I found the Boston 12 harsh first few runs.. Felt bottom heavy... After about 20 Miles they became amazing . All the pieces fell together. The Puma Deviate Nitro 2 is the same weight as the Boston 12 but feels heavier and MUCH softer. Slow runs in the Puma Deviate Nitro 2 (easy) are killing my Achilles Tendon and low calf. No problem with easy run in the Boston 12. Superblast is AMAZING. A class above both shoes.. Only problem is that Superblast collect small stones running on gravel.. Superblast AMAZING at any pace except all out.. Speed 3 a disappointment if you had the Speed 2.. It's just mushy and to soft for a long run. However when travelling I take the Speed 3, it does everything OK. Nothing great..

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Yes the Boston need a little tenderising.

@kangwafi7

11 ай бұрын

Same trouble with me on puma deviate nitro 2. If it using for my easy pace, i got some problem with my achiles. But if i increase little pace from my usual easy pace can solve it. I think nitro elite formula on deviate 2 is more softness and compressive with nitro elite on deviate nitro elite. But i still love it.😊

@i.p2088

11 ай бұрын

Yes and even more so with the Deviate Nitro Elite 2. Very soft and unstable at easy to moderate pace.

@travelingfit2032

11 ай бұрын

​@@EDDBUD this gives me some hope. I've found them a little rough but I only have maybe 10 miles on them so far. Will keep tenderizing :)

@recguerra3

11 ай бұрын

Thatsa nice rewiew. I'm a bit over 20 miles with my B12 and I agree with your insights.

The Puma takes it for me. There are many things I like about it, but the grip means it will be fine on non technical trails, so towpaths and local woodland still available routes during the winter!

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

🥈 Puma have some bangers this year

Love the opinions! I love my boston12s. Smashed 350+km on mine. Completely neglected all my other shoes on rotation since I got it. Long, fast, slow and intervals…. It does it all and it just feels awesome. Love your content Bud!

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more!

Ordered the Superblast today and I seriously cannot wait to get them on and start pounding that tarmac!

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

It’s a great shoe. Will be in the list for 2023

Another good video Edd. Would be good to see more Mizuno shoes.. maybe their Wave Daichi or Wave Mujin trail offerings.

Concise and informative thanks Ed - Boston 12’s have arrived and waiting for the rain to clear - enjoying the musical reflections 😊

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Have fun!

Thanks for the comparisons Edd. Very good video as per usual. I actually bought the Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 2 yesterday at a discount so I'm hoping it can do a similar job in this category too.

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Ohhh your in for a treat. Love that shoe for many reasons

The production values here are insane. I can see in glorious 4k exactly how fugly the Saucony is.

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

It’s very blue.

Helpful review. Thank you.

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Before I watched the video I wrote down what I thought you’d say based on the main videos for each shoe, and I nailed it. You said everything I thought you’d say. This is why I appreciate your reviews so much. Transparency and consistency. Cheers!

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

I appreciate that!

I find your channel the best and most independant shoe review channel on youtube. Keep them coming!

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

I appreciate that!

Three great shoes, they all seem super popular for good reason. One of these will replace my Adios Pro 2s I’ve used as a tempo shoe for over 2 years, Continental sole held out for a long time but is wearing through now.

Thanks Edd for the great comparisons, now I know what shoes to buy.

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Happy to help!

this is a great video idea man! subscribed :)

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

LOVE my Superblasts, so good for all runs.

@EDDBUD

10 ай бұрын

Yes they work for mostly everything

Good to meet you Edd - hope you enjoyed the rest of the day in Bris

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Fantastic to see you too! We had a top time though legs were tired out by the end. Did lots of walking. Hope you enjoyed the run in the sun

As I have mentioned previously, can’t find the deviate nitro here so picked up the Boston 12. Really like them because you don’t get lost is the squish of other shoes and the foot plant is a no nonsense trim feel without the big wide heal. Sold on them so far!

Picked up the Boston 12's a few weeks ago and I LOVE them. I only use one pair of running shoes at a time and basically use them till they falling apart.

@EDDBUD

10 ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with that!

Can’t decide on next shoes. Glycerins have been amazing and keep swinging between Boston, Mach 5 and superblast

@halmo68

11 ай бұрын

Je viens de recevoir mes Superblast. Tellement légère et confortable.

@i.p2088

11 ай бұрын

Superblast is a class above both shoes.

