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Written and Hosted by Ryan Arey ( / ryanarey )
Edited by Lee Mazzio
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Somehow, Episode 3 returned
@epsileth
24 күн бұрын
Somehow, the show got worse. 😂
@kikflipguy101
24 күн бұрын
Ok I like the show, but this comment got me 😂😂
@TK000Master
24 күн бұрын
felt like disney is doing this intentionaly now. Add something to the lore that doesnt make sense and retcon everything that comes afterwards half-hearted so that it makes somehow sense.
@Steveo0547
24 күн бұрын
Cope 😂😊
@Gawanji
24 күн бұрын
This episode is from another perspective, Sol’s perspective- not necessarily the Jedi - so like memories, some things are vague, missing, parodied - and wrong. So we might not find out what happened until all major characters have their viewpoint to have a voice -
I feel like Sol obsession's with having a padawan if it had been known from earlier in the season would have made the death of Jecki have a bigger impact.
@voiceinthenoise3357
24 күн бұрын
Exactly, we just needed more backstory to explain that Sol was restless and insecure about not yet having a padawan, and this desperation to prove himself or find meaning as a Jedi (his frustration with the Jedi council for not seeing him as worthy of being a master/having a padawan?) made him make brash choices and false assumptions that suited what he wanted. This would explain how he could have convinced himself, in the urgency and confusion, that the twins' needed protecting from their mother.
@ForestRaptor
23 күн бұрын
It makes me curious as to how Jecki became Sol's padawan.
@RC-qf3mp
23 күн бұрын
Sol is a groomer. Thanks Disney. 🌈 🦄
@Cp3786
23 күн бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣
@ForestRaptor
23 күн бұрын
@@RC-qf3mp I mean that's a fucking leap -_-
Saying that these witches are more interesting than the night sisters is one hell of a choice
Better NOT call Sol…
@blaze556922
23 күн бұрын
Sol is the most identifiable Jedi we've ever had on screen. Tf you on about? Lol
@Cp3786
23 күн бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣
padawan runs off to get the kids so he can go home, Sol yells at him to get him to stop, chases after him to STOP HIM, once he caught up, just helps him
@VictorSantos-jz2qm
24 күн бұрын
He reached out with his hand and saw Mae and Osha
@gowsa2233
24 күн бұрын
@@nathanmckee5006 and supposedly this is what drove him to 10 years of silence and suicide? Terrible writing
@snuffles504
24 күн бұрын
If you think for one second Sol got on that bike to STOP Torbin, you weren't paying attention. Indara should have gone after Torbin herself.
@RobertLopez-yf8zi
24 күн бұрын
SUPER convenient for Sol---"No...please, stop, don't make me go get my own padawan."
@iammrmanager
24 күн бұрын
They ended up breaking into people's home and murdered them. @@gowsa2233
These Disney+ episodes absolutely need to be a full hour long.
@captainplzanet1815
24 күн бұрын
The pacing is bad. It feels like nothing happens at all by the end of each episode and it makes for a tedious watch. Right when we feel like an answer is imminent, those 20min credits role.
@Cp3786
23 күн бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣
@kingmj87
23 күн бұрын
And air nightly. Cutting up a movie into parts like this works better when it’s nightly like old tv miniseries. The show should’ve aired over 2 weeks instead of 2 months
@elketerbentzadik
23 күн бұрын
@Cp3786 Says the person with no content on their channel, no avatar, and a random number username. Go back to the troll farm.
@elketerbentzadik
23 күн бұрын
@@kingmj87 Or just do the Netflix binge model.
I think you missed an important question. Where did Mother Koril go? I don't think she was with the witches who took over Kelnacca's mind.
@justwatchingdoom
23 күн бұрын
She is Qimir
@Cp3786
23 күн бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣
@mrwoo10
23 күн бұрын
Good point
@stillsixstudios
23 күн бұрын
Exactly! Was she permanently inside the Wookie & died with him years later? Or where did she go?
@tigerlancer
22 күн бұрын
Is it confirmed that the witches were 100% dark force users?
If house of dragon has comparable budget, someone is stealing from disney
@neeeeeeeek9
23 күн бұрын
or its a huge money laundering scheme 🤷♂️ i still cannot believe that these projects cost 100s of millions with such subpar results in quality
@JohnSmith-og1xq
23 күн бұрын
Money laundering
@Cp3786
23 күн бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣
@furious_wrath7079
20 күн бұрын
I thought the govt was bad with money but damn they might have a challenger with Disney lol.
"I sense that she is meant to be my padawan" was almost as bad as "somehow Palpatine returned"
I was stunned when Mother Anisaya turned into a murder cloud and then was killed....and the story frames it like Sol did the wrong thing. She immediately says something like "....I was going to give you everything you wanted" and it's like.....WHY DID YOU TURN INTO A DEATH CLOUD!?!?
@TheChosenOnesDad
24 күн бұрын
EXACTLY! She mind controlled Torbin for what ... "I can make it so you go home" dudes been there a few weeks lol
@stratotele12
24 күн бұрын
Yes, any rational person seeing a child getting vaporized without explanation would try to stop it. I can get being upset that you had to kill a mother in front of the child, but he seemed pretty justified in the moment!
