Age of Sigmar 4: Gloomspite Gitz Faction Pack 2024 - Full Review
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0:00 Intro
1:03 Battle Traits
5:31 Bad Moon Loonshrine
7:55 Battle Formations
11:52 Heroic Traits
14:42 Artefacts of Power
16:40 Spell Lore
20:07 Manifestation Lore
21:24 Manifestation: Scuttletide
22:17 Manifestation: Mork's Mighty Mushroom
23:38 Manifestation: Malevolent Moon
24:23 Manifestation: Scrapskuttle's Arachnacauldron
25:16 Skragrott
27:57 Trugg
32:17 Fungoid Cave-Shaman
33:02 Gobbapalooza
35:15 Loonboss on Giant Cave Squig
37:10 Loonboss on Mangler Squigs
40:39 Loonboss
42:14 Rabble-Rowza
44:37 Squigboss with Gnasha-Squig
45:43 Webspinner Shaman
48:03 Webspinner Shaman on Arachnarok Spider
51:04 Dankhold Troggboss
53:03 Rockgut Troggoths
55:09 Fellwater Troggoths
57:14 Dankhold Troggoth
58:51 Boingrot Bounderz
1:00:43 Squig Hoppers
1:02:53 Squig Herd
1:05:20 Mangler Squigs
1:06:58 Snarlfang Riders
1:08:53 Sneaky Snufflers
1:10:25 Sporesplatta Fanatics
1:12:25 Loonsmasha Fanatics
1:14:49 Moonclan Stabbas
1:16:35 Moonclan Shootas
1:17:28 Spider Riders
1:18:42 Skitterstrand Arachnarok
1:20:24 Arachnarok Spider with Spiderfang Warparty
1:22:34 Arachnarok Spider with Flinger
1:24:13 Kragnos
1:26:44 Conclusion
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If someone wants to do timestamps for me as they watch that would be swell
@thehonestaspy102
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video Rob, excellent as always! Can we also address how funny it is that the giant mangler Squig has less rend on its jaws than the giant Squig? 😂 Not to mention the Loonboss on foot being markedly tougher than his Squig riding variant*
1:03 Battle Traits 5:31 Bad Moon Loonshrine 7:55 Battle Formations 11:52 Heroic Traits 14:42 Artefacts of Power 16:40 Spell Lore 20:07 Manifestation Lore 21:24 Manifestation: Scuttletide 22:17 Manifestation: Mork's Mighty Mushroom 23:38 Manifestation: Malevolent Moon 24:23 Manifestation: Scrapskuttle's Arachnacauldron 25:16 Skragrott 27:57 Trugg 32:17 Fungoid Cave-Shaman 33:02 Gobbapalooza 35:15 Loonboss on Giant Cave Squig 37:10 Loonboss on Mangler Squigs 40:39 Loonboss 42:14 Rabble-Rowza 44:37 Squigboss with Gnasha-Squig 45:43 Webspinner Shaman 48:03 Webspinner Shaman on Arachnarok Spider 51:04 Dankhold Troggboss 53:03 Rockgut Troggoths 55:09 Fellwater Troggoths 57:14 Dankhold Troggoth 58:51 Boingrot Bounderz 1:00:43 Squig Hoppers 1:02:53 Squig Herd 1:05:20 Mangler Squigs 1:06:58 Snarlfang Riders 1:08:53 Sneaky Snufflers 1:10:25 Sporesplatta Fanatics 1:12:25 Loonsmasha Fanatics 1:14:49 Moonclan Stabbas 1:16:35 Moonclan Shootas 1:17:28 Spider Riders 1:18:42 Skitterstrand Arachnarok 1:20:24 Arachnarok Spider with Spiderfang Warparty 1:22:34 Arachnarok Spider with Flinger 1:24:13 Kragnos 1:26:44 Conclusion As a thank you do Slaves to Darkness next ;-)
@thehonestwargamerstreams
Ай бұрын
I'll do it this weekend for sure x
@theopkid2485
Ай бұрын
Cool
I do like the thematic style of these rules. But it hurts when you have an army of a few squigs, a few trolls, a few spiders and some gitz. I’m sure I’m not the only army that feels like I’m going to need to push a unit type to be competitive
@martym3815
Ай бұрын
Yeah, really wish there was one that benefited mixed unit army comp instead of spamming one type
@kusanagi54321
29 күн бұрын
The armies should still be mixed. While you can take all trolls you loose on points games without hoppers/spiders/wolves to go do objectives and protect flanks, or wizards to teleport/ set up moon. Same for squigs, they can’t take the crack back and can be slow to revive so giving them a follow up anchor unit like trolls or shootas can help in the late game. You should build around the core you like and then take the other stuff to support it.
