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@maggnus87

3 жыл бұрын

damn you Simon, now i'm sad :'(

@zeanyt2372

3 жыл бұрын

Great video. That was a horrible tragedy that could have been so easily avoided.

@rjfaber1991

3 жыл бұрын

I see the idea of using primarily metric units went out of the window with this one... How much are those pressures in Bar or Kilopascal?

@MelkorRules

3 жыл бұрын

Lovell telescope would be a cool vid for the Megaprojects team. It's tilting motors are made from 15inch ww2 battleship turrets, just to name one cool feature. Lovell the man also has a fascinating story to tell.

@dantemoose420

3 жыл бұрын

Personally, I love the idea of a few videos covering things that SHOULD have been huge projects.... but then, for various reasons, werent.

I am from Bhopal . I was 12 when this happened . We ran for our lives . Nobody knew at that time as to what has happened . Next day , when we came back , we saw bodies on roads . My dad told me to stay strong and help him and several others to clear the road of bodies , so that the emergency workers can reach the ailing . Soon , we all were coughing badly and somebody told to use wet clothes to cover the face . Then , police personnel arrived and told women , kids and older man to go back . It was like living a horror . It left a lot of us with allergies , Asthma , weak immune system and later on , Gas victims suffered from cancer and several other lethal diseases . My father and my uncle died of cancer, years later . My grandpa and grand mom , like several others , started to show signs of severe cognitive decline and for years , they couldn't even recall as to who they were . The paltry compensation , that reached gas victims , was insufficient . Crippled population was unable to work because of several disabling diseases , resulting from inhaling lethal gas . Those were horrible times . We thank god , that he chose us to survive .

@danconser6709

3 жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry to hear of your tragic experience, but thank you for sharing. Putting a personal face on such tragedies helps people to identify with the issue and hopefully take away the message of it's importance, and hopefully to do better in the future. I was saddened to hear that even today, the mess is still there endangering the lives of those who live there. See my separate post. I'm a former chemical engineer who spent a lot of time addressing industrial safety as part of my job, and I learned about key points of the event while getting my BSChE in college. I've taken the message of the need for safety to heart and try to share lessons learned about industrial safety with family & friends to raise awareness & hopefully, this awareness might also make them more aware of their own Safety at Home & at Work. I'm saddened that this incident was never properly addressed to the victims of the event, as you mention. Trying to read more for myself, it seemed the people suffered as everyone tried to avoid responsibility. The biggest lesson that should have been learned relates to plant siting. In today's US Industry, there are many very good tools to be used that address the safety of siting issues (that is, can an accident have offsite impacts and what needs to be done to avoid them). My first takeway is that people should never have been allowed to live at the facility fenceline / or if siting it there meant that would happen, AND it should never have been located so close to a major population center. The other major one was that so many safety systems were not even in operation, or improperly size for the service, and the practices employed for keeping the plant in servicable condition were appalling. I have to say though, when in the 1990's I would hear "old timers" talk about operating practices from the 1970's and earlier, I was appalled (I graduated and began work in 1991). I think, looking back, we need to recognize that people didn't have the same appreciation for what was acceptable or even safe. I also spent some time in our licensing group and helped start-up a plant in China in 2004-2005, and met with some of our licensees from around the world in tech exchange support meetings every 2-years. Not all companies even do that, but I believe it is key to success both economic & safety. Part of the problem working between different cultures can be that each side may not have an appreciation for what the other culture considers acceptable and how things work "normally". Unless you have an experienced Engineering Firm helping to bridge this gap (and even if you do) sometime things one side considers acceptable, is based on an assumed premise of how things work in their own culture, which is NOT always true when a given project get implemented. This can cause safety issues to crop up even if BOTH sides are trying to do their best. This DOES NOT apply to the Bhopal incident, but did to my own project. And could have lead to deaths from an explosion when valves were installed with studs of the wrong thread type (English vs Metric), which allowed the valve to come lose some time after operation had commenced. It is not even something we would have considered, as getting the thread type right would have been a skill of any pipefitter employed in my country, but the very poor day laborers employed locally had no idea of such an issue an its potential impact. This was an example of both sides doing what they thought was what was needed. Fortunately, our start-up plant support folks spotted the leak immediately and informed us in the control room and we were able to shutdown the operation in seconds, even so, the building was filled to some extent, with flammable gas. However, the operation was stopped in time and no one was injured. I give everyone credit for (1) having the appropriate folks on hand for start-up / shakedown of the plant, and (2) working together to identify the problem and (3) the Chinese management had their people work with us to identify ALL VALVES in the plant where this could have occurred, and did not restart until they were ALL checked and addressed. From what I've read of the incident, clearly, in Bhopal, this level of safety awareness was beyond the ken of what was practiced, expected, nor even conceived of. And thus, you had a terrible tragedy. God Bless you and your family. Best wishes. I hope this at least encourages you as to what industry practice SHOULD be today. This only occurs where people work to make it happen, either the owner or the government at some level, and the builders of the facilities (which should not even begin until siting determines it is a SAFE place to be, and THEN the needs to keep off-site incidents from becoming catastrophes are to be evaluated and implemented), and internal plant safety must also be addressed. A LOT con be done with good work & permitting procedures in conjunction with good Operation procedures (also seemed to be missing in Bhopal incident) . I'm sorry if I went on too long. These are lessons I care about and implemented in my job with the FULL SUPPORT & REQUIREMENT of my Employer.

@bimblinghill

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing that powerful story. It's so shameful how you have all been let down by the companies and governments involved.