@dandreray1602
24 күн бұрын
How was it a "murder cloud"? The witches the only ones that didn't actually hurt anyone. She did a Jedi mind trick. It's cool when they do it, right? We expect the witches to be bad and evil because this shows supposed to have darkside, Sith villains. But it's not giving us that on screen. We just filling all that in ourselves. The Jedi literally broke into their home three times to shy and then take the kids. We've only seen the witches defend themselves.
@kentracer4129
24 күн бұрын
Just terrible writing.
@kreiyu
24 күн бұрын
we don't know it was a death cloud, lol. it could have been a form of teleportation. we also saw mother koral do the same black cloud thing before the wookie got his mind raped. so maybe she was going to put everyone in an illusion to stop the fight, and sol reacted.
We need to know how Qimir met and lured Mae to be his pupil. Why do we see him seducing Osha before we know anything about him and Mae’s early relationship
@PenguinDust1969
24 күн бұрын
Are you saying we're in for another flashback next episode? Oh, joy. 😑
@MiningForPies
23 күн бұрын
“We” don’t “need” to know anything.
@Fedaygin
22 күн бұрын
Indeed Debra well said 🙂
@furious_wrath7079
20 күн бұрын
@@MiningForPieswhy not, like what happened to OSha during her training that needs to be explained somehow or delved into more
@MiningForPies
19 күн бұрын
@@furious_wrath7079 there’s a difference between want and need. We don’t need it. Personally, I don’t care.
The way Venestra talks to Sol = the way Anaseya talked to Torbin = Qimir talking to Osha = Palpatine talking to Anakin. Same seductive grooming-style of talking.
@izayus11
23 күн бұрын
I'd imagine Harvey Weinstein's assistant would know about grooming
@Cp3786
23 күн бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣
The Trek Stan in me had a great time with the opening to this episode... "Science officer Sol's log. We are collecting flora samples on Brendok, an uninhabited M class planet." It felt like such an odd thing to see Jedi doing.
@jasonmazzonello3708
24 күн бұрын
That's kind of what the Jedi did though, how do you think the Jedi archives were built
@aleczeck8971
24 күн бұрын
Most Jedi didn’t branch off to be Knights. The vast majority of the Jedi during this peaceful period were researchers.
@citizen_wayne
24 күн бұрын
They are trying to poach us Trekkies!
@paleogreg7427
24 күн бұрын
@@citizen_wayne The center of that Venn diagram was always huge
@citizen_wayne
24 күн бұрын
@@paleogreg7427 I totally agree. But most people have a favorite and there lies the nugget of truth in the conflict :P
I tune in every week to see how Ryan will explain how this show is good 😂😂
@tjbullis1491
24 күн бұрын
im at that same point lmao, i just wanna see the roundabout hilarious ways they try to trick themselves into thinking the show is good.
@intothefrayyo
24 күн бұрын
Ayoooooo 😂
@MattGOG666
24 күн бұрын
@@tjbullis1491you guys need to talk yourself down rabbit holes to justify why it's bad though.
@mm3587
24 күн бұрын
Exactly 😭. He’ll do anything to defend this show 😂. I literally check in to see how he can “defend” it this week 😆
@tjbullis1491
24 күн бұрын
@@MattGOG666 what are you talking about? what rabbit holes? i can give you 5+ reasons, literally direct examples of terrible writing in this show. tell my why its good? how about that lol, id love to see you try that.
I agree with them about the longer run time. We should have gotten more of Kelnacca and his obvious PTSD. Clearly being taken over by the witches left him seriously headf*cked.
I feel like the whole point of episode 7 was for both Osha and Mae to be told the truth simultaneously by Sol. Episode 6 ended with Osha putting on the Cortosis helmet which cuts off her senses save her connection to the Force; since she and Mae have an identical Force-print, she is witnessing Sol’s confession to Mae via their bond.
@Cp3786
23 күн бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣
@thekingcory
23 күн бұрын
@@Cp3786 Nah, perhaps just hoping there’s more method to the madness than may be obvious.
@Emzy23
23 күн бұрын
@@Cp3786you've made this same comment 3 times on this page. Sure you ain't the bot?
It doesn’t feel like it’s moving things forward . It feels like it’s over seasoning the broth. The writing is not convincing
@marcelopicheth6111
24 күн бұрын
Yeah, if the show had 24 episodes I could accept it like this, eight 30 minutes episodes are not enough for this pace.
@firstlast642
24 күн бұрын
Without a doubt it's bad writing which is a shame because the actors are doing their hardest to make it seem interesting.
@coreyschleder8418
24 күн бұрын
@marcelopicheth6111 even 8 - 12 one hour episodes would have helped so much. One for more room to breathe, but also the editing choices to end the episodes on hurt the show as well. Episode 3 should have been streamlined and blended into the first two as well. Good stuff there, but not enough to carry an ep by itself.
@Cp3786
23 күн бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣
I like this story a lot, but it feels like we have 5 more episodes to go rather than this being the penultimate episode.
@kovie9162
24 күн бұрын
You're referring to S2, which fan demand will force Disney to sign off on--just as Headland had foreseen...
