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@RowanHawkins

6 ай бұрын

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Brian has that calm knowledgability in his tone that you only get by experience teaching people for years and watching them make mistakes. It's almost instructive to watch him guide Adam through this because he has a finesse to how much he lets Adam wander off the path before gently guiding him back with advice that getting a little off-path has prepared Adam in real-time to see the value in the advice.

@PatrickPoet

7 ай бұрын

I thought the exact same thing, he would redirect Adam away from a mistake before Adam realized he was making a mistake and before there were consequences. It was wonderful to watch.

@DavidWagnerMaker

6 ай бұрын

The nature of learning jewelry techniques and concepts lends itself to this mode, and in my experience most of the best instructors will teach exactly this way. It's a deeply intuitive way of making.

@grievesy83

6 ай бұрын

Beautifully written, @Merennulli. I 100% agree.

More Brian please, he's both hilarious and knowledgable 😂

@FectacularSpail

7 ай бұрын

"Trust me, I grok" lol

My favorite part about this channel is the numerous tips and tricks for makers, explained in layman's terms while teaching professional jargon. I'll never be a maker of this caliber, but it Adam and friends have drastically improved my construction and repair skills by helping me think differently. Plus I have a passion for sewing now.

"You are more than just eyeballs with feet" is a really great quote for encouraging people to use more of their senses, to listen and touch, in order to learn about the world

I LOVE LEARNING FROM EXPERTS!!! What makes it even better is that Adam is insatiably curious and is great at asking questions and creating situations for the expert to demonstrate their knowledge and proficiency.

Man, how did I not know about this channel! 2024 is gonna be awesome 😎

@C3DPropShop

7 ай бұрын

Welcome to the insanity! Glad to have you!🎉

@SO-ym3zs

7 ай бұрын

It's up there with Tom Scott as one of the best KZread channels for geeks and nerds who like to learn :)

@sameerayiesha

7 ай бұрын

Welcome to all things good

@DenisRyan

7 ай бұрын

Welcome to the family! There's lots to enjoy!

@renelopez8227

7 ай бұрын

I remember my first time...

I was a customer service person at a weaving shop for years, handling all the highly technical issues. The day I took a call from JPL and was able to help them out was a really good day for me, too.

One neat trick I learned as a jeweler is that it can be difficult to cut into sharp triangle corners with these saw blades, so what I do is use a diamond lap to make the cutting edge of the blade into a narrow angle. It works incredibly well when you have to cut super intricate patterns in thin material.

@apcherrys7

6 ай бұрын

My approach is slightly different, I would cut down one side of the triangle into the corner, then back up the cut by a few millimetres, e.g. 5 mm then cut across the waste material to the other side of the triangle and cut into the corner approaching from the other side. Once the little triangle waste falls out you can then carry on with the rest of the outline. If the triangle corner has to be a clear V shape I would finish off with a suitable needle file.

Adam, you’re tilting the saw forward which causes the blade to dig in instead of drawing straight down and letting the saw do the work. If you rewatch your video and look at how Brian holds the saw and how you hold it you will see the difference.

@apcherrys7

7 ай бұрын

Agree - that's the trick, hold it vertical the hand is just pushing the blade up and down and steering, the forward motion just happens as the blade cuts. The only time I would tilt it slightly is for really thin sheet, e.g. sometimes end up cutting 5 thou nickel-silver sheet as it effectively makes the sheet slightly thicker.

@PatrickPoet

7 ай бұрын

Brian fixed that by having him hold the saw differently. He never said stop tilting the saw, but the change in grip fixed the problem immediately.

@Sandy.J.Lloyd.Sr.

6 ай бұрын

@@PatrickPoet I never saw Adam correct the angle of attack on the cutting stroke. My hobby for the last 50 years has been making and repairing Intarsia inlays and Marquetry for wood furniture and I’m not embarrassed to say I’m good at it. So you may want to rewatch the video and see if you can spot the difference between Brian’s and Adam’s technique.

