*I should get one of these...*

@JasonWW2000

11 ай бұрын

Speak of the devil. Lol.

@RiceFromHell

11 ай бұрын

as soon as adam mentioned your youtube i scrolled down to see if you commented and im happy you did. love seeing my favorite youtubers mention each other.

@Beligol

11 ай бұрын

I don't know if you can find Adam Savages out there besides this one. If you do, please tell us where we can get them.

@johnmendon18

11 ай бұрын

Just bought two of your wrenches thanks to the "hold your nuts" video. Great stuff

@charlesroybal4573

11 ай бұрын

You have one don't you?

The manufacture of the vise, at the page you have linked has provided a very heartfelt thank you to Adam for purchasing and putting out a video on the fractal vise. They state that: we were suddenly overwhelmed by the number of enquiries and orders we received for our fractal vise! And directly attribute this boon in sales to Adam.

@-Kailinn-

11 ай бұрын

It's nice to see, country doesn't matter when humanity reaches beyond the ocean.

@steveskouson9620

11 ай бұрын

I saw a shot, of this vise on Adan's workbench there. steve

@FullOilBarrel

11 ай бұрын

made me smile lol

@Dee-nonamnamrson8718

10 ай бұрын

@Kailinn92 I wish that were the case. The Chinese people are great, and very industrious. Their government, on the other hand, is a tyrannical monstrosity that is a threat to global peace.

@breaddrinker

10 ай бұрын

The price is now nearly double... Yay.

He's like a kid on Christmas morning. Complete and utter disregard for any packaging, just pure joy and excitement for what is inside. So wholesome!

@hughneutron5303

10 ай бұрын

i would hope so. that thing is $3,600usd

@IllVibesChillRide

4 ай бұрын

I saw the video.

I love people like Adam that can make me totally engrossed and enthusiastic about a thing I couldn't have cared less about 12 seconds ago. These are the people that truly teach us.

@IllVibesChillRide

4 ай бұрын

Ok. Ya?

Machinist here: Adam, use a fine lapping compound to really slick up the vise. JB's bore paste is one that I would recommend, it's what gunsmiths use to lap in the bores of target rifles or to slick up an action. The only caveat is, you will have to manually work the paste in the assembly to promote the surfaces to wear together, but something tells me you won't mind spending a few hours getting her polished up. Awesome find!

@Falenir

11 ай бұрын

Didnt he literally say he was going to do that? I mean, it's nice to confirm and validate his thoughts I guess. Maybe he wasn't sure he was right already?

@ADR1fley

11 ай бұрын

​@@FalenirAdam did ask for advice towards the end of the video

@firstlast-ml8di

11 ай бұрын

@@Falenir there are various grit and if too aggressive roughness, can bind and make it work worse.

@FPSG

11 ай бұрын

For better action, you would want to increase the number of points of contact. It would be difficult to do with the geometry. Probably some 20 micron or coarser diamond on a nylon or horse hair brush. Possibly a basswood stick in circles. Possibly a cone type brush in a dremel to make non-uniform scratches on the mating surfaces to break up the contact points. Finish with semicrome or blue rouge or similar to de burr cuts made by the diamond. If there was some way to adjust the tolerance, it would be easy. Also, a machinist here. Worked for 10 years in extrusion, making dies, slitters, and punches. Now, I'm doing maintenance for robotic welding and hot forming.

@InsanityOnWheels

11 ай бұрын

Question for the machinists. Are there preferred faces to try and remove material from? For example the surroundings of the dovetails over the dovetails themselves, or vice versa.

I love how Adam instantly starts figuring out how to make it better. Wonderful video for many reasons. Adam, I appreciated your comments about the Chinese factory worker/team who simply DID IT.

@danaclass

11 ай бұрын

Just wanted to say that I appreciate your work also, and I have my kids watch your stuff because it's quality, entertaining, and educational. You're great.. So is Adam 😜

@TinasheKavumbura

11 ай бұрын

When I saw him use it for the first time after unboxing I knew Adam was going to do a one-day build for a better handle.

@thun4102

11 ай бұрын

Chinese manufacturers are perfectly capable of extremely high precision fabrication, but just like anywhere else, you get what you pay for. If you only want to pay a couple hundred bucks for something like this, then the quality is going to suffer. Even at this price point, that is extremely cheap for the delivered product.

@custardcatcher5195

11 ай бұрын

theres a myth the hole in the ozone wasnt made by man can u help! 90% of humans live north of the equator! why do aerosols migrate to the south pole to burn a hole there?

@jackmcslay

11 ай бұрын

I also hope the resurgence of the fractal vice has made someone proud of his great-grandfather

Adam Savage is an absolute legend. I grew up on Mythbusters it has shaped my whole way of thinking. One of my favorite things about mythbusters and something I appreciate to this day is Adam's enthusiasm and love for what he does..

@lev2328

10 ай бұрын

Same for me!!! He's really amazing.

@user-qs7rm6kt7m

10 ай бұрын

Yep great show to bad it is no more.

The unbridled joy on the face of this man has been with me from childhood, and it does not lessen into adulthood.

@gabriel_gelli

10 ай бұрын

His passion and excitement in making things and appreciating cool products is definitely contagious, inspiring and heartwarming. Regardless of age, this is the approach to life I mostly look for and admire. :)

It’s cool to see the seller now has a note thanking Adam for making this known.

@tmzwcky

11 ай бұрын

Seems like an opportunity for a trip to China to do a video with the maker...

@pete_lind

11 ай бұрын

Still too complex , they need to just sell the fractal grip parts , not hard to attach those to any bench vise , jaw surfaces on modern ones are screwed on , so you can easily remove those , as intended , put in a angle iron with a pin to put that fractal grip on .

@baseballjustin5

11 ай бұрын

One of the images on Alibaba is from Adam's video lol

@legofreak5769

11 ай бұрын

i hope that person got a raise 😂

@holmes1956O

11 ай бұрын

@@pete_lind sounds easy but what you are considering is more complex than what you have stated

Watching him fawn over it like a kid on Christmas morning is honestly really heartwarming. The man is doing what he loves.