@Cp3786
23 күн бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣
@Montzter57
23 күн бұрын
@@kovie9162fans? Ya the insane amount of fans this show has huh?
@Fedaygin
23 күн бұрын
@@Cp3786 Cut the spamming already. If you mean to hurt the content here on this nice video, it's not working 🙂 Enjoy streaming Beautiful The Acolyte S01 via D+ & good trip to Galaxy Far, Far Away while at it 🙂 I always do so with "65 4K Led Telly & 5.1. wireless headphones in a dark room 🙂
Maybe Sol was taken by the Jedi when he was young (say 4) and Qimir was his younger brother who was a baby later resented Sol leaving him and their family and though he also was strong in the Force, had a grudge against Sol for abandoning them and him not being allowed to join his brother. Leading him to seek the dark side of the Force. That's my thoughts about a week ahead of the finale!
I think the mother was gonna teleport away in a live version of teleport like we saw in the mountain clan on Dathomir in tales of the empire.
@cologist
24 күн бұрын
Too bad the technique temporarily makes her look like a terrifying mist demon. -_-
@ForestRaptor
24 күн бұрын
@@cologist Magiks are always freaky when you first see them
@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord
23 күн бұрын
Why weren't they explain these powers in episode 3? Theres no exuse for us to not know what's going on.
@ForestRaptor
23 күн бұрын
@@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord why would we. Episode 3 was all about Osha's point of view and how she remembers the events of that night.... that is the whole point.
@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord
23 күн бұрын
@@ForestRaptor why? Because they literally explained the thread we saw the training of the children we literally had the perfect time to explain these power. But they choose to show us force push and block things we seen a thousand times.
So did Indara kill everyone in the coven ripping their brains out of the wookie?
@trinity1762
24 күн бұрын
She remove them from the matrix
@davidchism6081
24 күн бұрын
Disengaged from the connection in such a way that their minds couldn't handle the sudden shock of removal. They definitely needed a land-line phone before Trinity removed their mental US-B from the Wookie Jedi.
@penpointred
24 күн бұрын
Either they died cause of the synaptic split or would be rad if they were trapped in the wool pie causing him to go crazy.
@J-Mittens
24 күн бұрын
More sloppy, easy-way-out storytelling. We just assume whatever she did kills them?
@Redjack10
24 күн бұрын
@@penpointredReading the words wool pie just made me throw up in my mouth.
You are clearly a shill. If you've been reviewing Star Wars there's no way you don't see how bad the writing is. It is Star Wars, and the standards are high. It is not a generic CW show. You are explaining things the writers never intended. The writers do not understand the lore and the fans have every right to call them out.
I enjoy the breakdown. Keep up the good work.
Dude, while HOTD may have a similar budget, the money is spent in very different ways. HOTD spends a lot on re-using dragon CGI effects. They are re-using the same sets for every episode. There isn’t a major budget expense for alien makeup, either. I think the comparison to HOTD or Dune is way off the mark.
Her: Turns into literal freaking black smoke Also her: I was gonna let her go with you 🙄
@ForestRaptor
24 күн бұрын
Hey, my black smoke is just a quick way to get my child who is in danger. Just because it's black and not sparkly pink, you assume I am evil?! :
@WallyAMV
24 күн бұрын
She was going to try and save Osha who was in imminent danger because of the fire.
@danielbadillo8334
24 күн бұрын
So why was Mae turning to smoke too? @@WallyAMV
@faitheffect254
24 күн бұрын
The safest thing during a fire is black smoke.
@yoyomayne
24 күн бұрын
Teleportation like Mother Talzin used to do, why would she leave and not take her daughter to safety when theyre gonna fight right there?@@danielbadillo8334
Ryan saying this show has good writing has me losing faith in this channel. “The ability to speak does not make you intelligent”
Nice having people on this time that actually watched the episodes!
If Qimir turns out to be a force projection of Sol. That makes all that sexual tension between OSHA and Qimir in that last episode have some super icky subtext.
@Optimus-Prime-Rib
24 күн бұрын
Wtf
@mxskmg4
24 күн бұрын
Force projections can’t interact with the real world from my understanding
Some ppl thought the flash as well written too. Ijs 😂😂😂
@seanwine1085
24 күн бұрын
An opinion, relax, would ya?
25:25 THIS is probably EXACTLY what 7 should have revealed. That in that moment that Sol chose Osha over Mae on that bridge/catwalk, Sol created Qimir and it was Qimir that saved Mae. Or even that the witches had somehow made that possible with their little group trance deal. The reason Qimir is as old as he indicates is because the witches did not die cause the wookie was broken free...but the wookie was broken free cause the witches completed their ritual of passing their spirits to create a new life...using Sol's inner turmoil as the catalyst. So combining all the lives of all the witches that passed their spirits to create Qimir would make him older than he appears. Making Qimir a mix of all those witches and Sol...which would explain why he is so powerful.
@TheSensationPR
24 күн бұрын
OMG, this made alot of sense.
