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  • @SJ-oxy
    @SJ-oxy21 күн бұрын

    Adobe is betting everyone will be too lazy to learn a new tool. And they're mostly right.

  • @rossmanngroup

    @rossmanngroup

    21 күн бұрын

    Sad but true. A quick look upon Twitter shows they even among professionals, people are constantly complaining about this piece of garbage crashing all the time. They know way more about video editing and building computers than I do and they complain about this crashing all the time. The cool thing about DaVinci Resolve is not just the fact that it is the only video editor on Linux that has audio plugins that are not garbage, even though it does not allow me to import my own LV2 or LADSPA plugins. The cool thing is that it is never crashed on me in four years of use. It has never, not once, crashed on me in four years of use. Linux or Windows. Sony Vegas crashes every time you look at it. Adobe Premiere seems to crash all the time for the people that use it to edit video. Da Vinci Resolve is just beautiful. I would actually sponsor them or have them as a sponsor in all of my videos if I Had a "brand safe" channel that actually got offered sponsorships to things. but I will sing their praises for free here. Making a video editor that doesn't crash is one thing. Making it intuitive with good built-in plugins is another. But having something that actually fucking works on Linux and supporting it is amazing. Lots of people bitch that they only support rocky Linux. I do not give a fuck. What distribution of Linux does Sony vegas support? What version of Linux does Adobe premiere support? Exactly. Da Vinci Resolve works on Windows, Mac OS, Slackware Linux, DB and Linux, Ubuntu Linux, Arch Linux. It's just beautiful. The Arch wiki even as a guide on how you can make a work with Intel graphics which works normally on Windows and Mac, but does not work on Linux because of some nonsensical reason. That's why I had to switch from my framework laptop back to my ThinkPad. I added choice between using my framework with Windows because it only had Intel graphics from my ThinkPad from 2017 with Linux because that ThinkPad has Nvidia graphics. But now I can use the venture resolve on Linux with my Intel graphics and it works great, not a single crash ever.

  • @minigpracing3068

    @minigpracing3068

    21 күн бұрын

    I agree. I tried to move us to Resolve suite and was voted down. Had to go with Creative Cloud.

  • @toms7114

    @toms7114

    21 күн бұрын

    They are wrong though for anything involving IP development, all of the companies that do that will use something else because of security concerns. This won't matter for the next 5 to 10 years because it will take that long for colleges to transition to no longer teaching Adobe in the classes that currently do. The reason Adobe is doing this is that it will increase shareholder value this quarter, despite the fact that it decreases shareholder value in 5 years, and could quite possibly put the company out of business in 10.

  • @user-zk7vi4rx1k

    @user-zk7vi4rx1k

    21 күн бұрын

    Admittedly, I've had this thing crash. However, it was never the fault of the software.. Merely my graphics card shutting off mid-rendering for some random ass reason before I switched pcs 💀 I think I was using a forked pcie connecter on a card that needed two independent connections to fully run

  • @MicahBBurke

    @MicahBBurke

    21 күн бұрын

    @@rossmanngroup Photoshop rarely crashes, Illustrator on the other hand is a problem. That said, I think this TOC is just badly worded. It looks like they're talking about using images in support situations. The need to explain clearly what this is about and provides them.

  • @MARKHENSTROM
    @MARKHENSTROM22 күн бұрын

    I remember hearing people who were running ancient versions of Photoshop - saying they saw no reason to upgrade. They must be laughing their heads off now.

  • @TheJeffbarrett

    @TheJeffbarrett

    22 күн бұрын

    I love Adobe X - it was free then and never disappoints.

  • @the_kombinator

    @the_kombinator

    22 күн бұрын

    For personal use, all my adobe shit is hacked, or on ancient computers (Photoshop 4 on a 486, which I actually use)

  • @mightylink65

    @mightylink65

    22 күн бұрын

    There's no reason to upgrade. Adobe figured out a long time ago there was nothing else they could add to their software to actually improve the quality of the images, all the file types and quality settings and lossless compression was already supported forever ago, so now all Adobe does is add gimmicks and bullshit to their software that you don't need.

  • @TallulahSoie

    @TallulahSoie

    22 күн бұрын

    I have a version from the late 90s and last I checked it still worked fine. Although, I stopped using it a long time ago and it resides on an ancient machine. Still have the discs and backups, too.

  • @bowlofsoup7721

    @bowlofsoup7721

    22 күн бұрын

    Its true, most of the old versions are good enough to most things.

  • @atelierloveli
    @atelierloveli21 күн бұрын

    Adobe really turned their product into ransomware.

  • @seigeengine

    @seigeengine

    21 күн бұрын

    This is 100% what that is.

  • @PSUQDPICHQIEIWC

    @PSUQDPICHQIEIWC

    21 күн бұрын

    It's the hip thing to do, it seems.

  • @TrekCZ

    @TrekCZ

    21 күн бұрын

    I do not agree, they have to use excessive terms and conditions otherwise it would not be possible for their software to work as there are cloud functions (e.g they must get your data in order to do generative fill which I am using a lot). Other thing is machine learning part but you can opt out of this. Only negative thing is that content analysis is is turned on by default.

  • @TrekCZ

    @TrekCZ

    21 күн бұрын

    Adobe contant analysis FAQ: Let's say that you access Creative Cloud or Document Cloud via a personal account and prefer that Adobe doesn't analyze your content to develop and improve our products and services. In that case, you may turn off content analysis at any time from your Adobe account

  • @TrekCZ

    @TrekCZ

    21 күн бұрын

    opt out is highly important for me, because I scan confidential documents into document cloud

  • @6754bettkitty
    @6754bettkitty20 күн бұрын

    Adobe is now a ransomware company.

  • @zmortis111
    @zmortis11121 күн бұрын

    When Adobe went to the "rental software" model is when I stopped using Adobe products.

  • @jos_t_band3912

    @jos_t_band3912

    18 күн бұрын

    Most people didn’t do that.

  • @martharetallick204

    @martharetallick204

    16 күн бұрын

    Same.

  • @channelofstuff6662

    @channelofstuff6662

    13 күн бұрын

    I did.

  • @darkraven-666
    @darkraven-66621 күн бұрын

    when piracy removes the malware instead of adding it

  • @Vibycko

    @Vibycko

    21 күн бұрын

    real

  • @djkaylar454

    @djkaylar454

    20 күн бұрын

    Soo true

  • @ProGentleman

    @ProGentleman

    20 күн бұрын

    Don't even pirate this garbage. Use better software.

  • @user-pp6db2ee1g

    @user-pp6db2ee1g

    20 күн бұрын

    ​@@ProGentlemanis there anything better than substance painter ?

  • @LG1ikLx

    @LG1ikLx

    20 күн бұрын

    ​@@ProGentlemanAfter using Sony Vegas, Final Cut and Adobe. Sad to say Adobe is the best one. But pirating is probably the best option at this point. Ain't got to agree to no bs terms then 😂

  • @Snicker433
    @Snicker43321 күн бұрын

    I canceled my yearly plan and told their agent in chat to cancel the auto renew and they accepted. At the end of the year, my plan renewed... I contacted Adobe the day it renewed and they told me I had to pay out the entire year if I wanted to cancel. I told them their Agent said it wouldn't renew, they said that my plan had renewed and I would need to pay. I told them fine. I'll cancel my card and contact the ACCC (Australian Competition and Consumer Commission). Suddenly: "Here at Adobe, we value our customer's, so this one time we will wave the cancellation fee."

  • @joeblue2492

    @joeblue2492

    21 күн бұрын

    Well done I had the exact same thing happen on a mobile plan with Vodafone. As soon as I created a Complaint with the Telecons ombudsman of Australia they refunded me in 2 days

  • @andrewphoto4750

    @andrewphoto4750

    21 күн бұрын

    Fax, I had to cancel my shit one time and they made it complicated asf

  • @RAILSPIKE

    @RAILSPIKE

    20 күн бұрын

    Had a similar experience about 4 years ago, they ended up charging me a cancellation fee (2 months if I recall correctly?) instead of charging me the rest of the year. It was such a hassle to get it cancelled (and keep it cancelled) in the first place, I just took that L. Still feeling burned from that. Never going back to Adobe

  • @joannewhite7154

    @joannewhite7154

    20 күн бұрын

    Me too, deleted adobe having lost projects to them in the past.

  • @PGIxHunter

    @PGIxHunter

    20 күн бұрын

    Based

  • @MarciaFunebre
    @MarciaFunebre21 күн бұрын

    Someone please start a class action lawsuit against Adobe. I would love to join.

