Kamila Valieva: Russian skater in gold medal position in individual event ► www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/feb/15/kamila-valieva-russian-skater-in-gold-medal-position-in-individual-event

@SpeedFireARL

2 жыл бұрын

Камила допущена судом до соревнований из-за нарушений допущенных ВАДА при тестировании. Защищенная персона это только о том, что информация о расследовании не должна была попасть в прессу, а главный подозреваемый это тренер. Олимпийский комитет, до момента пока не будет закончено расследование и Камила не будет оправдана, отложит церемонию награждения. Для гипотетической ситуации если Камила не будет оправдана, квалификацию расширили на одну дополнительную участницу. Это все. Камила с начала карьеры сдавала допинг тесты - все они чисты. Единственный вопрос - как микродоза запрещенного вещества попала в нее в декабре.

Yes it is child abuse. Roc should be held to account.

@darthvader8810

2 жыл бұрын

Roc couldn’t even know about it. They announced the results only after the Olympic event even though the test was before nationals

@fsc4823

5 ай бұрын

@@darthvader8810there is a state-sponsored doping program in russia and they’re playing dumb and blaming the child victimized by it.

"Remember that one time I accidentally took my grandfather's heart medicine?" -Nobody ever

He’s a hundred percent right. It’s the people around Kamila who need to be held to standard.

@mariearmstrong9185

2 жыл бұрын

The adults should of been arrested, charged with abuse if a child. Also for drugging a child. I'm sure this is NOT the first time.

He is correct. 18 on or before start of Olympic year

@Beginstheman

2 жыл бұрын

And for the record, Youth Olympics are still a thing to showcase tomorrow's talents.

@rusdihanif7565

2 жыл бұрын

less sponsors

This makes sense!! Finally a comment with sense and overlooking the whole scenario… “child abuse” ….

Totally agree! I’m so sick of the loss of the grace and elegance. It’s all about who does the most quads, the sport needs to revamped, and an age of 18 years old to be an Olympic champion

@martinakuhnert9636

2 жыл бұрын

Do you think Russians will pay by the "rules'? Think again.

@martinakuhnert9636

2 жыл бұрын

play..sorry

@juve3030

2 жыл бұрын

@@martinakuhnert9636 no you're right, Russians definitely "pay" to win. I like your idea Russians don't play by the rules, they pay for the rules.

@martinakuhnert9636

2 жыл бұрын

@@juve3030 Did you take your meds from grandpa yet?

@muhammadabdullahfahad1001

2 жыл бұрын

Are u dumb that’s the retiring age

Finally someone said it at loud. All I was hearing up to this point was some round words.

@skortys

10 ай бұрын

Просто напросто вам неприятно, что русские лучшие. А признать сложно. Лучше будем что-то придумывать. Ну удачи!

Damage is done with kamila she will be know as "The girl who dope in the Olympics" . What a shame. Waste of talent!

@dkt9609

2 жыл бұрын

do not even hope:) so naive

@user-kl3fo6rj9p

2 жыл бұрын

What drug did she take and at what dose?

@martinakuhnert9636

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-kl3fo6rj9p She just took her grandpa heart medicine! Her words! LOL...World is laughing

@anayarey

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-kl3fo6rj9p three drugs. Trimetazidine, hypoxen, L-Carnitine. And that were only the ones that weren't flushed out of her system in time.

@user-kl3fo6rj9p

2 жыл бұрын

@@martinakuhnert9636 Do you compete in dementia there?

Spoken like a true champion!

@Angiegonzalezb

Жыл бұрын

Come on he sucks

I agree they should set the age limit to 18 and then this wouldn’t have been handled this way. It would have been clear to resolve if they set the age limit for the Olympics to 18 and jr Olympians would be under. Televise both but it would fix this from being handled like it was.

I am so impressed by the eloquence of all the skaters who are speaking out. They are right to be very upset. Shame on the IOC, the ROC and the ISU. All must be corrupt.

