Ace Combat 5 (Emulated) - M19: Final Option

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Weekend's over, folks. And I've been nice. But here I won't be. This is the worst mission in the history of AC. Period. Stuff like Time Limit in ACX or Grand Flight and Blockade in JA are frequently nominated, and for very good reasons. But they all have something Final Option doesn't: agency. Control. The ability to fly as you please, no matter the BS those missions throw at you. That's the single most critical element to any interactive experience, but one we don't often see because it's taken for granted. And it should. Here, though, you're not just hampered by scripting: you're nothing more than a slave to it. And I simply do not stand for that.
Ironic that it gets what i think is my best thumbnail, though.

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  • @bumblebee__
    @bumblebee__4 жыл бұрын

    >Thunderhead is red I TRUSTED YOU

  • @SolarChris3010

    @SolarChris3010

    4 жыл бұрын

    "You were my brother Thunderhead! I loved you!" - Blaze Kenobi

  • @bluecaptainIT

    @bluecaptainIT

    4 жыл бұрын

    Friendship with Thunderhead ended. Now Oka Nieba is my best friend!

  • @nfdids

    @nfdids

    3 жыл бұрын

    After all that we´ve been through... what a stupid idiot!!!

  • @cipher0328

    @cipher0328

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bluecaptainIT La la la la!

  • @CCROGGY

    @CCROGGY

    5 ай бұрын

    @@cipher0328”Listen to my beautiful voice!”

  • @WinVisten
    @WinVisten3 жыл бұрын

    Don't worry, everyone, Thunderhead found out the truth when the war ended. He realized that Razgriz weren't spies after all. c:

  • @leyvonnewashlv4096

    @leyvonnewashlv4096

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was sad when I saw his name in Red text, like the enemies during the dialogue haha

  • @lloyd9710

    @lloyd9710

    Жыл бұрын

    it was annoying that thunderhead didn’t even try to defend you

  • @JeffreyBarkdull

    @JeffreyBarkdull

    Жыл бұрын

    Or that he wasn’t the AWACS that Assisted you in Aces and/or The Unsung War

  • @ChryseCoder

    @ChryseCoder

    11 ай бұрын

    There's a moment from an AC5 fanfic that depicted Thunderhead being demoted into an Aerial Refuelling tanker aircraft operator for being too doubtful on Wardog being traitors.

  • @JeffreyBarkdull

    @JeffreyBarkdull

    11 ай бұрын

    Does Thunderhead regret believing that the Wardog Squadron were traitors @@ChryseCoder?

  • @MaximilianoAedo
    @MaximilianoAedo5 жыл бұрын

    0:46 This should've been the Grabacr Squadron's official introduction scene right here, with the squadron number and insignia.

  • @Danphiroud
    @Danphiroud4 жыл бұрын

    Everyone complains about this mission while I'm enjoying a peaceful flight around some cool islands

  • @TugaAvenger

    @TugaAvenger

    4 жыл бұрын

    It would be enjoyable if we could do it at our pace, not Pops'. It worked fine for every other canyon/low level flight...

  • @margotrosendorn6371

    @margotrosendorn6371

    4 жыл бұрын

    I always kinda liked this one. Being in an unarmed training jet really had my hackles up after being able to shoot back and eliminate whoever was on my tail. Yeah, the whole naked and afraid vibe fades after a while, but the first time you do this is an clever shakedown.

  • @OFS_Razgriz

    @OFS_Razgriz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@margotrosendorn6371 I thing the general agreement is that it's great on the first playthrough, not so much on subsequent ones.

  • @kingdomofvinland8827

    @kingdomofvinland8827

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TugaAvenger I’d love to fly around those island in an F-35 in free flight

  • @somehecucunt3194
    @somehecucunt31943 жыл бұрын

    Dog: bark bark bark > yes Dog: bark

  • @8834pogi

    @8834pogi

    2 жыл бұрын

    > *no*

  • @HD_555

    @HD_555

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@8834pogi Kirk: *whines*

  • @exequielpomilio8558

    @exequielpomilio8558

    Ай бұрын

    And that how start depresion​@@HD_555

  • @HD_555

    @HD_555

    Ай бұрын

    @@exequielpomilio8558 you mean ''Kirk-pression'' 😉😉

  • @leyvonnewashlv4096
    @leyvonnewashlv40962 жыл бұрын

    8492nd have some cool sounding voice actors haha they sound so relaxed

  • @SMD234WG

    @SMD234WG

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wish they sounded like that in the final mission.

