PrecisionCraftedMaintenance@gmail.com To everyone who has watched this: Thank you. Since these cars are now out of warranty extension and people still show interest in this repair, I am offering this service to anyone that would like to have the work done. If you’re in the DC/MD/VA, or even want to have your car shipped to me - contact me at PrecisionCraftedMaintenance@gmail.com for estimates on the repair. PrecisionCraftedMaintenance@gmail.com Thanks for watching. Xavier Lotuaco ACURA Master Technician

@emilcortes9786

Жыл бұрын

How much did everything cost,at dealer of acura ?

You sir, have mastered your craft! I was amazed at how you made such a huge task (in my opinion) look like you were baking cookies. Freaking amazing. Thank you!

@infinite540

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree.

@ozb2006

Жыл бұрын

mmm he didn't film all of it, a job like this takes a few days

@SrColon309

Жыл бұрын

I'm two weeks late. I take a long time exhaust bolts.

@thedistance8843

Жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more, well done brother. 👏

I dealt with Acura for over a year. Finally the oil consumption notice came out so I took it in. They did the oil consumption test which meant driving it for 1000 miles and measuring consumption. I saw them over fill my reservoir by over a quart. I simply thought they had measured how much they put in, then they woyld drain it and measure how much came out after I drove the Thousand Miles. When they went to the dipstick I told them no way. I had already done three tests myself and knew that it consumed well over a quart and a half every Thousand Miles which is insane. They told me that I was wrong. I quickly changed their tune when I told them I had documented it on KZread. To make a long story short, after explaining to the service manager that I'm a very good backyard mechanic and not an idiot, he agreed to oversee the consumption test himself with my assistance. After the test, he agreed to do the work. I have heard many people have been turned down which is almost criminal since they sent out a service recommendation, although they did not call it a recall. Definitely a design flaw by Acura.

@photojunkysdronezonevlog

3 жыл бұрын

@@NSXavier997 really enjoyed that reply. I was told there was a design flaw in the pistons and rings for a certain block of years, although the person who told me could have been speaking out of their arse. Thanks again for all the information.

@CMP-wi6lw

3 жыл бұрын

They put me tru hell am still consuming oil..

@photojunkysdronezonevlog

3 жыл бұрын

@@CMP-wi6lw how much per 1k miles?

@2flyaznguy

2 жыл бұрын

I feel you’re pain. Went through the same thing till finally a letter came in. After my TL 3.7 re build. Still burns oil but not a lot. Maybe half a litre till next interval.

@dubois762

5 ай бұрын

My dealership Toyota where I had a consumption test but dealership never did it when I thought they did and I was using more than a quart every 1000 miles. But lost out on a new engine cause of dealerships stupidity. Wasn't like they were paying for it. I spend just as much money in oil as gas..

As someone who's taken apart my J35 in my Ridgeline to many times I can really appreciate your skill level and knowledge of this engine. Thanks for a great video

Working at toyota as a lube tech for 9 months now and seeing you disassemble everything and put it back together was awesome! Keep up the great work

@NSXavier997

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Great to hear that other fellow Technicians are viewing this video and enjoying it.

I’ve done about four of these oil consumption rebuilds at the Acura dealership and it really shocked me that you started from the bottom end of the engine. Personally I’ve always worked on everything from up top then work my way down but now after watching this I might actually try a different approach to my next rebuild. Glad this popped up on my feed 😃

Watching the speed and precision of the work makes me question my DIY efforts :) Great video, thanks, Xavier!

@pedrodepacas319

4 жыл бұрын

My gf Purchased a 2010 MDX Last August, and only now I noticed its oil consumption (after a road trip)... I called the dealer and have an Apt Thurs to have the consumption test done.. but because this is second hand purchase, we never got the recall letter (we havent even owned it one year) But I am certain it burns around ~1qt per 600 miles.. Vehicle has 95k miles... do you think this Will this still be covered under the recall?

@JulianRangel13

3 жыл бұрын

@@pedrodepacas319 I’m not sure if you ever got the repair or not I hope you did. It should’ve been covered you were under 125k miles but the age might be the issue.

Everyone, I have a 2013 Acura TL SHAWD, I finally started feeling the experience of the oil consumption issue at around 115k miles, heavily burning oil all the sudden, 1 quart every 1000 miles approx. the correct fix to this is to add oil or change oil and add oil until oil level is normal. Take it out on the freeway and do about 5-6 hard pulls from 30mph to 100mph, so hitting 7k rpm a few times each run, and there we go, it’s fixed. Running engine hard to high rpm breaks away, cleans, and vibrates away the carbon build up in the rings. Haven’t had oil consumption since. And now that I know, I do this about once a month to keep the clean cycle and never have the issue again. All the 3.7 j series vtec engines have this issue. So MDX, TL, Rl, just do this maintenance Vtec clean run and you’ll be glad I found the answer for y’all. I’m serious too, no trolling, try it and see if it fixes your issue. And if it fixed your issue, I wouldn’t mind a donation for saving you $4000.

@reycuerdos

Ай бұрын

Check OK? Money order?

@tylermcdermott6730

12 күн бұрын

​@@reycuerdos did it work for you?

