I'm not huge on "swimmers" it makes it sound like a bunch of jizz is fans of adult swim

"I think Scout and Spy have a more father-son relationship in this show..." Yeah the comics confirmed Spy is actually Scout's dad haha

A lot of the info we have on the Hellbenders pilot comes from a now deleted update video on Zach’s channel titled “The Worst Update Ever (Sorry)”. Zach himself does touch on how Adult Swim would only pick up the show if the name was changed. Yes, it was because of Mr. Pickles being a show abiut hell but also Your Pretty Face Is Going to Hell. And i believe it was one of the later episodes of SleepyCabin where Chris and Zach lamented on how dumb of a move that was. But it of course has worked out for the both of them. However, in the same update video, Zach also mentions how HB was in fact picked up by a “3rd party” after a literal year and a half of negotiations. The leaked pilot actually seems to be for whoever the 3rd party was which I’m pretty sure is still a mystery to this day. And going with what you described the AS pitch being “the worst pitch AS had ever seen”, this was also mentioned in a SleepyCabin episode (I’m pretty sure it was the same episode in fact). The reason being just that Chris and Zach had never pitched a show before and came completely unprepared. One specific moment I remember them saying was that one AS executive noticed how the characters were Chris and Zach’s self inserts because the real Chris and Zach wore the same exact outfits to the pitch. The duo being dumbfounded because they didn’t even mean to do that I know if i actually put all this same effort into something useful and/or meaningful that I would be in such a better place in my life but I can’t help having such an encylopedic brain on pop culture. Its who i am

Thanks so much for having me on this one. Love working with the swimmers!!

@LrrOfOmicronPersei8

7 ай бұрын

Swimmers reminds me of dadders... how peculiar? Can you guys swimmed people?

The fact I’m watching this days after Pibby wasn’t picked up is super funny.

Man i remember seeing hellbenders as a kid, disturbed, yet entertained, i wish this became a full show

Not to be all cringe and sincere but these videos are great and it’s awesome to see you explain your niche interests. Definitely one of my favorite KZread guys rn. Also that rebeltaxi reference was perfect keep it up!

@dagtheking5739

7 ай бұрын

Dude, that was very cringe.

@moonlightEquinox

7 ай бұрын

​@@dagtheking5739 let the cringe be free my boy

@voiceunderthecovers

7 ай бұрын

Being sincere is cringe now?

@moonlightEquinox

7 ай бұрын

@@voiceunderthecovers nah

@mcraden3603

7 ай бұрын

I appreciated the rebeltaxi reference too as he is one of my favorite KZreadrs

Actually the current update tf2 launched with Expiration Date was heavily themed to the short. Many items based on how the characters appear or weapons based on bread monsters

@theotakux5959

7 ай бұрын

That was such a great update, too. A ton of great stuff, and it came right at the height of my interest in the game.

It’s funny you said that “Jeremy and the Spy kind of had a father son relationship” because they literally have that

If anyone is interested in the tf2 comics, while I'll always recommend them, keep in mind Valve pulled a Valve and didn't finish them. The last comic was released six years ago with the 7th and final comic either still in the eternal works, or just scrapped completely. And it ends on a massive cliff hanger. So.... enjoy!

@tortillasconsal4441

7 ай бұрын

Where can I read the comics? I've been looking for them all my life

@roxyinabox

7 ай бұрын

​@@tortillasconsal4441theyre all up on the tf2 wiki man go give it a read

@jackal2654

6 ай бұрын

​@@tortillasconsal4441i think yt deleted my comment with a link but there is a tab on the teamfortress website labeled comics that has them all :)

@agenttex5973

2 ай бұрын

​@@tortillasconsal4441The Teamfortress 2 website

@jevil_owo

Ай бұрын

​@@tortillasconsal4441 on the tf2 website, just google "tf2 comics" and they should come up

If I was in the 2010s as mid-teen knowing this, I would’ve predicted one of these shows to become a thing ngl. They had hopes.

@dagtheking5739

7 ай бұрын

I was a teen since 2018.

About Kristen Schall and adult swim, she actually was in a longer series than soul quest overdrive, she played a character in the heart she holler for one season before someone else took over the role.

