Acura Battery Draw? CHECK THIS FIRST!
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This 2009 Acura MDX has eaten three batteries within the last year, and the owner has to keep it on a trickle charger.
It's his wife's car, so he wants it fixed right!
Let's shortcut the diagnosis to 100% verify a common cause of battery parasitic draws on late Acura vehicles.
Can we fix it in the driveway with NO PARTS REQUIRED?
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Enjoy!
Ivan
Пікірлер: 214
"That didn't happen until you touched my car!". Probably not the case here, but you have to love those.
@InsideOfMyOwnMind
3 жыл бұрын
Eversinceyou
Fastest on the draw. I blinked and it was fixed! Nice going Ivan.
@HouseCallAutoRepair
3 жыл бұрын
So true! I had to re-watch because it was over before I would have had the fuse box cover off!
At least you didn't have to contort yourself into a pretzel to get to the Module Ivan!! Great job!!!
No bonus footage... very rare Ivan!!
Voltage drop across each mini fuse works. Mini fuse has a chart for each fuse size. Excellent work Thanks
Knowledge is a valuable commodity when you have seen it before, in some newer Volvo's disconnecting the battery with out the modules at sleep leads to big problems. Great video
Nice helpful video that save folks a lot of money in unnecessary batterie replacements and they ain't cheap!
I used To own that small pocket meter , got me out of bind many times , thanks for your videos Ivan take care
Nice! Ivan very quick and thorough!
Amazing, quick, short & clean job
Looks like snow in the background - t-shirt weather? Like in Siberia? 😉
Great job Ivan. Nice easy diag.
Now, boys and girls; that's what you call Acura-cy!!!
Thanks for sharing Ivan. 👍
Thank you for your easy to follow instructions and demonstration!! I replaced the battery less than a year ago and my car kept having a dead battery. Checked the battery and alternator at both O'Reilly and AutoZone and they tested fine. After checking with the multimeter I was able to trace the power draw back to the handsfree system just like you suggested. Since unplugging it my car battery has been holding a charge for 2 months. Appreciate your help 🙂
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Nice job!
Nice pattern failure fix. Thanks Ivan!
Excellent job Ivan.
Nice surroundings you have there, Ivan.
i love that trick with the door button, i learned something new today, thanks!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
3 жыл бұрын
That was improvised on the spot lol
@bryanreid3130
19 күн бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnosticsjust came across this video. As a southern boy, I’d like to give you honorary redneck status for that 😂
Thanks for the upload
your awesome good value to your videos . i have owned 2 acuras and both with electrical problems . i like how you take your vids step by step .
Great baseline technique with voltage drop across the fuses excellent diag always start with the most common problems
@ReubenHorner
3 жыл бұрын
I've never thought of that one before. Excellent method
@throttlebottle5906
3 жыл бұрын
fuses are resistive elements, which are meant to open upon over-current by burning the lower temperature meting point metals, before wiring and maybe devices go fully up in smoke. none are exactly perfect and the reading could vary some from fuse to fuse, so don't expect "ohms law/electrical pie chart and calculations to be exact or anywhere near. but yes it does aim you at what circuits are drawing current rather quickly :)
Wow, that DM78 DVM must be almost 30 years old, great little meters I used one of these for work back in the 1980's and -90's!
Would've been nice to see how you set up your meeter to your battery also the one you used to test the fuses. For us diy guys
Thank you for the video. My battery was having issues starting my acura rl, and then it died. My new battery seemed to work great for a few weeks, and then started to seem like it was barely turning the engine over upon starting it. (I noticed it would seem to have this issue starting in the mornings) I saw this video and removed the Bluetooth unit first, and now my acura now fires up great each time. (My hands free bluetooth unit was located in the front passenger side kick panel just on the right side of the legs under the glove box.)
This information is gold thank you
Nice one ivan! So simple checks and finding the root cause! Im sad of no bonus footage!! Awww lol
Ivan radiates a common sense, that only exists with a deep understanding of the subject, and the use if the appropriate tools. Once you know both aspects well enough, "picking up on the scent" becomes a natural reaction.
@ReubenHorner
3 жыл бұрын
You can definitely tell these things when your in the know. Most people would fire the parts cannon without being able to figure it out
The HFM drawing current while idle seems to be an epidemic among many manufacturers. Seen Hyundai, Mitsubishi, and Chrysler doing it too.
Saw this coming when it was only a 5 minute video lol
My girlfriend's 2005 Acura MDX had the exact same problem. A little internet research led to the hands free unit being a likely suspect. I don't have electrical diagnosis equipment so I did a brute force diagnosis; I unplugged the module and viola, no more draw.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
3 жыл бұрын
How did you know there was no more draw? Have to measure it somehow...
@jeffberg8015
3 жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics The battery stopped dying so I figured that was sufficient evidence. Obviously if I were doing this as a business I'd need to verify it more thoroughly, but unplugging the module accomplished all I needed it to.
GOOD JOB ACE!
