There should be a vote to delete button , so I could try to save anyone wasting 1:54 of their life as well.

I'm young and it is evident in my riding. I'm 17 and have been on the road for 18months now. I've had 4 accidents in this time and I would say 2 of them were 100% my fault and 2 of them were less than 50% my fault. From watching countless numbers of videos I feel my riding has improved before I even get back on the road. Before I would be doing 85mph down a lane with cars on my side of the road, now i will deffinately change my lane position and speed.... These videos really opened my eyes !!!

The first thing I learned when teaching myself how to ride (yes- it was a very stupid thing to do) was TRUST NO ONE AND NOTHING. Paranoia was the only way I lived to continue riding after my first stupid mistake of trusting people to be predictable. Oddly, the most dangerous obstacles weren't cars in my experience (they move slowly enough to be predictable) but pedestrians. I'm only talking about the obstacles in front of me. The idiots coming at me from behind I had no control over.

That is a very kool way of teaching someone how to ride.

On roads like these that's not unexpected, that's expected.

the dangerous bit is he nearly got knocked off !!! thats coz the rider behind was: 1/far too close and 2/the rider infront brake alot harder than what was needed. top tip, brake as soft as SAFELY possible, coz if ur rear-ended, your gonna be alot worse off, esp its a car behind

I'm a new biker and videos like this help me to learn how to deal with the odd things UK roads throw at you at any time. I recently went out followed by an experienced biker who gave me pointers of what I was doing wrong, including riding too close. Then the other day I found out why tailgating is so bad-a driver stopped suddenly in front of me because he was having a row with his missus- had I been closer I would have ended up in his boot! Keep up the good work and ignore the moronic comments.

What happens next? The 'advanced' biker almost goes into the back of the other guy, but ends up almost undertaking him insted.

@advancedbiker If only there were more road users that like you, are able to see point in peoples criticism on their tailgating. I have posted many comments on other videos about peoples tailgating, and the only response i get is arrogant, childish back chat from thes people saying things like "im confident and competent enough to tail that close". Its good that you have acknowledged the error in your following distance and made changes.

@BLACKSHACK16 No amount of experience would have made you aware of the hidden sheep. This is the key issue when speeding motorists say 'It was perfectly safe, a clear, dry road with nothing on it'. Then a deer appears out of thin air. There's no such thing as a safe road.

Can't believe some of the comments on here. The instructor's cam clearly shows that the sheep are obscured by the car in front right up until the very last second. The car's indicator is obscured by the rider who is positioned for the overtake. They're both preparing for the overtake and once accelerating they both immediately have to brake hard to scrub off that speed. I imagine the instructor is well aware that there can be sheep on the moors but I very much doubt he has X-Ray vision.

what happens next? well i wasn't expecting bloody sheep! well avoided, thought you were going to nudge the pupil.

I soon realised that apart from safety considerations, following too close leads to an uncomfortable ride; you only spot the drain covers when it's too late to avoid them

@okbye1 Fairly common. Most livestock tends to be fenced in (cattle, pigs, horses for example), but sheep are often to be found grazing freely around the countryside. Certainly around my way in Lancashire & the Lake District.

Nigel , where you met the sheep is a newish coffee shop , check it out , ie , big pieces of cake and if you are in the area ,check out The Bake House , cake shop in Whaley Bridge , in centre of the town , safe riding.I am considering a tour od cake shops book to be available on line , haha

The whole idea of the video is to teach preperation for the unexpected.From the observations of the video; the lead motorcyclists has left plenty of room to stop. The camera bike always rides staggered to the lead biker, (therefore increasing the stopping distance and better observation) The car driver has also signaled right when there is no right turn he also moved over to the offside. Therefore all is safe and no accidents. sheep don't do the highway code either.

Those sheep must have wanted a drag race . LOL. Good example of things to expect. Never know what is around the next bend.

Two other things to consider about "Tailgating". Your view ahead is compromised and will not be improved, if at all, as effectively by moving your lateral position on the road, as it would if you were further back. If you are following an HGV or commercial vehicle, the situation is even worse. Remember, if you are unable to see the drivers' eyes in their door/side view mirrors, they will be totally unaware you are there. "Only a fool breaks the two second rule" . . . . . on a dry surface!

Excellent example to unspotted danger.

@R0o0g3r You've missed the point, it's not about what the instructor does to miss the other bike, it's about the SHEEP in the road. The moral of the story is to expect the unexpected and look forward, not to always avoid hitting the bloke in front of you.

What happens next? I would hope the advanced instructor realised he was a bit close to his pupils and backed off a bit.