  • @HomeBurger

    @HomeBurger

    19 күн бұрын

    i'm sure everyone got forced into an arbitration agreement already

  • @commonwealthcommunitywatch6036

    @commonwealthcommunitywatch6036

    18 күн бұрын

    the TOS I'm sure already had a arbitration clause for some time now.

  • @Pooolj

    @Pooolj

    18 күн бұрын

    @@commonwealthcommunitywatch6036 i mean arbitration don't exist everywhere in the world we just need the EU to sue their asses into the ground

  • @HorribleHomeVideo

    @HorribleHomeVideo

    18 күн бұрын

    sign me up

  • @engineergaming1669

    @engineergaming1669

    16 күн бұрын

    @@HomeBurgerforced arbitration doesn’t really work, a lot of TOS that make companies sound invincible are just fear tactics

  • @rmg900
    @rmg90021 күн бұрын

    So here's my biggest issue. I'm a photographer, my work is generally boudoir, my clients pay me in part for my discretion. Now my work is exposed to a third party which according to the terms is now possibly being a person. So legally I can't use their products now.

  • @rmg900

    @rmg900

    20 күн бұрын

    To clarify this could potentially be against Revenge Porn Laws.

  • @northofbrandon

    @northofbrandon

    16 күн бұрын

    Doesn't this only apply to work that you've uploaded to Creative Cloud? If you turn that off and keep your files local, I don't think this would apply.

  • @rmg900

    @rmg900

    16 күн бұрын

    @northofbrandon not according to their terms of service. Remember, it's cloud based software. You can't use it without an online connection.

  • @northofbrandon

    @northofbrandon

    16 күн бұрын

    @@rmg900 Maybe I'm missing something: I use premiere pro and lightroom all the time without an internet connection - via the 'standalone' apps. Yes I pay for them.

  • @TunaIRL

    @TunaIRL

    16 күн бұрын

    Part of the reason I generally dislike Lous' interpretations of events like these is that he doesn't seem to actually research past headlines to make a video. These clauses have existed for more than a decade on different platforms. Even KZread has licences to every video and comment you post here. In Adobes case when you use the share feature you just so happen to be usually sharing private files. Which is why adobe needs a licence for those files for the share feature to work. That's pretty much it. The real problem that arose from this outrage is the fact that the TOS legalese is simply too complex for most people to parse and understand. Even in this case Adobe very clearly implied this particular update was a small update to an already existing clause, people thought the clause was added in this update. This is how minimal effort people put into reading and understanding. It's also why what actually needs to and will happen is that terms overall will get more understandable by laymen. Or there will be more examples dropped around in there.

  • @ArvexYT
    @ArvexYT21 күн бұрын

    Let's also not forget that Adobe is giving themselves permission to violate every NDA any of their users are under.

  • @Abattoir23

    @Abattoir23

    21 күн бұрын

    This! I hope they get sued.

  • @Fatty420

    @Fatty420

    21 күн бұрын

    I suspect the number of legal threats they get from professionals for potentially putting them in a position to get sued themselves by clients and collaborators will cause them to revert this or add the option to opt out.

  • @3DEMS.

    @3DEMS.

    21 күн бұрын

    @@Fatty420 I bet there will not be any legal threat to adobe... many people with NDAs have already accepted without even reading it

  • @robmcd

    @robmcd

    21 күн бұрын

    Making a thumbnail for a KZread video that’s under NDA, editing a video that has content that’s under NDA, viewing a PDF that’s under NDA… holy smokes

  • @firetruck988

    @firetruck988

    21 күн бұрын

    Let's see how that holds up in court.

  • @user-sp8sw7vt5k
    @user-sp8sw7vt5k21 күн бұрын

    It used to be "if you aren't paying, you're the product" Now companies expect you to PAY TO BE the product

  • @richardlloyd2589

    @richardlloyd2589

    21 күн бұрын

    Yup, you’re OUR product!

  • @josephbrandenburg4373

    @josephbrandenburg4373

    21 күн бұрын

    And ironically, it's those of us who don't (have to) pay, who use open source software, who have the real ownership.

  • @govcorpwatch

    @govcorpwatch

    21 күн бұрын

    It was only a matter of time. The momentum didn't stop with simply monetizing your time for their profit, now we have to monetize our own time and effocts for their profit.

  • @kinezumi

    @kinezumi

    21 күн бұрын

    Now it's "If you aren't pirating, you're the product" There's some exceptions, CSP is still safe for example, but from any of the big companies... I remember the days when finding cracked versions of software was sketchy and risked getting malware snuck in; now you have to find the crack to get the malware removed from the official releases.

  • @BinaryDood

    @BinaryDood

    21 күн бұрын

    ​@@kinezumicsp isn't safe

  • @gabrielgostelidelacruz6235
    @gabrielgostelidelacruz623518 күн бұрын

    I'm a high school computer science teacher, and this year I've had to remove Adobe CS from the curriculum. Too many issues with the cloud, payment errors, warning screens on paid items, crashing, etc.

  • @zdenochara5391
    @zdenochara539119 күн бұрын

    I cancelled my adobe subscription the MINUTE I opened it up and saw that notice. I refuse to give any more of my money to people who treat me like that.

  • @GermanCodeMonkey
    @GermanCodeMonkey22 күн бұрын

    Adobe is, with that, not for professionals anymore.

  • @alexdrockhound9497

    @alexdrockhound9497

    21 күн бұрын

    Yep. There’s things that businesses work on that they legally can’t share, like medical patient information, or lawyers, where they may be editing PDFs with adobe software. Those people will not be happy with this.

  • @MaddJakd

    @MaddJakd

    21 күн бұрын

    ​@@alexdrockhound9497 I'd argue that was true the moment they forced CC

  • @FitzChivalryFarseer2

    @FitzChivalryFarseer2

    21 күн бұрын

    Even if not by legal and law standards or complying with HIPAA... Creating art/media and then having somebody just be able to steal it from your personal computer and claim copyright on it if they so effing chose to cause this nonsense would let them just claim whatever is yours as theirs

  • @GermanCodeMonkey

    @GermanCodeMonkey

    21 күн бұрын

    @@MaddJakd That was the beginning, for sure.

  • @TheFPSPower

    @TheFPSPower

    21 күн бұрын

    Dude all the artists that are already pissed off from all the AI training that has been done on their stuff without consent will be fuming after learning about this.

  • @Pewafamath
    @Pewafamath22 күн бұрын

    I must be insane because if something is training off of my work I expect to be paid.

  • @xzst

    @xzst

    21 күн бұрын

    Id expect the service to be FREE if they are gonna use MY DATA to harvest. Instead you are "allowed" to pay a subscription for this crap.

  • @solandri69

    @solandri69

    21 күн бұрын

    I'd expect to be paid too. But this ship sailed around 2010. Google was capturing WiFi hotspot SSIDs with their street view cars, to build up a way to determine location without GPS. Their cars ended up capturing a bit more than SSIDs, and they were hauled into court by the EU for it and fined (the DOJ fined them too after they began paying the EU fines). At the same time, Apple was trying to do the same thing to prep for their release of Apple Maps. But instead of sending their employees around the world to collect WiFi SSID info like Google did, they just changed the terms of service on the iPhone allowing them to download your location and WiFi history data. Basically, every iPhone owner gave up their privacy and worked for Apple (for free) to collect this info for them. The EU said nary a word about it. Sending the message that if you put in the work to do it yourself, you're liable and can be fined. But it's OK to just take (steal) this info from your customers.

  • @Moe_Posting_Chad

    @Moe_Posting_Chad

    21 күн бұрын

    @@xzst Imagine being an artist that invested in apple and adobe, and to this day, even in spite of this, defends them as the superior function/product. I shit you not they do this. Of course it is always the starving artist teenage 20 something loser that will never get anywhere. That's always the kind of person defending apple and adobe. Head in the clouds, doesn't learn a single fundamental. (Then wonders why people tell them their art sucks)

  • @Pewafamath

    @Pewafamath

    21 күн бұрын

    No compromises, no free software should do this.

  • @nightelfuser

    @nightelfuser

    21 күн бұрын

    Adobe is overestimating their relevance. There are a TON of alternatives that cost next to nothing, and offer almost the same quality as Adobe products. Of course, there's always the 🏴‍☠route.

  • @LiveAndLetLive2024
    @LiveAndLetLive202420 күн бұрын

    I used their creative suite for almost everything during my college years, and ultimately ditched them due to exactly these issues. They have no respect or appreciation for the creative types who enabled their success. This was cathartic to listen to.