I went from vapourfly 2 to endorphin pro 3 which I loved to much I've worn it out to quick. So after your review I will go for the endorphin pro 4.thanks as always.

@EDDBUD

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for tuning in

Je viens de recevoir aujourd’hui mes Superblast. Je les trouve tellement confortables. Plus doux que les speed 3. Parfait pour les longues courses. Merci

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Glad the Superblast is working out for you. Thanks for watching

It is a very versatile shoe, it cushions, it is fast, durable, light and reasonably stable.

HALF MAN, HALF SHOE 🤓

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Somone spotted it. Good job

@dhgpan

11 ай бұрын

@@EDDBUD my favourite super hero 🦸‍♂️

@jefreywith1f924

10 ай бұрын

​@@EDDBUDHALF MAN, HALF BISCUIT. 😂

Boston 12 pretty much replaced the SL on my rotation. Glad you liked it Ed. If I'm not mistaken it was nay a while back.👍

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Yes it’s a million times better and more versatile

Thank you 🙏

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

You’re welcome 😊

I took a couple walk,jogs, warm ups and then when i took them to run BOOM

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Good idea. Some pre running break in is always good

Got my bostons last week after skipping 11 and selling the 10. I had a whole bunch of the earlier versions and loved them. The 12s are a return to form ! Loving them already !

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Yes a return to form!

Edd this is bad, I had to order a new 50 shoe shoe rack today to accommodate my growing shoe family. The babies will be delivered soon ... Puma Deviate Nitro 2, Asics Superblast and Magic Speed 3 and Brooks Hyperion Max. There are some good sales here at the moment so I couldn't help myself. I'm constantly being told I only have 2 feet! Thanks for your reviews but I think you are enabling my shoe addiction. Haaa! Great comparison video once again.

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

My word! That’s a good haul incoming. Have some on running shoes to test soon plus a few others on the way. I try and move them on if I don’t get on with the shoes or have gotten some good content out of them thus far.

A touch cooler today for some reps at 5k pace in the zoom fly flyknit 😎 I bet there's plenty of Superblast down The Kings Avenue 💷💷💷💷

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

That reminds me I need to get my coat back. 🤣

@Stevenc1984

11 ай бұрын

@@EDDBUD Good job your name was written on it 🤣

I ended up going with a pair of boston 12s. Here in sweden they are more than 40 pounds cheaper than the superblast, and the speed 3 is actually more expensive than the superblast...

If the Superblast had a better outsole, it would probably be the best shoe ever made.

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

I agree it’s the only weak point

Edd - brilliant vid again. Any chance of that ‘top 5k / ParkRun runner vid’ given how many runners have that as their focus?

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

That’s a great idea. I think it needs to cover the variety of courses though. Local to me are grass and trail type parkruns. Some others are faster pavement type ones.

@tommyb4918

11 ай бұрын

Yes. That’s a very good point. I’ll be fascinated to see what you’d recommend for Woolacombe Dunes PR!!

Hey Ed! Just FYI Saucony changed the laces on the newer color ways. Much better than the initial ones… For me Speed 3 all the way as the do it all beast but still need to try the superblast

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

They must have heard my request!

Excellent video. I’m curious what laces you use for the Speed 3? I have the same issue with the supplied laces.

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Some laces from a peg 37. Bit less flex to them

Great comparison video as always Ed! But which is the most stable of the bunch? I mildly overpronate but so bored of stability shoes at the mo. I have the Tempus but it’s too voluminous and I need to sinch up well tight

@EDDBUD

10 ай бұрын

The Boston probs most stable I think

Hello Edd, ik got a pair of boston 10s. Loved them. Ordered the boston 11s but got problems with blisters on the achilles heel because of the sharp edge and the funny flap on them... how is that with the boston 12s ???? I maneged to get a last pair of boston 10s for half price here in the Netherlands, but mayby some 12s for the future... greetings

Change the insole and voila the shoe fits perfectly now it is a semi-orthopedic, this one is thicker and fits better. I've run it on a long run, in tempo, and interval work and it works for me.

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

The adidas insole is very thin

Superblast is in a category of its own I think, there’s nothing like especially on long runs. I use the speed 3’s as my steady to tempo runs and use the superblast for middle to long runs in my rotation. Use other shoes for easy days and threshold/speed days. But I am debating on the Boston 12 or deviate nitro 2 to replace my speed 3’s though… might go with the 12’s

@EDDBUD

10 ай бұрын

Nothing quite like that Asics shoe

Got the Boston 12 for about $100 only and the Adios Pro 3 at $130. Both are bang for the buck

@EDDBUD

6 ай бұрын

Superb value!