@tested

11 ай бұрын

#Truth

@Tsuchimursu

11 ай бұрын

If only kids got this excited

@pete_lind

11 ай бұрын

@@tested 2 years old YT clip ... Morphing Fractal Engraving Vise Jaws ... its on some Nebraska company , no production . Only thing you need are those fractal grips , you could attach those to any bench vise , not hard to replace jaw surfaces with an angle iron with a pin welded on it . Both jaws do not need to move it to work , keep it simple 🙂

@hahaepic4165

11 ай бұрын

@@pete_lind Why is jerry rigging your own fractal vice by sourcing a bunch of diff parts simpler than just buying an actual fractal vice off ali?

@pete_lind

11 ай бұрын

@@hahaepic4165 Sending plain fractal grip jaws is cheaper than sending the whole bench vice . People who are seeking these most likely have at least one bench vise . Then again there already are cheap vises that can handle holding chrome moly pipes , those can also clamp down other obscure objects , if the only thing you are seeking is to keep the object in place . Adams motivation is wanting to own weird things , nothing to do with practicality .

As an IT guy, what you were saying about the "can-do" attitude of Chinese manufacturing really reminds me of something I like to say to my colleagues and that is "If it exists, then the Chinese have made an adapter for it." 😄 They really do have a talent for thinking of products that maybe only a few people might need and then just making them, and aren't really bothered by thoughts like "How many of these can we sell?"

@memkiii

9 ай бұрын

Or, is it patented...

@macupgrader

9 ай бұрын

@@memkiii Also true, unfortunately. I was thinking of the more generic stuff to be fair though.

@crispybatman480

8 ай бұрын

​@@macupgradercheap labor == low overhead.

@LanceThumping

8 ай бұрын

@@macupgrader There are some that probably find it fortunate at times.

@jamesm1

7 ай бұрын

Fractal vice was invented over 100 years ago@@memkiii

I would highly recommend numbering the parts if you are going to put work into mating them. They were made close enough to interchange new, but as you lap them together they will become mates finding the average of each others error. I'm not sure without holding it just which surfaces bear the force first as they compress into each other, or if those might benefit from some cross hatching like a cylinder bore to hold oil. I'm glad you picked this up, and thank you for sharing it with us all.

@twelvewingproductions7508

10 ай бұрын

Exactly. I think that's what I was trying to get at in my reply. Making a copy of something that was invented and perfected a hundred years ago or more isn't going to accurately represent the hand tuning and understanding they had back in a more hands on era.

I've never been happier for a man and his vice. I hope you two find true happiness together.

@TheGreatAtario

11 ай бұрын

*vise

@jasonostack9319

11 ай бұрын

@@TheGreatAtariothis is definitely adam’s vice

@digi3218

11 ай бұрын

He's like a kid in a candy shop lol. I get this excited I guess when I order junk for my truck 😂

@joho0

11 ай бұрын

@@jasonostack9319 rofl I'm not changing it

@robinlehnerd1475

11 ай бұрын

It just depends on if he can get the mating surfaces to fit together smoothly.

fun fact: the bearing surface being on the circumference is critical to how these work, because the center of pressure for each crescent must be BEHIND the center of rotation. This means that when you apply pressure to a crescent, it rotates TOWARD the source of the pressure, instead of what would normally happen, which is an object rotates away from applies pressure. If you look, the crescents are actually slightly less than half a circle. So if there was a standard axle, it would be partially outside the circle

3 things. 1 what a beautiful piece of equipment and craftsmanship! 2 I’m so glad Adam found a home on KZread where I can always go to watch one of the most influential people of my childhood and 3 I appreciate Adams appreciation of the tool, the craftsmanship and the people who made it possible for him to have one. Can’t wait to see how Adam makes it his!

The fact that Adam correctly grabbed the right size Allen wrench TWICE on this tool is another glaring example of his experience and skill... That likely 99% of the viewers never notice... A master of his level is rare.

@TransistorBased

11 ай бұрын

I've always had a disproportionate amount of luck getting Allen wrenches. No idea why

@pocket83squared

11 ай бұрын

@@TransistorBased So have I. Or at least apparently so. It's probably just confirmation bias. And geez, OP, that's because of editing: notice a few seconds after 5:00.

@johnseidel8971

11 ай бұрын

Us tool users noticed.

@thebiglimey

11 ай бұрын

that's a well-calibrated MK1 eyeball!

@jeanartemis868

11 ай бұрын

@@TransistorBased I'm a firm believer that luck is specialized. I've never won so much as a dollar in any lotto or raffle I've played but the amount of times i've come out of, let's say, less than OSHA level practices ending in critical failure, completely or nearly unscathed leads me to believe that's where the entirety of my luck has fallen lol (There's also a lot to be said for subconscious level thinking and the ADHD minds excellence at object and pattern recognition, both of which prolly lend themselves to "gauge guessing"...)

Adam, your child-like enthusiasm for everything you do is infectious and adorable and I hope you never lose that. Love this channel and your outlook and attitude and I wish nothing but the best for you and yours.

@CleoKawisha-sy5xt

11 ай бұрын

first name basis? he's not gonna read your comment, i wonder why ego maniacs even bother, as if you're offering the guy advice..does it give u a sense of worth?

@nathanthehappy180

11 ай бұрын

@@CleoKawisha-sy5xt are you okay bro, his names in the channel name its clearly fine to refer to him as Adam

@SkorpioVenom

11 ай бұрын

@@CleoKawisha-sy5xt Whats he supposed to call him? Tested? Mythbusters guy? His name is Adam and his public image is the same...

I'm glad you mentioned the "faceless factory worker". It's something even I find myself doing at times, and it's definitely good to recognize that every product was worked on by at least one human at some point along the way. Unfortunately it's easy for people to dehumanize others when they don't see them directly though...

