Adventure Time's Princess Bubblegum Problem

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Now the character of Princess Bubblegum from Adventure Time has been a hot topic for many people. A lot of people hate her and call her evil and others defend her, but I think its emblematic of a larger problem with the series. Princess Bubblegum eventually grows many bad character flaws like a meaner attitude and practical god complex, and does multiple horrible actions, but the show never actually calls her out on her bad behavior or actions and she basically gets no consequences from it. So the character can't actually grow, unlike every other character who has big character journeys and arcs where they become better people. And it becomes such a reoccuring thing in the series that it becomes a genuine problem which I don't think enough people have actually addressed. So I want to go really into it here and pick apart Princess Bubblegum's negative characterization and how the show doesn't really do anything about it.
I also wanna say, I don't want to make this type of video the norm. I literally made this channel to defend a movie I loved. I don't like being cynical in my videos and I do not plan to make many other videos like this. But this is a very hot topic right now and I want to give my own insight and hopefully further the conversation.
Hope you enjoy and please don't kill me.
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  • @oshkeet
    @oshkeet7 ай бұрын

    It's interesting we hear a comment about immortal beings living so long they can lose their moral center early in the show. It's about Marceline, trying to explain why she can be so mean in the early episodes, but i never thought how the same could apply to Bubblegum.

  • @LetsGo-LoveYourself

    @LetsGo-LoveYourself

    7 ай бұрын

    Blacks have never created or maintained an advanced civilization in human history. Facts.

  • @shadowsfromolliesgraveyard6577

    @shadowsfromolliesgraveyard6577

    7 ай бұрын

    PB does seem to have aged very slowly over time & she doesn't expect to live forever Plus her immorality seems to be there from early on, so it's hard to attribute to immortality

  • @fist-of-doom487

    @fist-of-doom487

    7 ай бұрын

    Marceline and PB grew up in extremely dark times were Morality was basically nonexistent. You can tell they carried that with them from how they both act but Marcy is a little nicer because she had Simon to give her a direction. However PB was basically by herself. She took care of Neddy, she learned about the world around her and the humans rapidly going extinct thanks to both Vampires and Rainicorns. She wanted a family and something to protect and made her own family but they were just as directionless as her and tried to betray her. So she eventually makes the Candy Kingdom to create a large family she can both protect and control and brought peace to the world around her at the same time. That always been her goal, peace and community. She may have a tyrant streak but everything she does is to bring peace and to her peace is made through control.

  • @landy4497

    @landy4497

    7 ай бұрын

    marceline's problem is actually addressed in obsidian and mainly derives from how she thought her mom had abandoned her because she saw her as a monster: her psychology can be clearly understood in a flashback, in which marcy's in the bunker with her imaginary friends and she comes to the (deluded) conclusion that people don't run away from her because she's a monster, but because she WANTS them to. needless to say this way of thinking eventually leads to her punk nature and rudeness

  • @craonbox

    @craonbox

    7 ай бұрын

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  • @wakkaseta8351
    @wakkaseta83517 ай бұрын

    The character derailment on things like her stance on magic are one thing, but frankly, Bubblegum being an autocratic nationalist makes perfect sense. Pretty much every other faction in Ooo has been shown to either be weak/incompetent (Slime Kingdom, Hot Dog Kingdom), just as much up their own asses (Wizard City, Breakfast Kingdom), or run by actually evil people (Bath Boy Gang, Flame Kingdom, Pup Kingdom, Mushroom War zombies via the Lich, ), on top of the treachary Bubblegum's experienced from anyone who's remotely her equal or better (Gumbald, Shoko, Goliad). Ooo is not a nice place to live in despite all the bright colors, and expecting someone to want to ally with a foreign kingdom, especially one that's historically openly evil, on the basis of "trust me bro", is frankly naive and stupid.

  • @cristophernunez7786

    @cristophernunez7786

    7 ай бұрын

    Those kingdoms survive because the Candy Kingdom always gets the worst of it. The Hot Dog kingdom wouldn't have much to do against a giant tree that summons more giants and spits lightning. Ooo entire disappears if the flame kingdom decides to use its weapons from the mushroom war. Even so, they are not supremacists, the flame kingdom saw plans to attack the Candy Kingdom just for being candy... Gumball's motto during the Gum War was literally "we are better" that is supremacism.

  • @SipMyCharlatte
    @SipMyCharlatte7 ай бұрын

    Uhhh did you forget that princess bubblegum made lemon grab in the first place? I absolutely blame her for everything with lemon grab. She created a mistake, and instead of taking the responsibility of managing that mistake, she gave it a kingdom and let it run wild to destroy itself and others.

  • @Hamantha
    @Hamantha7 ай бұрын

    8:01 Maybe the reason Finn’s DNA is inherently heroic is because of his status as the Comet’s reincarnation?

  • @brethnew

    @brethnew

    7 ай бұрын

    🤔never thought of that

  • @Hamantha

    @Hamantha

    7 ай бұрын

    @@brethnew just a thought 🤷‍♀️ I like to think this can defend bubblegum

  • @jaydenc367

    @jaydenc367

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Hamantha I think a better defense is how Finn and PB both have good and bad family members who well...they share DNA with.

  • @Hamantha

    @Hamantha

    7 ай бұрын

    @@jaydenc367 I don’t know if that’s necessarily applicable to PB

  • @jaydenc367

    @jaydenc367

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Hamantha You sure? Cuz Neddy seemed just fine.

  • @incertnamehere
    @incertnamehere7 ай бұрын

    I feel like considering how she grew up in the cannon of the show without any parental figures and having to take care of her brother especially considering that once she finally makes some more family they turn in her and she ends up mentally handicapping them in self defense not really seeing how messed up it is which leads to her mindset in the whole show being about controlling people and spying on them to make sure everyone’s safe even if they don’t like it. Also side note here it is actually stated that the Grass Lands is technically apart of the candy kingdom, the king of Ooo states so when he becomes the princess.

  • @zozo-pj8ei

    @zozo-pj8ei

    7 ай бұрын

    Shes a gay ICON she caNNOT be judged

  • @craonbox

    @craonbox

    7 ай бұрын

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  • @depufull

    @depufull

    7 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@zozo-pj8eiGays can also be in the wrong

  • @zozo-pj8ei

    @zozo-pj8ei

    7 ай бұрын

    @@depufull the LGBT+mafia is going to come for you for saying that

  • @angelmainaccount2507

    @angelmainaccount2507

    6 ай бұрын

    @@depufull No. as simple as that

  • @cofeespear4992
    @cofeespear49927 ай бұрын

    I always thought of her as someone who has good intentions but not always good ways to plan those intentions.

  • @craonbox

    @craonbox

    7 ай бұрын

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  • @justrandomstuff6828
    @justrandomstuff68287 ай бұрын

    To me it makes sense she gets a bit lost in her ego and morals, she's been alive for so long, she might gi through more phases than us, time kindda dulled her, when Marceline returned to her life and Finn started to respect her as a friend, she began to change again, it's surprising how love can change a person

  • @seeminglyindistressed3855
    @seeminglyindistressed38557 ай бұрын

    This video does address that princess bubblegum isn't really punished for her actions throughout the show and she does but it's too light of a consequence.princess bubble gum keeps doing her bad actions like at the of end of show it's just implied that she changed rather than seeing those genuine conclusions from her character.

  • @craonbox

    @craonbox

    7 ай бұрын

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  • @thejahniyadiaries1816
    @thejahniyadiaries18167 ай бұрын

    the fire kingdom incident was def completely wrong. little fire people died and that was honestly sad. pb’s morality was lost in this arc. she should’ve went about her paranoia in a diff way. i’m not gone bash her paranoia bc if they’re a direct threat, ima always keep my eye on them. but if they haven’t done anything to cross the relationship between the kingdoms, then pb should’ve played it cool. pretty sure the elementals are SUPPOSED TO COEXIST. they are all equally important.