@apcherrys7

6 ай бұрын

@@PatrickPoet When learning to use the piercing saw holding it vertical is the best advice IMHO as you practice just moving the blade up and down and not applying any forward pressure, the cutting action allows the blade to move forward of it's own volition. Having the blade vertical makes cutting corners or any change in direction much easier. Once you have the feel of the cut and comfortable with the saw then there are circumstances where tilting the blade helps. I'll cut 5 thou nickel silver sheet with a 6/0 blade, tilting helps because it effectively increases the thickness of the material.

@DavidWagnerMaker

6 ай бұрын

When teaching folks who have any previous making experience, I always refer to a scroll saw. "Imagine you're the machine" gives people a great reminder to use right angles and stop pushing.

We blacksmiths have been cutting 14 ga and 18 ga sheet steel with the #6 and #7 blades for years. I even sawed out a 1/4" thick sear for a pistol out of 4140 with one. Had similar experience as you when I first started. Getting about one inch per blade. Now, even in steel, 6 to 8 inches, then dull, not broken.

It's so fun seeing someone learn stuff. Especially when they are having a good time!

Appreciate the video! I'm a jewelery-specific maker and metalsmithing instructor so can really appreciate the instruction Brian has given. Sawing and piercing can be meditative practices if you just let the saw do the work. Blade lubrication helps, but just listen to the sound of the blade, hold it perpendicular to the work, and just like with any metal working firmly stabilize the piece with your grip - that will cut down on the chatter.

@cholulahotsauce6166

7 ай бұрын

What lubricant?

@awakenyourzen

7 ай бұрын

@@cholulahotsauce6166 there are several industry sold products like, Bur-life, Blade Butter, etc. but beeswax or candle wax can work as well.

@DavidWagnerMaker

6 ай бұрын

@@cholulahotsauce6166 The commercially produced option of choice is BurLife (sold by Rio Grande) or something like it. Many small shops traditionally use a bar of Ivory soap or a hunk of beeswax. I find the cheap options to be just fine for my level of work. You run your blade through it once before you begin, and occasionally as you're cutting - it extends the life of the blade and the maker (by reducing your stress level).

I love Adam’s enthusiasm for learning new stuff. It’s contagious

Possibly one of the most vital videos ever made on Tested. I have one of these Knew Concepts blade handles. I bought it when Adam first had Brian as a guest. Learned tons today!!

20 years ago I had freshly graduated from violin making school and took a summer violin bow making course with Michael Vann. Never used a jewelers saw before and broke all of Vann’s jewelers blades the first day making a template. 20 years later, he still calls me “blade”. Now a jewelers saw has many uses in the shop. The trick really is to let the saw sit in your hand and only move the saw without holding it. Cut the final shape, use the force, you are a Jedi

This was so wonderful to watch. I have not spent a lot of time trying to learn but I could see myself making those same mistakes. This guest is a wonderful teacher who is able to explain things in a very understandable way without overwhelming us with useless information. I feel like I really got something from this video that is rare these days. And Adam’s newfound enthusiasm is infectious.

I love grobet, they make the best fine fìles and saw blades, hi from switzerland.

@leemarsh3569

7 ай бұрын

My favourite make of both!

Yes, this guy knows in his bones what he's doing. Extremely refreshing from the normal frantic content and manic personalities normally associated with 'making'. I had a welding instructor in highschool that was similar in his nonchalant bone knowledge of the subject. It's surprising how fast you can begin intuiting processes with the right teachers. I know aptitude and working knowledge are big factors too.

@Games_and_Music

7 ай бұрын

I agree, i love how confident he is and yet so reserved and casual about his skills. Some pieces that Adam might've struggled with for days, he'd probably go: "Oh yeah, i can do that in an hour or two. All i need is a steady surface and a cup of coffee", without making it sound like a brag. And i do like his approach, practice first, explanation later. It helps for me as well, once you 'get' how it works, once the basics click, you'll recognize the different steps and approaches, instead of doing it the other way around, as i feel that the labeling and compartmentalizing of things messes with the natural flow of learning, at least, in my experience.

