Apparently I caused some confusion about Managed vs Unmanaged. YES, this switch is a managed switch, by default booting into RouterOS. It can also run SwitchOS, documentation for both can be found here: mt.lv/help The device is capable of running unmanaged as well. According to MikroTik's documentation: "This device is not preconfigured, other than an IP address for management access, it can be used as a switch right away. You can connect from any port, as all ports are switched together by default. Other configuration has to be applied according to the documentation manual linked above." The point I was trying to make was the device can be used as a plug and play, OR as a managed switch or router. I did not communicate that clearly. Of course, in a production environment, I would always recommend changing default user names/passwords on a managed device. But for a home user, it's likely OK to run out of the box just as is. You need physical access to the device to address the management on it. And stop correcting my pronunciation of MikroTik. There are about a dozen 'corrections' below, and all of them are different.

@sin3r6y98

5 жыл бұрын

Have you looked at fs.com? They are cheaper on pretty much everything you listed in the description and all built to work together. We use their fiber / DAC products at work with no issues. Switch and NIC aside of course...

@CraftComputing

5 жыл бұрын

@@sin3r6y98 I've used FS for years. Great stuff.

@FabienMagagnosc

5 жыл бұрын

Craft Computing so, you can check that the difference mmf versus smf you told is actually not true : by buying and putting in your walls a duplex smf fiber, with smf sftp+ allow you, with the same fiber installation, to go to 100 GBPs later, when with mmf, the current limitation is still 10gbps So. Basically.you advice people to use non upgradable fiber, (duplex mmf can do 1 and 10, and 40 Gbps, when a duplex smf allow from 1 to 100 gbps). The worth is the excuse that you told is that it’s for building for long distance : fair enough. But it doesn’t change the fact that investing on sfp+ + 5 meter duplex mmf om4 low lost is 35 euros , and sfp+ + duplex smf is 65 euros, but the cabling installation and all the money you put (especially true for sme/smb) to instal it (man hours) won’t be lost as you need to replace mmf with a mmf trunk later, which is then much more expensive ! To conclude, you can laugh about Linus tech (why not), but do not recommend things like that with fake serious excuse. When basically, the reality is that you build a cheap lost 10 Gbps network here, where all you money is lost, when you can plan and advice people properly with serious advice right from the beginning ! Thanks,for the switch test !

@CraftComputing

5 жыл бұрын

I specified in a home environment, there's no difference. And if you need 100Gb fiber, you are exceeding the 'home' spec, regardless of where you're running cable.

@sin3r6y98

5 жыл бұрын

duplex OM3 / OM4 is 100gb capable, just with a cost of shorter ranges. Unless you plan on having single runs longer than 100 meters, OM3/4 will gladly do 100gbit in the future.

Its exciting to see 10gig trickling down to consumer tech! Nice video Jeff!

@cpypcy

5 жыл бұрын

More like prosumer. Since there is pretty big mess in connection and cable types to worry about.

@eugrus

5 жыл бұрын

Probably heard of Asus XG-U2008. I guess a lot of 10GbE consumer level (fanless, RJ45) switches are coming in 2019.

@movax20h

5 жыл бұрын

@@cpypcy Kind of. The choice and flexibility can be overwhellming. Even for prosumers it can be a problematic. Long story short: SFP+, 10BASE-SR (850nm , multi mode in duplex on two fibers), LC (Lucent Connector) plugs, multimode OM3 fiber (you can also do fine with OM4). That is all. Do not try to overcomplicate it. The only thing that is hard is making custom lengths of cables. Where you might need to order them, as the equipement to splice cables and connectors isn't supper cheap. (But honestly isn't supper expensive either if you want to play along). Or just take multiple cables and connect them using adapters. Should be perfectly fine for less than 200meters.

@jfbeam

5 жыл бұрын

It's starting to, but until it shows up in hundred dollar laptops, and built into $50 motherboards, it'll remain an expensive oddity. GigE is built into almost everything. When's the last time you bought a stand-alone network card? Gig switches can be found in almost any retail outlet these days. (I've seen them in grocery stores!) And they're disposable-cheap. 10G is still an order of magnitude (or more) more expensive (per port), and available almost nowhere. (certainly in retail)

@marklowe7431

5 жыл бұрын

If your pci bus can deal with it.