  • @SullivanDLuffy
    @SullivanDLuffy7 ай бұрын

    i hate how people say rose quartz is like Princess Bubblegum. Rose is actually a good person she did bad things but she good

  • @Characters23-sx3ig

    @Characters23-sx3ig

    23 күн бұрын

    Same with PB.

  • @SullivanDLuffy

    @SullivanDLuffy

    23 күн бұрын

    @@Characters23-sx3ig Nah

  • @murakyo79
    @murakyo796 ай бұрын

    Finally someone says it. I mean, I love morally-gray characters and I do think PB is a very interesting one. But I think the main problem is that the writers still want to keep her as a friend and a likeable characters that the audience should root for, instead of what she actually is: A pragmatic dictator that is one of the best options for ruler in OOO whose origins explain her own flaws and actions. Like, they could have made Finn and Jake realise this and make them dislike her, but they're still allies because it's their best option. So the situation would be a "I'm with you because of logical and pragmatic reasons, but, if I could stop or change you, I would because I don't like you as a person since you're morally bad". That'd be more satisfying, in my opinion.

  • @StandyEmerson
    @StandyEmerson7 ай бұрын

    I'm surprised you didn't mention s7ep26 "The Thin Yellow Line" in detail of how all the banana guards live in fear of PB cuz they directly see her and her actions. Directly mentioning the rattleballs even. Which results in banana guards hiding stuff all the time. I think this counts as result of her seeing consequences of her own actions in a very long term passive way and shouldn't be skimmed over.

  • @taliamiller3381
    @taliamiller33817 ай бұрын

    She’s messed up but I love her. It’s boring when every character acts like a Boy Scout. I love the combination of her girlypop mannerisms and her cold analytical pull to power; it feels fresh. She’s also compelling because she’s not pure evil. She cares deeply for her people, to the point that she will trample their rights to protect them- it makes for a fascinating value system and a great contrast to the noble (but kinda dumb) Finn. The narrative clearly does not condone her actions, and she does grow over the course of the story. It just doesn’t beat the matter over the head because that would be dull and bog the story down. The moments where she casually does something really fucked up are some of my favorites. How can you not love that out-of-pocket line about ragdoll princess combined with Marceline’s horrified expression lmao

  • @mikeisfine
    @mikeisfine7 ай бұрын

    In the beginning I kept thinking about the Cooler episode and I'm glad you brought that one up! I couldn't help but feel like it did such a disservice to Flame Princess as a character as well. She left Finn over being hurt and lied too and then Finn has to grow from it in a pretty harsh way. PB on the other hand is not only deceitful, but down right malicious manipulating FP directly and killing some of her people in the process, all because she feels threatened when in reality the candy kingdom is the biggest threat of all and the flame kingdom has every right to feel secure as well. And yet not only do those actions go without any consequence, but they're actually rewarded by FP becoming closer friends with her. Like I don't even dislike Bubblegum as a character. I think her moral alignment makes her a much more intriguing character, especially when her conflict resolution skills are so detached, but that whole episode was whack

  • @nk6432
    @nk64327 ай бұрын

    i think that the scene from the season four finale is PB experimenting with the candy people she eventually sends to colonize space... Shes making sure they are adaptable enough to survive, and make society in space ie needing to be durable and somewhat intelligent (they are allready farming which is so cute :3)

  • @FrancisR420

    @FrancisR420

    7 ай бұрын

    Oh shit for real

  • @randomransoms5889
    @randomransoms58897 ай бұрын

    What I hate is that her behavior is excused. Completely ignored, while I can understand the character development NO ONE in the show actually hates her and that makes no sense to me.

  • @FrancisR420

    @FrancisR420

    7 ай бұрын

    She loses an election

  • @kikrinman1450

    @kikrinman1450

    6 ай бұрын

    Tree Trunks actually openly hates her.

  • @rae5425

    @rae5425

    6 ай бұрын

    It's not ignored. It's just that no one in Adventure Time can make her answer for what she does.

  • @user-kd9xw8rp3g
    @user-kd9xw8rp3g7 ай бұрын

    Simon - still best character in adventure time

  • @brethnew

    @brethnew

    7 ай бұрын

    I prefer Ice King, RIP

  • @tylerbertram7065

    @tylerbertram7065

    7 ай бұрын

    And Marcy

  • @LCBK
    @LCBK6 ай бұрын

    Since PB sabotaged and basically caused mass sickness to the flame kingdom, that should’ve caused a war, maybe a mini arc where Finn has to choose between FP’s and PB’s friend ships, also showing the extent she will go against the flame kingdom, then show her going all out against her uncle would show how much of a threat he is

  • @shadyblazeblizzard

    @shadyblazeblizzard

    6 ай бұрын

    I literally can't believed they purposely wrong that and decided to give her absolutely no consequences for it and if anything rewarded her for it. Like why would you bother to introduce a massive plot point that should have immense consequences for all the characters that should earn its own story and then just decide to do practically nothing with it.

  • @Retrovorious
    @Retrovorious7 ай бұрын

    37:50 Moral points do not go out the window. PB still gets points for apologizing even if Gumbald is treacherous.

  • @BarkusWolfinstein

    @BarkusWolfinstein

    7 ай бұрын

    Yes, and lets not forget that the only reason Gumbald was turned into a candy person is because he was trying to turn her into a candy person.

  • @shadyblazeblizzard

    @shadyblazeblizzard

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah I did give credit for that part but after that it pretty much relegated all the actual problems with "He deserved it anyway" which practically washes her hands of the moral questions brought up in the flashback and during the Gum War, and its pretty much never acknowledged or brought up after, though mostly because of the GOLB climax. It felt like she just kinda got an easy out for the actual problems and consequences.

  • @placeboobshere5458

    @placeboobshere5458

    7 ай бұрын

    Ok, but the story let's us know she would've apologized if gumbald didnt deserve it. I think it's more of a story problem than PB problem.

  • @craonbox

    @craonbox

    7 ай бұрын

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    @craonbox

    7 ай бұрын

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  • @thejahniyadiaries1816
    @thejahniyadiaries18167 ай бұрын

    i don’t think pb should’ve had those whole remorse better phases. every character shouldn’t have that kind of change in a series, that’s not how life is. some ppl are just like that and always will be. look how far her character took the story just like that. doing what’s pleasing to the audience, isnt always the best way to get a good story. you need those different dynamics to engage the audience and give them something to keep going on abt. they put her in the perfect light, she’s unlikeable yet reasonable to a fault. it’s one of those “hate hate hate butttt..” characters and i love it.

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    @craonbox

    7 ай бұрын

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  • @klamacz47

    @klamacz47

    6 ай бұрын

    Shes everything but reasonable lmao

  • @tanandalynch9441
    @tanandalynch94417 ай бұрын

    Tbf Goliad wasn't supposed to be evil initially she just took the lessons the wrong way and went on a power trip. She also giggled at something cute and Princess Cookie took it the wrong way and held a store hostage

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    @craonbox

    7 ай бұрын

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  • @nanopanda
    @nanopanda6 ай бұрын

    I've always hated pb past season 3 or so. I noticed she just...became cruel af and constantly paranoid about attacks on her kingdom by other equally or more powerful kingdoms. It's like she's insecure about her own authority because her folks are made to be docile. She feels inferior so she does what she can to insist that she's a threat

  • @noname-lb3sg
    @noname-lb3sg6 ай бұрын

    Why marcy daiting the woman who literally tortured her father figure and the savor of her life i seriously still can't understand that

  • @rhopumpkin9538

    @rhopumpkin9538

    4 ай бұрын

    Because Marcy and PB met before Pb met ice king

  • @rhopumpkin9538

    @rhopumpkin9538

    4 ай бұрын

    And tortured how??

  • @the1magageneral323
    @the1magageneral323Күн бұрын

    Bubblegum is a dictator. Plus the relationship with the Vampire Queen at the end was forced. I never saw couple in her, other than two friends who fell apart.

