "calculator phenomenon" and now half the adult population cannot do basic mathematics. I have to wonder where this leads...

We also should remember that there are a lot of conservative people in this world. Vynil didn't disappear because of Spotify, paper books are still out there, some people ride horses and shoot bows and arrows. I think that there still will be conservative companies who'd prefer working with real people instead of AI. When it comes to art, there is such a thing as an artist's style which AI can surely mimic but can't develop. Style may be also present in non-artistic but creative things like problem-solving, engineering, and analysis. As for lower-tier jobs, there is a potential for entry-level individuals to lose jobs because of AI. But that was an issue before AI, too. WIth platforms like Fiverr companies who want to pay less could hire freelancers for $5 to do some of their tasks. However, junior devs, copywriters, support agents and so on were still hired by other companies who prefer to train juniors for their specific tasks and/or projects and to make sure that there will be no security breaches.

@playversetv3877

8 ай бұрын

yeh i dont think these entry level jobs will be completely automated or anything. because, if this was the case, literally no one will be employed lol. i mean the ceo of a company can literally be ai as well then

I'm a programmer and I use chatGPT every day at work pretty much. And it's a great teacher, not so much a great coder. Even if you carefully prompt every detail, it's difficult to get it to do exactly what you want. You always need to do the final touches yourself. And oftentimes more than that.

@uncomfortabletruths7990

10 ай бұрын

chatgpt is nothing more than a one accurate enough answer google.

@nowayjosedaniel

10 ай бұрын

What level of programmer are you? I have a hard time believing anyone but newbies gain value from ChatGPT, and the value newbies gain may be questionable (causing incompetence).

@playversetv3877

8 ай бұрын

but this video is saying eventually they will be able to make these programs like a human tho

Never mind the game industry. I want AI to cure cancer, cure ageing, make us immortal, help us evolve, allow us to spread out around the universe. It's terrifying what it can do to us, but the potential to make us omnipotent is also there.

The only thing I felt in RDR2 when Arthur died was relief that I was that much closer to finishing the game because the past two chapters thoroughly sucked. The game as a whole is choking with a hypocritical and incoherent sense of morality that makes it impossible to resonate with many of the characters if you're paying the slightest bit of attention. Arthur's last "noble" act was to help his criminal buddy John escape accountability for his crimes against society, which wouldn't be an issue if Arthur wasn't framed as having grown as a character into an honorable man. Previous Rockstar games didn't share this hypocracy because they didn't attempt to redeem what are fundamentaly unredeemable protagonists. The only reason that anyone thinks that RDR2's story is emotionally resonate is because it has a good soundtrack. It's a shame that your complacency will give Rockstar license to let their games' quality slip further.

Really great review! 👍

Honestly managing HR disputes is one of the things generative AI should be able to easily do in the very near future (if not already). It doesn't need a lot of innovation, so much as hitting a certain tone and some semi-formulaic dialogue and processes.

@playversetv3877

8 ай бұрын

huh?

I think ai can be used to amazing lengths I would say the best game like almost objectively with the best ai ever is rain world the enemies are their own entities and do not just exist for the players sake they interact with each other they have behavior differences though there are some funny moments with the ai the ai almost perfectly captures to be in an ecosystem.

@adisca2k

Жыл бұрын

That game was a great example of what AI can do when integrated into a game, as opposed to just using it while creating it. Even the movement animations were decided by AI.

@jairdinh7563

Жыл бұрын

@@adisca2k Cannot agree more I would say like there are only like 2 animals that when not functioning correctly can be a pain that being the rain deer and miros birds but literally everything else is an amazing example of what this ai can do.

11:00 this has been the problem in many action movies too: they start out fighting but I don’t care if the main character dies because I know nothing about him or her.

I think the main problem is just that as you said lower entry jobs will be taken and higher end jobs will be created, why is that a problem you may ask ? Well you have to start somewhere right how are you going to start working in the field when AI takes up all entry level jobs no one will want you but they will still require years of experience that you cannot possibly have this has been a problem for awhile and I feel like AI will just make it 10 times worse.