I think Chris and Zack also admitted that Hellbenders just didn't work on adult swim like you said it didn't work in the longer format. I think it was on a podcast episode they said this but they also did it (podcast) infrequently after like a year then another year then another then they ended it. So I don't know where it actually falls in the timeline, I don't know (obviously) what happen but am trying to go off what I remembered what they said.

@twindrill2852

5 ай бұрын

Yeah…I think it was for the better that Smiling Friends ended up on AS, both because of its format and also to demonstrate how Zach has grown when it comes to writing.

oh god, charlie the unicorn...strap in for a wild nostalgia trip, folks

Love this, first video I’ve seen, but I find that it’s ironic this was released like a day or two before Pibby got cancelled 😂

I actually gasped when you said you didn't watch archer. Not because "omg, you HAVE to!" But just...genuine surprise? I love that show, but I've been watching it so long I never stopped to think how challenging it would be to get into

@JP.710

7 ай бұрын

I got into it early too, but I think archer is an acquired taste and I feel like I've lost said taste for the latest seasons. In my opinion it started going downhill when the coma happened.

finally someone actually into detail the REAL important stuff. Also that Rebeltaxi was pretty funny. I too also know that bit by memory.

you humming the pan pizza theme song pilot thing put you in my top 5 youtubers

honestly? I'd love a whole video on Filmcow, my favorite videos of yours are those where you talk about the stuff you're deeply passionate about (which granted, now that I think about it are almost all of them) and it seems like Filmcow is one of those topics, besides, even having watched a lot of their stuff before there's probably still a lot of stuff you could talk about that I had no idea about

Great video as always! Thanks for letting me read some of David Cross's juicy posts. Swimmers forever!

Welcome to Eltingville is fantastic because it's ahead of its time and essentially a failed adaptation of Evan Dorkin's comic series. Dorkin published the tales of The Eltingville Club in different mags, mainly his Dork Comics series at Dark Horse, throughout the 90's and early 2000's. He and his wife and fellow creator Sarah Dyer also wrote for several animated series including episodes of Superman the Animated Series and Space Ghost Coast 2 Coast. If you enjoyed the pilot, you should check out the comics. They're a snapshot of nerd culture in those decades and still hold up as a loving critique of the culture and all of its negative aspects, with the final comic being cherry on top.

i think about the tf2 pilot sometimes and contemplate driving off a bridge, also great video like always!

@anonymouslucario285

7 ай бұрын

You're suicidal over a cartoon?

@BlackMoonHowls

7 ай бұрын

@@anonymouslucario285 Yeah like tell OP to get real and get some real help. Sewer Sliding is no good bruh. Have them at least drink bleach first and then do it all in Minecraft as OP clearly stating wanting to, above.

@hergzcool

7 ай бұрын

same

"I dont even care about celebrity drama" Dedicates 45 minutes of a 1 hour video about cartoons to celebrity drama

I remember Cheyenne being referenced on squidbillies multiple times like they had cameos on the TV and random bits of merchandise like one of earlys most prized possessions is a Cheyenne cinnamon plush

Loved the RebelTaxi riff took me back to 2013

So just wanted to give a couple points to give you some extra context to some of the things you mentioned as an OG swimmer that was already out of high school when [as] premiered 1. When you mentioned about the representation of nerd culture and how it’s written, Welcome to Eltingville was an adaptation of Evan Dorkin’s Dork & The Eltingville Club, one of the greatest independent comics of the 90’s that was insanely steeped in nerd culture. The guy definitely knew his shit, and there’s more to why they passed on his show, Lazzo had basically stolen and changed another one of his books Milk & Cheese into another show on Cartoon Network, so there was a bit of bad blood between them. I still remember the night they premiered it, it was the same night the did Korgoth, and That Crook’s Sip (which was later reworked into Freaknik the musical) 2. Maybe it was the difference in age when it came out but I thought Cheyenne Cinnamon was great, and MF DOOM had also appeared in perfect hair forever and I think an episode of either 12 oz mouse or squidbillies before that too. From that same night of pilots, Totally for Teens was reworked or spun off into Mostly for Millennials 3. The Sir Willips Brightlymore alias was a callback to a sketch from Mr. Show with Bob Odenkirk and David Cross. The sketch featured a character named Willips Brighton and Cross just changed the last name a bit, you can find that here - kzread.info/dash/bejne/lmGdqtuhk9adeag.html 4, Loren Bouchard and H. Jon Benjamin have been working partners all the way back to Dr Katz Professional Therapist on Comedy Central, check it out sometime, that’s where they started with the squiggle vision that was used in the first season of home movies and the retro scripting method they’ve applied to every project they have done together. Cool video, it was nice feeling nostalgic for a bit, I used to record every Sunday, I had 2 milk crates full of everything that was aired between 01-06 until they got lost by the airline company in a move. Had that original night of premieres on one of them

I loved Eltingville, I hope it can have another go at some point.