  • @user-ki8se7zp5c
    @user-ki8se7zp5c2 жыл бұрын

    Kirk is absolute memelorde before Lanza and Matias Torres.

  • @animeneweablet

    @animeneweablet

    3 ай бұрын

    Even before Jpeg doggo.

  • @Jovian999

    @Jovian999

    3 ай бұрын

    @@animeneweablet "Woof woof, woof" is dog for "shit, my cola"

  • @donut3702
    @donut37023 жыл бұрын

    I actually enjoyed this mission. The storytelling in this act of the story is pretty good, considering you get the big reveal that Belka is the big bad, and then you escape only to be pursued, which lands you in this mission. I also like the fact that you have this specific plane, and rather than choosing a maneuverable, agile fighter, you get a dinky trainer and your flight skills. I would complain about the 8492nd, but they weren't able to fire any missiles at us and knew our capabilities, deterring any gunfire

  • @brunof3611
    @brunof36116 ай бұрын

    00:59 Thunderhead: Are those guys really traitors? Ashley: YEEEEEAAAAAAAAaaaahhhH

  • @blankon8946
    @blankon89464 жыл бұрын

    11:32 my fav line in this series. It was 'Where the Legend started'

  • @iceyplayz_2826
    @iceyplayz_28262 жыл бұрын

    "He wants us to bail out?" What do you mean by that Grimm?! Snow already trusts you and wardog he can't risk shooting the plane down with you in it!

  • @matchc0635
    @matchc0635 Жыл бұрын

    the belkan must got their retina burnt to a crisp by staring at their own nuke because they can't spot four red training jet like right below their nose

  • @09Scherzo
    @09Scherzo7 жыл бұрын

    I think the issue generally with tunnel missions in ACs is that it's not a skill that's really taught in the course of main gameplay. You can get through the rest of the game without ever touching the yaw, but that skill is absolutely critical in tunnel/canyon missions.

  • @TugaAvenger

    @TugaAvenger

    7 жыл бұрын

    I can't see this as a canyon/tunnel mission like we see elsewhere. The slow pace imposed upon you is such that save for (parts of) the big tunnel, the ground obstacles may as well not be there, they're simply no factor. The fun in those missions comes you the choose-your-own-difficulty button that is your throttle, but here even that is removed from you.

  • @09Scherzo

    @09Scherzo

    7 жыл бұрын

    I was kinda just using this mission to articulate a general point about tunnels.

  • @Monkechnology
    @Monkechnology2 жыл бұрын

    7:02 Based. My boy was spitting facts.

  • @HD_555

    @HD_555

    4 ай бұрын

    Kirk: *WOOF*

  • @MrLemmy82
    @MrLemmy827 жыл бұрын

    *Snores loudly* Oh! Right, that mission... Pretty much an interactive cutscene... that lies more on the side of "cutscene" than "interactive", it has no reason to exist other than to make the Hawk a playable aircraft for the first and last time in the series... and it's pretty much a joke plane anyway. Only good part is that the best line of the game is here, with Kirk barking over the radio, truly powerful stuff right there.

  • @mrandrossguy9871

    @mrandrossguy9871

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lemmy You All Have your Opinions but I Wish this Plane and Planes like This we’re Available Along with Mission Types Because of story ! But will never Get that Because of People like You

  • @PedroKing19

    @PedroKing19

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mrandrossguy9871 what the hell are you talking about? You want to do nothing for a whole mission?

  • @accent1666

    @accent1666

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PedroKing19 dude, you arent doing "nothing" youre flying low and into those ravines and caverns to avoid the enemy, it isnt a mission which you sit still and nothing happens you also got the music, dialogue and a bit of agility to entertain yourself , not always it has to be about shooting down planes all the time and it makes sense with the context of the game, instead of just being glossed over or just a cutscene and its just one mission that is like that (and its not a long one)

  • @tacituskilgore2016

    @tacituskilgore2016

    7 ай бұрын

    I liked it

  • @pacocinco
    @pacocinco6 жыл бұрын

    6:24 booty got me like but in a ll seriousness, it's very interesting to see this game played through. My young, emotional self only got the fortress, I was too beat up over chopper to keep going.

  • @NoelHuerta

    @NoelHuerta

    3 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂😂😂

  • @avoasemota8450

    @avoasemota8450

    Жыл бұрын

    💀☠️🗿🗿🫣😳😳

  • @HD_555
    @HD_5555 ай бұрын

    7:03 me : *wheezing* 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀👌👌👌

  • @321haiqal
    @321haiqal7 жыл бұрын

    This map was so fucking infuriating, I crashed into Pop's fucking airplane when I escaped the final tunnel and had to do the mission for the SEVENTH GODDAMN TIME

  • @skefil6525

    @skefil6525

    7 жыл бұрын

    I remembered​ when I had to do this again after I mistakenly saved over it without knowing I had not loaded the save after the mission. What made this even worse is that the game didn't work on the slim. Even cleaning the lens didn't work.