@reycuerdos

11 күн бұрын

@@tylermcdermott6730 so just got mine about a month ago with the same oil consumption issues. It would even clatter when cold and pulling out in second gear. It would even smoke initially when pulling from a hole. I’ve replaced the oil with 5W-30 and added Marvel Mystery Oil as indicated on the bottle. I’ve been doing WOT runs every time I get a chance, specially from 2nd and 3rd gear. Since then I have noticed it no longer smokes nor does it clatter when accelerating when cold. I’ve still have to record any oil consumption. But this fixed the oil consumption on my civic Si. So I have high hopes.

Amazing efficiency in this repair, easy to see you have mastered this. Thank you for sharing your insights!

Simply put... Good mechanics are hard to find. This guy is excellent

@NSXavier997

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir for the kind words. It is good to know that quality of my work isn't going unnoticed.

@dentpulla

2 жыл бұрын

@@NSXavier997 hello and trust me my friend. Your teacher taught you exactly how to be a real mechanic and you are carrying on his teachings. Thank you for the video because I have the 6 speed TL sh awd and having that issue and now I see exactly what needs to be done. Perfect video. Stay safe

@LeoM-zt3pl

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, you can tell he takes pride in his work

@dentpulla

2 жыл бұрын

@@LeoM-zt3pl those type are a few and the proud. If you find one keep them. I got one myself and trust my cars with him like they were my children 😂

16:40 😂 “you guys stay organized cant be mixing any of this shit up” very true.

that's calm confidence. Wish I was at that point. I'm always freaking out working on my daily driver. Working on a customers car...that confident and swift?...no way. Impressive.

This video should have 300k views! Technician is definitely a pro!

Hi there. Awesome video. This is the exact work that I will need to have done on my MDX. I have a 2010 Acura MDX with just over 200.000 thousand klms on it here in Montreal Canada. There was no past problems with this SUV at all. Always had oil changes done on time and or before due cycle to boot. Just so happens that 2 days ago (Jan. 4 2021). My engine light came on and I had a rough engine going on. I kinda knew that now I was running on like 5 pistons. I brought it to an Acura Plus dealership and had them check it out. Because of this damage due to a defect that I am no longer covered for and knowing that I won't be able to get a fair trade in for this SUV, I invested the 700$ for them to start to take the engine apart to find out the problem. What they found was a loss of compression due to one of the pistons being stuck. They noticed a scratch line mark inside the piston bore which probably was why I was losing oil and piston was now stuck and not working. That being said, I would only end up losing money for a trade in and theres no way for me to afford a new MDX at all, I told them to go ahead and find some replacement parts from a same 3.7 litre engine to bring the MDX back to Acura standards. This will end up costing between 7.000 to 9.000 thousand dollars plus taxes. Question to you is: I know that Acura had offered to replace any damaged pistons due to their recall a couple yrs ago. They had a Sept 2019 date dead line on their offer. Do you think it is worth me calling Acura to tell them of my situation and for some type of settlement payment back to me since I am putting this kind of money to keep my only automobile? Or do you think that they just say that I am out of luck due to my 200 thousand plus klms on my MDX? Kindly waiting for your reply if you can. marceldesormeaux1@gmail.com

@dentpulla

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear about your issue. I think Acura doesn't play fair when it comes to recalls etc. There shouldn't be a time limit on any cars they build and we pay for. Would love to know the final result and hopefully it worked out some way. We customers don't just have money like that sitting around and even if we did we shouldn't have to pay anything built by them. Shame on Honda

@alljerseysmatter.

Жыл бұрын

Damn He totally ignored you. I wouldn't pay $10K unless it was a Brand new engine with a warranty. I hope you sold it and put that money to another used car.

Thank you for doing this video. My 2012 MDX is getting the service done and this helps me understand the work involved and the problem that created it.

Just want to thank you for the great video and tips. For the 1% of us viewers who are actually tackling this job ourselves, its very helpful!

@JmanRx81

3 жыл бұрын

Same

Hi original owner of J30A5 accord, 6-speed, 181K, Last oil change thought the oil was low. After 2.7k on this oil change, I measured 2 quarts missing. This is a solid car, beside the oil, peeling paint. Heck, I’m still on the original clutch shows how much I take care of this car. In the DMV. I looked for replacement pistons but not available from Honda parts.

I just completed this job in my garage at home. It runs better now than before.

@dandee28

3 жыл бұрын

Is it hard to do. I have accord v6 2009

@JmanRx81

3 жыл бұрын

@@dandee28 depends on your skill level and resources/tools available to you and whether you have space in a garage to do it.

@dandee28

3 жыл бұрын

@@JmanRx81 is there a diy qalkthrough? I literally need to fill up a new 4.3 litre jug of oil every 3 weeks to a month in my accord. Honda says the vin number i provided does not put my model within range of the defected vin numbers they have on file when it clearly is affected. Its a manual v6 as well. They said its only happening to the auto versions

@JmanRx81

3 жыл бұрын

@@dandee28 not sure about V6 Accords. The engine is essentially the same I guess and so I suppose it could be the problem.

@jptrainor

Жыл бұрын

I'l be doing my 2010 Odyssey EX-L with a J35A7 this spring. It just started consuming oil, and had a misfire on cyldinder three (the bad one due to VCM fouling). I'm going to nurse it along until it warms up since working at sub freezing temps is no fun. A big job, but bot an intimidating job with some experience. Mine will get new catalytic converter heat shelds, including the third underbody cat, all new exhaust hardware and gaskets, an over due valve adjustment, egr cleaning, throttle bottle cleaning, etc, at the same time. Basically, a mid life tear apart and deep clean. I've had the vehicle since new, and I refuse to buy another minivan in this lifetime. This one has to last or my now young adult children can rent their own moving vehicle for the endless apartment hopping they do during university.