BTW for home deployments RJ45 10gb Base-T works fine over good cat5e. Before running fiber I just said 'why not' and gave it a try and iperf showed full 10gb. If you're going like 50meters definitely will need 6A but if you've already got good cat5e in the wall it.... Probably will be plenty fine

As I quickly approach purchasing my first home, this will now be a part of my home network. Thanks for the video!

You killed it. Nobody else's video presented all of the options so goddamn clearly and concisely. Thank you.

Thanks for all the info. I had been wanting a 10GbE network in my home office for quite a while, but the cost kept me from doing so. I bought the MikroTik switch and everything else needed to network two computers and a NAS with 10GbE. It's working great and everything together with tax was under $325.

You’re incredibly underrated. Keep up your high quality videos :)

@Dmitryzakharov

5 жыл бұрын

he is not original, it took him 8 mins to talk about a switch..... so, he is rating is just about right, I would even say people are kind to him

@PoeLemic

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Samuel Jackson -- he sure is under-rated. Just found out about the guy, and I like him already. Who wouldn't like someone that sips a little here & there during the video. Same as me when I'm doing anything.

@rampage_sl

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dmitryzakharov lol really?

KZread recommend this video to me on the homepage, and boy, was I excited! This is the kind of content I'm looking for!

0:45 "But hold on a second, Linus" made my day :)

Said it once, say it again: you make some really good content and are obscenely underrated. You should have in the 7 digits subs man... Keep being awesome!

@CraftComputing

5 жыл бұрын

That's the goal ;-)

@mattscheurman1616

5 жыл бұрын

I second this guy! Thats why I subbed a while ago!

@ICANewStarBorn

4 жыл бұрын

Nice joke!

I can see the appeal of this setup. It is a nice option for those using SFP+. For those that have rack mount enterprise switches with an SFP+ connection, this would be perfect to tie into the rest of your network without the hassle of trying to daisy chain network cards between computers. Though the product came a bit too late for me. I've been running an Intel 550-T2 adapter in my server and ran a CAT6 cable to my desktop. It gave the option to hook up to two 10Gb cables directly to my server. Suits my needs and didn't require me to run fiber to my desktop.

I dont usually leave comments but im sick of lame "big" youtubers so i figured i give a shout out. I really enjoyed your content, youre very consise with your explanation. I am subscribed now and excited to watch more content. I appreciate the light humor, while also very much appreciate the keeping it to a minimum. I thought this was a very cool idea for a solution to a project I'm working on that involves some older tech that i need to communicate at faster speeds however dont currently support an on board 10gb connector. I'm excited to put this to the test. Keep up the good work and very impressed with this channel

I’m so glad this channel popped up into my suggestions.

but hold on a second linus ! LMAO this is a much better idea

@Flugschreipbaer

5 жыл бұрын

sure, years later, there are easier solutions... ^^

Very nice, legit affordable 10G for the home. I've been debating this for quite some time but the best I could find was a couple hundred dollars for 2 * 10g & 8 * 1G style switches. Even those were north of $250 for the switch alone. I also never thought of using glass at home because I though MMF & transceivers were too expensive. Thank you very much!

Wow, looking back, I can't believe where Craft Computing started. This channel has got so much better now. I laughed & loved the good ole' days, but I'm glad CC is in Top Tier ranks now ...

The is awesome! as and idiot who never understood what those metal things at the end of the cables are, just you showing that it plugs directly into the switch port has been incredibly helpful! I think i learned more from this than any other video on 10gbe. thanks!

Great way to get 10GB in the home without overspending. Great explanation

Awesome video... and with a great sense of humor towards Linus. I love the 'one liners'....