@jedipsy
24 күн бұрын
This is such a stupid theory. It's just reaching to fill in the gaps of bad story telling. Big reveals gain their effectiveness from being supported by what we've already seen, even if we have the wrong idea initially. There is 0 of that in this show.
@russellwilliams1609
24 күн бұрын
It makes no sense, but neither does most of the writing on the show so head cannon it is.
@HanifBarnwell
24 күн бұрын
@@russellwilliams1609😂
@Doletrain
24 күн бұрын
How would Sol “make” Qimir by deciding he could only save one of the twins????
It's totally moving things forward finally, the amount of content in this show is very fascinating and is growing every episode
Ryan, I think you nailed it regarding the Chosen One.
He wasnt intending to reveal anything to mae other than to explain his actions as it was the first time theyd been face to face since that night
I actually thought this episode was too short. It feels like they have a lot to cover in a short amount of time.
@laraq07
24 күн бұрын
They wasted run time in previous episodes with utter dreck.
@Cp3786
23 күн бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣
Good writing? Character motivations change on a dime or are non existent. Then you have to ask why is mist form vulnerable to a lightsaber? Unless she chose to reform around a lightsaber killing herself as a martyr.
Turns into smoke monster, gets stabbed with lightsaber while in smoke form.
@puundit5339
24 күн бұрын
The only explanation I could think of was that it’s an illusion lol
@seanwine1085
24 күн бұрын
Or the transformation into smoke was incomplete when Sol stabbed her.
@EzekielGarf
23 күн бұрын
I wasn't aware all the rules of smoke form had been established in canon....
@Nathan-P-Moomaw
23 күн бұрын
@@EzekielGarf Haha, I know. I never stop being amused and befuddled by folks claiming expertise in knowing how the force works, especially when it's a use of the force we've never seen before.
Still…. So Many Unanswered Questions
@blaze556922
23 күн бұрын
Good
@Cp3786
23 күн бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣
Ryan just said the the writing was the best lmaoooo
@ommypr1
24 күн бұрын
I like this channel inside look into things, but damn when I hear isht like that it makes me loose respect on their opinion of things!!
@Kactusdog
19 күн бұрын
I can't watch this channel anymore, used to be my top youtube channel. Something is not right here. Feels like mental gymnastics.
THANKS for this, @ScreenCrush Gang!!!! I guess I'll watch the last episode.....
The other thing I think might be happening is that (unless we're going to get a two hour run time) the season finale is going to resolve some things, but not others. It's as though Headland anticipates a second season that, based on the overall audience response, isn't going to happen.
I honestly don’t even think Torbin’s motivation is written well either. He says he misses Coruscant, but why? 7 weeks seems like a short stint on a planet for a Jedi. Is this his first mission away from Coruscant, and he’s homesick? Does he miss the temple? Does he miss his Friends? They don’t explain why he wants to go back really and without context as to why he misses Coruscant, he just seems like a whiney spoiled padawan.
@jbuster9
24 күн бұрын
Agreed
@FromTrash2Treasure
24 күн бұрын
Yup 😔
@hypatrone6789
24 күн бұрын
Tbf as far as he knew this was a planet without any living beings. Staying 2 weeks would drive most people crazy. 42 days of cataloguing grass samples does not sound appealing
@snuffles504
24 күн бұрын
@@stephenthomas2733 he's a teenager who was forcibly removed from his home, friends, and routine to go camp on an uninhabited PLANET for two months taking endless grass samples for, ostensibly, no reason in particular. He was promised purpose and adventure with the life of a Jedi. I'd be freaking bored and homesick, in his situation, too.
@themarathongamer7635
24 күн бұрын
Agreed. Not to mention, every so called "Jedi Master" in this show acts like a teenager with just as much emotion control and "changed attitudes on a dime" mentality. The Jedi in this show aren't evil. They're just DUMB.
That ability, the black smoke monster lol, I think that’ll be how mae and osha become one again. I still don’t understand why as children they’re non identical, but identical as adults lol. Still something that stands out to me lol
@EzekielGarf
23 күн бұрын
I don't think there's supposed to be an in universe reason for this, simply that they couldn't find a pair of child actor twins they liked so went for the next best actors who looked similar. I think we can all surely suspend our belief for a short time, knowing they're supposed to be identical. Maybe Osha ate more Spice Cream in her youth and this diet of hers altered her face. Only in adolescence did she curb her high spice caloric intake and her face fell in line with that of her sister. (I'm kidding of course) But yeah, casting....
@NionAeon
23 күн бұрын
@@EzekielGarf yeah, just hard for me to ignore for some reason lol it was one of the things that added to my early theories of adult Mae not actually being real lol It reminds me of when a black guy and white woman have a child on a show, and that child has no sign of being biracial/mixed 😅 like to me, their facial structure is soooo non identical, the only thing that makes them look like twins is the choice to give them the same hair lol. But anyway, it’s not a big deal.. just feels like a choice that is being “these aren’t the droids” wiped away 😂 There’s so much more problems, that this nitpick shouldn’t be taken seriously in all honesty.
@EzekielGarf
23 күн бұрын
@@NionAeon yeah I get you and that's fair. To be honest, at first I was the same and it takes you out of the scene but then yeah, I was just like oh well, couldn't get real life twin actors I guess...
