Ad Nauseam vs Talion, the Kindly Lord which one to play?

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So both of these cards great right? and there is a big talk in the community of you should cut down on combo and add more value cards. So let's look into that.
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  • @alanoftheinfinite
    @alanoftheinfiniteАй бұрын

    I believe doing a 2 hour deep dive would provide significant evidence to the conversation! These analytical reviews help improve my understanding and allow me to make better decisions going into events. Thanks for your contribution and I look forward to the next one!

  • @cedhtv

    @cedhtv

    Ай бұрын

    maybe a livestream ... humm.

  • @batatac4mil86
    @batatac4mil86Ай бұрын

    Give us that 2 hour video!

  • @cedhtv

    @cedhtv

    Ай бұрын

    I have seen this comment alot now. taking it into consideration.

  • @LGTeGeTeGe

    @LGTeGeTeGe

    Ай бұрын

    We wanna watch that 2 hour video lol

  • @pippofelipe6901

    @pippofelipe6901

    Ай бұрын

    Marathon mons 🏃!

  • @frankyg821
    @frankyg821Ай бұрын

    Taking out talion and leaving the rest of grixis gives you turbo rog si, which is better than any other grixis commanders. Grixis midrange is weaker. White is better for midrange because of access to silences to close the game. Rog si just had to go fast

  • @user-xs4ek1tp4v
    @user-xs4ek1tp4vАй бұрын

    Mons, you made a great answer here. Talion is a good mid-range value engine, it hurts only fast ad nauseam strategies. Thank you.

  • @crustycarhartt
    @crustycarharttАй бұрын

    21:52 this is something I'm planning to talk about with a new friend. I like the timely nature of this video!

  • @cedhtv

    @cedhtv

    Ай бұрын

    happy to help your talk with your friend.

  • @T_v_W2
    @T_v_W2Ай бұрын

    11:02 What is Braids doing here?

  • @oldbordergeek
    @oldbordergeekАй бұрын

    i play a sub par general but i like to make it good. i went with talion and grim hireling and hoarding broodlord. its just stays fun. really ad naus is one way but taintes the whole list, right? should i play necropotense in esper???

  • @doggosgoboom6721
    @doggosgoboom6721Ай бұрын

    Could we get a new analysis for Tayam? it's been some time and he's been lurkin

  • @cedhtv

    @cedhtv

    Ай бұрын

    YEs. We actully can.

  • @smithjohn4679
    @smithjohn4679Ай бұрын

    why are some of your searches excluding dauthi?

  • @justinlopez8977
    @justinlopez8977Ай бұрын

    Lets! go! blues! clues! 👏👏, 👏👏👏

  • @bobbeh_tv
    @bobbeh_tvАй бұрын

    Why not both?

  • @cedhtv

    @cedhtv

    Ай бұрын

    you can go both. All I am saying is that the ones that have gone both have on average lower winrate then those that don't play both. That play either.

  • @LGTeGeTeGe
    @LGTeGeTeGeАй бұрын

    I have 2 decks, tymna thrasios and tivit. I play adnaus in the first and talion in the second. I think that having a 4 cmc card doesnt hurt that much if the rest of the deck is cheap, but im fucking crazy and i play seedborn muse in my adnaus deck so no room for my talion there lol

  • @frankyg821
    @frankyg821Ай бұрын

    Why not both, I think both are good in both strategies

  • @cedhtv

    @cedhtv

    Ай бұрын

    you can go both. All I am saying is that the ones that have gone both have on average lower winrate then those that don't play both. That play either.

  • @itzmimz8238
    @itzmimz8238Ай бұрын

    I play both

  • @deeds2r
    @deeds2rАй бұрын

    What about Notion Thief instead of Talion? Is Notion Thief + Ad Naus good?

  • @Lorry_Draws

    @Lorry_Draws

    Ай бұрын

    I think the best way to judge is the floor. Adnaus's floor is maybe put 6 in your hand because your life is too low. Talion's floor is draw 3ish if you play her later in the game. Notion thief's floor is draw 1, die to bowmasters

  • @deeds2r

    @deeds2r

    Ай бұрын

    @@Lorry_Draws good ole bow masters

  • @Lorry_Draws

    @Lorry_Draws

    Ай бұрын

    @@deeds2r I love it but it did mess up a lot of cards 😅

  • @deeds2r

    @deeds2r

    Ай бұрын

    @@Lorry_Draws big butt value baby 😂

  • @Dubbios
    @DubbiosАй бұрын

    As a Tivit player, trying it to build it for the new meta; this seems to tell me that playing negro is a good idea. I'm I right?

  • @cedhtv

    @cedhtv

    Ай бұрын

    necro struggels a bit outside of red. final fortune is key to make it better. That is what I have learned from looking at data. But it could work fine still for you. data is not everythig.

  • @Dubbios

    @Dubbios

    Ай бұрын

    @@cedhtv thanks man! You are the best!

  • @msolace580
    @msolace580Ай бұрын

    you just put talion into TnK over/+ one ring, its a boss. talion control loses red which is too good right now. Breena is another choice. dont cut ad naus from tk ..... necro isnt in every TnK ether. But we should maybe go faster, as Stella is a beast !

  • @zweis
    @zweisАй бұрын

    The only people who watch this channel are nerds who have way too much time to waste on cEDH. Of course we'll watch a 2 hour analysis

  • @cedhtv

    @cedhtv

    Ай бұрын

    well this might be true.

  • @thetangelo1375
    @thetangelo1375Ай бұрын

    Pick a lane!

  • @marlonlam6959
    @marlonlam6959Ай бұрын

    oh shit. first.

  • @marlonlam6959

    @marlonlam6959

    Ай бұрын

    second

  • @marlonlam6959

    @marlonlam6959

    Ай бұрын

    third

  • @marlonlam6959

    @marlonlam6959

    Ай бұрын

    fourth

  • @marlonlam6959

    @marlonlam6959

    Ай бұрын

    fifth

  • @marlonlam6959

    @marlonlam6959

    Ай бұрын

    sixth

  • @fernandob2275
    @fernandob2275Ай бұрын

    Play neither and play Sharuum instead

  • @cedhtv

    @cedhtv

    Ай бұрын

    well said.

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