All the doctors need to go back to paper forms. Too many old people answer calls and emails thinking it's their Dr. Because they are forced to create online accounts and complete web forms.

Ever thought about doing a monthly Q&A again like the old days? 🙏

Jordan, you wanted an interview on 'online crime and criminals'' and Chris has a very specific expertise and interest related to protecting his customers that are major customer facing internet services . I think this subject needs further interviews.

Thank you again, Dr. Peterson, for being a treasure to the western world; while most other media are covering inconsequential nonsense, you always have insightful talks with guests on issues that truly matter and need urgent attention from our governments.

I shared this with all the seniors I know. Thank you as this is such an important podcast topic

Excellent topic. Thanks for educating us. Wonderful!

@ahsahsahs9043

Күн бұрын

Absolutely 💯

Jordan, may you PLEASE speak with Hans Zimmer about story telling in music?! 🎶

@alexandermilewski7850

2 күн бұрын

And Ramin Dijwadi

@iconocast

2 күн бұрын

that would be most interesting indeed

@afringedgentian5426

Күн бұрын

Dr. Peterson does not take interview recommendations from the comment section. He talks to people he has made a connection with. And no amount of yelling at him in the comment section is going to chance that. Just so you know.

@alexandermilewski7850

Күн бұрын

@@afringedgentian5426 YA NEVA KNOW

@wesgeiger2037

22 сағат бұрын

​@@afringedgentian5426 the actual probability that peterson might see your comment, i actually believe, can be expressed as a percent integer. Hes emphasized several times how often he reads these, and it's also obvious youtube is his most dominant presence. You never know.

Jordan Peterson should be mandatory listening lol seriously. This should be on TV for the sleepers

@James-ys3um

Күн бұрын

Takes all kinds

@Anonymous.Wisper

Күн бұрын

Sleepers?

Excellent timing as always. Yes, the Internet absolutely needs that tactical persuasion within reason. Start with disabled veterans and work from there...

Excellent timing.

@markusmaximus6636

2 күн бұрын

Give them hell fire!!!!! Worst wordy wordy. Ya know

As a cyber security student I enjoyed this conversation

@jacksonstenger

2 күн бұрын

As a scammer and digital predator, I enjoyed this conversation

@DannyDanny-rn7ck

Күн бұрын

Why you studying to be a criminal?

@DannyDanny-rn7ck

Күн бұрын

Ethne techne are sub humans Ban social impact bonds crypto and ESG

@DannyDanny-rn7ck

Күн бұрын

Hashtag no Dilbert

@sbklink

Күн бұрын

Es

Thank you for your work, Dr. Peterson!

How long will it take for the digital police force to become the ministry of truth?

I would love to partake in this endeavor. I prefer truth and logic over profit. Any form of profit.

Thank you Dr. Peterson!

Hello Mr Peterson .Like To Meet You One Day .All The Best

You are awesome.

As someone who works in the cybersecurity half of online safety (I secure big business assets), this was a lovely conversation! It reminded me why I love this field and the reason why I do this work. We don’t talk enough about the human side of these scams! Stay vigilant everyone; It’s very dangerous out there!

We need to narrow the definition of cyber crime. In Australia today this includes exchanging info that the current government does not. Like . So it is best to name the crime and in this way allow for clear cut accountability. If I believe an online ad claiming that drinking rosemary tea helps against covid it’s my business, not of police. That’s very different from someone stealing an ID

Very interesting and insightful discussion Dr. Peterson. And welcome to San Diego BTW, as a native I want you to know how very welcome you are and how honored we are to have you as our guest.

Interesting conversations as always. Thank you

I do seem to have turned into that very irritating person who goes around shaking her head sagely and gravely intoning, “Upon my soul, it’s all there in Lewis. _That Hideous Strength_ and _The Abolition of Man_ . Lewis called it seventy-odd years ago.” And I do believe that if academia had embraced Lewis and Tolkien and Macdonald and Chesterton, rather than the postmodernists, we would not be in the pretty kettle of fish in which we find ourselves at present. Spencer Klavan made an excellent argument that Lewis was the great 20th century intellectual, and I’ve been thinking about that.

@StanGraham1

Күн бұрын

Andrew Klavan?