Good video, to all the negative comments just read the title and description: The unexpected Everyone makes mistakes, the fact that nobody got injured will allow the riders/driver to learn from their mistakes, advanced training can only be positive. If you need an ego boost please keep your comments to accident videos, hopefully you can revise from them...

@Scythian1 Best bit of advice I was ever given whilst on a bike,treat EVERYONE like their a moron,most of the time,they are. I've been in tons of situations,and seen WAY too many idiots in my time,complete idiots,and the scary thing is they aren't even AWARE what their doing is wrong. But yeah,treat EVERYONE like their a total idiot,keep your distances,only filter STATIONARY traffic,keep your wits about you and your mind sharp,and you won't go far wrong. Most of all,WEAR LEATHER AND ARMOUR!!

Sheep behaving baaaadly ? they don't do the highway code. A simple thing to remember is where you see sheep on the hills (you do on the cat n fiddle) theres bound to be adventorous ones on the road. Where there are cows there's cowshit on the road. Read the roads and the terrain and you will survive, ride safely everyone.

I live in cheshire never heard of this place.. When I get my cbt done i'm goin for some sweet rides in this heat !!!

@Scythian1 bikesafe is well worth a look at, the best piece of safety gear you can buy and much cheaper than a Aria lid.

I live in an area in Ontario Canada where Sheep arent a problem, but I have to watch out for Deer and Moose. A moose could really ruin your day.I am buying my first bike in the spring. I have already registered for a safety course. I believe it should be a manditory thing when first starting out. Thanks for the videos, Ive enjoyed them so far. Though I believe in Canada we cant do the fildering thing in traffic. Id have to check that.

Even when the road is clear?

Just seeing this. Both the trainee and instructor are in an appalling position for the right hand bend...What happens next proves the point.

Why was it unexpected? You always get sheep chilling in the road on that corner on the cat and fiddle! ;o)

that riders got some lightning fast reactions lol

Sorry Nigel look at the Bruce on the DL Suzuki under Big Day Out

I swear you have not noticed the staggered riding formation?

you're supposed to only travel at a speed that is safe to stop in the road visible. this incident is a bit different because the sheep were obscured by the car. you can brake in a bend, but better to use rear brake.

No gravel, no rain, no snow, no fog, no rush-hour London traffic. Big danger of breeding overconfidence.

Always slow down for Tailgaters... They are out of your control...

Nigel see footage of yours truely, bike two of " Bruce Crowther" Quine Road New years day.( Bruce's youtube submission) Unexpected but then not because of being a country road. An early section of our 700km day

Don't quite agree about the agility thing. As a qualified motorcycle Advanced Rider "Observer", I can see the reason for being trained not to follow the same line as the lead machine, to allow for an overlap when required.

@Dreamscape52 Found out today this would apply to pedestrians too...was riding in a town centre and a man stepped out right infront of me from behind a car, looking the wrong way on a one-way street. If I was riding much faster...

wow sheep how unexpected on the moors

Just think it's funny how the instructor tell the student, that the road ahead is clear. . Instead the instructor could say; "Check for clear road, and *___*___* if clear. Pointless to try and *walk the student through the road, when the student's actually in a better position to know. It's the *riding technique he's supposed to teach, not the road / current traffic-situation, am I right`?

I guess sometimes the problem with being an instructor (I can only assume as I am not an instructor, yet I have been leading a less confident driving to a destination in the past) is that you are not just driving for yourself, you are driving (or in this case riding) for the "student" also. Therefore your concentration which would normally being 100% on what you are doing, is less as you are also trying to focus on what the other person is doing aswell...

is that common in your land to let livestock roam freely on the hwy?

unexpected? country road with livestock = expect livestock on road

Your bike has an "Interesting" engine sound. XD

unfortunatly, there is nothing we can do about the sheep, they have free roam over the lands of cat and fiddle, and have done for years, if they want to cross the road, they can cross the road of thier own free will

WOW Powersheep :)) shouldn't the instructor be in front of the student, in order to be able to tell whether the road ahead, is clear, or not?

I was close, I guessed that a elephant came out and just took him out

nice sheep!!

Looked like the English boys were looking at their dates for the night. BAAAA.

what is Advanced Motorcycle Training ?

Kudos for owning the mistakes, advancedbiker. Some have said that trainers ride very close, but they shouldn't. Riding to one side is not an option; the pupil should be moving around, so will be dead ahead often. "Unexpected" in this instance is precisely the error. ~1s gap? Also you were riding into the sun, following a car with a brake light out. Too many "Advanced" bike training videos seem to be about riding fast, not safely. He hammers it again after this, like those were THE sheep.