  • @321haiqal

    @321haiqal

    7 жыл бұрын

    Skefil Really? it seemed to work fine on my slim until it stopped working all of a sudden. I managed to fix it by using a pirated disk to load the game and the actual game disk itself to play the game by switching them midway.

  • @skefil6525

    @skefil6525

    7 жыл бұрын

    It would work fine until the audio and dialogue stopped and the game wouldn't load. 4 and Zero work perfectly on my slim.

  • @andrewzheng4038

    @andrewzheng4038

    7 жыл бұрын

    Really? For me it was when I was literally about 20 feet away from Pops and he claimed that he couldn't see me. Evidently, he's farsighted...

  • @321haiqal

    @321haiqal

    7 жыл бұрын

    Skefil when the audio and dialouge stop, thats when you insert in the actual disk itself.

  • @alex-marquette
    @alex-marquette4 жыл бұрын

    I hated this mission, due to the lack of lighting in the tunnels so I frequently had to adjust brightness just for this mission so you could see obstructions in the final tunnel section of the mission.

  • @TugaAvenger

    @TugaAvenger

    4 жыл бұрын

    If only that was the worst thing about it...

  • @andrewrogers6197
    @andrewrogers61977 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, this mission is worse then many missions in Assault Horizon. No seriously, I'd like to see people debate that.

  • @Sub___Zero

    @Sub___Zero

    7 жыл бұрын

    Aye...Its a boring mission... However...it fits well with the scenario...

  • @andrewrogers6197

    @andrewrogers6197

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sub Zero Can be said for literally every mission.

  • @Sub___Zero

    @Sub___Zero

    7 жыл бұрын

    Umm....... No man.......AC5 and AC0 had the best missions ever.

  • @andrewrogers6197

    @andrewrogers6197

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sub Zero AC5? No it has by far some of the worst missions in the series, 4 and 2 both beat it.

  • @phil-d-destroyer6224

    @phil-d-destroyer6224

    3 жыл бұрын

    The only difference here is that you don't have anything to shoot down pops.

  • @margotrosendorn6371
    @margotrosendorn63714 жыл бұрын

    7:02 DOGGIE!!

  • @Superdeath25
    @Superdeath253 жыл бұрын

    Hated how this mission and the ones after made my accomplishments from the first 18 missions feel meaningless

  • @Jusuff
    @Jusuff Жыл бұрын

    0:47 Ashley, your mic is a god damn war crime

  • @Post_Stall_Maneuver

    @Post_Stall_Maneuver

    Жыл бұрын

    lad's got a 3ds microphone for a radio

  • @yocapo32
    @yocapo32 Жыл бұрын

    Back when my PS2 was dying, when Pops said "Relax, you can do this" and immediately flew through a mountain.

  • @whynot-tomorrow_1945
    @whynot-tomorrow_19454 жыл бұрын

    Why wasn't that "Scrap Queen" lady from Ace Combat 7 working at THIS airfield instead of the desert?

  • @guts-141

    @guts-141

    3 жыл бұрын

    She's still a little kid with her grandpa fixing up the F104

  • @user-ki8se7zp5c

    @user-ki8se7zp5c

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@guts-141 it's just a rofl!

  • @FM-hw8yv
    @FM-hw8yv2 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes, now imagining having snow fly into you in the last few seconds That happened to me, it sucks to play 10 minutes of nothing again

  • @athanscreed2545
    @athanscreed25456 жыл бұрын

    I honestly don't understand why nobody liked this mission, was it cause it was mostly just a normal flying simulation without any of the combat?

  • @TugaAvenger

    @TugaAvenger

    6 жыл бұрын

    AC games always feature some sort of canyon and tunnel run with minimal or no combat, yet most enjoy those missions and they're iconic of the franchise. That's not the problem. The problem is how little control you have in this mission - no player agency. We're on the run, being hunted down by 8492 - we should be able to, we should be *`compelled* to hit the gas and maneuver our way through the obstacles as fast as possible. Instead, all control is taken from us, forcing us to stick behind Pops at a very slow speed for most players, through an overtly long route, and with your wingmen going nuts over basic maneuvers. It all results in a horrible gameplay experience, and the narrative ends up suffering as well: I can't really *feel* it's an emergency when we're somewhat strolling around. As Lemmy says in another, it's more of a (not-so) interactive cutscene than a playable mission. And that simply defeats the point of it being playable at all.