TF2 would have been perfect for adult swim.

Also a big Filmcow fan from way back when. Actually just finished relistening to KnoxKast Radio this month. Their full-episode skit eps generally hold up pretty well, I’d count about 1/3rd of the episodes as quality.

I love hearing bh Dunning Kruger his way through the TF2 part

Wow, it's great that Wonder Showzen is getting the attention it deserves. Huge fan of pfffr.

You literally can play TF2 with a controller though, even before the deck you just had to look up a simple guide, connect your controller, enter a command, and you’re good to go, hell, TF2 was back on the Xbox 360 in The Orange Box

MDE never dies

I know you’re probably hella busy but I could t help grin when you talked about filmcow. They’re probably the oldest KZread channel I’ve been following and watching for over a decade. When I was in middle school I had all the songs illegally downloaded and would listen to them on repeat on bus rides. If you don’t have time to go over the channel I would love to see you make a video about the music numbers. They’re still so good even today

I appreciate the use of J-Dilla as your BG music for this one. I'm not ashamed to say AS introduced me to Flying Lotus, J-Dilla, and Boards of Canada.

The pibby jokes have not aged well after it got officially pronounced dead lmao

20:32 the shivering truth is amazing but it feels like watching a bad acid trip slowly unwinding

The comment about adult swim saying no to hellbenders because of the word hell comes from a video where Zach talks about it, I can’t seem to find it but I swear it exists

I remember Dan vs was going to be on adult swim

@TheNameIsNym

7 ай бұрын

Excuse me h w a t?! That would have been amazing 😢

You put in so much work man. I will always respect that. Video was fantastic.👌

1:33:50 I forget about the exact things that were said in the sleepy cast but I swear there was a part of it where either Zach or oney said yeah they wouldn’t let us call it hellbenders cuz of other shows so we didn’t continue to work with adult swim. I could be so wrong tho it’s been for ever since I listened to them so yeah.

It's a joy every time you upload, makes a long day after work so much fuckin better. Our niche interests ALWAYS end up overlapping, so the videos hit just right every time ❤️

Dude you’ve been on fire lately. Keep up the great work.

4:14 love this reference, and the way you do it so wordlessly because everyone will already know what it is anyway

Amazing essay, I hope you get more popular

I watched this video because Jason said "this is a good video". We like this video. (:

I love your videos BH, everytime I finish one of your long ones you make another lol

i love this man and this content it's just perfect, absolutely perfect

God damn, you lived my exact life bro. Subbed. Also the algorithm brought me here from Some More News, so that's an interesting, and kinda weird note

crazy seeing eltingville club in the thumbnail whenever i literally picked up the comics like one week before this after watching the pilot on youtube

I absolutely love all the Pibby roasting, thank you for that.

@ShiningTaiga

7 ай бұрын

Same those people are so annoying

My #1 Underrated channel bruh, appreciate the effort and topics!

I love that a lot of these have characters voiced by MC Chris. Underrated guy!!

Happy to see a fellow Royal Crackers connoisseur. Over the summer there was a month when I was somewhere where I could watch actual cable TV. It was when Unicorn Warriors Eternal and Royal Crackers were coming out, and I managed to catch the entirety of both shows multiple times over in broadcast. At first, I didn't find Royal Crackers very engaging since the art style gave off very generic vibes, but after seeing everything the show was doing with said art style and the wacky lore and plots they did I was really hooked.