@NionAeon
23 күн бұрын
@@EzekielGarf yeah I did as well, the young actors themselves are doing fine, just didn’t understand why they didn’t do the same thing they’re doing with the Osha/Mae actor lol. Oh well
@Cp3786
23 күн бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣
Mother Koril is probably the one that saved Mae on the bridge. Koril must have been the force that was pulling Mae away from Sol's force grip.That is why it felt so difficult for him to save both. His main focus was not trying to hold up both sides of the bridge. Koril naturally was trying to pull Mae to herself cuz they are both the "dark" forces in their respective pairings (Aniseya/Osha: light, Koril/Mae: dark), and Sol could feel less resistance with Osha so he saved the twin that he knew he could definitely save and wanted to be his padawan. Maybe Qimir, being a lost Jedi at the time of the Brendok incident, was attracted to the planet for the same reason the Jedi were cataloguing it. He incorporated part of Koril and Aniseya's forces into him when they parished which is why he has the connection to the twins and knew about their dyad. Koril and Aniseya's forces probably live on through Qimir who is using their dyad strength for his own purposes. Come on, let's see it! P.S. Once Aniseya and Koril decide to go into a disintegrated form, they are essentially "sacrificing" themselves for that power and can no longer return to their previous physical body.
Loving all your break downs on this show
Mae didn’t start the fire! It was always burning! Since the world was turning!
I really like Heather’s analysis . Mystery box storytelling is hindering the story
@jfray7620
23 күн бұрын
It’s a “mystery” that’s completely uninteresting and lacks mystery entirely
@Cp3786
23 күн бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣
I found it pretty cool that it took that many Force witches to possess and control a wookie Jedi master and then another Jedi master flushes them out thus killing them with the feedback. Really spoke to the mental power involved.
I’m still wondering what torbin did that when Mae showed up with poison, he happily downed it. Sure he was the reason they went back to the temple, but literally EVERYTHING that happened after they showed up was easily avoidable.
Ok so the jedi go to ask questions about force sensitive children, like they tend to do... And as soon as they are inside, a witch mind controls torbin.... but we dont know who to blame.... lol
@camandsamandjen
24 күн бұрын
Seriously. This continued sh*tting on the Jedi is dumb. Hate writing that assumes there are no heroes.
I was one of the defendants of this show but yeah this episode was not good for me, i thought every character needs and desires were easy and dum, Torbin was with them for only a week and was already missing the temple… pls… the only character who made sense was Carie Ann moss character
@rickjasper96
24 күн бұрын
7 weeks but yh I agree
Me, personally, I think Ryan has fully morphed into a Nerd Crew parody of himself. VERY cool that he already resembles Jay. VERY cool.
@Cp3786
23 күн бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣
@NionAeon
23 күн бұрын
@@Cp3786 oh this is actually a bot calling everyone bots.. that’s some inception level shit 😂 followed it here from a comment on my post, that wasn’t even defending the show..
That planet definitely has a connection to the twins! The planet reminds me of the Genesis planet.
I can't believe Ryan thinks this show has good writing.... It consistently made the most baffling creative decisions at every turn
@tjbullis1491
24 күн бұрын
his opinion has completely lost any weight for me because of this show i dont trust their breakdowns anymore either...
@kings5223
24 күн бұрын
Same. The writing and depth is on par with a CW show.
@ChrisMcCarroll
24 күн бұрын
@@tjbullis1491 so Ryan is not allowed to have his own opinion. He has to have the same opinion as you or he is wrong.What are you, a Jedi?
@marc-w-dot-com
24 күн бұрын
Look at the guests, they will NOT come on the show should honesty or sanity prevail - the house of mouse will nix their access. This is a minority channel gaslighting us on this junk.
@chaynehampton5335
24 күн бұрын
They paid em to say it
So the witches coven are actually Death Eaters?
I have a theory that Aniseya was going to possess everybody when she was turning into black smoke to stop the fighting but Sol miss read what she was doing. And then Koril did the same smoke possession to a Qimir
Dud, what do you smoke??????? That must be good!!!!!😂😂
I dont understand the issue people have with how some of fight scenes in episode 5 were shot. I'm sure it was intentionally shot like that. First of all, the fight is sort of being shown from Oshas perspective (sort of!) and so we're not going to see every angle and the perfect shots. We're going to see it through the trees and trying to make out whats going on like Osha would be. And trying to make out whats going on, for me personally, was intriguing. It added this mystery to The Stranger. We don't fully understand at that point who this character is, and we dont fully understand his fighting. I dont know if that makes sense, but i just don't think it was bad because we couldnt make everything out.
@Nathan-P-Moomaw
21 күн бұрын
Yes, totally agree. I like all the ways this show is shot, and I'm pretty sure its intentional, and not, as the hosts seem to imply, the result of one film unit being better than the other. It all looks coherent and deliberate to me.
Qimir says "Don't you recognize me?" While still wearing the helmet, so he couldnt mean the apothecary shop.