  • @Swenthorian

    @Swenthorian

    12 күн бұрын

    What do you use now?

  • @meatheadz4468
    @meatheadz446821 күн бұрын

    This is a NDA nightmare, a violation of privacy in so many levels. As someone who’s been in tech since the 90s, I feel like for every single service that you have to purchase for work or pleasure nowadays comes with strings that are just not worth the hassle. I crave ownership of the things that I purchase - to use how I see fit and without any strings attached.

  • @Sonario648

    @Sonario648

    15 күн бұрын

    Switch to open source alternatives. Blender, Gimp, Krita, LibreOffice..... they're the only ones that give true freedom with no strings attached.

  • @jameseverett9037

    @jameseverett9037

    13 күн бұрын

    This is where ESG is going. You'll own nothing, and be..... "happy".

  • @cymeriandesigns
    @cymeriandesigns21 күн бұрын

    The federal law should be changed to say that if a company wants to change the terms on you to continue using their product, you're entitled to get your data back AND A FULL REFUND of whatever you paid them under the old terms. You want to amend the contract we both agreed to at the outset of our relationship? Fine, let's negotiate. Otherwise continue at the old terms or fork over all the cash, because you're about to be in breach of contract and I want liquidated damages.

  • @Art-zs6sl

    @Art-zs6sl

    21 күн бұрын

    This is the thing I moan about to anyone who will listen. Expensive software is a joke until they sort this out.

  • @seigeengine

    @seigeengine

    21 күн бұрын

    It should be illegal to hold your property hostage from you. It should be illegal to deny someone use of something they've paid for because one party decided to change terms. It should be illegal to distort a product into a service when there is no need for it to be one. There is no reason for most of this software to require an internet connection to function. It's not a necessity of what's being offered, it's malicious and extortionate design.

  • @user-fo1zc7tp6w

    @user-fo1zc7tp6w

    21 күн бұрын

    @@seigeengine they can rebuttal that by saying, we want to make sure the programs we made are used with the correct intention. Hence updates, when you accepted the original terms and service it does state and always has that you agree to any changes made to the software. I agree with you but law is literally written by companies and their government cronies.

  • @AC3handle

    @AC3handle

    21 күн бұрын

    if anything, they should also pay for interest on the amount you paid.

  • @seigeengine

    @seigeengine

    21 күн бұрын

    @@user-fo1zc7tp6w No they can't. They have no right to moderate how their products are used.

  • @robertramsey8871
    @robertramsey887120 күн бұрын

    That is exactly precisely what this is. Anti-competitive hostage-taking out of nowhere.

  • @bufferglitch
    @bufferglitch17 күн бұрын

    I cancelled my CC permanently after over two decades of Adobe. Everyone should. Affinity is better in every way.

  • @Plus_Escapee
    @Plus_Escapee22 күн бұрын

    Adobe has lost it completely. This leaves your creative projects so vulnerable to theft, loss, and slower workflow, that it is surely a sign of gross incompetence.

  • @AcornElectron

    @AcornElectron

    22 күн бұрын

    Incompetence or greed?

  • @anthoniG

    @anthoniG

    22 күн бұрын

    @@AcornElectron both

  • @ndnow12

    @ndnow12

    22 күн бұрын

    They never had it. They've always been anti competition and are one of the main reasons why ms windows didn't go under when linux was clearly the better os choice for everything.

  • @TransformXRED

    @TransformXRED

    22 күн бұрын

    I mean, they steal your work already for years. It's by design. It's pure exploitation. People pay them to get their personal data ransacked.

  • @Mario583a

    @Mario583a

    22 күн бұрын

    You made this? I made this.

  • @discordantduck1808
    @discordantduck180822 күн бұрын

    where the HELL are the lawmakers in ANY of this? 20 years ago there may have been an excuse for a government full of technical incompetents but the fact we still have to see headlines like this is mind numbing

  • @HarbingerYT

    @HarbingerYT

    22 күн бұрын

    Lobbying.

  • @jasonburris334

    @jasonburris334

    22 күн бұрын

    All bought off.

  • @LudwigVaanArthans

    @LudwigVaanArthans

    22 күн бұрын

    Land of the fee, home of the grave

  • @neilarcher2551

    @neilarcher2551

    22 күн бұрын

    Because the ones from 20 years ago are still in office and frequently senile. Mitch freezing for instance.

  • @whoreshoe

    @whoreshoe

    22 күн бұрын

    the US is a corporate communist. free money for large companies

  • @fanjan7527
    @fanjan752721 күн бұрын

    Adobe is literally with this move....RANSOMEWARE

  • @Yomush
    @Yomush19 күн бұрын

    That's what happens when you say "it doesn't affect me" one too many times

  • @enocksimbaya367
    @enocksimbaya36721 күн бұрын

    By that logic, Adobe should be paying their customers to use their work to improve their products.

  • @GrimK77

    @GrimK77

    19 күн бұрын

    They are not customers anymore - they are employees. Adobe is illegally circumventing labor laws. It's a matter if a government and/or unions are willing to take Adobe asses to court.

  • @altrag

    @altrag

    18 күн бұрын

    You don't understand how capitalism works. Companies are people, and humans are chattel allowed to exist only so long as they increase profits for the people.

  • @GrimK77

    @GrimK77

    18 күн бұрын

    ​@@altrag bs propaganda... your lazy description better fits all other systems, especially your favourite communism

  • @alonsoACR

    @alonsoACR

    17 күн бұрын

    ​@@altrag what a weird take I don't see how socialism/communism would be better in that regard, except that instead of being chattel for the company, you're chattel to the State (or Society/Community, same thing). Of the two, historically, neoliberal states had more care about the rights of the individual. Fascism and Communism put the "good of the people" before your own, and that's beyond disgusting. In Capitalism you at least could theoretically quit and open your own coffee shop lmao. What system do you suggest that wouldn't see humans like chattel?

  • @MK_ULTRA420

    @MK_ULTRA420

    12 күн бұрын

    @@altrag Idk why you think socialism is any better. It's always been worse.

  • @TempestTossedWaters
    @TempestTossedWaters21 күн бұрын

    Saying you either give me all your stuff or you never get your stuff back again is basically robbery.

  • @LESLEYYY0

    @LESLEYYY0

    21 күн бұрын

    No, you can submit a GDPR data request. But yes, still unethical

  • @kangirigungi

    @kangirigungi

    21 күн бұрын

    @@LESLEYYY0 Only if you live in the EU. Anywhere else, you are fucked.

  • @NightridingDoom

    @NightridingDoom

    21 күн бұрын

    not basically. it is robbery. but it is legal unless challenged in court. who has 1 billion dollans?

  • @kangirigungi

    @kangirigungi

    20 күн бұрын

    @@LESLEYYY0 Unfortunately, only if you are in the EU. Also, what is it with YT deleting my comments?

  • @IdiotamSpielen

    @IdiotamSpielen

    20 күн бұрын

    It's called ransomware...

  • @coolworx
    @coolworx19 күн бұрын

    "You will own nothing - including your creative output - and be happy"

  • @spudpud-T67

    @spudpud-T67

    15 күн бұрын

    You will not own yourself or your happiness and you will be h̶a̶p̶p̶y̶ .

  • @jameseverett9037

    @jameseverett9037

    13 күн бұрын

    correction, you will be "happy".

  • @jaybuck4951
    @jaybuck495118 күн бұрын

    Just cancelled my Adobe subscription. Screw them.

  • @N1withaskillet
    @N1withaskillet21 күн бұрын

    These are the same companies who lost their minds over IP violations. Yet their AI gets to access/steal YOUR IP.

  • @jer1776

    @jer1776

    21 күн бұрын

    "Access to free stuff for me, not for thee"

  • @wykydytron

    @wykydytron

    21 күн бұрын

    Adobe was always evil. I lived near cro of adobe branch in my country, he was perfectly representing adobe, huge dickwad, was driving ultra expensive cars some for 3m+ while laying minimal wage to regular workers. Eventually got arrested for tax evasion...

  • @insoporous9978

    @insoporous9978

    21 күн бұрын

    If my IP is yours to take as you please, then yours is mine to take as I please.

  • @burnburn645

    @burnburn645

    21 күн бұрын

    @@jer1776 yarr

  • @ProleDaddy

    @ProleDaddy

    21 күн бұрын

    All of capitalism is hypocrisy.

  • @Person01234
    @Person0123421 күн бұрын

    A contract signed under duress (for example your rightful property being held hostage) can be voided in court. Remember this.