@afringedgentian5426

Күн бұрын

@@StanGraham1Spencer is Andrew’s son. No relation.

Very helpful conversation!! Thank you! Really like Dr. Peterson’s beautiful jacket.

Great interview.

Great interview!!

An interesting suggestion: impersonating the scammers. Olson mentions impersonating victims, elderly grandmas etc., in order to entrap predators. What if we did the opposite, impersonating scammers - and when susceptible people fall victim to the scam, you educate them on the mistake they made so they can learn and have a second chance

@meritholdingllc123

2 күн бұрын

The guilty will say, when caught, that they were just trying to educate the person, not scam them. Being often in India and other foreign countries, we really have no legal recourse against them.

@martinlutherkingjr.5582

2 күн бұрын

Nobody wants to fund that because it isn’t very scalable. A scammer can have many victims but with your approach you’re only saving 1 person at a time.

@jacksonstenger

2 күн бұрын

@@martinlutherkingjr.5582Doesn’t even have to be a government project, I might volunteer to do it just for fun, idgaf. And the impact of scamming one person is that their whole family knows about it and maybe others - scamming and educating someone could really educate dozens of people in that case

@iss8504

Күн бұрын

Besides the gullible will fall for a different scam. They change these up regularly.

@boxelder9167

Күн бұрын

Many times a scam is going to entice people based on their own greed or vice. Perhaps if people were more interested in the pursuit of virtue they could avoid a large percentage of scams. I once saw a guy that gave out his bank account information to a guy that claimed to be a Nigerian prince who was promising a fortune in return… 🤔 Maybe encourage them to invest more in studying the Bible. They would have learned the love of money was the root of all kinds of evil.

Congrats on 8 mill 🎉

Thanks for the wakeup on cyber crime. There's countries that have schools for cyber crimes.

I think that opening statement speaks volumes everybody’s walking around with a spy in their pocket that is spying on them, but yet we can’t solve these unsolved mysteries, daily, reoccurring unsolved mysteries

A typical dating scam is when a random number texts you pretending to know you. “Hey, is this John?”Usually Chinese do this from Southeast Asia.

So excited

This was an eye opening conversation into how widespread the problem is. And it easy to hypothesize on how bad things could get in no time. A good antidote to this problem might be creating a secure environment for individuals prone to predation, to foster the critical awareness needed to see these dangers. Foster this awareness by gamifying the opportunity of distinguishing between the safe and the dangers. You could do this in a game-like virtual place. A Good, fun, simple videogame could teach people all the online skills needed to be safe.

What kind of freedom do you want, freedom of choice or freedom from choice, both are still freedom but served up differently

@Madonnalitta1

2 күн бұрын

No, the latter isn't freedom.

@LordElgor

2 күн бұрын

@@Madonnalitta1 how so?

@thatkidredhead

2 күн бұрын

If you have no choice you have no freedom

@vickieandrew1010

2 күн бұрын

Let's start your debate with respect for each other Sir.

@thatkidredhead

2 күн бұрын

@@vickieandrew1010everything I type is with all due respect and best of intentions

Awesome

I miss you bro, and will NEVER forget you, you changed my life❤

30:05 What he’s suggesting seems very dangerous to me. It sounds like he is suggesting we seize and institute a capture and tracking mechanisms into any structure or system that a criminal could conceivably use. By Law. By Courts. By Police. The issue of course is that we use those Systems. By all means, if a Company or Organization wants to set up a System that way and discloses it. Fine. It’s Search and Seizure, and there are good reasons not to structure a Service or Architecture to actively store and keep those records. If you don’t keep Sensitive Data, it cannot be taken. Ever. Even as Tech advances. Obfuscation serves as the number one form of Safety from all manner of targeting. If I’m transporting a locked case in my trunk, and I do not know it’s contents, that is a fantastic way to never know them. If my delivery destination is transmitted more and more accurately as I travel, then erases itself from the receiving device, that is great defense. And it’s legally protected as a means of self defense. Great op sec. If you compromise that Service you are doing 6 things not legally allowed, and compromising the Market and Service of Security offered per say. The means of doing this as proposed is everything. That’s why, even if a Company Advertised that it kept immaculate Records, and looked through everything to make sure you are getting taken advantage. And of course submitting anything at all sketchy or suspicious to the Police is a not a great pitch. Either for children or elderly. Because every single one of those things is an attack vector.