Well said! A. Rippon works as coach now and knows exactly what's going on behind the scenes.

Standing ovation Adam Rippon! He was right. Kamila Valieva should compete at the youth Olympics not the Winter games! She'll wait until she hits 18 years old.

@AlexGlumoff

2 жыл бұрын

In this case, everyone will only watch the Russian Women's Figure Skating Championship. The rest will be uninteresting 😂

Well said!!

One of the best interviews about this tragic situation.

He speaks the truth .

very well said: ''using the dream of a child as ammunition"

Appropriately passionate, and well said. I don’t think any more could be said about the young athlete. Who is looking out for her welfare right now? Is it even appropriate for her mental health to be competing? I am not saying one way or the other but those people around her are not trusted to be making decisions on her behalf obviously

I agree 💯%

Well said!!!!!

He hit the nail on the head!

Speak it Jason. We r with you 100%. Its just not right.

@macyrenee9488

2 жыл бұрын

Whose Jason?

Well said👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

That is so true!

It is abuse, and to Rippon's point, it really makes you wonder what is going on in these Russian "training facilities." It makes me sick to think of the abuse these child athletes have to endure behind the scenes - especially the ones who have made it to the Olympic level. Overworking, drugging, shaming, starvation, psychological abuse....it's just horrifying to think about it.

@Maria-up4tl

2 жыл бұрын

@Heinrich Hertz Alright, Stalin. Go to bed.

@skortys

10 ай бұрын

Не волнуйтесь, просто наши фигуристы уделяют намного больше времени своему любимому делу. Они живут этим.

A bit surprised that people like Adam have the courage to speak up and do not fear being Babashoffed.

@franzessie9697

2 жыл бұрын

What do you mean by people like Adam?

@dkadkins6545

2 жыл бұрын

@@franzessie9697 People still actively in the skating world. Everyone else is commentating but not still part of the judged world of skating. Proud of him.

@dkadkins6545

2 жыл бұрын

@@franzessie9697 Did you understand the reference to Babashoff?

Your right 100!

What is also terrible, is if she was 16 there would not be this middle grey area, she’s be out no questions asked and I believe she is just a few months away. She’s still be a child even at 16 and I’d believe that it was still the responsibility of the adults around her to create the situation. The only way to remedy this is to change the rule to increase the age or update the note about protected person. She should be protected, like by not rewarding the coaches and countries that do this to children to continue doing it.

Well said Adam, all of it. Thank you

WADA should assume the entire responsibility for this mess. they manipulated the test results

really? And the fact that 2 doping samples were clean? OMG how can you speak so rudely!

Well said, sir! Keep preaching!

Raise tha age limit for sure! Especially for the Olympics.. I just don't understand how this country keeps getting to preform on this stage from doping after doping to the scandals on tampering with scoring and the list is so long It's ridiculous and for these other poor ladies competing knowing really gold is already gone before they skate and this year to someone doping. Terrible. Figure skating so beautiful but one of the most corrupt sports in history on the Olympic level especially.

I agree completely. However the hypocrisy with what he said here and how he acted at the obvious breakdown that Alexander Trusova had after winning silver is really telling. “Her attitude was as bad as her skating” okay but her attitude was a trauma response from abuse that you clearly stated here is happening in that training camp. The lack of empathy for Alexandra was insane compared to Kamila. They both deserve the same treatment and kindness.

Just feel sick.

Eteri Tutberidze and her coaching gang need to be investigated, banned from coaching, and possibly even go to jail.

@martinakuhnert9636

2 жыл бұрын

LOL, Do you really think Russians will ever do that or better yet...admit it?

@user-kl3fo6rj9p

2 жыл бұрын

Hybrid people, hybrid countries, hybrid thoughts, hybrid dreams, hybrid wars, hybrid life, hybrid consciousness cannot be changed by you. Are you a frostbitten creature at all? Can you go to jail for libel? Shut your mouth and leave the Russians alone, watch your sick athletes.