@Cp3786
23 күн бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣
@EJ_Crough
22 күн бұрын
@@matthemming9105 at this point I really think that’s all he meant… this show is very surface level when it comes to its writing and dialogue
I think that Osha is seeing all of this with Qimir’s helmet on while Sol is telling it to Mae at the same time
Cal Kestis IS the balance in the Force
Indara potentially lied to Sol about the councils decision to not move forward with the twins. She was ready to go alongside torbin
@MarcAyouni
24 күн бұрын
Interesting, because it goes along the lines of this show where : everybody is guilty of something, no one is perfect.
@aaronjones4465
24 күн бұрын
Potentially? Why don’t we know. We watched the show why are we thinking of things as “maybes, or what does that means”
@fmaries7000
24 күн бұрын
NOT!
@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord
23 күн бұрын
Stop bro this is episode 7 and the episode we were supposed to get answers. Theres is no more exuses like "maybe"
@Cp3786
23 күн бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣
I've seen a lot of people complaining that episode 7 was character assassination of the Sol we've come to know. But this older, wiser person was the result of his past. If they had revealed his past to the audience it wouldn't have felt so shocking to see him behaving like he did. Plus we, the audience, would have had the whole season to watch him struggling against some of those old demons: of letting his emotions take over, of needing to save people, of being impulsive. Plus it would mean so much more to us when he learns that Mae lives. I think they sacrificed a much better story for the sake of having a mystery box.
@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord
23 күн бұрын
Are you forgetting the fact hes still acting weird teing up Osha and getting all in her face. Plus acting weird towards children was pretty much the only way for me to dislike Sol and that's what he did. Sorry theres no coming back from that in most people's eyes.
@blaze556922
23 күн бұрын
You're clearly more intelligent than the people complaining about this show
@blaze556922
23 күн бұрын
@@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylordhe is behaving the way a human being should. He is better than the Jedi order. That is the story
@Fedaygin
23 күн бұрын
@@blaze556922 El Touche well said 🙂
@Cp3786
23 күн бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣
I am hoping we open the last episode with Osha taking the helmet off and having seen Sol´s explanation
I feel like the final must present a third view (Sith). It must explain how Mae end up as an acolyte. Also a cliffhanger is needed.
Wait what? More interesting than the Nightsisters in Ahsoka? Did we watch the same show?
@seanwine1085
24 күн бұрын
Nightsisters were mere window dressing. Morgan was the star.
@mass612
23 күн бұрын
People are trying their best to praise acolyte
@itsishbish2689
22 күн бұрын
Nightsisters in Ahsoka had zero exploration. We saw Morgan do cool things, but the Nightsisters were barely there to do anything, there was nothing to leave you thinking it was a real culture. Here the witches are an actual community.
It’s not that deep bro and you know it. When you try to polish a turd, all you do is make yourself shitty
“It looks like a TV show” Man am I about to blow your mind…
@alexandrasylvan
20 күн бұрын
Right 😂😂 I'm revealing myself as an 80s kid but I vastly prefer when things look like really cool sets, it instantly brings back memories of awesome sword + sorcery epics from the 80s, like Legend, Krull, Conan. I LOVE the look in the Acolyte and it absolutely does not look cheap but they DO look like sets... that have been worked on for a very long amount of time!
Darth Teeth 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I love this series lmaoo
She’s not using The Force nor we are “visualizing” a Jedi mind trick. She is a witch. She’s using dark magic to posses his mind.
@jedipsy
24 күн бұрын
He calls in a JMT in the first part of the video then contradicts himself later on by calling it possession. Dude is reaching further than Mr Fantastic checking the mailbox while he's in the shower 😂
@puundit5339
24 күн бұрын
I don’t mean to be rude, but “dark magik(magick?)” is the force
@TheSnyderman25
24 күн бұрын
@@puundit5339sure they both use the force on “thread” to use their power but I agree with OP this is not a mind trick, this is a straight up domination, their eyes turn black, etc. Jedi mind trick has never been shown to incapacitate people
@xtrafunk
24 күн бұрын
yeah they're out to lunch on this one. this is closer to mind control than a mind trick. they're clearly not the same, or osha / yord's dialogue in ep 5 makes no sense. "my mother could do that" -> is a nonsense thing to say if literally every jedi can also do it.
@Nathan-P-Moomaw
21 күн бұрын
@@xtrafunk I think the term is being applied more generally to mean any use of the force that messes with someone else's mind/will. Aniseya is clearly using a force technique very different in nature from the old familiar Jedi mind trick, but it makes sense to put them in a similar category of "mind tricks." The effect is all happening inside the victims mind, i.e no external witnesses can observe it. Obi wan's manipulation of the storm trooper could also reasonably be called "mind control." We don't know what that trooper's inner experience was... it might have been kinda f--ked up.
"So the story can happen" 75% of the show can be chalked up to this scentence
@ytfun6380
24 күн бұрын
Love me a good Pitch Meeting reference
@Nathan-P-Moomaw
23 күн бұрын
I love pitch meeting too, but I've had the exact opposite experience with this show. Everything that happens I find makes perfect sense based on character motives and the context of what has happened before. Which parts don't seem to make sense exactly?
@Cp3786
23 күн бұрын
Only the Disney shills/bots will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣
A video with a cameraman/set producer/ director to talk about differences in visuals between big shows would be very interesting!