@PedroMSOliveira

3 жыл бұрын

I read about this in the late 80s and the story always shocked me.

@seanbrazell6147

3 жыл бұрын

I am so sorry this happened to you and yours. There is no excuse for this corporate behavior. None.

@annegrey3780

3 жыл бұрын

I am so sorry this happened to you. All the victims and survivors deserved so much better.

The real megaproject is getting someone to take responsibility.

@andyv16012

3 жыл бұрын

That is awesome.

@n2nightfall

3 жыл бұрын

For real. Funny how we let companies like this off without a meaningful resolution to the damage they cause.

@Ratkill9000

3 жыл бұрын

See Chernobyl as example.

@cshan2313

3 жыл бұрын

Best comment yet

@zopEnglandzip

3 жыл бұрын

@@n2nightfall big multinationals always make sure nothing can stick if they're up to shenanigans, shell companies, and subsidiaries mean even if you do shut down the company directly responsible it is but a single claw of the beast.

Bhopal is my native city and currently I live here. It was really surprising to see someone talk about the Gas Tragedy out of the blue. Well, out of the blue since nobody here in Bhopal talks about it more. For the sake of formality, the government hospitals here have a separate facility for the Gas Tragedy victims and their free treatment, but then the condition and treatment in Indian government hospitals is another tragedy in itself. Glad to see someone actually talking about it and exposing it to the world. A lot of people are still carrying the effects that have passed on to the next generation too. My parents were 14-17 when this happened. and well they still deal with respiratory problems which can be noted in a lot of children in my generation too. Anyways, thankyou for explaining it so well! PS: I loved your accent while saying BOpal! 😂😂❤

Simon, you could do a subset of videos called “Megaprojects: The Megadisasters” as a nice counterpoint to the great successes you highlight on here. Never hurts to look at “the other side of the coin” as it were...

@yrmh1

3 жыл бұрын

Good idea, you could start with Beirut..

@MegaDtard

3 жыл бұрын

This is a good idea. I would be on board with it 100%

@duncanmcgee13

3 жыл бұрын

@@yrmh1 and Tianjin

@wilhelmusrobben9953

3 жыл бұрын

Lol China would never admit their fuckup in Tianjin

@quintonhowells299

3 жыл бұрын

Also, please run MegaDisasters as a mixed spin-off between MegaProjects and Business Blaze (I'm lookin' at you, Berlin Airport Disaster)

I'm not Indian, but I'd like to sincerely thank Simon and the Megaprojects crew for shedding some light on the aftermath of the disaster even though it's not "hot news". We who live outside of the affected zone tend to forget (if we were even aware of the disaster at all) that all these industrial disasters, when not cleaned up properly, are very much ongoing and keep claiming victims around the environment they poisoned. The continuing suffering of the victims should not be buried and forgotten along more recent headlines. Stay strong India, greetings from Mexico.

@kushagrabhardwaj1

3 жыл бұрын

More Power to you! Love from India...

@pikmaniac2643

3 жыл бұрын

If you want to see another channel that covered the events leading up to the disaster in more detail, I suggest checking out Plainly Difficult. They make videos on all sorts of nuclear and industrial incidents, accidents, disasters, etc, from Bopal and Chernobyl to events like the Halifax explosion.

@benjamingibson4720

3 жыл бұрын

thank you team, until now all I knew of this was from the Seconds from disaster programme on Nat Geo, you have given me a lot more info, can you try to do other things such as this please. It's interesting.

@ROOSTER333

3 жыл бұрын

"Greetings from Mexico". Mexico ain't much better in the oil and gas industry. Let alone the chem industry. Your officials sex party with the cartel will destroy good people

@meghavenkat5010

3 жыл бұрын

@EmperorJuliusCaesar Dumb criminals are ruling INDIA. Not even smart ones man xD

On the night of the disaster, my mother was supposed to be in Bhopal for some work. On 2nd Dec 1984, she was travelling from Indore to Bhopal with my grandfather. She got super late and by night managed to only reach to her sister's house in Sehore ( 38 KM west of Bhopal ). She was supposed to only stay there for a couple hours and continue her journey towards Bhopal. But since they were late, my Grandfather decided it must be better to stay the night in Sehore and leave for Bhopal in the morning. On that night, she saw the horror with her own eyes. There was chaos on the street. She told me, that night some people have run up to Sehore on foot to escape death. Now I think she was lucky that she got late.

@ericsbuds

3 жыл бұрын

wow. im glad she wasnt there.

@DesertFernweh

3 жыл бұрын

Someone upstairs was watching out for your mom that night.

@annescholey6546

3 жыл бұрын

Orya Bustee next door was the worst affected as the wall was right next to MIC tank 160.

@TheMattc999

3 жыл бұрын

She was most definitely lucky to be running late.

@TheMattc999

3 жыл бұрын

@@DesertFernweh yup.

My father had miraculous escape due to his marriage. My parents got married on 1st Dec, a day before the marriage, in the hometown and hence my father left Bhopal a week back. It's a touchy topic in our family because even though he escaped, he knew people there who weren't so lucky and some of them still live with the consequences.

Town of Madhya Pradesh? It's actually a pretty big state. Second largest Indian state. It's bigger than the UK

@Justanotherconsumer

3 жыл бұрын

He said town of Bhopal then town again, so probably just a flub.

@suyashjohri475

3 жыл бұрын

Bhopal is not a town either, its is the capital city of Madhya Pradesh

@suyashjohri475

3 жыл бұрын

Just two comments that's it

@anuragbeohar9591

3 жыл бұрын

@@Justanotherconsumer i am from Bhopal.

