AD-1 Amp Dyno Taramps Smart8 by Jones Subwoofer Solutions JSS
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AD-1 Amp Dyno Taramps Smart8 by Jones Subwoofer Solutions JSS
Manufacturer ratings:
4000w RMS @ 4 ohms
8000w RMS @ 2 ohms
8000w RMS @ 1 ohms
Dyno bank consists of
1x 135ah CMAX, no active charging.
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I appreciate you getting this Dyno out so quick! Thank you for what you do! I also appreciate you doing a variety of relevant amplifiers, and not brand nut hugging like the other guy.
@RyanBassForLife
11 ай бұрын
I'm subscribed as well and it was nice.
@Chuck_Sanders
11 ай бұрын
Yeah, he's hugging JP and his products something awful. I've began to lose interest in watching his videos anymore.
@Hammerback972
6 ай бұрын
I went away from that channel with the introduction of the D4S amps. Test em fine, but if ur getting kick backs from amps sold, just stay away from pushing them. He used to say positive things about other amps (example Korean amps battle between sundown and orion) no way hed make that video today. (unless orion paid him)
Waited for years for this amp to come out! Great job on the dyno man!👏
@IbeArcher
11 ай бұрын
You know they also have Smart 8 Bass model.
@1ohmwrecker
11 ай бұрын
@@IbeArcher sure! I use a smart bass 5k in my car right now. I was gonna wait for that dyno to buy it. Then I will own the smart 3k, 5k, and 8k lol.
@RyanBassForLife
11 ай бұрын
@@1ohmwrecker yeah hay Scott I finally went to a sound competition and got lots of good demos. ✔️it out.
@1ohmwrecker
11 ай бұрын
@@RyanBassForLife awesome man! It's a good time!
I love that amplifier. I also went to a local show and I got many demos.
Taramps has great potential
@commonsenseisdeadin2024
11 ай бұрын
They are not a new manufacturer
@brockmarquis8511
11 ай бұрын
@@commonsenseisdeadin2024 that doesn't mean they don't have the potential to make a better product.
@robertthabassheadjacobson4968
11 ай бұрын
@@brockmarquis8511i have the smart 5 and its amazing. So many fail safes and it puts out great power and never clips like alot of other amps ive owned
@poohwecampbell7799
5 ай бұрын
Yes the smart series is very appreciated
I like it when amps actually protect themselves from destruction. Great testing!
@Facekicker
11 ай бұрын
Agreed! Thank you!
got this the other day it pulls amps like or more than my 12ks so thank you for doing a thorough test on this now maybe mine will last longer
"let me fix my meter here.. ope lost half my decal" lol i feel that bro. Great vid
These are extremely impressive! Great protection circuitry and tons of power output. Taramps have really stepped up their game with the entire Smart line and for the money, nothing else can even come close!
@Facekicker
7 ай бұрын
I agree, I recommend Taramps more than anything these days
Glad to see this on the channel. I’m hoping you get the Smart 8 Bass next and test that one.
@Facekicker
11 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@Aar0n2009
11 ай бұрын
@@Facekicker YES!
@PunisherOfDeath101
10 ай бұрын
Smart 8 bass .5-2ohm version has the best internals. Can't wait to see that dyno.
@Aar0n2009
10 ай бұрын
@@PunisherOfDeath101 hoping mine ships soon 🤞🏻
This amp would be so nice. I wish I had 1 instead of my 3 Soundqubed S1-2250.1 amplifiers👍
Great video hands down. And i like the background music. Oh yeah, AND IT DIDN'T 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 UP....
Seems like they made the throttling circuitry smarter on this version, it makes some power for sure I think this so the future of amps
Long awaited
Legit player right there j..