Xavier - it was an absolute pleasure seeing you work! You are a talented young man.

I'm hoping to prevent oil consumption issues on my Odyssey by deactivating the VCM.

After watching this video, I will pay whatever amount the cost is. Wow, so much involved. Great video. Wish you were in Austin to bring you business.

@NSXavier997

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the kind words! Contact me at the email provided in the pinned comment and we can discuss shipping your car to me! I just very recently completed this job for an owner of a AWD TL who shipped his car to me from Florida.

@ianbladuell2694

Жыл бұрын

@@NSXavier997 thx for quick reply.

Great stuff! After taking out a stock 220k mile J35a8, I put a j37a4 into my acura tl type s 6MT and love the torque. Had this is mind but because I'm supercharged, seems that the increased cylinder pressures as well as the rich condition created during boost, helps clean the rings. My J37 doesn't burn oil at all. Also great to phisically see the pistons and rods, maybe it's just me but they look more stout than the j35a8 pistons and rods. Maybe I can push this j37 a little more. Lol. Great work

@NSXavier997

3 жыл бұрын

With used J37 being plentiful and readily available, along with heavy aftermarket support, I greatly support you pushing it a little more!!!! Boost it up!!

I’m at this decision point on a K20a2 motor I intent to use for HPDE/time attack all stock, no cams or going past stock redline. Head is getting a valve job, bad pitting on the exhaust valve area that seals with the seats. So now I deciding on Just replacing the rings and bearing like in this video. I know this MDX has a lot fewer miles than my motor The rod bearings definitely needed replacing faint copper showing through on each one 3 main bearing half’s had scoring, crank is fine Motor has 150k Cross hatch looks good What to do, always fun lol Great video!!

I wish I could work like you, I bet you have a lot of experience to back this up. Great video.

@scientist100

3 жыл бұрын

And tools

This makes me want to try and rebuild mine some day. This isn't as bad as I thought.

"Tuna No Crust" you the Man I'd want working on my TL.......

You think with software updates and in materials for the engine it make the J37 engines better. Since Acura/Honda one of the few brands that actually cares. About what goes out there.

That was awesome. Im surprised no deglazed.

@mw3expert53

5 ай бұрын

The cylinder walls have a special coating in them that’s why you don’t see any crosshatching, putting a hone in it would ruin the cylinder wall

I am not a mechanic but I am thinking about redoing piston rings on my car myself. I have a 2004 Honda Accord V6 6-speed. I have been doing every research and the whole process doesn't seem too hard. Just very very tedious. My car isn't burning oil. And this would be something I'd maybe do in the springtime. I did my own timing belt last year and water pump for the first time and it wasn't actually too bad at all. I'm thinking about removing the cylinder head and redoing the gaskets and cleaning the valves this month. like I said Im no mechanic so I think at my own pace it will probably take me the weekend. I have never done it before but I've fully understand what needs to be done and procedures and steps regarding new head bolts. While I'm there I'm going to do the crank pulley seals and oil pump seals which as you know require the whole oil pan to come off. I was thinking if the oil pan is off and the head is already open. Is it easy just to remove the cylinders and re-ring them? Since I'm there anyway. Do I have to rebore or sleeve?or can I just install new rings and gently slide the pistons back in. I have been heavily researching this and doing homework and I believe I can do it but those are the few questions I have

@youandiryan

3 жыл бұрын

@@NSXavier997 yeah the car is not burning any oil at all, I will leave the rings and pistons alone then. The oil level does not move between its religious oil changes. So maybe I will just do the head and it's gaskets. And crank seals, and oil pump seal and oil pan then. Well I have the heads off maybe I will have them cleaned professionally. I have tried everything to stop the misfire when the engine is cold and it always comes back. I have done EGR cleaning, new PCV valve, valve adjustment, new valve cover gasket and tube seals, new spark plugs and coils and nothing seems to be solving the issue. the car will misfire when it's cold and run completely smooth when it's warm. So this leads me to believe either I have damaged or dirty valves, or head gasket that isn't showing typical head gasket signs

@OneKauz

3 жыл бұрын

@@youandiryan my 99 j30 accord had the same miss when cold. It finally showed its ugly face a few weeks ago with coolant spray from the overflow. After tear down I found the #1 cylinder had a loose head bolt & the head gasket was detroyed, all of the black on the gasket removed bout 30% of the side. I have the heads (both) off at a machine shop for a nice surface & valves. After 21 years the exhaust valves were a little leaky lol. Its not too tuff to get the heads off but its some work while the engine is in the car still. My heads should be back next week so the fun of putting it all together is next.