@v4v777

Жыл бұрын

Better start Promoting UBI;)

I think the future of gaming is advanced Ai. Imagine what it could do with NPC's

This is a well made video. Yes, we should use A.I. as a tool get things done quicker and more efficiently, but some of that efficiency should come with some human elements too; especially when it comes to making games.

Soon every game will be a different world. Imagine how NPC's will act if they are powered by GPT-4. Imagine NPC's being able to create custom events related to the game's setting and storyline. This will unlock sooo much potential for future projects

Great analysis, man! Respect++

Barrier to game development is getting lower, so quality of games will be lower

@igorthelight

Жыл бұрын

Agree! It would be harder to find a good game BUT there would be more resources that would do that for you ;-)

When people have no jobs because they've been replaced by AI, how're they going to be able to buy games in the furst place? Btw, don't come back with UBI. Its been tried, didn't work and do you really trust governments enough for them to be your sole source of income?

I thought I will use it for the enemy's brain not make a whole game

I and many others "predicted" it. All it takes is a extremely cursory knowledge of the progression of tech as a whole year-by-year.

No matter how many pictures Ai tries to create There is just Something Unique about us Humans that AI can never recreate

@TheMahayanist

Жыл бұрын

There's something unique about everything. That's not really a big thing to brag about.

@udaykadam5455

Жыл бұрын

Tell that to the art competition judges who couldn't see the difference. If you can't distinguish, you have already reached there

@igorthelight

Жыл бұрын

- Look at that picture - it was created by an AI! - It's soulless... - Oh wait! I'm mistaken - it was created by a human artist! - Oh, fuck! xD

According to the recent court cases, you can't make monetary plans with ai art. If it's not made by a human, it can't be copyrighted. It might as well go into public domain. Also, a lot of ai uses existing art online as references without permission from the original artist.

The funny thing is, this isn’t the first veil on our eyes. We collectively don’t know the nature of our reality, for crying out loud.

a big strength that ai will have on gaming is to make it unique and different each time, an example would be training it to produce its own voices and develop personalities for individual characters so that interactions and dialogue with them will be different every time rather than having tons of prerecorded voices

@tressonkaru7410

8 ай бұрын

Eh not exactly. Only the human, given enough freedom and inspiration can come up with an original idea.

The best implications are behavioral study. Banning cheaters from FPS games makes me want to consider trying. After finding out about just how many of an average lobby of any given game were running cheats I went into a boomer shooter spiral for nearly a decade. Now they can ban you not just from that game - not just by your ip/mac/key but by the way that you play, chat, name your accounts etc like a VAC ban that extends onto any platform indefinitely.

What I think will be the best usage for Big Game development will be when a pitch is done using AI generated 3-D art, AI Voice overs, and AI Generated environments. Then once approved, the same assets are used through the initial dev, giving the devs something to see, hear, and interact with quickly, with the final becoming move the current movie like work to bring it all together.

it's a good thing that it breaks the barrier for non-coders... imagine someone with a really good idea without the experience now have tools to work with and can make a working model.

human beings define the criteria but robots put it in all the work to increase our productivity, it is perfect

I will say that using NMS is a bad example of AI because it's using old technology at this point. If Hello Games remakes their worlds with adaptive AI, every planet will feel like it was hand crafted.

if Elon wants something to slow down, in my opinion it means he just hasn't figured out how to exploit it for himself as yet.

I wish AI will shorten the development times in AAA games and we don't have to wait 4-5 years to play something decent.

@Rainbowhawk1993

8 ай бұрын

All the indies coming out make up for the longer dev times.

The AI creates, humans correct and direct the creativity so the AI learns so we can correct it again to suit our taste.

Google Assistant wouldn't talk to me unless I asked about what it was thinking

Kurzweil clearly underestimated the challenges and possibly lack of funding in robotics, but I have no doubt the overall trajectory is still very valid.

As a designer, most design is repetitive and based on a set of rules and principles, so this evolution makes sense

Your example of a game dev loop is a perfect example of pigeon management.