@hassanejaz8742

3 жыл бұрын

Why You lot are crying?

I'm kind of confused by the whole "it was one disgruntled employee" thing. If one employee with a hose can generate a fatal accident then the issue is still with the plants safety processes.

@into_the_void

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, even if it was human error the failsafes didn't work , scrubbers didn't work , flare tower didn't burn off the gas, no alarm ..union carbide preferred saving money over maintaining safety .. local contractors were not properly qualified.. was a real shit show. Union carbide paid 470 million as fines for this but many people still haven't got settlement..

@jakeryan4545

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, although I think they did that more for the criminal charges part rather than then civil charges part. I think by saying that they had policies in place, but the local workers didn't follow them, they can argue that the executives shouldn't be held criminally liable (even if the company is still held liable in a civil case). Not saying that is correct either, but in a court it would be an easy argument to make.

@vaultsjan

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure you need to clean some rooms first.

@DesertFernweh

3 жыл бұрын

Ya, If the plant was up to code there is no way one person with a water hose could do all that.

@TheMattc999

3 жыл бұрын

@@into_the_void hahahah,you think they had safety measures? much less scrubbers? Back then? In India??? That's exactly why Union Carbide set this plant up in India in the first place, so they could cut cost on safety measures and standards, as well as lower labor costs as well as lesser training for the employees, every bit of which all contributed to virtually guarantee that something like this would happen sooner or later.

Hello Simon and team please can you look at doing a video on the Tokyo flood prevention system

@DarrenJr

3 жыл бұрын

Would be great to see!!

@christopherj5780

3 жыл бұрын

Now theres a megaproject

@Dominik-K

3 жыл бұрын

Please do a video about it, it's pretty important for Tokyo as a whole

@deen7052

3 жыл бұрын

Do it!

@scafleet

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds really cool.

The people running that plant should've been jailed for life for reckless endangerment, manslaughter, etc. And the charges should've been multiplied by each death.

@paulrouth5997

3 жыл бұрын

I would also include the executives from the U.S. Corporation that had oversight over the plant.

@snafu1542

3 жыл бұрын

You want to jail the central banks ? :o

@utkarshdeo4931

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha. Fun fact that the main convict was given safe passage to America and the government never took any attention towards the issue and just distributed money to shut the face of the people suffered from that incident. How does that sounds as a government!!!!. Yes this is the type of government that ruled our country for almost 7 decades. You can see the status of India even after this much time it is a developing country. No doubt the govt is responsible for all of the tragedies across the country. If you don't trust me just google scams by Congress govt in India, you will find the truth.

@donaldjohnson257

3 жыл бұрын

How u gonna multiply life?

@llyrghmnghyll

3 жыл бұрын

@@utkarshdeo4931 What was the murderer's Name again, I Know I knew it once.

15:40 Correction 1: Indore, not Bhopal, is the cleanest city. Indore is a city 90 miles south of Bhopal. 2: Bhopal's cleanliness today has nothing to do with the events of 1984. It's the competition between cities of Madhya Pradesh state that resulted in improvements in cleanliness and hygiene.

@ro45fan70

Жыл бұрын

Bhopal ranks at no 5 of India's cleanest city. And yes it's cleanliness is largely due to Swatchh Bharat Abhiyan

I remember coverage of the Bhopal disaster on the U.S. when it happened. It seemed so remote and distant that it was just a sad story from a far off land. Decades later you've done an excellent job of bringing the horror of this tragedy to life.

Madhya Pradesh is actually a state of size comparable to many countries. PS: Glad you decided to talk about the disaster.

@manas7372

3 жыл бұрын

MP is bigger than entire mainland UK..

@hariharanyuvaraj1754

3 жыл бұрын

"located in the town of Madhya Pradesh" this is such an understatement, I had to rewind and listen to it twice to make sure I heard it right.

@NarinderSinghHere

3 жыл бұрын

@@hariharanyuvaraj1754 haha yeah even I didn't comment before re-listening to it, making sure I wasn't making the comment in haste. Nonetheless, good thing the topic is covered for broader awareness around the world.

@Hegde-

3 жыл бұрын

Cant wait to see someone blaming modi for this... Lol😂😂

@sanjoykumarmitra7438

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hegde- well that's a stupid comment

At the moment, there are 64 dislikes. I wouldn't have imagined that many Union Carbide Executives watched this channel.

@Nuovoswiss

3 жыл бұрын

I left a dislike because he missed a really big reason why there was no clean-up: methyl isocyanate is extremely reactive and will decompose with atmospheric water and CO2. There's no way that you could "clean it up" faster than ambient conditions would. There are still remnants of decomposition products, but those don't really pose a risk.

@concept5631

3 жыл бұрын

Now its -265- 256 executives.

@associatedblacksheepandmisfits

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nuovoswiss what about ground water contamination today ??

@Nuovoswiss

3 жыл бұрын

@@associatedblacksheepandmisfits Again the issue is there's not really any way to "clean up" the reaction byproducts out of groundwater. Perhaps you could give the locals some carbon filters for their drinking water, but the byproducts that remain aren't really dangerous in trace concentrations.

@1101nz

3 жыл бұрын

Because of mid rolls adds. Making money off this subject

Never bought a Union Carbide product since. This company ruthlessly polluted everywhere they went.

@DominicNJ73

3 жыл бұрын

LOL Yes, you have. Ever use a battery? Who do you think produced that battery? Union Carbide did.

