Please don't be afraid to say when things are weak... This detachment rule only affects shooting on a unit that is mostly melee, Robots shooting is worse than units at half their point cost Also the AP buff/debuff also only affects shooting and in our deployment zone for debuff (and opponent's for buff) The comparison to Ironstorm you made should make that even more evident... [EDIT] The competitive admech community has been at it for days the optimal loadout is NOT gun and fists on bots the gun does absolutely no damage with low AP and things get even worse if you don't have twin linked to help it wound, double fists and a clear purpose (killing very tanky vehicles in a single fight phase) should be the top priority for them

@scottyscott402

6 ай бұрын

Idk why they keep sugar coating this army. The book has major flaws, but there are some positives. If they never point out the negatives, it discredits their opinions.

@jacksonletts3724

6 ай бұрын

Do you know where to go to find the competitive admech community? I’ve been unable to track it down, just the painting and kit bashing enthusiasts. Any help would be great!

@SenseiLlama

6 ай бұрын

​@scottyscott402 they are sponsored by gw, no? It figures that they would have only glowing reviews.

@scottyscott402

6 ай бұрын

@SenseiLlama art of war and 40k in 40 minutes have both been critical but highlight the positives. I don't see how they are different from this.

@elpokitolama

6 ай бұрын

@@scottyscott402 PlayonTabletop have a much more casual approach to things so I think only the Art of War comparison should be made... And my, when you look at their reviews, even if they are trying to stay positive they are not mincing their words, literally during the last admech battle stream Siegler went "Games Workshop, someone, please force Stu Black to watch this game... Like come on man what are these rules" Another big example is during their unit tierlist, while reviewing Kataphron Breachers, they said "the rest of the army is like fancy garbage" (I think this video is still up) They make a good job at highlighting what works which I think is very important too but when it comes to the bad not pulling your punches is absolutely critical when your input will guide people who are buying into an army whose lists are at best 1500-1600 USD for 2000pts (remember that the potentially meta 27 chickens in 1390pts for 1620 USD...)

The keyword Tech-priest is also present on the Technoarcheologist and the Cybernetica Datasmith according to Wahapedia

Three of those enhancements are bad or meh, only Necromechanic is actually good (and its very good). The detachment rule is simply an embarrassment. It applies to one build of one unit. Absolutely shameful. Just compare it to the Ironstorm detachment to see how enormously weak it is. The strategems I THINK are pretty good because they often directly boost damage which is something Admech are really weak at. They are somewhat crippled by all being vehicle only AND you have to use them in the command phase, not the phase when they take effect, which is yet another hoop to jump through. I really love the Kastelans, but I suspect they are quite overcosted in this edition, and the addition of the army rule doesn't really give them much unless you give them the sub-optimal build with guns. I really don't understand why GW couldn't give us an army rule that benefitted the whole army (it currently only applies to 2/3 of our datasheets and gives VERY little benefit to melee units, of which we have several) and a detachment rule that was cool and fun and not a borderline insult.

Robots are my favorite part of the faction, and I have been shit upon for...what 3 editions? However, this edition edition has been a colassal steaming, magot infested diarrhea spewing anus directly above my head. If GW gives us another point reduction, I'm selling all my models.

Unless Cawls rules have changed I do not believe he heals other things, just himself. Much love though really hoping this detachment carry’s AdMech

@elpokitolama

6 ай бұрын

This is unfortunately the worse detachment for admech as its rule basically doesn't exist Only Hunter Cohort and on ruins heavy terrain data psalm (the cultmech one) can hold the faction at acceptable power level

Unpopular opinion but i think kastelans are op alongside kataphrons dragoons and a couple manipys your opponent doesnt know what to focus down and having the datasmith now isnt a waste of 35points because he autoprograms them now not a damn roll and he gives them extra attacks on all their weapons

I was really hoping for a fun flavourful detachment rule for the robots, but all they gave us is our army rule to one unit that excels primarily in melee anyway. Dam

@stevencarmody1755

6 ай бұрын

Technically affects 2 (datasmith is legio cybernetica)

I want to build an admech army so bad, but honestly the only thing reason Im put off from doing so is the cost of the army as a whole, its hard to want to build an army when the pricing is so poor per point D:

@SenseiLlama

6 ай бұрын

If you have a 3d printer it's great! Still not a cheap faction but tolerable. However if you insist on GW plastic I don't recommend. The most expensive faction hands town. Each edition, our points, has gotten worse. I started with 3k points. I have just under 2k now. It's not even funny.

How do you mention the stratagems without mentioning they have to be used in your command phase. The restriction is awful.

@1ItzMyStory1

6 ай бұрын

Having played the detachment it does suck to have to pre plan everything but ita not that hard to do. Only match-up that would suck is eldar as they could move and mess up plans but the most part it's not all that bad. Easy to see which strat you need

I heard "Very strong" and "Army Rule" in a single sentence. Then I flashed back to every instance my army rule hindered me, forced me to gamble, was negated by my opponent or Objective invalidating half of it. Now I just sigh. Its hard to find groups who want to play 9th ed.

I don't care if the detatchnent rule only affects one unit or if the stratagems are "bad", all my monkey brain wants is to see a table full of ROBOTS!

Necromechanic on tech priest engineer is absolutely busted. This detachment is underrated. 3 stabby chickens in any army plus 5 movement is turn one charge anything. Emotionless clarity on dominos with priests in Dunerider as well disgusting. Gotta run 20 chickens but it’s a fucking mess.

This detachment is hands down the worst in the entirety of 10th edition (dethroning the rad bombardment detachment from the index). Ever since 8th edition, GW has refused to make Kastelans viable.

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I dont understand how you guys can hype this so much- other analysts call this the WORST detachment in the game.

Bruh stop sugar coating...if you can't say anything bad cause you have a contract...fine whatever...but this codex is bad! Just plain bad, clunky and poorly written.

@VanguardTactics

6 ай бұрын

Admech codex review. This is bad. Done. Or alternatively we can help people that want to play Admech understand the best way to run each detachment. We are under no contract or obligation. We chose to remain positive and help people that love their faction.

@warnschnick0126

6 ай бұрын

@@VanguardTactics And Thanks a bunch for that, ever since the codex is out the online community has really been draining the joy out of the faction for me. Been looking forward to these reviews though and they helped me keep an eye on the fun things we are able to do with the codex rules.

@aid4482

6 ай бұрын

Maybe don’t title the video a review if it’s just going to be an advert then

@VanguardTactics

6 ай бұрын

@@aid4482 what would you call it?

@VanguardTactics

6 ай бұрын

@@warnschnick0126 our pleasure mate

Gents it’s almost like you don’t want to tell GW the truth(the detachment is awful)just in case they don’t send you any more free stuff

These opinions are so terrible that I can't believe they are honestly held.

@SenseiLlama

6 ай бұрын

Aren't they sponsored by gw? Makes sense why it's only positive.

Are you guys having a laugh? This detachment is a joke, stop sucking up to GW, it diminishes your credibility.

@fredguelen7630

4 ай бұрын

Actually, it's ok

@matjov

4 ай бұрын

@@fredguelen7630 a detachment that revolves around 1 (poor) datasheet? Behave.

@fredguelen7630

4 ай бұрын

@@matjov kastelans are ok and like the Assault, but the detachment offer far more. Necromechanic on a Enginseer is gold. Dragoons love the +4 move and +1 charge and the 6+++/5+++. Dunerider also love the 3+/ignore cover, or fall back and shoot. And that's some of our best units.

please don't make propaganda videos, its cringe