It’s getting so bad that the dealership leaving the Hellkats out to be stolen but nobody stealing them…😂💯

@S8ER

3 ай бұрын

I think they can get their money back if it's stolen and not recovered. Right now they are losing money selling new 2023 Model year cars in 2024.

@Domz_

3 ай бұрын

Now THAT'S wild if thieves aren't even interested in stealing the Hemis.

@telo990

3 ай бұрын

They all outside in NC😂

@StandngOnBusiness

2 ай бұрын

Yup lol here in Houston too only thing that’s inside is them 170 shits anything below that collecting rust outdoors😂

@gregorylyon1004

2 ай бұрын

The thieves can't even afford to insure them. LOL

I’m waiting for the 75% below MSRP sale

@jessieharringtonlaguna4023

3 ай бұрын

🤫👀

@Madcomplex

3 ай бұрын

That's in August right?

@elijah4153

3 ай бұрын

Imagine😂😂😂

@Ms_Introvert_4_Life

3 ай бұрын

Me and you both 😂😂😂😂

@noahknight4039

3 ай бұрын

That won’t happen, they’ll whole sale them at auctions before marking them down 75%. If they did that I’d buy a Scatpack Challenger for myself and a Scatpack Charger for my woman on the same day.

Charger and challengers are the crown Victoria of the new age. Never changed.

People take pictures on the freeway, stop me at food places, kids take pictures with my car. Gotta be honest my Hellcat gets all the love.

@nicos1097

2 ай бұрын

Do you have a charger or challenger?

@sterlingjones4108

2 ай бұрын

@@nicos1097 Challenger

@LSp8

2 ай бұрын

Same here, Charger HC Redeye, get photographed all the time and I plan on paying it off early and keeping it forever and of course mod it after the warranty is up

@sterlingjones4108

2 ай бұрын

@@LSp8 Love it, and we have the same plans for our cars too 🔥.

@DirtyRice334

2 ай бұрын

You must live in a small town

As they should. Hellcats should be 75k max not 100k and I’m talking redeye jailbreak 807hp. The only dodge worth 6 figures is the viper 🤷🏿‍♂️

@heartbreakkid8708

3 ай бұрын

Nope try 60k after tax, reg, title

@user-sx9pr7iz5c

3 ай бұрын

ARC

@williamrose7818

3 ай бұрын

Hellcat should be 55,000 to 60,000 nowhere near 70,000. My Hellcat brand new and 2020 was 53,000.

@lafosh7234

3 ай бұрын

And not even the public road purpose viper either we talking ARC track purpose like the mustang GTD( which is over priced imo)

@jwhogangr

3 ай бұрын

No more than 65k if it's not the demon. It's all the same interior exterior just with different belts and superchargers

biggest thing stopping me from getting a wb scat, is saving for a house

Who wants to wait till the year's end to race out and buy an OUTDATED CAR that sat on the lot for over a year and collected dust and rust?

@Ms_Introvert_4_Life

3 ай бұрын

If they're willing to take on the cost of putting brand new rotors and brakes on it, and drain/change all the fluids, and change whatever Else has rusted, then I'll buy one.

@justicerobinson4700

3 ай бұрын

Me.

@slimhardaway8

3 ай бұрын

My 16 SRT sat on the lot over a year collecting dust because it was a 6 speed, 7 years and 65k miles later I’ve had no problems!

@tjbjjtkd

2 ай бұрын

Probably a lot of people!

@ByeByeBam5.7

2 ай бұрын

🙋🏾‍♂️

Dodge isn't special anymore. Chargers and Challengers are everywhere. I wanted a scat or hellcat for a while, but with all the news from Stelantis and cars getting stolen, i dont want the headache, nor do i want to put my life on the line for a Dodge 😂😂😂

@YAU10

3 ай бұрын

Shi speak for yourself ima get me that super charger 😂

@Darkseid757

3 ай бұрын

@YAU10 hope you're strapped and wearing bulletproof vests. Lol, good luck 👍

@joshlamar1990

3 ай бұрын

@@YAU10get you a ram 3500 dually looks good. And can make you money.

@tezalehall2818

3 ай бұрын

Interest Rates, Greedflation we are now paying the "Actual Price car w/ cafe credit paybacks included, passed onto us the Consumer. Also milking the same cars since 06,08, & 05 was eventually gonna play out(300s Challenger & Chargers). A certain segament of the population, will still be rocking these cars 20 years from now listening to the exact same music from this ERA. Could care less.