  • @athanscreed2545

    @athanscreed2545

    6 жыл бұрын

    TugaAvenger ah, makes sense, and I understand very clearly that all control is taken away because even if you stray away for a second you automatically fail the mission, thus turing everything into a bad experience. I honestly have no problem with it, but I understand where you're coming from with this

  • @alex-marquette

    @alex-marquette

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@athanscreed2545 This mission is also a mission that will make you pay if you don't spend time calibrating the display properly (or at least that was my case with my PS2) any other mission including ACES the tunnel run was decently light up enough to navigate properly. This mission required the brightness be raised just to see some of the obstructions that were cleverly hidden that might not be noticeable.

  • @fulcrum2951
    @fulcrum29515 жыл бұрын

    Wonder if Pops went there during his free time

  • @AaronShenghao

    @AaronShenghao

    2 жыл бұрын

    Definitely, no one just fly into a tunnel not knowing of there is an exit or large enough. Heck he might flew though it once or twice.

  • @AaronShenghao
    @AaronShenghao2 жыл бұрын

    Some people hated this mission, but I guess it mostly have to do is there isn't much flying for 70% of the level (except the Ace Combat traditional flying-in-a-tunnel level) But really it's necessary for the story.

  • @leibniz4455
    @leibniz44553 жыл бұрын

    Yep.... The 8492nd can't use guns

  • @hartantoanggoro
    @hartantoanggoro3 ай бұрын

    Usually when your ship goes down it means mission failed and you need to restart, but since you bailed out, mission accomplished.

  • @Mx64MaxyImpress

    @Mx64MaxyImpress

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah, we trust Snow and soon he'll join Kestrel

  • @skykid1075
    @skykid107511 күн бұрын

    final option ... we ran together 😟😟✊💗

  • @ZeroCountdown1
    @ZeroCountdown17 жыл бұрын

    keep the videos going! :D

  • @blazeraz7666
    @blazeraz76666 жыл бұрын

    I actually liked this mission 😊

  • @julietmike1018
    @julietmike10182 ай бұрын

    Grimm getting that guac guac 9000 in the tunnel...

  • @yaditanakmamaabah1656
    @yaditanakmamaabah16564 ай бұрын

    Snow : Trust me , just bail out

  • @leshajackass9583
    @leshajackass9583 Жыл бұрын

    1:43 lol, ashley talks to himself, he has a shiz))

  • @pgmm577mod
    @pgmm577mod5 жыл бұрын

    In 11:17, I notice the FLIR of SH-9 are working )))

  • @AaronShenghao
    @AaronShenghao2 жыл бұрын

    RIP Sea Goblins in 2019

  • @PositronCannon
    @PositronCannon7 жыл бұрын

    AC5 GOTY

  • @insanity9329
    @insanity93292 жыл бұрын

    What a stressful mission.

  • @DMSwordsmaster
    @DMSwordsmaster7 жыл бұрын

    (oh my god I can't believe I forgot about this level when thinking of the worst missions in AC history) I... Honestly say I hate Blockade as a "boring fluff where nothing happens" more than this, but... That's mostly because this just wastes seven minutes of your live. Blockade wastes a half hour. And that's not me defending this shit either. I really hate this mission, too. Make it flow a lot faster. Maybe raise the stakes more. Like having Grabacr actually try and gun for you instead of just sitting at a high altitude and flying after you. Take out the shit near the middle before the first cave where you just fly around in circles for a bit. Just... Speed it up in general. That would save this level.

  • @TugaAvenger

    @TugaAvenger

    7 жыл бұрын

    An "fly for your life" scenario would have real potential, though I see it as a bit hard to balance, as you'd have to set specific speed/time checkpoints where you'd fail it, but those would be almost impossible to scale between players of different skill. "Get to the second island in 90 seconds", players like us could do it half that but get no reward for it, rookies who couldn't would be left hung out to dry. But hey, I'm not a dev, I'm sure they could have worked it out - if Kono hadn't decided to retire a mission for this.

  • @DMSwordsmaster

    @DMSwordsmaster

    7 жыл бұрын

    Does AC5 even _have_ checkpoints? I don't believe it did. But yeah, that is true regardless.

  • @Aldnon

    @Aldnon

    6 жыл бұрын

    @TugaAvenger, Urgh, but we used to have time-sensitive mission on AC2 while being chased and have to shoot down countless enemy in a confined space. Why AC5 can't do this?