@TrebleAmp
29 күн бұрын
@@kusanagi54321 thx for the tips, new to AoS! :)
@jakea3950
29 күн бұрын
@TrebleAmp this edition is alot more mixed arms friendly then previous ones 🎉
@jakea3950
29 күн бұрын
Looking at those traits youd just pick the one you take most of. So mostly squiggs? Takr squigg formation. Taking big blocks of gitz, take the goblin one. Only exception is the trogg one. Its really good and troggs are expensive so makes sense. But dont feel like you cant mix and match cause you can.
I can hear already the chants "Trugg,Trugg,Trugg,Trugg" from my Trogg army.
@heckinmemes6430
25 күн бұрын
Trugg, Trugg, Trugg, Trugg, Trugg, Trugg!
Timestamps were so helpful, thanks! Looks like lots of viable builds still and no more battleshock/bravery issues
@thehonestwargamerstreams
29 күн бұрын
No battleshcok is wild
Tell me where is Nathan, for I much desire to speak with him.
@daedalus5253
23 күн бұрын
What did you say?
@shittyspeedpaints1012
23 күн бұрын
@@daedalus5253 The Nathan the Nathan the Nathan the Nathan for Gloomspite Gitz for Gloomspite Gitz!
Thank you Rob for this very complete review and the time stamps (thanks to @TheVardek13 as well below). A bit concerned about the Gitz, not only because of the MANY nerfs (although that needs to be put in comparison in the next edition and with other armies) but because most of warscrolls look duller. On top of that, it's like the numerous amount of feedbacks of players have not been taking in account. They kept D6 damages for some profiles (Troggboss, Fangs of Manglers) which is nonsense, spiders or snarlfangs still look crappy, Rabble-Rowza is still one of the biggest joke ever. Even at this early state, I see many warscrolls questionable and some of them will need EXTREMELY cheap point cost to be considered. Troggoths look more than fine, maybe because they haven't been nerf as hard as the rest. I love this part of the army, I just don't wish to see only them on tabletop. I still love this army and will continue to play it whatever happens and I hope my concerns are wrong !
@Sniperwolf00
29 күн бұрын
Completely with you on this one. Firstly great review Rob, thanks. I'm a little gutted on the nerfs. It feels almost like the message is 'Take Trolls or have a harder time'. The manglers have been hit hard and the other squig units are then all aligned too. I'm worried but waiting on points where hopefully they don't follow the same route as expected with most armies that points have gone up.
@rotm4447
29 күн бұрын
You should be concerned because these warscrolls straight up suck. Battletome Troggs.
This was such a nice readthrough... Really good job mate. Looking forward to see the rest!
Incredible work can’t wait to get these on the table! Will be watching everyone of these
Amazing, thanks for getting onto this so quickly Rob!
I converted a Loonboss WITH Giant Cave Squig just before they got rid of him, sad. I should have seen it coming
I was starting to get a bit worried about you. Last I heard you were feeling under the weather, then no posts for a while. I was hoping you weren't ill. Then BAM!!! What a legend! #DontCallItAComeback
if I remember it said you can bring back half rounding up so if you only have a unit of 3 rockgut thats 2 back? practically the whole thing sounds nice
Thank you for this! I'd suggest that you do the one faction we're all waiting for next: The magnificent Hedonites of Slaanesh
Awesome! I would love to see tzeentch as the horrors have changed significantly again
Love your content Rob, always makes me excited for armies I don't even play !!
Great Rob, keep these coming! Also: I want dubbed versions of these where a random Juggz member shouts ‘manities!’ Every time you say ‘abilities’.
Anyone else notice the effect on squig rage on the mangler squig doesn't make sense? It's states that as it gets more angry it does more damage, but the rules are the reverse.
Rob is a lovely chap and you should all like this video!
I would love to see what clammy combos this army could do. Sending absolute stoned gobbos flying across the board like Spiderman is awesome! Amazing videos!
nice! next go with NURGLE
@thehonestwargamerstreams
Ай бұрын
Ok
@SquishyFishies
Ай бұрын
@@thehonestwargamerstreams YES PLS
@Specterish
29 күн бұрын
I've heard very good things about the Glottkin, so I'm hoping the rest of their roster follows suit.