@YAU10

3 ай бұрын

@@Darkseid757 trust this ARP everywhere I go 😮‍💨

It all went down after 2019. COVID hit, and they found an excuse to raise vehicle prices.

Your right Dodge got greedy but I would say from 2020 to 2024 and 20 thousand plus for the same car is crazy . Dodge forgot one of the reasons why there cars were so hot affordability for the working guy who wanted a bad machine

My 2016 HELLCAT CHARGER was $75,000 loaded. I NEVER would have spent the $85,000- $100,000 being demanded for the widebody or Redeye. Dodge got greedy. Now they’re going to die.

@jimtranmer8720

3 ай бұрын

I paid 72 for my 2020 ordered red eye. I laughed at a dealer the other day who was still getting mark ups

@williamrose7818

3 ай бұрын

You paid way too much

@jimtranmer8720

3 ай бұрын

Lol

@StockCarGuy

3 ай бұрын

you paid too much as well, not even a widebody, 2016s were like 55-60k max

all I want is a dodge Durango R/T don't need all that other stuff

@lafosh7234

3 ай бұрын

Prepare to pay hellcat numbers just to get a V8 Durango off the lot

@EmEs1018

2 ай бұрын

$66k and 👆

Great insight from you KO360 I never thought about it like that, keep dropping the knowledge much appreciated 💯

Dodge failed to realize that people could barely afford the cars to begin with

Dodge messed up by raising MSRP on something that hasn’t changed in 10 years. But the dealerships need to go. If the EV thing gets pushed back like everyone other manufacturers is doing and brings the v8s back. They need to allow us to cut the dealerships out the equation and do what Tesla does and drop that shit off at your house.

@xPeaJay

3 ай бұрын

Amazing idea

Somewhere Dodge forgot they were selling Muscle cars and thought, hey why not get supercar prices if they want these cars! There is always a tipping point and Dodge went past it by a mile.

It's crazy that my 2012 charger r/t is about 80 percent the same interior wise to my 2023 1320

The prices increased because of the penalties Dodge paid to maintain the V8 production. It’s very expensive to maintain the V8 those days with the emission standards. They have to pay penalties to CAFE and it is reflecting on the car price. People want V8’s, but don’t want to pay the price. That’a why they are going electric. They have no choice

@hirise9419

3 ай бұрын

That's it right there. That's a major contributing factor as to why prices went up.

@MR_DLG

3 ай бұрын

If that's the case why are Chevy and ford still making V8s that are capable of emission standards. Nobody wants EVs and the government wants to force something that is causing more pollution to be made plus more to get fixed

@Hdeejames

3 ай бұрын

@@MR_DLG because Chevy and Ford don’t have the same strategy than Dodge. They diversified their products. Mostly Dodge cars have big engines (Ram, Charger, Challenger, Durango…)They don’t have the same emission. And I am pretty sure it will come a moment where Chevy and Ford will have to go electric. I am not a fan of electric cars neither. I have a Charger Super Bee and I am so glad I have it. I am not ready to go electric

@perriiperrii1596

3 ай бұрын

@@Hdeejamesexactly, when Chevy and ford were making the more emission savvy cars like the ford fusion, trax, ecosport so and so fourth dodge only had the 3.6 to show and THAT engine isn’t even all that eco friendly so it’s all on dodge they shot themselves in the foot and now they can’t or don’t want to buy anymore carbon credits from Tesla so they gotta go electric 🤷🏽‍♂️ on top of stellantis wanting to get rid of the big V8s anyway

@biz0r07

3 ай бұрын

Where do you get this info from?

The swap game is part of sales declining also...

These remind me of when the SRT magnum and SRT 300c came out, everyone had them. After a while, nobody was breaking their necks when one passed by.

I don’t think the huge discounts will ever really materialize until the inventory is down next to nothing. I go on all my Florida dealer sites daily and their inventory is going down. Albeit slowly but it is going down.

I called yesterday about a $70,000 super bee. Let’s all keep in mind there’s nothing super about it and it’s a 392. I sent to the guy I’m interested in the superb. I know it’s been sitting there for a year. I’m nowhere near 70,000.. He says make me an offer. I want it off my lot. I replied 58,000. He said no, I can’t do it for that, but I can give it to you for retail. I said well what’s the retail price? he says 69,000. Ahahahha ahhahahahahaha ahahhahahahah…

@RyuSukuna

3 ай бұрын

Goofy ass lost a chance to take it off the lot. They will be forced to severely reduce the prices because the masses for the most part agree they are severely overpriced. That salesman is Uber goofy.

