The most important thing to take note of in this video is the effective use of mustaches by the crew.

these pilots are freakin rock stars

@jpsearching

3 жыл бұрын

Totally disagree. Look at the copilot. No care for his job or the lives below him. It's just a photo opportunity. Pathetic

@KC_FlightChief

3 жыл бұрын

Those pilots are actually pilots, I did some background on the video and neither pilot are in any sort of Rockband.

@jsarkozy

3 жыл бұрын

@@KC_FlightChief well then...there you have it

@karann4335

3 жыл бұрын

@@jpsearching yeah bc captian is flying ? plus his cap allowed him to take photo

@M_Alistair

3 жыл бұрын

@@jpsearching they prolly need that photo at debrief, who knows?

Me looking at the thumbnail: "Why does that firetruck have an altitude indicator?"

@sayidinamaliquealaqsha8270

3 жыл бұрын

sama anjim

@crispyrainbow

3 жыл бұрын

Why is that fire truck 200ft in the air?!?

@K2KOfcoursegg

3 жыл бұрын

@@sayidinamaliquealaqsha8270 emang dia ngerti lo ngomong bahasa kita?

@sayidinamaliquealaqsha8270

3 жыл бұрын

@@K2KOfcoursegg ngertiin aja

@K2KOfcoursegg

3 жыл бұрын

@@sayidinamaliquealaqsha8270 makanya kalo belajar inggris jangan kabur kelas

That's some genuine, red blooded, hot rod, piloting shit right there. Noble work fellows.

I wish the video was longer could sit here and watch countless drops love it

When you were denied in the military but still want to do close air support.

@maxwellclark6992

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of these guys are former Military aviators, some of them used to be fighter guys, they are good at nap-of-the earth flying and following ridge lines

@7invader

3 жыл бұрын

@øranuto husband how is that soy boy you pepega?? Only clowns go to the middle east thinking they fight for freedom or some shit

@CAL1MBO

3 жыл бұрын

@@7invader soy consoomer

@CAL1MBO

3 жыл бұрын

@6 6 "I'm god" Yep that's enough I think

@Soldier4USA2005

3 жыл бұрын

@6 6 Obvious troll is obvious.

That's awesome! Would you be okay with me featuring this in my series Weekly Dose of Aviation? Of course you will be credited both in the video and in the description.

@MOMAZOSPATO

10 ай бұрын

Hey

@Chorizo727

5 ай бұрын

No

Lmao at the copilot filming it on his phone.

@cantfeelthis3288

3 жыл бұрын

Haha thought the same. But he’s just the co-pilot doesn’t have much to do when in flight. Also great material for the next family reunion haha

@leonjones12

3 жыл бұрын

@@cantfeelthis3288 That's really not true at all. You think co-pilots just do walkarounds?

@cantfeelthis3288

3 жыл бұрын

leonjones12 no but in flight they don’t do much. They handle the radio which isn’t necessary over fire or not as much. Even if it was that’s not bad and still gives you time to be on your phone to film something like this

@richosthoff7212

3 жыл бұрын

The guy filming is the flight engineer.

@franckcagnes6370

3 жыл бұрын

@@cantfeelthis3288 not true, copilots do a lot, they have to make the job easier for the captain so he can think clear about the flight and potential issues. By the way filming an approach with your phone is forbiden in commercial flights but some pilots do it (like me lol)

1:00 - DAMN! That banking sight is *phew* awesome.

Dang good pilot, jockeying that jet around like it’s a Mooney.

@rstanaford

3 жыл бұрын

Right, like how he yanked the yoke left to roll wings level. I saw that too. Epic.

@noel12397

3 жыл бұрын

True!

@thev4guy237

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/dqtk2btvg8qtYto.html

@rstanaford

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome. I love stuff like this. If I had my pilot's license, this is what I would do. That or serve people in some other way, like Angel Flight.

@haydengalloway5177

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah the way he turned slightly right. Then flew in a straight line. And then he reached his hand down, and expertly pressed the button to drop the water. You can tell they are real pros lol. They deserve medals for pushing that button.

Nice to see the that the BAE146 are still being flown and used!