I slightly remember eltingville when it aired on TV and I really really loved it waited for the next episode but after 2 months of waiting I forgot about it wish they made more tho, love ur adult swim hope we get more for Oct

i might be in the minority for this but i dont consider hellbenders a missed opportunity only because it being passed on led to a much better show, smiling friends, being greenlit

The Hellbenders shorts are funny, but looking back if [as] did reject it I can't blame them. There was not really enough going on in those shorts to stretch it out to a full show. You had cartoons of the creators who were funni random guyz, and they lived in a house, and that was about it. You can have loose 'random event of the week as the characters hang out' shows, like Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Beavis and Butthead, or Eddsworld. But Chris and Zach had basically no defining characteristics (Zach was maybe a bit more sentimental, where Chris was more blunt, but a lot of their lines were interchangeable), they just lived in a generic cartoon city, and all of the other people around were nothing extras. The main thing the pitch had going for it was it was made by some popular internet funnyguys. Chris and Zach were doing the best they could with it, but I think letting it die so something like Smiling Friends could be made was the best thing that could of happened.

All the hints make so much sense now

@random_man2339

7 ай бұрын

Wait if this came out 2 hours ago how it your comment 21 hours long?!?

@JustKindaJosh

7 ай бұрын

@@random_man2339 im kinda goated like that lol

Yo, idk what adult swim designated halloween for when it came to special programming but if you're trying to uncover old childhood memories I do distinctly remember watching "Welcome to Eltingville" for the first time as a kid on halloween night (again idk what year exactly) It was definitely a re-airing but I have super vivid memories of eating my halloween candy and watching it and a few other halloween themed eps

Love the rebeltaxi reference

I would love to see a whole video on the Charlie finale! It is so underrated and I'd love to hear a real fan discuss it

The Jon X David V Mike arguement was about as mentally stimulating as a long anticipated anime fight, thank you for bringing it to my attention

adult swim used to do live streams where they would literally have people pitch their shows called “pitch meeting.” It was so cool seeing shows start out as an on-the-spot pitch and turn into a whole ass show.

holy shit, ive never felt more specifically recognized in my life than with that pan pizza reference

Love the rebeltaxi nods

you are my favorite youtuber!!!!!!

so i remember cheyenne cinnamon was apart of a show to get greenlit thing on the adult swim website up against 7 other shows Duckworth, Neon Knome, Snake 'n' Bacon, Soul Quest Overdrive, Southies, Totally 4 Teens, and Yappy Broads it was hosted by Burger King

i had to tell my wonderful, but aggressively normal friend about filmcow recently because she hadn't even HEARD of charlie the unicorn. and I barely got through Llamas with Hats before she was like "this is so weird wtf" and i was so baffled that she had missed such an important milestone of my childhood. she was like "wow i can't imagine your parents were okay with that" and then i had to tell her that we all sat down as a family to watch them and my mum quotes them more than i do, and she was so baffled. I forget that normal people exist sometimes but this was a STARK reminder.

I still think about AXE cop on occasion. I saw it a few years back but remember how the MC won a fight because his body is so efficient it produces 0 waste and hence, he doesn't need to shit.

I feel the exact same way that you do about "Broomshakalaka"

Ah, man - early Adult Swim sure was special

YES YES YES BHULTRA VIDEO WITH ADULT SWIM AND TF2 ? MY 3 FAVORITE THINGS

Not me sniping that Loot Crate Punisher/Daredevil reversible beanie. It literally adds nothing to this fantastic piece of media, but I couldn’t not make the observation. 👀

1:07:17 absolutely TERRIFYING thought but also interesting to think about what my life would be like if this show didn’t consume most of my thoughts for the last 5 years (and a decent portion of my thoughts the 5 years before that)

I saw hellbenders in the thumbnail and knew I had to watch

WELCOME TO ELTINGVILLE MENTION RAGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH 🔥🔥🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅 fr though, I cannot explain how much i adore it. It's originally based on a series of comics by Evan Dorkin, and it's an absolutely amazing portrayal of toxic fandom and nerd elitism mentality. The comics were genuinely so ahead of their time, and they kind of predicted "obsessive" fan behaviour and fandom convention culture back before either of those things even really happened in large scales like today. The comics r a bit hard to find but they're such a fun read, Dorkin was really ahead of his time. The man predicted redditors

I would like to hear more of ur opinions on inside job

I loved Welcome to Eltingville, watched it when it first aired. Last month I read the comic, and the pilot doesn't get across how unlikable the characters are supposed to be. The pilot they seem pretty much likable, but in the comic they're very openly misogynistic, hateful to non-fans and fans who aren't exactly as into things as they are, each other for any minor disagreements. They constantly talk about shoplifting, two of them are arsonists, and they talk way more about sex. The scene in the pilot of Bill on as the captain of the Enterprise with a crew of all women? In the comic one is blowing him, and his dialog implies they all have to, one after another. It's a really stark difference from the fun geeky Big Bang Theory-esque show the pilot seems like.