  • @robertsmith2956

    @robertsmith2956

    21 күн бұрын

    I laugh at the binding arbitration clause on MANDATORY car insurance.

  • @AC3handle

    @AC3handle

    21 күн бұрын

    This is assuming those of us out there can PAY for court.

  • @3DEMS.

    @3DEMS.

    21 күн бұрын

    sure, but I may not have 1M$ to try and sue Adobe for 3-5years until they find a stupid crack in the law and make me loose

  • @Person01234

    @Person01234

    21 күн бұрын

    ​@@3DEMS. The fact that Americans won't fix their court system is astounding to me, but this advice is not exclusive to the US, most developed countries have similar laws. And class action lawsuits exist as well. If you can't afford to fight them in court then they can do whatever they want to you at any time without your permission anyway, what you signed or didn't sign is irrelevant.

  • @doltBmB

    @doltBmB

    21 күн бұрын

    A contract can only be enforced in favor of corporations and not individuals, remember this.

  • @ScottNotAvailable
    @ScottNotAvailable21 күн бұрын

    I like how Audible gives you access to your purchased books even after you end a subscription.

  • @RossDredge

    @RossDredge

    20 күн бұрын

    Libation will let you download your audible audiobooks to your PC for truly permanent ownership. I like audible too, but I've been burned enough in the past by other companies to know better. Never trust an online service to be able to provide you with something you purchased in perpetuity.

  • @firstuser5448
    @firstuser544816 күн бұрын

    Adobe must be SEETHING they made the PDF into an open standard imagining all the royalties they could have raked in by now.

  • @yaemma8803
    @yaemma880322 күн бұрын

    Imagine if when you bought a drawer from IKEA they reserved the rights to break into your house and steal/copy/photograph what you put inside your drawer at any time at any date Edit: Please stop commenting "Erm actually" type comments. We get it, you're an intellectual

  • @asialsky

    @asialsky

    21 күн бұрын

    You spelled Amazon wrong.

  • @OldBenOne

    @OldBenOne

    21 күн бұрын

    Yes, of course, it will improve your drawer user experience. Can't wait 'till the mattress companies get on board :)

  • @KiroFlutterwing

    @KiroFlutterwing

    21 күн бұрын

    no thats not what this is. This is a IKEA Employee sitting in your room, waiting and looking directly at everything you put in the drawer, to copy and steal it.

  • @simonspacek3670

    @simonspacek3670

    21 күн бұрын

    No, they install camera in your drawer for marketing research to better understand what people like you put in drawers to design better drawers in the future.

  • @Hamachingo

    @Hamachingo

    21 күн бұрын

    @@OldBenOnengl I wouldn’t mind a smart mattress that recommends me to get a new one right before my back starts to go bad because the mattress is shot or one that goes: it appears you learned new skills and positions, the mattress you currently have is only giving you 60% of the pleasure you could have.

  • @jnemeth
    @jnemeth22 күн бұрын

    You know what people don't have this issues? People that pirate Adobe

  • @i_might_be_lying

    @i_might_be_lying

    21 күн бұрын

    Yeah, people that pirate Adobe have problems with russian botnets instead. Or more precisely, they become a part of one.

  • @DarkForce2024

    @DarkForce2024

    21 күн бұрын

    Or people like me, who, don't use Adobe products anyway. I don't even use their PDF viewer, Firefox will load PDFs right in the browser, that's good enough for me.

  • @dominic.h.3363

    @dominic.h.3363

    21 күн бұрын

    @@i_might_be_lying Ask me if I care that I am giving up hardware resources for computation, if I don't have to trade my private data for it.

  • @jacksonfilm

    @jacksonfilm

    21 күн бұрын

    I have a theory that Adobe was happy to allow piracy for many years so they became the default software for most creatives, and now we’re trapped with subscriptions forever and this cloud crap, and it’d be a big effort to avoid their software if you’re a professional

  • @dominic.h.3363

    @dominic.h.3363

    21 күн бұрын

    It's so fucking great that my comment gets deleted by youtube but I keep getting the notifications for new comments...

  • @user-pw7dm8gh5z
    @user-pw7dm8gh5z20 күн бұрын

    Ross-man what a statement mate. "WHEN I HAVE SOMETHING IN MY DRAWER, THAT BELONGS TO ME, IT IS NOT FOR ANYONE ELSE TO LEARN FROM"...Wow just wow that couldn't have been any more spot on!! They are literally figuratively walking right into our houses, and snooping through all our stuff🤬

  • @IvanIvanov-ww8yl
    @IvanIvanov-ww8yl20 күн бұрын

    Most of the people I know don't care about their privacy when data is collected by big companies, but when I collect their data they are angry about it

  • @jameseverett9037

    @jameseverett9037

    13 күн бұрын

    If only we could have cameras in the back rooms where congress makes deals with each other.

  • @f8haus
    @f8haus21 күн бұрын

    It's not just that they're scanning and using it, but that THEY GIVE THEMSELVES THE RIGHT TO OWN A WORLDWIDE LICENSE TO IT. Section 4.2!

  • @hugofontes5708

    @hugofontes5708

    21 күн бұрын

    If this is indeed serious, holy shit, no professional can touch adobe to work with anymore, wtf

  • @ClearGalaxies

    @ClearGalaxies

    21 күн бұрын

    Insane.

  • @bcj842

    @bcj842

    21 күн бұрын

    They couldn't possibly get away with that. Other Fortune 500 legal teams would throw a complete fit. Or at least they should.

  • @VideoGameStarChannelSupreme

    @VideoGameStarChannelSupreme

    21 күн бұрын

    So effectively, by using Adobe's software, your copyright kinda becomes void since they can reproduce it and probably pass it onto a generative AI model. And since AI generated works have been declared to not have copyright as far as I know, then yeah, you're also losing the right to defend your work from everyone.

  • @lisam5802

    @lisam5802

    21 күн бұрын

    damn, if adobe was bought out they'd own like half of the world's intellectual property since now.

  • @JohnSmith-vk9ds
    @JohnSmith-vk9ds21 күн бұрын

    This update is so much worse than this video goes into. In theory, this would only apply to Adobe's visual editing software, but since this update was in their General User Agreement it actually applies to all of their software, including Acrobat and Reader. So they are giving themselves permission to read your PDF's as well. This means any company that operates under any form of NDA is now violating their contracts by using Acrobat. This includes all government agencies as well. All hospitals and other medical care facilities that utilize electronic health records that involve utilize Adobe Acrobat for PDF's are now in violation of HIPAA. Entire industries are going to have to switch their software until the legalities of this are fully untangled.

  • @cryptic_daemon_

    @cryptic_daemon_

    18 күн бұрын

    I hope their arrogance will land them in court

  • @yewcookies

    @yewcookies

    18 күн бұрын

    This was the first thing I thought of. Can't open PDFs on Acrobat if they have patient data now because they contain PHI.

  • @elladesigns9609

    @elladesigns9609

    17 күн бұрын

    They are also in violation of GDPR. Fines incoming.

  • @bythesea760

    @bythesea760

    16 күн бұрын

    The horror🤯

  • @mithicash1444

    @mithicash1444

    16 күн бұрын

    This could be a massive issue. I can bring some perspective on the government side. I work at a VA hospital and the federal government has a massive contract to provide basic acrobat reader functionality to all of our computers. I think this kind of updates is why we often use older versions of the software, for example we are still running a 2023 version of Adobe acrobat. I am pretty sure they are not allowed to change the terms of service at any time like they do with private consumers because as per the contract they need to provide a certain version of their application. I imagine they would be extra careful with government agencies to avoid getting on their radar more than they need to. That being said, I am 99% sure they would try to pull this off with any private entity that doesn't have the power to push back.

  • @TrevorsBench
    @TrevorsBench21 күн бұрын

    I love how these companies think they can do criminal type shit as long as it's written into their TOS giving them permission Don't stand for this and reject them. Do not pay for these services. Stop being held hostage

  • @EdnovStormbrewer
    @EdnovStormbrewer18 күн бұрын

    GIMP software is the reason why I stayed away from Adobe and got things done.

  • @jameseverett9037

    @jameseverett9037

    13 күн бұрын

    I wish they'd simplify Gimp or make it more intuitive. I cannot find my around around that mess of a program. It takes me oodles of clicks and steps just to save a file, and not 1 step is intuitive.

  • @billgrey

    @billgrey

    9 күн бұрын

    Try out the Affinity suite. Beautiful, logical interfaces that work seamlessly together. I dumped Adobe almost a decade ago.