@advancedbiker Tip to all the "noobs" out there...you never stop learning!!

@BLACKSHACK16 My comments are meant in the nicest way possible.

uk roads can be quite dangerous inthe means like the sheep for one

I feel bad for you with the ugly billboard licence plates.. they're much smaller here in the states

The video is about the UNexpected. The clue is in the title son.

I want my 2 minutes back.

Mick? Is that you?

I dont do advanced bike i do the advanced cars and i know how easy it can be to mess it up, you do feel a fool but as you say we do this to keep our skills up as well. ride safe

i thought you were supposed to stay in the centre - bit right of centre of the road but you guys seem to be following racing lines. And the guy on the yellow bike seemed a bit too close to the white line. If he were leaning in like that and a car came round hed be beheaded!

tis a touch irritating to have two bikes hovering off your rear bumper have to say regardless of have fast or slow the car happens to be going

Well this video is about as advanced as the environment they are riding in.

No need to get sheepish about it.!

Wooly boulders...sheep are hard B****ds. Saw someone hit a sheep once. Knocked him off and bent the footpeg round. The sheep just walked off, like it happened everyday.

wow, that's important: some sheep on the road... NOT IMPORTANT!!!

If you were in a car you would have most likely hit him, but because bikes are more agile so you can avoid things. .

when your riding the Cat n Fiddle road you should always look out for sheep every Macclesfield biker knows that !

sheep.....? eye opening.

14 years Ago

schaapies allemaal schaapies cool ride anyway : )

nice to know i not alone! must add most bikers do get a bad wrap, vast majority are responsible considerate riders, this rider in paticular is usually really good. just those damned teenagers and their waspy 125's!

wow awesome --'

watch?v=8Ltn5FAFkhM - sheep everywhere at the end- another excellent video- well done

To all those "who know it all", I hope you live long enough to learn better. Hitting an animal with a car can ruin your day, hitting an animal with a bike can ruin the rest of your life, be it seconds or years. I've been riding bikes for 40 years & one thing I have learnt is you have to make allowances, not only for your own limitations, but for the limitations & mistakes of others as well. Just takes one mistake, doesn't matter whose, to kill you. NEVER FORGET THAT!

"only a fool breaks the 2 second rule" :p rider with the camera was too close and didn't even seem to brake when the front rider braked

Cat, Fiddle & sheep I guess! hehe

does ANYBODY know why i allways come up behind cars and they brake ,,WHY???? if i suddenly see a bike appear behind be the last thing i do is brake .. also why is it always a woman that pulls out on you? great vid ,we can ALL make mistakes.. ALL !!!

Ermmm...nothing. did you read the comment I was replying to? Maybe you didn't get it?

@maggotpuke man i am so with you on this, i keep coming across these dumb ass vids. why oh why was th pupil so close behind the car, why was the teacher so close behind the pupil. if he cant do this right he should be removed from the advanced riders thing but man your comment made my day regardless, its almost as tho sheep on a country road is unexpected

wow outstanding , ffs , im off to look at wheelies an shit ,bye now!

i think ghost rider is the perfect rider,awsome.......

lol ya lucky its only sheep its horses ya have to be careful about near me

sheep. just sheep

I've seen some of your videos, and I think you're riding to close to the bike ahead. All the time. In this flick, you nearly drove into your friend/student, doing, say 20 mph? That is not very advanced riding. Anyways.. have a good one and stay safe : )

stupid pack full of ,all rights,

lmfao

most instructors are totally scared of driving a motorcycle that's why they are so into safe, I would say TO SAFE driving. they are afraid of everything what surrounds them on road. people like that making a hazard perception tests, where everything totally everything is hazard, people on side walk on other side of road HAZARD, car parked aside HAZARD, bird in the sky HAZARD. on vid like this where is the hazard? curvy road as f... no chance to speed up, plenty of time to simply slow down, ehhh sorry Im a kat A and B driver since 12 years this is just make a smile on my face..."and what happend next..." NOTHING situations like 10000 everyday while Im on my way home from work.

most of you people on here would have paniced and gas right into one of those sheep....

your just sad cause you own a vespa

Was that supposed to be dramatic? Also, way to tailgate.

gay

you simply don't need an "eagle eye" to see how they're both tailgating. What kind of "good" instructor perpetuates the belief that what they're doing is acceptable because of the type of vehicle they drive... obviously if they weren't tailgating they wouldn't have had an accident. Period. Tailgating is so insanely stupid. Period. Tailgate me and get rocks in your windshield or your facemask.

all that suspense for sheep? what a waste of time!

that ain't "advanced"... this is gay