@sierrasanders675

11 ай бұрын

That was my favorite part of the video. There are some obviously bad products coming out of China - lead paint covered toothbrushes come to mind - but people act like everything coming out of there is made poorly or is made for nefarious reasons. But there are human beings no different from us who want to create like anyone else. The entire idea that people need to be reminded of that is saddening but its nice to see someone so prominent not forgetting the human behind the scenes.

@VaioletteWestover

11 ай бұрын

​​​​@@sierrasanders675China makes things to spec as requested. Shoddy products are almost always ordered by WESTERN companies wanting to sell a 200 dollar product for 10 and making 9.80 dollars in profit. Brands from China offer some of the highest quality and cost to value ratio or are simply cutting edge. Huawei, Hikvision etc. come to mind where they are so hypercompetitive or just crushing of competition that we need to activate the entire propaganda apparatus of a nation to try and defame and ban them. What I mean to say is that poor quality products is not a China reflection of China's manufacturing prowess or competence, but rather a function of the greed of western corporations who outsource there.

@phillyphakename1255

11 ай бұрын

I think it's good to remember that the dehumanization comes from the business. It isn't a human making things best they can in corporate lingo, it is outsourced labor making widgets with manufacturing efficiency and cost reduction as the optimizing factor. The business and consumer pressures are what creates chinesium, not the quality of the workers. The workers are just designing to the spec. Its why harbor freight drills made in China contain a significantly higher percentage of chinesium than the DeWalt ones also made in China.

@ergerg2

11 ай бұрын

@@phillyphakename1255 I have buddies who worked on multiple occasions in different industries with outsourced manufacturing in China. He had the same experience as nearly everyone else he and I spoke with. Chinese factories tended to cut corners. To get quality spec out of the country, the impression I got was that you need to play hardball and enforce standards yourself to a much higher degree then other countries. There are reasons for this, but the culture in general has a serious lack of construction and manufacturing standards, and it runs deeper then what can be explained by pressure to reduce costs. Obama released a documentary called A Chinese Factory that's worth watching on the subject. The high quality manufacturers in China are exceptional at what they do, in both HR and the craft itself, I have the utmost respect for them.

@duplox

10 ай бұрын

Well put. There's a correlation between Chinese(or any number of other countries) manufactured goods and poor quality, but not a causation. The goods aren't poor quality because they're from China - they're poor quality for the same reason they're from China. People want the lowest prices. Labor is cheap in China, and low quality materials/loose tolerances/low quality control/low quality engineering is cheap. So when consumers see both together over and over again, they assume causation.

I feel like a rubber head for each of the smallest pieces might be useful. The rubber would allow the vise to conform better to what it is gripping.. it would be like an infinite fractal vise. And because the pressure would be more uniformly distributed you could grip stuff like wood without worrying so much about damaging it

@thomasdalton1508

9 ай бұрын

It wouldn't hold it as still, though, since the rubber would compress and expand as you applied forces to the item being held.

@lindyhoppingfool

9 ай бұрын

You are on the right track!

@ra3or

9 ай бұрын

cut 2 horizontal dovetail canals on the outer pieces of just one side(should be more than enough) and insert interchangeable teflon, pvc, rubber, wood, etc... depending on what material you need gripped

@ra3or

9 ай бұрын

or just one vertical canal, on the near edge of the outermost pieces

@thomasdalton1508

9 ай бұрын

@@ra3or I don't think it works to have it only on the outermost pieces. The whole point is that you can grip things of any shape, so the outermost pieces may not be the most critical.

What a joy watching you being so overwhelmed with piece of engineering, like a little kid. I'm gonna show this to my daughter (18) who says that I am like a big child (in a most negative sense) to show her that it is really ok to be like that. Thank you Adam, thank you! You always make such great and real unedited non-fancy videos.

as a chinese hobbyist woodworker, and somebody who watched every episode of Mythbusters. i appriciate the recognition from Adam. You have inspired me and a whole generation of us to go on the path of being a maker. There are moments where I have to smile and say "thank you" when somebody learns I'm from china and said "you are one of your good ones"; then there is Adam showing nothing but respect in a personal and genuine way. Im speechless on how wholesome Adam is. regardless of whatever shenanigans our governments are up to and the ideology differences, the world is truly a better place with him.

@bonerforest96

11 ай бұрын

Shenanigans like Genociding Uyghurs and doing gain of function research on coronaviruses

@Jack-og9ox

11 ай бұрын

In my experience, in all my travels, I've found that everywhere you'll see the same basic mixture of people. Most people just want to live their lives, most people don't want to hurt or inconvenience anyone else. Most people want peace, safety, and independence. You'll get a few people who are greedy, a few who lust for power, and a few who just want to hurt people, but you'll find these everywhere. In our government, in yours, anywhere. Much love from Texas, partner.

@MattEnwright

11 ай бұрын

@@Jack-og9ox Well spoken.

@Paxmax

11 ай бұрын

As anyone else who has spent some time working abroad, the people are like people are, very nice and friendly. The friction powder that grinds all our gears are sprinkled from above, if not by gov't directly its because gov't of past that may have tainted the culture... and it is annoying but given some time face to face working together one quickly finds out that we have 95% in common... and beer bridges the rest 😆

@Varksterable

11 ай бұрын

@@Jack-og9ox It's observational bias, really, isn't it? Apart from our effectively minute circle of close friends, most people we hear about are via the media. And they pick either the very, very good, or the very, very bad. After all; who wants to hear about countless people just doing normal things?* The bad side of people/things usually makes better news stories because of the shock value (and if you are in the UK the fact they you can moan about how dreadful everything is and tut a lot). Adam is to be utterly commended for the way he conveys a much closer-to-reality perspective in such a humble, insightful and selfless way. As other people have said; it's heart-warming and it's wholesome. * I had to think quite carefully after writing that about things like Facebook and KZread. My contention is that even there you will gravitate towards whichever side of the spectrum you prefer, and it will still be a very small slice of the entire picture. YMMV

The more people know about the fractal vice, the more people will want one, and the more practical it will be for companies to make affordable ones.