@larryhawkins8311

Ай бұрын

Yep, my son flies them for Neptune!

1:06 That bank angle, though

@FlightData101

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe 30 degrees, not exactly doing aerobatics.

@adrianwapcaplet2773

3 жыл бұрын

@@FlightData101 Just over 30 degrees, which is the norm for loaded firefighting aircraft. They can bank up to 40 degrees with caution from the lead plane.

@codyking4848

2 ай бұрын

@@FlightData101 Far more than you've ever done, armchair pilot.

0:45 Sound of increasing power of the engines. God damn!

me and the bois cleaning up the gender reveal party

Great video - Also, thanks to the pilots for all that you do.

@louskunt9798

2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome 👍

"Pull up! "Terrain, Terrain"

I expected to see a drastic change in attitude when they dropped, but couldn’t see much change. Was wondering too, guessing fires like this are restricted areas, and ATC has to clear them to (I heard him say “on approach” when nearing the blaze, I think) the actual fire area? Because otherwise you’d never see another plane coming at you opposite with no visibility. Very cool piloting.

@chesterwang3070

3 жыл бұрын

shader26 attitude or altitude? They are two different things.

@shader26

3 жыл бұрын

@@chesterwang3070 attitude. I’m a student pilot, so I do know the difference. Guessing there would be altitude changes too, but was most interested in what it does to the attitude suddenly losing that weight which is affecting the center of gravity, thus attitude.

@fishon7301

3 жыл бұрын

Shader26 Yes, you would normally on a smaller plane see the pilot aggressively push forward to prevent a large pitch up as the retardant is released. This looks like a much larger plane, and I'm sure the pilot felt it, but the video just doesn't capture the dramatic reaction as you expected to see. Regarding TFR,s these are Temporary Flight Restrictions put up by the FAA in response to this firefighinng flight activity. The FAA works with whomever the agency is, who is in control of the fire fight. Might be Bureau of Land Management (Dept of Interior), or the State Firefighing folks. Might by USDA if it's a National Forest. They all seem to have a hand in these fires. You as a pilot are supposed to get that information from NOTAM's before you fly. You might also get them from the Flight Service Stations when you get your briefing prior to flight. This page has some good information about them. Point is, if there's a fire and it's being faught, you can bet there's at least as 5 mile perimeter that you are supposed to remain clear of. They typically go up to 5,000 AGL or more. And yes, there's someone on the ground directing the tankers into the location to drop. You can hear him ask, "does this look good?". He's talking tot he guys on the ground. disciplesofflight.com/tfrs-flying-in-fire-season/ Fly Safe. Former T-38 IP, Beech King Air IP, C-130 Aircraft Commander.

@chesterwang3070

3 жыл бұрын

​@@shader26 Ok, you probably know much more than me, I'm too young to even fly a glider lol.

@FluppiLP

3 жыл бұрын

@@shader26 This should be happening in airspace G though, right? I don't really know the US airspace structure but I'd guess it's airspace G. I wonder now if they do the whole flight VFR or if they cancel IFR and pick it up again later. Maybe there are special procedures in place I don't know of? The "on approach" might be a warning for the firefighters just as a last check with the guys on ground to make sure no one is standing in the danger area.

So cool to see these old Avros being used to fight fires. You guys work in Utah any? I've seen some orange and white avros flying around as of late. Cool stuff.

@ov10bronco9

Жыл бұрын

thought is was an avro!

That is the sickest office I've ever seen

BAE-146s going to good use. One of my fav aircraft!

Is this the legend that handles a 737 like if it was a fighter plane and takes out the fire?

@oscarkastor7718

3 жыл бұрын

avro*

@Alexandre-ul7oy

3 жыл бұрын

not a 737 this one has 4 engines.

@sixpackpilot

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, Avro RJ-85 or BAe 146-200s, as the earlier models are known. The sound and the 2x2 rows of engine instruments for the 4 engines are unmistakable.