More people need to know about this. This is super helpful - thank you so much dude! Cheers 🍺

This really only works for those of us nerds with full client server networks in our house. Unfortunately most home network usage is destined to the internet and we are limited by our internet bandwidth. As many of you know we use 10gig links in the enterprise for switch or AP uplinks because we are aggregating multiple users on that switch. Unless your operating a B&B a home network would almost never hit contention on a gig network. That being said, great video. I like that you kept the topic clear and didnt make outrageous claims about the product.

This is actually a fully managed switch and router (layer 3). It can be used with internal switch in bridge mode for pure switching, or setup arbitrary config with each port being on separate network (not just VLAN), and do routing using a built in CPU and OS. You can switch between switch and router modes during boot. When in router mode, one can also configure a subset of ports to be a switch (or switches) and others to be independent and do routing between networks. You an use all fancy mikrotik features, log via Web, telnet, ssh or use their app to manage bunch of these. Or point to master management switch to have one place to manage all gear. BTW. When in routing mode it will be using the on board CPU to do all packet routing, and that it is going to be slow. You might be able to get to 1Gbps, maybe 2Gbps, but not really more. But if you want a single device, do a 10Gbps network with 3 computers, and use another port to connect to Internet and do NAT and routing, you can do it just fine with this device. I am pretty sure you can also run DHCP (for sure) and DNS (less sure) server on it if you want. And it supports IPv6 nicely. It is CRS - Cloud Router Switch.

@maitakemani9552

Жыл бұрын

Mikrotik is awesome!

The part "but hold for a second, Linus" earned you one more subscriber :D Hilariously accurate! Nice video btw!

Finally! A good SFP+ switch that isn’t a power suck, too loud, or over $500 from ubiquiti. Thanks for testing this out and finding a current vendor.

It’s awesome to see how far we’ve come in connectivity terms. 10 gig accessible for those at home and 40 & 100 now common in the datacenter.

@PoeLemic

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, in Sept 2020, it seems like most of this stuff is really starting to get affordable, even if you don't jerry-rig it.

Found your channel by chance while researching In-Home 10GbE, love your style and presentation. You got a new sub!

@murruhuy8085

5 жыл бұрын

me too!

Nice! Very informative video, man. Props from Sofia, Bulgaria.

Nice video. Wasn't aware of this product despite the fact that I've used Mikrotik's router products for years. Great company with solid products.

Nifty, I'll keep this in mind the next time I update my home LAN.

One slight correction: Singlemode fiber connections run at 1310nm, not 1330 as stated in the video. 1GbE and 10GbE SM fiber connections both use 1310nm on a duplex connection, though simplex connections over a single strand tend to use 1310 for one direction and 1490 for the other. GPON also uses 1310nm for upstream traffic from the ONT to the OLT, with 1490 being used for downstream traffic. XGS-PON (10g PON) uses a completely different pair of wavelengths.

@Blast357

5 жыл бұрын

dont forget 1550

@dustmite2012

5 жыл бұрын

850nm SR= short range, is a Multimode Fiber connection. 1310 LR= long range, CWDM (1410-1610 wavelengths), 1550 ZR for 80 to 120 km spans & DWDM, is all Single mode Fiber connections it can be simplex or duplex fibers. Singlemode allows you to cover a greater span with a wider set of thresholds vs Multi mode. The OM3 fiber is Multi Mode and can work with 100GE for up to 100 meters. Great video by the way man, keep them coming. You are a very knowledgeable individual.

This is perfect and just what I have been looking for to connect my ZFS Video Editing NAS to my 2 Workstations (Mac Pro 5,1 and HP Z820). Perfect! Thanks a bunch!

@CraftComputing

5 жыл бұрын

That's the main reason for my upgrade, is to capture and edit video directly from the NAS storage.

5 жыл бұрын

@@CraftComputing Sweet. I have have been running a Davinci Resolve 14 setup with a ZFS RaidZ2 Media NAS on some random hardware I had for almost a year, and for what it is worth It been okay to work with considering I have edited and colour graded 5K RedRaw footage. I still need to tweak some stuff and I think beef up my editing system to get smooth playback, but it works and not even really tuned yet. This is with a single DAC connection between my Workstation and the NAS.