@anayarey

2 жыл бұрын

Never in Russia though, they are worshipped there. They basically promote child abuse. It's sick

@anayarey

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-kl3fo6rj9p why do Russians always reply with "Shut your mouth"? You keep making yourself look worse and worse.

@ElaineSamuela

2 жыл бұрын

@@anayarey Thank you.

The rules are in place for a reason.

Preach!!!!!

She needs to come clean and admit doping, remove herself from the games and clear the way for the real athletes. Her team to be banned so they don't think twice doping again.

@lynne4499

Жыл бұрын

Lol, take part in your liar Olympic Games? No, thank you. Hope Russia will make own new competition games without LGBT. We saw European Championship of Figure Skating and ISU competition, it was terrible without Russia))

Exactly! Totally agree.

I couldn’t Agree more👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Can’t agree more!

ella estaba limpia en las olimpiadas limpia y patina hasta mejor que tu

“Atlete with Covid positive test isn’t allowed to compete,but there are athletes here with positive drug test”.Dear Adam, the athlete with Covid is ill now, Kamila had this positive dope test in December, when there was Russian Championship. The lates drug tests,including for Olympics were clean. And nobody says that Stockholm has f*cked up with the time?They should’ve been warned the ice skater before the Olympics. Now there are tons of bullying and pressing young 15 years old teenager, that creates the art and magic on ice without any dope!People,open your eyes please.STOP ruin the mental health of this girl and dream of her life!Let’s concentrate on the sport and the achievements!

@harveythepooka

2 жыл бұрын

If she was found guilty, which she was since she got a positive drug test, you get suspended, probably for a year. Maybe more. It certainly wouldn't be for less than 2 months. All they're waiting for is for the trial, which will find her guilty, because a positive drug test is like a video of you murdering someone one. It's irrefutable evidence. The only question left if how long she will be suspended and how many medals she'll lose. Will it be the Russian nationals, the European Championships, the team competition and ladies singles?

@helenababikova8806

2 жыл бұрын

@@harveythepooka That's why they had to send Kamila home and give her a substitute. Why is she competing? To make it impossible for other girls to get a medal ??? If she doesn't get the medal at all.

Adam Rippon is so annoying

It’s time for the Olympic to go!!!!

İ agree

There’s was tiny traces of heart drug that doesn’t enhance her performance. It was a set up to destroy her moral and it works.

@katerinamoawad2026

2 жыл бұрын

Anyways Russians still get gold and silver

The Cold War also kills. We will remember you, Angel.

100%agree

It’s just politics , There’s no Olympics without it right now ) unfortunately

Is a Touch in the face 😊😊😊

Are you happy now?

let's define clean, IOC & WADA makes this up based on politics & who stuffs the most cash in their pockets.

Spoke a lot but no medal to back up his Greatness

Don't say dumb

The USA silver medalist in the women's bobsled, tested positive for covid before and was quarantined, could not train under normal conditioned and after the negative test was allowed to compete. That said part of his opinion is totally false. There is more, .....

@genmcclain

2 жыл бұрын

I think he was talking about Vincent Zhou the figure skater.

@Kulou8

2 жыл бұрын

I think everyone knew he was talking about Vincent?! Although, your opinion may have merit…..so does Adam’s!

@harveythepooka

2 жыл бұрын

She was allowed to compete after quarantine. And he wasn't saying that covid positive people should be competing but that it's a double standard, which it is.

I am guessing 🤔 and will give an advise to the ROC, Athlets, please like in America eat only Chiken and Rice,

Russia is not loved just because they can often be champions in various sports, let's better support their athletes if you are still people :)

It‘s quite interesting how everyone is having an opinion about this before there was even a sentence made. If they decide that Kamila should not have been allowed to compete, it’s just fair that she won’t win a medal of course! But the damage would be increasingly higher if they didn’t let her compete now and if it then turned out that everything was fine! They took the right decision in letting her into the competition with reservation. I think everyone agrees that Kamila is the victim in this whole affair. And let’s be honest guys, you can’t perform such an astonishing wonderful programme just because of doping. Her art on the ice goes beyond everything what could be supported by drugs. Let’s not judge a child without knowing anything about the circumstances. Im Zweifel für den Angeklagten. In dubio pro reo!