@AndrewDasilvaPLT

Күн бұрын

@chickenmonger123 - There were several times where he made claims where wanting more access to data to protect us. This gives me scary feelings.

Freedom in this age is Questionable, Including Server abilities to pickup any individual and take there Devices under there Control especially by downloading apps that identify there Devices as actual Developers and control advertising that can be Profitable to there own Business.

I get at least two spam calls per day. I doubt that any of the pretty young single women that want to be my friend are young single women. I have never heard of anyone being prosecuted for spamming.

🔹✨ *_A.I. isn't about making machines more human like, but to make humans more machine like!_* ✨🔹

Hope your doing well Mr. Jordan.

Sounds like a Digital Bill of Rights might be warranted.

Yes to Jesus, no to bankers

@James-ys3um

Күн бұрын

Amen 🙏

Great conversion, but one consideration is that scammers can and do innovate without hindrance, whereas gov policy takes months or years to change. Stripping away privacy to better identify scammers would last all of 10 minutes before the scammers adapt, while citizens are left with the consequences of widespread surveillance.

Had no idea there was such an epidemic of 70-something seniors getting scammed on dating sites. I assumed most people born in that generation wouldn't even be technologically literate enough to turn on a computer, let alone navigate a web page.

@janicehethcote7852

Күн бұрын

I'm almost 60 and grew up with computers (from 9th grade on)..... I had computer literacy courses at university, every job I've held required computer skills. Lol.

Informative & Timely message!! Good show 👍

50:41 Internet Providers should be on this. Social Media. Online sellers. I don't shop on eBay any more after not getting what I ordered a couple times in a row. Used to save money, now it's throwing money away. 3rd party sellers on Amazon 0/2 or Walmart 0/2 online. Fail. 1:10 :10. I don't buy from 3rd party sellers anymore. Amazon , keyboard, not properly wrapped, broken. Shipping=cost. Cycling shoes, road not mountain. Shipping to china $80. Walfart: brother, AC not working My friend, single mother bought a computer for son. Arrived with a password. Useless. They sent her another computer after she threatened to sue them after giving her the run around for 9 months.

Dr. Peterson, please Interview Jay Dyer on philosophy religion geopolitics etc

@Wingedmagician

2 күн бұрын

Jay Dyer, the more intellectual Alex Jones.

@afringedgentian5426

2 күн бұрын

Dr. Peterson does not take interview recommendations from the comment section. He talks to people he has made a connection with. Just so you know.

@PepeTheToad

2 күн бұрын

@@afringedgentian5426 thanks for the information. I hope Jonathan Pageau might possibly raise his name in their off-camera conversation

It’s a game.. I see people laughing all the time because they know what they are doing and who they are doing it to. I believe what could possibly be of help, might be, to get a phone that has no internet access. Gives piece of mind to the elders and younger’. I’m getting ready to try myself for certain transactions. Thanks for having me.

@celestialcircledance

Күн бұрын

I still get all sorts of robocalls on my landline .

Why is it a 14 year old doing these things? 7:30 What about a 30 year old responsible adult?

As long as we're focused on making money first these problems will remain.

Dearest Dr. Peterson, my review of your Boston lecture is out today from Wrong Speak Publishing, entitled “For the Glory of God: An Evening With Jordan Peterson.” You might like it, and then again you might not, because there isn’t anything in it for you to be grumpy about. Except I tease you a little bit but you will see it’s the spirit of play. And I did say that you are an absolute sweetheart in person, because you are, and that might ruin your reputation as a curmudgeon, but that’s the way it is. And if you do like it, if you could please share it, it might help expose my work to paying editors who might like to have me write for them and that would be helpful. But only if you find merit in my work. With Ruth Anne’s love

Jordan, this topic is so crucial, and the theme of victimhood spreads so deep! I was visiting a local police station in S.A.: In the cue infront was this African grandma.. Shame, she was a victim of cyber theft. Now, couple the real victimhood experienced from the internet with the victimhood narrative systemic from S.A.'s political past, the cyber reality aggrivates people like this grandma, preventing her from overcoming this whirlpool of victimhood. Thank you for making more people aware. Do you think that, in the future, the public can hold company leaders that has a monopoly on these "cloud space" information-generators more seriously for such crimes? Can they be held accountable? Should they be held accountable?