Glad to see prices dropping on this sort of stuff. I ran Cat 6a in my house awhile back so that when prices finally got low enough I could start looking at getting myself some 10gbit ethernet switches for that great server action.

We appreciate you. Thanks for the content.

Mikrotik gear on the other hand it's some of the best. I have the RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN router, I have 3 connections to it, 1 GB fiber optics, 1 gigabit copper and 1 4G connection via USB (we're in Romania so we have plenty of bandwidth), I am giving internet to most of my street, while hosting games on the servers mentioned in a previous comment, I have about 200 active clients at any given time. Holds up like a champ.

Glad to see a video about this Microtik. I picked one up to do exactly this when we get our new house later this year. Going to run fiber instead of DAC cables as I plan on having the Microtik centrally located and I don't want to spend a ton of money on 20 foot or longer DAC cables :D

Beer and Computers? You're my kind of KZreadr! As much as I'd love to have a full 10Gb home network I just have too many devices and couldn't really justify the expense.

just found your channel. great stuff. looking forward to watching your videos and new ones to come. thx.

@lcrazy8l

5 жыл бұрын

Ditto, this hit my KZread front page today yet I've never come across his vids before. The algorithm is feeling this channel.

I like, straight to the point, all the information I need to make a reasonably informed decision, thanks for sharing this, I'll consider this in the future when I make my own router

Thanks for the great video! Really helpful simple explanation. I was just looking into picking up a few of those network cards. Might have to pull the trigger now

Sweet video, This CRS305 switch has amazing performance for the price. We definitely recommend this one

That is an awesome option for 10gbe thank you for sharing... Wait... No review on the brew?

"MADE IN MALAYSIA" :) proud to be Malaysian

Just got a whole semester of info in less than 10 minutes! That was very well executed! Great content! Never seen your videos before but i will check out a few more >subscribed!

this just helped me plan out my future home network upgrade!, been looking to do a 10G home network but didnt really like the costs at first, but now thats changed!

Awesome! I bet MikroTik's *CRS305-1G-4S+IN* sells will have a spike in the next few days :D That product name though... Highly considering such a setup for my homelab.

@movax20h

5 жыл бұрын

1G - 1 giga bit RJ45 port at 1Gbps 4S+ - 4 SFP+ ports at 10Gbps IN - PoW power in CRS - Cloud Router/Switch (other lines RB - small business routers, CCR - cloud managed router, CCS - cloud managed switch, 305 - the 05 is because it has 5 total ports. 3 is because it is lowest series in the lineup. Makes good sense to me.

the Linus impression xD

Great video. Very entertaining & well put together. Keep up the great work!

Thanks for breaking down all the components I would need. As a pro-sumer I was lost trying to figure out a path to 10G that didn't cost an arm and a leg. My layout needs 4 switches which made the computer adapter costs a rounding error :)

5:10 A third reason not to buy a RJ45 to SFP+ adapter: They are getting very hot. In a switch with a high density of SFP+ Ports, the heat can cause errors or to shut the switch down. In my company we tried to connect Servers in a lab with RJ45 to SFP+ Adapters. The Cisco switch we had was a Catalyst 3850 which shut down after a few hours of load. The reason was that we used these adapters which led into triggering the heat shutdown.

Actually it is a managed switch. It has dual boot for SwOS/RouterOS. So technically it can do everything that a Mikrotik router can do. You can also get a Mikrotik SFP S+RJ10 10Gbps module for just 50$.

@Tom-kh2vx

5 жыл бұрын

Vai tu esi latviešu?

@ScottFreemire

5 жыл бұрын

I read this on Microtik's site: "Any MikroTik device with active cooling that has SFP+ ports can now be used without installing any optical fiber, just plug the S+RJ10 and your network can be upgraded to 10 Gbps, making it ready for the next generation of RJ45 hardware. So maybe not with this switch?