Great video! Subscriber 7001! Keep up the good work. 😃
Yes sir finally the Smart 8k 😁
Hey man I really enjoy watching your dyno videos cus you really show everything we need to see I like to see you dyno a taramp 12k .5ohm stable edition
@deanjohns87
11 ай бұрын
The Taramps MD 12k .5ohm edition
@Facekicker
11 ай бұрын
I can likely get that on the bench soon
It would be nice if you could adjust the limiter to mimick the power from 1ohm 2ohm exactly instead of coming up short in 1ohm and but I get it. These are demo amps really solid clean power for the money. 8k+ for under 700 can't beat that.
Sweet Monster!
Very impressive
Got mine Saturday from you and got it hooked for Sunday event and blew three of my subwoofer spider off there landing. The video inform me why haha
@Facekicker
11 ай бұрын
Oops!
@jimmyjam5588
11 ай бұрын
@@Facekicker thank you for the video it was spot on 👌
Beast amp
Awesome video. Compare numbers between Bass ,8K and S8K (smart)? Assuming you've tested B8K before, just present the numbers. Ty
I pre-ordered mine and got it hooked up and tested it with my AMM-1 but could not find my clamp meter (bummer), but I got 6,615 watts @ 1.6 ohms to my (2) Sundown U-15’s and hit a 150.07db on the windshield. Still have some fine tuning but it replaced (2) Smart3 Bass. Awesome amps.
@rashad5286
10 ай бұрын
How does it sound?still waiting for mine to show up.
@Randy_G
10 ай бұрын
@@rashad5286 sounds amazing and gained 1.5db. Really impressed with this amp.
@ErnestoDiaz-uy1hz
10 ай бұрын
@Randy_G I have a deaf bounce machete 2100 d. 2,000 watts on two sundown x10v3 in a ported box. And it sounds really good. But I know the subs need more power to really see the potential. I love the deep bass music . Like bass mechanic. Bass 305. Bass cube . Bass trap music. Will this teramps 8k sound good for the low down deep bass?????
@Randy_G
10 ай бұрын
@@ErnestoDiaz-uy1hz i would say 100%. I have heard such a big difference with this amp and adjusted it a little an hit 151.5db on the windshield but then my rear view mirror fell off and some plastic broke so I haven’t turned it up that loud since. It definitely is a lot cleaner sounding then other amps I have had. Very impressed. I like that same music too.
@rashad5286
10 ай бұрын
@ErnestoDiaz-uy1hz yes honestly I'd say the smart 8 bass sound best to me on the lower notes. Just be sure to set a crossover at 80/60hz -24db slope on your headhnit or dsp
💯💯💯...
F#%k yes! Alright let's see this!
👍👍
Great dyno! I love your dynos cause you just get straight to the meat. Are you sure that not a teampie tho?😂
Yes!!!!!!!
Great video. But the newest version of the Taramps "Bass" Smart 8k is 1/2 ohm stable, and is rated to do the full 8k, @ 1/2 ohm, 1 ohm, and 2 ohms= will give all of its power if wired @ 1/2 ohm, and your enclosure has 4x, impedance rise! If you had this reg. Smart 8k=full range model, you tested in this video, thats only 1 ohm stable, and you had 4x impedance rise= 5k, so in this example the "Bass" Smart 8k, wired @ 1/2 ohm rising to 2 ohms, would be making 3,000 more watts, on music, @ freq., with 4x rise, vs the full range Smart 8k. Just something for you all to ponder. Hope this helps 💖 to all!
👍🏾great video
@Facekicker
7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
At what setting is crossover set on amp when testing people say should be all down but get more voltage halfways or higher & adjust externally
Taramps is king... Everyone else want a arm and a leg. Buy a taramps smart bass and dial the gain back and your still making power like the competition at 1/3 the price.
What happened with the 1khz test i got the MD version for my mids wondering if this one popped more
I have an old taramps hd 8000 - 2 ohm version on 3 sundown X v2 I’m thinking about getting one of these 🤔🤔🤔
@poohwecampbell7799
5 ай бұрын
I’m going to get one also & I have the MD 5000 .. but I want the smart technology the Smart Bass 8k that is !!!