@SquishyFishies
29 күн бұрын
@@Specterish rotigus is a good now
Love the effort Rob! Thank you so much for this!
@thehonestwargamerstreams
Ай бұрын
Anytime
Nice review. Thanks Rob.
Awesome
Excited for Gitz. Great preview.
Loved this! Thanks for doing this. Appreciate you!
I think the giant boing on the mangler squigs will be good for tying up backline ranged attackers. Jump over their screening units and stop their backline archers from shooting.
Thanks for the learndingt Rules Man!
Hm i dont get that kragnos rabble rouser combo. So run and charge in he atks/ability, pop run through then end turn? Or hand of gork them away then end? And if the charge into someone use counter charge?
Ngl I am so gutted about the armor save on the mangler squig cuz we've seen very basic units that have rend 1 already and gain an addition 1 on a charge or if it's fighting a monster so I think this unit is gonna kinda suck in play saying that it is still a very cool looking model and I'd probably still get it
Love this! Kinda sorta wanna do another army and GItz are really appealing. Saying that they all are though! Cheers for this.
Troggoths sound good. No warmaster on Trugg, surprising
Thankyou Rob!
Few thoughts…. 1. Great video thank you so much for your content!!! 2. I feel like the saves across the army were designed with snuffler ward saves in mind. Like they were too afraid to hand out a decent save with the ward available. 3. For spiders, keep in mind that all the Arocks can literally cover the whole objective not letting enemies on it
Love it!
Pretty positive that "Crushing Grip" could be used by each individual unit that has it. OPT but the ability is on the warscroll, so it is the unit using not the player.
This changed my life
Since Hand of Gork goes off in the hero phase, can that unit still move in the movement phase?
Does anyone know if I can still take dankhold troggs as a unit of two? I guess no because they are monsters now but hopefully I’m wrong. Giz are my mane faction and this war scrolls feel like a hit in the face. Let’s see how it plays compared to the other army’s but man I’m a bit sad right now
@bilobeutlin7400
29 күн бұрын
I feeling you... i love the gitz, and i dont care about crazy strong rules... but this sounds like " play all rock troggoth you have or your army dies on round 3"... the mangler squig rend and save... hurts... And i think the dankhold is single now.
@phileddy3219
28 күн бұрын
@@bilobeutlin7400oh that’s sad, let’s hope the best for the points. I was dreaming of a super diverse army with all the cool different models but I guess I can leave the dream behind me
Getting shun while the wounds from the mockery of his mighty axe damage is still fresh. Khorne has set his eyes upon thee but not as his favoured champion. So hyped about the new Thirsters they look awsome..
Just realised when going to be a gloomspite shaman… we don’t have them anymore? Where are our cheap little pointed hatted level 1 wizards gone?! They had a great range and personality. But have no rules now. wtf?
Thanks for overview! Im not playing any wargames but interested in AoS stories and mechanics. It was super intersting to watch yours AoS 4 prview series. Hoping that youll review all factions.
Awesome job. Would love to see lumineth. There’s nothing about teclis out there
I had a question, maybe you can clarify, for (roll a d3. on a 2+ ... ) i read that as roll the dice and on 3+ which translates to 2 or 3 for a d3 thats when it occurs or is it 2+ for the d6 but the wounds is based on a d3?
@Jebjeb
28 күн бұрын
Pretty much its "roll a dice, as long as the result is not a 1, on a 2 do 1 MD, 3-4 do 2 MD, and 5-6 do 3 MD." So its a D3, but the first bit is just based on the dice result rather than the conversion to D3.
This army feels designed around the philosophy of "Enemy shooting attacks don't exist, right? Right???"
Now I'm really chuffed I got the truggs herd box, bought the rockguts 3d file you mentioned in the trugg vid and getting the troggoth premium from stormbringer. Troggoths are definitely stomping! 🦶
What a great shirt
Letttsssss goooooo
Manglers are what inspired me to play Gitz and start collecting AoS so I can't be excited about this. Ball and chain on mangler having 0 rend down from 2 and a worse armor save feels really bad. I am bummed. I loved playing an army where I was lightning fast and now all squigs are much slower. Why does the ball and chain of fanatics do 2 rend but the ball and chain of mangler does 0? Same rend as a stabba. If you care about making a strong cohesive list battle formations really shoehorn you into not mixing your troggs/squigs/spiders. If the points have changed dramatically and I can include 2 more manglers and 20 more squig hoppers I will change my tune dramatically but until then this isn't eliciting joy.