@Bruce.-Wayne

2 ай бұрын

Let this Scat rot on his lot....he'll remember not taking that 58k offer...

@txflowers8940

24 күн бұрын

even 58 for a scat is insane regardless if its a super bee lol, shits worth 30k in parts at most

our local Dodge dealer had a whole lot full of Mopars marked up since last year, and not selling anything. they finally been forced to put discounts on their inventory (under sticker)

I live in Arizona and there's a lot of rich people here, You have a hard time finding a red eye of either charge Or challenger. You can find regular Body Hellcats, Wide body scatpacks, and of course the six cylinder. The job situation is not that bad here, So people drive what they want to drive. I just think everybody that wanted One of these cars has already bought 1.

@EmEs1018

2 ай бұрын

“Snottsdale” lawyers got a few and then the cougars bought a few more for their 25 yr old boyfriend.

Interest rates are crazy high, and some people are getting denied loans

Good video I took my Hellcat Red eye in to get serviced and I was looking around and they had about 15 R/Ts and they were selling them all at MSRP no discounts which surprised me.

I agree a 100%. I love to have a SCAT PACK but I'm retired and can't afford the new prices.

Excellent Video And Spot On! 👍

No one ever gives props to Cadillac's CTS-V /coupe for bringing over 550HP and a SUPERCHARGED v8 to the party BEFORE Dodge did it in the Hellcat. GM lost their way too. Now they produce 500 - 700 HP Electric Lyriqs.

Another great video and thanks

Dodge did a lot of things wrong but the main thing is that he never really changed the vehicles by much so when you bring the 2023 prices up, ppl said I’ll just get a used one. Plus you could just build one at this rate bc all the parts are pretty much interchangeable

Also insurance is a big factor for how much these cost a month

What’s the best aftermarket exhaust for the scatpack?

This is my second Mopar I am done with them I got one more year to pay my Scat Pack off that is it

@TheWeirdo1991

2 ай бұрын

My 3rd one and i agree 🤣🤣🤦🏿

well said man... Currently in the market but abt to leave the market...refuse to pay prices so inflated......absurd

Mechanically, The WIDEBODY models have ELECTRIC STEERING while the narrow bodies have hydraulic steering. A lot of people forget that. The widebody also necessitates larger/ wider tires and wheels. The price increase is partly due to those factors. Widebody models have a lower top speed than narrow body models due to drag.

@RARochester

3 ай бұрын

Drag ?? Both cars have the same engine; the difference being the limiter/governor is set lower on the narrow body because the suspension and skinny tires can’t handle the extra power generated, there’s tons of videos showing the WB’s ahead of the narrow body.

@lmjames33

3 ай бұрын

Facts

@lmjames33

3 ай бұрын

​@RARochester wrong!

@RARochester

3 ай бұрын

@@lmjames33 Ok, so Dodge charges $6000.00 more for a WB that's slower than the narrowbody; let me guess, you have a narrowbody. Yeah, Dodge ADDS the wider tires and adaptive suspension because the car is slower than the narrowbody !!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Dude, did you make it through 5th grade or did you start cheating at 5th grade ??????????????????????????????????????????????? Google it : Dodge says the Scat Pack Widebody pulls 0.98 g on the skidpad and is 1.3 seconds quicker around the same track than the standard, narrow-body Scat Pack but still slower than the Hellcat Widebody.Feb 2, 2022

@RARochester

3 ай бұрын

I have a WB Challenger and creamed an NB Charger so I guess he must have had an off day.............

Nov-Dec I tried to get a wide body scat the cheapest I found in NC was 57K plus the 3500 pack I said no and went and got a 1LE

The Roadrunner. Big engine, light body, cheap price. That’s the winning formula. Heavy car, big motor, big markups, big price is the losing formula. People work for a living, can’t live in their cars. Lost sight of reality

Moving out of the Brotherhood, been looking for Durango RT Tow n Go but it's $80,000 CAD MSRP according to the dealership. Family is getting bigger and wanted to upgrade from the Charger RT, but I can't with those prices. Looking to get Toyota Grand highlander, practicality maybe is the way to go now. Besides i can ride that thing forever

The theft rate and interest rate got way too high for the consumers. Plus the cars just got boring.

Looking to pick up a 2023 wb brand new less than 500mi. New to the mopar club, are there reliability issues I should be concerned with? Glaring issues that seem to be occurring?