Could you go over the detailed components on the board with a quality level on each part? Maybe even as far as if they make their pcb's in house *(unlikely but possibly designed by their own arc) or who makes them, from what country, etc... We all like hearing the details inside the details.
@Facekicker
11 ай бұрын
They're made in house, in Brazil. Taramps has dedicated R&D dept and build factories. Component quality is above shelf part Chinese parts but aren't Japanese or Korean levels of qc.
Finally a bass knob....
So Smart 8 vs Smart 8 Bass whats everyone's preference? I need big power in a small package. I never wanted to go Brazillian, but my Wolrfram is too big
What’s the difference between this one and the smart 8 bass?
dang idk if i remember seeing the dyno say "over" on anything over these years
Do you think 80 ah (yinlong) Xs power lithium and 270 amp alt charging at 15.5 / 15.6 is enough to power this amp . Wired to 1 ohm with rise usually from 1.7 to 4 ohm . Somtimes higher on some higher bass frequency music 40hz and over 😢. I just ordered the smart 8k cause my Orion XTR2500.1D output to speaker set screws all stripped out when removing it from trunk after like 4 years.
@Facekicker
11 ай бұрын
Easily.
so 730A is where they throttle nice!
@Facekicker
11 ай бұрын
Definitely seems to be the point it kicks in
@commonsenseisdeadin2024
11 ай бұрын
I'm impressed by the output at .5. however I find it interesting it did a certified run but instant protect on the burst @.5. I am still contemplating two smart 3s over my twisted 3.5k's on my NSv3s in my build. I'll of course go in and reinforce the traces with some copper wick or plate, but I love big footprint amps too much! 😂
If these where reliable in the long run they will b great power amps mines when out in 7 months
@Facekicker
11 ай бұрын
Taramps reliability is among the top
@Chuck_Sanders
11 ай бұрын
More times then not, it's user error when using full bridge amplifiers.
@10krms54
11 ай бұрын
@@Chuck_Sanders i am sure it is in my case it was install by a stereo shop thats been around for over 15 years in my area
@Chuck_Sanders
11 ай бұрын
@@10krms54 doesn't mean they understand the full bridge. Just because a brick and mortar installed... doesn't mean much honestly. My neighbor that lives about a half mile from me owns a car audio shop. He called me 7 times this year alone to help with taramps and banda setup. He has been at the same location since 1991.
@10krms54
11 ай бұрын
@@Chuck_Sanders sure now i am back with my older twisted sounds 3.5k thats been pounding for years n still sounds amazing will never go full bridge again just my opinion thats all have a good day
should test a orion hcca 3k see what you get
Oh yah let's Us See what inside of the smart 8k guts UNDERTH metal heatsinks. Please do Show it to Us next Taramps electronics 8k Smart Ampiliers.
@Facekicker
11 ай бұрын
Gut shots are at end of video, the reverse of board is nothing but a series of solder joints
What would have been more interesting is seeing how it behaves at lower input voltages...say coming from a standard AGM...I wonder if the "smart" amp would compensate and still put out the same numbers?
@Facekicker
3 ай бұрын
I ran one of the smaller Smart series amps at various voltages from mid 12s to 15s with very little variance.
The smart 5 put out more on the dyno tho 😳
so roughly 8200 watts real world numbers, not bad at all.
how to stop the throttleing on the smart 5/8... like what input votage, charging voltage, ac voltage, amp draw should you see to prevent it from the throttle
@soundqubedkiller5885
3 ай бұрын
That is the one thing i hat about my smart 8k. Because when it does that you can hear it in the subs. Hopefully when i wire up to 2 ohms i don't get that anymore
What it do at 3ohm?
Why not try to have a starting voltage of 14.4?
Hey Jason did you ever calculate the 4 ohm rating?since it was over.
@Facekicker
8 ай бұрын
~6000w estimated at 85% efficiency
First partial payment sent for the bass version!