Just what I needed because I’m deciding between the Boston and Superblast. Need something for long runs for marathon training.

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Hope it helps out

@i.p2088

11 ай бұрын

Superblast much lighter! Superblast softer as well. They are both excellent but so different. Get both.

After1 run in the Boston 12 on a wet concrete path I know this replaces my Novablast 3 TR for my rainy runs, dry ones it’s Superblast all the time…

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Yeah the Boston has the outsole advantage.

@i.p2088

11 ай бұрын

Novablast 3 outsole in the wet is a joke.. I guess TR not much better..

@robborrel6786

11 ай бұрын

@@i.p2088 keep guessing I guess.

Thanks

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Your super support is much appreciated 👍🏼👊

I need to set up a drop box for all these stretchy laces you keep discarding...

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

🤣👍🏼

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Ps good name. My son is a Fergus too

nice Champ

Superblast is the option!

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Can’t beat it

Even though I highly rate the Speed 3, I can understand the comments about Speed 3 being almost too squishy.

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Yes the v1/2 was firmer

thanks for this video... do you have a ne camera? quality is mich better now :)

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

No same camera. It’s the fact I shaved my beard. 🤣👍🏼

@der_sascha

11 ай бұрын

haha ok :D@@EDDBUD

I have a pair of the Boston 12 but only have ran 30k in them. They feel good for speed workouts and intervals, but I feel like they are pretty stiff when jogging at a slower pace (anything above 5’30/km I feel) I hope they soften up with time like everyone says !

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Get that meat tenderiser out!

@olivernmd2689

10 ай бұрын

@@EDDBUDdo you think they’re a good option for a marathon ? I don’t know if I should stick to either them, my endorphin speed 2s or if I should pick up a pair I’d only use for race days

@bogdanceausescu7403

10 ай бұрын

Any update? Did they softened up for slower paces?

@MrSamuel12363

9 ай бұрын

I’ve got the same question for marathon use

Sometimes I really wonder how different these shoes are, like are we all just influenced by well… influencers. I’d be interested for Ed to go back and try out the Boston 11 and see how different they really are? From the looks of it, they’ve just made the rear foam ever so slightly softer.

@EDDBUD

5 ай бұрын

I tried the Boston 10. It has the same midsole as the 11. It wasn’t great

Hi eddbud 👊 , wow the who's who of mega shoes there , one shoe I'll love to get is the superblast but that price and the colourways?? , oddly enough the bos12 is the cheapest in Oz want this shoe , not sure about the dev2 atm ( don't think it going to work for me ) , speed3 works great for me 👍, im going to wait to see what happens with novablast 4 , burn out some off the ones I've got first , hoka mach5 been a big surprise for me 👍

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

I am constantly surprised by the different prices in Oz. Way different than the uk or us prices

Only have the Puma, which is very good for faster running (mile pb on track) but suprisingly bad for longruns (bottoms out and outsole to hard).

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Not found that with the Puma. Felt good for longer efforts

the shattering noise after "glass fiber" at 1:50 absolutely took me out 😂

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Well I have seen a few snap!

I need new daily trainers but every time I get to the basket I buy super shoes lol

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Well they are fun. And not also more durable too

@i.p2088

11 ай бұрын

Exactly, I have the Alphafly, Vaporfly, Superblast, Endorphin Pro 3, Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro and more but I don't even race.. 😂

Nice video!!! What about Adidas Primex 2?Any news?

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

🥉 they did a draw release today but no sign of a proper release yet

@i.p2088

11 ай бұрын

They were on sale for a few hours in the US. Of course sold out. I understand that they are heavier but a more stable platform. Also sizing is different.

@duanesidney9761

11 ай бұрын

​@@i.p2088they didn't sell out. Adidas pulled them from their site after just a few hours. I know this because I grabbed a size 11 pair and was still able to exchange them for an 11.5 once they had totally disappeared from the site. So Adidas had released them to get some hype going and will release them again next month, most likely.

Do you ever wonder who the "shoe lace area designer" is for Adidas? They have got some really weird setups. Almost every shoe I've got from them... all strange lacing systems....

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Yes and different laces all the time too

Puma's line up is insanely strong. Boston 12 is really good nevertheless.

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Yes Puma on the hunt. Adidas have improved that Boston model though

S U P E R B L A S T - even the name rocks !