This SHOULD be a megaproject. $30M is barely a drop in a bucket for Dupont.

@Praisethesunson

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but that 30M could go to executive bonuses instead of safety for people too poor to sue.

@USSAnimeNCC-

3 жыл бұрын

@@Praisethesunson it socialism for the rich

@nicosmind3

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but the Indian government did own like 48/49% if memory serves, and its their regulations and standards that caused it (plus just the culture of expecting everything to work fine and accidents are always livable). If it was truely and only business to blame it would be every country with private enterprise that has these stories not just India. And besides the Soviets caused disasters in purpose. Pouring waste into rivers etc. It really comes down to who makes the rules. And you want there to be enough wealth that society can afford to enforce those rules.

@1pcfred

3 жыл бұрын

Wasn't DuPont's problem. Never was any American company's problem. To take it on would be admitting guilt. Union Carbide Limited of India was a wholly Indian owned company. Union Carbide Corporation's only failure was to do business with those scumbags at all. UCC made the mistake of licensing them processes. Indians built that plant and ran it. The way Indians tend to do those sorts of things. Which is not too well. Perhaps if the plant had been more financially successful things may have played out differently? As it was they were struggling from the get go. Which is why they had storage tanks overflowing with precursor chemicals. They should have been making product. Instead due to poor sales they just weren't. How they ultimately cleaned that plant up is they put it online. They ran through the materials on site. It was the safest thing to do.

@Praisethesunson

3 жыл бұрын

@@1pcfred Union Carbide ran the show dude. Saying it was run by Indians is deliberately dishonest BS pushed by Carbide. UC owned it. UC ordered the staff in India directly. Indians didn't run anything. UC gutted the facility to save themselves money.

Anybody interested, watch the movie, "Bhopal: a cry for rain", it captures the accident pretty accurately. Edit: The movie is available on Netflix India and Netflix USA, other regions i am not sure

@jacobzimmermann59

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the info, I certainly will.

@thomaskosko1

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info

@mrpixiledd2489

3 жыл бұрын

Where can we find it? If you know

@ImpmanPDX

3 жыл бұрын

Engineering Disasters did a halfway decent job as well for the 45 minute version. Also the CSB video is short but has lots of technical details.

@snafu1542

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, let's trust netflix xD

“As employees began evacuating…” LOL

This is one of those disasters we absolutely dissect in our industry classes for chemical engineering. It's appallingly easy to avoid horrific situations like this, but it takes care from the top level down. Can't expect the low level workers to just know what to do to prevent things they have no reason to think are even possible.

I belong to the City Bhopal, Though I was born in 1986 but I still remember my father narrated me the horrific night he was on duty at the railways station which was close by the plant, He continued his shift so as to save as many people & lives as he can. When he headed to hospital for checkup by the morning all he could see was streets filled with chaos and unclaimed Bodies of humans & animals. He still suffers from loss of eyesight and breathlessness. Till date there has been no cleanup of the area or the city.

Hey HBO, looking for a show after Chernobyl? Here you go!

@sabotabby3372

3 жыл бұрын

they wont do it because they can't use it as propaganda to defend capitalism

@utkarshdeo4931

3 жыл бұрын

They cant do it because there is no recovery to show. It was treated just like a natural disaster and no actions were taken during or after the incident. It will show the true color of the authorities and especially the govt so they will not be permitted to make a show on this.

@sabotabby3372

3 жыл бұрын

@Vaas Montenegro same thing

@draxthedestroyer3334

3 жыл бұрын

@@sabotabby3372 Well India wasn't really a free market capitalist nation during that time, in those times India was more inclined towards socialistic and communistic strategies , being allied to USSR thing. It is only after India became a fully free market capitalist nation that India has finally started to develop , and I hope India can achieve success at the same level of Scandinavian free market capitalism

@sabotabby3372

3 жыл бұрын

@@draxthedestroyer3334 you say this on the video about the chain of corporate negligence and profiteering that lead to the disaster

As an Indian, I am really glad you did this. A disaster of this magnitude should remain in public conscience and its sad that Indian public, media and government don't give this disaster its due regards. I visited this site twice and what is shocking is that the plant is in the middle of a densely populated area. Thousands of people still living a stone throw away and using the same groundwater which the plant is still leaking. Thanks for doing this. 2 minor corrections: 1 Madhya Pradesh is not a town its a state/province. 2 Bhopal is not the cleanest city in India, its satellite town INDORE is the cleanest and that too in regards to solid waste management alone.

@sakethvarma5079

6 ай бұрын

Indore is a city of its own right?

Thank you well needed

Simon as sad as the story about Bhopal is thank you for covering it

@1pcfred

3 жыл бұрын

He really did not cover it very well.

@joshbunton6424

3 жыл бұрын

@@1pcfred if he fully covered it it may have been taken down by KZread for graphic content

@1pcfred

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshbunton6424 there's nothing graphic about it. Just facts. What is graphic about too much precursor being stored? What is graphic about a broken pipe? What is graphic about who owns what? He mentioned the sabotage. That is very controversial. That someone did something that set all of this off.

@joshbunton6424

3 жыл бұрын

@@1pcfred the content itself wouldn't be graphic to us but KZread in its current state might have

@1pcfred

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshbunton6424 you think the Indian mafia would put Simon in cement overshoes?

Let’s get a video on the Hubble Space Telescope 🔭

@tahneegilbert8682

3 жыл бұрын

And the James Webb space telescope pleeeeease

@cameronward2079

3 жыл бұрын

Bump

@juancana5726

3 жыл бұрын

Sir, I've seen short, interesting videos elsewhere!?