Look, there are still dealerships trying to get dealer markups above msrp. Look at the inventory on the lots.

Everywhere I go I see scatpacks. I actually thought trading mine in for a M3 Bmw

I just got me a 2018 MT WB hellcat… my first Mopar… always been a mopar head since Viper came out… but never been able to afford it… (move to US 20 years ago… college, family, work, etc) is not a viper… but it will do! (More comfortable than a viper too) 😂

I totally agree with you, but I still love my challenger widebody fam

Very helpful

I’m still getting a Taurus or finding one cause it’s getting to that point where u have to hunt from state to state to find

The challenger body exterior technology hasn’t ever changed since early 2000s minus the lights. Technology the same car

I agree Bro! With everything you said, any news on price on ev scat maybe interested if there is a $10000 tax credit

I bought my 2015 cat in 2019 for 48k still got the window sticker… now I’m waiting. For the trx to drop in price. Not that low but hey who knows

Honestly outside of car meets, I may see one WB challenger of any trim once a week. Just waiting for the wb challenger scat price to drop od

I’m not planning to leave Dodge all together I’m just shifting to a RAM 2500 and 3500 mega cab truck. The trucks are versatile and I can do more things with a truck from work, hauling, and long distance travel. With the economy crashing around us I will need a truck and trailer to live in and travel in.

I saw a nice one on a used car/new car website for 80k. I think I might go for that deal. I just brought a house with a garage. You know what the garage is for.

I think you're on the right track. I own two Dodge cars - a '16 RT Challenger and an '08 SRT8 Magnum. In Southern California, you can't throw a brick without it hitting some random challenger - they're everywhere. I love my car, but it doesn't stand out. By FAR I get more head turning and questions about the station wagon! 17 years of challengers is a long time. And unless you're really into Dodge, one looks the same as the next. It's like Porsche. Put two clean ones side by side, and I couldn't tell which was brand new and which was 40 years old, or which one was a $50k Porsche and which one was a $500k Porsche.

@capricetony

3 ай бұрын

Any issues with the 16 R/T Challenger, I am looking at a Shaker with just 25K miles.

@rhaegoti

3 ай бұрын

@@capricetony I had three problems, currently at about 120k miles. The antenna shorted out somehow, showed I was two times zones away and wouldn't pick up any radio stations. Dealer fixed it for a few hundred dollars. The other two problems I haven't gotten fixed. The center console cracked and split where my elbow rests while driving, and the leather interior panel on the driver door has bad adhesive, so on hot days you can hear it grip and release when you press against it. Other than that, been a great car with only scheduled maintenance.

@2tooful

3 ай бұрын

@@rhaegotiall interior door panels peel away from the doors

@LSp8

2 ай бұрын

@@2toofulcenter console too. My RTs in curling up bad and had been like that after the first couple years and ordered new. Annoying AsF but not complaining much since it’s mechanically perfect @ 126k

It's Stellantis who is Greedy & passed that shit to CDJR. A '21 392 Jeep Rubi was 76k. That model stayed exact same thru '23, but '23s were 90k. The final edition is '24 & it's 96k right now at tax time but dealers got huge greed for additional 10-50k extra, depending on badging & leather color. The main thing Jeep has that Dodge doesn't is the rarity on #s, as they're only 6600 made per year, so 26k total Jeep 392s, but they all going balls deep with greed because it's Hemi's last year. No thanks..

Looking at a 23 wide body scat challenger with fully loaded with red seats for 51k with 2k miles trynna grab for less if I can

I just want a 392 scat pack Challenger

I agree with everything your saying Knockout 360 💯

I moved on to a beautiful 2019 RS7 AWD‼️Used.

@Naughty3o5

3 ай бұрын

@klkconklk8411 Hp 621 performance model AWD but it feels like more than that. I haven’t met a Hellcat or any other model keep up with me yet.🤷‍♂️3 Years in.

New favorite channel make me wanna make one, when I get my scat pack😂😅

January 2021, FCA becomes part of Stellantis after merger with Peugeot. February 2021 Stellantis disbanded SRT division. It was all down hill after that.

I just payed 50k for a 2016 hellcat 16k miles one owner clean car fax manual.