  • @elchupacabra683
    @elchupacabra68321 күн бұрын

    2 Years From Now these companies are going to be saying "You don't actually own any of the files that you've created on your computer. They're actually our property but you can rent them as long as you subscribe to our software."

  • @JamesDavidWalley

    @JamesDavidWalley

    19 күн бұрын

    These new terms grant them a perpetual, royalty-free license to everything you create using their software, including the right to "sublicense" (i.e. sell) it to others without paying you anything.

  • @Lmnop913

    @Lmnop913

    18 күн бұрын

    Wow… wouldn’t that be something!! I’ll make my calendar for that.

  • @Animal_lives_matter

    @Animal_lives_matter

    17 күн бұрын

    2070 paradigm shift, Adobe is "free to play" but artists must produce content for Adobe to cover the cost of software updates. Failure to meet your monthly monetization targets will "default" your subscription contract (now classed as a financial loan according to the IRS) and they repossess your home as collateral

  • @oatmeal4652

    @oatmeal4652

    16 күн бұрын

    That's what photobucket did once they held everyone's pictures for ransom.

  • @LancesArmorStriking

    @LancesArmorStriking

    15 күн бұрын

    ​@@Animal_lives_matter Don't give them ideas please

  • @digitalis2977
    @digitalis297721 күн бұрын

    Time for all the hospitals, clinics, and insurance companies to *IMMEDIATELY* dump Adobe. There's absolutely NO WAY this can be HIPAA Compliant.

  • @Moe_Posting_Chad

    @Moe_Posting_Chad

    21 күн бұрын

    HIPPA isn't a real thing. Let me explain. You see HIPPA compliance matters for you. A peon. Your boss. A peon. Your boss's boss. Ect.... All the way up to the real owners and leadership. Them? They trade secrets, drugs, children, data, any commodity that peons would get prison for. You need to understand. You have never and will never even meet the real power this world. They violate all laws, oaths, and promises as a matter of fact.

  • @AbdulBido

    @AbdulBido

    21 күн бұрын

    Lookup BAA for HIPAA compliance.. You'll get your answer

  • @MicahBBurke

    @MicahBBurke

    21 күн бұрын

    Hospitals won't be using Adobe products to store their images in the cloud, that's already in law.

  • @Moe_Posting_Chad

    @Moe_Posting_Chad

    21 күн бұрын

    @@MicahBBurke And who is enforcing that law? *There is no rule of law in America, and you seem to not realize this yet. Yet...*

  • @UncleKennysPlace

    @UncleKennysPlace

    21 күн бұрын

    @@Moe_Posting_Chad I have experience regarding that; hospitals and other health care providers _absolutely_ use encryption tools that are HIPAA-compliant. They have much to lose.

  • @ShadyTalesyt
    @ShadyTalesyt14 күн бұрын

    i love having people continuing to call this shit out, keep up the good work!

  • @Mr.Wizard
    @Mr.Wizard16 күн бұрын

    I stopped Adobe back when they first required cloud... Same with Microsoft 360.

  • @vinny5203
    @vinny520322 күн бұрын

    This is going to turn into a security nightmare for businesses

  • @commentinglife6175

    @commentinglife6175

    22 күн бұрын

    That's actually my biggest hope with this. Given some of the very large creative companies that I know use their products, this has to be a legal can of worms for Adobe just waiting to blow!

  • @user-dr7xs5sk6r

    @user-dr7xs5sk6r

    21 күн бұрын

    @@commentinglife6175 This won't happen with large companies, unless the large companies sign off on it. They are likely to make an exception to large companies, no?

  • @commentinglife6175

    @commentinglife6175

    21 күн бұрын

    @@user-dr7xs5sk6r I'm betting you are correct, but we shall see. Can also hope those agreements leak so us plebes can see the crap that Adobe is claiming access to that they agree not to do for the big companies.

  • @erkinalp

    @erkinalp

    21 күн бұрын

    @@commentinglife6175 adobe intends that, they don't want their competitors to use photoshop

  • @Moe_Posting_Chad

    @Moe_Posting_Chad

    21 күн бұрын

    Security is a fucking joke. How many times you get letters this year telling you that there was a huuuuuuuuuge data breach about 3 years ago and they identified that your account has been affected? How many letters? I've gotten 12 for the year 2023 so far! Still getting 2023's letters in 2024! Security is an absolute *L I E.* What it really does is keep outside criminals from looking at what the internal criminals are stealing.

  • @Vintersvengeance
    @Vintersvengeance21 күн бұрын

    For anyone trying to cancel their Adobe subscription and are encountering the early cancelation fee, there's a pretty simple way to bypass that. All you need to do is change your current plan to another plan and then cancel the new plan. According to Adobe's own terms you have 14 days to request a refund. For reference I'm in Europe, so I'm not sure if this works everywhere, but it's worth a shot.

  • @stevepreskitt283

    @stevepreskitt283

    21 күн бұрын

    I'd also talk to a lawyer about it. In the U.S. a material change in the terms of a contract is usually a solid justification for termination, but I'm not a lawyer and I don't know what all is in Adobe's agreement.

  • @MrProg-ey3tl

    @MrProg-ey3tl

    21 күн бұрын

    There's a cancellation fee??????? I'm so glad I never payed for any Adobe products.

  • @ThirdEchoMedia

    @ThirdEchoMedia

    21 күн бұрын

    The fact there's even a fucking cancellation fee is wild.

  • @aCiD0L2

    @aCiD0L2

    21 күн бұрын

    Could also use a virtual credit card that links to your bank, and then just cancel that credit card.

  • @xanderplayz3446

    @xanderplayz3446

    21 күн бұрын

    I would just chargeback the fee.

  • @I_reject_your_reality
    @I_reject_your_reality18 күн бұрын

    I have been using Windows and Photoshop since their first versions. But this is it, Microsoft + Adobe just made me take the leap to Linux. This is a pretty crazy world we live in. Thank you Louis and the whole open source community. Never going back to big corps.

  • @jameseverett9037

    @jameseverett9037

    13 күн бұрын

    What linux program will do the job that photoshop does? I'd like to switch too.

  • @tomiyadude246
    @tomiyadude2468 күн бұрын

    Amen to that. I took Adobe out of my life when they arbitrarily canceled my software license to try to force me into their subscription service. They claimed it was a three-year educational license, which it was not.

  • @ThinkBeforeYouSleepYT
    @ThinkBeforeYouSleepYT21 күн бұрын

    I appreciate it when Louis sacrifices monetization so he can call the people at Adobe a bunch of grapists. Worth it.

  • @user-fo1zc7tp6w

    @user-fo1zc7tp6w

    21 күн бұрын

    110% worth it. What's a few grand when the company is making millions of off predatory behavior.

  • @Max.Paprika

    @Max.Paprika

    21 күн бұрын

    A fitting description. It does feel like we're all being graped in the mouth.

  • @OiIMan

    @OiIMan

    21 күн бұрын

    Look, it's a loser grifter!

  • @wanderlust0120

    @wanderlust0120

    21 күн бұрын

    What is grapist?

  • @bruce_just_

    @bruce_just_

    21 күн бұрын

    @@wanderlust0120the “g” is silent - what word do you have now?

  • @BR1.618
    @BR1.61822 күн бұрын

    Had to quickly make a job yesterday on Photoshop and I was slapped in the face with a forced arbitration popup that blocks me from using Photoshop. To tell you I was pissed off is an understatement. Blocked all adobe services in hosts and yohoho, fuck you Adobe.

  • @seanfaherty

    @seanfaherty

    21 күн бұрын

    I use GIMP

  • @SkyfishArt

    @SkyfishArt

    21 күн бұрын

    try krita it is better for painting

  • @haraldschmidt8828

    @haraldschmidt8828

    21 күн бұрын

    @@seanfaherty Gimp? Really now? You obviously have no idea about Photoshop and its functions. And no, I'm not in favor of Adobe's blackmail.

  • @seanfaherty

    @seanfaherty

    21 күн бұрын

    @@haraldschmidt8828 none whatsoever. If I want an image I draw or paint it then digitize. What I do works for me. I’m sure paying through the ass works for you. I did try that Krita for a bit. I prefer oils

  • @ukaszpluszynski8447

    @ukaszpluszynski8447

    21 күн бұрын

    @@haraldschmidt8828 Yeah, GIMP sucks so hard that I can't believe people still promote it. If you want drawing, you get Krita. If you want vectors you get Inkscape. But GIMP? This thing is like a monument to all of the issues with switching to open source.