@Aar0n2009
10 ай бұрын
Annnnnd paid for! lol
Have the smart 5. It's loud af but I put my synergy 3k back in. Sounds a ton better imo but nice to have when I just wanna get loud
@Facekicker
11 ай бұрын
Many of the "sound" complaints are remedied with dsp or external xover
@rashad5286
10 ай бұрын
Try setting the LPF on the amp with an O scope, the marking arent correct and taper off around 37hz at halfway. Also use a DSP to set a -24db 60/80hz crossover and you'll be good.
One brutal test for a Amp that isn't rated for half ohm, these resistive loads r rough
Very nice… but can you strap them doe?
@Facekicker
11 ай бұрын
Not strappable
@FATHERSOFBASS
11 ай бұрын
@@Facekicker okie dokie smokie
@JohnG1000
11 ай бұрын
😂 it's full bridge . It's basically already internally strapped to the other half of itself.
Can you post the amperage pulled at 1 and 2 ohms ?
@Facekicker
11 ай бұрын
I do in every video
@chadbeverly4926
11 ай бұрын
Oh I see it now it was something going on with my screen that zoomed it weird, my mistake
Crazy how the bass version doesn’t make as much power this baffles me
What hz do u use for cerfied?
@Facekicker
11 ай бұрын
40hz
love the channel brother hope all is going well for you. I've been chatting with slapz audio about there Shok 8k and basically its a ticking time bomb. he told me that even running the amp at 12v for a long time will burn it up. and u need a perfect 14.4 volts for it so god forbid if you're at idle and the volts drop 2 volts he won't warranty them, seems like a scam to me. so, my question is about the smart bass and smart tara amps??>? they say operation is 9.5 or so to 16 volts. so, if I ran the Smart bass 5k amp at the 1.3 ohm load I'd like to run for my 3 subs and already run two 2ks strapped the Cab2000.1s strapped at 1.3 ohms and only drop to12.8 , how will the smart bass 5k do for power More? and stability? will I have problems and will i gain some watts ???
@Facekicker
11 ай бұрын
Smart5k will probably clamp ~2k more than the Cabs are doing after rise.
@Facekicker
11 ай бұрын
Similar load on electrical
@annihilationindustries1990
11 ай бұрын
@@Facekicker ok so if i drop to low 12s even i should be safe ? , i have two 220 amp alts and two agm north start batteries under the hood and then 4 runs of sky high 2/0 ofc to the back ??
@Facekicker
11 ай бұрын
@@annihilationindustries1990 I honestly would want more battery reserve, but you'll be fine.
@annihilationindustries1990
11 ай бұрын
@@Facekicker ok as of now when i had my amps strapped at .5 it dropped to the high 12s but it would dip the front of my truck down the alts were working hard 😂. Thanks for the info
10KW
So can the smart8k be ran at half ohm i mean it did it on the dyno but can it do it for a daily
@Facekicker
11 ай бұрын
Yes no problem at all, just might see some throttling.
@dblovah5156
10 ай бұрын
Even at 1ohm you'll hear that throttling back of power that's what I hate most with the smarts
@Facekicker
10 ай бұрын
@@dblovah5156 wired to 1 ohm you will definitely see enough rise that it won't throttle.
@dblovah5156
10 ай бұрын
@@Facekicker trust me bruh I had 4 smart 5k at one ohm one per sub and I call tell when it was throttling it was obvious as hellllll did an install on a smart bass @.5 definitely heard it in that install for sure.
@dblovah5156
10 ай бұрын
@@Facekicker only installs I haven't heard it throttling back was a smart 3 wired 1ohm in a 4th and a smart 5 wired to 2ohm on a single avatar
Amazing power from that amp. I could be hating but Taramps always feel so cheaply made when you pick them up like the bottom plate is very flimsy
@Mr.NpK143
11 ай бұрын
It is, but they have to cut the cost somewhere 🤔! But frfr Taramp is on top of the mountain. We can't even use the "it's dirty power & not Korean" anymore. 🫡 Taramp
@Facekicker
11 ай бұрын
They feel cheap to people because they're lighter, due to requiring less components and having fans instead of very heavy heatsink. Their circuitry is very stout, especially on the newest models.