@johnkumar6628

3 жыл бұрын

No, lets get justice for merican adventurism....

@QBCPerdition

3 жыл бұрын

Simon needs to "just" add yet another channel, all about space missions.

Side note: THe mention of a tea break reminded me of the Osirak raid by the Israeli Air Force in the 80s. They knew the radar crew shut down at night so they could fly in.

I had never heard of this. thank you and your team for talking about something so heartbreaking and shedding light on it for those of us who were in the dark.

I still remember reading about this in my textbook. The pages were totally black with some disturbing visuals. I still remember what the atmosphere in the class was when our teacher was telling us about bhopal gas tragedy.

@kvineet631

3 жыл бұрын

The video will get demonetized if they'll show actual images of the dead children. Some of them were in the 8th standard textbooks. I remember being very excited having my new books and was just going through all of them when i passed the chapter. The image of a dead girl with eyes like stones shook me to the core. I think they removed them from the books that are there now.

@ericsbuds

3 жыл бұрын

@@kvineet631 yikes. thats not an image i would ever want to see.

@SergeyPRKL

3 жыл бұрын

@@kvineet631 Here kids have that exact same image in the school books. We do not clean our teachingmaterials because if someone will get offended by it. It is a fact and needs to be told as is.

@1pcfred

3 жыл бұрын

What did they tell you?

@1pcfred

3 жыл бұрын

@Alex people tend to blame whatever is easiest to blame.

1:05 "But there are some megaprojects born out of disaster" Me: "That's my life in a nutshell"

@phurbasherpa7441

3 жыл бұрын

Our life

@meghanachauhan9380

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the club mate

Thank for explaining!

Thank you for covering this

Breaking the format to send a message is fine. Most of us are here for the random info anyways. Edit: Random as in I did not search for it but it appeared in my feed.

@Intercaust

3 жыл бұрын

Megaprojects, megadisasters, they are definitely related.

@cshan2313

3 жыл бұрын

not just any random info, random info that can teach us lessons for the future

@cameronward2079

3 жыл бұрын

I also come here to get the random info while I'm smoking.

@ascarta

3 жыл бұрын

So say we all

@tacla

3 жыл бұрын

Cameron Ward haha i feel that

HBO should definitely make a three-part series on this disaster, like Chernobyl

@tr808q

3 жыл бұрын

haha, thats what I thought when I saw the Chernobyl propaganda piece by HBO. I wondered would an american media company ever do such a series on a fuck up, that clearly rivals Chernobyl and surpasses it on its death toll.

@nicolaskloster121

3 жыл бұрын

i was thinking during the video: Chernobyl, a long chain of SOVIET negligence, coverups, fear bla bla bla.....Now look what they say for Bhopal. An employee sabottage. Weird right?

@mobiuscoreindustries

3 жыл бұрын

Especially because it helps put things into perfective. Nuclear is regarded by the public to be so hazardous and dangerous that everything should be tore down without a second thought (which most people with an inch of knowledge into the technology will know is nonsense), meanwhile simple chemical production can lead to gigantic accidents with no real way to clean it up, and where most often the plants operate in super close proximity to residential areas without real oversight. I mean think about it, 3 milles island was completly contained and in itself had no negative consequences, since the reactor was able to be safely decontaminated and extracted, and the second core kept operating flawlessly. Chernobyl was a pair of reckless operation, multiple breach of protocol, stupid desing descisions and not informing the plant operators of the specificity of RBMK operations. And fukushima was once again stupid descisions at the hand of the plant operators and ignoring safety reports that highlighted EXACTLY what could and would go wrong. That's just how most companies operate. If you allow them to slash costs, they will do so. They gain a lot of profit margins from slashing down on maintenance and they know that in case things go horribly wrong, they will get bailed out. Yet we need these things so we will obviously have an incentive to pay these companies a great deal to expand their operations as ususal. I feel like humans across the planet really need a reality check. It isn't because something feels more dangerous that it actually is. If it feels dangerous it most likely means that you have a fuckload of safety and backup measures put in place, and that the role of the public is to force those useless politics to uphold their word and to hold companies acountable when they do not respect the regulations. We should also push to upgrade our processes to the most modern and efficient itteration as much as possible, since old equipement operates less efficiently anyways and is the cause for most of the waste products that any industry produces. Obviously nuclear would benefit the most for it, since all of the "problems" with nuclear were fixed decades ago but never implemented due to public outcry and declining budgets, but it would aslo help for almost every industrial fields.

@awayfrom234........

3 жыл бұрын

Why would they?? Warren Anderson, the owner was a US citizen, they protected him until his death a few years ago. Bhopal was a bigger disaster than Chernobyl yet pretty few people know about it.

@randomsurfer8865

3 жыл бұрын

you can actually check national geographics documentary they've already made one.

I was born and raised in Bhopal and still live there. I've seen countless protests by the original inhabitants whole lived next to the factory and their descendents. Each year the disaster is commemorated and there is a holiday on 3nd Dec (Day of disaster). The waste still lies in the area. The water is still toxic. The children born are often stunted, malformed, blind, retarded, you name it. The affected are still struggling for compensation. The disaster was unfortunate, but even more unfortunate was the handling of it by the government.

Thank you for covering

I would love to see a video on the Basílica de la Sagrada Família

@projectmgrnj

3 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Stave I agree, it is a beautiful cathedral

@archstanton6102

3 жыл бұрын

Was there in 07, is it finished yet?