@youandiryan

3 жыл бұрын

@@OneKauz hey man thanks for the reply yeah I have a suspicion that I think it's the head gasket. It is the only thing left that it could be. That or the fuel injectors. But I am certain there is something wrong with the cylinder head gasket

@youandiryan

3 жыл бұрын

@@OneKauz what's weird is I'm not getting any mixture of coolant in the oil or oil in the coolant. It is not having typical head gasket symptoms except for the misfire. The car is not overheating. And I am blowing lots of hot air still. But I do believe it could be a head

@OneKauz

3 жыл бұрын

@@youandiryan remember you dont need coolant oil mixture if the gasket is leaking chamber to coolant jacket but not into the oil galleys. I would suggest a leak down test while cold or a block tester to check for combustion gas present in the cooling system. I tried to pretend I couldn't smell combustion gas in the coolant but I could as soon as I had the 1st p0301. I took it to a chain "mechanic" outlet (wont say who) and they failed to catch it as well. They couldn't reproduce cause it wasn't cold enough I'm guessing and they were more interested in their scopes then physical test. They wanted to charge $100 if they performed a block test at which time I said no thanks. I would say get solid evidence 1st that is conclusive before ripping anything apart too much or parts shotgun. The shop that I took it too finally decided it was my distributor (1998 & 1999 models) which it wasnt. Dont parts shotgun and good luck.

Damn you ROCK! EXCELLENT job. Guys like you amaze me. Wish I knew a guy like you in IN!

Wish you had done my 2011. The mechanic down at CCA didn’t get the exhaust strap back on tight and didn’t tighten the lugs to torque spec. Noises and wheels vibrating. SR said their best mechanic worked on it. I laughed as that’s pretty bad if you cant put the car back together right and tight. They were trying to hit me for valve adjustment service which I declined. So far its been fine. About 40k miles on new rings. cars at 150k+ want to take it to 300k. If you do side work, I’ll gladly hire and pay. Needs vent actuator and fuel pump is flaky. Other little things. I’m down county.

Love the smooth edit , great content ! 💯

Hey, great video! As an acura master mechanic, what are your thoughts on preventing this from happening (possibly?)

I just had this service done to my 2011 pilot. Not a cheap repair! and I'm pretty sure Honda only changed rings in cylinders 1,3 & 5

You know your craft well... excellent job! Surprised about one detail: I though part of the oil consumption problem on the J37 was the (larger than J35) treated aluminum bore instead of the iron liners used in all other J3X V6 models. But those bores looked really good, and you did not even run a hone thru them. So, why do J37s burn oil?

@robertjackson7590

2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2010 with no oil consumption problem @ 284K miles. I think if everyone used synthetic oil and serviced the PCV Valve every 30K they wouldn't have this problem. There were around 54K MDX's sold in 2010 and they all didn't need this service done including mine. It's up to the PCV Valve to pull these blowby gases from the crankcase. Notice the Blowby varnish in the front bank is far worse than the rear. There's a small tube on the rear valve cover to evacuate these gases going to the Intake tube before the Throttle body the front bank doesn't have. I suggest the PCV Valve system is a little under engineered and when you go up on CI it pushes it almost past it's limit of acceptable function. Again with the wrong oil and no PCV Valve checked like the perfect storm for this problem to develop. No one ever mentions the PCV Valve if it's Toyota or whatever brand and it's one of the major concerns when high oil consumption is a problem. Retired 3G mechanic. Xavier does an excellent job here making it look easy.... This isn't his first Rodeo.

I have an AWD TL I’m about to do this same job on, thanks for the very informative video

That was awesome man, too easy for you. Amazing!! Appreciate you making this video.

How much does a job like this cost for parts and labor separately?

Amazing job NSXavierTV! You obviously know what you're doing. Quick question, I have 2012 MDX, burning oil at about 1 litre per 2000km, there's 110,000 km on the engine. Other than the cost of extra oil, is there any long term damage that can happen to my MDX if I don't get the piston rings replaced as long as I make sure the Oil is always between low and high on dipstick? Thanks so much for your time!

@dandee28

2 жыл бұрын

itll start burning more and more eventually until your engine blows. My j35 just did that and now its in the shop for a new replacement swap. I was burning around the same amount of oil as you until it became every month, 2 weeks, 1 week and before it went, it was bone dry after 4 days of filling the oil. One of my pistons or bearing rods went and blew so mch smoke out the back. The sound starting it up was horrible. If you can get this job done I suggest it because I didnt

Fantastic informative video sir thank you for sharing 👍👍👍👍👍

great job looking to doing the pistons rings vales seals springs head gasket and vale cover gasket in my 08 jonda odyssey this helpwd me alot thank you!

My 2006 risgeline , number 4 cylinder cracked ring . Wish you were close !

I have this problem on my 2011 mdx and I am past the extended warranty Acura offered! But paying the stealership for this out of pocket is crazy.

@drdr140

4 жыл бұрын

Is there any "quick fix" that works" Lucas oil leak or bars? Dropping $2k on a 2011 with 211k miles doesn't seem worth it.

@JulianRangel13

4 жыл бұрын

Yea same here and I hate that I’m apart of the whole Acura lawsuit for the oil consumption. Such a headache!.!.

@ONeal397

3 жыл бұрын

@JinisiTV did you change the spark plug tube seals?

Amazing job. How many piston replacements have you done to work so efficiently? I would have definitely brought my vehicle to you if I was close to where you are.

@NSXavierTV so if someone was doing a J37 swap, 07-09 MDX J37's is the one to swap? 07-09 MDX J37's were not listed on a website I was looking at. If not, just replace the piston and rings with oem or aftermarket and call it done.