Yo Ryan, tell Klaus I’m super excited for umbrella Academy season four!!
When is this show going to be about the Sith? Thats how it was sold to me. He's had 1 episode and it was awesome.
@seanwine1085
24 күн бұрын
Sith, or Knight of Ren?
@jimp3547
23 күн бұрын
@@seanwine1085 I would be good with either, but he said "Sith".
The Tremors bit was the most entertaining part of this review.
@seanwine1085
24 күн бұрын
Then stick to watching Gilmore Girls reruns.
@SudoSamurai
24 күн бұрын
@@seanwine1085 i will. Better story and acting then what is portrait in the Acolyte.
I *love* the idea of Qimir as a dark-side projection of Sol.
Kaimet is using OSHA to get to May and use the power of the diad.. and then they find out that he use the witches to create the diet to get the power of the diet which in Susan a battle where neither side wins Yoda shows up and covers it all up
Sol reminds me of a stalker
@darmal8770
24 күн бұрын
I want this little girl I've been spying on the be my padawan even though I met her for like a minute... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@kreiyu
24 күн бұрын
@@darmal8770 lol right? he was a little creepy.
@graymoon3000
24 күн бұрын
Totally stalker vibes lol
@shawtymooresshortpulls8615
24 күн бұрын
His first sight of the girls was them using the force on the alien butterfly. They were searching for a vergeance in the force. It was his literal job to Stalk and investigate. I think we’ll give Sol a pass for that but not for his un Jedi like desires to save her out of fear.
@fmaries7000
24 күн бұрын
Sol saw witches standing around a scary hole and Mae told them that momma said "all must be sacrificed" as part of their duty. Sol was trying to save the twins. He wasn't stalking them.
Sun / Moon is just because Sol and Qimir are parallels of one another in the story in that they both want a pupil / padawan. That's all. They aren't connected further.
@MarcAyouni
24 күн бұрын
They are also both masters of Osha/Mae... one light, one dark.
@jbuster9
24 күн бұрын
Thank you. Them being force projections or some such thing is dumb.
@custodiancolorzoo870
24 күн бұрын
@@jbuster9 Word. What was that guy smoking? Sounds like he is trying to get a job on the Acolyte writing team 😂🙃
The theory at the end of this is so plausible and would be soooooooo cool. I think it would be a phenomenal reveal.
I’m hopeful that they’ll reveal the ‘other Sith’ is a twin of Sol (ideally with a different voice and affect) and that’s why he’s drawn to the twins, cuz he’s a twin himself -
@kreiyu
24 күн бұрын
i'm wondering how they will wrap this up in a satisfying way in one more episode.
I get that Disney needs to sell subscriptions, but I wish these Star Wars shows were "Made for TV Movies" instead. I would hope a good movie is more appealing than an alright series with lots of filler.
@lomiification
24 күн бұрын
I'd rather have a longer, more episodic series I'm sure the Netflix 10 episode season is great for shooting and production pipelines, but they feel both rushed on main plot, and full of filler
Is nobody going to mention the fact that Torbin killed himself for no reason?
@Beyondesp
24 күн бұрын
You mean the guilt of going into the coven unprovoked for his own selfish wish of just leaving this planet, which then leads to everyone dying wasn't the reason ?
@thejuansnow
24 күн бұрын
Him acting rashly to get what he wanted directly caused the deaths of over 50 people...that's a pretty big reason
@q.heffner3612
24 күн бұрын
It wasn't for no reason, he finally read the script and gladly drank the Kool aid. Too bad he didn't leave enough for me
@BEETTHESE
24 күн бұрын
@@thejuansnow not enough for a Jedi Master to kill himself. At least to me. He certainly should have guilt but idk if that was enough to warrant his actions.
@kreiyu
24 күн бұрын
@@BEETTHESE but indara decided not to tell the council the whole truth. so he never recieved the punishment he probably thought he deserved. i think it plays into the entire "repressed" thing the jedi have going on overall.
“Star Wars scholars”? Good one.
I'm wondering if Venestra had to make a choice at one point between Sol and Qimir. Venestra used her saber whip on Qimir and he was "thrown away".
Made Sol look like a creepy child predator,ready to lie and twist the truth to get his way with the children
@kovie9162
24 күн бұрын
Not really. He feared, understandably, that they were going to sacrifice one or both twins, in some freaky cult ritual, to satisfy some weird dark side gods or something, so he decided to rescue them. Also, I suspect that something happened in his past that made him especially sensitive to child abuse, maybe in his family. I don't at all see what you're seeing here. He's not Michael Jackson.
@marteld2108
24 күн бұрын
Good point. And how stupid was that line from the witch to Sol? “Fight me!!!” Awful scripts.