@projectmgrnj

3 жыл бұрын

Nik Turk Was there last year. It won’t be finished for another several years, but tower construction was going on in earnest.

@falconerd343

3 жыл бұрын

Not Megaprojects, but Real Engineering did a video on that recently: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nZ-Cqcazn8KZdaQ.html

Maybe a video on the palace of Knossos? Haven't covered a lot of ancient stuff in awhile

Simon, thank you for taking up this issue. I am not from Bhopal, but have a couple of friends who lost a lot of people there in this tragic disaster. Thanking you for reminding us all of this terrible incident. Please do keep the voices of the helpless alive!!

This is amazing. I remember seeing like three minutes on the news about it when it happened, and thought at the time that this is how it always happens and they'll never get justice. This is so good that you do these video projects about these things, because otherwise there would be no other accountability.

Mega Projects- Teddy Roosevelt's Great White Fleet

@cookingonthecheapcheap6921

3 жыл бұрын

Drachinifel has a great video about the great white fleet if you're interested in it.

@tonyeldredge7973

3 жыл бұрын

Possibly a Bismarck/Tirpitz episode would be nice or that crazy iceberg carrier brittan wanted to build

@DaKillerChipmunk

3 жыл бұрын

@@tonyeldredge7973 I think Simon has a video on that iceberg carrier somewhere. It's on Today I found out. /watch?v=1HxXoTpgzSg

@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts

3 жыл бұрын

Been asking for a video on this too, glad to see others have the same idea 👍

@alexs5744

3 жыл бұрын

How about a video on the Bismarck. He already did a video on the Yamato and it would make sense to make a Bismarck video.

Never heard about this disaster. Its terrible where can greed lead to. They pretty much did a WW1 style gas attack on civilians.

@jeffreyschueler2223

3 жыл бұрын

And it will never change. Greedy mothfuckers run the world and continue to acquire wealth and power to the detriment of everyone else.

@SurajVadulas

3 жыл бұрын

there are conspiracy theories that it was a deliberate leak to test the potency of the gas.

@russetwolf13

3 жыл бұрын

Always remember: There's a reason you never heard about this.

@vatsalsaxena1725

3 жыл бұрын

I'm shocked that you haven't... It's pretty well known.. like Chernobyl!! P.s.: I live in Bhopal :)

@tomtheplummer7322

3 жыл бұрын

If you didn’t know about this you are too young or weren’t paying attention at the time.

Wow... And yet people pretend companies could be trusted with our safety without external oversight. Absolutely horrible!

Well done!! Really excellent work in bringing this out with such detail and clarity. The corrupt and unscrupulous reign while people's lives were annihilated within days and nights. Thank you

It's a passion project from yourself Mr Simon involving raising awareness about relatively quiet tragedy. How could I ever thumbs down such a thing. I would however suggest that if you'd like to continue this trend perhaps making a series of mismanaged disasters. Love everything you do by the way. Keep up the great work.

New series on environmental disasters? Not really a shortage of them.

@Hibernatus50

3 жыл бұрын

Yes please do!!!

@just_chris1630

3 жыл бұрын

New channel Mega... I couldn’t think of anything that would be appropriate without significant ****

@Underestimated37

3 жыл бұрын

Disasterology: the biggest and most notable disasters in recorded history

@somethinglikethat2176

3 жыл бұрын

The Kyshtym disaster would be a great one to do.

Good on you for covering this.

Thank you so much for covering this topic!! I do not understand how this tragedy did not get much coverage!!

You know what dude? We need more videos like this. People have no idea the kind of disasters like this that have happened all over the world, even in their own backyards. I liked it.

correction: Indore in Madhya Pradesh was declared the 'cleanest city' in the Swachh Bharat Survey, not Bhopal.

@pranayvaka1113

3 жыл бұрын

Bohpal 2nd

@kuldeeprana1908

3 жыл бұрын

@@pranayvaka1113 surat is second not bhopal

I am from Bhopal , and I know people who have suffered it. It has been a long fight for the People. And still their generations are suffering.

Very well put together, informative, respectfully done guys. People forget about things like this. Good to see stuff like this Simon. You guys keep it up.

Ultimately the Indian government needs to clean it and they can argue over who to bill afterwards.

@rowannyooom6958

3 жыл бұрын

I say that their government, the company, and any volunteers should work to clean it. They can't decide who's fault it was, so they might as well stop b!tching about it and work together to actually solve the problem.

@Tenohekabanzai

3 жыл бұрын

😉 u have never been to the 3rd world i see

@dwarasamudra8889

3 жыл бұрын

It needs to be cleaned but I'd say that Bhopal has kind of moved on unfortunately. The city is focusing more on building metro rail, bus networks as well as better roads, parks and pedestrian facilities and a brand new cbd than cleaning up the dangerous wreckage.

@wintersbattleofbands1144

3 жыл бұрын

Never happen. You've never been to India, I take it.

@raerohan4241

2 жыл бұрын

@@dwarasamudra8889 If that stuff isn't taken care of, eventually there won't be any people there to use the metro, buses, parks, etc. That stuff is leaking into the groundwater. The birth rate of deformed children will only continue to go upwards if it goes on like this

from BHOPAL 🙋🏻‍♂️ the Union Carbide plant is literally 6 miles away from my home. I'm really glad & happy you brought the Bhopal Gas Tragedy incident to light. It is very sad and heart breaking how people ignored the pain and misery cause by the disaster and just moved on like nothing happened. Only our parents and grandparents can understand the loss that union carbide plant caused 💔

Thank you so much for doing this video. From the bottom of my heart to the top of my head.....my thanks and respect!!