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Yes it’s got the explosive quality we are looking for.

Let me be the first to request that you compare the Boston-12 with the Boston-13. I'll wait until 2024, but remember that I was the first to request.

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

🤣👍🏼

Thinking about another pair of shoes and maybe the Adios? My Deviate Nitro 2 narrow toe box is killing my toes for any run above 18km

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Didn’t find it that tight

I think the Superblast can't be taken serioulsy against the rest at that price, having not tried the Boston 12, I'd take the Speed 3 and I still enjoy mine

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

I have included these as requested by the viewers.

@TheHutchRuns

11 ай бұрын

@@EDDBUD understand EDD

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

@@TheHutchRuns 👍🏼👊

@i.p2088

11 ай бұрын

If you put the price of the shoe into the equation you are correct.

i dont love Boston 12 rear heel area cushion (need to make it tighter to keep it down) and upper lace area sucks. But for $80 on sale, its hard to beat. 😂 mid sole feels great.

@EDDBUD

2 ай бұрын

It does improve over time

Hi Edd. I wear UK 11 in the Deviate Nitro 2. Should I go for 11 in the Boston? Adidas size guide online makes it look like they may run small. Thanks

@EDDBUD

7 ай бұрын

Found the Boston 12 to be true to size.

Test idea 👍🏻I "feel" that in some shoes like Boston 12 or Hyperion Tempo the midsole soften DURING the run.. I heard the top scientist in Saucony say that the energy transfer to heat during the run. Heat makes midsole (often) softer.. So Durometer before and immediately at the end of the run could be different? Measurable? 0:29

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

I know what you mean. Perhaps they foam reacts to the activity.

@i.p2088

11 ай бұрын

@@EDDBUD Exactly. I was always thinking our body gets used to the hard midsole but perhaps the midsole soften DURING the run.. According to Saucony you transfer the energy to heat.. No loss of energy according to Einstein 😎

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

In this case it would explain why some shoes do feel better in the warmer temps and others total rubbish in the cold wet weather! @@i.p2088

Thinking about the boston as a new tempo effort shoe when my SC trainer V2s go kaput, One thing I’d add is that the SC is very limited on gravel and non-road running. Anybody test the boston on some rougher terrain?

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Didn’t get on with the sc original. Hope the v2 is doing bette for you

Edd ‘two watches’ Budd! Garmin 955 on the left, but what are you rocking on the right..?

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Epix 2. One on miles the other on km

@DarthTrader66

11 ай бұрын

@@EDDBUD sweet. Might try Garmin myself. I’ve always used Apple and the running metrics are actually really good now but I fancy a dedicated running watch with physical buttons 👍

I would have expected to see the Pegasus 40 in this line up 🤔

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

More daily shoe and not quite the same as the others.

@sim7384

9 ай бұрын

Not in the same league as the other shoes mentioned

Hi Edd, I’ve spotted the Adidas Duramo speed floating about. It looks like an entry level, non-plated Boston ‘like’ daily trainer. Do you have any experience of this particular shoe at all? Thanks!

@EDDBUD

10 ай бұрын

Not tried that one and it’s difficult to try in store

@that_which_is_not

10 ай бұрын

@@EDDBUD no probs. I’ve not heard great things about ‘lightstrike’ unfortunately. Thought it might be a good cheap alternative for a new runner, the foam might negate that recommendation though!

@that_which_is_not

9 ай бұрын

@@EDDBUD Soooo, have picked this up! I think it’s a bit of a sleeper 10k shoe. The shoe feels slightly firm but not unforgiving and there’s decent stack underfoot. The upper feels very ‘adizero’ quality wise and the midsole has a lovely rocker to it. If you get a chance to try it, it could be an excellent true budget shoe offering @ £80

Speed 3 and Superblast all the way... Both a Swiss Army Knifes! The Superblast is an amazing surprise from Asics this year! Speed 3 is already discounted to around 110/120 Euro here in Germany and the Superblast already at 170. I hated what Adidas did to the Boston series after 9 and never going to return to that one :D Would love to hear your thoughts on the Ultrafly :D

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Superblast has been the emerging super shoe

@marcusszavaleta

11 ай бұрын

Boston 10 and 11 were bricks, the 12s aren’t!!