That was a pretty straightforward and easy one. But I have been involved with some crazy ones. When I hear parasitic draw on a 2010 or newer model I don't like it
Thanks for your tutorial!!
Thanks Ivan yes you are a true star I am just your under study thanks for the simple diag
Great video! Thanks
Thanks for sharing!
My friend has a current draw. I pulled that BT but no amp drop. I unplugged the alternator, nothing. I suspect the starter. Thanks for posting.
After reading on line, disconnected the HFL. New battery unrelated. Hopefully solved. Good post.
Say Whaaaaaaat!!! Where’s the bonus footage!!! 😭😭
T shirt weather less than 20C? In the land down under, T shirt weather is say around 30C. Getting hot is 35C. Really hot Summer day 40C.
Don't you just love these ? Well done sir 👏
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
3 жыл бұрын
Haha Keith for once it was a predictable pattern failure :))
@HouseCallAutoRepair
3 жыл бұрын
I love learning new tricks with my pliers! (door switch)
@engeneer_ru5827
3 жыл бұрын
Keith, what a pity we don't see your videos ...
@NewLevelAuto
3 жыл бұрын
@@engeneer_ru5827 One day again soon !
@engeneer_ru5827
3 жыл бұрын
@@NewLevelAuto I'm waiting with interest!
0:48 right on, he bought an East Penn battery. I have one that I bought in 2009 and it is still good according to my battery test.
Ivan, great short video. How about a work around? Switch on dash connected to fuse? Thanks....Jim
Add a relay that powers the unit when key is inserted .
@SerenoOunce
3 жыл бұрын
Comes down to whether the customer wants to pay for that 'fix' and if they even care about the HFL to begin with. And should the owner want to replace the module later that wiring would need to be undone again.
@throttlebottle5906
3 жыл бұрын
bluetooth is and was always a sad joke, followed by wifi and all preceded by cellular/smartphones. as a user of said junk I have plenty of rights to claim so ;)
@setevcorker9104
3 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea!
I had the same issue on a 2007 Honda civic here in the UK. I also noticed it stayed warm to the touch which was another observation when I tracked it down! I did the same thing and left it unplugged as it was never used anyway.
@malcolmy11
3 жыл бұрын
What causes the issue in the unit? Can it be fixed?
@Blazer02LS
3 жыл бұрын
@@malcolmy11 Internal failure of a power switching transistor. It could be repaired but the ones I have looked at were potted so it wouldn't be an easy thing.
Thanks 🙏 a million you’re dope!! Where is the Bluetooth hands free fuse would be on 2010 TSX
Informative video...
My hero!!! Saved me HUNDREDS!!!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
Жыл бұрын
😎👍
I love parasites draw! Finding draw is very fascinating.
@Everyday_Richard
3 жыл бұрын
You may want to check with a doctor! Parasites can be deadly 😄
@TheCrazy243
3 жыл бұрын
@@Everyday_Richard 🤣🤣
Dang..saw the new multimeter....but wait..the old sears craftsmen is still going strong! 😆👍
Great video, so would I need two multimeters to pull this test off?
Cool I had a similar issue in a Honda Odyssey. 70ma drain on the radio Turns out a aftermarket kit was installed in back of the radio causing drain 50ma. Uninstalled it and it was down to 20 ma which is acceptable ( anything < 50 ma when everything is off )
Super awesome video. How did you measure the voltage (assuming it is voltage) from the inside? Did you put black on ground and touch the red on the fuse contact point?
@joehead1294
Жыл бұрын
Voltage drop across the fuse... If the fuse is not carrying current it will measure 0,00v, just like if you short the test leads together.
thank you
Hi. So I disconnected the negative battery post and the negative cable. Now, when i touch one electrode of my multimeter to the negative battery post and one electrode of my multimeter to the negative cable the reading it shows me is O.04 A. Is this ok? Or is it a parastic draw? Because whenever i check my battery voltage in the mornings it shows me 11.94 V.
I think I might of miss it. Did the module work but fail to go to sleep? Is there an outside module that puts it to sleep?
Now I have to find that in my Acura TSX. I've been noticing the battery is low after sitting a week.I've never used that feature anyway.
Does the Bluetooth system get stuck in pairing mode? One of those things when the car has too many options it causes problems.
Got used to the bonus footage...😎
My father's 2008 Acura TL hands free Bluetooth module was getting hot and read online on Acura TL forum that other people had the same problems and it was also draining the battery. What I did, was just completely remove the hands free Bluetooth module and it no longer gets hot and battery voltage no longer getting low, common problem for it to happen and heard they had a recall on them but they stop doing them already.
@danrook5757
Жыл бұрын
Į have same year car, I may have same problem
Thxs
The shirts will be coming off before you know it! 😂
I just got a 2007 MDX which has a parasitic draw and I was hoping it would be this simple only to find that the Bluetooth module was already unplugged and removed. Are there any other common draws on this vehicle or do I need to do a full on test?
does the acura TL model have this same unit in the same area?