Thanks for doing this one.

How about one on the proposed (many times) bridges across the Bearing Straight or the Straights of Gibraltar?

@oliverg.1280

3 жыл бұрын

gibraltar spanish

@jonnunn4196

3 жыл бұрын

@Clinton Lewis Indeed, a bridge there would be highly disruptive to commerce, goods going to/from UK / Ireland and India via the Suez Canal.

Union Carbide was in charge. The top people of Carbide had lifetime bans never to be allowed to enter India. Those American's officals were found not guilty by American court's, no fines or jail time.

@benzminibusdoc

3 жыл бұрын

Surprise, surprise.

@sullivanrachael

2 ай бұрын

Well, if the American officials were made to do prison time in an Indian jail, no foreign company would ever invest in India ever again. So the Indian government could not punish them any harder. Plus Indianising the American designed plant, making it cheaper and less safe to operate was more or less the responsibility of the Indian government who stipulated the plant must have been constructed using Indian supplied engineering. It could be argued the Indian engineering was not entirely up to the task expected of it, and the corrosion in pipes, faults in instruments and other common failures were not the fault of the American Union carbide corporation; they did inspect and make corrective suggestions which the Indian management ignored, probably because they couldn’t afford to rebuild the plant as it couldn’t sell its expensive pesticide product in India… epic design flaws created by political imposition on the technology and engineering implementation. You could say if the American company had been allowed to put anAmerican built plant in India it would be engineered in a safer way. But the end product, a pesticide named Sevin, probably would have been far too expensive to be successful. The Americans assumed of they made something good in massive quantities, it would drive the price down. As it happened, the MIC was not made at the plant initially and the Alpha Napthol - another of the ingredients - was never made as intended due to design flaws in the plant. So having to import ingredient chemicals instead of making them in Bhopal really screwed up the economics.

Thanks for stepping out on the edge to present this. Liked. Subscribed.

I had never heard of this, glad you brought it up. Keep up the good work.

I did read about and from what I remember a lot of things to make it safe was disabled. You had lot of things not really working like too many false alarms so alarm was disabled and other things was not working anymore like cooling I think from some nasty chemicals. So it was a ticking bomb.

@ritamayachattakhandi6732

3 жыл бұрын

what didn't help at all was how union carbide disregarded all requests from the plant management for maintenance budgets. For them, this was an "out of sight, out of mind" case

Good job, I remember when it happened. I can’t believe the current state. Two years later was Chernobyl.

Thank you for talking about this.

these stories need to be told, thank you for sharing it

As an 🇮🇳 it was a tragic accident, but we haven’t learnt a lot from that as unholy nexus between government and capitalist is growing day by day, former has diluted many laws in favour of later ex- EIA Draft 2020 In recent couple of months we have faced 3 accidents alone.

@Overworkedandunderpaid

3 жыл бұрын

I’m sorry to hear that.

@YS-hl1hy

3 жыл бұрын

you should support communism.

@rushiljuneja

3 жыл бұрын

Yogesh Sharma are you mad and have you forgotten all the mishaps happened because of Russia (communist country)

@PB-dd7kv

3 жыл бұрын

This is not really about capitalism or socialism. Its about corruption and lack of will to protect the environment.

@jokuvaan5175

3 жыл бұрын

@@PB-dd7kv Yea. Communism and capitalism etc. are just empty words that distract people from discussing the real issues. Corrupt politicians don't care what their system is called

See here’s the thing Simon. Your frequent upload schedule and your sweet buttery smooth voice makes up for any lack of entertainment in the story. You could talk about a hole in the ground and we’ll still love you. Keep up the good work dad.

Good video, I had never heard of this terrible accident until now. I'm so glad that this channel and a few others cover history like this from time to time so it is not forgotten and so we can learn from these terrible tragedies and hopefully never repeat them.

Sir thank you. I remember this happening and it should not be forgotten. Respect for all those still suffering there

It's like the bad ending to Chernobyl, where that megaproject helped contain and secure the old reactor building, this is just unsettling. There have been a lot of unaccounted for oil spills in the Gulf of Mexico as well. Just another horrid example of how inhumane and reckless the oil/gas industry is.

My friends and I went kayaking in those rivers last summer. Most of us came back with weird skin rashes. Now I know the reason.

@Cau_No

3 жыл бұрын

@Dhum tana na na If the soil the river runs through is contaminated, you will have to wait a *long* time until it is 'clean'. So I would not rule out the reason to be contaminants of the incident and factory from 40 years ago. There certainly are even other sources around, both natural and industrial, so better keep out of the waters anyway. What makes chemicals worse than any nuclear energy incident: That stuff does not decay or break down as fast as radioactive materials do, and you cannot detect them as easy as with an geiger counter. (Yes, I got a degree (diploma) in physical chemistry)

Thanx for this topic and you have done great work 👍🏻

5:45: They found the leak of a highly toxic substance........and went for a tea break!🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. Very good video on the non-clean-up.

A good mega project would be the setup in organizing of an x games how they build all the ramps and courses in the matter of basically a week

@michaelmulcahey2837

3 жыл бұрын

@@D2.159 either way it is quite the feat. I mean all the various courses all together, not just one setup for one event.