  • @tedtheblue
    @tedtheblue6 ай бұрын

    I think it was implied, not very well, that PB got that moral ambiguity the same way Marceline did, with all that time. Thing is Marceline was able to have a full arc while PB had to keep up the kingdom

  • @area52ron
    @area52ron6 ай бұрын

    I agree with what you said and I think there is a character who is worse handled than Princess Bubblegum Marinate from miraculous ladybug

  • @Sol_Invictus777
    @Sol_Invictus7777 ай бұрын

    also, to add to some of what you said. she created Lemon Grab in one of the episodes she legitimately erases their memories meaning the entire time they were having major issues with Lemon Grab she could have changed him or fixed him, but since she did not do that hundreds of Lemon people that Lemon grab made, suffered. she made the orphans idk if they had parents that died or whatever but in the first episode she shows she can bring back the dead candy people, so even then she could have given the orphans a better life by reviving the dead parents. also, there is the delinquent pup gang, which talks about how they have parents who neglected them ever since they were young, and they still crave the love they never got from their parents. PB made their parents meaning she designed them to neglect their kids.

  • @noremac7216
    @noremac72167 ай бұрын

    I know its controversial but I'm really glad she never faced dire consequences. It's very on track with Adventure Times habit of not pushing morality on the audience. Everybody has to grow and developing their own ways, the plot doesn't magically bend them over and spank them when they do bad. I think the turning point for bubble gum is when Flame Princess didn't destroy the world because Finn was able to drop down and save her. That's the point when she started easing up on a lot of her autocratic tendencies. But I would never want her to completely stop being our cute bubbly little immortal Godking Tyrant

  • @Nova-rd3hi
    @Nova-rd3hiАй бұрын

    Deadpool is morally grey, Jason Todd is morally grey, Joel Miller is morally grey, Kratos is morally grey, Princess Bubblegum is objectively evil. She's not morally grey, she's just evil.

  • @Characters23-sx3ig

    @Characters23-sx3ig

    23 күн бұрын

    Nope, she's morally grey alright, but I respect your opinion.

  • @cristophernunez7786
    @cristophernunez77867 ай бұрын

    With zombies the problem is that they are one fissure away from a zombie apocalypse, literally the candy kingdom was built by blocking the rivers that create them. She needs to know how to deal with those things and she also wants to know how they work. With magic she takes a similar position, she considers magic a science and magicians are just guys who repeat things, who no longer know how they work and in the world of adventure time it is like that. The king of Ooo was a simple scammer, who had already left Tree Trunks out on the street, taking away all his possessions. With what he earned by swindling her son, he prepared the trick to take over the candy kingdom, which he also embezzled. Even the wedding was a slavery contract... so the princess had a point. The thing about the sandbox is dark, very dark, since they are not even experiments, he has them in his bedroom, they are toys. Others have sandboxes where they draw mandalas to relax, she cut beings. They may not even be conscious beings, Bonnie creates her beings already programmed with basic knowledge, so they could be like little organic machines developing pre-programmed functions. Even if that were the case, we are talking about someone who relaxes by cutting and pasting people. And about the rag princess... You really didn't understand that she is a wounded lesbian, making jokes that sleeping with her ex-partner would be a serious lack of self-esteem??!!

  • @Octonori
    @Octonori7 ай бұрын

    I do like the IDEA of PB. I like the idea of a dictator eventually becoming good and swallowing their pride. It’s just so disappointing how Adventure Time executes PB’s character. Since we have so many great arcs…. I think PB had subconsciously know that doing the things she did was wrong but wouldn’t face the truth and would be “pssshhh…that’s normal for me. That’s who I am.” just to protect her own ego. She thinks she’s protecting her people (which I’m sure she does care for) but she’s really just protecting herself. And if PB ever realized that she wasn’t actually doing good to her people I think she’ll have to admit to not being fit to rule. Not to mention, Marceline DOES play a role in PB’s albeit bad arc. Marceline is pretty much the opposite of PB and I think Marcy helps PB come out of that shell a bit. We can see in Varmints that she does break down and feels like a failure, unfortunately this isn’t touched too much again in the future. I do really like this moment though because it really shows that in a way she secretly doesn’t feel worthy but wants to be admired by everyone. I definitely DO see POTENTIAL for redemption unlike the some others. But sometimes the creators wanted to be like “haha make fun of dictators” to “oh wait actually we forgor to develop her lmao” If Adventure Time was longer we definitely would’ve had a proper arc with her seeing as they had more ideas for PB’s family. I can only HOPE that PB gets her own special/arc or whatever in the future that helps redeem her more. In my own head cannon PB realizes she’s not worthy of ruling a kingdom and after the end of AT focuses on her life more than others. Anyway I don’t hate or love PB but definitely think she was handle wrong but that the story still has potential to fix her arc.

  • @shadyblazeblizzard

    @shadyblazeblizzard

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah that was the real problem I had in this video which is that they didn't actually commit to any arc with her, and they just decided to just keep making her do bad things with very little remorse, apology, or any growth. I don't know why they constantly added new things to make her a worse person but just never did anything to make her better from it. Like when Finn does bad things like in Frost and Fire, All the Little People, and Another Way he does learn what he did was bad, tried his best to make up for it, and grew as a person. But PB always seems exempt from this, with at most a bare minimum "You're a bad person" or "I'm sorry but the plot moves on immediatly" Also I did really like her character breakdown in Varmints which was one of the few times PB broke past her emotional fortitude and I would mention it but it didn't really contribute to the topic at hand as her breakdown was after she lost her kingdom and not much an introspection on herself.

  • @Octonori

    @Octonori

    7 ай бұрын

    @@shadyblazeblizzard Yeah I agree with you !

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    @craonbox

    7 ай бұрын

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  • @Numbuh8578
    @Numbuh85787 ай бұрын

    Kinda wish we saw Bubblegum and Gumbald truly get along again

  • @FIGUBLET
    @FIGUBLET7 ай бұрын

    ill never ever get the mindset of hating a character or not liking them because theyre purposefully written to be a bad person. people always want more gray area characters but when they get them they complain like theres no tomorrow. i love PB BECAUSE of her flaws, its what makes her a compelling and interesting character. she tries to be a better person througout the series and AT shows that, but yes she is not a good person. this is not a fucking problem oml it makes her a BETTER CHARACTER

  • @FIGUBLET

    @FIGUBLET

    7 ай бұрын

    + and i def do not believe that they needed to go any further with any of her arcs past.. i guess past distant lands. her whole character is that she has so many flaws that she cant deal with and almost never acknowledges them, but in the end she tries to some avail to be better. id rather have PB be a bad person who tries to be better than a bad person who out of the blue realizes all the horrible things theyve done and become a saint.. and that is one of the biggest issues i have with the bonnie "problem". how tf do yall expect a dictator with a god complex to have some epiphany and just become a good person for the sake of a happy ending? thats just stupid

  • @dickb1379

    @dickb1379

    7 ай бұрын

    @@FIGUBLET I think you are right, the show doesn't shy away from the fact that she's not a good person and frequently shows her trying to reign in her worst impulses. There's a fun scene in the "Season 11" comic series they published where something bad happens and Finn immediately rushes to confront PB about it and she admits that Finn has good reason to suspect her, given her past actions, but she's trying to do better.

  • @daniapfel2825

    @daniapfel2825

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@FIGUBLETIt’s for that those people who wrote this episode wanted continue Adventure Time and they REALLY know this finale is flawed

  • @choco-ps7rk

    @choco-ps7rk

    7 ай бұрын

    yea, its not about her past , just cuz she made mistakes for 1000 yrs doesnt mean she will continue to do so, ppl change

  • @jaydenc367

    @jaydenc367

    7 ай бұрын

    @@dickb1379 It does show her as a good better person at times though.