Do I get a prize for knowing the answer? 😜. Which I prob picked up previously from your channel anyways 🤣
Excellent diagnostics, using a professional workflow that respects your time. I wonder why they designed the hands-free remote to run off of unswitched power. It would seem a no-brainer, to power it from a source that is turned off when the key is removed. What am I missing?
@throttlebottle5906
3 жыл бұрын
likely intended on near future use of same module to link/sense phone for proximity control of vehicle ( auto unlock, keyless entry, keyless start/run, etc.) and then reality set in :))
@TheNYgolfer
6 ай бұрын
@spelunkerd The Hands Free Link system stores your contact list, text messages and internet searches. The kind of things law enforcement would desperately want access to, and has gained access to in many cases. So to do that the system has to be powered at all times because the safest way for them to retrieve that info is when the car is not occupied. Manufacturers of cars use your info and sell it to advertisers. That's why they are so eager to show you how to use the system when you buy a car.
Nice!
My 2018 TLX just began having this issue. Any information on a class action lawsuit? This is unacceptable since it’s a know problem and is potentially dangerous depending on the weather and location.
Sweet!
I have the same issues but it's a 2006 Acura MDX , u have any suggestions 😵?
Having an issue with my 2010 mdx. Unhooked the HFL and still a slow drain on the battery.
I wonder what’s wrong internally of that Bluetooth unit that causes the excessive current draw?
So close to 100 Ks!!!
It's always the hands free link that does the battery draw
You mentioned let’s pull that fuse with the voltage and see if that draw goes away. What situation would have to exist when pulling that fuse would cause the draw to not go away? Thanks
@Graham_Wideman
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the fuse is reading a significant voltage due to a flaw in the fuse, making it seem like its the culprit circuit when actually it's not.
I’ve already disconnected my hands free link on my 2005 TL but still find the battery around 12.3-12.4v in the morning. It is only a few months old. Cranking voltage is 10v. Fuse 6 measured .05 mV and fuse 7 .12 - .27 mV all the others see 0. Guessing fuse 7 has to do with the security light on the door. Any ideas?
@kwrzesien17
11 ай бұрын
I still have battery drain and replaced it two or three times, it’s a second car so figured I just wasn’t driving enough during Covid. HFL was already disconnected when I opened up the rear console cover. I think its the radio or GPS but have heard it could also be the HomeLink or CD Changer. Might need a second multimeter.
So to measure the fuses with the multimeter, your just touching it to the fuse. I couldnt see anything. Im so confused
Does the engine light come on after disconnecting?
I have a nice amp meter but im a little unsure how you hooked up your leads. Could you please update the connection process. Others seem to want this also. Thank you in advance
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
4 ай бұрын
In series from battery cable to battery post 👍
Awesome
So how did you fix it when you plugged the fuse back in, did you disconnect the Bluetooth module?
@Dirtyharry70585
3 жыл бұрын
@4:20
experience counts
My 2000 acura 3.5 RL has gone through 4 batteries in 14 months. I have taken it to 4 shops and all tell me nothing is wrong, replace battery. I don't know how to do what you did. Can you recommend a shop willing to view your video and help fix it?
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
3 ай бұрын
Hmm I have no idea where you're located 😅
Five minutes and thirty five seconds Ivan...you feelin alright? lol\
If the HFL still works but won't go to sleep you could add an inline fuse from an ign ON only power supply in the fuse box to kill total power when the key is off. This gives you back the HFL while running and keeps it fused.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
7 ай бұрын
I wonder if it will lose the sync every time...
@my-max-media7621
6 ай бұрын
Same thing I was thinking.. but they've powered it for a reason. I own a 2015 RDX that I need to track down parasitic draw. Sure stinks in winter when can't start the car. @@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
Nice! Peace
Who was running the hammer drill in the background?🤔
Do these handsfreelink units go bad very often? Honda seems to put them in everything.
@Blazer02LS
3 жыл бұрын
Yes they do. Very common to the point there was a class action lawsuit about them, because Honda has known the modules fail regularly and have since they started using them.
Does anyone actually fix whatever inside that module is causing it to stick on.
My 2013 RDX now has a parasitic draw :(.... but I can't find the location of the Bluetooth Module. Do you or anyone here can help with locating the Bluetooth Module?
Where is bluetooth module on 2020 acura ilx ?
Wait, so the repair is "do not use this feature"?
Like #60 Thanks for the video!
Do you prefer testing for parasitic draw with a meter in series or using an amp clamp?
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
3 жыл бұрын
In series for anything under 1 amp; clamps have too much drift.
@joehead1294
Жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I make a 10 loop multiplier for my amp clamp. You just move the decimal point, makes it more accurate.
Happy St Patrick's day, ☘ ☘ ☘.
💪💪💪
My question is: why is that unit powered when the ignition is off?
@Blazer02LS
3 жыл бұрын
It should draw a miniscule amount with the power off, fuse 5 is it's main power feed, there is also a control wire. An internal transistor fails and locks the unit on.
I disconnected the HFL on my 2006 TL and it seems I'm STILL getting a draw somewhere. I'll never buy another Acura.
Nice test not guess