@NSXavier997

3 жыл бұрын

Correct, if you are doing an engine swap and plan to use a J37, you would want to look for one out of an 07-09 MDX for example. These first generation J37's do not have the oil consumption issues found in the second generation units. And yes, if you use a second generation J37 from a 10-13, you would benefit from swapping pistons and rings before installing it.

@jamiebradleyproctor7428

3 жыл бұрын

@@NSXavier997 I take it that the 2014 TL SHAWD have the same issue? Would 5000 oil change internals make enough difference to prevent this problem? I'm looking to buy a 14' 6 MT SHAWD that was babied and well maintained

@NSXavier997

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamiebradleyproctor7428 Yes, the SH-AWD TL’s share the same J37 engines that have oil consumption issues. Decreasing the mileage / time between service intervals would help if you can find one that isn’t burning oil, if the engine is already consuming oil, it will continue to get worse. The SHAWD TL 6MT you’re talking about is one of the best Acura’s made in my honest opinion. If you could find a good one, they’re definitely worth it. It is one of the few Acura’s I would consider “worth it to rebuild and repair” as values on them are pretty much bottomed out and will continue to hold steady.

@jamiebradleyproctor7428

3 жыл бұрын

@@NSXavier997 awesome thanks, I feel the same and sort of unique rare these days with 6 speed manual. Defiantly one of my favorite sedans!

Hi. can i just purchase parts to replace the timing belt and tensioner since its taken out anyway to save on labor. Acura is doing my '12 this week. Also what about the water pump and anything else that should be done while its apart? Great job man. Thanks

Now could this be solved with better oil? It seems to be caused by the rings getting carbon all over them and causing them to get stuck? I just bought my wife a 21 pilot and really hoping to never have this issue changing the oil every 5,000 miles with schaeffers.

Now that's a real mechanic!

My 2012 TL is about to go in for the exact same repairs covered under warranty however I suspect that I could have a burnt exhaust valve… Do the valves get inspected by mechanic upon cylinder head removal if you could chime in and let me know what exactly this guys gonna be looking for when he tears my car part… And if I do have a burnt exhaust valve cylinder number one what will be the remedial course of action? Is it mandatory to have the head resurfaced and does the valve seat need to be machined or does the valve just need to be replaced physically slid into the head and the job is complete? If you see this in time please chime in for me would be greatly appreciated thank you

@NSXavier997

2 жыл бұрын

If you have burnt valve(s) your engine is probably misfiring. Is it? If any are burnt, then the course of action would be to replace the burnt valve(s) with new ones. It is not mandatory to have the heads resurfaced. You remove the old burnt valve(s), inspect the valve seat for damage, and if it is OK, install the new valve(s) and lap them. If there is valve seat damaged, then the cylinder head is sent off to the machine shop to have the valve seats replaced and new valves installed and lapped. I only recommend resurfacing the cylinder heads if inspection of them with a machinist straight edge and feeler gauges show that they are warped.

@freshmotion4you

2 жыл бұрын

@@NSXavier997 OK that clears a couple of my questions up thank you very much for the reply it’s much appreciated… Obviously the motor isn’t torn down yet I’m still on stage 2/3 for oil consumption but it will be going in to get torn down in about a week it is misfiring and popping zero compression cylinder number one… So I guess technically it could be a broken ring but I believe it is an exhaust valve but my car is burning 1 L of oil per every 250 km of driving which is the equivalent to me adding 1 L per week… So I know it is going to get new pistons and rings I’m just trying to minimize my cost of repair for the valve which I am guessing that is burnt

Wow...what an efficient mechanic. A lot of skill and care...two factors that are rare these days. Great video. I have a 2012 MDX...so far, so good. Do you recommend any particular type of oil. I use Mobil1 or Pennzoil Platinum. I understand that some oils have more detergents than others.

@NSXavier997

3 жыл бұрын

100% opinion and strictly my personal preference is Castrol edge Synthetic 5w20 for your ‘12 MDX.. I use it in my ‘13 MDX.

@starrider2352

2 жыл бұрын

@@NSXavier997 that's what I've been using, I only have 52,000 on my 2008 mdx no oil consumption in beginning but now a quart about 3,000 miles but I'm hoping it doesn't get much worse, seems the more mileage ones have the problems sooner and I wouldn't be in that range of covered repairs, but I would trust your repairs more than montano Acura, geez I'd even drive 10-15 hours to have you guys doing work if I ever needed it or you ever slowed down only watched 8 mins and thought you know what's going on.not sure if it was also on the 2007 mdx as the recall seemed it was 2008 on up I think or hoping I got lucky and a better built leftover from 2007?

Such a big job. I have a 2012 TL and I think I may have this problem.

My wife has the same exact car same issues. 2011 silver exterior and black interior. If Honda won’t pay for it I’m gonna just keep adding oil every other month😫😫 Great job how much is this out of pocket??

@dashcamjourney4599

2 жыл бұрын

The catalytic converter will be toast eventually

You sir are amazing big job but you make it look like you just changed a simple spark plug I am impressed

Honda advises to just throw on new rings and Pistons? I don't see how those compression rings are going to seal in a bore that has exactly zero cross hatching left? Seems like a Band-Aid on a bullet hole. The new issue will be excessive blow by from the lack of compression rings bedding in. Props on your efficiency and know how though.

@NSXavier997

11 ай бұрын

Idk man. The 2013 MDX I put 35k miles on since I did this repair to it hasn’t burned a lick of oil. But thanks for watching fella.