  • @jerbsherb4391
    @jerbsherb439120 күн бұрын

    Adobe has always been notorous for being extremely difficult to use by customers. Their software was pirated so much that they had to make the lives of actual paying customers miserable. This has to be a nail in the coffin for them

  • @cjgetsuspended
    @cjgetsuspended17 күн бұрын

    Many legal company start as honest business and turns into a big evil

  • @sheriff2077
    @sheriff207722 күн бұрын

    This is a good thing actually, it gave me the final push i needed to cancel my adobe subscriptions. I'm finally free

  • @Boz1211111

    @Boz1211111

    21 күн бұрын

    happy

  • @geoffreybassett6741

    @geoffreybassett6741

    21 күн бұрын

    Same.

  • @Versudan
    @Versudan21 күн бұрын

    Worst part is? Not a single company that does this waits for you to click 'accept'. The moment that update went live, your data was scraped, whether you agree or not. No development company ties the kick off of new functionality to the 'accept' button on T&C's.

  • @joeblue2492

    @joeblue2492

    21 күн бұрын

    Should be legislated ? I feel the Adobe ‘s of this world rely on only a tiny % of their users reading changes to the agreement

  • @kotlolish

    @kotlolish

    21 күн бұрын

    @@joeblue2492 This is litterly against the law in a lot of countries outside the US. Adobe will have to either end business in those countries or else be fined millions of dollars or undo this policy. Infact... they didn't announce this when you installed the program, therefore.... it's also against EU regulation.

  • @jason2mate

    @jason2mate

    21 күн бұрын

    Oh please, they didn't wait for this T&C to go out, they were probably already doing this for months, and are just now getting around to actually telling people.

  • @the80386

    @the80386

    20 күн бұрын

    @@jason2mate exactly. and that's why it was 'accept or else'. because the decision was taken (and acted upon) long ago.

  • @flalspspsl6858

    @flalspspsl6858

    19 күн бұрын

    @@kotlolish what do you mean installed.. it's cloud software

  • @innercynic2784
    @innercynic278414 күн бұрын

    Damn! Well... I for one am glad people are waking up to this criminal behavior. This is simply theft.

  • @specthegod
    @specthegod21 күн бұрын

    I just signed in to say thanks Louis. Thanks for always being on the side of the people and having our backs as much as you can and know how.

  • @BryantAvant
    @BryantAvant21 күн бұрын

    "You'll own nothing, and you'll be happy." Including your own ideas, creations and the labor thereof.

  • @aflockofconnivingmagpies3490

    @aflockofconnivingmagpies3490

    21 күн бұрын

    And your files on your personal computer too apparently

  • @sianais

    @sianais

    21 күн бұрын

    The sick part is that the next move is to use your sht to drive you out of business. I didn't think it was possible to be more destructive than amazon was to small business. At least you could use it to widen your reach. These mfs are taking the entire industry with them. When nobody but stragglers are employed, who the hell will be buying their shit? After firing all the office workers, the designers, and most of the programmers, who will be buying the products? Even plumbers won't make money when nobody can afford them or end up homeless. Are businesses really that blinded by greed that they have completely forgotten how they make money?

  • @pentachronic
    @pentachronic21 күн бұрын

    Adobe is about to get a Class Action suit against them…..

  • @Coasterdude02149

    @Coasterdude02149

    20 күн бұрын

    I certainly hope so

  • @pete5405

    @pete5405

    20 күн бұрын

    haha yeah sure 🤡

  • @Kokoi58

    @Kokoi58

    20 күн бұрын

    ​@@pete5405haha sure 🐈

  • @lindanorris2455

    @lindanorris2455

    19 күн бұрын

    GOOD!

  • @tokul76

    @tokul76

    19 күн бұрын

    Only sharks in suits benefit from class action suits.

  • @gordonramsay8351
    @gordonramsay835118 күн бұрын

    In a few years you'll have teddy bears being sold with cameras and machine learning to improve their product.

  • @RealDaveTheFreak
    @RealDaveTheFreak19 күн бұрын

    So glad I made the switch to Affinity and DaVinci Resolve before these changes. Dang... ... I so used to love Photoshop. 😭

  • @camdynkellett6782
    @camdynkellett678222 күн бұрын

    Adobe is one of the most consistent companies in the software industry.... Consistently ruining the users experience with 20+ year old code while charging increasing prices all the time while doing their best to take every penny from your wallet

  • @johnwenzel2003
    @johnwenzel200321 күн бұрын

    That close button literally makes it extortion.

  • @vuwanrai56
    @vuwanrai566 күн бұрын

    I was about to buy Adobe's Lightroom subscription when I found videos like yours regarding its privacy policy, I am now withholding the purchase till the privacy mud clears up

  • @gretchen0331

    @gretchen0331

    4 күн бұрын

    Uhm you might want to look into other programs like affinity. Adobe is raising their monthly subscription prices on July 24th!! So that price you right now on their site is not current till they roll out their new pricing on July 24th!

  • @matthewrevell2706
    @matthewrevell27068 күн бұрын

    The minute they flooded their stock image service with AI trash is the minute I knew no one competent was behind the wheel.

  • @MarjaMariachi
    @MarjaMariachi21 күн бұрын

    Years ago I worked at the Photo Lab, and we had customers that required secrecy for everything we printed for them. Machinery parts, flanges, bolts, gonculators, encabulators, etc.; industrial espionage is a real thing. Every test print, every "too light / too dark" print, extras had to be shredded. Negatives and prints were secured. And we were a tiny lab, just me, the owner, and two other people. What Adobe is doing is the equivalent of me printing these images while a tour group walks through the building, taking pix of the prints as the swirl around in fixer, and as they come out of the dryer. Then uploading the whole lot to their friends-only Facebook.

  • @TheDiner50

    @TheDiner50

    21 күн бұрын

    Nope! IT IS WORSE! It is down the 1's and 0's COPY. Heck you might aswell call it a clean 100% theift. Only that data is duplicatable without any negative effets on the origian. Or ones called 'masters' yet now we are not allowed to call things master. It is techinclly wrong anyways in the modern digtial world. So really seems like 100% fine to copy and use as we please software too? Seems like a fair deal. No licenses or anything. Comply Adoble with our new terms and conditions. Oh? Yea that is right. You have no options here. We are leaving! I mean good girl Adoble! A theif that leaves you with a intact copy of what they stole? No randomsware or anything? I mean the program basicly is a tojan horse to being with... So I mean maybe the good boy Adoble is simply having the restrain to only inflict a single majort offence at a time. It would be funny how terms like master copies are not allowed anymore. When we are treated as if Adoble and the likes are our masters.

  • @paltryicons4610

    @paltryicons4610

    17 күн бұрын

    A Chinese / CCP tour group.

  • @stuartriley4976
    @stuartriley497621 күн бұрын

    "I changed the terms of our deal. Pray I don't change them again!" - Darth Vader

  • @musicalneptunian

    @musicalneptunian

    21 күн бұрын

    "Take off your fucking cape and mask you anti-consumer clown" - Louis

  • @UnderEu

    @UnderEu

    21 күн бұрын

    “I’m altering the deal, pray I don’t alter it any further!”

  • @Real_MisterSir

    @Real_MisterSir

    21 күн бұрын

    At least Vader is cool while saying it. Adobe is just a shit company full of greedy suits.

  • @danieln6700

    @danieln6700

    21 күн бұрын

    Nice

  • @stuartriley4976

    @stuartriley4976

    21 күн бұрын

    @@Real_MisterSir They are owners of Sith Corp. And sith is an anagram for shit.

  • @David_Kelly_SF
    @David_Kelly_SF19 күн бұрын

    I gave up Adobe years ago - they've been heading this way for a long time. I avoid "cloud" anything like the plague.

  • @PrinceWesterburg
    @PrinceWesterburg19 күн бұрын

    This contravenes the Data Protection Act in the UK 'Unauthorised Access to an Electronic System' and I've forwarded it to a mate who works at a very large car manufacturers in the states as their design teams certainly do not want anyoe seeing what they are up to!

  • @illkitty
    @illkitty21 күн бұрын

    When my son was in high school, I paid $12 a month for Adobe's annual license. Next year went to $20. After he was out of high school, Adobe decided to charge 60 a month since he was no longer a student. Nor he or I consciously agreed to the pay increase they decided to give themselves. Thankfully we were able to cancel, but that was hard. I miss the days when you just bought software, and the company didn't renegotiate the terms on you overnight.