@stockerXRX

3 жыл бұрын

that's not a 737 it's a bae 146

@safetyinstructor

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, only this is a BAE 146

Its a beatiful Avro RJ! So called Jumbolino

@The-Cat

3 жыл бұрын

nicknamed your sister that way, she loves it. Jumbolino Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ❤️️

@adrianwapcaplet2773

3 жыл бұрын

It appears to be a Bae-146, a version that preceded the Avro RJ.

You blokes are AWESOME !!!!!! Australia NSW RFS firefighter 👩‍🚒

There are those that can...and those that comment on KZread.

Piloting the mini 4-jet must be a thrill... Like being a airforce bomber pilot but close up to your target...

That's a first view at that angle for me. Epic.

Great to see an RJ100 still earning it's keep :)

@patt6246

3 ай бұрын

Definitely a 146, no FADEC, so not a RJ.

I love how there's no explanation of where this is. Looks like California but really who would want to know?

@waynemichaud5143

3 жыл бұрын

He says "This is Cal Fire Bird". Pretty good indication.

@unfazedmonkey874

3 жыл бұрын

@minphox its definitely not 2019

Man....Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 absolutely crushed it.

Awesome perspective! May I feature this low pass in one of my next episodes? Of course with a link back to your original video. Cheers!

Great aviation skills. Balls to the walls on that climb out. 👍🏼

Captain: Hold my beer

I didn't looked for this video but I still watched it

How much do they get paid? are they once was a "normal" pilot? or specially train only as firefighter pilot?

@1Gaumer

3 жыл бұрын

Enough - not as much as some mainline guys but probably as much as the more senior regional guys. Just about everybody comes from a “normal pilot” background.

@HyouMix

3 жыл бұрын

@@1Gaumer Thanks for the info!

I can't say I have ever seen a jumbo jet used as a bush plane. Amazing job!

@safetyinstructor

3 жыл бұрын

This is not a jumbo. It's the BAE 146 "baby jumbo"

When you are zonked out doing daily commercial flights for an airliner, life is good but....

sheesh that must be a weird feeling flying directly into a fucking mountain like that

I love the Bae 146!

i wonder what the passengers were thinking

judging by the jet engine sound and there being 4 engine gauges they are in a BAE 146 firebomber

Coolest job possible.

RJ85. Nice aircraft

This is fucking awesome

Some really good aerial views of Portland.

do you have gpws off from the circuit breakers?

Hands on throttle controls at all times fellas

@Riddim_Squid

3 жыл бұрын

no thats only for takeoff and landing -

@shanelawrence221

3 жыл бұрын

This isn't a video game😂

@calvinnickel9995

11 ай бұрын

This isn’t a Cessna 172.

....that looks like an avro rj cockpit.....i had n idea they had any of those set up as tankers

great video what asked the person who shot video if it's possible two video the tank delivery system if that's not classified?.

BANK ANGLE

I like these graphics. Kinda looks like Battlefield 5

what date, fire, aircraft type? Thanks

@mpk6664

3 жыл бұрын

It's likely a DC-10, not sure the date or fire.

@patriotsfan1236

3 жыл бұрын

@@mpk6664 not a dc-10

@solomonkaihe

3 жыл бұрын

Cockpit looks like a 747

@patriotsfan1236

3 жыл бұрын

@@solomonkaihe bae 146.....

@mpk6664

3 жыл бұрын

@@patriotsfan1236 NO NEED TO BE A DOUCHE BAG LOL

The new Flight Sim DLC is looking lit.

You are hero’s... bottom line . God bless you

How effective is aerial firefighting? Biggest benefit is dropping into remote areas?

@yourlocalnoob29

3 жыл бұрын

TexasGTO It is very effective. Using on-ground firefighters to fight larger wildfires like these are incredibly dangerous and it takes a long time to defeat it. However, using aerial firefighting is much more efficient and it is easier to reach more remote areas like you said. However, it does take a while to load the planes with fire retardant then for them to fly there, on-ground firefighters have a much faster response time. Aerial firefighting is mostly used for larger and more deadlier fires (take, for example, the wildfires on the West Coast of the US).

Tried to simulate this in MS2020 today. it was good except for: WHOOP WHOOP TERRAI TERRAIN. BANK ANGLE BANK ANGLE, PULL UP PULL UP, DONT SINK DONT SINK, PULL UP PULL UP, WHOOP WHOOP

do they do ride-alongs?