  • @user-wn3gk5yb4o
    @user-wn3gk5yb4o7 ай бұрын

    15:08 is so funny tho 😭😭😭

  • @fierygamingzilla69
    @fierygamingzilla697 ай бұрын

    She actually does have control over the grasslands and it's residents including finn and jake

  • @shadyblazeblizzard

    @shadyblazeblizzard

    7 ай бұрын

    When was that stated?

  • @fierygamingzilla69

    @fierygamingzilla69

    7 ай бұрын

    ​​@@shadyblazeblizzardit's not state directly but implied like in the episode she takes the tax but when u look at the map post elementification the area of the grassland that turns candy is realm under her rule. Candy kingdom is literally a kingdom where there are multiple non candy lords ana barons that pay her taxes and stuff like lemongrab, earl of chestnut, Finn and Jake, the dessert spike people town (idk the name), etc quick edit add on: also princess snaps is definitely like a puppet ruler u know ruler in name only kinda thing pb really allowing that no way she ain't giving up control

  • @shadyblazeblizzard

    @shadyblazeblizzard

    7 ай бұрын

    @@fierygamingzilla69 The Elementification stuff really shouldn't count since it split the entire land of Ooo into 4 pieces where it assimilated other areas and people not from the kingdom. I don't think I saw them ever taking taxes from other kingdoms especially Castle Lemongrab or the Duke of Nuts considering both were shown antagonizing her in some way (PB stated she had laws to not interfere with Castle Lemongrabs territory or politics and The Duke had her try to arrest the Duke of Nuts) The Grasslands have been shown to have ambigious ruling like with Baby Snaps and with Jake in Incendium calling Finn the Baron of the Grass Kingdom. Plus we also see a few other kingdoms that reside in the Grasslands like the Hot Dog Kingdom and the Goblin Kingdom so I doubt PB has the place under her control.

  • @fierygamingzilla69

    @fierygamingzilla69

    7 ай бұрын

    @@shadyblazeblizzard it's fair to say she control parts of the grasslands and areas outside the actually candyified areas of ooo, and just because we don't see the taxes being taken doesn't mean it doesn't happen the lemon people are her creations lemon grab is a duke one of her in theory loyal subjects it's not far to say she has more as she has chestnut as well

  • @shadyblazeblizzard

    @shadyblazeblizzard

    7 ай бұрын

    @@fierygamingzilla69 I dunno man if she has any actual control over Castle Lemongrab it seriously makes All Your Fault and the Lemonhope Episodes not make any sense. Really the taxes thing is the only time we ever see her have any amount of authority over people outside her Kingdom and its with her most allied followers so I still don't buy it.

  • @SarcasticAriel
    @SarcasticAriel7 ай бұрын

    Hot take possibly but I don't think Pb & Marcy make a good/believable couple or they could have been one but Pb didn't receive enough development for bad actions for them to work. (at least to me ) I think if the show kept Pb deaged and had her date Finn. Then as they started to explore more of her past and what she was like by making them a couple.

  • @ThiccFurryBoi34

    @ThiccFurryBoi34

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah honestly pb didn’t like change she like stopped doing weird shit that made her cruel kinda but marceline for some reasons goes back after what the break up song about how pb choose science over her

  • @SarcasticAriel

    @SarcasticAriel

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ThiccFurryBoi34 there is no guarantee that Pb wouldn't do that to her again.

  • @ThiccFurryBoi34

    @ThiccFurryBoi34

    7 ай бұрын

    @@SarcasticAriel i thought that’s what obsidian about pb this time choose her then Marcy

  • @SarcasticAriel

    @SarcasticAriel

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ThiccFurryBoi34 I still see Pb as someone who would fall back into her old habits.

  • @Rose-cq3bf

    @Rose-cq3bf

    7 ай бұрын

    Idk about her dating fin his character became more enjoyable when he moved on from her, but I do see her falling back to her old habits the same way she went back to spaying on pple, she never had a moral compass raised in her from a young age that’s probably why she is the way she is, so their most likely gonna end up in another breakup.

  • @daniapfel2825
    @daniapfel28257 ай бұрын

    28:07 I’m 200% agree with you !!

  • @daniapfel2825
    @daniapfel28257 ай бұрын

    2:38 Ay Caramba !! When i was child i have never knew it’s the first episode of this show !! Thank you !

  • @InfiniteSkiegh
    @InfiniteSkiegh5 ай бұрын

    I disagree about bubs not knowing about Finn liking her. She like hard friendzones him before she became teen bubs. She cares about him...but i think even that is calculated to a degree as he's their only chance against the biggest threats in Ooo and in the Lich's case caring for other's, love, is one of it's weaknesses. She one hundred percent abuses Finn's early feelings for her, and she doesn't hate him (obviously, they're compatible given the right circumstances), but knows anything between them is somewhat impossible, if not also really inappropriate.

  • @dropitypopity
    @dropitypopity7 ай бұрын

    18:11 i feel like this is more in the "Rattleballs" episode specifically he was going through a break up and was like 'i need purpose i follw pb npw' so yeah.

  • @ItsJascion
    @ItsJascion7 ай бұрын

    Nice video. I wanted to add on a point here 36:49 earlier in the show the ice king did something similar to a woman so he can force her to marry him, the show didn’t justify it at all but for PB it’s looked over and is implied to be better that way. Sure it isn’t forced marriage but it’s still forced servitude.

  • @emeraldpichu1
    @emeraldpichu17 ай бұрын

    I would say she did manipulate Finn. When she deaged it is very unlikely that it actually affected her mental age. Even then she was showing to be just as intelligent and calculating in her youth as she is in her current state, which it was also shown she had stayed young until she decided to start the kingdom properly and then probably aged herself by absorbing mass like she did later on since, she spent several hundred years as a child, until it was time to be seen as an adult, by the wider world and then suddenly, next time you see her chronologically, she’s her teenage self with no in between version to be seen and her 800 year lifespan shows she does not grow naturally. Also, while she did say she was not interested in Finn while he was trying to get with fire princess, there is the subtext of her suddenly becoming cold and aloof and dismissive like someone who has been slighted, she clearly took offense to Finn trying to get a girlfriend, and that says a lot about how she felt about their relationship and she was probably using him as a crutch, like probably many other previous people to substitute for Marcelene

  • @goofyrocks
    @goofyrocks23 күн бұрын

    It would be cool if someone did a review/rant of that creepy "It's a small world" ripoff in Suzhou, China.

  • @yinyangyt8749
    @yinyangyt87497 ай бұрын

    I loved Adventure Time so much. It is incredible. I never really thought about Bubblegum being a problem or annoying

  • @gabriellepeterson4465
    @gabriellepeterson44656 ай бұрын

    Can you make a Peppermint Butler Analysis Video?

  • @shadyblazeblizzard

    @shadyblazeblizzard

    6 ай бұрын

    I really don't see what there is to talk about him. He doesn't have much of a character arc

  • @Louis-kw6yk
    @Louis-kw6yk7 ай бұрын

    26:00 the problem here is that PB IS NOT A HUMAN, it's easy to us, humans, jugde her, but she never had a moral compass like we humans do, finn had jake parents, marceline had simon, pb had no one , except her brother which did nothing all day, when she got out of the mother gum, and pb lived alone till she started to hang out in ooo, which was during the time she met marceline, so all her moral compass started to develop during the time she met marceline, then she got distant from marceline, so pb only had few years to interact with people outside her kingdom during a lil before the whole series started! honest, it's like asking an alien to tell us what is wrong or right for us, humans. Also, the 32:51 this only happened because of the cosmic owl that came into her dream and messed everything up, her dream was abt her people turning against her (represet fear from the time she created her family which tried to get rid of her) and since the cosmic owl went to her dream, those things happened sorry for my bad english tho, not native to the language

  • @DumuziTheOriginalGod

    @DumuziTheOriginalGod

    6 ай бұрын

    Humanity’s mental morality compass broke ages ago, seriously ever pay attention to history? If you think that humans are have morality but other advanced species don’t then you are pretty much the Universal Council definition of being “racist”… Every advanced species except for reptilian aliens have better morality than humans ever did in their entire bloodthirsty existence.. several work for promoting peace… Also wtf is KZread removing my comments for? Nothing wrong about stating facts!