@mariearmstrong9185

2 жыл бұрын

Rules state if you test positive for enhancing drugs on the list you CAN NOT be in the Olympics. She tested POSITIVE for drugs. She should of been sent home. Plain and simple. This DRUGGY might have won the gold in the eyes of the cheaters but for the rest of her life she will be known for testing POSITIVE for DRUGS and still being allowed to be in the OLYMPICS. DISGRACEFUL!!!!!!!

@mariearmstrong9185

2 жыл бұрын

And the Other ladies who worked for years to earn a medal and to stand on the podium have been ROBBED!!!!!

@Kulou8

2 жыл бұрын

I think it’s so funny that people have this opinion because we all know that if she wasn’t the favorite to win or if she wasn’t considered a protective person then she would have been sent home already. It’s a shame the rules aren’t equal for everyone.

@Cherry-iq1xb

2 жыл бұрын

if she's not old enough to take responsibility, she's not old enough to skate here with adults. And the point that she is a beautiful skater doesn't suddenly make it fair for other athletes, since she can train longer and harder with those endurance enhancing drugs.

Drama queen

Cheater, cheater cheater, doper, doper, doper!!!!🤬🤬😡🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮 REPLY

es ilegal serenvidoso es insano lo que hablas envidioso jamas llegaran a patinar como kamila

Lol 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 she was clen at the Olympics Iiiiiiiiii!!!!

Камила допущена судом до соревнований из-за нарушений допущенных ВАДА при тестировании. Защищенная персона это только о том, что информация о расследовании не должна была попасть в прессу, а главный подозреваемый это тренер. Олимпийский комитет, до момента пока не будет закончено расследование и Камила не будет оправдана, отложит церемонию награждения. Для гипотетической ситуации если Камила не будет оправдана, квалификацию расширили на одну дополнительную участницу. Это все. Камила с начала карьеры сдавала допинг тесты - все они чисты. Единственный вопрос - как микродоза запрещенного вещества попала в нее в декабре.

Agree except raising age to 18. Too old. Increase injuries and decrease athletic abilities. Gymnastics and skating based on skills best achieved at younger age. It’s sports don’t like it choose another. People too sensitive. Everyone isn’t a winner.

Russians, as always, bought everyone around. Camila should not perform, because it is unethical and mean to set up her teammates like that. Because of her, Trusova and Shcherbakov will not receive medals

Recall Sergei Grinkov, who won 2 Olympics and died due to a heart attack when wearing skates at the age of 28. About a quarter of myocardial infarctions happen without specific premonitory symptoms. While therapeutic use of prohibited substances is possible - why is disease prevention forbidden?.. I don't say that the prohibition was intentionally violated - I say that the prohibition to prevent severe diseases is unethical. Each organism is unique and may need personalized aproach to disease prevention and treatment.

Is from USA obviously say that 😭😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Hello Adam you must differentiate between an athlete tested covid positive and drug abuse. What you said is not fair to those who are tested free from covid. So what the f with all the health protocols and every athletes can play regardless of health status. Don’t really see your logic in comparing these 2 different matters.

Hash

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"- Our Lord

@martinakuhnert9636

2 жыл бұрын

Don't lie or cheat or YOU will be judged.

@creativelife108

2 жыл бұрын

@@martinakuhnert9636 You are judging too soon. You do not know everything.

@creativelife108

2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree.

She used to fall a lot, but thanks to drug, she can spin n jumping crazy. No wonder why....Hope that she falls a big n out of medal.

@user-kl3fo6rj9p

2 жыл бұрын

Provide a link to the video where she fell a lot. They took a sample from her in Beijing, the sample is clean. What drug did she take and what dose was it?