@iThoughtUHad2Bitch
11 ай бұрын
That's because half bridge designs are using the same technology that been around for the past 20+ years requiring more components and making it weigh more, whereas the Taramps is using the latest full bridge design. TBH it will eventually get to a point it no longer makes sense to stick with half bridge design over full bridge and you'll see all the big names switching to it. Half bridge is pretty outdated now as far as design goes. Full bridge offers great power, less components (meaning less parts that can fail within the amplifier), greater efficiency as well. The build quality can be just as good as most Korean built half bridge designs too. Look at Powerus amplifiers for example, their PW15000 is literally one of the best amps on the market and wayyyy cheaper than any half bridge amplifier with similar power and build quality.
@Mr.NpK143
11 ай бұрын
@iThoughtUHad2Bitch lol this is a funny comment 🤣. First off powerus just went out of business. 2ndly powerus and a host of other full range brands like Sound Digital cost about as much as a Korean board when factoring in putting the full bridge on the lows. The funniest thing was your efficiency theory. Half bridge is by far more efficient than full bridge on the lows. And the biggest benefit is the ability to run at .5ohm and lower
@iThoughtUHad2Bitch
11 ай бұрын
@@Mr.NpK143 Thanks for your comment. Care to share the info on Powerus going out of business? Sound Digital is no where close to Powerus as far a build quality and implementation, just like taramps isn't either. Any full bridge amp can play lows just as well if not better than a half bridge design. I believe you're mistaken of how these amplifiers work and how to calculate efficiency. The efficiency of the half-bridge converter is lower than that of the full-bridge converter because the half-bridge converter experiences a higher current stress. Full-bridge inverters are more efficient than half-bridge inverters because they can utilize the entire DC voltage swing, from 0 volts to the peak voltage. I invite you to read a book about basic circuitry design before making false claims. Actually, here is a video to make it easy for you to understand. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lGqo28yRg6vcd8o.html
Outstanding!! Wish they built this to last ,,but they dont,, Dam shame!!!
@TrunkThunderLithium
11 ай бұрын
They do last it's just ppl wanna run em high voltage taramps don't like it. Gotta have externally cooling fans if your running it hard half ohm .the bass version line up surprisingly has worst rail voltage limit then the regular smart model or their MD model for comparison. Seen plenty old old MD amps. Guys just abuse their shit an a common issue is because how big the fans are in the heat sink if you got any little strand of copper laying around close from biting down on the wire connections power or speakers. One little strand sucks in POP!!! goes the mosfets !!!
@bassbrother101
11 ай бұрын
They do last
@bassbrother101
11 ай бұрын
Had my smart 3 bass for 1 year and 6months now
@Joe_1776
11 ай бұрын
They last just fine. It's the people using them on crap electrical that tend to blow them, they aren't as forgiving as Korean boards with voltage drops or over voltage.
@1ohmwrecker
11 ай бұрын
I've got the smart 3 in my jeep that is 3 yrs old now. And have used the smart bass 5k in my Mercedes now for over 1.5 yrs. I know MD series is kinda wishy washy, but these smart amps are super solid!
Music is way too loud
@Facekicker
7 ай бұрын
Hey I've made some changes on my newest video, please let me know if it's any better.
I bet it does six and a half @ 1
@minus3dbintheteens60
11 ай бұрын
Wow, it does a lot better than the smart 5K! I need one of those in my life
you should scratch that SMD crap off your AD1 or at least put your sticker over it.. SM is such a tool and he had NO HAND in designing or creating that device. Tony D make that.. SM just happened to pay him for advertising space
@Facekicker
11 ай бұрын
Thanks Chuck
@minus3dbintheteens60
11 ай бұрын
SM is an absolute fallace