  • @rockorock999
    @rockorock9996 ай бұрын

    Hell of a good topic, subscriber to viewer ratio wise lol. Just started tho so maybe I'll push that up a little higher by the end 😉

  • @qz7694
    @qz76947 ай бұрын

    I often question why princess bubblegum isn't in the villains wiki but flame princess is.

  • @shadyblazeblizzard

    @shadyblazeblizzard

    7 ай бұрын

    Fun fact I actually was gonna make a joke on that but I forgot to put it in the script. Though technically at least Flame Princess in her introduction was evil but grew out of it with the help of Finn so technically she's a reformed villain.

  • @qz7694

    @qz7694

    7 ай бұрын

    @@shadyblazeblizzard why the hell is the wiki based off first impressions?

  • @shadyblazeblizzard

    @shadyblazeblizzard

    7 ай бұрын

    I dunno man Rigby has a page on there

  • @daniapfel2825

    @daniapfel2825

    7 ай бұрын

    Y’all blind, PB was not evil at season 1

  • @jaydenc367

    @jaydenc367

    7 ай бұрын

    I mean I wouldn't say she is evil but...I dunno, it has Benson there too. And I dunno...Pink Diamond really isn't that bad either.

  • @singingice
    @singingice5 ай бұрын

    You got one thing wrong about the crown. Alongside it being the Gem of Power, we can already see its primary use in the finale of season 2. The gem seems to be the same that Finn and Jake wear in defense against the Lich, meaning it has the power to keep the Lich out of her mind. So I can see why it would be important for her to keep it

  • @shadyblazeblizzard

    @shadyblazeblizzard

    5 ай бұрын

    I'd argue that the Ice King was also immune to the Lich's possesion. Technically the crown's gems were also a gem of power (Somehow even though I feel it doesnt quite make sense considering they're actually the Eyes of Magwood) but I feel that inconsistency makes it that much more vague and unintentional.

  • @thejahniyadiaries1816
    @thejahniyadiaries18167 ай бұрын

    okayyy tree trunks wedding was def a bit much 😂😂😂. the nope nope stop talking go to jail had me in tears lmaooo. but respectfully speaking the king of ooo was and remained a sleezy guy always doing sneaky stuff. i would think that contract is bs too. him and his lu swiper squirrel always making them illegal ass contracts 😂😂😂

  • @JoaoPedro-eq3hj

    @JoaoPedro-eq3hj

    7 ай бұрын

    Tree trunks wedding was more comedic than anything tbh

  • @TheAnxiousOwl
    @TheAnxiousOwl6 ай бұрын

    I agree with the communication between the characters but liking the character generally, I think it's ok if the character is crazy dumb in their authoritarian ways and is still doing stupid shit because that's just how they are. Don't gotta grow as a character to be interesting however you must grow to be liked more and not be a constant annoyance in the future. She slowly has more and more of her personality evolve but for the worst... she still holds on to her ideals and still does the total opposite of what she's told. She just has a stubborn trait and manipulative personality in such a way that the outcome of a problem will always be what she wants it to be in a positive light. Nobody else is right is basically her motto. She is totally a bitch but not unlikeable. Also... you can be smart and be totally unwise at the same time. Without wisdom, your knowledge will not elevate to its full potential. It's like an unfinished idea or action. It's like you're half assing what you could do, especially for someone.

  • @unripetheberrby6283
    @unripetheberrby62837 ай бұрын

    15:27 I could, just not in front of others and with a kinder sounding delivery.

  • @jaydenvaughn1595
    @jaydenvaughn15953 ай бұрын

    Princess Bubblegum created and conquered Ooo in secrecy, the show is an action comedy set in a fucked up post apocalyptic earth with fantasy elements, it is written as a world with individual characters with each having their own story goals and character. The show isn't written for in a way for it to "give pay off" for certain things seen throughout the show in the way that you are wanting. It's used to show her character, what she's capable of, and establish hints at what's happened in the world around; it is who she is. In the hundreds of years it excludes direct information in the show about her background and the land of Ooo during that time it can be assumed she made all of the other food kingdoms and citizens: she made her kingdom and citizens, lemongrab, wildberry kingdom, breakfast kingdom, etc. for various reasons, but mostly to have influence and always be in control but not appear to be in control as that puts a target on her back - like the bathboys from the shoko episode. What u do is: create kingdom, princess to rule kingdom, citizens to expand, control and manipulate princess like how she does finn, and keep eyes on them with tote ceremonies and princess days and potlucks and put cameras everywhere. That my friend is the pay off. She's the reason why there's so many princesses. I could go forever more about who she is, what she does, and why she may, but I'm leaving it at this. Ty Edit: Also just giving more credit and stuff to the conversation: if she is so intelligent enough can make all of these life forms - that have reproductive qualities mind you - and craft all kinds of high tech technology this fast and all of the other insane things she's made and done - in actually realitively such short time spans as well; you'd think she'd have more intelligent citizens and police force, but no lol, why would she? She can make the other controllable princesses more intelligent to the rest of the citizens so they can "control them" but in reality - like she said to Flame Princess when she went to destroy their Mo weapon stockpile and environment - 'this is "my realm'' and "those weapons are too dangerous" for it'. She built this land she's gonna do what she wants and get what she wants one or another in her eyes, even tho she may have some change of heart at times.

  • @thejahniyadiaries1816
    @thejahniyadiaries18167 ай бұрын

    let me get this straight SO ITS PB FAULT bc she innocently laughed at cookie?! COOKIE DECIDED TO GET THAT MAD OVER SOME SO STUPID AND PUT INNOCENT LIVES AT RISK. let’s be real quite literally none of the candy people have the capacity to rule the kingdom, most of them are quite stupid. with only a few exceptions. ntm they don’t live very long lives. hence the raising them from the dead episode.

  • @Rose-cq3bf

    @Rose-cq3bf

    7 ай бұрын

    No that’s not what he said he was just explaining cookies backstory, not to mention he didn’t risk anyone’s lives bc candy pple are too dumb to hurt anyone and pb should know that no one was in real danger, Where pb messed up is refusing to just give him the dumb crown, he was never gonna rule anything he’s too stupid to understand what a princess is he just wanted to be like her, jake just gave him a crown and told him he’s a princess and that’s pretty much all he wanted, there’s no reason to send him to jail for the rest of his life just bc he can’t control the way SHE created him.

  • @jaydenc367

    @jaydenc367

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Rose-cq3bf He did risk lives as they can hurt people...they aren't so dumb that they can't hurt anyone and PB knew that some people could have been in real danger. Did she really mess up there? I mean...I dunno he does genuinely want to rule and the others did bow to him, I mean yeah jail for the rest of his life is too harsh. He could control that and she didn't create him to have that exact personality.

  • @Rose-cq3bf

    @Rose-cq3bf

    6 ай бұрын

    @@jaydenc367 thinking about it now I would've handed him the crown to lure him out of the store, then sent him to jail for still disturbing the peace, then send him to therapy for being mentally unstable, there he can meet Jake and resolve his problem, I think that pb got paranoid bc it's probably the first time one of her candy citizens ask for the crown and go as far as holding hostages, I personally don't think he would hurt anyone but i cant fault pb for thinking so, cuz its new behaviour and as the ruler she has to treat this as a threat just in case.

  • @jaydenc367

    @jaydenc367

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Rose-cq3bf Great idea! Well yeah she may have been paranoid.