First off, great video!! Appreciate you filming this. Question on this, so once you’re ready to pull the pistons out, obviously not all the rod ends are going to be flush at the bottom of the cylinder near the opening in the oil pan ( bottom of the cylinder) do you have to crank the pistons over by putting a 19mm on the crank pulley and crank the motor over to gain access to the other rods so you can remove the 2 bolts that hold the rod bearings to the rods so you can push them out, or do you can you just reach up high into the cylinders to remove the 2 bolts off those certain pistons that aren’t more flush at the bottom of the cylinder? ( sorry for the long message) just not sure on how you push all the pistons out if you can’t get to the rod bearing ends to remove the 2 bolts. Thank you!!

@NSXavier997

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! You are correct, not all pistons will be at BDC, so the position of the connecting rods will only allow access and removal of the rod bolts for two cylinders at a time. You rotate the crank shaft using a ratchet or a wrench to turn the 19MM harmonic damper bolt which then rotates the crankshaft and brings the pistons lower in the bore which then gives you access to the bolts you need to remove. Once the rod caps are removed, you can rotate the crankshaft so the piston then travels to TDC and you push them out from that position using a small hammer and long extension with a piece of rubber at the end. I push them out in cylinder pairs while keeping track of my rod caps, bolts and any rod bearings that may pop out. Though on different engine cycles, the pistons that share the same TDC and BDC are 1&5, 2&6, 3&4. Meaning you are able to access, loosen and remove the rod bolts with those cylinder pairs at the same time.

Impressive work, to say the least. Do all J37 engines have this issue? I just bought a used 2012 Acura TL-SH AWD, with 74k miles on it, and the carfax shows the previous owner changed the oil every 7k miles (long intervals). I don't think a carfax would show if the car had this work done, and seeing the costs to repair this issue, I hope my car isn't going to explode.

@NSXavier997

2 жыл бұрын

Head to your nearest ACURA dealership and request them to run a VIN status inquiry. If the pistons have been done under warranty extension, then under the section titled "Closed Campaign/Recall Information", it will list "19-052" with a "C" beside it. If you don't see that then I highly doubt it has been done. To answer your question yes, all J37 engines will exhibit this problem at some point.

@BobsWS61

2 жыл бұрын

@@NSXavier997 thanks for the response. I appreciate it

Impressive level of mastery. How do you keep track of all those connectors???

I have a 2010 Acura TL SHAWD w Tech and I remember getting this notice from Acura. I only have 54,000 miles on it since I only drive about 2,500 miles per year. I figured Acura might give me a runaround regarding the consumption so I never pursued it. I’ve never had any engine or performance problems other than the low speed torque judder, but I’m always a quart low when I do the yearly oil change. So I’m figuring my pistons probably look like that?

holy shit, that's literally tearing the whole engine down, really good job and efficient work! my MDX just got this problem after hitting 120k miles, so I was wondering if Acura still covers this kind of fix? or if the customer has to spend 4-digit money to fix it by themselves? Thanks a lot, dude!

@aaronsong3668

2 жыл бұрын

@Sohc_Vtec got it, thanks man, I think I will find a familiar mechanic to help me fix it.

@aaronsong3668

2 жыл бұрын

@Sohc_Vtec well, asked 2 acura dealer in Toronto, no warranty anymore, only cover 8 years. cost will be over 5k cad, hope my mechanic will get me a better price for the work.

@sanjaygandhi7962

Жыл бұрын

@@aaronsong3668 will they also include serpentine belt, timing belt, and water pump change for the cost of parts?

@aaronsong3668

Жыл бұрын

@@sanjaygandhi7962 no, they will charge extra for extra parts, the labour however, could be included. That really depends on the dealer you asked

@flacko001

Жыл бұрын

​@Aaron Song hey any update I'm also in the toronto area

Looks like you do about 20 of these jobs every day for many yrs💪🏾

Great video and excellent work! I have a 2004 Acura TSX with the the 2.2L 4 cylinder. It is burning about a quart of oil every 600 miles. Is it likely the same issue with carbon buildup on the oil ring? Is it necessary to hone the cylinders when you replace the pistons/rings and how do you tell if you need to?

@TeroYyy

Жыл бұрын

You should hone the cylinders if you can see or feel scratches on the walls.

great job thanks for the video. how many miles were on this car before service. was it caused by neglect of oil changes or wrong type of oil used. were these upgraded pistons and rings or will this tend to happen again over time?? conventional oil or full synthetic preferred. no measuring of the bores or ring gaps in cylinders taken. thanks

Great Video man. I started replacing the piston and rings on a2012 MDX a week ago and the valve surfaces are full of hardened carbon deposits. Did you do a valve job before installing the heads back . Please let me know before I send it to the shop. Thanks

Sir i think you should try and fix a TL i will go ahead and give you my car to work on it you are a master on doing it

@47ALTAIR47

2 жыл бұрын

This problem is solved with DMSO and there is no need to change or disassemble anything.

I have the same problem 2012 Honda pilot same engine its the vcm thats causing the the high oil consumption

Hi there, it's so hard finding a car these days that do not burn oil and have major issues. I was wondering do you have any recommendations between 2010-2015? Was also looking at 2015 crv but then i've seen cooling and oil burning issues not sure how common, i like mdx but just stubbled on this vid and seen it burns oil, any thoughts thanks

Do all 2nd gen tl AWD with the j37 have oil consumption?