Running the blade across some candle wax helps make the strokes smoother. It also keeps the teeth from packing up.

Hi Adam! Hope you snd the team are doing great! Thanks for all you guys do! Always fun to watch you make these cool projects

i took one jewelry class in college and am now an apprentice jeweler, it’s very reassuring to see adam making similar mistakes as i have done. also that saw is so much better than mine, i might have to get one…

@insederec

7 ай бұрын

Knew concepts make awesome saws but don't undersell an old german saw frame. It'll get you by for as long as you're in the business for all of $5.

@Faesharlyn

7 ай бұрын

They're gorgeous and manly but way overengineered... I use a student model from Rio that was like $5, 20 years ago

As a long time professional jeweler I use 8/0 and 4/0 every day. If you want to get really good at using a jeweler's saw, cut some 2" copper or brass squares from thin sheet, draw intricate designs on them, and then cut them out. Now drop the cut squares into a slide projector and blow up the image on a wall and look for defects. Keep working at it until you can get really clean, smooth cuts. After some practice, you'll find it's amazing just how fine and accurate a line you can cut.

I got one of those saws last Christmas after seeing Adam use one. One of the best and most useful tools that I have! These instructions are very useful!!!

Keep the blade vertical ! Love what you are doing , so cool , lg hans

When I was an apprentice jeweller, the first thing my boss taught me was sawing and saw piercing. We only had a normal frame that you'd press into your sternum to flex the saw frame to fit the blade (we used 2/0's exclusively). Move the frame away and it would spread apart and tightening the blade. He told me (this is 1982 btw) to let the saw do the work. We used bees wax as a lubricant. But long gentle strokes. A lot of the time, we would be holding the work in our fingers , leaning against the bench peg. But sheet, it was on the say peg. I'm actually suprised Adam hadn't used these before. Glad he is onto it now though !

Wow, great advice! Thanks guys!

Love the tips, especially about using all your senses. My jewellers saw is rapidly becoming one of my favourite tools.

Really interesting, thanks Adam and the Tested team.

I bought one of their saws after seeing your original video with Brian, I'm a modelmaker in the UK (its a piercing saw here) and usually cut Nickel Silver sheet with mine, using either 5/0 or 8/0 blades, dependent on sheet thickness.. Its SO much better than my old cheap saw frame. I also have one of their steel bench pins. Take your time to learn how to use it and it will be the best tool you own. Thoroughly recommended

Absolutely loved using the Knew saws at work in England. Something that I severely miss and NEEEED in my own workshop now.

Adam, I really do love watching you learn and discover new processes. Rather it was a self-taught lesson or learned from an expert, you are the personification of having fun learning and making mistakes.

This is incredibly useful! I've been using a Knew Concept fret saw (one of the red body models) for a few years now, and they are indeed a bit tricky when it comes to properly loading the blade. This is an excellent demonstration!

IPVanish reminds me of relieving myself in the snow with a thick snowsuite

Finally! A fret saw and a jewellers saw are the same thing. Thank you!❤

I’ve cut with an #8 00 blade and the kerf they made on my jump rings were negligible and good enough for soldering.

@insederec

7 ай бұрын

haha then I'm over here using flush cuts and reversing the cutters to make two flat sections and pushing them together

Great video, and Yes please have Brian back more often.

I have no idea how to do any of this and I love this vid. I hope someone who gets it can learn and hone their craft with this content. Cheers to you, would be a very cool trade to learn and be able to create. Thanks Tested team, super cool

Well well well I need to cut some fine detail in a piece of Brass ADAM You've just helped me so much. Thank You both!

Just watched this, learned a lot about working with my coping saws (mostly for woodworking), already looked up the McMASTER-CARR safety glasses with magnifiers, & bought a pair. 😊

Adam learning is my favourite type of video

Great job guys. Thank you 😊

Lots of good stuff!!! I had the same problem using spiral blades. I especially like the, “Keep marching in place…”

Awesome video! I wish Tested did more instructional stuff... I've learned much from Adam's builds, but this is concentrated goodness.