Before I got to t he end of the video, I already went to Amazon and purchased the switch. The pair of boards were unavailable at Amazon and I had to buy something more expensive. I also ordered several DAC cables for my initial proof of concept installation. Thanks so much for the video, I am inspired. :-)

MikroTik makes good hardware. Learning their CLI and RouterOS can be a bit of a learning curve. Been preaching about them for a long time.

I looked up and it seems to be running RouterOS or SwOS, meaning it's fully managed. Good thing I looked it up, now getting two. Wouldn't have gotten were they unmanaged.

@DerekHubbard

5 жыл бұрын

You might not get full throughput when you start dinking with your packets.

When I move my rack out of my room, I'm likely going to be running 10gig through a UniFi US-16-XG.

Thank you so much for the video, this is exactly what I need for our small media company, the setup was so easy and speed is great, time to get a NVMe ssd so I can keep up with the write speed lol.

Great and informative video. And great speed!!! Thanks

Great video and enjoyed the Linus references! I'm planning to build an office at the back of the garden (30m/90feet away). Now I'm wondering if I should go for 10G, though as I'm digging it by hand, I'd prefer the one that is longest lasting, as I don't want to dig up again for at least 5 years! Keep up the great work.

@Renderman-Official

5 жыл бұрын

In your case i would certainly opt for fiber and 10gbit! Copper can degrade over time though it will likely take 20+ years. Fiber on the other hand lasts far longer and there will be ever higher speeds on fiber connections if you would like to use the link for faster speeds down the line. Be sure to put whatever cable you decide to use in a protective pipe made to use in the ground. Good luck with your project!

@reidster87

5 жыл бұрын

I'm just doing something similar at the moment and I'd recommend using conduit rather than direct burial for the data cabling. Using a fish tape, you can pull string through the conduit, tie/tape your cabling to the continuous string, then use the string to pull the cabling and more string through. This way you have your cabling and string in the conduit. If you need to replace the cabling or add some down the road, you still have string in the conduit to pull new stuff. The cable/fibre should be less prone to mechanical damage during and after installation too. I'd do this whether you decide to go for copper or fibre.

@bikerchrisukk

5 жыл бұрын

@@Renderman-Official Hi Mike, thank you for that, really appreciated, 10Gbit it is then, I don't like re-digging if I can help it! Don't worry on the protective side of things, found some good conduit with high IP rating. Thanks for the good luck, I might need it! A real shame KZread doesn't notify for actual responses, it was only that I clicked when it said someone thumbed up my comment!

@bikerchrisukk

5 жыл бұрын

@@reidster87 Hi Reid, Thank you very much for commenting, I've got the method down pat for getting the cabling through the conduit, but it's never bad to have confirmation. Even found the fish tape on Screwfix already, never thought about leaving the string there, very good advice, thank you! A real shame KZread doesn't notify for actual responses, it was only that I clicked when it said someone thumbed up my comment!

5 жыл бұрын

dig a tube, run whatever you want later.

:)

@tnaxpw

5 жыл бұрын

I can spot your comments on every newer video I watch for last week, I'm being suspicious. But I like your videos, just like this one :)

@EposVox

5 жыл бұрын

@@tnaxpw Jeff is a good buddy of mine!

@The_Benjamins

5 жыл бұрын

:^)

@dogeyes7261

5 жыл бұрын

:^J

@CraftComputing

5 жыл бұрын

(\/) ;,,; (\/)

Thanks for the great info. Video quality and presentation are very good. Keep up the great work! I hope I will dare one day to make a clean win10 image as per your instructions.

Freaking awesome! !!! Great video! !! You earned my sub. Keep up the great work.

Everytime you skip 10 seconds the beer goes down abit. Great video

@mikkelbreiler3846

4 жыл бұрын

Every time I skip 10 seconds my fridge still has no beer.

The SFP+ connector (or QSFP, QSFP28 or whatever) isn't made for regular connect/disconnect cycles. They wear out relatively fast (typically rated for 250 cycles for SFP+ and only 50 for QSFP28). If you plan to have a lot of connect/disconnect cycles, it is better to install a SFP+ module and keep it installed and connect/disconnect the copper/glass cable instead. Edit: I wrote 50 cycles for SFP+, but that was the number for QSFP28. QSFP28 is used for 100GbE.