  • @ArcturusOTE
    @ArcturusOTE6 жыл бұрын

    Something tells me the emulation isn't perfect yet, the subtitles in the beginning is a bit messy at the bottom

  • @jldldr3933
    @jldldr39335 жыл бұрын

    MY GOD the script and voices are awkward. So terrible. If only they had made the ravines and tunnels really narrow...

  • @mrandrossguy9871
    @mrandrossguy98715 жыл бұрын

    Personally I think this is one of the Best Concept Missions “ In Ace combat05” Because of the way it was presented and Designed!, It flows with the story and is very cinematic and kind of peaceful Also Pix sounds like it was Pixy from Zero

  • @dionesvaldez088
    @dionesvaldez0882 жыл бұрын

    BIRTH OF THE DEMONS OF RAZGRIZ

  • @HD_555
    @HD_5555 ай бұрын

    2:01 ''Is that you, Ashley?'' Isn't Ashley a girl's name 😅😅😅

  • @flarerik
    @flarerik7 жыл бұрын

    WAITAN GAEMS

  • @acynicalasian
    @acynicalasian5 жыл бұрын

    I actually enjoy this mission more than, say, Flicker of Hope in Ace Combat Zero. The dialogue and amazing OST here are amazing compared to the sparse, spread out enemies in the aforementioned ACZ mission. Flicker of Hope feels super unsatisfying when you can't bomb everything to hell super fast because enemies are too spread out.

  • @SleepyPopups.Unedited
    @SleepyPopups.Unedited2 жыл бұрын

    I wonder why AWACS can't see them flying out, Sea Goblin and Snow did really just masterbait the Sand Island people Edit: "Likewise, all of the pilots are confirmed dead." They're not dead except Motormouth, rest in peace Davenport

  • @whynot-tomorrow_1945
    @whynot-tomorrow_1945 Жыл бұрын

    Who is Pix? Why do they speak in this mission and nowhere else? xD

  • @DoomFoxofDeath
    @DoomFoxofDeath4 жыл бұрын

    Surprised to see people hated this mission so much. I love turning the HUD off and trying to follow Pops without radar. Makes it way more engaging. Plus the music slaps! Besides there is a much worse mission in the ps2 trilogy. Mission 13 in AC Zero. Long, boring, return line way too far from all target areas which are also too far apart, PJ, repetitive annoying soundtrack, magically spawning SAM clusters, etc. Close contender from this game is both versions of mission 16. I run out of targets and ammo 8 minutes before the mission update in a mission clearly designed to have a resupply, but they omitted that feature from the entire game for some reason.

  • @TugaAvenger

    @TugaAvenger

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good idea. I'll take whever makes it more interesting.

  • @jevonjoyeau7110
    @jevonjoyeau71102 жыл бұрын

    All of the hate on this mission ..... People need to realize that this game has excellent story telling and character as well as game world development this mission was meant to fill some of the holes in the story as well as introduce new characters and another arc in the in game story line .... Think about you for a second what did you think was gonna happen you're were gonna fly off without any worries no one shooting at you and somehow just get away and love to fight another day ?

  • @RoguexGuardian
    @RoguexGuardian7 жыл бұрын

    It's missions like these that make this game the worst of the trilogy (doesn't mean it's bad though). Everything about this mission sucks and, in an ironic sense, makes no sense... AT ALL.

  • @mrandrossguy9871
    @mrandrossguy98715 жыл бұрын

    If you don’t like this mission that much then Why did you make a Video on it ?

  • @skefil6525
    @skefil65257 жыл бұрын

    Worst mission ever.

  • @HakurieReimu34

    @HakurieReimu34

    2 жыл бұрын

    No

  • @NoelHuerta

    @NoelHuerta

    2 жыл бұрын

    Is that you Ashley ?

  • @andrewrogers6197
    @andrewrogers61977 жыл бұрын

    Dude why didn't you just skip this? Nobody enjoys this mission....

  • @TugaAvenger

    @TugaAvenger

    7 жыл бұрын

    It's a full emulated playthrough, gotta take the bad with the good.

  • @ArcturusOTE
    @ArcturusOTE6 жыл бұрын

    Something tells me the emulation isn't perfect yet, the subtitles in the beginning is a bit messy at the bottom

  • @TugaAvenger

    @TugaAvenger

    6 жыл бұрын

    Those are the consequence of an engine hack that fixes some other stuff (ghosting in cutscenes and foggy maps), but does distort text. So you're correct, not perfect yet. But the biggest issues have been fixed.

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