@OneMouseGaming

3 жыл бұрын

@@D2.159 The half-pipe at snowmass does not even melt out until the summer. My sister has been living in the aspen area for years now, both her& my BIL worked for a non profit for years that allowed them to get subsidized rent. Its a gorgeous place though, we went to her wedding in Aspen. Building the Event Features themselves is a lot of work. That halfpipe is huge and has to be remade every year. The slope-style course and the features have to be built. I think there is enough there in the run up run down of the event to make an episode. The inn at snowmass is pivotal in it as well as they work with espn in terms of all the lodging and facilities. Finally the tie in with the ski patrol & how much they have to ramp up their usual activity. on and on.

@fortunax22

3 жыл бұрын

Lol other mega projects include the Panama Canal and the Hoover Dam... lets do one on the x games building ramps... lol

@billwheeler1213

3 жыл бұрын

Dude. ....... that's quite the comment after this topic..... maybe could have saved that one

Never heard of this before today, They love to talk about chernobyl disaster, But there is so many disasters as humanity places upon each other... I think the real megaproject here is getting someone to take responsibility.

@anuragbeohar9591

3 жыл бұрын

I am from Bhopal. Effects still there. It was like Chernobyl & Nagasaki disaster.

@dylanwoods2418

3 жыл бұрын

what does responsibility matter after the fact? it already happened what’s it’s gonna change if a company comes out and says “it’s our fault”? come on dude

@thomascrowell5103

3 жыл бұрын

@@dylanwoods2418 wouldn't you love for somebody to take responsibility for the death of your family's and love-ones... Plus maybe pay more than compensate you with more than pennies on the dollar

It’s vital for this tragic story to be told. Thank you for using your voice and platform.

Informative and interesting, thanks Simon

To quote an old american military song: „DOW-Chemical doesnt give a shit.“

@gabenguyen1216

3 жыл бұрын

"Napalm sticks to kids!"

If you're not angry at Dupont already, go watch Dark Water. A great movie that will knock your anger up to 11.

Thank you so much for covering this event!

Keep up the great work

A video on Ajanta & Ellora caves in India. They are rock cut structures & took about 700 & 400 yrs to build respectively I'll keep on pestering you until you make a video

This was a really important story to tell, just leaves me wondering what I can or should do about it? Not really sure how it fits with your typical story lines but I guess in light of the magnitude of the disaster and the aftermath I suppose it does not matter and for those of us that care to follow up in some way we will have to find a way to respond on our own and as such this would be my one complaint is that you did not provide a contact to do so. Thank you for producing and providing this video,

@kabir3510

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, Norman its really great to see so much empathy. However, Im fairly certain there isn't much you can do as the accident was 36 years ago. And there are not many non-profits that exist to still help victims. The country and the city of Bhopal as has pretty much moved on from the tragedy. If you truly wish to help the people of Bhopal, I suggest you visit after the pandemic. Its a beautiful city with a rich history and a unique culture that has come a long way from 1984. PS: Every government since 1984. Has promised to clean up the factory site.

@SergeyPRKL

3 жыл бұрын

You can't do anything to it except vote for people into positions that can and are willing to set laws so it prevents it. Now problem is, corps gets punished, not the persons behind them. Corps doesn't care, its only money and there is plenty to make more.

@kabir3510

3 жыл бұрын

@@SergeyPRKL That's not how it works in India. You vote for people to bring change, they promise change and nothing happens. People adapt and accept here. They move away find new homes and exist in their new normal eventually everyone moves on and we forget that something horrible happened. No one talks about it no one does anything about it. It is what it is.

This is another one of those videos I can't say that I actually like but it is important that you covered it and it is important to watch it. Keep up the good work.

You did the right thing covering this. People need to be reminded.

thanks

Thanks Simon 🙏🙏🙏. Actually, I have never heard such a big cleanup Operation is yet to happen in Bhopal.

Excellent follow up as I too always wondered what the aftermath was. Thank you, fascinating video Simon.

Thank you!!! for doing this video and bringing to the light a disaster whose consequences are still being felt...

Hello from bhopal , glad to see bhopal gas tragedy getting the coverage it deserves . 😁

This would go well in a series called "Mega Disasters" where you discuss the biggest disasters of any kind, what caused them, and how they were handled.

Thank you for taking the risk and telling this story Simon. It was a really important one for all of us to hear.

You're really stepping up with this video. Great work!

15:40 Bhopal is NOT the cleanest city for 3 years, that accolade was given to Indore, the economic capital of the state, ~200 Kms from Bhopal. As of 2020, Indore has become the cleanest city of India for 4 years in a row.

@nicke1903

3 жыл бұрын

How could anything that has the Ganges flowing through it be "Clean"?

@manas7372

3 жыл бұрын

@@nicke1903 Take a visit and see for yourself.. or if you broke AF, just Google it.

@Inaf1987

3 жыл бұрын

@@nicke1903 Ganges flowing through Indore? You really are not that good at Geography, are you , you would do all of us a huge favor if you did not discuss politics about a country that you clearly know very little of

@zarathustra4649

3 жыл бұрын

Nick E lmao wtf the Ganges don’t flow through MP xD. I’m from Bhopal and my college is in Indore and I can say by experience that both of these cities are clean I’ve seen the amount of work they put every night . Working whole night cleaning the roads .

@gracefulcubix4730

3 жыл бұрын

The poha is really good in bhopal train stations.

Tennessee Valley Authority Dam projects during the new deal era

I appreciate you making this video

For sure need more videos like this

Much love from India ❤

Maybe a mega disasters channel with Simon? I know there was a series called mega disasters (it's one of my favorites), but that was like 10+ years ago and only had a handful of episodes. I'd watch a mega disasters channel with Simon.

Thanks Simon. I agree these subjects need to be discussed, in the hope we eventually learn something. Don't stop!