I love it man! Thank you very much for your time.

Excellent, clear, and concise video. Thank you!

Latvian router review should be topped with latvian beer. Or baltic porter, atleast.

@Tom-kh2vx

5 жыл бұрын

I just realized the pattern on the box and gave it a quick Google search to confirm my thought. Latvia for the win :)

@zoravar.k7904

5 жыл бұрын

Needs some Valmiermuiža!

@Tom-kh2vx

5 жыл бұрын

@@zoravar.k7904 unfiltered one

@alvallac2171

5 жыл бұрын

*at least

Flash back to when I spent $110 for a 5 port 10-base-T Hub...

I've been using mikrotik routers since 2008. Good to see they are getting more coverage now and thank you for the info of this new product. I didn't know this CRS model exists before...

@movax20h

5 жыл бұрын

Mikrotik routers are pretty popular in Europe for more than 10 years. The price is good, and configurability / management features are pretty cool and professional. Some of their earlier routers didn't have as good performance as other big brands, but in many cases it doesn't matter. They only entered switch market recently. Most of their switches are still actually routers.

Nice find on the Mikrotik. About 10 years ago (still working for the same company.) they had a MIkrotik router. Well the x86 via ide to compact flash card. During that time we hired another tech who came from a wisp (wireless isp) who also used them. He taught me all the simple stuff on it. I already loved it for how clean it was when you first start the config on a new box. The last place I know of who is using it the same area is a fiber service to businesses to convert the 1gb fiber to Ethernet. I know a few other places have to be using them because once in a while I see a new actual Mikrotik router box show up at the thrift store. I"m sure the same thing happens in other areas. (same happens to cisco.) Some IT person installs the device into a business and they have a buddy come over to say do a port forward. They can't figure out the box and thus though in a cheap store bought router. Thus, the box ends up a thrift store. Anyway enough down memory lane. Once again. Nice find on the 10gbit box.

can you test the 10g port to 1g port data transfer？simply connect a 1g eth to the tranceiver

@danielb7390

5 жыл бұрын

That would be useful. I saw some reports complaining about the throughout in this situation.

@MrIlovesubaru

5 жыл бұрын

@@danielb7390 I use a CRS317 (big brother of this switch), and tried using 1G to the S+RJ10 transceiver before. Throughput was ok (get ~120MB/s copy speed) but the switch shows a lot of "Rx Pauses" under the error page. There is no actual pause that I encounter. Pings are sub-milliseconds. I guess those RX pauses are due to the speed difference between 1G and 10G. But once I hook it up to a 10G Intel x540, no more errors, no more pauses.

@unclewho

5 жыл бұрын

Ken Choo the problem is actually from s+rj10 to Ethernet port, do you notice the transfer speed is choked?

@MrIlovesubaru

5 жыл бұрын

@@unclewho Nope. S+RJ10 to Dell R620 onboard 1G NIC (before I purchased the 10G daughterboard). I believe that daughter board is based on broadcom chips. Transfers at full speed. Haven't tried S+RJ10 to another 1G switch. Oh, and also note my other comment about the transceiver not supporting jumbo frames. Maybe that is the issue you are talking about? forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=132246

@unclewho

5 жыл бұрын

Ken Choo what I'm facing is transfering data from 10g to 1g on the same mikrotik switch. and i didn't enable jumbo packets anywhere in my setup, i notice the 2nd response in your thread mentioned the problem I'm talking about

Sounds great, until you actually try to order one: I finally canceled mine a month after the order was placed and no response from their sales department.

You should of at least gave a link to Linus's channel with how often you said his name and knocked fun at him. lol!! I use to watch the Linus videos a long long time ago. For some reason I don't find his content as useful as I got older. Less interest in some ridiculous PC gaming setup, and more interested in real world "get er done" good and cheap. I think this is why I like your video. Straight and to the point. Thanks!