@mucleboy0151

3 ай бұрын

Damn where yall finding these deals i wanna cop one that price

@StandngOnBusiness

2 ай бұрын

@@mucleboy0151get on car gurus and if your willing to travel you’ll find 15 and up cats for decent prices used. Even a few 23 widebody scats

@gregorylyon1004

2 ай бұрын

WOW

I think another reason for slow Dodge sales besides high prices is not everybody is into V8 6.2 vehicles. Alot of people might be anticipating the ELECTRICAL VEHICLES out with the old in with the New mentality like what's NEW ??!!

If the hellcat ever drop to 60-65k im trading in my RT immediately….until then im good with what I got!

I agree these prices are wild, but if you take a look at an inflation calculator, $45k in 2015 is equivalent to $59.7k in 2024. So realistically, the price didn’t just go up for nothing. Still a crazy price, but that’s just inflation at work

Seen a 2023 Hellcat in Canada listed at 140k Canadian funds. Great points, Dodge is under new ownership and the direction for Dodge is EV's. BIG mistake IMP.

from canada here... checking EVERYY single day for widebody hellcats.... all of them are over 120s 🥺 any widebody challenger hellcat below 105 is like 2018 ... 😫 im big big dodge challenger guy... but prices in canada making me lean toward Corvette C8.... saw few 2LT option below 15k KMS .. below 95... i dont know what to do 😫😫

Bro listen I went from a 16 accord coupe to a 22 Charger GT. LoL while the interior is the same, I'm still looking to jump to an R/T Daytona. Almost grabbed on before I moved out of FL but the price wasn't worth it. Funny thing is, there aren't as many Chargers and Challengers for sale in my area. FL is PACKED with them.

@Name-zm7mv

Ай бұрын

How much did u put down for charger gt and how much a month?

When a non- salvaged decent mileage RedEye goes for upper 60’s low 70’s I’ll consider.

I just drove past my local GMC dealer the other day and they had a used Durango Hellcat on their lot on a podium on the outside of the actual car lot. Asking $85k. Ridiculous

Speak on it bro! Let dodge know they lost their minds, I'm a Chevy SS guy but your absolutely right dodge was just being greedy. Now they want to lay off thousands of workers.

The 3 Ps are keeping those cars on the lot - Price, price, and price.

Just saw an R/T Today in Arizona that is 23% off of MSRP! 😲😯

The 300 swaps is the new new

@lafosh7234

3 ай бұрын

I’ve been peeping that

@LowkeeLevi

3 ай бұрын

And they only being sold for 35k 😂 I’m just now finding out

@Elder-Bryant

3 ай бұрын

​@LowkeeLevi I saw one at a dealership by my house for 25 grand

@underdoggtvwelovetheunderd9645

3 ай бұрын

yup people going custom since dodge aint doing it @@Elder-Bryant

@LSp8

2 ай бұрын

People are simply fixing one of CDJR’s biggest mistakes!!!! Not offering a SRT / HC 300 after 2015 (until the Last Call C & for export-only markets🤦🏾‍♂️). They should’ve built them and obviously they would’ve still sold, probably for more 💰. I would’ve gotten one over my Redeye if it was offered. I’m glad everyone is doing swaps and doing what should’ve been done years ago!

Went to the dealership this past weekend with$ 5000down to get a Daytona frost blue suade interior with 28000 miles on it 2020 I didn’t get approved I have no repos my credit score is under a 600 😂

I had a 2012 charger and sold it came back years later and bought a 2018 R/T. But by 2020 there was a charger at every single stop light. Not I'm on cadillac. Just bought a 2021 cadillac CT4-V. He ain't lying I'm looking at the CT5 blackwing with 668HP

Not only that but let’s talk about the insurance cost for these things on top of a 900+ car note . Nope I’ll past !

You forgot to mention how hot these cars are now with police, I'm a truck driver, I see them pulled over on the daily.

Yea where I live at they have 2018 and 2019 hellcat's going for $109,000 and Scat pack going for $85,000

Currently local to me, slim body scat challys are going for 10k off and charger scats 5K

What’s a good price for a “brand new” 2023 Charger R/T Blacktop?

ya needa hit up carvana bro, unless you want it brand new 0miles but carvana got decent prices

Don't forget about the rates... still kind of high across the board. And it doesnt really matter what your credit looks like. I have a score that more that 100+ pts higher than when I bought my 392 in 2020 and the rate is almost 3% higher (No lates etc....) Even if the rates come down people don't want to pay high payments for cars that are now as common as Hondas on the road

@LSp8

2 ай бұрын

Yeah the rates suck!!! I pay all my bills on time and the rate on my Redeye is 8% and Never Late. Just got a new 300C and credit was 760, got spanked with a fucking ridiculous 12% from Stellantis. I’m not really tripping since I’m just gonna refinance with my credit union I got my Redeye through. I see why these cars are sitting. Nobody should be paying bad credit rates when they have good credit🤦🏾‍♂️. I wonder what they would’ve hit me with if I was under 700 💀

@bk-hq2zn

2 ай бұрын

@@LSp8 Damn!!! 12% w/ 760... Im in the same range... Glad to know if I do something it defiitely won't be with those. financial terroists. If you have below 700 I wouldn't even buy right now no matter what the incentives are.