Adam,the scrollblades are very usefull when your part is to big to rotate inside your sawhandle. The swiss blade brand is Pegas.

Using a jewelers saw is a prime example of letting the tool do the work. Adam, I remember your advice about stopping yourself every time you feel yourself trying to force a blade or knife for safety's sake - same thing here! An additional note: I was in a jewelry program for three years in high school, and our teacher had us cut Lincoln's head out of a penny as accuracy practice for cutting. (It's such a great exercise for precision AND because copper is a nice soft material to start with.) Good luck with the rest of the project.

that was so cool:) I've used their stuff for years and how nice seeing a face. He hit the magic things, relax, don't push, march in place, how to get the right tension, how to tell which way the blade cuts. It's so strange how HARD it seems to learn this stuff because you're trying too hard. As soon as you relax it's magic. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I also contacted their service dept??? once to say that turning a knob took the screw out instead of unscrewing the knob from the screw. I told them I'd already fixed it with loctite and that I didn't need _anything_ from them, I just thought they'd want to know for quality control. They sent me new parts anyway which I never used and still have because my jewelry tools got stolen and I don't have the saw anymore. Sigh.

It's my favourite brother-in-law again! Hi, Brian! See? I DO watch these!

Another very interesting person and discussion. Much learned in such a short interview. Thanks

Those McMaster-Carr double-magnifier safety glasses are item 5116T11 (1.5 diopter), 5116T12 (2.0 diopter) and 5116T13 (2.5 diopter).

"you'll know when you need it" is such good advice. I say it all the time in photography land about some of the more wild equipment out there

Thank you for making this video. I'm a guitar builder and it took me a lot of blades and tears to pull of decent pearl and shell inlays.

Adam should really consider coming to Adepticon in March. Registration opens Jan 7th, but a class would be really cool.

A couple things I noticed here: Brian keeps the saw perpendicular to the floor, and his arm is on the outside of the work, where it seems Adam was fighting with an angled saw, and his arm inside the work (towards the table instead of having room to work outside the table). Just observations of things I'd probably do myself without thinking, but can be noticed on reviewing video. Cool to see the "tech" that goes into something as fine as jewelry making.

Such a great lesson! My earliest memory of getting good cutting with these blades was when my father handed me one blade and a penny with some holes drilled in it, and I used it to cut out almost all the empty space around Lincoln's head before needed a second blade. For anyone trying to learn to get good with this, I'd say to just buy a gross of blades and keep at it until your arm and fingers learn what they need to do. I go with a loose grip, kind of like you see on a fencing foil, because white-knuckling the handle is a sure way to snap blades quickly.

Adam is a life long learner and it's very encouraging for us mere mortal makers. :)

My friend is a goldsmith, and she gave me a very similar lesson last year when I needed to cut out some brass I acid etched.

I always enjoy watching you Adam, because your enthusiasm is as great as mine is with arts and crafts. It’s nice to see a fellow creator, having so much fun.😊❤

Great lesson - never knew this until now - Thanks!

This was amazing. I have a hard time in many cases to do precision cuts in modelling. Now I have to dig into jewelers tools :D

Thank you so much for sharing these, I have been wanting to start learning how to make jewelry and your videos have shown me...that I'm not ready yet lol!!! kidding, they have been very informative and have helped me in making a list of tools I'll nneed to begin. Much appreciated and always a fan, thanks for sharing.

21:00 seeing bits of arcane knowledge passed along in real time is absolutely incredible

Hey Adam. Glad to see you moving onto more indepth metal handsawing. its a great way to relax...once you get some practice. Before the practice its even more frustrating. I find a 4/0 is my go to for most ornate sawing. I've got a new concepts aluminum model and I do like to use. But if you can find a good vintage saw with a narrow throat I find it a bit more accurate mostly due to having less material hanging behind the blade. I also have an antique 18 inch deep one... and as Brian said, don't use something like that unless you know you need it.

Love listening to someone that knows their stuff!