@Skinnyperegrine
28 күн бұрын
I'm currently optimistic they'll drop in points quite a long. Manglers were already a bit of a fun but questionable pick, and worsening the save by 1 and really neutering output, let alone removing 2" from them, means they really should see a drop...
@jackgebhardt2932
26 күн бұрын
Don't forget how squigs lost run and charge as well.
While the webspinner on foot having a control score of 5 is probably a typo all other foot heroes have a control score of 5 under the light of the moon (since they’re all moonclan)… but it probably is a typo
Lunar levels of hype right now
Have you got access to all of the indexes?
Careful Rob, don't talk bad about my spiders. 😊 Overall pretty happy with the warscrolls, trolls look good. Also, I do max arachnaroks, pretty fun list.
Mangler solution: gobbapalooza add 1 rend, squigalanch add 1 attack to gobs/bite, all out attack +1 hit. It's something anyway. Give him fight another day, hope he doesnt get hit with a strike last and he should do something useful. He's probably only going to get one good chance so make it count. Hope non hero sits around 180 - 200 pts, hero version maybe 260 but prob 280
Thoughts about the mangler squig,😅 now, after the points are revealed ? Love his bouncing but his rend is terrible no ?
With a bunch of cheap gobbo's why would you not want to take Kragnos?
@thehonestwargamerstreams
26 күн бұрын
I agree
These faction packs look amazing. I actually stopped AOS because the rule set bloatted across too many different pages that didn't link well. I might get back into now. These packs better not be limited edition like they always do with cards.
I think it fun how terrain can be destroyed. Sucks if you’re Loonshrine gets destroyed but I see it as still playing a role and soaking up 14 damage rather than hitting your units.
They nerfed Squigs so hard. They basically killed the army!
The whole Troggoth theme looks really scary 😅
I haven't seen anywhere yet about re-replacing a unit. So a unit of 20 squigs gets replaced by a different unit of 10, then can that unit of 10 get replaced by a new unit of 5? It normally says on the abilities that the unit cannot be replaced more than once but I haven't seen that statement yet
@AskJakeChemistryVideos
29 күн бұрын
I think in the core rules it says a replacement unit can never be replaced
@leetaylor5470
29 күн бұрын
@@AskJakeChemistryVideos ah yes just found it in the core rules
Really good, Rob. Can you do Khorne next please, as you never did them a faction focus
That’s a spicy war ham! 🤌
After watching this when it came out and listening to robs hopes for cheaps units and shock that things like the manglers were kind of garbag but might ne cheap. It is funny as a seasoned GS player to see the points drop that they have nerfed all the fun units into the ground and side graded the troggs. The only real surprise is boingrots being Ccccheap. I genuinely believe GW does not want these guys to be good hahaha.
There is one thing missing from the review: what does Nathan Prescott think about all of that? Can we get a Nathan's reaction video, please?
Thanks for the video, Rob, but how come you don't post anything on Spotify any more?
Is there a default spell lore, like with misitic shield, that is auto known by every wizzard?
@thehonestwargamerstreams
29 күн бұрын
No none
Spider rider are not that Bad, control 2 for a light cavalery, fly and Can be shoot by the webspinner easy: a very good unit to score
To answer your question, i happen to play only arachnarok in my 2000pts. Points came out yesterday. So overpriced compared to 3rd ed, im down to 6 arachnarok spiders, from 8, and lost all my 15 spider riders too. Considering their stat cards, GW has effectively destroyed the spider players.
Points pending, Troggherd will be fun. If we do get points can you maybe do some quick example lists at end of videos?
@thehonestwargamerstreams
29 күн бұрын
That's future videos
Someone mentioned that teleporting Kraggy is op... he will ignore the effects on a 3+ soooo roll good 2d6 cast.. then roll bad (1 or 2)... then roll 3d6 and roll good again.
@CalCoastMotorsportsVentura
27 күн бұрын
Oh nevermind... his shield is a reaction to an opponent casting a spell.... whoa that's gnarly.
Brutal nerf on the Fungoid Shaman although if he's come down in points to fill the role of cheap caster I'm not as upset. Nasty dent on the Loonboss on giant Squig too although if he drops in points accordingly I still see a definite place for him.
Is 100 cheap enough for squig herd?
how can you teleport kragnos in your opponents turn, isnt hand of gork only in your turn?
@JestaultSteinkeKachuik
25 күн бұрын
Core rules there is a command to cast on your opponents turn at a -1 to cast
@DCleave9895
25 күн бұрын
@@JestaultSteinkeKachuik Woah!