@northwoods3d

11 ай бұрын

the law of supply and demand Adam has created a demand for these now, so the supply will need to catch up, lol

@JohnVanderbeck

11 ай бұрын

The problem is this takes very high manufacturing tolerances, and hand assembly. It is a high precision instrument masquerading as a dumb shop tool. $2500 may be high but probably not that high for such a construction.

@mandelorean6243

11 ай бұрын

As cool and satisfying as it is, it's actually kind of impractical,.. not sure what uses it had in mind without a hand crank bar

@Cristopher.C

11 ай бұрын

the way each piece connects to each other without the need of complicated components or tiny pieces like screws or being bolted or anything makes me think that it should be cheaper than other tools that need more complicated construction. as long as the pieces are accurately constructed it's relatively easy assembly should reduce it's cost. it's so expensive because it's an uncommon design

@icannon6611

11 ай бұрын

They'll get cheaper but they'll never be cheap,

Thanks for touring our Blue Engine Factory in Huntsville Adam! So many of us would have loved to meet you, but we're all a fan, and many of us are also fellow Makers! Thanks for the inspiration over the years!

I was just joyed to see how excited you were with this marvel of engineering. You and Jamie lived in our home with our children for years on Mythbusters. My youngest son age 24 and in medical school now is convinced the mouse fearing elephant episode was do to his letter. I'm just starting GenXGeorge on youtube. I was injured and left in a wheelchair at age 34 when my boys were just 6 and 12. You helped bring levity into a family where it was desperatley needed. Thank You.

The mark of a true maker is to be appreciative, amazed and excited by someone else's quality work. And I love how Adam shows those things.

@The_Scattered_Man

11 ай бұрын

Agreed! And more: the mark of a TRUE Maker: voiding ANY conceivable warranty on your $2500 new purchase within SECONDS of getting it out of the box because he can see how it can be improved and KNOWS what he's doing! (probably ;-) ) 👍👍

@gushhnet

11 ай бұрын

@@The_Scattered_Man With machining tools from overseas you kind of know what you're getting into: you are buying a project, but it often works out because you couldn't possibly make it for less and you have a great starting point. Some lathe chucks / tools from overseas are great, they just require some work. Hobbyists can afford to work a few hours on something they just bought Companies on the other hand that's another story they mostly need a warranty and a proper working product right out of the box, delivered, setup, within tolerance and repeatable. They know they can get the right tool and the right replacement at any time from whatever company they work with and that's a great insurance to have as a company. But of course it depends....

Adam and the guys should reach out to the factory and see if they can work out an interview or chat with the engineer behind this tool. It may require a translator but it would be awesome to hear the story on how this thing was revived.

@hunterwyeth

11 ай бұрын

I’d love to see this

@J.C...

11 ай бұрын

It'd be wayyyy easier to talk to the folks that make the Titan Fractal Vise in the US. I literally found this in 10 seconds. Not sure how Adam missed it.

@heeelion134

11 ай бұрын

it was from china it was a copy of the original... lol there would be no interview

@timpointing

11 ай бұрын

@@J.C... Except, of course, that this fractal vise is only available for pre-order - you can put a deposit down ($75-$150), but even *they* don't know the final price

@killerpoopguy

11 ай бұрын

@@J.C... He literally said he is on the preorder list for it

Watching Adam get so excited makes me feel a little better about the world

This video just feels great. It's like hanging out in the workshop with Adam instead of watching TV. Really enjoyed this, thank you!

I can't even tell you the number of times I wished there was a way to secure odd shaped parts while I worked on them.... never even knew something like this existed until you showcased it on your channel. Thank you, Adam for sharing our love of cool tools with us!

@MonkeyJedi99

11 ай бұрын

The solution I've usually seen is to add wood or metal wedges or blocks to "fill the gaps".

@LolSho0orTs

11 ай бұрын

I never did this kind of work and i saw this tool before

@lassikinnunen

11 ай бұрын

A lot of jb weld works. Kinda expensive in the long run....

I love how Adam gets so mesmerized by the parts and what he is doing that, around 12:50, he just sort of trails off and is lost in his world polishing the parts! That's a sign of someone in love with their work! Love it!!!❤

My late uncle,a machinist, had one of these for his many projects. I always wondered what it was called. Thanks for sharing the video post and finally sharing the name of this wonderful piece of work. I would bet that many a machinist praised the day these were invented and produced. One of the many examples of human ingenuity. ❤big ups to its invention and the people who made it possible. Best of luck 🍀to you and yours 🦅🌎⚓️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

Thank you, thank you, thank you for making a video about Fractal Vises. They are so unique and unusual, I cannot get enough of their design and function. I'm happy to see you discovered them as well and can't wait to dive into the video to hear your thoughts on such an interesting tool.

The pure joy with which you approach everything never fails to make me smile.

Lapping compound will be great for adjusting *clearances* (it works against both surfaces), but if the clearances are good, I suggest simply polishing the mating surfaces. Use a piece of leather and make miniature strops with polishing compound. You should be able to cut the leather to fit the dovetail slots and just lightly polish the surface. This method won't significantly change the mating tolerances because you'll be only be removing .0001" or even .00001" from 1 face at a time.

If your going to remachine it you should consider adding a small indentation to the top of each semi circle or pair of indentations offset from center, and make a tool that's basically just a pin on a handle, then you could insert the tool into those indentations and make fine adjustments while tightening it by hand, similar to how the original set screws worked. Really cool tool.

I can only imagine how much Adam is geeking out on this because I am only watching and I'm geeking out plenty. That thing is beautiful.

Hand tool rescue is an amazing channel and a great laugh every time. I hope everyone has time to give it a shot.

I saw that original fractal vice restoration video, and it was marvelous. How thrilling to know that someone, anyone, is making brand new ones! There's an awful lot of precise machining that goes into one of those things. Too expensive for me, but well worth the asking price anyway. Thanks for sharing your new toy with us, Adam!