Kudos to JP for asking good questions. Unfortunately I find the responses vague and abstract. And I have multiple cyber security certifications. So if you don’t understand this guy, don’t feel bad.

@James-ys3um

Күн бұрын

Seems to be painting the idea for the motive to be and do good. For his main priority.

I've started asking callers if they are a recording. If it's a recording, they keep talking and I hang up. If it's a person, I find that They will hang up. They hear "recording" and get scared. It's fun

Always Keep Your Private Information Protected especially thru Online...

Tactically engage India.

16:39 WOW

Is seems to me that making a billion fake personas and making it unknown who is real and who is not is one way to mix it up. The other would be to make a program for total restart. Something that would pretty much wipe me off the web once a year when you get a new device...if everyone in the u.s. did this it would be mayhem for anyone to track.

What about my digital assets ❓❓

Diablo walks our digital streets. With the head of Lillith, WE WILL WIN! Foward foward! Twirling upwards towards the light! 🎉

Fear/paranoia leads to higher walls be they pay-walls, physical walls, or governmental regulation walls. How tall are you trying to build Dr. Jordan?

I work in financial crimes and scammers are going to get better and better with AI. Haven’t watched the whole thing yet so not sure if it is mentioned, but the newest pain in our ass is that scammers are recording our voices from social media videos we post then use AI to call grandparents and ask for money. It can be anyone really but they target the elderly. We’ve come up with stupid code words that we’ll use to know that it is really us speaking haha. Knowing how your family members speak is a good way to know if it’s fake or not. We usually know certain words and phrases we like to use.

Any desk... Just download... And we can help you by controlling your phone laptop... Airplane ✈️ mode. Restart. 30:13

That comment about horsepower in terms of servers to run the A. I as they fight each other Got me thinking. For the past 2 years or so, most of my work has been fabricating structural steel for massive server farms. I believe it's a 5 year contract and it's either for Facebook or Google. I can't remember at the moment but that puts a few things into perspective, although I kind of had a rough idea Brewing already about how this could turn out still not sure what i think about that. Hopefully im building facilities for the good guys lol

The online world...as dangerous as the real world!

The only thing hard to fake hard to cheat and easy to spot

How do you give this information to someone whose hands are glued to their phone? I have tried for 4 years (since mid-2020) to tell people to leave social media and to only use the phone when they absolutely have to because of all the tracking and tracing. Now this? More reason to ditch the phone and stay off certain platforms. Thank you!!! 🤗

The 800 lb gorilla is the protection of personal data. Any company that gets compromised and leaks our data needs to face such huge penalties that other companies take data theft seriously. I work in critical infrastructure. It’s only pain that those in charge respond to, not doing the right thing. Don’t expect this to change unless the company could go bankrupt and or the director put in jail.

40:23 The technology is the problem and the solution. It can zoom through ads and learn to weed out scams just like people.

T/24’🇺🇸

19:02 How is this not described as digital stalking? Deliberate deception, concealed monitoring and targeted directly to the individual. Depending on what videos are provided to the algorithm, it could cause untold damage to the mental health of the target.

@BlackSheep_216

Күн бұрын

You are so right.

Have you ever thought about AI language translation? I seen it on dr. Sten Ekberg's yt channel. It completely freaked me out! great

26:52 Yeah well when grandma finds it necessary to mention how houses were 20,000 dollars when she was looking to buy them. All I can think to ask is What do we say about the victims of inflation?

Great talk but you lost me with the parasite thing. Sexual reproduction does not necessarily prevent transmission of disease to offspring as an evolutionary mechanism. Diseases can easily pass from father to mother then to baby from sexual or non-sexual contact. If he meant actual parasites like toxoplasmosis (round worm), they can be transmitted during pregnancy or during sex or in any kind of human to human bodily fluids.

You won a prize, just pay the shipping. Fake business: send Bitcoin.