Tried the boston, and i hate the lace loops . My go to is still the deviate nitro (though normal nitro would have been better in the forefoot as the nitro elite can get very soft and feel like bottoming out after a while)

I just got the Superblast and to me it feels like the softest shoe I´ve ever worn. I have to find out whether my body is able to tolerate such softness and stack height. The Boston 12 felt so unstable and ill fitting that had to send them back. (all from a forefoot striker perspective)

@na1582

11 ай бұрын

Finally I’ve found someone else! I have got 40k on the Superblast and they are so so soft, I sink in to them and feel like I’m getting nothing back. We seem to be in the minority though 🤷‍♂️

@jackjill2010

11 ай бұрын

I always felt FF Turbo foam was on the softer side but provides excellent performance/rebound so I've always been pleased with my times however my Achilles and calves are very tender post run. I think I'm in the minority too.

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Feels to me like it has a little more resilience than the other softer stuff

@jimbeam4736

11 ай бұрын

@@na1582 I do sink into that midsole as well and I´m just about 70kg. Maybe it´s sample variation?

@jimbeam4736

11 ай бұрын

@@EDDBUD I just had one little run in them (with lots of walking because of a aggravated achilles tendon). The rebound felt strong, and they were quite stable, yet I did sink into that foam. I mean it´s all subjective, but I´m just used to firmer Altra, Newton and Craft shoes.

Hi edd... If you only had to have 1 shoe among the four rows, which one would you choose?

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

Boston 12. It does it all!

@laganjr.9076

9 ай бұрын

Thank u very much....

This black Boston 12 is it the women's category? Cause in India I don't have this collar in the men's section it's available in the women's section only.Please let me know.

@EDDBUD

7 ай бұрын

No it’s the men’s one. It’s on all of them

I was today years old when I realised the numbers in the back are race bibs and not the prices on the shoes 😂

@EDDBUD

10 ай бұрын

Yes though I bet a few times the number indicates the price!

How does it compare to the nitro elite 2 tho

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

The nitro elite 2? The weight starts making a big difference then. The elite 2 upper is also really flexible compared to the Boston

Giving Zoom fly 3 vibes 😔😔

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

This one? Nah it’s much more cushioned and comfortable than that brick

Marathon in the deviate nitros?

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Don’t see why not!

Any more Puma releases this year you think?

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Yes but I think they waiting on a few events etc

Great comparison! But anyone know which has the widest mid and forefoot? Hobbit runner here :P

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

There’s a wide version of the Boston I think

are the nova blast similar than the superblast? thanks!

@EDDBUD

10 ай бұрын

Novablast a bit more compressive. Touch lighter and the midsole feels a bit more rubbery.

@leesoutheast

10 ай бұрын

Used both and felt the Novablast 3 felt a bit sloppy/too soft (for me) compared to Superblast. Superblast felt faster too.

Hi

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Gold 🥇

@cheekster777

11 ай бұрын

@@EDDBUD 🥇 🥇 🥇

what about having all 4? how would you use them?

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Superblast for recovery and oddly some intervals. It’s so light it suits it. The Boston and Puma for longer runs with some added pace. The speed 3 is perhaps better suited for faster running and the lightest and most nimble of the bunch.

@andriekal

11 ай бұрын

@@EDDBUD thanks, I have the puma and the speed 3, really thinking on getting the other 2. Which would be the daily trainer?

Hi Bud, wonder how does it compare to Novablast 3?

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

The nova is more squashy and that bit lighter. No grip on those though

@radhiaditya5762

11 ай бұрын

@@EDDBUDHi, thanks for your reply!

@leesoutheast

10 ай бұрын

Owned both and Superblasts feel far better in my opinion. More responsive and faster for me.

+

And if you can get just one of them? :D

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Superblast.

Moral of the video: Get SuperBlast

@EDDBUD

10 ай бұрын

Yes that’s pretty much it!

BOSTON 12 Or Takumi sen 9

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Very different shoes. The sen is much lower profile and for me more a higher paced race shoe perhaps for the half distance downward. The Boston 12 more a trainer for me

[My KZread channel provides free coaching videos for runners] Thanks Edd, really enjoy your comparison videos. You sold me the Superblast today mate. Can't wait to pick it up. Really appreciate your insights.

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

It’s a top shoe

LOL half man, half shoe 😂

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Couldn’t resist it!

Speed 3 = knee injuries waiting to happen. They collapse too quickly, no stability.

@EDDBUD

11 ай бұрын

Yes they are very squashy. The v1/2 was a bit firmer.

@michelleharrington9821

8 ай бұрын

One of the many issues I had with the Speed 3!