@hunterra217

11 ай бұрын

2400 for such a specialized tool is actually pretty damn reasonable imo, even if it has some issues lol

@kruleworld

11 ай бұрын

Me too. hopefully he gets a few more subscribers from this publicity.

Machinist here, a lapping compound would be a great way to loosen those jaws up. I would say that after you lap them, to not use way oil as lubricant. Something with that tight of a tolerance with that heavy of an oil will pull a bit of resistance, especially on cold days. I'd use 3 in 1 oil for that, or just whatever the least viscous oil you have around is. Thanks for always showing so much excitement for the field too!

@borjesvensson8661

10 ай бұрын

Sewing machine oil is perfect for lubricating moving parts, really fine and available all over the place

@briangodfrey7424

9 ай бұрын

+1 on the lapping compound. Steel wool made me cringe.

Fractalvice would be a sick name for a band.

Adam, when I saw the Handtool Rescue episode about the fractal vise, I too coveted one. Congratulations of finding one! You might want to consider machining a duplicate set of the smallest jaws in a softer, non marring material like bronze, brass, or aluminum for holding pieces you don't want to mark with the clamping force.

@Harbingerx81

11 ай бұрын

If I had this vice and Adam's tools and skills, I'd probably make half a dozen different sets of jaws, especially to do some testing before deciding the best way to modify the mating surface.

@johnherrmann7464

11 ай бұрын

... or, perhaps, 3D print the jaws (?)

@mafftv3801

11 ай бұрын

If I had one and the machines to do that, that would definitely be a very good idea! Set of, nylon, brass, wood and maybe rubber caps

@anthonyruiz-carvalho31

11 ай бұрын

Perhaps just make a duplicate set of clamps and somehow adhere rubber or some sort of soft grippy material to the faces rather than metal

@nickl6820

11 ай бұрын

@@johnherrmann7464 The issue with 3D printing, regardless of if it is plastic or metal, is going to be the lack of smoothness of the mating surfaces. At minimum the mating surfaces would need to be machined to achieve a nice smooth surface to allow proper low friction movement of the jaws.

Adam,I've been watching you since I was a teenager, now I'm in my early 40s and you have inspired me all this time to build,tinker,and invent. I'm passing all of this to my kids. Thank you.

@sikhandtakerakhuvar3372

11 ай бұрын

... and now, after reading that comment, Adam's next project will be a walker. :^)

It is a rare sort of person who can spend $2,500 on a tool and then be excited for the minor flaws because that means they can tinker. :) Thank you for being such an example of positivity. I know it's not the entirety of your existence, but I appreciate you choosing to emphasise that in your public face. It inspires me to fight my own inclination towards grouchiness.

I really like that, despite being excited for his fractal vice, Adam's a real one for commenting on the parts he wants to fix already.

Adam you are a beacon of positive energy in this world and I for one greatly appreciate you.

@Whmst

11 ай бұрын

pull up his pants when youre done, would ya

I love the impulse you have to think of products deeply to the point of considering the minds responsible for their manufacture. That's a powerful lesson, and I wish more people would learn it. I'm trying!

I actually watched the Hand Tool Rescue video about a year ago. I'd never heard of a fractal vise until then, and finding out they were first made a hundred years ago simply amazed me! As one poster (and Adam) mentioned, numbering the corresponding pieces is important due to the low tolerance necessary to make it work smoothly....especially with the machining equipment they used back then. Amazing!

I love your enthusiasm and excitement about this piece of hardware. I love learning about things that I have no idea about by watching your channel!

i was intrigued by the idea of the vice, but the sheer joy shown by adam is what made this vid worth it

I hope the person who engineered this piece sees this video and feels that their work is appreciated.

@fredio54

11 ай бұрын

Unlikely given people there are not permitted basic freedoms such as watching KZread or having an independent thought or opinion.

@1683clifton

11 ай бұрын

Seeking permission for thought seems like a problem too many entertain, yet few actually are so inclined to follow.

@ibomby4641

11 ай бұрын

They have already seen it, and updated their product pages (they seem to have two versions of it).

@ibomby4641

11 ай бұрын

@@fredio54 You know what's really funny? KZread is censoring the name of the company over which these are sold, but they already have watched the video ...

@jamesjameson4566

11 ай бұрын

The person who engineered this piece is long dead, the people who copied this piece speak Cantonese

Adam Savage is an amazing man with an amazing mind...I am absolutely intrigued by him and his way of thinking...keep the content coming A.S.

That is one sexy set up of a vice. So happy that you gave the tool maker a plug. That is how I felt working on lathes and machining tools.

Great to see someone making new versions of this, I remember watching Hand Tool Rescue unearth and restore the original of this and it genuinely amazes me it was almost lost to time. Such a fascinating tool that so many people probably realised they really need.

This would be awesome with interchangeable tooth sets, such as nylon, brass, wood, etc for holding different materials while minimizing surface damage. Could be the entire final teeth, or just mountable pads w/different surface grits/materials.

@massspectrometer6757

11 ай бұрын

This is exactly what i was thinking. Maybe a rubber pad made en masse to preserve the leading edge.

@littlekong7685

11 ай бұрын

First place i worked at did that. They did furniture repair and had a vice like this with soft rubber caps over the teeth for holding finished wood and metal.

@mafftv3801

11 ай бұрын

Good idea

@nothere7198

11 ай бұрын

Same thoughts here. Multiple sets of final crescents. Some might be doable with a good 3D printer. Or maybe the manufacturer sells them separate ? and they could be surface tooled or coated ?

@joemacleod-iredale2888

11 ай бұрын

Running a strip of cycle inner tube along each side would be a quick and dirty way to achieve this…

Sooo cool! It's like a physical embodiment of a Fourier Transform.

I saw that hand tool rescue video a couple years ago and had never seen such a thing, and I buy and sell machine tools regularly. So I thought it was pretty nifty. A month later, I found a much simpler version at auction and had to have it. It is more of a drill press vise, with a static and dynamic jaw, each with two semi-spheres. So only 4 semi-spheres total, but after going through it very carefully, cleaning and polishing the mating surfaces, it glides like silk and has proved incredibly helpful on a few projects where the workpiece was too funky to clamp in a standard vise. Great find, Adam!