@anayarey

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-kl3fo6rj9p It was three performance enhancing drugs. Trimetazidine, hypoxen, L-Carnitine. And that were only the ones that weren't flushed out of her system in time.

@helenababikova8806

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-kl3fo6rj9p It does not matter. Let's leave it to the competent authorities to investigate. If they proves that Kamila took up doping, she will be punished by the distance for a longer period and she will have a end of career. Which is a shame, because she's talented. But doping is doping and must be punished, because otherwise we would give it the green light.

@user-kl3fo6rj9p

2 жыл бұрын

@@helenababikova8806 Yes, you have all the "sick" athletes on drugs, you gave him the green light a long time ago.If they are sick, they need to participate in other competitions.

@helenababikova8806

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-kl3fo6rj9p So Valieva is also ill, as she is taking 3 types of heart medicine and you think she shouldn't be at this Olympics and she should take part in other competitions. Am I right, I'm ??? Or is she healthy, but then why is she taking those drugs on her heart ??? And what about other Russian athletes. Why can't they represent their country, but represent under the ROC ??? Because of the Russian doping affair ??? Well, that's new to me. :) :) :) You know in our country they say: "Thief screams, catch a thief" And this is exactly your case, you are accusing everyone of doping, and at the same time Russia has the biggest Dopig scandals. Am I right, I'm ???

Мок это нацисты

Russian Bear WIN!

@eileendinatale6042

2 жыл бұрын

Cheaters all

@jingjing5731

2 жыл бұрын

Dope!

@martinakuhnert9636

2 жыл бұрын

They lost, big time!

@lynne4499

Жыл бұрын

​@@martinakuhnert9636 we saw ISU competition and European Championship without Russia. So I can say you are loosers)))

That little girl brought tears to my eyes again after watching her skate. So happy they let her compete.

@sincantations

2 жыл бұрын

....why. i think it's more damaging to her to have her go out there and compete and allow this abuse to continue

@martinakuhnert9636

2 жыл бұрын

I feel sorry for all the other ones, they worked so hard and no ceremony, no medals...all because of Russian cheaters!

@Beginstheman

2 жыл бұрын

You are aware that she can compete in 4 years in Milan if she comes clean, right? Then why is it okay to let her compete so that black cloud still hangs over her head instead of doing what has been done with other athletes before - immediate suspension followed by a hearing at a later date? Her age should not cloud people's judgement to the detriment of the fact that rules are for everyone, no exceptions.

@toxic-low-key-ghost7934

2 жыл бұрын

@@Beginstheman Do you really think she will even be around in 4 years with that jump technique? are you forgetting about the eteri expiration date? she will be eaten alive by the juniors in russia and will be gone in 2 seasons. exact same thing happened to zagitova , from olympic champion in 2018 to LAST PLACE at the GPF in 2019. her time at the top is ticking away

@martinakuhnert9636

2 жыл бұрын

@@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 Sadly, you are right! That monster Eteri is prepping next victim as we speak, but hey, anything to win right Russia?

It seems that this world is not worthy of Kamila Valieva. She allowed people to touch the divine gift and witness a miracle, and they are trying to measure her with three steps of a pedestal.

@windycityliz7711

2 жыл бұрын

The Russian training system entrusted with the gift of this athlete clearly does not deserve her. They have abused her and her talent, along with countless others, and they deserve to be exposed and banned. Adam Rippon clearly and compassionately makes this point.

@qwertyboo

2 жыл бұрын

If she is so great why do they need to dope her? C'mon.

@ap0st

2 жыл бұрын

@@qwertyboo Exactly! Absolutly no need to dope her. But she has enough competitors in the team and also a lot of crazy fans and crazy parents of other athletes in Russia. Personally, I do not rule out that this substance was put into her food.