17:00 I feel that heavy

I was surprised by the eltingville club showing up on my suggested because I feel like I’m the only one in the world who has even heard of it

Love the Jake and amir clip thrown in there haha

What do you mean Expiration Date was a pilot???! I always thought it was just an ad for an update- OOHHH WHAT WE COULD HAVE HAD

the talkshow boy caught me way off guard omfg

I kinda thought pibby wouldn't work as a full on show( BUT I WANTED IT TO), like I love the idea of learning wit pibby, I think it would work as a movie. I don't think it would work as an adult swim show cause of ( well the reason the creator and some youtubers say) it would be a total nightmare of legal ownership and it would be expensive to constantly do. I think it works for that one okay ko special cause it was a special( which i dont think theyve shown again) and I think it works for rick and morty cause they aren't going to multiple actual legal places, it's going to like legally safe knockoffs land. I mean they have characters based off the avengers and namor the sub mariner, but they aren't namor and the avengers.

Damn and Pibby didn't get green lit 😅😅😅

If you can't get through early Archer, start with season 5, aka Archer Vice. The whole thing changes and its my favorite season

I didn't get my set notification, but I'm here anyway.

I see Eltingville, I'm in. It's crazy how much gold it is, and it didn't get picked up.

The member of Soul Quest you didn't name drop is Gavin of Proud Boys infame, so weird.

@Melvinshermen

7 ай бұрын

Never found this Guy funny, i even found his vice stuff garbage.

@BlackMoonHowls

7 ай бұрын

Motorcity profile pic, noice.

What is that song you use in your videos that sounds like the opening to "Mr. Douchebag"? Did YFM sample that song, or the other way around?

BHultra is def my top creator of 2023. I’m so glad i discovered this channel.

1:10:00 Bro I bet you’d love the fan dub MLP: Friendship is Witchcraft

Makes a video apon total drama, new season gets greenlit. Makes show on adult swin pilots and mentions pibby about 6 times, show gets shot down. What next, a new season of stoked

Being anti social doesn’t mean having poor social skills. Anti social behavior is doing things that are considered to be outside the social norm. Like having sex for money, doing drugs, committing crimes, being violent or aggressive. What you described is just an anxiety disorder.

Yo where my hellbenders heads at

@boojersey13

7 ай бұрын

main reason i clicked oops

@0jeej0

7 ай бұрын

@@boojersey13 gang

I still show people Korgoth as my litmos test for how cool they are.

If this ever gets to you. I love your videos. You are my filmcow

I stg i remember watchin eltingville with my brother as a kid and i was born in 2002 so they had to have re aired it at some point

the rebeltaxi bit hahaha

Dude...found ur channel about... Ohhh...about, now. I just now found it. Already subscribed n liked. Kickass video. Well done sir...oh. 1 last thing. Matt Berry is 1 of the funniest fuckin ppl on the planet. I caught him on some of the shows ur talking about 1st. But...ive burned a good number of brain cells up since then. So the IT Crowd was my introduction to that hilarious Brit bastard. Don't get me wrong. That show was funny out the gate. And Chris Morris (I think thats right...dude who played Mr Renyholm(??)...can't remember how it's spelled) was so fuckin funny too. That whole cast was insanely funny. I mean down to the extras or 1 episode guest. Everyone was funny. On purpose or not. Moss n Roy Jen goth dude who had to live in the...ummm...Richmond, right? Fuckin killed it every show. But when Berry got in the cast...I mean he is literally so good it put that show on another level. His 1st scene ever...at his dads funeral..!!? Dude...I laugh pretty hard just recall ing the memory. And idgaf what anyone says. WWDITShadows, hands down the funniest most original (for what its based on NOT being so original these days), best cast...its very well rounded. But Matt Berry is a fuckin comedic genius. Now...I do understand u spent maybe 2 minutes, if that, and then much much much more video on awesome topics that have noting to do with what I'm on about. And to I say...good pointe. Im glad u broght that up. My response...marijuana. U rule dude...laters