Love seeing his excitement and respect for the design and those who executed it.

Oh my god, that's not just a tool, it's a work of art and mechanical brilliance! I really hope that Adam honors the spirit of it and makes as many of his modifications as mechanical and high tolerance as possible.

@ravencornell7687

11 ай бұрын

Hand tool rescue’s video is absolutely fantastic, has a full breakdown and restoration and explanation.

@Tearnofear

11 ай бұрын

the turninghandle killed it for me, positionfixing of the shaft aswell. It's the cheapest version they could do =( (sure, i can fix it myself but still)

Listening to Adam fiddle with it, sentences began and ahs and oos... Such fun and joy in the lack of words!

Adam, I encountered the fractal vise on the same video you did. I've wanted one ever since and let me just say... You have acquired the holy grail of shop unobtanium. I totally get your excitement because I could only dream of being able to grab one like you did. Congrats on winning "maker shop"!

Adam, your warmth as an individual is contagious, and charming. This product and this video are simply amazing. Thanks for the warm, cheerful comments that you made regarding the individual(s) who decided to make the vise. Cheers to you and to the makers!

The design is somehow simple and elegant... whilst also being incredibly complicated. I've seen these vices before, but the teardown here really highlighted the simplicity and complexity.

17:53 lol this guy is singing. That is true happiness 😂 ❤

It is a beautiful thing to see another human being get so excited about a fractal vice. Makers, fixers and tinkerers of the world unite!

It would be really interesting to see a video tracking down the engineer (or team) that decided to build this specific vice and talking to them about it.

@mrhaftbar

11 ай бұрын

patented in 1920 ...

@eduardwalhout1740

11 ай бұрын

The chances of them speaking english are pretty slim. But great job on them for sure.

@kevinwasilauskis8943

11 ай бұрын

Paulin Karl Kunze patented this in 1913.

@ManabiLT

11 ай бұрын

Since it's based off an old US patent (early 1900s), and there's been increased interest in them lately due to Hand Tools Rescue finding and restoring one, the thought process was probably "this is popular in the US maker space right now, let's make some and sell them."

@wesbrown5601

11 ай бұрын

If Adam wanted to do that, his best bet would be to get ahold of @Naomi-Wu , she is a major maker/builder in Shenzhen, China. I bet if anyone could put them it touch it would be her.

I work as a machinist and I have never seen a fractal vise, but it seems like a cool idea. It seems like it would be good to hold things like cast parts, but I think it's drawback is the smooth gripping surfaces. I would be cool if you could change out the smallest pcs with something that had serrations. If you were looking to make the parts move/slide more easily I would start with rounding out the sharp corners of the mating parts. Most interference comes from sharp corners not being as sharp due to tool wear, so slightly chamering/deburring/buffing sharp corners of the mating parts can help parts slide against each other.

@Dinckle

11 ай бұрын

yeah, although it looks like Adam modified the jaws a bit since they look different in the thumbnail

@firedale2002

11 ай бұрын

The flat gripping surfaces aren't part of the actual original; there's an opening to allow for more grip with finer points to grab. That's part of what he discussed in the video in altering the flat gripping area. If you look up the video in question, you can see that the grasping areas are actually like large serrations that end at an angle and not flat. He may alter it to do the exact thing you're talking about, just different because the points are just one each side of the semicircle; there's no flat area with multiple small serrations. Since it only gives two points of firm grip instead of a flat line of small serrated grips, it can swivel to hold more abnormally-shaped things.

@johnherrmann7464

11 ай бұрын

I suppose you could disassemble the vise, like Adam did, and sandblast the gripping surfaces. BE SURE to CLEAN all the parts thoroughly before reassembly!!!!

@Imugi007

11 ай бұрын

The original ones do not have smooth gripping surfaces.

@kamenriderblade2099

11 ай бұрын

What about putting on small Laser Cut Rubber Grip Strips that have a Adhesive backing. This would avoid marring the work object with the metal teeth

Your perspective on the whole process and person that relates to that fractal vice is great. Passionate about what you do when you see every aspect of something

I love this video so much, not only have I been interested in owning one for a long time, even I don't have a use case for it....but I love also the proper and chaotic excitement for it that you have. Loved you in mythbusters, but love you being 100% yourself so much more and so much more recognizable. Don't ever loose that!

The quality of the machining on that is incredibly satisfying. It's made to be worked in over time to be remarkably functional. I think we'd all love to see you make a brass set of jaws for non-marking holds.

@milosstojanovic4623

11 ай бұрын

It did not seem that functional, as we could see with that hammer handle, those small holders need to be manually adjusted, plus they are not holding that handle tight.

@11000038

11 ай бұрын

Looks great. Shows that Chinese really doesn't always mean straight to landfill. Price reflects!

A gorgeous piece of mechanical artwork. Not only are the fractal pieces beautifully milled, but the same level of attention and love was given to each of the base pieces. I'd be willing to bet that the octagonal angles are within a degree of each other, and the same with the beveling. I can easily see Adam removing the various hex/allen adjustment screws, and milling his own set that extend out beyond the base with their own grips.

@jamesjameson4566

11 ай бұрын

Invented by an African man

@Liv1nMohawk

11 ай бұрын

​@jamesjameson4566 not true at all

@jamesjameson4566

11 ай бұрын

@@Liv1nMohawk don't suppress the truth, the cats out of the bag, people are beginning to learn.

@DavZell

11 ай бұрын

​@@jamesjameson4566Do you have a link with the story? What I found was Paulin Karl Kunze of Austria invented it, who may have been of African descent, but his name, country, and the time period (1920's), make it seem less likely.

@jamesjameson4566

11 ай бұрын

@@DavZell that's the name "they" use, to suppress the truth.

I think one of the best things about Adam is that his enthusiasm is positively infectious.