  • @PeterNachev
    @PeterNachev21 күн бұрын

    This will not go well in the EU. It breachers the GDPR here.

  • @motinuppi

    @motinuppi

    21 күн бұрын

    The EU is too incompetent to consistently enforce anything they did that is good. The only thing we are left with are those EFFING COOKIE DIALOGS ON EVERY FFING WEBSITE WE VISIT. That kind of BS the EU can do.

  • @nyanko8972

    @nyanko8972

    21 күн бұрын

    I should really move to the eu….

  • @Real_MisterSir

    @Real_MisterSir

    21 күн бұрын

    Yea this gonna be an utter shitshow here in EU. However, I'm probably still gonna pirate it at the end of the year since they also decided to arbitrarily up their license prices out of nowhere.. Fuck that. Adobe can go suck a dick and I'll gladly inform my clients that I'm pirating the software I use in my design services.. As if Adobe is gonna even dare think the thought of spying on this stuff.

  • @LSTRetroGamingVideos

    @LSTRetroGamingVideos

    21 күн бұрын

    Funny that you mention that. I'm in the EU and it seems there is still no recent ToS update. Last one I have is from February, just checked.

  • @Yunhaisongtao
    @Yunhaisongtao17 күн бұрын

    The only way to stop this is Adobe to see lots, lots of subscription cancellations.

  • @BennyBornAgain
    @BennyBornAgain21 күн бұрын

    Da Vinci Resolve folks! For video editing at least. Very good.

  • @Envinite

    @Envinite

    16 күн бұрын

    Even the free version already comparable to full version of Adobe Premiere.

  • @BennyBornAgain

    @BennyBornAgain

    16 күн бұрын

    @@Envinite I started with the free and paid for Studio. No regrets.

  • @buckrodgers1162
    @buckrodgers116221 күн бұрын

    Remember when UbiSoft said: "You will own nothing, and you will like it." Pepperridge Farms remembers. We will own nothing, because they forced us to own nothing. But that still don't mean 'we will like it'. Only if this gets normalized will we 'like it'. DON'T LET THEM NORMALIZE IT!!!!

  • @pvanukoff

    @pvanukoff

    21 күн бұрын

    Thousand of people agree to new terms like this all the time without even thinking about the implications. And for those who do think about it, they click anyway because they need to get their work done. It's already normalized.

  • @videowarehouse

    @videowarehouse

    21 күн бұрын

    I believe the World Economic Forum also said this, I think they carry a bit more weight than UbiSoft, and it's true. If you miss payments on your Tesla, they can disable your car. If your iPhone breaks, you have to get Apple to fix it. I remember having to pay $750+ because my iPhone 7+ stopped working in 2019 and they said it had 'water damage', even though it's never been splashed, let alone gone swimming, so the only option was to buy a replacement phone of the same model. If I wanted the latest model, I had to pay even more. And what choice did I have, really? I could have said F-it, I'm just gonna buy a new Android at that price, but then I'd lose all my data. You pay these companies so much money and they still own you, years later.

  • @buckrodgers1162

    @buckrodgers1162

    21 күн бұрын

    @@pvanukoff, In a way, yes that is somewhat true. But that's why piracy, safe piracy (programs with no added malware), is more important than ever. The only way to take back ownership of programs, is to pirate a copy. Remember what Gabe Newell said: "Piracy is a result of bad service on the part of game companies." Well that can apply to any software on the net as well. Bad service = More pirates = Taking back private ownership = Less corporate revenue = Possible better service

  • @mandzph

    @mandzph

    21 күн бұрын

    proper response to this, is to say "then I will buy nothing, and I will love it". companies have made their crap so impractical to own that nowadays the only logical move is to gtfo and take ur money somewhere else.

  • @buckrodgers1162

    @buckrodgers1162

    21 күн бұрын

    @@mandzph, The only problem with that, is that every company is doing this. So there's really no where else to go. You buy from X crappy company, Y crappy company, or Z crappy company, and they are all doing the same exact thing. To buy nothing, leaves you in the same position, as buying something and still owning nothing. There is one hell of a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' game going on here.

  • @mcwolfbeast
    @mcwolfbeast22 күн бұрын

    So now you not only don't own the software you purchase, you also don't own what you create. They are fast-tracking dystopia.

  • @nyanko8972

    @nyanko8972

    21 күн бұрын

    Thought it was bad enough that meta was taking our finished work. Fucking hate this new world

  • @thichinhphan4010

    @thichinhphan4010

    21 күн бұрын

    Not a surprise at this point. The current youtube's word censor is reaching 1984 version, while only their endorsed youtubers (preferably female) are safe in their platform after committing illegal acts.

  • @supercoolezio
    @supercoolezio15 күн бұрын

    If Adobe wants access to my data I want them to pay me for it.

  • @ViMi16
    @ViMi1616 күн бұрын

    "It is never a bad idea to pirate Adobe products" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @tgheretford
    @tgheretford21 күн бұрын

    Wait until not only you have to pay for access, allow them access to gather all your data and hold it to ransom if you don't pay the monthly subscription fee, but also when they demand a royalty payment for the work you created using their software so they get a cut of your success. The days of "if its free, you're the product" is long gone. Now everyone paying is also the product.

  • @JohnSmith-kn9yz

    @JohnSmith-kn9yz

    21 күн бұрын

    “Now everyone paying is also the product.” Huh, I remember saying that exact thing and got downvoted into oblivion, in a privacy subreddit nonetheless. It would be insane to think that these for-profit, infinite growth chasing, privacy violating companies would not be tracking us just because we pay a few dollars a month a for a mere online service. Why would they pass that up? It’s free real estate.

  • @yuuki3751

    @yuuki3751

    21 күн бұрын

    so Unity

  • @kamikaze5528

    @kamikaze5528

    21 күн бұрын

    @@JohnSmith-kn9yz Your first mistake was using reddit.

  • @rfitzgerald2004

    @rfitzgerald2004

    21 күн бұрын

    Check the general terms section 4.2, you're allowing them to use your private data for any public purpose royalty-free: 4.2 Licences to Your Content. Solely for the purposes of operating or improving the Services and Software, you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free sublicensable, licence, to use, reproduce, publicly display, distribute, modify, create derivative works based on, publicly perform and translate the Content.

  • @thesenamesaretaken

    @thesenamesaretaken

    21 күн бұрын

    ​@@rfitzgerald2004looking forward to people getting copyright claims levelled against their own artwork

  • @katier9725
    @katier972521 күн бұрын

    I reported this to my company because we work with video games. If Adobe think they can filch even data that is under NDA, they'll deserve a million lawsuits over this.

  • @gt5713
    @gt571321 күн бұрын

    Thanks for standing up and being direct about this instead of dancing around it in a "friendly" way. Much appreciated.

  • @theoffice4951
    @theoffice495120 күн бұрын

    Thanks for bringing this to light

  • @timothytorres26
    @timothytorres2621 күн бұрын

    Adobe also has the most predatory subscription tactics. They'll charge you up to $55 extra to cancel a monthly-billed yearly contract for their pdf viewer.

  • @fss1704

    @fss1704

    21 күн бұрын

    Well, if you're paying for a pdf reader subscription then that's what you deserve.

  • @timothytorres26

    @timothytorres26

    21 күн бұрын

    Let me add. It's for adobe acrobat. They laude the importance of the subscription even though it's benign.

  • @derbybOyzZ

    @derbybOyzZ

    21 күн бұрын

    There are safe open source free solutions.

  • @Corteum

    @Corteum

    21 күн бұрын

    Ditch Adobe View and get Sumatra PDF and/or PDFXEdit (free and superior)

  • @Corteum

    @Corteum

    21 күн бұрын

    @@timothytorres26 Abode Acrobat is just one giant BLOATass

  • @mrthief6214
    @mrthief621421 күн бұрын

    I still run a pirated Adobe suite from 2020, and I'm proud to say I'm not a part of this scam. My work is being done same as before without issues.

  • @NightmareRex6

    @NightmareRex6

    21 күн бұрын

    FFS they consider pirating "stealing" but then will like compare to stealing an expensive sports car, but dont bother to say the pirate atualy MAGICALY MAKES A COPY of the car and ZERO resources are used, imagine how much better humanity would be off if nolonger barred by mammon and can magicaly spawn anything they need, and even anomlusly clone land so none homeless? if found how to do that they would off you quicker than you can post it to the deep web.......