Will you produce any new terrain for AoS? Would love to support you in that way :)
@thehonestwargamerstreams
29 күн бұрын
Yes. Soon
GITZ!
When are the points coming? Thanks
Troggoth summer!!
Thanks, nice video. And oof,... big nerfs for spiders and boingrots. Hoppers still have the same, in my opinion, useless ability. How often do you succeed in moving over troops while staying outside of 3" with them? I've never had more than a handful being able to pass over enemy units. Trolls are looking fine though!
@davehudson4144
Ай бұрын
I think Boingrots are nerfed as a unit of 10. Unit of 5 is sort of the same. I believe all units got a points decrease to fit more characters into your army.
@EntropicEcho
29 күн бұрын
@@davehudson4144 That's true of course! I'm curious to see how it all shakes out concerning point costs!
@davehudson4144
29 күн бұрын
@@EntropicEcho I watched a bat rep yesterday. In 3rd you are looking at 2470 points. That’s a big reduction for 4th. So, overall we are weaker per unit but probably stronger as an army.
Are these available to download now?
@yugerk
Ай бұрын
Not for the public yet mate, people get sent bits from gw and like to share them out
I missed Infernal Enrapturess. They kicked it yo the Legends too?)
JUGGZ JUGGZ JUGGZ
Trugg trugg trugg .....juggz
Why does Rob keeps repeating that you can use the spell lores at your opponent turn if the spell says “your hero phase”, am I missing something?
@thehonestwargamerstreams
23 күн бұрын
The command ability says, cast a spell in your opponents turn AS IF it was YOUR HERO PHASE. Caps just for emphasis not be aggressive. Hope that helps
@rodrigolissoni8518
22 күн бұрын
@@thehonestwargamerstreams ooooh I see, thank you for the clarification Rob!
Are the Aleguzzler and Scuttleboss on Spider gone?
@town9792
29 күн бұрын
I believe scuttle boss is gone but I don't know about aleguzzler
Will you do a Blades of Khorne review since you haven't reviewed their faction focus?
@mtgbiscuits4767
29 күн бұрын
Came here to ask this
@thehonestwargamerstreams
29 күн бұрын
Yes definitely
@Onk3lM0
29 күн бұрын
@@thehonestwargamerstreams...Will it be the very next one since you've neglected my red Bois so woefully before? :* I mean the poor Boomthirster alone deserves redemption since he finally went to the great axe shop!
No more grimgrak in the new version ?
Will it be similar video about other armies these days?
@thehonestwargamerstreams
Ай бұрын
Yes
Picked the best faction first!!
Rabble Rouser Endtimes
Have we lost the underworlds gobbos? No more grinkrak? 😥
@vincentbloser7950
28 күн бұрын
I don't know. But OBR kept theirs. There was no mention about this but that would make me sad.
Будут ли ещё подобные видео?
@thehonestwargamerstreams
Ай бұрын
On every army
@hugheja89
Ай бұрын
@@thehonestwargamerstreamscertainly have you work cut out. Much appreciated
No gargant?
@andreacristini7635
29 күн бұрын
Same question here. Awesome video, like always!
I am Trugg
No Mollog ? ...
@hoss9345
25 күн бұрын
He sadly has been sent to legends
U never did the khorne faction focus...
@germenvandergalien8415
Ай бұрын
I thought the same.
not looking great for gitz imo. There are a few stars, like trugg and rockguts, but a lot of stuff seems to have gotten nerfed pretty severely. Spiders in particular are looking rough, even if the webspinner on foot's new ability is super cool. Lost the buff to mortals on the spidershrine's spell + down to 1 cast and snufflers and spore splattas being locked out of buffing spiders. Fellwaters look really weak to me. They ate a ton of nerfs, while rockguts remained mostly the same, and with the unleash hell change its way harder to actually apply the vomit debuff. The timing and restrictions on fanatics are massive nerfs. Squigs look to have some play for sure though.
It's pronounced Jloomspite Jits.
seems they get nerfed as fuck skaragrot now is pure shit.
Initial thought: GW has no idea how to make spiders good or inviting enought to invest and play They really want you to play troggs/squigs. Overall, most abilites happen on dice rolls which sucks, but I think every army got the same treatments so it's probably okay. What the heck happened to the warcry/underworlds warbands units? Not part of AOS anymore? Lame. Final thought: one lone gitmob unit...that kinda sucks...maybe we get a new gitmob subfaction when the book releases? One can hope...