  • @Idcidancecool
    @Idcidancecool6 ай бұрын

    Candy tax is clearly just an excuse to go talk to them. Does she even pay them? Wouldn’t she just deduct it from their pay? There are a lot of things that happen in the show where you have to think further than what they’re saying like the whole fling princess thing yeah, she happened to be right with the fact that she went looking for dirt is proof enough itself that she wanted some sort of excuse, for Finn, not to see her And the whole episode she was lying and at the end she was disappointed

  • @2shadowgamer2
    @2shadowgamer27 ай бұрын

    All of this would be fine if there was lasting consequences for her actions. It would be really interesting character writing if executed well.

  • @daniapfel2825
    @daniapfel28257 ай бұрын

    3:19 TBF ?

  • @kaylajackson9490
    @kaylajackson94905 ай бұрын

    How Bubblegum felt about Goliad was a reflection of how she felt about herself. Hell, she projected a lot of negative ideas she had onto others who actually admired her he wasn’t self aware enough of her own impact. And pretty entitled in my opinion sabotaging her own efforts while others enabled her and stunting her own self growth

  • @EatTheRichAndTheState
    @EatTheRichAndTheState7 ай бұрын

    Pb, literally the us

  • @decidueyezealot8611
    @decidueyezealot86117 ай бұрын

    Ngl the rattle all stuff was messed up

  • @kaburnicas
    @kaburnicas7 ай бұрын

    Bubblegum is a gaslighter

  • @starwantrix5324
    @starwantrix53245 ай бұрын

    PB is my favorite character in Adventure Time, I do realize how evil she sometimes is. I don't excuse her. I just like how crazy this character is, I think the writers made her that way to make the show more interesting, I'd be immensely bored if PB learned all her lessons and was a good moral character that doesn't commit any evil stuff. I mean, that wouldn't be interesting at all, she would be like any other similar character. Evil is a spectrum, Bubblegum is chaotic and that is just gold, she isn't strictly evil. I can't imagine any other character in Adventure Time being this unhinged. It's so much fun, you can hate her or like her, but either way you gotta admit that she is an interesting character

  • @lenab_paints
    @lenab_paints6 ай бұрын

    I totally get your point about her not getting consequences, but I see this as accurate to real life. I know someone like this, a good person, but powerful and in control of important things, so they don’t really accept being questioned. Power often means going unquestioned and crossing lines without retribution, eventually it becomes normal to the people around. So I see this characterization of PB as the corruption of power in what would have been an otherwise good person

  • @auburneytuckerson2959
    @auburneytuckerson29596 ай бұрын

    Maybe everyone is scared of what Bubblegum is capable of as to why they enable her. She's fucking powerful. As a poor candy elemental, she was able to turn others into candy.

  • @mirkohoble
    @mirkohoble6 ай бұрын

    The lack of repercussions she gets is my main issue, not only in the series, but in fandom too. The vast majority of people defend her, I honestly grew to dislike her more thanks to her "defenders".

  • @Idcidancecool
    @Idcidancecool6 ай бұрын

    Gonna be real with you your tanks are weird she’s a really good friend to Finn is crazy your projecting really hard onto these characters and it really shows please look inwards

  • @daniapfel2825
    @daniapfel28257 ай бұрын

    Fun Fact: Marceline and Princess Bubblegum never supposed be together. After the episode What Was Missing the fans wanted shipped both. I understand that Pendelton Ward and his team wanted satisfact their fans of this show

  • @redactedinfo8557

    @redactedinfo8557

    7 ай бұрын

    i mean even if it is fanservice at least it's well done fanservice that feels natural with the show

  • @daniapfel2825

    @daniapfel2825

    7 ай бұрын

    @@redactedinfo8557 Yeah if the team didn’t decided of make Bubblegum a big douchebag sociopath dictator

  • @JoaoPedro-eq3hj

    @JoaoPedro-eq3hj

    7 ай бұрын

    I mean in what was missing Marcy literally said "I wanna drink the red from your pretty pink face"?? What kind of friend says that to another? They fr already wanted the ship when they made that episode lmao

  • @germansojopagan7381
    @germansojopagan73817 ай бұрын

    Thats why to me regular show is far superior in character development buen adventure time.

  • @corygrubert2844
    @corygrubert28447 ай бұрын

    sapient vs sentient, I am pretty sure you meant sentient.

  • @shadyblazeblizzard

    @shadyblazeblizzard

    7 ай бұрын

    No sentient means something is aware of its own existence. Sapient means it is capable of human level intelligence and complex thinking. Most life is sentient, barely any are sapient. A dog is sentient but not sapient. Since the Rattleballs are able to think for themselves and break beyond their programming to do their own actions and desires they are sapient.

  • @Louis-kw6yk
    @Louis-kw6yk7 ай бұрын

    The rattleballs were robots tho, not even conscious, except for the main one

  • @shadyblazeblizzard

    @shadyblazeblizzard

    7 ай бұрын

    That's not entirely true as the entire reason PB executed all the Rattleballs was because they choose to do shady things outside of their programming. At the very least it seems the main Rattleballs was the one with the most willpower.

  • @thejahniyadiaries1816
    @thejahniyadiaries18167 ай бұрын

    onto rattle balls.. them is top notch killing machines. who showed they can get out of order. those types of things have to be controlled or else the result would be pretty bad. they like to have dog fights, if they all glitched their programming, what do you think would happen 😂? she had the ability to erase a threat and did. very reasonable. would anyone be okay with human conscience and physical robots having their own free will and judgement? i think tf not 😂. a plate for disaster.

  • @MangaBear

    @MangaBear

    6 ай бұрын

    Plus I ask myself why Should I care for a machine that I can gather it's memory in replace it in a new body or upgrade it ... Lol idc if it's destroyed machine are set and created then a organic being..

  • @abcdef27669
    @abcdef276697 ай бұрын

    There is an aspect of PB's background I never liked: The fact she is basically a primordial being, and created the Candy Kingdom, and all the inhabitants. It would be much more interesting if she had ancestors from an entire royal lineage ruling the Candy Kingdom from centuries before her, explaining why she acted that way, in order to defend the country. If PB appeared as a ruler overwhelmed by the size of her heritage, some of her actions could be considered even "reasonable". Just imagine how different would be the episode about her fight against Flame Princess, if we got a flashback showing a previous war between the kingdoms of Fire and Candy, With the giants being used as a doomsday weapon.

  • @shadyblazeblizzard

    @shadyblazeblizzard

    7 ай бұрын

    It did look like that was the plan since early seasons showed other Bubblegum People in the backgrounds as portraits and of course Uncle Gumbald being namedropped in Season 2 before it was retconned. I'm not against what they did but every decision will cost a potential storyline. Though I feel what you said would help fix a lot of her God Complex. Also that last point would literally be a million times better giving an actual justification for the conflict instead of just "FP's brother really wants to blow up the Candy Kingdom for literally no reason"

  • @booboothecool

    @booboothecool

    7 ай бұрын

    im sorry but an eldritch hivemind made out of bubble gum who evolves into a mad scientist dictator who creates and destroys life just for fun, is way more creative and interesting than just… a normal royal lineage? like we have that in real life

  • @Sol_Invictus777

    @Sol_Invictus777

    7 ай бұрын

    @@booboothecool thats not the point he made in the vid, the point is that there are no consequences for PB and her sometimes insane evil actions.

  • @jaydenc367

    @jaydenc367

    7 ай бұрын

    @@shadyblazeblizzard I mean...the fact that FP's brother wanted to conquer other kingdoms and how FP literally attacked and set aflame the Goblin kingdom sounds like enough reason not to trust them.

  • @shadyblazeblizzard

    @shadyblazeblizzard

    7 ай бұрын

    @@jaydenc367 Considering FP has well since moved past that phase after she was driven insane by isolation (which PB CAUSED might I add) that's unfair especially after she became a much more trustworthy leader and much more trustworthy than The Flame King who proudly admits he's evil. And as I said PB and FP have had some relation and trust in previous episodes so its not like they can't work anything out. Also again if you're only justification for an episode's conflict is to introduce a no-named character with an out of nowhere vendetta they are hellbent on, that's objectively terrible writing in a plot you're supposed to be taken seriously. Oh yeah let's not forget "Why can't you just trust me!?" "Because you're a dingdong" and please tell me why I should think that's reasonable.