@jmullentech

3 жыл бұрын

Never heard of an agency offering one, likely due to insurance/liability reasons. This looks like it was shot by the flight engineer. ETA: Slight tangent but if you wanna try to fly with a life flight team, that's allowed in a lot of places. If you really just wanna get off the ground doing something different, might be worth looking into ;)

@FlightData101

3 жыл бұрын

John Mullen There’s no flight engineer on the BAE146, it was someone sitting in the jumpseat.

@BigV424

3 жыл бұрын

@@FlightData101 What's their job?

@FlightData101

3 жыл бұрын

BigV424 Probably a training or standards pilot who works for the operator (Neptune). A “ride-along” would be considered a passenger and they are not permitted because tankers aren’t certified for carriage of passengers.

@BigV424

3 жыл бұрын

@@FlightData101 Thanks for taking the time to respond, I really appreciate it. It truly fascinates me the job and effectiveness of the firefighters in the skies. I was always very interested in seeing them do their job and wondered how I can be up there with them before dedicating my life to being a pilot and working with the firefighters. If it was possible I would jump at that opportunity in a heartbeat.

Great Job! Thanks too You all out there!!

These guys are heroes

Huge huge balls on all of these pilots

Closest thing we'll get to a strafing run

they are real heroes

Well I suppose the positive thought to this is that when all the trees are burnt down, we can use these planes to drop beer at festivals....

God damn fucking heroes

Do yourself a favor and watch this whilst Fortunate Son is playing.

Do the rain dance like the indian tribes do. 😁

This is amazing. Thank you!!😂

Dream job, and i cant even fly

The panel looks like a MD-80. Not saying that’s what it is, just looks like it

@general9212

3 жыл бұрын

its problaly an avro rj100

@nmnmnm35

3 жыл бұрын

@@general9212 correct!

@heyitsvos

3 жыл бұрын

4 sets engine gauges I think

@gregpaul36

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I worked MD-88s and that is the same looking engine display panel just two of them...

are they flying IFR or VFR?

Flying School Complete!

Heroes!

On the bigger fires why don't they fly two or three jets like these side by side instead.....imagine how much more area they cover at one pass.

@KB4QAA

3 жыл бұрын

1. Safety. 2. Then that leaves a long gap before the next drop. By spacing them, out they can react faster to changes in the fire direction and keep it knocked down.

@agustinhidalgo405

3 жыл бұрын

@@KB4QAA Ohhhh....

Look like a post apocalyptic scene from a film.

Why is the copilot playing with his phone... clear violation of the sterile cockpit rules.

Real heroes

All the problems with DC-10's and these pilots still fly them like its a fuckin F-16 with that 45 degree bank.

@safetyinstructor

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, only this a BAE 146

What a cool job

What plane is that?

I wonder how does the aircraft react when its all of a sudden loses a ton of weight. probably not by much

@beanie5851

3 жыл бұрын

Fairly strongly I'm sure but they control how exactly it gets released so it doesn't throw the plane off balance. There's a famous video of a 747 crashing because of weight shifting internally so it definitely can cause a crash if you don't control it.

@serg2963

3 жыл бұрын

There’s no shift at all on these (BAe146)... the load is centered on the CG of the aircraft. When the load goes, (even in as little as 6 seconds when we set the system to do so), all we get is a mild pitch up from the decreasing weight. Mild enough that we don’t need to trim for it really.

@aboversite

3 жыл бұрын

It was an issue with older aircraft like the Douglas A26. The nose would pitch up strongly and the pilot had to be ready for it.

@NavidIsANoob

3 жыл бұрын

@@serg2963 Do you feel turbulence from the hot air when you pass over the forest fires so closely?

@serg2963

3 жыл бұрын

NavidIsANoob Yes, sometimes it gets really bumpy.

The most dangerous and most fun job in the world .

@texasrush0407

3 жыл бұрын

most dangerous? that is an extremely inaccurate statement

@scronk4486

3 жыл бұрын

@@texasrush0407 what would you consider a dangerous job then?