@NSXavier997

27 күн бұрын

Yes they all will develop some form of oil consumption over time / operating hours.

@ld3rp

27 күн бұрын

@@NSXavier997 Well that sucks. I own a 2013 to with 53 thousands miles on it. Maybe I should trade it in.

I’m curious to know what’s the cost of a job like this. We can discuss offline.

@NSXavier997

2 жыл бұрын

Sure. Connect with me via PM on Rennlist, MDXers.org, or AcuraZine @NSXavier

I have this issue on my 2013 TL. However, my cylinder walls are also scarred. Is this repair possible with scarred cylinders? What additional work is needed for this?

2004 acura tl 3.2 got a quick question what if u forgot to put the engine on tdc and u thake out the cylinder heads off..my question is do u put the bottom block on tdc first after that I should put each cylinder head individually on tdc i just dont want them to do compression the wrong way

please turn off the noise a little bit???, you did awesome work. just a Q, how much will it cost for parts and work to rebuild an engine like what you did here?? thanks

Any way to avoid this afterwards, besides driving gently? Like an additive, or specific oil?

Where are you located? Please send me a DM if you still do this. I need this done on my mdx 2011. Please include price. My cylinder 3 has no compression. Im suspecting bad valve or issue with piston rings.

Did you reuse the same head bolts? I’m in the process of doing mine right now also I’m in the dmv area. I broke of the oil squirter do you know if you guys have this part in stock?

Where are you located at my buddy has Acura TL with the 3.7 liter that burns oil

what would the final result be if this was not done? My 2012 mdx is using oil. what can I expect?

@NSXavier997

6 ай бұрын

Oil consumption will continue. Eventually the excessive carbon build up will become severe enough to increase static compression ratio. This will result in very poor fuel economy and the engine exhibiting engine ping under load. Once the oil control rings completely seize, then the risk of cylinder bore scoring becomes an issue. When that happens then the cylinder(s) will be permanently damaged, and will cause a loss of compression & misfire. At that point it is too late and the short block will need to be replaced.

@MrWhylie

6 ай бұрын

@@NSXavier997 thanks, you're tha man.

Do the pistons have a lock like mopeds ifso what is the easiest way to remove them??thanxx

OLÁ NS 13/08/24 Em temperatura normal de montagem não deveria ser necessário Roberto Udo Krapf

@robertoudokrapf453

Күн бұрын

necessário aquecer os cubos de pistões.

great video, i would like to ask how much did this gentleman or lady pay for pistons and oil ring service, looking to do it to my v6 accord.

Very nice and helpful. Thank you

Do you now use Mobil 1 5w30? Did you also change the serpentine belt, timing belt, and water pump?

My MDX has a problem with low compression in one cylinder. Is it possible the issue is not with the bottom-end, but with a valve in the head? Will I be able to tell once I get the head off? Thanks in advance!

Did you use the existing head bolts? Or new ones? What did you lube the threads with before installing and torqueing them?

@MarkyDGFX

3 жыл бұрын

You can reuse head bolts if they're still in spec (most of the time they are) and I add a light coat of clean engine oil or ARP assembly lube.

Burning 1 quart of 5w20/2200 miles in my 2013 TL SH-AWD 3.7 L 6 speed manual. Love the car , it has 156,000 miles on it now. Hope to keep it for many more years but wondering if there is anything I can do to prevent the oil consumption from getting worse. Besides not using vtec which is just not possible!

@flacko001

Жыл бұрын

Any update ?

Wondering if I need to do this on 2014 CR-V. Curious if the piston and rings are replaced with something that is improved and will not repeat problem down the line.

@jptrainor

Жыл бұрын

Good oil, changed on time, will reduce the likelyhood of recurrence. I don't think it's something that can be eliminated totally in any engine. These engines have a lot of miles on them before they reach this point.

Is it only the J37 motors that burn oil or the J35 as well? Are the auto more prone to burn oil than the manuals hope my 9g 6-6 accord doesn't get there anytime soon at 97k now no sign of it yet

The owner should be using Mobil 1 Extended Performance oil. It protects your engine from this kind of wear. It's good for up to 15K miles, you change out at 5K miles at the most, and you have a happy and healthy motor.

This "fix" will help with oil consumption for a short while at best. The reason for most cases of excessive oil consumption is in the engine design. The cylinder walls are coated with Nikasil instead of iron sleeves. Nikasil (Nickel Silicon Carbide) is much harder than steel. It was popular for a while among "leading, innovative, performance-oriented" car manufacturers. And Acura blindly followed the lead. Once a thin Nikasil layer wears off ( and sooner or later it does) and exposes bare soft aluminum below, no pistons or rings will help you. These engines, therefore, are not rebuildable. You need a brand new block. And that's what Acura reluctantly did for some customers. Soon enough, reports of engines burning oil after block replacement appeared. Failing to admit a big blunder in designing these engines, Acura insisted for a long time that consumption of 1 qt of oil per 1000 miles is acceptable and even expected. Of course, they stopped making J37A engines. Lawers did what they do and Acura avoided a massive buyback of their luxury oil burners by settling a class action suit. What a treachery. P.S. Good luck finding a new J37A block. Ain't nobody got one.