This guy is one of my favorites! Reminds me of an old friend.

This was so fun to watch. I’m a metalsmith and the Knew Concepts saw is my absolute favorite to use.

Thanks for this video now I know how some of the fine detail work is done just need a Master like Brian.

Brilliant video , Brian is a master , everyone could learn from him .

You won my heart at "I grock" :) understanding on a deeper level indeed.

Some of these tips cross over from pool. A precise up and down from the elbow... Like the hanging pivot from the elbow in pool... Cool video. Thanks

Great work sir 👏 👍

learned how to use these from a master jeweler when I was in art school, used them in a Delta walking beam scroll saw also, as long as they are tensioned properly

"Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast."

Great video!

Sawing at a 90 degree angle will help tons! Cheers Brian!

Good info

Buying a Knew Concepts saw was one of the best tool purchases I ever made as a jeweller, the weight difference alone has saved my wrist hours of pain. Side note, as someone who has been introduced to so many tools through this channel, it's a weird feeling seeing Adam learning to use a tool that is such a mundane part of my life 😅

I never knew I needed this this much

🥰 i can't wait to work with jewelry again someday

I really appreciate your technique includes bringing in other experts.

I've been a production bench jeweler for almost ten years now, mostly working with Sterling (.925) and Fine (.999) silver, followed by 14K yellow, rose, and white gold, and copper. I rarely have a need to do fine jewelry work such as what Adam was/is trying to do, because we have a production time of three to five business days. That said, I still use a 0000 blade in my saw. I've found it's a good balance of cutting vs. the rare turns I need to make, as opposed to the 000 blades I used when I started out. My boss, on the other hand, can cut circles around me. She also started making jewelry when she was 15, so has been doing this for 31 years now.

I literally did not understand a single word of this, but I loved every second!

Let the tool do the work , best advice ever !!

I actually just started with this myself. I wanted to learn how to make historically accurate trade jewelry and trade goods from the Colonial era for reenactors and how intricate it can be with the jeweler saws and also how and the way to use the saw so that you don't bind or break the blades.

Was not expecting a space science angle, awesome!

Brian Meek ROCKS!! 🤘🏻♥️

My jewelers saw has been my most used saw for 10 years, I only very recently bought a rotary tool with any kind of cutting wheel, so any time I've been crafting it has been the same combination of fine saw blade and a set of needle files. I can't speak highly enough of them.

Worked in the jewellery trade for a number of years and the best tip for piercing work I ever got is to run the blade through some candle wax, it works as a less messy lubricant than oil and whatever else you may want to use, and it's dirt cheap.

Great video! I didn't see that anyone mentioned using beeswax to lubricate the blade. They tend to last longer if you keep q small block nearby to drag them into occasionally.

I've been using one of these for just over two years making brass cuttings. I have posted some on my Facebook page and sell them. Made to order

Straight up and down movements help smooth your cuts and lubricating the blade with bees wax helps them last longer

Today I learned, you have the same vision as myself. I baffle many by taking my glasses off and seeing better at close range.

Jakarta Diecast project used the jewelers file on KZread to modify Hot Wheels cars. I bought a handle, grobet files and went to heaven !! The most used tool on my bench. Cutting brass tubes, cutting plastic and of course cutting open the doors of trunks of die cast cars:)

What a difference an expert makes!

what a great video: festina lente!

Amazing! Also, use some sort of blade lubricant, like Rio Grande's Bur Life, basically a wax you cut into to coat the blade for each cut.

I’m such a dork for understanding almost everything they say to each other.

This was one of the hardest things for me to get the hang of when i started bench working!

I recommend Rio Grande jewelry supply for materials and tools. I’m a jeweler or silversmith and I’m geeking out so much. Sawing is hard depending on the type of jewelry you’re doing. Ergonomics in jewelry is sooooo important

@olivialeyba9296

6 ай бұрын

Don’t forget Bur life! It’s a lubricant for saw blades and it helps a lot!

Omg i would love to teach Adam how to use a jewelers saw!