@martinakuhnert9636

2 жыл бұрын

@@ap0st What is left to talk about? Did she have drug in her system? YES!!! Ohh, she just yesterday remembered it must be the one taken by mistake from her grandfather...are you kidding me?

@ap0st

2 жыл бұрын

@@martinakuhnert9636 No. I think the substance was put into her food by someone from the team. Someone who wanted to switch her of the competition.

Sorry but listening to this guy makes me sick. What drugs? Is it proven? What about Norway asthmatics by the way?

@anayarey

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah it's proven, Kamila said she accidentally took her grandpa's drugs lol 😂😂

@creativelife108

2 жыл бұрын

@@anayarey You do not know what was said during CAS tribunal, as you were not there. Everything else - is pure speculation. Even IOC and WADA admitted that info about grandpa is speculation from social media - as they themselves were not present during the hearing.

@lynne4499

Жыл бұрын

​@@anayarey what about Norway asthmatics?))

Soon, plain water that Russian athletes drink will be declared doping. Have you ever wondered why meldonium is considered doping at the Olympics, but it is not considered doping in the NHL. I explain for especially "smart" hypocrites, fans of "clean" athletes-steroids and other asthmatics. There is a Russian team at the Olympics, but there is no Russian team in the NHL. That's the whole answer to why meldonium is considered doping by some, and not by others.

@onekidthere

2 жыл бұрын

Meldonium is banned in the NHL.

"Sour grapes Adam" is his new name. He's literally the coach of Valieva's competitor Mariah Bell who doesn't have a remote chance of scoring higher than Valieva. Valieva is in another league. So he can talk all the trash he likes, but it won't make his skater perform any better.

@stephanikomasara5793

2 жыл бұрын

Do u think he doesn't know that though. I don't think his point is to favor Mariah it's about cheating... and I'm sure he'd rather train Mariah to get better then to drug her in hopes of not getting caught and getting a medal. Come on ppl it's russia again caught cheating. U do realize that this has happened multiple times

@martinakuhnert9636

2 жыл бұрын

Valieva is a cheater under Russian blessing! She brought shame to Olympics, but hey...Russians are known for that.

@sterphanie

2 жыл бұрын

Not trash talk just stating facts … Do you not hear his sympathy for Kamila going through this traumatic experience

@martinakuhnert9636

2 жыл бұрын

@@sterphanie Yes, it still however does not change fact that she should not have been allowed to compete, as he said..."slap in the face to other athletes".

@ElaineSamuela

2 жыл бұрын

He's right, you're wrong.

Excuse me but you do not have the right to talk about things you do not know! yes, they train hard to achieve the results they have today! You can also do that if you do the same thing, this is not impossible. Valieva is not just a figure skater, she is a girl who creates art on the ice.

@edwardallenmiranda8586

2 жыл бұрын

3 drugs that enhance performance.

@CHarlotte-ro4yi

2 жыл бұрын

Adam Rippon absolutely knows what he is talking about and he is right! His statement is well balanced and considerate of all the parties involved

@martinakuhnert9636

2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps Russia should have "Russian Olympics" with so called rules on their own!

@helenababikova8806

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, they work hard and therefore need support to withstand these difficult trainings. It's okay if support is enabled. If it's forbidden, it's already doping. And doping is a fact you can't change anything about. Don't want to give green to doping, do you ???

@maiafrodler376

2 жыл бұрын

@@helenababikova8806 everyone must be treated according to law and the law says that Valieva can be in the competition. Does she not have the right to be treated according to law? and the law that the Russians have not written ?? !! :)

Gosh, I keep seeing him all around crying bla bla bla. Is he a man?? Anyway, get ready for a slap to another cheek, FP is coming:)

@eap1234

2 жыл бұрын

Such a shameful blatant disregard for clean sports. Cheaters

@jingjing5731

2 жыл бұрын

Cheater!

@jigsaw3259

2 жыл бұрын

I see, men like feel victims of a teenage girl:))

@dkt9609

2 жыл бұрын

ahaha....exactly

such a big man, NOT