  • @syahmiirfan6779

    @syahmiirfan6779

    21 күн бұрын

    Let's go! Software pirates are free, and most likely live a better life compared to people who pay for stuff and still get screwed over because the companies that they threw money to doesn't respect them in any way 🏴‍☠

  • @Abattoir23

    @Abattoir23

    21 күн бұрын

    I paid for PS for the past 2 years and I don't even use it. I felt morally obligated since I had to pirate it as a kid. Piracy is becoming more and more morally acceptable.

  • @CubicApocalypse128

    @CubicApocalypse128

    21 күн бұрын

    @@Abattoir23 it is always morally acceptable to pirate from Adobe

  • @halocraze9839

    @halocraze9839

    21 күн бұрын

    ​@@CubicApocalypse128 Why?

  • @tkgus2408
    @tkgus240819 күн бұрын

    I haven't paid for an Adobe product in years

  • @lemi3d364
    @lemi3d36416 күн бұрын

    We need more people like you! Today, everyone is afraid to say what's really on their mind. Everyone is scared of accidentally offending someone. It's nice to see someone still has balls! Respect man!

  • @The_Orchestrator_of_Chaos
    @The_Orchestrator_of_Chaos21 күн бұрын

    Remember that it's always morally right to pirate Adobe products. (But even if you pirate them, I wouldn't use it on your everyday PC)

  • @jamesphillips2285

    @jamesphillips2285

    21 күн бұрын

    That is why they moved to Software As A Service (SAAS). Better is to use Free/Libre software that does not bull this bull-crap.

  • @Moe_Posting_Chad

    @Moe_Posting_Chad

    21 күн бұрын

    @@jamesphillips2285 I don't care about Linux. Too much feature creep. Bloat. Autistic UX design. No thanks. I value my time. I'll just pirate the software. Malware is not actually very common in piracy at all. Some of you are way too paranoid. Some of you suffer dunning kruger. You run a VM just so you can always spin it back up from a backup. Not because you forgot to run your malware in a sandbox environment!

  • @TheodoreManthovani
    @TheodoreManthovani21 күн бұрын

    I always cautious from the first time Adobe offered Cloud based service, they would become a Ransomware. What do you know, they did it.

  • @nickl5658

    @nickl5658

    16 күн бұрын

    I learned the hard way that any software that saves its data into proprietary format that cannot be opened by another 3rd party software is randsomware.

  • @azurebomber
    @azurebomber20 күн бұрын

    These companies just keeps giving my man something to talk about.

  • @a.........1._.2..__..._.....__
    @a.........1._.2..__..._.....__20 күн бұрын

    This is also why I hate and avoid any web only app. I want it running locally.

  • @shaicat
    @shaicat21 күн бұрын

    Adobe requiring a subscription was the day I stopped using adobe products and went out of my way to learn how to use open source software, and I'm glad to see they continue justifying that decision for me.

  • @mrjeffry25
    @mrjeffry2521 күн бұрын

    The funny thing is if you cancel their apps because you don’t agree to the new term of service you get charged an early termination fee.

  • @Snorlaxiian

    @Snorlaxiian

    21 күн бұрын

    That's extortion.

  • @Moe_Posting_Chad

    @Moe_Posting_Chad

    21 күн бұрын

    It boggles my mind that anyone uses their actual credit/debit card for anything, and that people subscribe to anything!

  • @stevepreskitt283

    @stevepreskitt283

    21 күн бұрын

    Talk to a lawyer. Unilateral changes like that usually aren't enforceable.

  • @megamastah

    @megamastah

    21 күн бұрын

    @@Moe_Posting_Chad touch grass.

  • @Moe_Posting_Chad

    @Moe_Posting_Chad

    21 күн бұрын

    @@megamastah I have worked for the payment card industry. I know all about interchange fees and the rest of it. You would be shocked if I told a black man to get off my buss. But you don't bat an eye when anyone is removed from *all banking in America.*

  • @lobeliabaggins8782
    @lobeliabaggins878219 күн бұрын

    By that logic Adobe should be granting fair share of their shares to each creator.

  • @ChristianIce
    @ChristianIce19 күн бұрын

    Anyway, I wonder what they think at big studios like ILM or similar, about "we can use your content", while they are working on million dollars productions.

  • @PedroBentoIT
    @PedroBentoIT21 күн бұрын

    Adobe - "We steal our customer's intellectual property!"

  • @Bill-ni3es
    @Bill-ni3es21 күн бұрын

    I remember the outrage when Adobe switched to the cloud. Yet there were still many defending the move as "you're now getting the latest up-to-date software" for cheaper. Never fell for it.

  • @DKNguyen3.1415

    @DKNguyen3.1415

    21 күн бұрын

    I don't understand how anyone does not see cloud as a scam.

  • @beatsbeercigarettes

    @beatsbeercigarettes

    21 күн бұрын

    That's when I made my switch to GIMP and INKSCAPE and never looked back. It's rare I can't accomplish the exact same end results. The road getting there is just a little different.

  • @seigeengine

    @seigeengine

    21 күн бұрын

    That doesn't even make sense. You don't need "the cloud" to be able to update software.

  • @GTaichou

    @GTaichou

    21 күн бұрын

    "for cheaper" - only in the short term. Bought CS4 in 2010. If I'd paid a monthly fee for the last 14 years I'd have paid more than 10x the price. Rarely does the average person need to buy the the new suite every few years

  • @r.rsmith
    @r.rsmith19 күн бұрын

    2:41 It's funny how Louis is so mad at Adobe that he outright calls them r*pists 😭💀

  • @DESOUSAB
    @DESOUSAB18 күн бұрын

    I absolutely love this dude. Keep doing what you're doing...

  • @CubesAndPortals
    @CubesAndPortals21 күн бұрын

    Another win for the Affinity suite. Already couldn't beat the one-time payment for a perpetual license.

  • @adul00

    @adul00

    20 күн бұрын

    "We need to give money to pieces of software, that treat people like human beings" While Serif (company behind Affinity) just made a -50% sale on their perpetual licenses, and I'm glad I could support them.

  • @LV4EVR

    @LV4EVR

    19 күн бұрын

    Switched years ago. Couldn't be happier with the suite, _especially_ since v2. Don't you know thousands are buying right now. 💪🏽

  • @cbnewham5633

    @cbnewham5633

    18 күн бұрын

    Agreed. Affinity is great. There are some missing things that would be nice, but I'm sure they'll add them in future. We all have to start somewhere - even Photoshop wasn't a complete package when it first came out. Affinity also listen to their customers and fix reported bugs promptly. I have an old version of CS5 but after I tried Affinity I stopped using PS as it's become far too old and, because I refused to go to the software as a service model that Adobe came out with, I'll never see any updates.

  • @TunaIRL

    @TunaIRL

    16 күн бұрын

    Btw affinity also reserves the right to take your licence to the software at any time. You don't own it either.

  • @hyoenmadan

    @hyoenmadan

    16 күн бұрын

    @@TunaIRL As long as the whole application is in your computer, and it lets you save your stuff in a local library on your HDD, you can overcome these "nuisances" in case they go Adobe route. With Adobe isn't true anymore as it now works like an online game, with parts of the executable only existing in cloud and encrypted in your RAM. And it used the cloud to save your stuff. That said... Run away as soon as your EULA gets changed to "Cloud only" software.

  • @LordHonkInc
    @LordHonkInc21 күн бұрын

    Man, people working under an NDA or on confidential data must be shitting themselves right about now

  • @jakehildebrand1824

    @jakehildebrand1824

    21 күн бұрын

    I know for sure as an independent artist, I sure am.

  • @fss1704

    @fss1704

    21 күн бұрын

    Yeah i can imagine.

  • @username7763

    @username7763

    21 күн бұрын

    While, by no means, is this reasonable. To some degree Adobe users shouldn't be surprised. You store your data in Adobe's cloud, they have full control over you. I lived through the personal computer revolution. The promise was that you'd have your very own computer on everyone's desk. Why does everyone keep wanting to use Adobe's computers?

  • @TunaIRL

    @TunaIRL

    16 күн бұрын

    The same clause has existed for 11 years. They should've probably shat their pants for a long time now.

  • @IIjlI
    @IIjlI10 күн бұрын

    Can't wait for the next video on Adobe Vs the US government

  • @flackenstien
    @flackenstien19 күн бұрын

    I can't even begin to understand why an online connection is mandatory.. LET ALONE them being able to snoop through your private files and whatever the fuck they want, based on terms they can forcefully update at any point.

  • @jameseverett9037

    @jameseverett9037

    13 күн бұрын

    Why I still run Windows 7.