Greatest 10g Video so far. Great.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but did you really called that Mikrotik unmanaged??? Because it's managed.

@daltonschrader8328

5 жыл бұрын

its managed and you can choose between switch OS and Router OS

@eW0LF

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, I know. And that's why I wrote that comment. I can't belive that someone is making a guide/review of product without even reading product specs.

@paddydoestech

5 жыл бұрын

And he quotes Linus' method way to vaguely, it's infiniband, not just a 10gb link which is what he is doing

@CraftComputing

5 жыл бұрын

Linus' first video (4x network speed) used Infiniband. His second was 10x, using 10GbE.

@paddydoestech

5 жыл бұрын

@@CraftComputing Touche, my bad for jumping conclusions, was very good video

@3:10 HAHAAH!!! Linus tech tip video. (his office is approx 15 min from my house) @Linus Media Group

Great video! It's been years since I am waiting for this. The only reasonably priced switches were some extremely loud and power-hungry ones from Quanta. I could not get them for my office as the noise is not a tradeoff that I find acceptable for the occasional performance increase when doing larger transfers. I used a dual SFP+ nic on the storage, then single SFP+ on my workstations.

0:45 My DUUUUUUUDDDEEEE XXXDDDD you never do disappoint do ya my guy much luv and appreciation keep on keeping on sir

You gained a sub just for trolling Linus...& I actually like Linus! 😂

*drops cable* ehi this is a linus tech tips video. insta subscribed.

Thanks for the excellent video. You answered so many questions I had about the Connectx-2 PCIe SFP+ Cards that I have and what kinds of cables I need. Much appreciated.

You know, this would actually be really helpful in my home network. I might look into doing this.

8 downvoters just bought enterprise level 10GbE switches for their home network

@djangoryffel5135

5 жыл бұрын

So did I, and it's just nice to look at it.

@paulvenn4447

5 жыл бұрын

My HP2920 gives 0 shits

@DangoNetwork

5 жыл бұрын

Un-managed is the reason I never look for those consumer switches for home network. VLan is a must for me if the server is public facing and multiple device access to it. I cant imagine to poke a hole in the fire wall without VLan for the entire home network.

This is the roast video of Linus. Lmao. 🤣🤣

Thanks for your video! I will start my upgraded chime network with this switch!

Great video with good information. I will be adding a 10 gig to my home network.

Drinking game... every time he mentions Linus or LTT... Take a drink...

when all of the tech channel knew linus,.... -craft computing joins the conversation

Great video! It was very informative. Between this and the LTT video I think I understand practical use cases for 10Gb now. Can’t wait to setup a high speed server...

Loved the video! I really enjoy your content!

So I have cat 7 already ran in the house so cost effective goes to the rj45 adapter here

@Renderman-Official

5 жыл бұрын

Yep in that case it sure would! How many ports would you need?

@wagdbikerider

5 жыл бұрын

@@Renderman-Official I have 7 runs to wall plugs and one gig eth in for the switch.

@mark22732

5 жыл бұрын

"cat 7"

@maik00979

5 жыл бұрын

@@mark22732 Yes Cat 7 it is ISO/IEC 11801 certified. It is just not recogniced by the EIA/TIA. It has been the standard for new installations in my country for a long time now. I dont understand why cat. 5e is still the norm in the US.

$110 is definitely cheaper than other solutions, but I wouldn't necessarily call it "affordable" (especially considering other costs involved.) It is definitely feasible now for enthusiast consumers / pro-sumers though, which is cool. Also, you said you could only do 10 gigabit on Cat 6 up to "25 or 30 feet"...but the official rating for Cat 6 is that it can do 10 gigabit in "typical worst case scenarios" up to 37 meters (120 feet) and up to 55 meters (180 feet) in ideal/low crosstalk scenarios. I could be wrong, but a few short cable runs at home are probably closer to the "ideal" scenario than to worst case in terms of crosstalk. Considering all of that, I'd be more interested in this switch if it used RJ-45.