They just have to make it so that people can’t just call my number or email me that easily. We have to resort to white listing. Otherwise snail mail me. That costs too much money for most scammers. But not white listing by me. I just want to choose my bank, or whatever, and the technical stuff is handled by the companies. I don’t want to have to deal with a list of phone numbers or email addresses. They can come up with some sort of ID mechanism that is between source and email provider or cellular phone provider.

A grandmother received that letter that she owed $500. And told to call a number and she was kept on the phone as she went to the bank with instructions from the caller and don’t quite know how she lost $17,000 from her bank savings account even when the bank asked her if this is a scan and she continued listening to the caller .

@ 12:23 "People believe what they see on computers." Just as before digital technology, people believed what they saw on TV, and heard on the radio. And before that, what they saw in print. It's interesting to consider this, which has been with us ever since technologies to store and share information were developed and became widely used. Almost as if there is some magic in the printed word, and in the broadcast word, whether audio, visual, or digital. It would certainly seem like magic to an illiterate. As we like to joke about in social media: "It's on the Internet, so it must be true!"

I have lost money to a company I thought was an actual stock broker. Fake businesses.

Elon had the same idea. So, Elon added a feature to X to weed out thieves and bots, that being an $8 paywall to have a verified account. Thus if you deal with them you are safer.

@terranhealer

Күн бұрын

Umm I don’t think that worked out very well if I recall correctly. People just paid to impersonate other people

Quite colourful today isn't?

SPORT

50:30 - "Telecom should be protecting you from data that enters your phone." No Thank You.

But they arent policing the street!

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It's theft on matter what. It affects people dramatically

Towers of Babel must be shaped like upside down pyramids.

In ur 70's u know all about these crimes

26:56 même le vol physique de matériel numérique dans les maison privés ainsi que leur donnés au Canada, n'est même pas prie en compte lors de vol au domicile. Pour des raisons de coût d'enquête. Ex 1000$ cela en vaux pas la peine pour la police.

Interesting you mentioned brand name and trust and how they are loosing that trust because of moving from entertainment safe for children to propaganda education for woke culture.

Delete the digital twin no one ever consented to it in the first place

Come on. Porn comprises at least 95% of internet activity 😂

@Therealhtrinity

Күн бұрын

In the majority of you tube videos are porn bots, mostly the first “comment”, with a naked behind profile picture

I think I am a part of the evolution of humanity. If I had been born in the 20th century, I would have been shot. The process of evolution of humanity is always in various ways. When I think about the world I will create in the future, I think I am the evolution of humanity. I will eat later. Let’s eat together, the doctor who achieved the evolution of mankind. 똘똘이 16살인데 살아있어요

+ 39:30 Making up a non existent identity to bait a “criminal”is as criminal as stealing someone else’s identity who exists.

- and of Joseph's coat of many colors ,given to him by his father Jacob ,and now being seen as towards it's illustrations

I appreciate the guy trying to simplify it to theft but the reality is these people are being convinced to send money by their own choice so are wanting people to have freedom of choice or freedom from choice. The reason it happens is because of ignorance which happens in more places than the internet

Amazing talk, I'm just waiting for all the "we're doomed", "they're taking over", and the countless other AI fear comments.

@afringedgentian5426

2 күн бұрын

Read C. S. Lewis “The Abolition of Man” and “That Hideous Strength” and understand what you are reading.

@mikekane2492

2 күн бұрын

It's not fear. It's legitimate criticism. By the same token, we could call the proponents of AI naively optimistic.

@emmang2010

2 күн бұрын

@ mikekane2492 the comments I described are fear based. There are legitimate criticisms presented in this talk but I'm not referring to most of what was presented.

@emmang2010

2 күн бұрын

@@afringedgentian5426 I'm aware of that book I believe and it's similar, but more realistic, than sci Fi movies. I'm a software developer and data scientist and literally create AI for one of the largest tech companies in the world. I know what I'm talking about.

@afringedgentian5426

2 күн бұрын

@@emmang2010so did Lewis.

"deal with internet crime the way they deal with street crime" ? That's the Worst analogy anyone could make. How are we dealing with street crime?

@alottaforchina6457

2 күн бұрын

Street crime is far less of an issue today than it was when the US first developed and engaged with streets. The internet is just over 20 years old - it's a wild west full of crime currently.

AI 🤯😨

LLM criminals? 17:23