Wow...that was danger close...

Interesting how the co-pilot, during a low-level high risk drop over mountainous terrain at dusk, takes the opportunity for a quick cell-phone video. ;-)

@jeTROGIBBS

2 жыл бұрын

Thinking the same, no bueno

@ov10bronco9

Жыл бұрын

Interesting how that was filmed in the jumpseat, not the copilots seat. You can see at 0:45 a view of the copilot and pilot

@k9er233

Жыл бұрын

@@ov10bronco9 You are absolutely correct. Well spotted, and thanks for the update. You must be one of our brave aerial firefighters? Much respect to all of the folks who risk it all to keep us ground-pounders safe. 😁👍

@ov10bronco9

Жыл бұрын

@@k9er233 nope, just want to be one

@calvinnickel9995

11 ай бұрын

@ov10bronco9 At 0:15 after for the entire time the copilot is in the frame possibly until the drop the copilot has a cellphone up taking video or photos. On final for a drop _at dusk_ is NOT the time to have your phone out. Who’s monitoring the target altitude? Who’s calling out airspeed deviations? Who’s watching for snags just in case capt gets target fixation? Screw that. I’d hold the load until he put it away. RTB for a debrief if it happened again. Stick a go pro on if you want to be an influencer.

Seems like this was done on the 74?

@airbus_3209

3 жыл бұрын

No, the Avro BAr 146

What plane is it ? From the cockpit it kinda looks like an md80 or maybe an avro

@alanradecki8903

3 жыл бұрын

Tanker 12, BAe-146

@Riddim_Squid

3 жыл бұрын

rj100

CCRP would help a lot here.

love these guys up there

What aircraft was that?

@NateH8_05

3 жыл бұрын

Or a RJ100 if its not a DC-10

@safetyinstructor

3 жыл бұрын

Probably a BAE 146

@serg2963

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely a BAE 146

Do you guys turn off the A/C packs on the run-in?

@serg2963

2 жыл бұрын

No.

Are the pilots in control of the drop or someone else?

@_chipchip

3 жыл бұрын

They have a dog in the back that's been trained to paw a button when the pilots yell "WHO WANTS A BIG BOY DUMP" and if the dog hits the button on time there's a treat dispenser in the plane as well. In all seriousness, it can be pilot operated, there's usually an additional button on the yoke. If he can't do it the tank engineer can from his panel on command.

@fishon7301

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, somebody on the ground is directing the plane to the location to drop.

DREAM JOB

this is neat af

True heroes

How hard are these maneuvours on the plane? You aren't using a-10 warthogs for this.

inb4 Lucaas puts this in WDA

Is this a DC-10 air tanker?

@matheusromano171

3 жыл бұрын

No, this plane has four engines. But I don't what which plane is

@1Gaumer

3 жыл бұрын

@@matheusromano171 BAe-146-200

@morningstarkid07

3 жыл бұрын

@@1Gaumer Bingo. Cockpit matches up. Good eye. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oXxllrKTqNrLqbA.html

Very cool video.

what type of plane is that?

@santiamato4005

3 жыл бұрын

BAe 146

Indeed an awesome video and job by those pilots, but it’s actually a no-go that the copilot was also filming during that situation.

@mrbrianbrush

4 жыл бұрын

The other pilot was no in charge of the plane, shouldn't be a big deal. On most airlines the monitoring pilot will read books or play suduko

@MikeFoxtrot87

4 жыл бұрын

mrbrianbrush While one of the two pilots is „pilot flying“ the other one is always „pilot monitoring“. What you described can be done in an airliner cockpit while being at crusinglevel.

@MikeFoxtrot87

3 жыл бұрын

9000 RPM Maybe I can say, because I work in the aviation branch and therefore know what their regulations state.

@kevwar99

3 жыл бұрын

@@MikeFoxtrot87 what no, thats not possible for an actual expert to exist in the youtube comments

@omen828

3 жыл бұрын

@@MikeFoxtrot87 "branch"? What, like a tree?

Anybody wish they had a bomb bay door cam??

Should be automated but looks fun

@1Gaumer

3 жыл бұрын

wut?