  • @vinniee.
    @vinniee.7 ай бұрын

    I love pb and all but marcy deserves better ngl

  • @abcdef27669
    @abcdef276697 ай бұрын

    Few observations: 1-I agree with everything about Lemongrab. Good Lord, he is annoying! I always had to lower the sound of my tv when he appeared on screen... Although I liked his (sorta) redemption arc, alongside the Lemonhope journey. 2-Reducing the Candy People to a mass of imbeciles was one of the worst decisions on the writing of Adventure Time. There are several episodes with interesting candy persons, and they showed good level of inteligence and reasonable thinking, like Mystery Train, Apple Thief and Hug Wolf. 3-Uncle Gumbald simply doesn't work as a finale antagonist. After dealing with the Life-eraser himself (Lich) and a literal Eldritch Horror (Orgalorg), seeing a potential usurper it's just a downgrade. Gumbald would work better as a main villain during the earlier seasons (heck, he could even had been the reason why PB become paranoid and power-hungry in later seasons, if this happened). 4-It is amazing (and not in a good way) how the writers didn't know what to do with Flame Princess. The only episode focused on her that I liked was Vault of Bones, with her and Finn exploring a dungeon full of skeletons. For some reason the writers decided that she loves to sing Rap, and that's it, at point of making an entire episode about it, on the final season! 5-The writers of Adventure Time were able to create an acceptable redemption arc for Xergiok (the former goblin leader), but not for one of the main characters. 6-I'm happy to know someone who also like Raggedy Princess. So bad she didn't done anything else, beside repairing Finn's backpack and getting embarrassed about it. This is another problem on the writing of Adventure Time: They already had a lot of characters since season one, but still pumped more characters on the story, making it difficult to develop what they already had. 7-If PB is capable of creating more Candy People, why there are orphans in her Kingdom? 8-Just because you foreshadowed a creature capable of destroying the entire existance (Golb), doesn't mean you must make it the "final boss", because a cartoon isn't a JRPG. At least you shouldn't shoehorn it when we already got another adversary (Gumbald) right on the corner.

  • @jaydenc367

    @jaydenc367

    7 ай бұрын

    2- Eh...not really as they aren't all idiots. Exactly! They really aren't all dumb. 3-Well he wasn't the finale antagonist. He was a central antagonist which works but not the finale one. I think he works here too, the build up and mentions of them throughout the series really built up to them here. 4-they knew what to do with her and she became a great leader for her kingdom and really developed into a great person. 5-which character is that? 6-ok yeah that's true and makes sense when you have 10 seasons 7- she is already really busy and likely does not have time for that...at least not all the time. 8-True but it can be done and be done well. I mean it wasn't shoehorned, they talked about it and built it up in the last few episodes.

  • @slimthuggamothafucka2909
    @slimthuggamothafucka29097 ай бұрын

    “BUT PB HAS THE GUMBALLS” 😂😂😂😂

  • @theshadowking9626
    @theshadowking96267 ай бұрын

    Holy c*** I went to read the comments and there were only 5 and I was like. Oh I must be early. So I looked at the video and it only had two hundred years and then Holy c*** I went to read the comments and there were only 5 and I was like. Oh I must be early. So I looked at the video and it only had 200 views then I looked at the Subscriber count and it was only 200. How have you not blown up yet the video is very well done well, Good editing, good script and good commentary altogether.

  • @luckas221a

    @luckas221a

    7 ай бұрын

    200 years lol

  • @swiggydswirl330
    @swiggydswirl3307 ай бұрын

    Homophobes don't want Marcy and PB to get together because they're both women. I don't want Marcy and PB to get together because PB is a legit absurdist war criminal... We are NOT the same 😤

  • @swiggydswirl330

    @swiggydswirl330

    7 ай бұрын

    Btw, I absolutely love PB to death and believe she is the best case of a Mary Sue. She's just so blatant and unironically apathetic to her behaviors that I can't help but think this was completely intentional by the writers. Like, I hate her, I think she's evil, but she's also a great character study as well.

  • @envision6331
    @envision63317 ай бұрын

    AYOOOOO 33:08

  • @shadowsfromolliesgraveyard6577
    @shadowsfromolliesgraveyard65777 ай бұрын

    Is it possible Candy People are inherently evil? From what I remember every Candy Person smart enough to do evil does so PB & her family, Goliad, The Lemongrabs, Peppermint Butler Maybe PB is just a necessary evil to suppress Candy People's true nature

  • @shadyblazeblizzard

    @shadyblazeblizzard

    7 ай бұрын

    I doubt it since the Candy people were literally made to be complacent and stupid...but you do make a good point it is a concerning trend. Maybe it has to do with the Candy Element shown to be very assimilatory and ruthless in its strongest form. But then again its not like the other beings from Elemental sources showed the same traits.

  • @rae5425
    @rae54256 ай бұрын

    24:00 As an argument. You can see this in the eyes of the Candy Kingdom people. Your Ruler, the Princess Bubblegum, organize a covert mission to sabotage the neighboring nation's nukes -a nation which she perceives a threat to her and her people, which she executes she herself, by her own hands. She'd be a hero in her own people's eyes, specially so as she cost zero bloodshed. The thing is, it's not that she's completely wrong. PB is a scientist, she's tech savvy. the moment she sees the Fire Giants, she immediately recognizes what they can do. And don't forget, the Fire Kingdom are essentially a bunch of cavemen with a dozen nukes sitting in their kingdom. Which they worship religiously. Imagine a country, that has dozens of nukes which can cause a nuclear winter having illiterate monkeys at the helm. How would you act? That is literally a catastrophe waiting to happen. Now whether you agree with her actions or not, that's besides the point. But one thing remains as a fact. She disabled nukes from the most volatile nation without a single drop of blood.

  • @weird751
    @weird7517 ай бұрын

    Great video, agree with mostly everything you have to say here. Wish PB got more consequences for what she did.

  • @bombsgamer
    @bombsgamer6 ай бұрын

    i love lemongrab what the hell, you rigamarole

  • @fumomofumosarum5893
    @fumomofumosarum58937 ай бұрын

    you're 80 positive -20 negative towards her? wow very lenient of you. i'm more like 40 positive - 60 negative towards her. really thing she's an awful / nasty char...

  • @thejahniyadiaries1816
    @thejahniyadiaries18167 ай бұрын

    i’m just commenting as i watch, but as to pb cutting the limbs of these little candy things, how do you think the science of this world even exists? everyone is grateful for the benefits that today’s science brings, but how do you think we have that knowledge? through experiment. like it or not science is a necessity to live the lives you live. wasn’t made to nice. now to her breaking ice king’s pinky.. this is the same idiot that has kidnapped her a million times, made her people sick, dropped her into the lich’s well, etc.. who gives af about ice king’s pinky. she owes him way more than a broken pinky 😂.