Seeing Adam getting excited about a niche piece of hardware is a nostalgia I had nearly forgotten. Love this dude (^◡^)

Hand Tool Rescue's KZread channel first came across the fractal vise a few years ago. Recently he even made a fractal vise chair from a patent that never saw the light of day

@maqywhaq

11 ай бұрын

the Black and Decker Pecker Wrecker...

19:08 😊 Every country makes junk products. Every county makes amazing products. It is amazing that this product was in someone's mind in China and now it exists on a table in the US. It is a really cool thing.

@brolohalflemming7042

11 ай бұрын

That's why China worries our leaders. The bigger the population, the more people there will be to have ideas like this. Especially when China and other Asian economies seem to value education far more than we do in the West. It's been fascinating watching the way China's transitioned from being a relatively low-tech/cheap labour industry mass producing simple stuff, to more complex stuff, and increasingly innovating. It's also rapidly improving designs. Some early products were.. quirky to Western aesthetics, but have quickly adapted.

@swissfreek

11 ай бұрын

😂 caught that too haha. I think China’s culture/society/economy permits them to make stuff cheaper than a lot of places (like, you would struggle to be profitable making stuff as cheaply in the US or Germany as you can in China for a variety of reasons), and so that’s what they have become “famous” for. But ultimately, you get what you pay for, and they’ll be happy to take more money from you and give you a quality commensurate with that price if that’s what you want. The fact that for example Apple and DJI products just to name two are made in China should be sufficient proof that they absolutely *can* make high quality products for the right price.

@Peksisarvinen

11 ай бұрын

Yeah that's exactly right and a great point. Many moons ago, I purchased a bunch of FiiO products (audiophile stuff), initially a little suspicious due to their relatively low price compared to their high announced specs, but once I got the products, it was an instant lesson that a company being Chinese doesn't mean anything these days (in terms of the products being inferior to Western products). Been using their headphone amp+desktop DAC every single day for probably a decade now, and I have nothing but high praise. Decades of hearing about "Chinese crap" has sort of forced the connection in people's brain that Chinese products are automatically bad, but that simply isn't the case these days. Maybe it never was, and the whole stereotype was just propaganda.

@swissfreek

11 ай бұрын

@@Peksisarvinen I think the stereotype is based in some fact like Adam says. For a number of reasons they can do the whole spectrum from ultracheap crap to very fine stuff, where a lot of other places (but not all) can only do one or the other. The cheap stuff gets more volume, so it gets more attention, and I think the fancy stuff hides under the radar because they get attached to (often non-Chinese) brand names, such as Apple. Places like Amazon and Alibaba and other mass online retailers have also caused a race to the bottom on price, which brings even more attention to the cheap stuff.

@_BangDroid_

11 ай бұрын

Stereotypes exist for a reason though. There's no stereotype that German engineering is garbage, it's the opposite. That's not to say that everything engineered in Germany is superb, that's categorically false. China's economy is based on quantity over quality and as such the average quality is brought much lower. Of course you can get really high quality products made in China, almost everything by every major brand is already made there. The the stereotype is valid because for every 1 good item there's hundreds of junk ones. I'd also like to add the fractal vice is not a Chinese idea, they took an idea that already existed (Patented by Mantle & Co in 1913) but was almost forgotten to time, and recreated it. A very common practice for Chinese manufacturers. Not an example of innovation.

I've never seen or heard of one before, but I'm in love with that tool!! How frickin' cool!! Thank you for sharing your new toy with us!

These things are awesome. I have never used one, but they are just absolutely amazing to see work.

I think one of the things I find most inspiring about Adam is that it doesn’t matter how fresh out of the package or how expensive the item; if he sees something that irks him he immediately breaks it down and customizes it until it meets his satisfaction. He doesn’t settle for “just okay” or “good enough”. That kind of confidence and know-how are rare.

@TheBalunStormhands

11 ай бұрын

Thanks to Adam, I am no longer afraid to modify something to better fit my needs.

@JohnDlugosz

11 ай бұрын

I'm impressed that he always grabbed the correct screwdriver (Alan wrench, Torx bit? I can't see from here) on the first try.

Just loved the joy Adam exudes over the toy he just got. And also really like the point he made about Chinese manufacturing. Yeah a lot of it is based on what gets put out the most, which is made cheaply , cause it’s meant to be sold for cheap, but isn’t always the case. For example in the knife space more and more manufactures like Maxace an We Knife are making some amazing products, which I bet they put a lot of pride and effort into making, and not just cheap replicas.

@jeffy8253

11 ай бұрын

Someone finally gets it. People buy from $1 stores, AliExpress, Walmart, etc and complain about the quality. Like what did they expect?

@FrickingLunatic

11 ай бұрын

yes the cheap stuff from china is usually low quality. but i think he expected nicer then harbor freight quality for 2500$

@TheGrandslam89

10 ай бұрын

Some of it is also likely trend chasing and start up manufacturing tends to be common. It doesn't matter if you have quality materials, good machinist, with good tools, if you don't have a technical package or a strong understanding of the product needs you're basically guaranteed to put out junk because the fit and finish wont be right. A good non Chinese example is the L85a1 versus the L85a2 where fundamentally they are the same design, it's just the l85a1 was made by people who didn't understand how to make guns and the L85a2 was made by people who did.

@slome815

10 ай бұрын

@@FrickingLunatic I don't think you have any idea how much work a vise like this is compared to a normal vise. I'm a CNC machinist, but the operations and setups required to make all those fitting curved dovetails is not to be underestimated. It also seems, and probably is, a steel vise, very likely heat treated, while the cheap harbor freight vises are cast iron with nearly no machined surfaces. There is also a very small market compared to a normal vise for something like this, this means small production, and lots of setup and programming time. 2500 dollar does not suprise me.

@FrickingLunatic

10 ай бұрын

@@slome815 i think you misunderstand me. i am very physics minded in engineering. i was stating the chinese tools are usually crap. that was my statement. that it the general mindset of most people today. adam himself says this. i agree with him and you. and if i paid 2500$ for a vise i would expect it to be well engineering and built. by a person such as you.