@joshualastine7666
24 күн бұрын
There was some weird lines for Sol that made him seem like a pedo
@sinistra7450
23 күн бұрын
Sol was my favourite character. 😢 I loved the Acolyte until now but this character assassination of him discouraged me to watch further. So much for such a potentially great Jedi and LJJ's talent 😔
@hualchr6697
23 күн бұрын
@@marteld2108 what is aweful with that? He killed her lover in front of her eyes and did not even have the respect to fight her when she tries to take revenge. She should be even more upset
I think people just want to hate Star Wars The show isn't great, but it isn't the worst show on TV, and not the worst Star Wars show to come out. I really don't get why everyone just wants everyone to hate it as much as they do, (when half the time all they're doing is regurgitating what some other article/youtuber says) Maybe it's a misery loves company, being reflected in how dividing the USA is rn and everyone has sportified things and anything that doesn't support their team has to lose, die, and go away.
@daveg2938
23 күн бұрын
This isn't just a horribly written star wars story it's a horribly written SHOW period. This is a product that should get people fired.
@zenenzarcon
23 күн бұрын
@@daveg2938 That's like, your opinion dawg
@Nathan-P-Moomaw
21 күн бұрын
@@zenenzarcon There does seem to be something weird happening. And yes, it does seem to have a similar pattern to it as the overall polarized online culture. I believe that plenty of folks honestly dislike the show, but the heightened emotions and accusations seem out of step with reality. Maybe it's the algorithm playing up controversial videos/comments? Or I've also wondered if there are bad actors playing up the controversy for other reasons? Folks accusing Screencrush of being paid by Disney because they like talking about Star Wars lore feels way over the top for sure.
I was thinking that Qimir would somehow turn Sol to the dark side, maybe to save the twins, but that would be him killing a Jedi without a weapon.
I love the idea that Sol sought the same power to split one consciousness into two, the same as the power used to create the twins.
This is how you know they are being sponsored by Disney “the writing was the best part”.
@seanwine1085
24 күн бұрын
You don't watch on a regular basis. Ryan picks apart this show and many other D+ programs. A big , so what, if they were sponsored by Disney.
@danielguerrero5692
24 күн бұрын
@@seanwine1085 I’m actually a big fan of the channel that’s how I know that they are bending over backwards to make this look good. The problem with them being bought by Disney is that they have accused other channels of hating on the show just for the revenue and they have accused all that don’t like it of being racist, homophobic and sexiest.
@almostadonovan
23 күн бұрын
Disney has better things to spend their money on than this KZread channel.
@danielguerrero5692
23 күн бұрын
@@almostadonovan you are right, because what company would give money to celebrities/ KZread channels to promote their product or sway popular opinion. I’m so dumb sorry.
@almostadonovan
23 күн бұрын
@@danielguerrero5692 Take a breath. No one was calling you dumb. All I'm saying is Disney spends billions on advertising and promotions. They're not gonna care about one KZread channel with a couple million subs. All those subs are seeing the ads anyway.
Disney's whole budget was for the 15 minutes exit credits.
too many flashbacks in a short show
1:38 - We say it has bad writing because when you hand veteran actors like Carrie-Ann Moss a line like "You must agree that Jedi have the right to test for new padawans.... with your permission" Is it a right? Or does she have to give permission? That's a bad line... and it's repeated in this episode and it hit like nails on a chalkboard. That said. This was one of the best episodes of this series... so there IS good writing, it's just ... why make lame dialog?
Everyone was like Mae was brainwashed but nope they skip over the part were she literally says “I’m gonna kill you” then act like it was a mistake ??😭
@ForestRaptor
24 күн бұрын
Lil brats say the harshest thing when they are going through some intense emotions.
@faitheffect254
24 күн бұрын
How did that burning book cause the explosion of the entire castle infrastructure?
Can’t apologize for this show anymore. Gave it a fair shot and was open to it. I have never spent so much time trying to rationalize the story, decisions, characters and find the answer being: it just doesn’t matter. The characters have no depth and nothing pays off at all. The pacing took forever only to reveal what already happened with just a little more detail. There’s no way this season was written to be concluded in the last episode. Andor is the pinnacle of a Star Wars series. At every moment, you felt attached the characters. You know what they want, what they are motivated by. They make rational choices. The story pays off entirely, I’m not filling in the blanks. This show is exhausting to discuss.
I want to know the backstory of Kimur and Mae. Did he raise her? He must have for her to get strong enough to defeat a master Jedi. Or if not then how did she survive?? whats she been doing all these years. We know everything about Osha.
I think the big reveal is vanestra has a whip type lightsaber and kiamira has a scare on his back from his master who kick him out of the jedi
"We need to understand a, b, and c." Bro we're not getting any of that shit answered.
If only Jack had assumed the Smoke monster had good intentions and just wanted to bring them spaghetti O’s and open the hatch for them, they would have gotten off the island within the week.
They didn't have the mind possession scene look terrifying because they are playing the ambiguous angle. Who are the evil here? If it's obvious who the evil is, then the Jedi are automatically the good guys. This show is delving deeper into the fact that they are not always the good guys. In fact, seldom are they... Also the show looks great, stop reaching
So I’m calling it now, Darth Teeth is Palpatine. He sees how to create life from just the force, he has a spindley Plagas in the basement, and he has an affection for masks. Though he can’t wear one himself he gave Vader one. Oh plus his 2 lightsaber fighting technique. Too bad we had to have another gimmick lightsaber, this one however actually seemed very useful