@NSXavier997

3 жыл бұрын

🥱 Circa 2009: EPA: we demand better fuel economy Honda: Ok, we’ll try and squeeze out everything we can by designing this J37 the way we did. The draw back will be premature wear due to low friction rings and cylinder liners. 7 years later engines are burning oil and customers are crying, and Honda was just trying something new to meet the EPA requirements. More examples of this can be found with DFI. You ever look at the back of the intake valves on a DFI engine? EPA demanded better fuel economy; automotive manufactures try things out. Honda R&D’s things a certain way for a reason.. and it’s not to make things fail at a certain time so people have to buy a new car. You think their goal was to get a class action lawsuit? An automotive manufacturers main goal is customer retention, and the last thing they would want to do is produce a bad product. Think what you will of this “fix”, but the fact of the matter is that Honda released the piston and ring warranty extension to appease their customers over an issue that can be traced back to the ridiculous requirements the EPA had at the time. These cars have been in service since 2010 and 100’s of thousands of miles. Things don’t last forever. But J series engines have been around since the late 80’s. Blindly followed the lead… gtfo

@mixasp70

3 жыл бұрын

Great video no doubt. All I was trying to say that piston replacement is not the solution. The motor will still be burning oil in a few thousand miles

@47ALTAIR47

2 жыл бұрын

@@mixasp70 i have 2009 TL 3.7 180k miles, oil consumption is 0 and there is no problem because I change oil every 5k miles or 30-40% oil life whichever comes faster.

@COZNA

Жыл бұрын

@@NSXavier997 how long would you expect this fix to last? Is the cylinder wall problem that was mentioned a real problem that would negate the benefit of this fix? I know nothing lasts forever, but if I burning 2 quarts between intervals at 106k miles, could I expect to get another 100k miles before I'm in the same place?

@Fred-F4

Жыл бұрын

Best comment ever!! ❤

Awesome job!

Did you replace with the exact same piston and rings with the same tolerances? What’s to stop it from happening again? My son’s car is in the same situation but the extended service warranty is no longer in effect. I’m looking to do what I can to mitigate the issue.

@NSXavier997

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I did per the repair procedure published by American Honda. To settle the class action lawsuit, American Honda’s objective was to issue the recall warranty extension which when performed, immediately remedies the problem of excessive oil consumption. It was never designed or meant to permanently fix it. So yes, assuming the vehicle is used in the same manner and the composition of fuel and oil being used remains the same, the problem will likely manifest again. I have done away with the maintenance minder system on my own personal 2013 MDX and have moved to a “50% oil change interval” and only use top tier 93 octane fuels. This my attempt of extending the life of the new components I installed on it when I did the recall. Please reach out to me if you’re interested in sending your sons car to me for this work to be done. I have recently begun taking these jobs in to breathe new life into oil burners. @NSXavier on Instagram, Rennlist, 6speedonline. PrecisionCraftedMaintenance@gmail.com

You failed to see the huge wear mark on the first cylinder (top left in view). You didn't hone the bores either. This will have fixed the aforementioned problem because without this, that cylinder WILL burn oil. It has a deep wear mark in it where oil will bypass the rings and be burned.

@NSXavier997

6 ай бұрын

Show me on the Technical Service Bulletin that’s published by American Honda where it says to hone the cylinder bores. This is a warranty repair. You have to follow the procedure the way it’s written or risk warranty debit after the fact.

So what did cost to get that done? $100 per/hr @ 5hrs $250 pistons/rings/rod bearing $50 oil/filter $30 coolant $20 steering fluid $850 total overhaul Because I would take my car to you right now for that price. So what did you actually charge the customer?

You don’t have to ridge the cylinder ends? Or hone the walls?

I have a 2010 Honda Accord. My spark plugs keeps going bad. I do believe I need the same work done.. O rings and piston fix. Just not sure if it’s worth it. Thinking of just buying a new car. Have about 170K miles on it. I know if I get it fix it will go much longer. Don’t know at this point!!

@karlanevermind2554

3 жыл бұрын

I’m in the same boat fix ot get new car

What did it cost to replace the piston rings..i believe i need it done to my 14 honda v6 …blow by lott oil going into intake second engine in car too

Have you got an idea on what would happen if the excessive oil consumption was just dealt with by continuing to monitor oil levels and topping up as required. Would it get worse over time or lead to engine failure? Or would it settle to a baseline rate and continue to work?

@NSXavier997

2 жыл бұрын

If the rings are seized to the piston the way they are in many of these engines with excessive carbon build up, they will not have the ability to rotate freely around the piston. In this scenario, over time, the cylinder bores will become damaged and that will lead to low compression, and thus, poor engine performance and ultimately engine failure.

@JohnFrumFromAmerica

2 жыл бұрын

@@NSXavier997 makes sense thanks. Super annoying every thing else about the car seams great.

Is this a recall repair? I got a notice about an oil consumption issue.

I have a 2014 Acura TL 3.7 and i’m also having this problem but I’m still covered under warranty. after the fix will the problem come back, I only have 82k miles on it. i’m thinking about selling the car.

@47ALTAIR47

2 жыл бұрын

The problem is that after replacing the pistons, you need to change the oil on 30-40%oil life . And there will be no consumption.

i am finding minor scoring on the piston and cylinder should the cylinders be honed?

Do you do this as side work? I have a 2010 Accord