@CraftComputing

5 жыл бұрын

I'd call $200 pretty affordable, as the users who would benefit from 10Gb in the past have been stuck at a $1000 wall for a 4-port 10Gb switch, and they were rarely fanless. Yes, the official spec for CAT6 @10G is 37M, but it also depends heavily on the termination of the cable. But like I said, the cost of most 10G RJ45 gear is still out of reach.

@TefenCa

5 жыл бұрын

Craft Computing What about the cost of an enthusiasts HEDT or Xeon level motherboard+CPU to support the extra PCI-E lanes for the PCI-E SSD & PCI-E 10 Gbps Network card?

@JesterMcPants

5 жыл бұрын

@@TefenCaPCH PCIe lanes

@o0Enmity0o

5 жыл бұрын

IEEE 802.3an-2006 (updated 2017). For a structured cable install to be classified Cat6 it needs to be tested to 10G @55m and for Cat6a 10G@100m. Manufactured cables need to meet these requirements to be sold as cat6 or cat6a. Otherwise an excellent vlog, think I will continue waiting until 8 port copper switches become better value.

@jgould30

5 жыл бұрын

I still much prefer sfp+ and infiniband. Cheaper, power efficient, lower latency.

Nice piece, man! Really interesting and informative!

Amazing cute little switch

Pick up an old 24 port Quanta LB6M for $300 or less. What the heck are you going to do with 4 ports?

@YamilLlanos

5 жыл бұрын

For home usage? how many devices in a home will actually support/need more than 4x10Gbe speeds?

@alexatkin

5 жыл бұрын

@@YamilLlanos I think the point is for home use, people usually want as few devices as possible so this can be limiting.

You can actually run 10gbit over CAT5E. There's a guy on youtube who did that. Look it up!

@CraftComputing

5 жыл бұрын

It's not officially supported, and when I comes to networking, I won't recommend it!

@llynellyn

5 жыл бұрын

@@CraftComputing Yes and no, 10gbit is certified/supported on Cat5e up to 45m, however this only applies to the structured cabling not patch leads which have no official certification/support. This of course means that if you have a building wired for Cat5e and the cable runs are within distance you can just use the existing wiring combined with Cat 6a or 7 patch leads to connect you 10g equipment and save a truckload.

@alvallac2171

5 жыл бұрын

@@CraftComputing *when it comes

@bob-ii8oe

5 жыл бұрын

you can do it but your cable has to be short .the longer the run the better the cable has to be

@Ronaldo-nj9pi

5 жыл бұрын

I believe it is supported up to 45 meters, it can be done. Cat5e: Gigabit Ethernet up to 100 meters 10 Gigabit Ethernet up to 45 meters Cat6: Gigabit Ethernet up to 100 meters 10 Gigabit Ethernet up to 55 meters Cat6a: Gigabit Ethernet up to 100 meters 10 Gigabit Ethernet up to 100 meters I have also seen this in some Enterprise networks using CAT5e to run to IDF closets for uplinks, They were about 20 meters apart. It would probably be fine at home with use of a high quality CAT5e Cable. However, its not much more expensive to go CAT6, only use CAT5e in a pinch, it keeps from collisions on the wire and other network errors. However, CAT5e *should* be fine up to 45 meters.

Thanks for making this video. I've been looking into 10 gigabit for a few years now. I've been looking into the 10 gigabit fiber technology. For in home, the OM-3 cables are fine because they give 10 gigabit at any distance that a person would need, however the OM-4 cables do give 10 gigabit speeds at I think about 500 meters along with 100 gigabit capable speeds within the shorter distances within a home.

You post such good videos I forget you don't even have 100k subs, you should have a lot more.

360p gang! Will be back in a few min when this has processed lol

@jhanTheman

5 жыл бұрын

😂

Cat5e is plenty capable of connecting at 10 Gigabit and cat5e will work just fine in almost any 10 gig home network solution. If the cat5e structured cabling is already in place it will very likely work just fine.

Seen some of your videos before but this is the one that made me sub...and also got me thinking about the cost of running multimode fibre throughout a house...

Great video! It's on my wish list.