My auto mart puts the scatpacks and Trx’s inside the service lane here. They just recently this week put them in the parking lot to be stolen 😂😂😂😂

Ford also offers a factory warrantied supercharger that can be purchased and installed.

I was just a dealer they have a used 2023 scat pack for 52k BUT 5k of add ons $700 for nitrogen filled tires, $1500 for gps recovery system and $1500 for anti scratches and anti stains plus $700 for deep cleaning and catalytic etching 😂😂

Many dodge 2023 models and some 2024 vehicles are on sale. They are offering dealer discount plus MSRP discount.

My love for Mopar goes back to the classic 70s models of the Challenger and Chargers. IMO, Mopar always had the better-looking muscle cars! I cant see myself drivering any other muscle car! Maybe the Dark Horse or a Shelby Super Snake!

You should be able to get a 2016 hellcat for under 30k . Considering a 2016 was 38k in 2019

I went from Scatpack to Tesla Model S , less on gas and can’t still gap SRTs at a stop light …

I love my lil outdated scat. Damn

Yeah it’s the markups!! I paid 7k markup for my last call 😢

That sucks for people who spent a $100k on a redeye and in 6 months they'll be SUPER upside-down

Dark Horse 500 horsepower

@lynch6642

3 ай бұрын

☝️ this will be the direction I'm going, faster and cheaper...

@kevinthomas6924

3 ай бұрын

@@lynch6642 me to

@RLogan-sl7xl

3 ай бұрын

I’m thinking Camaro ZL1

@kevinthomas6924

3 ай бұрын

@@RLogan-sl7xl I don't blame you whatever it is it's not Dodge I'm done with them now one more year left with this Scat Pack is paid for I'm moving on

@tjbjjtkd

2 ай бұрын

Dark Horses are between 57 and 60k! It's cheaper and faster than a Scat! I'm not a Mustang guy, but I would push a Dark Horse!

My c6 cost me only $20k, has LT headers, cam, tuned can easily smoke $90k cats. That’s what I did cause I wanted the most bang for my buck.

@mucleboy0151

3 ай бұрын

No it cnt

@Bagged_Hemi

3 ай бұрын

I respect the build but that’s not enough to beat a stock 6.2 regardless of how light it is, did you mean Scat packs…

@mucleboy0151

3 ай бұрын

@@Bagged_Hemi a tuned scat will give him problems too he cappin bro

@demarkisdinkins2737

3 ай бұрын

@@Bagged_Hemithat build would definitely smoke a cat 😂😂😂 we talking a c6 with around 470-500hp with 3300ibs vs 4500ibs and around 650-700hp

@Reeso04

3 ай бұрын

People dont understand weight to power ​@@demarkisdinkins2737

To replace ev battery will cost you 28,000 to 36,000.

Alot off ppl just bought the car for the hype now us real muscle lover can get them wen they go down...patiently wait 😮😮

Can't give them away almost now cause of what they are doing to the buyers out here

I agree. They made decisions based on greed rather than fanbase and they are where they are. That being said, I think the worst thing they did was make it difficult & expensive to mod. The dodge muscle cars have so many other good points about them that if they were more easily modifiable and slightly less expensive they'd still be high in sales. Most guys don't buy sports cars to leave them completely stock. So dodge got whooped in that corner. If they covered certain mods under warranty, they'd still have the muscle car market cornered. The latest gen challenger is still the best looking muscle car out there... the charger also, which Ford & Chevy have no answer for as sedans go... the widebody charger is the best looking sedan out, period (my opinion).

DuPage Chrysler/Dodge in Illinois are try to charge 10k over for Scats and I think there is a swinger they are charging more than 10k over on

@danielparsons3004

3 ай бұрын

Watch CJ on 32s title of video is went to the dealership to buy a car and lying salesman.....this guy lies why they are charging over then admits he's trying to make some money it's sad how people are at these dealers