  • @sadgirlhrz
    @sadgirlhrz7 ай бұрын

    thank youuuu! adventure time is my favorite show of all time and i don't like pb lol but i didn't have a solid reason as to why i didn't. this video showed me why lmao

  • @ZelZarKi
    @ZelZarKi7 ай бұрын

    I got a lot to say. I think its mainly to do with Greed born of Blackrock. Basically, investment firms like Blackrock make large investment offers. Those offers are massive yet come with conditions. Among them typically includes but are not limited to things such as demands for great LGBT inclusions and Female empowerment. And when I say huge offers, I mean massive enough to where corporations will bite almost without fail. The executives of Cartoon Network among other places all said yes and caused the writers to be enable or disabled regarding how certain characters are written and treated. This all really started popping off around the beginning of the 2010s. This is due to the nature of companies, they HATE risks and they LOVE sure things. What they did to Princess Bubblegum was part of a "Sure thing" in the eyes of the company. Guaranteed money. The only way they could lose in their minds was to not take the cash. This is why Season 1-3 Bubblegum and 3-10+ Bubblegums are so radically different in terms of characterization and writing. At first she's is a stereotypical Princess whom Finn was probably meant to get with by the end of the series (like in the comics). But by the end of the series, shes a sort of social figurehead for viewers. This meant they could not depict Bubblegum in a negative light in any significant way, regardless of the subject matter because she was a female authority figure that could serve as a role-model for girls. Anything she does wrong is treated as a "For the greater good" or "She did what she had to" or "Someone got in her way" sort of deal and nobody is allowed to be effective resisting her no matter how correct they are for doing so. Furthermore the investments were probably the driving reason behind the way they wrote her lore and her "Family". Gumbald HAD to be a cartoonishly evil villain to the point of being an outright caricature, because someone with authority over the writing team likely ordered such a thing. Ever wondered why Neddy was an irrelevant addition? As in, the episode having virtually no effect on the plot or the characterization of Bonnie at best? Because they had to push a message while ALSO making PB look good. They failed, obviously, but they got their message, who cares if its of any relevance? Thats pretty much a summary of why they were motivated to write her the way she was. Theres also the factor of bad writers, or at least writers who did not care for the show or were just projecting something onto the character. A good story and character could have been still made under these conditions but there were probably people who did not have good intentions, skills or professionalism to make it happen. Huntress Wizard is a bit of an example of this when shes properly introduced, somebody taking their real world issues and injecting them directly into the character (supposedly). Bubblegum likely had a bit of that happening to her where she was being used a sock puppet for subjects that were either poorly handled or simply shouldn't have been explored and was almost certainly in a mix up of people pulling her around in terms of visions for her. This all together, makes PB feel artificial. The only thing that feels real with her is her relationship with Finn, which is honestly her only lifeline as a character. And thats in SPITE of how she treats him at times. Everything else feels wrong. Her relationship with Marceline is at best dysfunctional to the point of being inherently toxic and should not work at all as the two are at mutual odds with one another. But they remain together due to the networks demands for it to continue working for the sake of Corporate Greed. Now they COULD work, but they aren't given the time to make it happen. Bubblegum NEEDS to be developed, but that won't come without her suffering a humiliation, Justice served and self-reflection, something the Company will not allow, so it will feel hollow at best. It should also be noted that, regardless of what the writers or producers or executives or anyone else on the team directly says regarding Bubblegum or anything else, their words cannot be trusted. They either go along with whatever they are told, or they're fired. It's like a Game of Thrones with less bloodshed. They could tell you that Snow is White and Water is Wet, it will be a lie in some manner. I know thats a bit of a side tangent, but its an important one. In Hollywood, Greed is King and it kills everything. Thankfully, I do think this hot mess express that is Princess Bubblegum can be easily fixed, but I doubt it will be, because like I just said, Greed is King and it kills everything. I truly want her to be a great character, she has all the pieces to be great, shes just missing that bit of will to make it happen. I could probably do it all with 10 little words in a 10 minute episode to set things right if I was given the chance.

  • @grielff
    @grielff7 ай бұрын

    she just comitted 2 genocides and you guys call her evil🙄

  • @daniapfel2825

    @daniapfel2825

    7 ай бұрын

    What is the 2nd genocide ?

  • @Irmis98

    @Irmis98

    7 ай бұрын

    The fuck are you saying Literally the only thing that csn be called "evil" is destroying robot guards, who were violent machinery working outside of their programming

  • @grielff

    @grielff

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Irmis98 im just saying what the video is saying dude. not an adventure time fan tbh. i just thought the vid looked interesting. im not agreeing or disagreeing with the vid. just joking.

  • @51nashyraputri24
    @51nashyraputri246 ай бұрын

    tbh she's not a "horribly written" character, she IS a horrible character. maybe you just hate her.

  • @Javajavajav
    @Javajavajav7 ай бұрын

    It is very difficult to understand what you are saying.

  • @shadyblazeblizzard

    @shadyblazeblizzard

    7 ай бұрын

    Use the close captions I put them in almost every video.

  • @rockorock999
    @rockorock9996 ай бұрын

    Um... I think a more accurate word for nearly everytime you used the word Sapient. SENTIANT. Is probably the word you were looking for. As Sapiant is a near synonym for Anthropomorphism. They both refer or as a default stand upon the self sentience of the human race and existence. Belittling or suggesting they are still objects but not people. Instead most all of the candy people, rattleballs. And several other character u referred to as sapient, more generally and even specifically make more sense refered to in their own self existing position of perception. They aren't just walking talking candy masses. They have "Sentients"

  • @rockorock999

    @rockorock999

    6 ай бұрын

    More than likely a wrong gramatic usage of the word at the end of the message. But I'm sure you understand what I'm saying lol

  • @shadyblazeblizzard

    @shadyblazeblizzard

    6 ай бұрын

    Not really. Sentience is just being aware of your own existence while Sapience is reaching a human level of thinking and awareness. Nearly all animal life is sentient but rarely any can be considered sapient. I clarify this as important since the Rattleballs might have been robots and were created but they had a level of independent thoughts and personality that would make them sapient so effectively like an actual person.

  • @jacktaylor6155
    @jacktaylor61557 ай бұрын

    Do yall got any guns!?

  • @klutzmtg2310
    @klutzmtg23107 ай бұрын

    People who tell me Bubblegum is a character with tons of growth and change are fucking lying to everyone including themselves. She doesn’t grow at all as a character and didn’t deserve to have a happy ending.

  • @regisshiv3542
    @regisshiv35427 ай бұрын

    Just like modrrn society 😅

  • @molly4561
    @molly45617 ай бұрын

    the lemongrab hate in this video is crazyyyyy i get that he can be annoying but he is my comfort character i just relate to lemongrab in so many ways

  • @grielff
    @grielff7 ай бұрын

    im tired of villians getting consequences. let bad people be bad till the end smh

  • @i-see-you-lol
    @i-see-you-lol7 ай бұрын

    gate ceeping girl boss

  • @Pfincess
    @Pfincess7 ай бұрын

    The Winter King did nothing wrong!

  • @pusheen9904
    @pusheen99047 ай бұрын

    Take a shot every time he says any word that has a s-c and his lisp sound so painful

  • @tri-sapien6487
    @tri-sapien64876 ай бұрын

    People love Marceline x Bubblegum... I hate it, and people are gonna say the reason I don't like it is because I'm homophobic, because people like drama and ruining other people's image on the internet.

  • @KuruSeed
    @KuruSeed7 ай бұрын

    oh hey look at that its video number three hundred and sixty seven about princess bonnibel bubblegum being a war criminal

  • @shadyblazeblizzard

    @shadyblazeblizzard

    7 ай бұрын

    It really isn't a "Is PB Evil" video its more about Princess Bubblegum developing negative characteristics and doing bad actions but never is called out or recieves consequences so she can'y grow from it and also just her inconsistent characterization. That's the actual 'problem' here. In fact I feel that's why people have such issues with her because even then the show could build from it with an actual character arc but it never really does which makes people upset that a character isn't developing from their bad choices.

  • @jaydenc367

    @jaydenc367

    7 ай бұрын

    @@shadyblazeblizzard I mean...honestly her characteristics mostly isn't that bad which as you even say most of time she is fine, honestly most of the time she isn't called out is when she isn't evil, in the wedding she was called out and still retracted her decision to imprison the people so she does grow from her bad actions as we see, I don't see how it's inconsistent, having trust issues is consistent, taking things too far at times is something she does at times, it really isn't inconsistent characterization. I disagree, it does and she does change a lot and humbles as a person including in stakes where she does her own thing no longer being a Princess. So eh she does seem to develop from them.

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