Adam is still a trip. I love learning while smiling and being happy. Peace. ✌️

Discovered your channel because my kid shared this video with me. Subscribed before I finished watching. So glad to see you creating content!!!!!

Hey Adam, I think the fractul vice would work amazingly well if it was installed onto a mounting system that would also allow you to turn the vice into a vertical position. That would give you unlimited holding ability for the most part concidering it has the ability to spin 360 degrees. Wow. worth every dollar!

@evangelionmann

10 ай бұрын

i think it needs a bit of an addition before you could do that, since the clamping surfaces are only held on to the vice by gravity

@wordsinahandle

10 ай бұрын

Why is it so hard to find a fractal vise?

Adam it may only need a very light deburing to make the jaws move correctly. I would NOT use laping compound. The jaws are sticking a bit already, so it could be a real bad time. Consider a precision ground stone to de-burr with. As for the handle, mill a square on the Acme thread. Then use a normal vice handle. The jaws could be closed securely, then drilled with a bit around 1/3 of the diameter to get the smaller contact surfaces you want.

@skoparweaver7692

11 ай бұрын

lapping compound works great on other fine fitments like 1911 slides. I wouldn't hesitate to use it on this too.

@veronicavaes4581

11 ай бұрын

Look at the thumbnail. It already has chunks taken out of every crescent. It's too late to suggest anything, because he already made the follow-up video.

@ericbrooks2819

11 ай бұрын

​@@veronicavaes4581here I am coming to the comments to suggest clamping on parallels and using an indicator to square it up and check jaw alignment, and I totally missed the thumbnail where he's already drilled out the middle of each set lol. Wonder why he didn't edit out the request for advice...

@smokin70chevelle

11 ай бұрын

A valve lapping compound wouldn't work very well imo, but a non imbedding lapping compound that gunsmiths use like JBs would work wonders on that thing. I use it on all my rifles and trigger packs. It's just a PITA to clean all the paste off the parts once it's lapped in.

@veronicavaes4581

11 ай бұрын

@@ericbrooks2819 it's definitely an odd choice. I'm guessing this video sat on the back burner longer than planned, and by the time the channel's editor wanted to publish, they realized there are no usable-as-thumbnail stills of the unmodified vice in action.

Fractal vice are just the best. I have one from a auction thirty years ago. STILL use it today. The best period !!!!!!!!!!

Things like this remind me that without the internet, a lot of ideas would just be lost forever.

I love when Adam is genuinely geeking out on another level, and is so happy and enthusiastic about a new tool/item ❤ I'm looking forward to more updates on this tool 🤞🏻

Adam, I hope that you read this, because I really mean this: You geinuinly will always have a special place in my heart. You're almost the exact image of the crazy inventor little old me used to dream up. I used to be glued to the tv whenever mythbusters was on and remember being heartbroken when the show ended. The fact you've been able to continue inspiring me (and I'm sure many others) after something as big as mythbusters is an amazing feat. I feel you and this channel have been a huge part in keeping that childish curiosity in me alive and I'm ever thankful for that.

Happy birthday Adam. (July 15). That is a brilliant piece of engineering.

ok. its amazing to see adam, a guy who has built lots and lots of things get THIS excited. weve all been there. for a while, he was a kid with a new toy.

I never knew this existed, and now I have to have one!! I find Adam's joyful mood contagious. Seeing him excited and happy makes me happy. I think that stems from him being a very decent human being. I'm glad to see him happy! You Rock Bro!!

@shawbros

11 ай бұрын

"now I have to have one!!" At 2500?

I saw the restoration video a while ago, and felt EXACTLY the same about it! Art and engineering combined.

@thechumpsbeendumped.7797

11 ай бұрын

The same here. As soon as I saw it I wanted one even though I don’t need it.

I've been looking for one of these for decades, Thanks .

The way Adam says "Hi everybody" is the way you would say it on a video call to family you miss. Endearing to say the least.

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@Texansfan254Jeff

11 ай бұрын

You may want to use some antiseize on the Allen lugs.

@PicklesTheOtt

11 ай бұрын

You said you'd include a link to where you bought it... :(

@JohnGodwin777

11 ай бұрын

The audio is horrendous

@esseel7896

11 ай бұрын

@@PicklesTheOtt alibaba

@nickwulf

11 ай бұрын

DHL = Dewey, Huey & Louie

Mating surfaces solution: Gibs. I'm actually in my 3rd semester for Machinist 1 and I chose early on the fractal vise as my final project, so I was immediately drawn to this video. My idea is to turn differing diameters for the differing nested jaw dovetails, halve them, mill them, repeat, repeat, etc, etc. As for the other dovetails which are doubled on the face of the crescents, those will have to be done with the mill, and I'm working on the drawings/toolpaths in MasterCam for NC files, but as a lover of all things machining, I REALLY want to do this all with manual machines. We shall see, I guess. Can't wait to see what you do with yours.

I'd love to pick one of these up, and in addition to refinements to make it more accurate and my own, I'd also paint it and add the markings the original had to denote which pieces went where. Sometimes the tools we use are an extension of our artistic creations and this machinery deserves to be tailor-fitted to its maker and their workspace.

That's beautiful! Who ever expected a vise to be a work of art!

Never heard of this before. It's a simple idea, but so damn beautiful. So elegant. Beautiful engineering, and quite surprised at the production quality. A beautiful piece.

For lubrication I really like PTFE (Teflon) dry lube. If you were so inclined you could hypothetically put another lube on top of the PTFE and have it be extra slidey. I'd honestly probably go for Moly grease on top. Thin oils do have their place but I think the low speed and relatively high force warrants something higher viscosity that wont squeeze out when its clamped static.

@adelliaadams3722

10 ай бұрын

You're not wrong, but PTFE is one of the "forever chemical" family that we're barely starting to grasp the long-term evils of. We can do better, and for the sake of future generations, we should try.

It's incredible to watch the mind of an engineer at work.

Love the enthusiasm! What a joy.